apex

[ocean flame]

Not trolling

There was a voltaic comp smoothness scenario last year or something that i got 8th on with my roller

[mental ridge]

coz sticks are relative inputs and not absolute inputs?

[steep root]

Are u the dude that did the video on it

[ocean flame]

Uhhh because its just smooth lmao. The scenario was like smoothbot but with no acceleration

After reacting and getting on the bot it was impossible to miss if u just dont move thumb

haha

Controller was also fun on plaza

[mental ridge]

no acceleration lmao ok then yeah figure out stick tilt angle and chill

[ocean flame]

Nope. Dunno what ur talking abt

[steep root]

I misrememebr then sorry

I think once gyro aiming gets more wide spread aa will go away

And then the true input wars begin

[ocean flame]

Im still surprised theres no masters+ cntroller kovaaksers

Is there a vid of that somewhere bcs it would be cool to see

[steep root]

You'd be doing a disservice to urself practicing without aa

[ocean flame]

Yep

[bright elm]

she did

she tweeted out her scores a while ago

it was honestly kinda insane

[ocean flame]

What score did she get

[bright elm]

for gyro tech

i forgot

but it was probably masters+

or smth

[ocean flame]

Oh using gyro?

[mental ridge]

gyro aim aint Required lol

[ocean flame]

Daaamn wtf

[bright elm]

yeah

she was grinding

her scores on gyro

[ocean flame]

I played controller kovaaks for a lil

Didnt have gyro tho

Was really fun

[steep root]

@wolf I was hoping it would be better and aa won't be needed

But I'm thinking people wanna belive they are good and continue to use ai to aim for them

[young pine]

gyro has potential to be better than mnk

[steep root]

So maybe aa is forever an issue

[young pine]

nothings beating rotational tho

[steep root]

Yup

[quaint karma]

tbh blaming everything on aim assist is kind of cope

a lot of the fights you didnt lose cuz the other guy was on AA

and i only realized this after swapping to controller

[steep root]

You just self inserted that into the conversation

[young pine]

damn nosh you're so based

[ocean flame]

Nah

[quaint karma]

what does that mean

[steep root]

I'll let you figure that out

[quaint karma]

stfu

[ocean flame]

Aa doesn't bother me rn but it's big

[mental ridge]

no they just gotta implement a different way to convert stick input to ingame movement

[steep root]

Puff players

[bright elm]

wys gang

[quaint karma]

idk i see a guy being condescending to me for no reason

cant stand it

[steep root]

We were talking about aa and the fact that people can get high scores on Kovacs without it

And then you brought up aa isn't the reason you lose fights in apex

[quaint karma]

dont care what you were talking about

i was reading an earlier point in the conversation

[steep root]

See like I'm helping you and ur still maf

[ocean flame]

This is so wrong too btw lmao

Massive underestimation of aa

[steep root]

Regardless we weren't talking about that specifically

[young pine]

https://tenor.com/view/cat-cat-face-giga-chad-chad-gif-940721850618971211

[quaint karma]

https://tenor.com/view/apex-legends-apex-wattson-nessie-cute-gif-25816595

yup

[young pine]

don't you dare say anything about my precious TSM

[half salmon]

holy fuck tsm downfall

[quaint karma]

its ok theyre still gonna win

in the end

[twilit flicker]

tsm sucks

[young pine]

they always start slow and they always bring it back

https://tenor.com/view/ice-age-sid-they-do-this-every-year-every-year-gif-23891047

[mental ridge]

i mean the biggest problem about controller in fps is that it only uses stick input in a relative fashion
if theyd just implement a way where there is no deadzone but a absolut zone where stick tolt angle is bound to the camera

[young pine]

https://tenor.com/view/wesker-albert-albert-wesker-resident-evil-resident-evil-4-gif-5143688443782660001

[quaint karma]

i dont think that would work

way too sensitive

[light rapids]

delete controller from pc

[steep root]

Or just take it out of comp lol

[ocean flame]

Just let them suffer

[light rapids]

if you wanna play controller buy a console

[ocean flame]

Why are we so against suffering?

[light rapids]

its cheaper

even

[ocean flame]

They dont need to be able to compete

[quaint karma]

they could easily just tune down AA close range and scale it with range

but they wont

[young pine]

all this mnk crying just switch inputs or switch games. Apex is a controller game skill issue get gud

[ocean flame]

Frrr

Controller is a lot more fun

U can kovaaks with it and its great

U can 1mag ppl with it in apex

[quaint karma]

static isnt

great on controller

[ocean flame]

Static is horrible on everything

Useless garbage terrible

[quaint karma]

true actually

[steep root]

Pen and tablet

Ipad

[young pine]

idk why static so hard the dots don't even move

enough trolling I'm taking a nap

[mental ridge]

no it would aslong as thsy give the players a way to adjust the size of the absolute zone and how many stick degrees correlate to a Ingame degree
and obviously one would implement a zone between absolute and relative where one fades into the other

[sharp ice]

what

[mental ridge]

that way a controller player can do fine left right tracking and corrections without the need to cross the stick center for each direction change and to stay on a target all he gotta do is not move the stick

[sharp ice]

apex is honestly so unfun without movement

[steep root]

Too bad movement shooters are a dying trend getting replaced by hero abilities

[wet stratus]

wow NA dominance is kinda over

[ocean flame]

Think about your best possible and most satisfying aim. Now uve got that and better 24/7 on the sticks

Its great

[wet stratus]

maybe all these other regions scrimming on triple digit ping was like rock lee training with the weights on

xd

[alpine trail]

[quaint karma]

yeah for 6 weeks replacing duos

[mental ridge]

its like watching the stream of a hacker that u can backseat game

[alpine trail]

..so it'll just be mostly duo players teaming for 6 weeks. I see.

