apex

[frail kiln]

look at Zer0 ❤️

my goat is kill leader

I just think it would be funny

[lilac onyx]

real talk if destroyer felt the need to drop 4k apex packs into every persons account i would NOT complain

[wet skiff]

Go for broke, everyone loses aim assist. Let's see how it goes

[spice jungle]

hmm to hop on apex rn or nah

[mental ridge]

skill issue

[lilac onyx]

anyone tryna play some plat ranked

[raven hull]

that wasnt the only thing that led him to that conclusion tho. He brings up what Mande tells him about Destoryer gifting packs, opening packs on peoples accounts, shutting down sessions when he feels like it. Those were what led Piratesoftware to say its likely destoryer has some level of server side access, likely via a compromised machine.

[golden sphinx]

my fav thing with these legend specific challenges

is that it makes people want to quit if they dont get the champ

and there are also so many other people trying to do the challenges

heckin fun

[lusty elk]

I missed that last bit of the stream. That's interesting.

[mental ridge]

whats the point of solo qurueing apex its hell anyways

i mean pubstomp sweat 3 stacking is bs aswell

but discord randos atleast dont leave on knock

[lusty elk]

Would make sense. Destroyer also said to Mande he lost access to some stuff during his "interview". I forgot if it was to gift apex pack or something else.

[raven hull]

yeah i remember that, he said he cant log into mandes account to open packs anymore

i think iirc he said he was able to to do upuntil about a week prior to when he spoke to mande

[lusty elk]

Mm, interesting. Maybe it had something to do with that compromised machine, since that was after his very public pack gifting and botting stream?

All speculation

[raven hull]

yeah we have no way to confirm it, so its all speculation but id imagine after respawn saw the pack gifting they went into damage control mode, only issue is if destroyer knows what hes doing he can just hide any audit logs of what hes been doing. Making it hard for them to even track him in their own system

assuming they have that level of audit logging

which they may not

[lusty elk]

I assume he lost access after respawn probably changed security of every system in a panic, but if he's that good maybe he left himself a backdoor and still has access somehow

Hopefully, nothing too malicious comes out of this then

[raven hull]

i mean the first thing id do if i got access would be make a dummy account that looks legit

and use that instead of the compromised account

then again im also am not a hacker so who knows what they are doing.

can only speculate

[lusty elk]

Yeah can't give any solid take either I have no idea how their internal systems are setup lol

Can only watch and see what respawn does

Understaffed security team probably haven't slept in awhile

[bright elm]

i only solo q

[bright elm]

im guilty of this

i finished them so im good

[golden sphinx]

thats 2 things i hope they stop

legend specific challenges

and the worst one

takeover events

just make it its own mode

its cool when its a fun takeover but when u get a bad one its horrible

[lusty elk]

I like sword event for like, 2 days

It was way too long

[mental ridge]

why whats the point ?

[bright elm]

i just play

[golden sphinx]

sword was fun when u had it it and horrible when you didnt lol

[bright elm]

because game is fun

[lusty elk]

Strongest mental ever king

[mental ridge]

imo solo queue is no fun coz team play is heavily limited

[bright elm]

i won like 10 in a row yesterday solo queuing

[bright elm]

it is pubs

[lusty elk]

Ok, not strongest mental, just cracked I guess

Lmfao

[bright elm]

mental only strong fir like

6 hours

then i mental boom

[mental ridge]

idk sbmm doesn't love me anymore i get teammates that forget nofill exists like i dont play pubs with fill just to 1v3 anyways

[bright elm]

happens

i had a wraith yesterday that left before they died

like they were 1 hp

and just alt f4'd before getting knocked

it was so fast

LOL

:p

[spice jungle]

@bright elm do u record 60fps 1080p at least?

[bright elm]

1080p

120fps

[spice jungle]

should lemme edit you a tage, if u have the raw clips on a google drive, or can upload them uncompressed/unedited. only reason i ask is cause i edit, and am bored and need something to make :p nice rsmb? or smoothie settings, guessing rsmb tho

[bright elm]

rsmb

[spice jungle]

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=OL5yVHiuBfE last montage for refrence i did for someone, altho heavily overedit as requested

[bright elm]

also yea im down after im done w/ this one

[spice jungle]

looks cleann

[bright elm]

sick edits btw

albeit im not the one to like heavy edits for apex

imo it takes away the awe of just watching good clips

how long have u bneen

editing for

[spice jungle]

yeah i prefer clean stuff, for 120 esp. https://streamable.com/skhy8y and a good two years or so, off and on

but yeah hmu for an edit as long as the clips are the raw clips and uncompressed, im hella down. esp with a good player like urself, be hella sick

[mental ridge]

@spice jungle https://media.discordapp.net/attachments/1174237600505139240/1218037760292687992/looool_-_Trim.mp4?ex=66063510&is=65f3c010&hm=6599dd6c211e5f499e32a25bca887c12d3d2ee6c74a30ef8cbfd0bc55a1359f9&

is that uncompressed

[bright elm]

is this using lossless

cut

[mental ridge]

wait recording wise?

i domt think so

[bright elm]

oh nah

a lot of people use lossless cut

[sonic marlin]

Is that a child or a UwU girl I can't fucking tell

[bright elm]

just so they can trim without having to render it and lose quality

[mental ridge]

its neither

its judt adult with a high pitched voice

[sonic marlin]

It's a UwU girl

[bright elm]

is it just me

or did that valk

just had no ammo

or smth

[mental ridge]

idk

[bright elm]

but nice 3k

[mental ridge]

i got lucky

[bright elm]

they barely hit you

[mental ridge]

i could have ended up with a 4k 20b if i didnt mess up and needed to kill the last enemie

[bright elm]

yeah my sbmm doesn't allow for a 4k 20

unless i hot drop, somehow get competent weapons

and loot for a maximum of 1 minute

for the entire game

everyone dies within the first 2 minutes of the game

so i basically have to sweat my balls off and im just tryna chill

[mental ridge]

was the first time sbmm ever felt like it since im on mnk

yeah i feel like to get a 20b more often one has to tactically thirst and let them respawn

[spice jungle]

Now that it's uploaded to discord, if I were to dl it it'd be compressed by discords algorithm. Only uncompressed methods are losslesscut for clipping as mentioned. And possibly handbrake Timestamping with lossless quality loss. what I mean by uncompressed too, is when I sync with Twixtor or timeremap, if it's compressed, it can cause warp from uneven or blended frames due to compression

Why I usually recommend people upload the raw clip or file to Google drive which is lossless uploading

