apex

[sour otter]

ty bro

i was trying to gety 1080 x 1080

[opaque ridge]

playing 4:3 on a tracking game feels crazy

[wintry cypress]

Ya i cant imagine doing that

4:3 on cs feels great tho

[torn oyster]

4:3 apex is just weird

ive been 16:10 for a bit but i alternate now

[wintry cypress]

I did 16:9 a couple years ago and absolutely beamed but then i switched to 16:10 and havent been able to go back

[twilit flicker]

never switching from 1680x1050

[wintry cypress]

except 1728x1080

[fathom fiber]

are you on CRU stretch res or regular nvidia control panel?

[twilit flicker]

cru

[fathom fiber]

when i used it it lowered my fps

went from 165 to like 144'

maybe I watched wrong yt tutorial

which one you watched?

[twilit flicker]

idk i did it like a year ago

[fathom fiber]

long time

[fathom fiber]

does it feel better than regular stretch res

[twilit flicker]

idk

apex always feels like shit

[fathom fiber]

ik it feels kinda draggy there is so much latency. it is not as reactive.

when you do mouse movements

there is also the latency of your character. so many times I have closed the door and wasn't peaking and I still get hit.

[arctic violet]

dude why the fuck randoms in ranked wanna ape all the lobby but they can't even shoot straight, it's ridiculous

[wintry cypress]

prob cause they read the patch notes and know that kills are worth more now

so they just go apeshit

even tho they dont know how to fight

[surreal stirrup]

idk if this is the right place, but cant find a better:

"M_SH_PRO" is fakelagging like crazy in one of the EU voltaic apex r5reloaded servers

[ornate gorge]

30 tick rate servers its a BR nothing much u can do

[still tundra]

When did they make the kill RP changes? @wintry cypress

[arctic violet]

they don't understand u still to do a good placement for gain rp tho

[wintry cypress]

this season

[spice jungle]

@twilit flicker https://streamable.com/59vj0q is this considered a yuki? or just a ras/ lurch

https://streamable.com/egak6i i know this was one, altho a little one, and sharp/ not as wide/ perfect yuki

[bright elm]

that's apex for you

[spice jungle]

lul yup

weirdly r5 feels more responsive then apex itself

[gritty kayak]

https://www.twitch.tv/genburten/clip/SparklingDarlingApeKlappa-iYd-e5Nns_gMcGuv?filter=clips&range=7d&sort=time

in the middle of a match, thats wild

[visual bluff]

probs an RCE
happened to hal too

very concerning if they can do more destructive things then just installing cheats

[uncut bison]

they just postponed the finals

crazy

[arctic violet]

this dude destroyer is been coding cheats and stuff for 4 years, there's a video on yt of mande spoke with him

[visual bluff]

i would assume the worst just in case and assume its a full RCE and not even open the game until its patched
on the off chance they can install malware through apex directly
low chance but not worth the risk

[uncut bison]

yeah def dont hop on rn thats for sure

its likely the same shit cod on steam has been dealing with for years now

hes fucking queuing ranked and taxi joins and says "so?" LMAOOOOOOO

[barren jackal]

is there a way you can check your own system whether you are affected by this?

been playing Apex up until 1h ago

[visual bluff]

not really
i wouldnt worry very low chance but not opening the game until its patch is for the best to be extra safe

if u close to game ur probs fine

[barren jackal]

alright

R5r is completly unaffected by this, right?

[visual bluff]

probably but unknown

[barren jackal]

okay makes sense

ty

[little verge]

LOL Hideouts was talking numbers earlier? https://twitter.com/AntiCheatPD/status/1769532511057584576

Anti-Cheat Police Department 🕵️ (@AntiCheatPD) on X

PSA: There is currently an RCE exploit being abused in @PlayApex. It is unsure whether it comes from the game or the actual anti-cheat (@TeddyEAC ). I would advise against playing any games protected by EAC or any EA titles once they have fixed this or can comment.

