apex

[quaint karma]

for the lower ranks

[twilit flicker]

are u new to fps games?

[silver olive]

no just never actually practiced

[light rapids]

how casual are we talking

when i first started i didnt even hit bronze

[wintry cypress]

Me when my brain is overloaded from aimtraining

[wintry cypress]

Really?

I had like bronze tracking and i think silver or gold static

[light rapids]

yup

[wintry cypress]

Cause i played cs

[raven hull]

i genuinly feel like i have brain damage trying to do plaza more than once

[light rapids]

tbf it was the first year of me using a mouse

to shoot

that might even be below the casual threshold

[wintry cypress]

For me rn it sucks to do as well, i think im just a bit burnt out on aimtraining so im doing it 4 days/week now instead of 6

[wintry cypress]

Could be

Idk if desktop mouse usage transfers to control at all

[light rapids]

only time i had desktop mouse usage was in it class in school

[quaint karma]

idk 20 years of fps experience

but hes a casual

[light rapids]

oh alright

👴

[wintry cypress]

Is he an ex cs pro by any chance

[quaint karma]

no

but he played a lot of cs

do ex cs pros get silver static?

[mental ridge]

lol i think i figuredout why im smoothbot jade

[ocean flame]

https://twitter.com/Xander_EU/status/1763608584586150133?t=n4ewtKnKnokqpZuWI8c6kw&s=19

Xander (@Xander_EU) on X

@BalvarineFPS road to 0.72 accuracy in 5 mins (practically impossible) I get so much worse overtime.

Twitter · Mar 1, 2024, 4:53 PM

My favorite controller player

[twilit flicker]

they all look the same

[vagrant basalt]

what is going on with apex

whole game is a hot mess how am i supposed to complete my battlepass like this

[quaint karma]

no, this guy is wildly better than almost anyone

[ocean flame]

Yooo

U a big fan too?

[quaint karma]

nah but this guy is good

[twilit flicker]

ken better idc

[quaint karma]

ken has lower acc on this

and lower acc on r5 overall as well

now idk how xander got his acc, maybe he like farms it somehow but from what ive seen he just plays the game like anyone else

[arctic violet]

is that with aa?

[wintry cypress]

Prob not

[quaint karma]

obviously

[ocean flame]

So talented 🙏

[mental ridge]

maybe he just has more aa than the legal ammount u know nobody would notice if he illegaly replaced some of his inputs with external aimassist

[quaint karma]

i mean this is achievable if youre a 16 year old and grind for it (which he is and he does)

his acc is only 2% higher than koyfuls

[arctic violet]

why he would do that? for a Twitter clip?😂

[quaint karma]

he has the highest acc on all of r5

it does mean something

pros look to the r5 leaderboard for potential players

[frail kiln]

mixed input games 🤔

[mental ridge]

people do alot look at the ammount of cheaters in ranked

not saying he cheats

but if a controllerplayer just adds a few % of extra aimassist literally nobody will notice

[quaint karma]

its true

[arctic violet]

yeah but if u can't do that in main game it's pointless to cheat in r5

[mental ridge]

like how u gonna tell if its 0.4 or 0.5

[mental ridge]

u can cheat in retail apex aswell lol

[quaint karma]

also anyone here have a console?

[mental ridge]

yeah why

[arctic violet]

yep

[ocean flame]

Cheating is too easy

[quaint karma]

have you played apex on 120fps on it

[arctic violet]

nah don't play on console since 2 years

[ocean flame]

You guys dont realize that so many controller players cheat and add extra aa or recoil because its easy to hide with aa

[mental ridge]

its not comparable to apex on pc imo quiet alot of latency still
nowhere comparable to a optimized pc

[ocean flame]

Nobody blinks an eye when you see a roller player hitting crazy clips

[quaint karma]

nah just asking if you played 120fps

[mental ridge]

yeah but i was off roller for a few months already so i sucked ass

[vagrant basalt]

i swear apex is the most perfect fps ever
just needs a lot of work on crashes, bugs, balancing, performance, exploits, cheaters, and a few more collection events per month 💯 💯

[quaint karma]

according to someone i know 120fps is not .4 on console

but actually like .5 or at least higher than .4

at least thats how it felt to him

wondering if its true

[ocean flame]

Its not

Theres no reason for respawn to lie abt it. 120 fps aa ofc feels a bit better than 60fps

[quaint karma]

they never claimed it was lowered to .4

[ocean flame]

They did

[quaint karma]

if you read the patchnotes

[mental ridge]

i have the same feeling especially since if u play 120hz u can select between console and pc aimassist and they specifically stated that they adjusted aimassist

[vagrant basalt]

i think people just looked at the config files and drew their conclusions no?

[ocean flame]

Respawn devs said it in twitter posts

[quaint karma]

has anyone looked at config files recently?

[frail kiln]

I'm fairly positive the dev said it on Twitter

[quaint karma]

can you link one

[mental ridge]

send post

[frail kiln]

One of the leads for that high performance console feature

[true ravine]

True but isn’t more AA

Most of the cheaters are wall hacks and rewasd users

When u see someone with a strong AA

[frail kiln]

https://twitter.com/OhaiJens/status/1754580360078537006?t=E4iCkLl7sZPK93hA0s95OQ&s=19

Jens (@OhaiJens) on X

@Rando147 @Pav_tweets Nope AA is adjusted when perf mode is enabled to accommodate for differences in tick rate

Twitter · Feb 5, 2024, 6:58 PM

[true ravine]

Probably is mnk with aim assist

[frail kiln]

nosh could be right lol

.4 is never directly mentioned 🧐

[quaint karma]

subjectively, from kill cams, ifought someone yesterday that was playing 120fps console

he was decent

but i have good strafe and his AA was like not affected by it

it seemed stronger than .4 just from killcams

i know what .4 looks like

my friend has a ps5

hes an mnk player but he played controller on pc and console back to back

and said it was higher than .4

it also seemd higher just from his performance

seemed

[frail kiln]

tbh I think without even being schizo your probably right

[mental ridge]

from the console people i talked to all said that there is a notable difference between pc aimassist and konsole aimassist on 120hz

[quaint karma]

well yeah lower value is noticeable obviously

but it doesnt have to be .4

[frail kiln]

It's just par the course for respawn decisions

[mental ridge]

read again

[quaint karma]

what am i reading exactly?