[mental ridge]

do such files need to be recorded specially

[spice jungle]

Nah can be recorded with any program. Just say you do record it in 60fps 1080p or whatever. Don't use after effects or premier pro or anything to trim it, or built in media player from windows to trim the clip to the highlighted action to make the file smaller, aka compress it

[mental ridge]

so basically im just not supposed to touch the raw file

does the win 11 video trimmer actually compress it basically does nothing to the size it feels like

[spice jungle]

Yeah, either upload the full clip, whether two minutes or five minutes and have the editor deal with trimming it, quality over anything else in my eyes. Or trim it with a program called lossless cut, which is a zero compression tool for trimming clips

Yeah windows media player, the blue and orange ones both compress it, look at the videos bit rate from before and after

[mental ridge]

i record 20 min clips so i canjust press save after a game of apex

[bright elm]

holy shit

what do you use to record

[spice jungle]

Lol should just do five minutes, think it's like 2? Gigs a clip at max settings GeForce experience, or if obs, set the replay option to 3gigs max, and record after a fight and fully healed. But if you do it that way, I'd go the lossless cut route. It's a fairly easy program to use, start and end and trim

[mental ridge]

ahahahah gfroce experience at the lowest bitrate native resolution and 60 fps

[bright elm]

have u tried obs

or nah

[mental ridge]

nope

[bright elm]

u should

[spice jungle]

Oof can you not post streamables in here?

[bright elm]

with the right settings, ur clips should take up less storage

and you can press a button to clip like 1 minute

[mental ridge]

how heavy is the effect on the system

like latancy wise etc

[bright elm]

literally like

negligible

i don't notice anything in apex

[spice jungle]

It's same as GeForce since it's reply, I honestly found it better

Or less taxing

[mental ridge]

because i used other apps b4 like medal or some overwolf thingo and it felt realy bad latency wise

[bright elm]

mind you

i record at 1080p 120fps

only uses like

2% of my cpu

[mental ridge]

i would record at 1440p i guess

and i could try 240fps

i just need some 8gb ssd

anywhere a good review how to set up obs

[spice jungle]

I have a 3700x and record at the same, on max settings except for bframes I leave at 0 then 2, and it uses 2 or 3 percent of my cpu. 60fps at max settings is legit like none

Do you have a good cpu or bad? I can give you a ss of best of the best settings, middle ground, or bad PC settings up to you

[mental ridge]

i got a r7 5800x3d with 64gb of ddr5 6000mhz

and a 3080

[spice jungle]

Oh brother tf I'm sending you the best then

[bright elm]

yea with those specs

obs should not do anything

at all

for in game feel

[mental ridge]

can i set obs to autostart and auto record at all times

[bright elm]

checking rn and no u can't

well

the auto record one

im pretty sure you're able to just set obs to start on start up

via windows

[mental ridge]

no i mean auto clipping

[bright elm]

ah

[spice jungle]

thats all u need. check that u enable replay buffer and set up hot keys

[bright elm]

nah

you need to hit a key

for obs to clip stuff

via replay buffer

i use the ~ key

for clipping

[mental ridge]

should i save clips on a different ssd or on the same

on gforce i currently save and have the temp files on a different ssd idkif thats even necessary

[spice jungle]

i have them save on ssd, after session, i do my trimming with lossless cut and save that to d drive, and then delete excess

brb but kirstian should be able to help ya if theres any questions u had

[mental ridge]

do u record just the entire session or do u clip

[spice jungle]

clip 300 seconds

aka 5 minutes i think? idk but yeah

[bright elm]

i clip 90 seconds

my settings already make my clips pretty big at 1 minute

like 400-500 mb

[spice jungle]

also kristian, what u think of my first bench? week and a half of doing serious routines, hopefully can make it to gold soon enough

[bright elm]

pretty good

that's about what the average player

would start off at

silver/gold

[spice jungle]

i sadly thought id alr be at gold

but meh, il get there in a day or two be my guess, never done any of these scenarios before tbf

[mental ridge]

i wish i could just clip my entire session and then send it all to a cutter and they make content

i feel like 90% of the time i dont notice when i did something clippable

[spice jungle]

i used to do that for ottr

i got paid to do it tho

[arctic violet]

any target switch nerd? i posted on vodreview 🙏

[mental ridge]

i wish i was good at apex then i could just pay u in youtube revenue of the chanel u manage for me

[spice jungle]

thats what we were doing, but his second channel wasnt making enough lol

[mental ridge]

did he get any cut of it

@spice jungle couldnt u just create a highlights chanel where u source clips from many players and do awesome montages and all they get is free advertisement unless their video makes a certain ammount of money

[spice jungle]

possibly, copyright music and stuff is a pain tho

[wintry cypress]

Not that youre gonna be making any money off them anyway

You need like

5k subs or something?

Before u can turn on adsense or whatever on yt

And make literal cents

But yeah, you could make those videos if you want to

Just as passion project/for fun

Oh wait its for a content creator

Nvm ignore what i said

[dire abyss]

Does anyone actually solo q in apex

[spice jungle]

i do, gets boring tho

[wintry cypress]

Yes with randos

I could play solo duos but dont feel like it tbh

[bright elm]

me

[spice jungle]

yeah ottr was pree big in the apex community especially. was pulling in that $$

[spice jungle]

@bright elm do u think its worth building a whole new habit for mouse tension, as well as being able to shoot and movement at the same time? as in rmb to shoot, lmb to aim

just going to take a while to break old habit of lmb fire

[bright elm]

no

i can promise you it will not make a difference (the rmb to fire and lmb to shoot)

as for mouse tension, it's only an issue if you find yourself overtensing

you'll know if you overtense if ur wrist/hand starts to hurt while tracking someone

(again, it's normal to have some form of tension as all of us exert different amounts of tension)

[spice jungle]

i just need it to be able to neo and shoot, i cant with lmb fire

https://streamable.com/abfz3s can finally neo now lol

[bright elm]

just use your middle finger

on the scroll wheel

if u want to neo and shoot

[spice jungle]

lil janky, but see how far my middle is off to the right cause of my grip? i would but cant do that either

[bright elm]

mm

idk then

try it out

but i personally wouldn't go through the pain

[spice jungle]

i guess, how long does it take to break a life long habit lol

[bright elm]

of adjusting to rmb = fire and lmb = aim

[spice jungle]

@mental ridge u on?