Currently,…

Twitter · Mar 18, 2024, 1:13 AM

[bright elm]

im playing rn

how likely is it hough

though

that they just do it to everyone playing at the same time

[little verge]

I can't imagine they'd do it to just about anyone, but considering the potential, even temporary loss of your account doesn't seem worth it.

[spice jungle]

this is when kovaaks comes into play >:)

[mortal hatch]

yes

R5Reloaded is completely unaffected by the latest Apex RCE cheats.

[bright elm]

https://www.twitch.tv/xkristiann_

i have aids

[barren jackal]

uhh unlikely but it seems like it can affect anyone. There are many support tickets in the Apex discord about people who all of a sudden got an unjustified ban

[quaint karma]

wouldnt play right now, especially ranked

[barren jackal]

yeahh

[spice jungle]

yo can anyone here review a run for me and give me tips on what i should work on?

[quaint karma]

from what i read its down to what server youre on

and destroyer has targetted ranked servers plenty of times

[spice jungle]

got a feeling i know but if anyone could, be helpful ❤️

[quaint karma]

idk if hed do it to just random people but its not out of the question

and if someone else figures out how to do this

it coudl happen to you too

[bright elm]

yea

[bright elm]

nah im just dying off dorp

rn

haven't made it top 10 for the past hour and a halfg

[quaint karma]

deleted apex instantly but here i am

the addiction

[spice jungle]

ho dropping be like that sometimes lol, whats the map rn? stormpoint?

[quaint karma]

feels weird not having it installed

💀

[bright elm]

worlds edge

last map

i killed this guy

and the other two were just posted up on two separate buildings

waiting for us to do something

for 2 minutes straight

like the moment i ran out into the open

because i got impatient

they just killed me in half a second

so cringe

just afk'ing holding r2

[spice jungle]

hot drop but not on zips, but the area next to zips with the 8? doors, and stairs. then kill everyone there and push to zips from underneath, wipe them, and clean the lobby. usually my route

[bright elm]

team landed skyhook

[spice jungle]

i forget map names tbh, just know areas by "looks" haha sorry

[spice jungle]

i feel this tho

[bright elm]

im just mindlessly queuing up

atp

[visual bluff]

i wouldnt run apex until its patched cuz like respawn is likely rushing to patch this so if the guy was going to do some crazy shit it would likely be tonight
but if u dont have anything important on ur pc anyways less risk but still

[spice jungle]

mind viewing a kovaaks run for me? tell me what to improve on? i think i know what to already, but be nice to hear a third person non biased thoughts

[bright elm]

uh sure

not doing anything rn other than queuing up pubs

my kd is almost negative

rn

😄

[green kraken]

dont play apex rn its unsafe

[spice jungle]

https://streamable.com/dqd4vf for sure smoothness, (i doubled my sens for this scenario), and prediction vs reactive tracking, which is causing shakyness. uhh other then that, just fundemental mouse control? i got the focusing thing better (you see later in the run i get on target better)

[bright elm]

main issue is smoothness

like in plain sight, i can see your hand is kind of like

jittery?

are you overtensing at all

like does ur hand ever feel fatigued by the end

[mortal hatch]

https://x.com/R5Reloaded/status/1769555772738830347

R5Reloaded (@R5Reloaded) on X

Very important announcement, gamers!

Twitter · Mar 18, 2024, 2:45 AM

[green kraken]

yeah don't play apex rn

its an RCE exploit hack

[spice jungle]

mm, i doubled my sens, could be why. for sure theres tension cause of that. on 0.58 its alot better smoothness wise, also got a question

is it normal say on thin gauntlet, for even wearing a sleeve, to have stuttering issues? or friction issues near the wrist palm area? idk if its the humidity or what, but on the wraith v1 cosmic glasspad, paired with either the sora sleeve, or the pulsar es sleeve, same issue. if i track too slow, it starts to skip or stutter. fast tracking is smooth, but slow slow tracking, i get friction

exaggerated but as an example

[bright elm]

if you haven

haven't trained ur tendons, muscles, and nerves for that specific type of movement

yes

that's just ur mouse control being shown

on display

i mean i've always played with just my bare forearm

and i sweat al ot

and i used to have issues

but not anymore

[torn oyster]

"we fixed matchmaking / tweaked it"

the match making:

why on earth is there a level 3 in the lobby

[little verge]

Working as well as their anticheat.