[young pine]

Newcastle ult is gonna deflect nades 👀

[quaint karma]

wait what

[alpine trail]

I figured it always should've done that.

[young pine]

via hypermyst

[wary star]

https://tenor.com/view/katturide-gif-27002722

i am just going to be playing for the skin

[wary star]

yikes

[alpine trail]

i recently discovered that capybara aren't the risk takers that I thought that they were. they're simply too stupid to understand why doing things like this is dangerous

[golden sphinx]

idk why they dont just add more permanent modes

id play the game a whole lot more if i had actual fun stuff ready to play

[mental ridge]

and they have enormous teeth that are quiet pointy and sharp

[alpine trail]

no fun allowed

[golden sphinx]

fr how it feels

[young pine]

I don't know why they'll try new things with ltms but never add anything to pubs

[steep root]

Dividing ques is bad always

[young pine]

like respawn tokens would be gire in trios

[golden sphinx]

apparently they are doing quads at some point and i assume that will be the same

[young pine]

fire

[steep root]

Apex already has a player base issue

[golden sphinx]

replace trios for 6 weeks and then its gone

[alpine trail]

quads in this games loot pool. i actually chuckled.

[young pine]

that's awesome now I can have 3 useless randoms

[golden sphinx]

maybe if they actually focused on making the game more fun and not well

making recolors and skins

it wouldnt have a playerbase issue

[steep root]

Lol they are just milking it dry

[arctic violet]

cause gun run server would be empty😂

[steep root]

Ea's breadwinner is fifa anyeay

[alpine trail]

they should just can gun run anyway.

[steep root]

We are something they can let die

[golden sphinx]

they look at it so short term lol

[steep root]

With little to no effort

[golden sphinx]

quick profit over long term steady profits

its sad

[young pine]

they need to do what fortnite does and just add fun shit to trios. no ltm no stats not counting bs

just fun

[steep root]

I wish Microsoft or blizzard would aquire respawn and turn it into something great

[wary star]

blizzard can't even make their own games good

[steep root]

Atleast they try

[wary star]

nah

[steep root]

What do we get man

[twilit flicker]

did u unironically type blizzard

[steep root]

You guys can't be serious with ea being a better option

Who would you rather pick up the company

[young pine]

blizzard has the resources they are just clueless. I think respawn is a tad more capable but they have to tote the EA line

[steep root]

Riot games?

[wary star]

i'd rather no one pick up this trash

riot actually makes good games

atleast

[alpine trail]

Riots anti cheat would save apex no bs.

[golden sphinx]

bruh

wym at least they try

[young pine]

riot would just run Spyware on your system 24/7

[golden sphinx]

overwatch 2 was the biggest step down from overwatch 1

lol

[wary star]

d4 sucks, wow sucks, ow2 sucks, warzone is hella mid

[steep root]

Hey man never said it was a good change

Ow1 was a banger tho

Mw2019 was good

Wow use to be great

[young pine]

I regret never playing ow1. but I was a console cod pleb

[twilit flicker]

ow1 was peak

ow2 is so dogshit

[young pine]

I know I wish they go back to 6v6 so I can experience it

[steep root]

Same I literally only played mercy and widow

5 man rez was sixk

[twilit flicker]

mercy 💀

[alpine trail]

a friend from the fighting game community introduced me to overwatch 1 but this is back when i was playing fighting games and MMORPG.

[steep root]

5 MAN REZ

[alpine trail]

it was really fun.

[steep root]

What fgc game

[young pine]

I played ow1 a handful of times on console and I just mercy pocketed my friends

[alpine trail]

he was mostly a Smash player but he played Street Fighter and Tekken also

[steep root]

Mercy 💀

Wait you play melee?

[alpine trail]

I do not. I played guilty gear and blazblue.

[steep root]

:<

Exert is too hard

[golden sphinx]

overwatch 2 literally just an excuse to make the game "free to play" and add a battlepass and remove loot boxes

[alpine trail]

?

[steep root]

Gg

[golden sphinx]

except they remove access to overwatch 1 so its not free to play to the majority of people who are playing it that owned overwatch 1

[alpine trail]

are you saying that guilty gear xrd the easiest and most accessible guilty gear on the market before Strive was too hard???

[steep root]

Cause I suck

Like that's why it's hard...

[young pine]

overwatch is really satisfying tho. like brain off shooting shit

[steep root]

Cause I'm ass

[alpine trail]

how long did you sit down with the game and practice if you don't mind my asking

[steep root]

Less than a day.....

I may just be coping

[half salmon]

TEAM SUPER MID!!

[alpine trail]

https://tenor.com/view/anime-matsuzaka-satou-松坂さとう-happy-sugar-life-ハッピーシュガーライフ-gif-12174461

[steep root]

It's super fun to watch

Their was an evo japan set I watched

With paper bag man vs gun samari

[alpine trail]

omito vs nage....

[steep root]

Best commentary of all time

[alpine trail]

that was a great set

[steep root]

Did they have it at this japan Evo

It hasn't happened yet but

I'm wondering if they will have it aswrll as strive

[alpine trail]

if they were to do that, Xrd will likely be a side game.