[toxic magnet]

@mental ridge I FUCKING DID IT

FUCK STATIC

[mental ridge]

hell yeah grinder

[mental ridge]

oh wait u didnt read it earlier in 120hz mode u can toggle between pc and console aimassist in alc

[toxic magnet]

diamond

[quaint karma]

yeah that option wouldnt be there

[frail kiln]

My benchmarks are pretty shit right now 😔🥀

[toxic magnet]

same

but they improving

😄

[frail kiln]

one thing for static that I want to try

Is under flicking more

[frail kiln]

because I genuinely overflick 90% of the time

[toxic magnet]

bro

[mental ridge]

look kovaaks overview no more typing into excel

[toxic magnet]

where you find this

[mental ridge]

https://kovaaks.com/kovaaks/benchmark-tracker

[quaint karma]

https://streamable.com/4af0ln can you fanboy for me as well @ocean flame

[ocean flame]

Youre terrible

I only fanboy for my favorite cheaters

[light rapids]

Heard the same thing from quite a few 120fps consolers

[frail kiln]

https://app.voltaic.gg/u/GattsuStan

this is what I was playing but is the voltaic app like a previous season benchmark?

[frail kiln]

this is dope

[mental ridge]

yes

[toxic magnet]

@mental ridge benchmark is fucked

on kovaaks website

[mental ridge]

huh?

[toxic magnet]

says plat on kovaaks website if i put it in the benchmark it shows diamond

2 different ranks for same scores

it doesnt add up

[mental ridge]

look for typo on spread sheet

send ss of both

[toxic magnet]

no typo

[mental ridge]

send ss of website

[toxic magnet]

look at both

this is fucked

[arctic violet]

yeah the bench tracker doesn't calculate good the total energy

cause it's unofficial

[toxic magnet]

so use spreadsheet?

[arctic violet]

yeah

with the autoupdater sheet tool if u are lazy and want to see avg score

[mental ridge]

atleast we can use the tracker to fill out benchmark results

[arctic violet]

that's the lg private server? or they add a public one?

[toxic magnet]

true

[quaint karma]

well its public rn but itll go private soon unless youre whitelisted

[arctic violet]

got it

[radiant ridge]

yea i'm sure

[arctic violet]

is twitter😂

[frail kiln]

rofl

[true ravine]

average twitter blue user

[radiant ridge]

staying on playstation for HARDER LOBBIES 💪 NOTHING NEEDS TO BE EASY

[true ravine]

Oregon is crazy to farm RP

lmao

2k+ RP since yesterday

[bright elm]

gold

😭

[radiant ridge]

content creator things

[alpine trail]

twitter blue members be like "you're just mad that i can give a billionaire money for features that should be free"

tru

cough

lol wtf

[alpine trail]

I have to sub to this guy

[frail kiln]

Steel series moments used to be so good

what's optimal clipping software

[twilit flicker]

nothing beats obs

[frail kiln]

I can't use this POS software anymore 😔

[frail kiln]

true, everything else is just OBS under the hood anyways

[arctic violet]

obs or shadowplay

[twilit flicker]

obs better

u dont need nvidia bloatware

[bright elm]

obs

replay buffer is the same functionality

except with more freedom and autonomy to setting stuff like bitrate

fps

resolution

[arctic violet]

nah it's the same

[bright elm]

and adding other stuff like webcams

or whatever

[arctic violet]

obs more cpu demanding

[bright elm]

for recording 60 fps gameplay?

lo

lol

i mean imo unless ur cpu is garbage, i don't see the point in not using obs

[arctic violet]

tried both and yep, shadowplay is just easier

[bright elm]

whatever works for you ig

lol

[true ravine]

shadowplay is dogshit lmao

obs is a lot better

[bright elm]

i don't rlly get how shadowplay is easier especially if ur recording @ 60 fps 1080p

[true ravine]

probably cuz he doesnt want to setup OBS

[arctic violet]

tell me why dude

cause I can't see any difference

[true ravine]

input lag, large clips (too heavy), low quality, cant chose fps, etc.

[arctic violet]

u can set bitrate resolution aswell on shadowplay

[ocean flame]

What input lag

[devout tusk]

Shadowplay you can do 60 or 120 fps now

[arctic violet]

show me test of input lag please

[devout tusk]

Obs has 1 frame lag too

[ocean flame]

Yall really clutching ur pearls over a few frames of lag every time

[arctic violet]

u can choose fps, resolution bitrate ecc

[bright elm]

then keep using shadowplay

[true ravine]

^

[bright elm]

why did u even ask the quesiton

if you're going to argue that shadowplay is easier

and be stubborn about it

[arctic violet]

i don't ask any question dude

[bright elm]

??

[arctic violet]

y'all saying is better without reason

[bright elm]

did i misinterpret this message

or smth?

[alpine trail]

[bright elm]

without reason

ok lmao

you can keep yapping im out of here

[arctic violet]

it was a answer to the guy

[true ravine]

.

without reason

[ocean flame]

Shadowplay gives me 3x higher fps and decreases my ping to servers by 200%

[arctic violet]

u said input lag, there's no test about that, can't choose fps and it's not true

[frail kiln]

sold.

shadowplay it is

[arctic violet]

so yeah without reason

[unreal arch]

a bit smoothness

[arctic violet]

but yeah your favorite tweaker said obs is better so😂😂

[frail kiln]

there's a little tweaker in all of us

[true ravine]

OBS with VPN

nice!