[weak willow]

Using the apex playlist seems useless since your ads most of the time ?

[bright elm]

not the point

of aim training

[torn oyster]

Now imagine the scenario with ads

[bright elm]

you're still tracking

doesn't have to be exact 1:1

[spice jungle]

got it, il work on it

[little verge]

You're saying you don't have your FOV, sensitivity, graphics, weapon models, and everything 1:1 in Kovaaks as Apex? How are you supposed to learn?

[spice jungle]

and on lifeline at that XD was it a smurf?

[spice jungle]

frfr, you dont play kovaaks stretched res?? like how do you expect it to work then?

[little verge]

I also installed a script overlay to flashbang me with effects so I can simulate not being able to fucking see anything.

[spice jungle]

i installed a velocitity counter so i can ras IN kovaaks on movement scenarios so the enemies have NO chance against my movement. or i mean, the bots

okay im done now lul

[weak willow]

I may be a dumb fuck but what is the pont?

[spice jungle]

overall mouse control

[weak willow]

But by that logic playing osu should improve your aim

[bright elm]

it's not the same

you're precisely clicking on a 2d plane

which is vastly different

compared to a 3d plane

[spice jungle]

in a way osu does, but ^^ different scenarios, i could see osu working on smoothness in a way, and possibly reactivity

[little verge]

Tracking is also a completely different kettle of fish. You have speed matching, smoothness, reactivity, proximity, and so many other factors.

[spice jungle]

i could be wrong tho **

[weak willow]

When you aim train in valorantt you set your sensitivity to the same one you have in game and you click stuff, when you do it in apex you train your un-ads tracking, so when you ads in you playing on like .5 your sens or something and hand movments dont correspond to what you trained so it seems ineffective
Its like training your 3 point shooting in basketball on a smaller ball or a taller hoop

[weak willow]

and above you said its overall mouse control, so do you mean osu does not improve mouse control?

[spice jungle]

its not so much about the high scores, or even holding lmb. its about the hand movements, and speed of tracking a 3d bot/enemy without the pressure of a game. or the flicking, or reactive tracking and prediction correction, i mean theres so many niche things to work on. its not really about killing the enemy is my point, more about holding your mouse and doing the motions to build up muscle memory, the muscles, the posture, etc etc

[little verge]

That's a terrible analogy. Professional atheletes can do extremely well on carnival games despite differences from standard distances/sizes/etc. Muscle memory isn't a 1:1 recreation. When you're developing the ability to aim you're not etching some formula of x movement into y distance on screen.

[weak willow]

and if its a 2d 3d thing, you could train apex by playing valorant

[spice jungle]

at least thats my take ** muscle memory prolly wasnt a good example, as party stated tho

[torn oyster]

Potential accidental 20 bomb on rampart doing these dumb challenges

this is such a stupid legend

[weak willow]

dude just dipped from the convo 😦

[spice jungle]

theres a reason apex players do the valorant VDIM playlist, js over the apex routines

[torn oyster]

never play her

[spice jungle]

ayeee ggs

[weak willow]

What i meaantt to say is you could train apex aim by playing valorant deathmatches, at differant sensitivities

[spice jungle]

you can, many people play ow2 to train apex tracking

its just not as effective as an aim trainer

[weak willow]

@chat Is this true?