[mental ridge]

yeah no im watching a movie with my anime voice girl

[mental ridge]

just play 1 3 1 trust me

[spice jungle]

i cannot get used to that or i would lol

[spice jungle]

LMAO have fun

[mental ridge]

how long did u try

[spice jungle]

week and a half

off and on

id rage and switch back

[mental ridge]

stick to it

do u claw or ftip

[spice jungle]

ftip

[dire abyss]

R apex servers fucked rn?

[green kraken]

some servers are down yeah

[ornate gorge]

going thru that pain just to neo and shoot is crazy

[bright elm]

^^

just be better at strafing

than the other player

an u win

ez

[green kraken]

Not really

[ornate gorge]

good game sense u win

ez

[green kraken]

Aim is more important than movement in this game

[ornate gorge]

that too

[green kraken]

Look at how roller dominates all competitive scenes rn

[warped lake]

that's why i play roller now

[ornate gorge]

dont say that

[green kraken]

But it's reality

Roller will always be 10% more accurate then mnk

When I've played roller in the past I was able to just int everything and turn off my brain

[ornate gorge]

talking abt him going to the dark side

a sad sight

[green kraken]

Ah

Yeah

In my eyes the way roller support should be like in gaming is the way tf2 does it

Where the only way that shit is even playable is through gyro

[mental ridge]

try claw 1 3 1

[green kraken]

Yeah 1 3 1 is the best grip for movement in apex legends

Your aim will feel like dogshit but the movement is so much smoother

[mental ridge]

what did u initially want from me why did u ping me

[mental ridge]

idk if u never played 1 2 2 u cant tell

but 1 3 1 true ftip is mental

[green kraken]

I think lyrics grip is prob the best for aiming

I forgot what it was

[ornate gorge]

js hand ur mouse

hold*

[quaint karma]

whos the owner of r5 server?

voltaic

[mental ridge]

wich one

there are multiple servers with different owners

[mental ridge]

@mortal hatch arent u owner of one of them

[spice jungle]

see if u were online and wanted to play, also f this, im just sticking with my grip lol

[mental ridge]

maybe later after i slept

[bright elm]

roller dominates competitive scene because its easier to be consistent with AA

so they can just stick with focusing on other things

[bright elm]

like being able to strafe isn't apart of having good aim lol..

[mental ridge]

were talking about lurchstrafing

[bright elm]

[green kraken]

roller players can't strafe lol

[bright elm]

yeah and rollers can only aim at ad spamming

[green kraken]

yes exactly

[bright elm]

yeah so literally just have good strafes and u beat the majority of rollers

also the amount of times i've circled around

a roller player

[green kraken]

not really if aimbot can track anywayhs

[bright elm]

its so funny seeing them try to look at you as u circle around them

[bright elm]

ok

u can also track too

btw

:)

[spice jungle]

https://streamable.com/yf4enp when you out roller the roller, while trollin a lil 😄

[spice jungle]

roller players literally can tho

[rotund rivet]

ew a roller

[spice jungle]

ikr

[spice jungle]

@green kraken https://streamable.com/k3revo idk how this roller does it, but one of the only rollers ik on console, that lurches and everything. no cfgs, obv on console and all, but nutty asf. yes i was trolling with the 0.2 sens lol, ignore the spin but yeah, again idk how its possible, but u can see them lurching, thought id clip it for lols

[rotund rivet]

actually what roller you running. I'm proba gonna be casual in apex now

[spice jungle]

?? im mnk lol

#handcam

[rotund rivet]

and now i've made a fool of myself and hurt myself.

[spice jungle]

when i said out roller the roller, was prolly confusing lol. id meant by using sub machine gun and burst weapon, and just hip firing. sorries 😛

[green kraken]

its just horizon airstrafing

[spice jungle]

thats not lurching or tap strafeing? damn, here i thought that was, going against it feels like lurches thats for sure

[green kraken]

nah

horizon op

[spice jungle]

frfr, i guess that makes sense. controller shouldnt be able to tap strafe or lurch without a cfg

[green kraken]

yeah controller cant lurch without cheating

The closest roller has to lurches is ghost strafing

[green kraken]

https://youtu.be/ZkrB4fRHHh8?si=WLa_T686aU65YUoM

[mortal hatch]

yes

[mortal hatch]

me and @toxic saddle

[torn oyster]

2am apex feels different tonight

ima hop on the setting my name as destroyerxxxx bandwaggon

seems to work

[bright elm]

https://youtu.be/1wx-ybNf8rk?si=mUEmkgJ0Td0qwsj_

[vale sapphire]

any concerns abt the RCE exploit vulnerability thing?

[torn oyster]

RCE isnt confirmed so its fake news

twitter blows everything out of proportion

[raven hull]

yeah thats just a controller player making use for Horizons faster air strafe speed, Console is incapable of lurching and tap strafing because of how its programmed.

[spice jungle]

TOO CLEAN

[vale sapphire]

huh I thought rce was basically confirmed

And the only uncertainty was whether it's on apex's part or eac's

[bright elm]

yea confirmed

by someone unaffiliated with respawn

[vale sapphire]

yea ik that's why I said it was implied confirmed not actually

[bright elm]

like unless respawn would openly lie to their playerbase about what happened

everything being discussed is all speculation

[spice jungle]

man dat jump doe

oh hey @vale sapphire long time no see

[vale sapphire]

honestly wouldn't be surprised either way if they did or didn't

[golden sphinx]

respawn home of the devs who never fix things

also called some players freeloaders and asshats

back when you had to unlock every item in a collection event

just to unlock the option to buy the heirloom

[bright elm]

yea it's not off the table

[mental ridge]

im wondering if there are any members from the original dev team left

[little verge]

There were until the last round of layoffs lol

I mean technically Josh Medina is still at Respawn but that's not a good thing either.