[true ravine]

keep using it

[alpine trail]

[true ravine]

answer: use a debloated nvidia shit cuz the app is dogshit and will cause u problems

[arctic violet]

keep repeat things that u heard from "tweakers" like a bot

[true ravine]

?

keep using it

❤️

[arctic violet]

i will be so curious to see ur avg pc latency😂

[true ravine]

200ms latency 😎

[wintry cypress]

https://cdn.discordapp.com/attachments/907484009360162846/1234660517847502919/Replay_2024-04-30_00-31-46-00.01.17.083-00.01.28.725-50mb.mp4?ex=66323376&is=6630e1f6&hm=f4602f4be31b81ade55bf43b545dbc4bfeae05801ef5dbf5a8135b9840d2d66f&

get rolled nerd

[true ravine]

poggy having fun

on apex

[wintry cypress]

Almost

This was me completing challenges yesterday

Now i can actually play for fun

Lol

[wintry cypress]

Oh god

[radiant ridge]

how the fuck do you only do 127 damage in 14 minutes

solo queue ranked has gotta be some sort of psyop

[feral merlin]

why are you getting matched up with so many cheaters

[radiant ridge]

wow he's pretty good

[alpine trail]

Masters complete VT just to get point sixed.

[bright elm]

😭

[radiant ridge]

go figure there's some dipshit academia paper that would say this

[alpine trail]

...Counter Strike?

[radiant ridge]

(or Lack Thereof)

[bright elm]

yea i did a quick skim and it's basically just talking about how close each different aim assist technique can replicate aimbot

or at least 100% accuracy

aka it's effectiveness

not necessarily related to player balance/experience

[radiant ridge]

this guy has done a lot of papers on the topic

[bright elm]

he seems pro assistance

[feral merlin]

he's really into aim assist

[bright elm]

i mean i don't mind aim assist at all but the way modern games implement it is so garbage

[radiant ridge]

no shot

[frail kiln]

I wont even lie I've been possessed by the topic of aim assist

[radiant ridge]

this explains a lot

[bright elm]

halo infinite

fucking bullet magnetism for everyone!

[radiant ridge]

that's so fucking funny

[frail kiln]

I know literally nothing about Infinite

but don't the MnK players that stuck around

[bright elm]

everyone has AA

[frail kiln]

actually like it

[bright elm]

halo infinite is fun

[frail kiln]

tbh

treating Halo Infinite as an FPS

is genuinely

[bright elm]

i doubt they like it because of the AA

[frail kiln]

a fucking mistake

[bright elm]

it's just that the game is fun

[feral merlin]

I remember chilling on infinite with my xbox when it came out

[frail kiln]

it's like... a moba or something it's just so different idk

[bright elm]

it's an arena shooter

you spawn with the default AR + pistol with an objective to complete

there's better weapons scattered around the map + powerups

along with vehicles

im a big halo fan

[radiant ridge]

[frail kiln]

I was watching Shroud and Summit play and it looked like a nice boomer experience

[bright elm]

who were the subjects in question

😭

the problem with modern AA is the fact that it does help new FPS players, but it also literally makes experienced FPS players gods

[half salmon]

really depends on the game tbh but almost every single game has overtuned aa

[bright elm]

it does depend on the game yeah

but like you said, literally every popular modern fps title has overtuned aa

[half salmon]

arguably console overwatch is the hardest game to aim in yet the aa is so weak compared to every other fps out there

god forbid r6 console doesnt even have aa

yet theres still demons who put in the work on both games to become good, overtuned aa is just here to spoonfeed the 9-5 dads

actually an outlier is the finals id argue

[radiant ridge]

i think it's the outdated idea that "games should be fun first and foremost"

even when dealing with competitive games

[half salmon]

the finals has the most op aa in any fps ive ever seen yet mnk is still a dominant input in that game

[frail kiln]

I have so much respect

for that Gyro CS guy

he's insane

[light rapids]

how comes you play roller then

[half salmon]

when was the last time ive played that game brother

[bright elm]

i mena yeah games should be fun, but you shouldn't have to overtune AA for a game to be fun

[light rapids]

idk

[half salmon]

im on my ow2 grind now

[light rapids]

was mnk not the dominant input then

[radiant ridge]

isn't that because of how much rotational movement you've gotta do to play tho

[half salmon]

mnk is the dominant input brah

its just the game is so chaotic controllers physically cannot keep up

[radiant ridge]

yeah that's what i was trying to say

[half salmon]

ye thats what i feel from playing the finals atleast

[radiant ridge]

a lot of his work is based on the idea that "you're good at the game and your friend is bad, you should both be able to play and have fun"

i guess his vision is fun is equal outcomes despite skill differences

[half salmon]

i think ow2 did ok best in terms of balancing controller and mnk

[frail kiln]

by that do you mean no aim assist kek

[half salmon]

if u play controller ur considered a casual so ur only option for aa is on console

if u want to be competitive then mnk on pc >>

[radiant ridge]

the only input i really have a problem with is mnk on console when almost no games are balanced for it and it's just to get the maximum benefit of both inputs

anyone who does that is a bitch

[bright elm]

the ximmers

they plague both r6 and ow

on console

although ow is working on dealing with them

[half salmon]

ow is cracking down on xim

xim has a built in bypass for r6

[radiant ridge]

i know the company is confident that they'll be able to bypass whatever detection they're putting out

[half salmon]

so r6 is dead in tgat regards

[bright elm]

yeah

[radiant ridge]

which is weird that it's a legitimate commercial entity trying to bypass a game's anticheat

[bright elm]

high level console r6 is just all ximmers

[half salmon]

ow will prob get bypassed soon

[bright elm]

from what my cousin told me

he just gave up on staying in champion and decided to stay in diamond/plat to play with his friends

[half salmon]

funnily enough one of the bypasses for xim is using a fucking wooting

[bright elm]

no way

[half salmon]

r6 and ow flag ximmers on how unnatural their controller movements are

by using a wooting + optimized settings, they get their controller movements as close to a real controller as possible

thats how they bypass any xim detection ow or r6 put out

[bright elm]

that is insane

[radiant ridge]

if i put in the same effort into improving as people put into making sure they can keep cheating after each detection, i'd be really good.

just not built like them.

[lusty cliff]

does anyone here can actually superglide consistently without having wooting or polar or any magetic switch keebs?

[radiant ridge]

i can after flipping my spacebar upside down

[lusty cliff]

oh alright good to know ^^

[lusty cliff]

at which fps?

[radiant ridge]

i lock at different fps, 180-300 have all been fine after a day or so of getting used to the timing

but it really comes down to your keyboard, key profile, etc.