[torn oyster]

you can play tracking scenarios to train apex tracking *

[little verge]

People use aim training because of time density. You can run considerably more drills in it than you can in game, even compared to TDM. Moreover, you can't dictate how players move versus what you want them to do in order to practice. If someone's just playing like a bot crouch walking you aren't going to have the opportunities to learn how to track someone grappling over your head.

[spice jungle]

join the apex university discord and ask there lol. i mean aim training is always going to be better, but theres a reason i brought up ow2 in specific

[green kraken]

Apex has roughly around only 2% of actually fighting if you want good aim you'll need to aim train

[little verge]

And yes, tracking skills are tracking skills. If you develop those they'll work in different games. Valorant would be an outlier simply because the TTK is extremely short, and the style of game is far more suited to having crosshair placement and good click timing compared to high precision tracking over a duration.

But even tracking skills can be important to Valorant.

[torn oyster]

https://medal.tv/games/apex-legends/clips/21Idj2Gd1NUydb/d1337IDxT2V9?invite=cr-MSxsbE8sMzg3NjkzMSw

why have i never played rampart

shes so free for kills

[green kraken]

Mean there's a reason why dynamic clicking is the most recommended for learning mnk valorant I feel like is mostly dynamic clicking

Which also uses tracking

[little verge]

The best is when someone tries holding door on you and you just obliterate them with Sheila.

[green kraken]

Same applies for CSGO as well but CSGO you'll need to actually learn recoil control

[spice jungle]

play her for doors, its so fun when someone tries playing a door and you sheila them to death >:) also are you on rn? not worried about this hacking shii?

[weak willow]

The beggining argument was that training your unads sens its super ineffective, since most of the time you are in ads when fighting in apex. Than dude said thats not the point of aim training, saying the point is general mouse control, so i said that by that logic basically flicking to folders on desktop is a way to train your aim. Than he brought up dimension arguments and i said just play valorant to get better at apex.

So what i mean to say is that the apex playlist is extremly ineffective, since you dont train the type of aim you need in 90% of gunfights, and i still think i am right since nobody had an actuall counter argument

[spice jungle]

LOL yup!!

[torn oyster]

im literally only playing this legend

because of the flatline challenges

lmao

[green kraken]

The only reason you hip fire in apex is close range fights

Which is 90% of them tbf

[little verge]

I've never trained a single hour on my ADS sens and I used to play 1:1 ADS and actually improved considerably when I left ADS on Apex as default for 1x optics.

[weak willow]

but... that makes no sense(sens hahah funny aim training pun) 0_0

[spice jungle]

https://streamable.com/gmlxxm look how fast the second dood got dleted lol. then i had a sheila vs sheila fight. man ramparts fun sumtimes

[green kraken]

I aim train on 1.5 cause thats just what I use naturally

[little verge]

It makes total sense for the reasons we've already stated, you just don't understand what you're developing when aim training.

[green kraken]

Even though my ads is 1

[spice jungle]

i actually shoot with rmb anyways, so in a way, on kovaaks, all im doing is adsing in apex, for being able to ras/lurch and shoot so

[bright elm]

i haven't been talking because im playing

but the reason why it is effective is because it is training fundamental skills such as smoothness and reactivity

and strafe aiming

which is required in apex

it does not have to be a 1:1 replica

and many people can attest to the idea that the playlist actually helps

including me

(although i don't aim train anymore)

[spice jungle]

idk if i have permission to post progress in here, but if you wanna see improvement from it, just lmk and i got you LUL i was so bad man, that shii was saaad

[bright elm]

also

what is this type of aim

you are referring to?