[golden sphinx]

yall seen that they are switching to mostly just universal heirlooms now?

and will follow the final fantasy event method

at least if the leaks end up being true which tbh i have followed all the leaks and they have always been true

[raven hull]

pretty sad, they pivoted so fast as well.

the FF event apparently did so well despite being insanely polarising and they now want to milk that model. except they fired a load of people and now players are scared because of destroyer. The excecutives must be seething rn

[golden sphinx]

i know for sure i aint gonna be going for heirlooms anymore

ima just stick to the battle pass from now if the skins are worth it

tho they are usually not

[twilit flicker]

people are braindamaged enough to buy it

[wintry cypress]

https://youtu.be/HLPRaKO2CKg?si=w1gEXQtursViFRHD

YO

Thats crazy

[mental ridge]

i only got the ff sword coz its a one time thing lol

and i had 20000 crafting Material and spend like 80€

[raven hull]

[spice jungle]

@mental ridge i broke kovaaks again

[mental ridge]

gg

[mental ridge]

[vague nexus]

I got the sword cause it was a cool colab and im ballin, but what is the point if this thing

Its not a cool colab or anything, its just an universal heirloom that has nothing in common with the legends

[raven hull]

classic boomstick flexin on us peasants

[vague nexus]

https://tenor.com/view/xrd-exrd-crypto-btc-eth-gif-23801255

This event wont hit as hard as the ff colab

After all this hacking stuff, there will be a boycot

Even me as the respawn hq rent payer, i aint getting the event

[twilit flicker]

people are still gonna buy it

[vague nexus]

Some def will

But as long as its way less than the sword event, it should send a message

[quaint karma]

realistically the cheating being bad (just like in every other game) has nothing to do with respawn being 'incompetent'

is sony the worst company ever because PSN had an outtage for almost a month in 2011?

@vague nexus

[vague nexus]

Yes

[quaint karma]

cheating and this are entirely unrelated

imo

[vague nexus]

I dont care about the skilled hackers breaking into tournaments

Stuff like that happened every cs major

With some duck dude

But i do care about the kids buying cheats and playing on fresh accounts in diamond and pred lobbies

[quaint karma]

i have no idea why they relaxed the rank level to 20

[vague nexus]

I thought the being able ro queue with a lower rank player as long as the pqrty is tull thing was cool

[quaint karma]

it needs to be 100 or even higher imo

or fucking make it max level

level 500 prestige 0

[vague nexus]

But niw its a pain in the ass

Cause cheaters just boost one guy

And the guy doesnt get punished

[quaint karma]

i assume this will get changed with the next patch anyways

[vague nexus]

Yeah making the rank level cap higher would be nice

But also making it so that you dont get any xp if you do t get kills would be cool too

Cause they just make bots and farn

In like ltms

[quaint karma]

next thing you know were gonna have bots running around aimbotting

[vague nexus]

Bruh

They should then add a thing if you perform too well you get flagged

And the they should add an overwatch system like in cs

And like train an ai with that info

And have a solid ai banhammer

[quaint karma]

hopefully in the future

[mental ridge]

50 or 100 sounds fine

[spice jungle]

@bright elm https://streamable.com/pr4a1n just imagine tho, thru the trees. if only i could predict :c think my speed of tracking was way off

[wintry cypress]

I love how streamable just doesnt work anymore

Like it just loads for so long

oh it only works if i click on the link

weird

[twilit flicker]

same

[spiral mirage]

This skin is fire where is it from?

[spiral mirage]

Streamable embeds dont work properly a lot of the time in discord for some reason

[wintry cypress]

they used to be fine lol

interesting

[little verge]

Yeah I noticed it doesn't load in embeds anymore

[mental ridge]

streamable embeds used to work???

[wintry cypress]

yes

[wintry cypress]

i dont get apex randoms

i swear half of these people are faded as fuck

seer just swerving out of the dropship

doesnt know where he wants to go

and just leaves the game as soon as he lands

then me and the other rando get in a fight

he gets pushed i down one

and he just leaves the area

[mental ridge]

apex randomes are poggy champs

[wintry cypress]

audio so good too

damn

[warped lake]

Great game

[wintry cypress]

Yea for sure

Teammates run through 4 teams

I have 1 kill and 120 damage by the end of it

[spice jungle]

sounds about right

https://streamable.com/ai25d1 man this felt clean asf to hit (the last shot) wish streamable embeds would workk

[twilit flicker]

the ads sights one?

reticle_color "2147483648 2147483648 2147483648"

[twilit flicker]

u cant remove it

u can only make the ads invisible on some guns

and on some guns its gonna stay black

put it in autoexec or launch options

[golden sphinx]

whatever dev came up with the survive 20 ring closings

i hope him and his family

have a great life

idk how u can win and game and it only goes up by 1

[spice jungle]

this legit makes the rampage so like godly wtf

(i used to use crosshairx, found it more distracting then anything but figured id try it again lol)

[vestal crag]

Is apex playable again?

[golden sphinx]

if u take the hackers word for it

yeah

he said normal players and streamers are fine

and that he doesnt fuck with virus shit apparently

he said some shit like "we're jokers not clowns"

[wary star]

that is

if only he has acess

if someone else has access then GG

[wintry cypress]

Just watch the latest pirate software vid from zipp

They caught the hackers jumpbox IP

Hals machine was compromised

And he had the performance display on which has the server ID in it

So he prob just had a modified client sending certain shit to the server

[fathom fiber]

@twilit flicker yo Luka I am trying CRU stretch res can I get your steam launch option?

Also any tips and stuff to make it look crispy and beautiful…. Like brightness, sharpeners, anything really

[fathom fiber]

Also send me your video config idk my game looks pretty weird

It is smooth a bit blurry

Do you use nividia control panel sharpening? Like the image sharpening in manage 3d settings if so what level is it.

Sorry too much stuff the video I am watching is outdated

[mental ridge]

lmau youre playing 113

[wintry cypress]

you might have TAA on

makes everything look blurry asf unless youre on a high resolution like 1440p or 4k

[fathom fiber]

my shadow detail kept being on high i used another video config

[wintry cypress]

interesting

i have shadows partly turned off

[fathom fiber]

i usually disable it

i changed to 1680x1050 it feels smooth now

looks weird

aim is smooth

do you guys have that video config where everything is like this?

my game looks like real life even the freaking grass has a shadow. I turned everything low and enabled csm is 0.
No kidding the sun is much stronger in apex than in the real world.

[wintry cypress]

holy fuck

im actually so bad

r5 is ruining me

okok

its coming back to me

lesgo

[wary star]

just set streaming budget to 0

[quaint karma]

its in hollows discord

[wary star]

worse part is

they broke into personal computers

[fathom fiber]

i am banned from there

[fathom fiber]

ingame

or in videoconfig

[wary star]

config

none probably works ingame i think

[fathom fiber]

this one?

[wary star]

nop

"setting.stream_memory" "0"

[fathom fiber]

thanks

[thorn swallow]

any in diamond ranking right now NA

[torn oyster]

just keep spamming...just keep spamming...