[lusty cliff]

ahhh alright thx ^^

[half salmon]

i did the thing where u flip ur C key

[lusty cliff]

i see

its either you flip your space bar or C key

[half salmon]

ye

flipped space bar would be more convenient but i dont see why its any better

[quaint karma]

i guess no one in voltaic can read

[radiant ridge]

excited for this reply

[quaint karma]

clearly says here that there were 'no significant gains in performance and experienital changes'

experiential

this is about improving on the input

otherwise why would it say above that there is a difference in performance between the 2 groups?

like did you just forget what the first sentence said

[bright elm]

yes i pointed it out

it was about comparing the different aim assist types and it's effectiveness

it's just the discussion went off topic

from that paper

[quaint karma]

idk i scrolled up and randomly saw this and the next 3 messages seemed like they didnt understand what was said

didnt read all the rest of it\

[radiant ridge]

i read through most of his papers published, mostly to see his methods

[bright elm]

chopsticks just pointed out how the person who wrote it also happens to be involved in halo infinite

[radiant ridge]

the conclusions were just funny to read

[bright elm]

and it's funny

[quaint karma]

is there a link to the paper

[radiant ridge]

yea sec

he's got them all on his site

https://rodrigov.ca/publications/

[quaint karma]

[radiant ridge]

his most interesting one is actually about disclosing assistance to players or not

when you take the study out of context, it's just really funny

no aim assist == lower at everything except Effort

[wintry cypress]

Lmaooo

Controller players are actually having a worse time with aim assist on?

[radiant ridge]

they state it's because success is internal and failure is external, they found people who knew they had aim assist were likely to attribute their success to the aim assist instead

they were all on mouse and keyboard for this study though

[wintry cypress]

Hmm

[raven hull]

anyone else get it where all their settings randomly reset back to default

ive had it happen twice in the last few weeks

starting to get quite annoying

[young pine]

it hapens alot going from r5 to the main game

very annoying

[alpine trail]

shotguns are somehow better in fortnite than in this game. how could this be?

[fathom fiber]

fk apex fk steam, fk ea

fks banned me for no reason

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After thoroughly investigating your account and concern, we again found that we actioned your account correctly after it was found to have violated our User Agreement. We will also be unable to provide any details regarding our internal procedures.

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When did I cheat?

I don't even know how computers work and theses cuntters accuse me of this...

I logged in after like 4 months and got banned

They need to show me proof.

This is scary.

[fathom fiber]

nosh you can vouch for me right?>

[bright elm]

this is an automated response

most likely

definitely sounds like it too

[toxic magnet]

most likely a automated response

tryna get any human response from them is very slim

unless you are a known creator it’s over for you

[uncut bison]

https://x.com/Koyful/status/1785463575449891208

XSET Koy (@Koyful) on X

Following split 1, XSET let us know that they are withdrawing from apex. After discussing w the team I have decided to explore all available team options for split 2 and am an unrestricted free agent. pt 1

Twitter · May 1, 2024, 12:17 AM

hope koy lands somewhere good

[severe canyon]

Zamn

[alpine trail]

another one bites the dust. what a shame.

[bright elm]

https://x.com/eraisedd/status/1785399452078886931

𝗘𝗥𝗔𝗜𝗦𝗘𝗗 (@eraisedd) on X

New hump-tech 💦

Twitter · Apr 30, 2024, 8:02 PM

who wishes they were the door

🗣️

[radiant ridge]

wait what the fuck

this spread fast because i just got DICKED on with this

[robust pecan]

Look what i found

[alpine trail]

How the fuck are you moving in a deathbox?

ur a controller not mnk bruh wtf...

[robust pecan]

Heheheh

I found a way

Using steam

So its allowed

[devout widget]

BRO AHAHAHAHAHA

[robust pecan]

Guys

What should i buy with crafting metals

I got the psy to win r9 and the car and the wingman

What else

[raven hull]

in terms of ironsights thats it really

just get what you want that looks cool and isnt visual clutter

[devout widget]

Which ones are those?

[devout tusk]

With the pipe on the side

[robust pecan]

Outland avalanche and inforgot the wingmans name

Okay try to pick 1

I have this seosons hori skin the purple one from the free things

And i have the cosmic one where its her defualt skin but infected

But octane all his skins are shit

I wanna main him buy his skins are so shit

I also wanna main hori

So idk

[devout widget]

Alr thank you

[muted moth]

do you consider 1 sens 1600dpi high sens?

[true ravine]

it is high sens

28cm if im not wrong

[devout tusk]

A lot faster than that

[true ravine]

26

[bright elm]

yes

high sens fs

[golden sphinx]

i mostly use the post malone skin for him

same with horizon

[arctic violet]

damn the lg server is so fun

why gatekeeping 😭

[muted moth]

im a small mousepad mf so i adapt

[twilit flicker]

we dont want ai experiments

people jumping around n shit just ruins the practice

[arctic violet]

true true

let me innn i want learn to strafe better

[spiral stirrup]

hello everyone, do we have a list in the kvk to train APEX? where can I find it? English is a little hard for me😭

[true ravine]

#resources

[lapis moat]

if they fix hitreg i’ll legit be thanos on it

[arctic violet]

@twilit flicker also u know how to exec autoexec for graphics?

[twilit flicker]

its fine for me

[twilit flicker]

the roblox graphics?

[lapis moat]

it was pretty bad when i played it hopefully they lock in and improve it

[arctic violet]

yep i guess, like i have already the cfg file but do i need to put the +exec on the launcher?

[twilit flicker]

https://twitter.com/K9Livv_/status/1781731067373765025

wA Liv (@K9Livv_) on X

tutorial

r5 dir -> cfg -> config_default_pc.cfg

https://t.co/DkAkw3AKNs

delete everything and paste

click restore default mouse & keyboard settings in game

change your binds again

do it at the start of every map you load

Twitter · Apr 20, 2024, 5:06 PM

hold it

[arctic violet]

thanks👍

[radiant ridge]

hmm

EAC update next patch

[quaint karma]

earlier there was a guy that walked into cover every time he was ab out to die

and then started jigglepeeking

one time he climbed to height and headglitched

[twilit flicker]

ye its so annoying

[raven hull]

can't wait for it to do nothing because EAC is ass

sees someone fire all bullets in a kraber mag in a single shot... seems about right.