[steep root]

:<

Guess we watching leffen play strive again

[alpine trail]

i haven't really been keeping up with fighters lately but I did take interest in granblue fantasy rising.

leffen...isn't that public enemy number 1 or something i've heard some things abt him.

[steep root]

Basically

And yea balancing getting good at fighting games and fps games is hard af

Taxing on the hands

[alpine trail]

it's a good thing that i own an arcade stick and don't have to worry about binding controller buttons. plus granblue rising is a baby game

so its not much to learn

and its got my fav granblue char

https://tenor.com/view/cagliostro-book-scholar-reading-cute-gif-18877559

but fps more fun.

[steep root]

Have you tried a leverless stick?

[alpine trail]

i have not. its interesting to me, though. might invest in a cheap one and see where it goes.

my qanba obsidian has been pretty cozy.

[steep root]

I have a qanba crystal

:3

[mental ridge]

u mean like those button boxes that have 4 buttons instead of a joystick ?

[steep root]

Yesh

[sharp ice]

pluh

[steep root]

Arguably the fgc communities input problems are worse than the fps communities

[alpine trail]

that is a really hot take.

[steep root]

Listen melee players are salty man I just follow popular opinion

I think if someone beats me with a box idm

But the top 100 have issues with it

[alpine trail]

melee players

[mental ridge]

wym its a different input thats still 100% human

imagine they had aimassist in those games

[steep root]

Its alot of specifics

[mental ridge]

theyd be throwing controllers at each other

[alpine trail]

don't they already do that

[mental ridge]

idk

[steep root]

Also one of melee controllers has a mod to remove misinputs

[alpine trail]

what?!

isn't that cheating?\

[steep root]

It would auto correct the input to be one of the many points on a grid thay you'd want

Like I said

It's

A Grey area

Personally I think it's cheating

[mental ridge]

oh u mean stick inputs to be of a perfect polar coordinate

[steep root]

But smashboxes have perfect wave dash buttons so

[steep root]

Exactly ur still putting the stick in generally the same area

But melee is about precision

[mental ridge]

hehe look at my percentage hehe

[steep root]

And ur making that easier

[alpine trail]

top .69

[mental ridge]

funny how my old master badges ok controller were top 2% badges and now my diamond badge is top 0.XX%

[alpine trail]

that kind of modding would take away from the experience as a viewer when you find out that the player is using a modded roller to help with execution.

[steep root]

Bro wait till you hear about notches

[mental ridge]

i mean aslong as sticks are shitty coal potentiometers there is always a controller advantage

[steep root]

And wave shapping

And intentional snap back

And button remapping

[mental ridge]

i know of notches

[alpine trail]

[steep root]

Melee has the best hall effect sensors for their modded controllers

[steep root]

Alot of people think notches are cheating

[mental ridge]

lol sounds expensive

[steep root]

And all of this added to a barrier of entry to play the game

Yup

Like sure you can just buy an oem

[mental ridge]

yeah they are shit tho

[steep root]

But Johnny 2 foxes is gonna be at an advantage vs u with his op controller

[mental ridge]

i watched videos about the oem roller gamble

its like a godroll in destiny

[steep root]

Yup and some characters like falco will suffer heavily if they have snap back on their sticks

And AND stick boxes wear down over time

So you NEED to replace them

[mental ridge]

centershift we love it

[steep root]

And I'm like bro I just wanna play the game

[mental ridge]

i hate coal potentiometers

my ds4 controllers sufferd so much from Potentiometer wear

[steep root]

Maybe steam was right with a stickless touch pad controller

[alpine trail]

fgc should bring back booli.

"everyone point. point and laugh. this player is using a modded controller"

[mental ridge]

no

[half salmon]

aurora threw so hard

triple red loses against double blue 1 purple

[wet stratus]

real

[leaden cargo]

My triple MnK team noooooo

Who would’ve known this would happen

[uncut bison]

Has there been a single south zone on WE this tournament??

[mental ridge]

everybody there is no aimassist to smootheout mistakes

[wet stratus]

honestly none of this even fucking matters

like tsms just going to reverse sweep the finals anyways

whats the point

stupid tournament

no point watching

[leaden cargo]

ik ik it's just sad my favorite pick osnt doing so hot

[uncut bison]

nah DZ winning they look unstoppable

furia win would be cool tho, vaxlon is nuts

his tracking on mnk has looked SO GOOD so far

[wet stratus]

furia looks like shit

i said that just to not jinx myself on tsms downfall

immadness cannot stop dying

[uncut bison]

wdym look like shit theyre 8th

idk vaxlon is frying

[wet stratus]

did u watch the game

that furia won?

[uncut bison]

im bed on my phone yeah

[wet stratus]

even in that game

immadness

died like

5-6 times

[uncut bison]

every time they cut to vax it looked like he was on controller, i wasnt paying attention to madness

[wet stratus]

if immadness stops just randomly dying

maybe

it feels like keon is just doing everything

[uncut bison]

wattson needs to step it up bro

unacceptable

[wet stratus]

we need a stat check on how many times immadness get knocked

even in that final fight against aurora

immadness almost randomly got knocked

but superior high ground position saved them

[uncut bison]

hope legends do well, i love watching koy

[wet stratus]

yeah idk legends not looking good

despite being a strafing fan

a shame ezflash couldnt attend

[uncut bison]

yeah tbh a lot of teams look bleak

[wet stratus]

nah just not NA

NA looks so bad

[wet stratus]

oce looks so good

[uncut bison]

their only good esport

[wet stratus]

12 spots for NA btw

[uncut bison]

theyll be fine

[wet stratus]

true tsm will just reverse sweep again

dz wont even make it to finals again

surely not right?

come watch with me @uncut bison

[uncut bison]

im a little sick rn just chilling

[young pine]

is it time we have that conversation or not yet

[wet stratus]

?

u dont like strafing?