[bright elm]

lol imagine if they still had kill cams

[torn oyster]

imagine.

they'd be pissed

thinking im cheating w/ my name

[spice jungle]

I passed out 😦 and oh didn't know that was a thing lol

[bright elm]

i need to uninstall

im convinced my pk only hits for 20

[spice jungle]

9's*

❤️

[sonic marlin]

Do I reinstall apex

[bright elm]

you're not gonna get hacked

for openingi the game

lol

[sonic marlin]

I haven't had it installed in a year and a half

[bright elm]

i mean if u wanna paly the game

sure

[sonic marlin]

I want to try it again

[spice jungle]

okay @mental ridge talk ab a weird grip, i guess i do have a weird 1 1 3 lol, never noticed it till now

[spice jungle]

yes u are wdym, theres desroyer 2009 everywhere dont you know, you are getting hacked upon starting ur computer. might as well smash ur pc and eat a lasagna and call it a day

like issa ggs bois

[spice jungle]

yo @bright elm do people play 120fov on native? 1920 x 1080, or is that only a stretched res thing

[spiral mirage]

I used to

Then I went down to 105

[spice jungle]

ahh gotchya

[bright elm]

yes

but you're going to notice that shooting people at range is a pain in the ass

i tried it on native

immediately went back to 104/110

[spice jungle]

i used to play it on 1440, but now that im back on native, think il stick with 104/110

[raven hull]

Call of duty, cross map throwing knife ah clip

holy shit there were so many typo's in that short sentence

https://tenor.com/view/twomad-fall-okay-girl-skype-gif-22645874

[safe igloo]

https://tenor.com/view/shocker-finger-pp-wee-penis-gif-14426466

[bright elm]

https://tenor.com/view/apex-legends-apex-gibraltar-twerk-thicc-gif-17121825

[raven hull]

wym, used to play on 1440? is youre native 4k then?

[spice jungle]

sorry stretched 1440

4:3

1440 x 1080

[raven hull]

ohhh, okay i was mad confused. It made it sound like you had some cursed monitor or something

[spice jungle]

nah benq zowie xl2546k 😄

[bright elm]

☹️

11 damage

[raven hull]

mastiff moment

ill hit 66 on someone when i should have missed and ill hit 11 on someone i should have hit 88

[obtuse yarrow]

i bet if this was anthony he wouldve killed them

[bright elm]

he would've died in the first .5 seconds

[obtuse yarrow]

lol

[bright elm]

upgrade mid fight

[sonic marlin]

Lol

[wintry cypress]

https://media.discordapp.net/attachments/907484009360162846/1220164486573326466/Replay_2024-03-21_01-05-59-00.01.23.333-00.01.29.578-50mb.mp4?ex=660df1bb&is=65fb7cbb&hm=974f5ba14970280a869b01f64cb82faecd6b4e8aa683c722b45a55e80b943457&

Gyat

[raven hull]

[wintry cypress]

I played mixtape right after and was wiffing so bad lol

[mental ridge]

mixtape is a different game

like in pubs gamesense carries then u play mixtape and it doesn't mean shit

[wintry cypress]

i meant purely from an aim perspective

but yes

[light rapids]

r5r feels very different to retail apex imo

[spice jungle]

Cause everything is flat, velocity is different

[wintry cypress]

apex has a lot less input lag than r5 thats for sure

[light rapids]

why is that if im getting pretty much the same fps
and its both just apex

[spice jungle]

That's why you can get max momentum and tap strafe wall jump so easily on r5, it's flat ground vs terrain in apex is what i was told

https://streamable.com/m9s9h7 guys I'm learning to neo day 4 today. And peep this

[wintry cypress]

guessing cause its an older build of apex, its from like s3 so its not as optimised

[light rapids]

🤔

[wintry cypress]

oh yeah i see mfs moving like theyre in the matrix, carrying crazy momentum from superglides into wallbounces

[spice jungle]

Yeah jts easier cause a: older build of apex. And b: notice how everything is flat surfaces? Allows you to get max velocity at basically all times when lurching

[lilac onyx]

tbf thats kinda the reason i cba perfecting lurch strafes

[wintry cypress]

yeah and were playing on maps that were in apex a while ago, overflow is still being used for TDM but the other map not anymore

wait no

that was an arenas map

miss arenas man

[lilac onyx]

the positions i always end up playing are way too bumpy for bhops to be consistent

arenas was heat

peak warmup

[wintry cypress]

ya i loved playing like 2-3 matches of it a day as warmup

just so i could play some apex and get practice in an isolated environment

[lilac onyx]

it was great cause you could also choose weapon

thats the only reason i cant stand tdm or control

always has the most wack loadouts

[bright elm]

wym i love running charged rifle havoc

:D

[lilac onyx]

nah personally re45 and mozam

banger loadout

[bright elm]

re45 mozam caustic lockdown

w strategy

[lilac onyx]

straight heat

bro the more i play ranked the more i realise how dogshit my positioning is

its actually heinous

[bright elm]

do u get beamed by like 4 diff teams'

[lilac onyx]

nah i just end up slightly out of position and that always snowballs

[spice jungle]

They edited the maps too I'm free sure to make them flat. Although I'm not certain. Or just picked flat spots

[mental ridge]

my aim heavily relies on gamesense (micro positioning predicting enemie pathing /positions)

[lilac onyx]

also real talk plat pc is more difficult than masters console lmao

it feels like console diamond 1

[mental ridge]

like i can be mechanically realy shit and still do well coz if your gamesense makes u put yourself in mechanically easy situations then everybody can fry

[spice jungle]

@mental ridge did you see my comment about the 1 1 3?

Is that really a grip or were you memeing. Now that I think about it, my middle finger is half on the right mouse button, half on the right side of the mouse so kinda 1 1 3

[mental ridge]

i think so you wierdo

obviously u can 1 3 1 coz u can barely 1 2 2

[spice jungle]

Hmm idek anymore I just play how I play

[light rapids]

be thankful this isnt any other apex discord
because you would be about to get slaughtered

[mental ridge]

it looks like u dont even position your middle finger in a place where u can click most of the time

[lilac onyx]

i have 1k hours console, 300 pc and im currently going through plat rn

[spice jungle]

1 3 1 makes my ring finger feel so awkward and stiff and extended

[lilac onyx]

console is by far easier

controller vs mnk is another debate but pc vs console is easy

[mental ridge]

cant be console is way harder they have to do 40% of their aiming with their thumb meanwhile EVERY pc player has way more joints and muscles to aim 34 MUSCLES and over 18 Joints

[lilac onyx]

console players are ass tho

i say that as one

thats my point

like diamond on console looks aggregious compared to pc

[mental ridge]

no no they are giga insa e they play on 60 fps and still beam pc players that have 43 muscles and 18 joints to aim because they are just better