EAC moment

[radiant ridge]

switching to EOS version, which seems to be the more modern approach for games

[raven hull]

oh wait so its a full on change not just some measly updates?

Where did you find this, id be interested to take a look

[radiant ridge]

no clue without lookig under the hood

[radiant ridge]

ag420, probably found it while datamining

[raven hull]

the leaker of the alter gameplay

lol

what a goated name

[radiant ridge]

what little i know about EOS is that it's effectively the same as the commercial version of EAC while being free, but used to get updates far more frequently

just depends on what all they're customizing with it or additional protection they're paying for

[raven hull]

i really hope they take it seriously and try to nuke the cheaters

its actually pain to play ranked

die to a team only to spectate and see they have walls

[radiant ridge]

maybe they'll go the fortnite approach and just randomly pick battleye or eac

either way, EOS version seems to be far more aggressive and faster with bans

[tight falcon]

why is my 2/3x aim so trash but not my 1x

[quaint karma]

why is the free version better?

idgi

[radiant ridge]

because it introduces their middleware to send stuff directly to Epic

i seriously doubt they're using a fully free version of it

imo Epic has done a few anticheat acquisitions, probably own one of the largest datasets for anticheat development since it's across so many titles

that's a detail i didn't hear about XSET...
"They're no longer interested in facilitating esports as a whole, they don't think it's profitable"

[young pine]

esports really isn't profitable

[radiant ridge]

never really has been, surprised that it's lasted this long

VC/advertiser money poured in like crazy for years

and nobody is really making any kind of money back on those investments

[young pine]

alot of these orgs jumped straight into paying pro rosters before they were successful. esports should be the final step for gaming orgs

[radiant ridge]

seems like a lot of them are turning more into nothing brands. "lifestyle" seems generous, but it's mostly signing content creators

being a pro in Apex is trash too, almost no money in it unless you're pulling double duty and being one of the popular content pros

[young pine]

I dont know how any orgs are still in pro league

it makes 0 sense

[radiant ridge]

if you're outside of the top 8 and aren't a massive multi-gaming org, there's probably no reason to be in the scene

[little verge]

Doesn't help that big investors just tried making it sports level without realizing the infrastructure doesn't fucking exist and there aren't enough tournaments to support it. Honestly baffling no one looked to DotA 2's compendium and tournaments.

We're already knee deep into battlepasses as a norm, so having one for a tournament scene specifically allows you to gauge player interest, fund prize pools, and get involved and yet no one thought to copy that idea.

Trying to turn shit into the NFL without having anything that makes it NFL was just daft.

[bright elm]

y'all just hating just to hate

[frail kiln]

for anyone who likes to watch ALGS I found a script to get around Faceit pausing the stream when you leave the page

if you run this with TamperMonkey or GreaseMonkey, you can leave the stream running in the background without it pausing

// ==UserScript==
// @name          Always on focus
// @namespace     http://www.webmonkey.com
// @description   Some pages check the document.hidden property and won't render content unless the page is in focus. This script will trick them to think they are in focus so you can preload them in a tab and visit them when they have finished loading.
// ==/UserScript==

Object.defineProperty(document, "hidden", { value : false});

[young pine]

isn't faceit the csgo thing?

[twilit flicker]

no

its for other games too

[frail kiln]

mostly CS ye

[radiant ridge]

damn Mirage decoys are so strong you can get one queued with you in ranked

[bright elm]

LMAO

[little verge]

Also yes

[arctic violet]

no more shit frankfurt server? no way

[bright elm]

what happened

[arctic violet]

just hopped in and can't see frankfurt servers no more

only belgium 1/2/3 with good ping

[wintry cypress]

Bro i live closer to amsterdam than belgium but belgium always has better ping

Lol

[wintry cypress]

https://twitter.com/alphaINTEL/status/1785687154707824718?t=1wvhduHyIWi1PDKaZoS_3g&s=19

Apex Legends News (@alphaINTEL) on X

🚨 Solos coming to Apex Legends 🚨

Twitter · May 1, 2024, 3:06 PM

YOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOO

[devout widget]

Peak

[wintry cypress]

IT ONLY TOOK THEM 5 YEARS

[devout widget]

This is peak

I have just passed away from the realisation that apex listened

[wintry cypress]

Literally

Apex actually putting some thought into community opinion

Why did it take them this fucking long to make actual decent changes to the game

3 strikes, the quick gamemode

This

Reverting ranked

S4 flatty recolor

[torn estuary]

apex is so back bro

[ocean flame]

Its so funny when respawn confidently states they will never do something

And then of course they end up doing it anyway

Never gets old

[torn estuary]

real

tbf they are a business so if doing something they said they wouldn’t makes them $$ then it does kinda make sense why they would

[twilit flicker]

yall say this every season

its not gonna be any better lets be honest

[torn estuary]

i love coping

if i believe it might get better eventually it might

[twilit flicker]

no one has ever gotten banned

but use an alt just to be safe

[young pine]

sadly it doesn't matter what they do there's still gonna be crazy SBMM and .4 AA and aim punch

[twilit flicker]

true

[young pine]

we can pretend tho

[wintry cypress]

It kinda is huh

[wintry cypress]

Sbmm isnt too bad in 3 strikes

And honestly i dont care much as long as they keep 3 strikes cause that shit is peak

[young pine]

you can find a 3 strikes lobby??

[wintry cypress]

Yeah? 😂

[young pine]

enjoy it man. that shit is dead on US west servers

I gotta play like 100 ping if I wanna play 3 strikes

[wintry cypress]

Bruh

[quaint karma]

100 ping isnt noticeable

on this game

[torn estuary]

[quaint karma]

i get 50 to 90 on my own servers

lol

[wintry cypress]

I can play like every mode no problem, only mixtape has longer wait time

[young pine]

it is for me. dying behind doors and shit

[wintry cypress]

I die behind doors on 10-20 ping

Lol

I should say walls actually

Not really doors

[young pine]

my closest server I avg ~50

[wintry cypress]

True i get like 100 ping to east coast and in terms of hitreg you dont notice it at all, but dying behind walls is defo more noticable

[young pine]

yeah it's doable if I really wanna play apex

but sometimes I cba

[arctic violet]

devo in care package I'm scared

[young pine]

ground loot winger tho

[arctic violet]

W

[quaint karma]

i wonder if theyre damage nerfing it?

it wasnt included in the leak

but i assume so

[young pine]

it's 45 body

[quaint karma]

where do you have that from

[young pine]

saw a video

[quaint karma]

leak i saw didnt mention anything other than mag being removed + no skullpiercer in game anymore

[young pine]

of the leak

[quaint karma]

oh nice

[little verge]

As long as I don't have to face console players teaming in it, I'm good.