[young pine]

🤐

[twilit flicker]

LIFELINE DIFF

[quaint karma]

https://tenor.com/view/apex-legends-lifeline-apex-griddy-hit-the-griddy-gif-26465291

[sharp ice]

whats hollows vt rank?

mf can not be diamond

[young pine]

he doesn't aim train very often

he's said it before but I forgot

[frail kiln]

https://fxtwitter.com/Zer0OCE/status/1786490995397271559?t=5jNv-MMJq4QJigfX4V-oKg&s=19

[sharp ice]

his aim is really good tho in game

[young pine]

his aim is so good cheat providers are using his clips 😂

[wet stratus]

36 points lol

24 kills

[uncut bison]

new record

wow

24 is insane

[young pine]

effect hasn't let off the brakes at all this whole event

[frail kiln]

I love aim assist 🫣

[rotund fox]

@wet stratus when is it

i dont usually watch pro apex

find it kind of boring most of the time ngl

😭

[wet stratus]

now lol ive been watching ti for the past 6 hours

[rotund fox]

oh shit

[young pine]

algs boring is a wild take

[wet stratus]

real

[rotund fox]

yea idk LOL

only pro play i like watching is ow

but apex is my main game so

idk shrug

[wet stratus]

bruh oce

is like the best region rn

[frail kiln]

it's like so insane when all you've ever played is ranked

And you see 17 teams alive in these circles

[quaint karma]

algeez is always hype

[young pine]

my only issue with algs is there's not more

[rotund fox]

yeah maybe this is why i dont enjoy it as much cus i just like pubs 🥀

[wet stratus]

?

did someone from dsg dc?

NO AUDIO

[young pine]

I want effects controller checked expeditiously

[wet stratus]

alliance looking hot

[rotund fox]

https://x.com/TTrebb/status/1786519914670395754 ok this is funny

Rogue (@TTrebb) on X

LIFELINE HAS NAUGHTY TWEAKING OUT

Twitter · May 3, 2024, 10:15 PM

[wet stratus]

hardecki is just like that good huh

[rotund fox]

funny and also painfully unfortunate 🥀

[wet stratus]

how did they win that

fight

come watch with me

where?

icl moist looks so washed

i say that with great pain being an oce fan

tbf all teams coming from NA looks bad except dz

yeah but i mean teams that play in na league

dsg getting desperate lol

but theres no way this is a good play

considering how much rr has practised this contest

and they win it LMFAO

[wet stratus]

that was a crazy game

[wet stratus]

i take back everything i said about moist

[young pine]

Timmy and enemy deserve a better teammate

[wet stratus]

idk i honestly expected dsg to do even worse tbh

like they barely made lan no?

[lapis moat]

not tolerating dezign slander

he will figure it out

[ocean flame]

What happened

[wet stratus]

they dropped 62 points in B vs D

[uncut bison]

bro if DZ doesnt win this event

[wet stratus]

DZ is just like idk

they are actually on a different level

[uncut bison]

95 points and its only game 5

222 so far

[lapis moat]

best mnk in the world

zer0 is just walking into godspot every game

[wet stratus]

this has been the most exciting algs to watch

imo

NA dominance no longer exists

[uncut bison]

lol

[wet stratus]

HAHAHAHAHA

HAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHA

[uncut bison]

oh my god bro

[wet stratus]

HAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHJAIOJRORAHHRHREAI0JH0ERAJHAHA

[radiant ridge]

dz is so fucking insane

[quaint karma]

dude i didnt watch the last 3 games

wtf

andi just saw scores

what the fuck happened

theres no way dz won the last 3 games

[wet stratus]

I AM YOUR FATHER

THEY ONLY GET BETTER

[strange canyon]

Damn

[woeful garnet]

I know you

[mortal hatch]

YES THEY DID

AGAINST ALL ODDS

Game 1 = #3
Game 2 = #2
Game 3 = #2
Game 4 = #1
Game 5 = #1
Game 6 = #1

[silver olive]

did they win algs last year or 2 years ago?

[mortal hatch]

yeah they did

one of the Y3 Playoffs and Y2 Champs

[silver olive]

3 in a row that must be a first

and double second the previous ones

imagine they could have actually gotten 5 in a row

[uncut bison]

nah TSM did that to win champs last year

but i dont think 6 top 3s in a row has been done before at LAN

[true ravine]

thats insane

holy shit

[strange canyon]

From where

[woeful garnet]

Apex legends server

[strange canyon]

Yeah

[woeful garnet]

You and this other mexican

[strange canyon]

Lol

[woeful garnet]

Athaza

[wintry cypress]

https://media.discordapp.net/attachments/907484009360162846/1235394993787764847/Replay_2024-05-02_01-58-15-00.01.11.659-00.01.18.463-50mb.mp4?ex=6637827f&is=663630ff&hm=ca483b5de34ba45bb4770e53799e72292682829e0c3a805a8253f25ada91bd84&

No mag

Rip my clip

[sharp ice]

what in the smoothbot

[wintry cypress]

Just activated hollow mode fr

[true ravine]

1440x1080?