[lilac onyx]

trust

[light rapids]

ive never played console (or controller for that matter)

[mental ridge]

i have 5000 hours on controller trust me when i say controller players are just better human beeings

[lilac onyx]

i used to be actually fucking horrid at apex when i was on console and i still climbed in diamond pretty easily

[wintry cypress]

brother, my gamesense relies on my aim 😭

[mental ridge]

every mnk player is just a winey lil sad boy

[wintry cypress]

my whole playstyle does tbh

[lilac onyx]

me when controller vs mnk is the exact same as console vs pc

pc controller wins vs console controller

[wintry cypress]

yeah wingman every round 😄

shit was fire

[lilac onyx]

pc mnk wins vs console controller

simple as

pc mnk loses to pc controller

it aint that complex

[light rapids]

i be losing to everything

[wintry cypress]

i be losing to myself

[lilac onyx]

i miss the days of wingman groundloot

[wintry cypress]

fr

[lilac onyx]

getting wingman pk off drop

[wintry cypress]

i cant wait for them to put it back on the floor

[lilac onyx]

you knew it was boutta be a sexy ahh game

[wintry cypress]

i always had an insane game when i got wing pk

even tho im not always good with them

id run that shit in ranked and get a 7 kill game or smth thats pretty decent

[mental ridge]

u havent seen console randos just completely not missing any hipfire bullet despite beeing list as fuck

[lilac onyx]

i have

i was a console play brotha

[light rapids]

is that ever gonna happen tho
realistically

[mental ridge]

its the controller skill shitting on people without realising it

[wintry cypress]

it SHOULD 😭

werent they making plans to put it back on the floor this season?

i heard rumors

[light rapids]

yeah same

but sadly they didnt turn out to be true

[mental ridge]

nah just people like us hoping too much

[wintry cypress]

fr

so sad

[light rapids]

i also heard rumors about them losening up the sbmm brackets a bit

but that also didnt happen

😔

[wintry cypress]

😭

[mental ridge]

wym pubs is so much better

[wintry cypress]

well at least the LTMs seem more chill on SBMM

[light rapids]

that hunt mode was giga chill ngl

[wintry cypress]

the one from this/last week?

[mental ridge]

imagine that with the fully kitted guns and pre determined drops

[light rapids]

ye the one they introduced with the octane recolor event

[mental ridge]

with 90 players on storm point

[wintry cypress]

dude i loved that mode, the lootpool was so nice

[light rapids]

was just very annoying that loot drop guns were so common
like every other person had an eva and would completely demolish you

[wintry cypress]

just wish it was with 20 squads

not 10

[wintry cypress]

well at least u had more chance to be on equal playing groud 😂

[light rapids]

yeah that gamemode had not enough people
i dont think i even had a game where i surpassed 2k damage
just cuz the game ended very early

[mental ridge]

i hated that it was only 10 teams

[light rapids]

i hate lootdrop guns theyre just boring to play with bcs theyre too good xD

[mental ridge]

thats why 90 people on storm point

[wintry cypress]

i think i had 1 game with 2k dmg

insane

best player

[mental ridge]

nah youre just made u get rolled despite playing them

[wintry cypress]

or maybe it was like 1700 idk

[mental ridge]

coz when others have them they do good

[light rapids]

i literally do not pick them up

you can ask anyone i ever played with

[bright elm]

nerds

[mental ridge]

i only pick up the wingman

[mental ridge]

get gud

[wintry cypress]

https://tenor.com/view/wtff-cat-confused-orange-gif-25858653

[lilac onyx]

my team aint on :(

no ranked smh

i wanted plat 1 b4 tmrw but i guess not

[lilac onyx]

bro why cant i mantle jump in streamer

i can mantle jump basically anywhere else but i just cant in streamer

[arctic violet]

because the timing is harder, u hit the ceiling with ur head

[devout tusk]

Cuz its harder

[spice jungle]

do u have a guide

on how to play 131 lol

[light rapids]

enlightening

[radiant ridge]

nerfing bangalore

[toxic magnet]

@unborn token are you still on your artisan?

[mental ridge]

just hold your mouse with pinky and thumb in a way where you rest your middle finger comfy on the mousewheel u have to adjust your grips so your thumb pinky grip the mouse nicely then u just let your index and ringfinger fall onto m1 m2

[mental ridge]

i cant mantle jump at all

[lilac onyx]

nah i know how just smthn abt streamer fucks me up

[devout tusk]

Sometimes you have to drop some knowledge u know

[spice jungle]

https://streamable.com/97tryb this my issue, if u can lmk what im doing wrong

[mental ridge]

idk cant see shit

just put your mouse on the mousepad

[wintry cypress]

i can barely hear him either 😭

[mental ridge]

relax your hand as much as possible

[mental ridge]

he was talking ?

[wintry cypress]

yeah lol

[mental ridge]

im at work can listen to anything

[mental ridge]

place your middle finger on the scrollwheel

[spice jungle]

okay i rec another louder

[mental ridge]

let your hand sink down until pinky and thumb are at a good mouse gripping height

[mental ridge]

grap mouse and yeah your index and ringfinger just fall where ever is most comfy

@spice jungle

1 3 1 fingertip is cursed anyways

gotta play claw to have a stable grip

[spice jungle]

https://streamable.com/7yyfw3 my issue is when i have my middle finger on scroll wheel, my ring finger gets "stuck" on rmb, like i cant lift it. and yeah i play ftip, cant play slaw, i got smol hands despite cam makin them look big ig. also u still can barely hear me lmao i can share screen in call @wintry cypress

mfers lol

[mental ridge]

is your wrist on the table ?

have u changed chair / table height ?