[quaint karma]

PSA: console players get higher AA than .4 even on 120fps mode

[little verge]

No awful teammates weighing you down + no three stacks incapable of taking their ones making Navy Seal Six comms

[young pine]

so they lied 😂

[quaint karma]

no they just said theyre reducing it

pretty sure no number was mentioned

[young pine]

that's crazy

[quaint karma]

i wonder what the excuse for them not having .4 is

like oh they only get 110fps

pc players all get 240!!!!!!!!!

[young pine]

probably because console iq is substantially lower

probably

idk

[quaint karma]

maybe theyre like

'majority of console players play on tvs'

but even then, any tv that can do 120hz

should have like no input lag anyways

[frail kiln]

Nosh would you ever consider using console kek

[quaint karma]

yeah for gta 6

and stellar blade

ong frfr

[frail kiln]

how bad is the performance mode

[quaint karma]

maybe easy pred bad on console tbh

[frail kiln]

like for extra aim assist 🫣

[quaint karma]

idk i assume its like .5

and

i mean 110fps is playable

from what i see they get between 100 and 120

seems to be more like 110 mostly

[young pine]

I can't even get stable 120 on my toaster of a pc

[quaint karma]

i woulda got a ps5 pro for gta 6 until i found out theyre not upgrading the CPU so the game will run at like 30 fps on it

[ocean flame]

Source?

[quaint karma]

wouldve used that to play apex sometimes maybe

just for fun

[quaint karma]

testing

[ocean flame]

What sort of testing

[quaint karma]

also in ALCs on console theres apparently still a toggle for PC mode

[ocean flame]

Get a mnk player on the scene

[quaint karma]

even on 120hz

i mean fps

[ocean flame]

Dont trust the console players

[quaint karma]

well the guy i know who said that to me is an mnk player

plus we talked about it in this channel the other day

[ocean flame]

Yeah

[quaint karma]

and there are some other people saying it too

[ocean flame]

I doubt it tho

Console players were complaining abt not having enough aa on 120 fps

[quaint karma]

dude theres console players who believe their AA randomly turns off

[ocean flame]

Granted they dont know right from left

[quaint karma]

mid fight

[ocean flame]

Haha

[quaint karma]

theres a whole thread on the EA forums

with bug reports

and they include videos

and the funny part is you can literally just see them being horrible

one of the posts is a respawn employee explaining how AA works

💀

theres a kid on youtube who comments under a bunch of videos how his AA randomly turns off

thats how i found that thread

[young pine]

console players were upset that they werent getting 120hz with max video settings

[quaint karma]

i dont get why the game doesnt just let you choose settings

im sure a bunch of people would choose to play all low on console

but youre forced to run pretty high settings

[young pine]

I can't advocate for anything on console until they're on. 4

or I can turn crossplay off

[ocean flame]

Controller players would play on high settings anyway

So funny seeing clips of snipedown in algs with max graphics

Hahahahaha

[true ravine]

i think theres a command in autoexec that u can turn it off

but u cant stack with anyone

just solo

[young pine]

whaat where can I get it?

[true ravine]

i think its CrossPlay_user_optin "0"

idk if it still working

but i used it a lot to play pubs

[true ravine]

https://twitter.com/i/status/1785768951806366142 everything is leaked lmao

chinaman (@chinamanlive420) on X

walking around broken moon pois (@autismgaming420)

Twitter · May 1, 2024, 8:31 PM

[woeful garnet]

how do you play this game on mnk

my controller finally broke and im forced to play mouse

i seriously dont understand how people put up with this

[wintry cypress]

AUTISMGAMING DOES IT AGAIN

MY GOAT

yo

winger out of CP

rejoice

NO MAGS ⁉️

FOR WINGMAN

nah wtf

thats dirty

[golden sphinx]

bruh

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=Xhy_lxeT2QE

shit looks broken lol

[golden sphinx]

this hurt fr when i saw it

i have been waiting for wingman to come out of cp for so long and it gets a massive nerf

😭

u gonna have to use boosted loader on it now 100%

[true ravine]

but it has hop up again

so

not so bad

[wintry cypress]

yeah

[true ravine]

move your whole arm

[wintry cypress]

i mean im still gonna pick it up

cause wingman

but its annoying lol

[true ravine]

lmao

im only picking it if they nerf the burst weapons

shit is OP

[young pine]

they don't need nerfed everything else needs buffed

[golden sphinx]

oof

finally happening

[wind forge]

apec legging

[golden sphinx]

50 shards is apparently $40

[true ravine]

40$ for a skin that u paid 10 in the past

thanks respawn 🙏

[torn estuary]

THE GOATTTTTT

[torn estuary]

not me about to drop $85 to get 110 shards to have both

even though i got this seasons flatline recolor

[mental ridge]

and alot of hours lol

[young pine]

i'm really happy with the purple recolor

that r9 is beautiful tho

[fathom fiber]

I am suing those bastardss

I need a karen to help me

I guess this my good bye apex

DIE

I hope EA goes bankrupt

[devout tusk]

Happened to my friend a few years ago and he got randomly unbanned 3 months later

[mental ridge]

did he get a email

[half salmon]

i buy my shards from a third party source

so it only costs like 20$ max

still outrageous pricing

[mental ridge]

send link

[raven hull]

damn that r9 is a shop one, not the season challenges

that sucks

[devout tusk]

he got that same response i remember, idk about anything else

[raven hull]

I can tell you recently came from Valo lol

[half salmon]

apex anti cheat update next season

https://media.discordapp.net/attachments/1091234394871713852/1155401898044694608/ezgif.com-gif-maker_3.gif