[wintry cypress]

My res?

[half salmon]

dude how am i getting worse ping playing on my own servers than NA and EU

[vague nexus]

https://media.discordapp.net/attachments/509814803825557527/1079881553255084192/ddos_range.gif

[young glade]

smoothbot main?

[wintry cypress]

nah

i mean my smoothbot is almost gm

but i dont main smoothbot

[young glade]

😲

[arctic violet]

someone for 3 strikes?

[young glade]

Whos excited for Solos on tuesday

[raven hull]

ive re watched this like 9 times

so silky

[radiant ridge]

what's the best way to record clips these days

is that their Shadowplay like feature?

[rigid jolt]

Yea

There’s a GitHub link that has a good guide on how to set it up and have an automatic scene switcher where it saves the clips to the appropriate game folder just like shadowplay

https://github.com/MFGAVIN/OBS-Alternative-to-Shadowplay this is the one that I followed, been running it for a while

[radiant ridge]

sick, i'll check it out

it's rare that i get clips that im like "oh man the boys gotta see this" but it's been enough times

thank you

?????????

[silver olive]

why do algs play only on storm point and worlds edge, i dont know the reasoning?

why not any of the other maps

[twilit flicker]

thats the current map pool

[bright elm]

broken moon

[wintry cypress]

OBS and nvidia instant replay

But instant replay can be buggy apparently

Personally never had issues with them, great file size for quality too

Also doesnt take nearly as much cpu as obs

But both have their strengths imo

[quaint karma]

that looks like controller

[ocean flame]

I see where predsmurf21 gets his gay tendencies

[uncut bison]

DZ on 4 wins in a row, 8 top 3s in a row

[wary star]

goated

[wet stratus]

u jinxed them u fucker xd

[uncut bison]

LOL

[wet stratus]

if serenity won that i would have creamed myself instantly damn

[young glade]

Any 3/3 KBM team

[wet stratus]

aurora

rc

[uncut bison]

theres actually a lot this lan

NTC, Riddle, Aurora, TYK, Crazy Racoon, MDY, prob more

reject

[quaint karma]

https://tenor.com/view/warzone-warzone-2-call-of-duty-aim-assist-gif-1061280176179905968

[wet stratus]

rc and aurora are the only ones that look good tho

[uncut bison]

i mean that wasnt the question tho

but yeah

[wet stratus]

yeah but they are a bit irrelevant

its a shame that ezflash couldnt attend

legend would be doing so much better istg

[wet stratus]

.

[quaint karma]

those kraber shots tho

[wet stratus]

4 oce teams in top 6 my lord

[quaint karma]

whos the 4th

[wet stratus]

not sure

[quaint karma]

NA looking bad today

[wet stratus]

sikezz and gild doin pretty well

[young glade]

Who is #1?

[wet stratus]

YOU WILL REGRET

[uncut bison]

Serenity, Moist, DZ, VP are all OCE majority

[quaint karma]

yeah i figured it out, didnt realize he said top 6

[wet stratus]

BRO

tsm actually just looks bad

like no bias

they were winning so many scrims before this weekend

like actually what happened

[young glade]

what team

[wet stratus]

#apex message

[young glade]

forgot to read my b

[wintry cypress]

is it just me or are plat players more braindead than usual this season

[quaint karma]

🗣️

[wet stratus]

is tsm really not going to make finals?

[uncut bison]

3 TRIALS ZONES

THROW THE WHOLE GAME OUT

WHAT IS THIS SHIT

[radiant ridge]

inshallah

but they always do

[young glade]

INSHALLAH

[wet stratus]

tsm made finals

gg

congrats on tsm for winning a thrid year in a row

[radiant ridge]

go figure the first tweet i make that does some numbers is this and it's about dezign's hog

[honest stone]

Checkout my VALORANT gameplay recorded with Insights.gg
https://insights.gg/v/1cfUxtr4QfGzcRmdZAmNHK

[uncut bison]

no red ram contest too

[rotund fox]

there r some mfs in here who need this done to them

i put this in the wrong channle ngl but its ok

[steep root]

Bruh

[lucid vault]

apex apex apex

https://tenor.com/view/wraith-apexdance-octane-dance-blood-gif-17961190

[silver olive]

do you guys do the routines before or after playing apex?

[wooden berry]

Best scoping sens?

[raven hull]

thats personal pref

i mean if you arent dying off drop then sure, theres very little risk at gold as its only -40

is it optimal? probably not. is it fun, yes

If you are looking for the best ways to improve, spam pubs not ranked.

well theres literally 0 risk in pubs, so you just ape everything

with ranked theres a good chance your team are going to hear shots and run away because they want placement

ends up with you playing more conservative and cautious

more time spent doing nothing

[half salmon]

ranked is literally just drop uncontested and ape everything

thats how u gain points

[raven hull]

Yeah with a 3 stack sure, but randoms dont do that

they hide

[half salmon]

play horizon

they see my Q they take it with me

or play pathy

they will take all your zips

[raven hull]

you have been blessed with teammates who have frontal lobes

[half salmon]

i mean u pretty much play to be doing 70% of the work

if u play with the expectations ur randoms do something then solo q is miserable

[raven hull]

no fill is good but its much harder as you need to position very well to win fights as you are always at the number disadvantage