[spice jungle]

whole arm basically is

[mental ridge]

how far away is your elbow from your waist?

is it close or do u spred it aside

[wintry cypress]

damn i actually kinda have that as well lol i can barely lift my ring finger

not that you need to lift it i dont think

but yea

[spice jungle]

im humping my pad my guy

i got that perfect posture tho, trust ive looked into it

[spice jungle]

for aiming?

thats my issue lol

[wintry cypress]

no i dont think so?

i dont lift my finger when i aim

and i also dont play 1 3 1

[spice jungle]

wdym you press down and then lift it up

[mental ridge]

nah u sit to high for 1 3 1 the rotation u would need to do in your wrist is too much thats why your middle finger gets stuck

[wintry cypress]

you mean lift up from the button? or lift it up after pressing down

[spice jungle]

lift up after pressing down

[mental ridge]

@spice jungle lower your chair hight and have a actual gap between your elbow and waist

[spice jungle]

ahh ok

[wintry cypress]

i can do that just fine

[spice jungle]

hmm idk why just me ig

[wintry cypress]

ngl tho using my ring finger feels weird as fuck

[mental ridge]

currently u have almost 100% shoulder rotation aiming and no biceps aiming

[radiant ridge]

tfw when want to try glasspad but refuse to use a sleeve

[spice jungle]

yeah i use my whole arm, and then wrist for micro adjustments, and then ftip for micro micro adjustments lol

[mental ridge]

like i have like a 20-45 degree angle in my arm pit

[mental ridge]

no no u dont understand u cant use your whole arm if your elbow is that close since u never need to use your biceps / triceps to aim u only rotate your shoulder for horizontal movements

[radiant ridge]

as someone with a fucked up shoulder, be careful with your angle

[mental ridge]

wym

[spice jungle]

wym

[radiant ridge]

i meant i refuse to wear a sleeve

[spice jungle]

ohhh

sorry for the middle lol

[radiant ridge]

your shoulder is not meant to hinge like that for hours on end. it's delicate.

[mental ridge]

like when i have my arm super close to my body it feels like im straining my shoulder

[radiant ridge]

yeah, your shoulder isn't meant to have an inward or no tilt either

[spice jungle]

https://streamable.com/dej8uzi have it at a pefect 90 degree angle. look up kovaaks channel, they have a guide on chair height. https://streamable.com/dej8uz its comftorable and perfect to me

[mental ridge]

im talking about the angle between the body and the upper arm

if its parallel u cant possibly play 1 3 1 if u have a normal wrist since u cant rotate it enought

[spice jungle]

oh idk, i just know having your arm at a 90 degree angle, and above ur desk but not to where your hovering over ur pad, but not to where ur leaning on ur pad, is the sweet spot

[spice jungle]

ahh gotchya

yeah im parallel but a tiny bnit above

bit

@mental ridge need to clean my backround, but this hand cam? or the one above where its facing straight down

[arctic violet]

can u link me the the chair guide?

[mental ridge]

i mean if u wanna 1 3 1 u gotta flare out your arm enought so u dont have ti twist your wrist too much

[devout tusk]

No way yall need a guide for how to sit just try stuff figure it out lmao

[mental ridge]

say the one who looks like a ❔

[spice jungle]

https://youtu.be/locnPgVvRio?feature=shared and https://youtu.be/UW_z6bCy1ZI?feature=shared were the ones I watched

[devout tusk]

I have good posture, this stuff is so beyond obvious idk why you need 10 minute yt tutorials to sit up straight

Youngsters literally cant think anymore

[light rapids]

chair check

[devout tusk]

Ahaha chillmaxxing

[wintry cypress]

console maxxing

[light rapids]

need to buy a new one ngl
its so fucking hard so sit straight in it

[devout tusk]

Just mount your monitor to the ceiling

[light rapids]

[mental ridge]

i never watched a video

i mean i did but all i learned is that having arm parallel to the table and having it parallel to the torso are 2 valid postures as long as the chair / table height is ok

and i learned that in one extrem u basically never use your biceps and only your shoulder for horizontal movements and in the other its reversed

[twilit flicker]

new heirloom so ugly

[torn oyster]

lifeline getting a hat

more hat skins

oh wait it says 36 skins

its that ff style

welp

[raven hull]

rip wawe wallet

[torn oyster]

oh naw. ima rng whatever crafting mats i got

and call it a day

[raven hull]

i really like the look of the loom

[torn oyster]

if its that heirloom shown in the trailer, i wouldnt use it

i play like 4 legends

and i got looms for em already

[raven hull]

i only have a single loom so the idea of having that on all of my other characters is mighty tempting

but you already have the buster sword, so i guess its diff

[torn oyster]

im sitting on shards for pathy/lifeline mythic skin

that sword is mid lol

its so big

[raven hull]

the buster?

[arctic violet]

internet people still don't get that their opinion isn't always asked for

[torn oyster]

entire right side is blocked off

[raven hull]

bad take ngl, thats like saying "you look up good form for gym workouts?? just lift it however and work it out"

[torn oyster]

the whole reason i play wraith

• add spinboi
• kit is still good
• heirloom doesnt block screen

[raven hull]

[raven hull]

ive always been a fan of the smaller knife, dagger style looms. They look the best and dont clutter

then you have pathy's boxing gloves

KEKW

[mental ridge]

is that the new wraith skin pov

[wintry cypress]

holy fuck

[torn oyster]

even horizons isnt that bad

[wintry cypress]

i just replaced my mouse skates

[torn oyster]

yh wolf

[wintry cypress]

i have so much more glide

wtffff

[raven hull]

it do be like that

[torn oyster]

i almost have 100 wraith skins

[wintry cypress]

bro they were so worn out

[mental ridge]

how old wich ones old wich ones new wich pad

[wintry cypress]

i was using my mouse as a mouse skate on the right side

they were that worn out

[raven hull]

i seem to apply a lot of force, either that or my skypad justr devours skates

my obsidians last like 2 months tops

[mental ridge]

i stopped forcefully buying every wraith skin after a while like especially if ill never play them

[raven hull]

before they become muddy

[torn oyster]

after 4 months i changed out my dots

[mental ridge]

your poor pad

[wintry cypress]

i usually last 3 months but i have cloth pad

[wintry cypress]

its fineee

[devout tusk]

Not the same thing at all lol

[raven hull]

i have bought some new obsidians made of a different material so hopefully they last longer

[raven hull]

well...yes it is

[devout tusk]

You can actually hurt yourself lifting badly

[raven hull]

and you can hurt yourself sitting poorly

[devout tusk]

Youre not going to hurt yourself trying diff chair heights

[raven hull]

whats your point here

[mental ridge]

some people arent to invested into gaming posture so they need some inspiration to figure out what to try

[devout tusk]

I can tell from the thumbnails all these vids are saying is keep your shit straight and that elbow being desk height gives the best range of motion. Takes like 45 seconds to figure that out

[mental ridge]

maybe watch them first

[devout tusk]

Na

[mental ridge]

assuming shit never helped

makes u just ignorant

and annoying

[devout tusk]

Keep watching chair tutorials ig

[mental ridge]

whats the difference between primarily aiming horizontally with your elbow joint and your shoulder rotation

[devout tusk]