[visual bluff]

confirmed anti cheat update next season?
i really hope so they really need it
just got killed by a top 200 pred that's hard aim cheating
dude has played tons of games this season no idea how hes not banned

[raven hull]

Yeah it really is like that

got killed by 2 wallers and spectated them the rest of the game, last 4 teams where all cheaters

it was the most stupid shit ive ever watched

dude was lv 117 and rank 173 pred

like how is that not super suspicious

[visual bluff]

the guy who killed me had the cheat where his bullets always land even if hes not aiming at them

[raven hull]

magic bullets

cringe ah

[visual bluff]

i have a clip of idk if i should manually report him or if it doesnt matter anyway
the clip is 100% proof unless theres some sort of cam bug that i dont know about

[raven hull]

what i dont get is how THE MOST blatant wallers are still top 100 pred

like the other guy on the lv 117s team was adsing following people through walls

like ????

and pinged a corner a guy was 1 second away from peaking

he wasnt even trying to be subtle

[gritty kayak]

i might be late to the party but i just learned how to remap the interact bind so i can rez on doors without opening them / loot boxes without opening doors etc. enjoy this info if ur as clueless as me

[mental ridge]

i feel like it wont do shit

maybe for a week

[half salmon]

confirmed by ag420

hes quite literally the most trusted source out there

[visual bluff]

huge if the anti cheat is good
its so bad rn at high ranks

[raven hull]

i really hope its a significant change to anticheat, and not some band aid fix that will last a week tops

[true ravine]

dont expect anything big, hideouts is making music 😎

until platinum

you almost dont see them

unless theyre boosting someone

at diamond/master

is full of cheaters

[raven hull]

Bros busy cooking up a beat instead of cooking up some anti cheat

[true ravine]

i heard that his next feat will be destroyer2009

the song will be fire

🙏

imagine if destroyer hacks the tournament today

lmao

[mental ridge]

i heard something about him not going to hack anymore due to reasons i forgot

[main merlin]

Unless you are in plat plus lobbies or SEA servers it's not bad

[raven hull]

He lost access to the servers via the method he had before. So it was likely a comprimised machine and he was just using it for remote access. He could still open cheat menus on machines hes personally infected the same way he did it with Hal and Gen

but yeah its really unlikely he will do anything now

He said he was doing it for fun and to bring attention to the vulnerability respawn had in their system

[mental ridge]

i mean if he wanted to profit he would have either sold it quietly or abused it himself in a malicious way

[raven hull]

if he was using a compromised machine "selling" the method isnt an option

[raven hull]

i mean he kind of already did, giving streams $1000's worth of packs. And probably did it to his friends as well.

[mental ridge]

yeah no

he didnt gain any money from that

[raven hull]

"or abused it himself in a malicious way"

this you?

[mental ridge]

he had acces to everybody's pc that can generate alot of money by stealing data or using trojans

[mental ridge]

he didnt harm anybody with it

[raven hull]

i get what you are saying but stealing $1000's worth of packs is still malicious

just not to end users

its malicious to the company

[twilit flicker]

thats good

fuck ea

[raven hull]

Im not sure he ever did, it looks more likely that he got Hal and Gen infected, either via phishing or some software on their pc that had a vuln. If he had access to everyones pc's he would have used the cheat menu on everyone in that ALGS game as it would have been the biggest bit of clout he could manage

and he said so himself he only did it for clout

[twilit flicker]

he didnt have access to everyones pc bruh

do you not realise how big of a legal issue that would be

[raven hull]

exactly, respawn and Ea would have been in some serious shit if that was the case

[twilit flicker]

game would be gone and big investigations would have immediatly started

[raven hull]

he definitely had access to one or more servers, as he was giving packs to people without having them added, and was supposedly able to open packs on people accounts. as well as manipulating lobbies to be him + streamers and his bots.

all server side stuff

hopefully its a wake up call for them tho, to take cheating more seriously. After so much negative exposure.

but knowing them that will last a week into next season and they will give up

which is a shame next season looks decent so far. Im already a broken moon enjoyer and the new rework looks ever better

[young pine]

it happens everywhere. but in high ranks you see them every other game

a cheater got banned as he was shooting at me in a pub. must of had free cheats or somethin

surely they fix it

[mental ridge]

as soon as they adress visual clutter audio and aimassist

ngl a mate lately told me about the start up command that remove splashing blood hit effects and replaces it with the solution they have in the Japanese apex

+cl_is_softened_locale 1

[true ravine]

gonna test it

[mental ridge]

if it works buy me battlepass

[bright elm]

yeah

it works

helps a decent amount

[mental ridge]

yeah i like it

should be a ingame option

[young pine]

i have this. very cool

if I could change 1 thing about the game right now it would be aim punch

its so absurd for no reason

[bright elm]

i would change a lot of things regarding visual cluttetr

lol

other than the degenerate mil sim gamers who for some reason wants to keep apex "realistic" with the amount of visual clutter

i think everyone wants most of the visual clutter gone

[young pine]

most of the player base isnt bothered by visual clutter or even notice

cause that shit doesnt matter on the sticks

[mental ridge]

it does a bit

but most too shit to notice since aimassist is doing the fine adjustemnts not them

[twilit flicker]

casuals want good graphics

they dont care about clarity

[young pine]

even the smallest shit could help

like outlines would be so huge

[twilit flicker]

ye

[mental ridge]

play maggie

[young pine]

yeah maggie is cool

i dont really use shotguns tho

[mental ridge]

play pasu

[sharp ice]

yo did they change sliding or am i washed

[quaint karma]

washed

[sharp ice]

tf

are they adding eve from league to apex

[wet stratus]

HAHAHAHA

THIS GAME

IS SO DOGSHIT

[young pine]

l0l

gnaske is farming tho

[wet stratus]

I AM SO GLAD

THAT HAPPENED

FUCK RESPAWN

[young pine]

l00l

[wet stratus]

but yeah gnaske went crazy

[frail kiln]

gnaske jumping out of chair is so incredibly in character lmfao

[young pine]

TSM consistently starts slow but they always bring it back

that's so interesting to me

[wintry cypress]

They just need time to lock in

[mental ridge]

what do u experience ?