[raven hull]

yeah you have to treat fights like your team have gone down already and you are clutching the 1v3

even then if the enemy is as competant as you, it jover

[half salmon]

i literally only play horizon double havoc

drop uncontested

ape everything i see

most important is spam pinging every sound you hear

if im in a 3 stack its a different story

actually sometimes i feel worse playing in a 3 stack

half of my focus gone into comming

[raven hull]

yeah it can be rough

my brain just clocks out sometimes

[half salmon]

im like maybe 20% better playing solo q

where i just shut up and shoot gun

if i can neurolink comms i would

[raven hull]

[half salmon]

brotha if u wanna solo q then play very aggressive

fuck ur teammates

[raven hull]

This also only works if you can aim

[half salmon]

horizon double havoc or havoc hemlock

[raven hull]

hyper agro then missing your shots

is monkas

[half salmon]

or rev

i havent played rev all season

just yesterday i was playing with kwokka

a rev ate an entire volt mag

and he was only cracked

like sure buddy

[raven hull]

when i play with my stack we dont usually lose in 3v3 aim duels (unless its cqc against a roller) but we die to positioning and decision making. All 3 of us suck ass at that

[half salmon]

my friend always does good entry damage

2 people just clean up

u not hitting pred solo q i can tell u that

pred is filled with boosters

u need a 3 stack to even have a chance at pred

look trust me, my team used to be pussies and play for zone and shit

we started aping everything and playing more aggressive

and saw more results

plus its just more fun to do so

if you can find a stack with the same ape everything mindset then ranked is actually super fun

just need to hyper focus on mechanics to do that

[raven hull]

Didnt you just start playing recently?

nice

[half salmon]

if u start playing recently, playing the retail game is more beneficial than r5

having good map knowledge is super important

id limit my r5 1v1s to like maybe 1 entire round at most

it helps with mechanics yes but its a bit hard to translate r5 1v1s into real game

[raven hull]

I mean if R5 is fun, do whats fun

this isnt really about min maxing

its a game init

do whats most fun

[half salmon]

erm it is

[raven hull]

[half salmon]

infact most of ur engagements nowadays is mid range

since everyone runs double ar

[raven hull]

shotguns are too risky

[half salmon]

havoc + hemlock or flatline is the strongest and consistent combo atm

volt too

next season digi is removed

so re45 and shotguns gets indirectly nerfed

[raven hull]

is sniper digi also getting chucked

do we know

[half salmon]

its already been cucked i think

[raven hull]

1x 301 is kvk's gun

[silver olive]

havoc without turbo tho?

[half salmon]

havoc without turbo is still good

[raven hull]

havoc without turbo is still good

????

[half salmon]

?!

[silver olive]

lmao

[raven hull]

hivemind moment

[half salmon]

S+ tier is havoc turbo
S tier is havoc no turbo

[silver olive]

idk i feel like if i have flatline instead of no turbo by the time it charges up i already could have done 50dmg

[half salmon]

thing with havoc is the ttk

[raven hull]

just constantly edge your havoc then

[half salmon]

if u learn to edge or havoc or deal with it and use no turbo its fine

maybe close range fights u will have difficulties

[raven hull]

it used to be better to run no turbo pre s20 anyway

[half salmon]

but u have a secondary ar for a reason

[raven hull]

so a lot of people are just used to it

[half salmon]

i threw away turbos

im jus like that

[silver olive]

arent shotties better for aping tho?

[raven hull]

risky

you miss a pk shot against a roller with a car

u lose

you have to hit everything

which isnt a reasonable ask

[silver olive]

what if i miss a full mag of spitfire

[raven hull]

try opening your eyes or holding your mouse

that might make a difference

[silver olive]

i was done dirty by spitfire hipfire a few times

[half salmon]

cover and high ground >>

very nais

for now its thought but later on will be natural dw

dont take fair 1v1s

[silver olive]

oh damn you're like new new

its ok a friend also just started as well and he is just as lost

biggest mistake i see is not healing enough

[raven hull]

Guilty

[silver olive]

i'd rather you die trying to heal than run around cracked for no reason

[raven hull]

Vod reviews will be your best friend

[silver olive]

depends how far are enemies/teammates

but if you watch algs for example you will see a lot of them just popping bats during fights if enemy is not right on top of them

[raven hull]

Thats a bit of an odd question tbh, it depends on what you want to do. Do you want to push for ranks or do you want to get better and roll lobbies

then spend all your time in pubs for now focusing on your playstyle and positioning

plus the season ends in what

2 days?

may as well be playing pubs

only just realised ur pfp is emilia...based

It looks like she got buffed in s3

[half salmon]

just send vods

i can watch them later

[raven hull]

Yeah there is some form of SBMM in pubs, it feels a bit more random these days. to me atleast. Some games will be a pred 3 stack others will be lv 40 3 stacks

im going to start streaming so i can store my vods there instead of on my own storage

steal storage from twitch and AWS

[silver olive]

i just wish they separated inputs so i dont feel like a waste of time whenever i get rollered

learning strafe theory and strafeaim and roller is just like "ok bro"

[arctic violet]

just mirror them

[silver olive]

is that the go to way vs controller?