I dont need pedantic terminology to know what gives the most freedom of motion

You sit high its more shoulder you sit low its more elbow

[mental ridge]

its not pedantic each style of posture has destinct advantages and disadvantages

[wary star]

https://tenor.com/view/pon-gif-15097379091171620462

just aim

[devout tusk]

Keep watchin the chair guides man

[mental ridge]

whos that

[devout tusk]

I been here long enough to know people overthink literally everything

[wary star]

this chat

[devout tusk]

And need guides for how to hold their mouse

[wary star]

i do think chair tutorials are p weird

at the end of the day

if you don't find it comfortable

they are bad

watch reviews instead

for ergonomics and shit

[twilit flicker]

aimers are the biggest schizos

[torn oyster]

i think people look up information when they dont know.

thats how the world works

or ask questions

[mental ridge]

i literally needed a guide on how to sit straight due to rely bad sitting habits

[wary star]

oh

[torn oyster]

not everyone is some aim pc gamer health enthusiest

[wary star]

i didn't read context

i only read about minmaxing aim by chair

this is like the grip convo

[torn oyster]

1hp vods are a great resource

[wary star]

where people over analyze grips

[mental ridge]

chair videos as in how to sit good for aiming so u dont limit yourself by bad posture

[wary star]

you have to have really bad posture for it to affect aiming

[mental ridge]

nah dude literally cant 1 3 1 due to him having his elbow tucked in and forcing a angled palm due to not beeing able to rotate the wrist enough

[wary star]

if you sit on a chair the way you are supposed to sit then it for the most part won't affect aiming

[mental ridge]

i come from roller lol

[wary star]

that's not the chair's fault

[mental ridge]

i can lay in my chair with a roller

[wary star]

adjust your table's height

[mental ridge]

yes obviously

we never talked about chair videos as in wich chair

[spiral mirage]

It is the chairs fault

Yell at the chair

[wary star]

LOL

true and real

[mental ridge]

no tweet about it and start a cancel train against the chair

[wary star]

bro

that is so bad

how much did it cost

[torn oyster]

not a lot honestly

i had coins from ages ago and a lot of crafting mats

[wary star]

oh

[torn oyster]

so maybe 80-90?

[wary star]

i skipped tht part of the event coz

[mental ridge]

same

[wary star]

the sword was so dumb

in game

[torn oyster]

it is

[mental ridge]

u had like 20000 matts@torn oyster

[torn oyster]

but it is never coming back again

[wary star]

was it your video?

that you sent

of getting combo'd

or was it someone else

[torn oyster]

uhh

[wary star]

air combo'd

[torn oyster]

i posted a vod of air comboing a rev

had 0hp and still died

[wary star]

oh

[torn oyster]

display had 0hp

[wary star]

crazy how all the people i played with

switched to controller

and are now preds

[torn oyster]

think pred cap is at 22k

[wary star]

the only ones that are still on mnk are movement players like future magic and shit

[torn oyster]

get 500rp+ a day

i can have it before split ends

[wary star]

idk how it is now but i queued NA with 2 preds

and we fought cheaters every game

atleast 4 cheaters every game

[raven hull]

yep sounds about right

[torn oyster]

pred difference

from #1 and #5

is 33k rp

[raven hull]

very real and organic gamers

[wary star]

i heard one of the top 5 was cheating

from a friend idk for sure

[torn oyster]

750 is 22914 atm

[raven hull]

whats worse is in the mid season patch notes, THEY DID NOTHING ABOUT RANKED

still the lv 20 ranked entry and still able to queue with anyone of any rank

[wary star]

the match making is fine till diamond

[raven hull]

its like they dont actually care

its unreal

[wary star]

true

[torn oyster]

its bc afaik

if ur 3 stacking u can queue with anyone

duo has to be 1 rank

[raven hull]

still an awful system

allow one rank above or below

thats all it should be

[torn oyster]

it should be. but priorities have now shifted

due to recent events

[raven hull]

to what? drive the game into the floor?

[torn oyster]

its not easy to run a game.

[raven hull]

[torn oyster]

i want it to succeed as much as the next guy raging at hideouts complaining about cheaters

but as a human, and not a gremlin

it takes a LOT of money to run a game.

theres only so much time in a day

[raven hull]

and they are making such poor choices tho, they change things that dont matter and blatantly ignore the issues everyone brings to their attention

[torn oyster]

people want them to wake up, work a 12hr shift for them

[raven hull]

its been what, 40+ maybe more days of people saying cheaters are a big issues because of the low level req and queueing with every rank

do they even attempt to address it mid season

nope

they actively dont care

id excuse it if maybe this issue was a few days old but its not. Its SEASONS old at this point, they have had more than enough time to figure something out

we cant excuse them being lazy

[torn oyster]

you also have to concider this

if we change it, what will it effect,
will it benefit casuals, will it hurt them
how will it effect the activity of core game
will it effect how active the player base will be
will it raise or lower needs to want to be able to play ranked games

theres a lot of if thens

cant change a number and think of it as a fix

getting to level 50, for the average player. takes longer than those who win game after game

[raven hull]

causals = unlikely as casuals tend to play only with their friends so they will all be the same rank or 1 rank apart.
core game = positively because cheating will be way more punishing for the cheaters as they cant just boost prep players on a rookie lv 20 account anymore they would have to be masters atleast.
active playerbase = much less complaining and anamosity towards the devs so not doing anything
Raise or lower = Raise because people wont be offput by having cheaters at every rank in every lobby, or at the very least much less of them.

[torn oyster]

there are bot farms and people can just buy accounts. that solves nothing

theres more than just on paper

[mental ridge]

fr fr real

[raven hull]

yes but slowing them down hurts them a lot

the higher the bar of entry and the higher the risk the higher the prices and the less likely people are to purchase the services

there is cause and effect

[torn oyster]

rookie shouldnt be able to queue with anything higher than gold, i agree but i just play the game

[mental ridge]

how does it require 12 hour shifts to have ranked entry be lvl 50 or 100 and have a max rank difference in 3 stack

[raven hull]

yeah i agree and thats an extremely logical and simple change, it would be a bandaid for now but it would be something and would show they are trying things

but they havent

they havent even attempted to

they are letting it fester

[torn oyster]

bandaid fixes arent the best in an outside consumer perspective, let alone for investors

if investors pull funding, thats worse for them

[mental ridge]

yes but if min level and min rank aint lvl 20 + rookie the acc prices gonna skyrocket

[torn oyster]

well thats their black market, not mine