[little verge]

I don't aim train on 50cm, which is effectively what my 1x sens would be. I usually do tracking scenarios on 26cm. I also don't use source FOV I use the standard 103 OW FOV in Kovaaks for tracking. So by your logic I shouldn't be able to do this:

[bright elm]

you mean just straight up tracking?

lol

[torn oyster]

more W matchmaking

[little verge]

But clearly I can't do it because I'm not 1:1 on everything so I shouldn't be able to hit those according to them lol

[spice jungle]

https://streamable.com/5eeus1 on kovaaks i play higher sens then in game, doesnt have to be 1:1 as stated, i play 103 OW as well, by logic i shouldnt be able to do this too :3 also nice clip party

i legit play almost double my apex sens when aim training actually now that i think about it

[spice jungle]

recoil control much?

😛

[torn oyster]

its so free once you learn

and r301 makes it easier

recoil smoothing / control

[spice jungle]

r301 is such a beast ong, i mean i can control recoil, idk that perfectly but close possibly lol

[torn oyster]

i have 2 clips like that where i beam em

and not even get a knock

im 100% certain i got reported for cheating

we killed em later

also i thought i was done after that game

[spice jungle]

i got a few, still working my way up to yalls point lol

[torn oyster]

game after game just cant play rampart

i just need 1 ring

[spice jungle]

solo que?

[torn oyster]

yh if i dont get it this time ill just no fill cheese it

[spice jungle]

fk it if ur on, then im getting on, fk this hacker bs

[torn oyster]

over exadurating it. its targeted

not random

[spice jungle]

ahh gotchya

[alpine trail]

https://www.tiktok.com/@dozzll/video/7347551615223696646?is_from_webapp=1&sender_device=pc&web_id=7323356817303684614 https://www.tiktok.com/@dozzll/video/7347551615223680262?is_from_webapp=1&sender_device=pc&web_id=7323356817303684614

[lusty elk]

Lmaoooo

[little verge]

It's not Hal's fault. Ever since he switched to roller he can't tell the difference between AA and aimbot.

[lusty elk]

[astral nebula]

rip apex

[twilit flicker]

this is a ras

[twilit flicker]

this is a yuki

[spice jungle]

got it, tyty

[spice jungle]

okay, il work on it, ty

[little verge]

Easy 3 piece

[obtuse yarrow]

my goat

[rotund rivet]

anyone got news on the destroyer2009 hacking?

saw the clips and looked up tweets on twitter but we need more

[twilit flicker]

ye

game is doomed

[rotund rivet]

damn was level 50 on the battlepass too

[frozen narwhal]

Your sensitivity is 55.5394 cm/360°

[arctic violet]

insane that respawn haven't still said something about that

[lusty elk]

It's probably rce

Also PROBABLY not going to affect you but I wouldn't risk it if your computer has your work on it

[lusty elk]

I mean, respawn probably has no idea what's going on yet either

They probably have an underpaid security staff

Given how many people they fucking fired recently lol

[bright elm]

what to play

in the meantime

[lusty elk]

Wdym. Just Kovaaks for 8 hours a day

You know you want to click balls

[wicked river]

https://www.pcgamer.com/games/battle-royale/apex-legends-streamers-warned-to-perform-a-clean-os-reinstall-as-soon-as-possible-after-hacks-during-na-finals-match/ too lazy

[verbal pike]

https://cdn.discordapp.com/attachments/1198857566856421397/1219175004617441290/Apex_Legends_03-17-2024_23-45-29-11.mp4?ex=660a5834&is=65f7e334&hm=d69557b7f4f496ea020663e18d35905e917a60a736394d6b1ab6421f22b16c00&

His name was oneclipped LOL

[sonic marlin]

Nice tracking

[lusty elk]

imagine having a game so badly secured for your users that the players have to reformat their PC

[verbal pike]

Thanks lmao aim training felt like it paid off

[sonic marlin]

Always nice when you get clips like that and you think to yourself maybe this aim training shit really does work lol

[verbal pike]

fr fr LOL

[lusty elk]

My first season playing apex my K/D was 0.4

This aim training shit definitely works

[raven hull]

i genuinely don't think they could say anything, if they admit their Anti-cheat has been hacked and its something we are forced to install that could surely open them up to legal problems. And if they do say anything it will be heavily downplayed and will try pass the blame.