[twilit flicker]

if they dont expect it

but if they do its suicide

[quaint karma]

average vt diamond

is this your first fps game

if enemies are not looking at you you’re getting in free damage

if you’re diamond i suggest getting tracking to like master and then just spending the rest of your time aim training in r5/firing range

also most of this game is just positioning tbh

avoid taking close range fights if you can

keep your strafes longer

this game is all tracking

that’s where roller dominates unfortunately

and also where you can’t really mess up

if you mess up long or mid range you just get to go into cover and heal

[cunning crane]

https://outplayed.tv/media/lWX7Da considering how BAD my dynamic clicking used to be this is really good, been training it recently, it's my biggest weakness but it's being paying off in game

[wintry cypress]

My plat teammate doing spiders dying to zone

Literally didnt heal

How are these ppl in plat man 😭

[strange canyon]

Lol

I had a lifeline teammate who stood still when they were shooting

[silver olive]

to play lifeline you need more than 1 braincell otherwise you cant press res

which is already a very big ask

in three strikes especially

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=9psv7hKn5Qs&ab_channel=LemaaniteGaming

relevant clip

me in three strikes 90% of time

[wintry cypress]

Yeah true

My lifeline had a 1v1 which turned 1v2 against him and i was in his building, he never rezzed me

In 3 strikes as well

[silver olive]

the opposite is true, teammates pushing away from lifeline like morons

[strange canyon]

The sentinel is fun to use

But I barely ever use it bc I'm bad with snipers

[silver olive]

i think i played with that guy the name looks familiar

[twilit flicker]

when do finals start

[cunning crane]

https://outplayed.tv/media/L81xER perfect mad maggie utility usage (we won this game without getting knocked)

[turbid condor]

Guys

Who the best apex Aimer on kbm now a days

And why does everyone use like 43-37 cm

Shit so slow

[rigid jolt]

Saw this guy on Twitter named wyd future, crazy aimer

1600 .65 is the real god sens, like 40cm

[turbid condor]

Yeh I see everyone on that now

Or around that

[sharp ice]

fym so slow arent u a cs player

[turbid condor]

And quake

I play like loads of senses on cs

[turbid condor]

But games like apex quake and battlefield I play ~20

For a tracking game like apex I thought 40 ish kinda slow

[twilit flicker]

its not

just move your hand

[edgy crane]

blud is using hemlok on single fire 💀

[sharp ice]

tbf its a br so precision is valued more ig

[barren jackal]

the finals will be in roundabout 3 hours, right?

[turbid condor]

[twilit flicker]

5

[barren jackal]

huhh

rip for me i guess

[arctic violet]

snakeow

[barren jackal]

hollow_o and snakeow

[twilit flicker]

mav

[bright elm]

snakeow

[arctic violet]

this dude is aimbot fr

[bright elm]

kanghoon

but idk if he still plays

there's a lot of great aimers

[turbid condor]

Pub stomped

His aim rly good yeh but predictive af

[bright elm]

doesn't really matter

he can most likely aim the same level against people who can actually strafe

[turbid condor]

Bro

Half of like people clips yeh

Mfs just strafe in one direction

Or their strafes are fucking ass

The strafe speed in apex is so slow its mental

[bright elm]

i mean you can say the same thing about any pubstomper

[ornate gorge]

i mean there are boomers with shit raw mechanics but they predict so well they're able to be as good or even better

[turbid condor]

Reactive tracking a lot harder than predictive

That why stranding so important

[turbid condor]

And most ranked players

Top lvl they have good strafing

But I feel like half the people don’t actually truly know what good strafing is 😭

[bright elm]

more like 90% of the playerbase

90+

[raven hull]

Me i am the 90%

[bright elm]

but predictive aim is still aim regardless

hence why i said kanghoon

all you said was best aim and the players we've mentioned all have amazing aim

[wet stratus]

if tsm wins again im going to break something in my room

istg

[ocean flame]

Wow this guy looks good

Looks better than hollow

[bright elm]

hollow does look up to kanghoon for aim inspiration

and snake

[ornate gorge]

kanghoon is nasty

[bright elm]

and redf

i forgot about redf

https://twitter.com/Redfaimer

Redfai (@Redfaimer) on X

@AimerzHQ | old KovaaKs and Apexpred感度 デバイス https://t.co/3rfSG0xftE l 配信 https://t.co/m18qVyvZdd

Twitter

he hasn't posted in a long time tho

over a year

[turbid condor]

insane

so easy to aim on this

its mental

it like

matches the enemy strafe pattern perfectly for my hand movement

lol

[rigid jolt]

yuuup

[frail kiln]

I think DZ should win today

I'm hoping TSM at least shows up though it would go crazy for the storyline at least

[strange canyon]

I can't do that

A lot of the time my hand movement is slower than the strafe

So I increased my sens a bit

I actually haven't payed attention if I still have that issue tho

[turbid condor]

lol

Yeh it doesn’t happen often

But when I was playing earlier it felt like 1:1 to my hand movements

Like when I moved my arm to track it just felt super intuitive kinda

[strange canyon]

I'm gonna increase my sens a bit again whenever I can play

[turbid condor]

I can play like 43-10 cm on apex fine

[strange canyon]

I've only played between 32-50cm

Rn it's 1200 1

[turbid condor]

I played 7cm highest

On quake and cs

But rn I’m like 39 on apex and idk what else on other games I swap loads

I’m getting a wlmouse beast x soon as well

So no doubt my sens will swap around with that

[strange canyon]

I still use a superlight

Sometimes I use my Atlantis

[bright elm]

i burned my atlantis

after getting op1

(i gave it away to my friend)

[bright elm]

7cm is wild

wtf

lol i remember playing 3cm genji when i was throwing on my alt account back to diamond