[sharp ice]

i feel like the distance on first or second step is way less

as well as crouch slide jumping

i may have just gotten used to faster games like ghostrunner

[wet stratus]

is NA washed?

[mental ridge]

wym step

[sharp ice]

well

yk that u slidejump the full distance and speed after 3 char steps

[mental ridge]

they changed step speed on chonky chars

[sharp ice]

oh that makes sense

[mental ridge]

coz chonkers felt slower

[sharp ice]

thank god im still mostly on wraith

[mental ridge]

despite beeing as fast

[radiant ridge]

WMNDY kinda crushing it rn

[uncut bison]

watching on faceit and the map pov is like a minute behind the player povs

this is so ass

LMAO

nvm its like 2min behind holy

[wet stratus]

yeah i just gave on that shit and watch nicewigg now

[uncut bison]

the delay would be fine if the website didnt operate in 4 fps

[woeful garnet]

anyone know any good mnk pros to watch

[ocean flame]

Extesyy

[frail kiln]

Zer0 the goat fr

[woeful garnet]

Good pick

[toxic magnet]

Vurhulst best MnK pro to ever do it

[wet stratus]

why is oce just so much better?

[frail kiln]

Sikezz and Xynew been carrying these two bums

[proven pecan]

can we fix the lag on voltaics R5 servers already

[wet stratus]

what abt serenity and virtus pro?

[frail kiln]

sharky is so good 🥺

[wet stratus]

fr

hop in @rotund fox oce on top

[cunning crane]

If any apex legends devs look into this chat please remove skill based MM in ranked

ranked IS the skill based mm

[wet stratus]

CRAZY take lmfao

[cunning crane]

What's the point in ranked badges if there's just hidden MMR?

getting to masters is empty, no achievement other than you had enough time off work to grind it

all you did was play with people of your skill level

there's no point in hidden skill based MM if there's ranked and there's no point in ranked if there's already skill based MM elo

[ocean flame]

Theres no skill based mmr lol

[radiant ridge]

hidden mmr was removed

went back to RP

[wet stratus]

how gifted are both of cr's wins

[rotund fox]

sorry i was asleep 🥀

[glossy gull]

i need help guys i have to gift the valk skin

:c

someone doesnt recive that skin?

[young pine]

i actually want that too

[radiant ridge]

zer0 actually says "we need to protect slayr tonight" in the lobby chat

💀

[lapis moat]

https://x.com/crust_ow/status/1786273235274699124?s=46&t=YgEf-6HRatFp33CnDRgSzA

crust (@crust_ow) on X

@sweetdreams #LGWIN

Twitter · May 3, 2024, 5:55 AM

goat came back to hate

that’s my goat

[visual bluff]

lmao

poor slayr

[raven hull]

What are you yapping about, they removed hidden MMR at the start of S20, ranked is now based on RP value

[cunning crane]

oh ok nice

[wet stratus]

should watch algs playoffs w me
this is oces year trust

vp looks so good too

so does serenity

not just dz

[radiant ridge]

"as a player with 5000 hours in apex, i can assure you aim assist isn't broken"

checks stats

oh he's plat 4 and peaked at diamond

glad he's the subject matter expert on game balance

[mental ridge]

yeah sure everbody saying that aimassist aint op either never figured out how to use a controller or mnk...

like one gotta have a realy onesided view on the matter to think aimassist aint op

[twilit flicker]

aim assist is op

but people act like its instant aimbot

average roller is carried by aim assist you can beat them with good dodge

but top tier rollers that actually grind their mechanics are unbeatable

[mental ridge]

its partial aimbot

40%-60% of inputs supressed and replaced by it

[young pine]

aim assist is aim bot its just a nicer term for it at this point. aim assist pre fortnite was just aim assist

[vast oak]

https://tenor.com/view/imperialhal-apex-controller-gif-16143536460966397014

[wintry cypress]

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=JK2p-vZNfPA

1m30 bois

get ready

[mental ridge]

incase your confused about who u match
ranked lobbies are now made up gold 2 to plat 3 players and so on
dia 2 1 master and pred are 1 lobby and if the matchmaking is empty they fill up with the plat2 to dia 3 players

[mental ridge]

my s21 is already halfway ruined since they hard nerfed the wingman

[wintry cypress]

at least we have ground loot wingman

[mental ridge]

6 bullets and if were lucky we get a hop up for faster realoads anf effectively 1 more bullet to shoot

unless boosted loader loads up to 9 or 10 bullets its kinda useless and cant compensate the mag removal

[wintry cypress]

just hit more shots

[bright elm]

6 bullets + its going back to post nerf dmg

[light rapids]

Isn't it concerning that you have to learn good dodge to win against avg roller cuz you can't consistently outaim them?

[bright elm]

by outaim u mean walk in a straight line and kill them?

no its not concerning to learn good dodge

it should be something u need to learn if u want to become better mechanically in any tracking game

doesn't change the fact that AA is broken

but still

it sucks for the average mnk player

[light rapids]

[light rapids]

Exactly
People pretend like aim assist is only a problem for higher skilled players

When it's really not

[bright elm]

it isnt lol

[light rapids]

It's unfair regardless of your skill level

[bright elm]

all the mnk casuals complain about AA

even my friends do

ans they fucking play league of legends

[light rapids]

Well that's exactly the point I'm trying to make
As a casual you should not be expected to learn dodging just so you can compete against other casuals that happen to have training wheels
I was not trying to say that learning dodge is useless

[bright elm]

mb

[mental ridge]

i mean id agrue that controller is easier to pick up if u come from mnk than mnk if u come from roller
mnk might be more intuitive but u aint got aimassist
on roller all u gotta do is get used to all the restrictions and play the real time strategy game version of apex

[light rapids]

Cuz like strafe theory is (at least in my experience) something you find out about somewhat late in your improvement arc

[ocean flame]

It is

my favorite thing is picking up the roller and abusing smoothness kovaaks scenarios

u can actually easily get literal top scores with the controller smoothness in kovaaks

[bright elm]

what happened to my CEO

😭

[edgy crane]

the script is different this lan

[mental ridge]

i cant tell if youre trolling or not