[turbid condor]

same

i use a gpx with an aqua control 2

but ima get a wooting 60he soon and a beast x soon

just upgraded my cpu

[strange canyon]

I remember playing at like 12cm when I was new to mnk

[turbid condor]

also how can i uncap the fps on apex

[bright elm]

huge upgrade

[turbid condor]

its capped at 300

[turbid condor]

yeh

[bright elm]

u can't

it's hard capped at 300

by the engine

[strange canyon]

That's the highest yeah

[turbid condor]

rn im on a corsair k70 tkl, gpx, and ac2 sakura

but

that is literally like

the exact same as e36 aimbot so

im winning

[strange canyon]

I play on a laptop

And use a laptop keyboard

Lol

[turbid condor]

lol

[turbid condor]

W
its p easy

on quake

and ow

apex a little harder

but for quake and ow its ez

[frail kiln]

Zer0 switched to this a few days before LAN

[turbid condor]

0.65 ?

whos zer0

[frail kiln]

Ye ye

Best MNK pro player

[turbid condor]

wb lible ace

[frail kiln]

That's the 1v1 guy?

I mean he's probably good but that 1v1 tourney you can just abuse head glitch I think it was kinda stupid

[turbid condor]

this is 8cm

[turbid condor]

he plays ranked too

and e36 aimbot is also insane

and he plays a,gs\

algs

[turbid condor]

bro

he uses the exact same cm360 on hipfire and 1x

wtf

must feel so high on 1x

[sharp ice]

what multipliers do yall use for ads?

[bright elm]

1

default value

[sharp ice]

how tf do u even flick on the purple scopes???

nvm i forgot yall play on 80+cm

[bright elm]

you move mouse a lot

[sharp ice]

yeh yeh

[bright elm]

mind you

i play on 35cm

so

idk what my sensitivities are converted to on purple scopes

[sharp ice]

im still trash at resetting mouse correctly

[frail kiln]

It feels really good

[bright elm]

but i legit just move mouse

fast

[sharp ice]

i play 1.5 800 so i think thats 34?ish

[bright elm]

same sens

basically

i spent like 2-3 weeks training speed on like 50cm

so my hand is like usain bolt

[frail kiln]

you can ads and go back to hip fire without feeling slowdown

[turbid condor]

its the exact same cm tho

[turbid condor]

1 but im trying this zero guys rn

1.330399

exact same cm as hipfire

[frail kiln]

I swear by it since I got adjusted to it

[sharp ice]

whats the hipfire?

[frail kiln]

.65 @1600

[turbid condor]

with 1.330399 ads

ima try and see

[frail kiln]

He swaps around but that's what he's using rn

[sharp ice]

40 ish cm?

[turbid condor]

39

has he even got good aim

?

[sharp ice]

😭

[frail kiln]

Yes he's nasty

on R5 and in game he is kill leader consistently

[sharp ice]

tbh u should be fine on 40 on what 60 fov that u get

[turbid condor]

im using 39 hip and 39 ads

this is gonna feel weird af

[sharp ice]

[frail kiln]

you know about using ADS to reset hip fire on ARs right @turbid condor

[turbid condor]

no

spam ads?

[frail kiln]

you can keep your strafe speed and ads every 6-7 or so bullets

and it'll be mostly accurate

[sharp ice]

erm

[frail kiln]

Just like tap ads

[sharp ice]

do we jitter aim

guts

[frail kiln]

I never put time into practicing it tbh

[sharp ice]

also

since yall are all good trackers

how realistically usefull is ras strafing

[turbid condor]

fuck

the ads feels so high

cause

its same cm but just way lower fov

[frail kiln]

what FOV are you on?

I've been liking 110, it's rare you find an MNK player not using 110 I'm not sure why

[turbid condor]

110

im on about when iads

with this ads multi

[sharp ice]

yh it feels faster cuz of fov chnage

[frail kiln]

It takes some adjustment I won't lie

[turbid condor]

shit feels ass

[bright elm]

eh

i only found it practical when using shotguns

and even then it's not that useful anywhere else

[sharp ice]

thats fair

[bright elm]

the only movement tech i use consistently would be like

zipline superjump

tap strafing

supergliding

wall bouncing

[sharp ice]

i honestly have no idea how to move anymore cuz im addicted to lurching and fatigue boucing but i feel like im just an easier target yk

[bright elm]

that's pretty much it

i haven't learned how to mantle jump yet

which i should probably learn how to do

but even that is limited to certain buildings

with ziplines

[sharp ice]

yeh mantle jump very usefull

[sharp ice]

enough to make it worth, its easier than superglides

[bright elm]

having good strafes is more important than being able to perform all this movement tech

[sharp ice]

true that

[bright elm]

yeah im going to start learning

although my superglide consistency is pretty good rn

[sharp ice]

but wont that again just be like a lddh scen or whatnot

[sharp ice]

i still cant consistantly hit em even tho low fps is easier

i should get good at them tho

def very good for resetting

[bright elm]

wym

[sharp ice]

resctive track

sry im tirsd

[bright elm]

no like what are u referring to when you say it's like lddh scen

strafing?

[sharp ice]

oh, i mean "good astrafing"

i feel like its just as easy to track as good lurching

but tbh most players i face arent good at movement at all

[bright elm]

ill put it into perspective

most pub players will just walk in a straight line or do some variation of ad spamming

that's just bad strafing

in the context within a 1v1 close range fight where both players are looking at each other

good strafers would move in a way where their strafing is unpredictable