[spiral mirage]

My dad owns respawn and youre finished pal!

[arctic violet]

"if they admit" there's nothing to admit, it's clear thats à huge breach in their system, and they should says something about the actual status of the game

[bright elm]

good aim

[raven hull]

Yes and no, its clear to us for sure. But its not a problem unless its officially announced as one. Until that point they could keep it quiet and either fix it or if they cant fix it shirk the blame to someone else.

I agree they should actually say something either in game / steam not on fking twitter. But they want to save face rn, having this happen off the back of layoffs is not a good look in the slightest

[lusty elk]

EA definitely would like to keep it on the downlow if they could lol

shit they literally let game 2 happen after DZ got fucked

just pretended like the most egregious security breach in esports didnt just happen.

[bright elm]

i mean there's nothing really to admit to

too

it's already been shown

i've already temporarily uninstalled apex

for the time being

just to stay safe

[lusty elk]

Im thinking they are checking if it's a phishing/malware issue with Hal/Gen before announcing anything official

[bright elm]

most likely yeah

[lusty elk]

but if it's RCE it's potentially extremely serious because they can with a little flexibility install ransomware

luckily this guy seems to be just in for clout

if not they wouldnt expose it infront of a live audience lol

[raven hull]

yeah destoryer seems to do it for fun more than anything

so we should be thankful hes not overly malicious

i mean he memes around with pro players in ranked sending 40 of his bots to run at them like cod zombies

[lusty elk]

reluctantly thankful I guess

[bright elm]

im more concerned that other hackers won't be as playful as destroyer

because all destroyer did was prove that there are vulnerabilities

[lusty elk]

yeah. Hopefully he doesnt share the exploit with other hackers

[bright elm]

pretty big ones too

[raven hull]

yeah thats the only concern, however it seems his method is his alone

[lusty elk]

Thats why I uninstalled

It's not him im worried about, it's when other hackers finds that vulnerability

what they could potentially do

[raven hull]

thing is destoryer has been doing this for a few seasons now

he can spawn apex packs on peoples accounts too

he gave hal 500 and mande 4000

[lusty elk]

yeah no like I said destroyer isnt the problem

it's the wider hacker community

they arent as "playful"

[bright elm]

only took 3 hours

to win another one

💯

[raven hull]

i dont even know that uninstalling would remove it tbh, a lot of anti cheats remain or keep critical components installed even when you specifically uninstall the anti cheat

vanguard is notorious for it, the only way you can actually get rid of it is a fresh OS install

its beyond stupid

[bright elm]

riot's vanguard is different though because the engineers who are responsible for the anti cheat is bigger + more budget

[raven hull]

and its source code got leaked

[bright elm]

fr?

when

[raven hull]

like last year

maybe year before

[bright elm]

it's already been 4 years and i don't recall a time where a significant vulnerability was revealed

[bright elm]

did it lead to an ytrhing

[raven hull]

not really afaik, they had the source ransomed back to them. Riot said get fucked and i think that was sort of the end of it

atleast as far as i was caught up

maybe something did come from it but i was ootl

[sonic marlin]

Riot Games: Over the weekend, our analysis confirmed source code for League, TFT, and a legacy anticheat platform were exfiltrated by the attackers. This is the only source i remember getting leaked

[lusty elk]

Uninstalling wouldnt remove virus no, but Im not worried about that. The RCE vulnerability is "new", so malicious hackers probably havent gotten their hands on it. Im uninstalling now so that if they get their hands on the exploit before respawn fix it, they cant use it to install anything malicious on my PC

[raven hull]

oh maybe that was what i was remembering then

[lusty elk]

I work on my PC sooo

cant risk it

lol

Im 99.99% sure Destroyer hasnt installed some invisible ware on my PC yet and only fucked around with streamers

[bright elm]

https://clips.twitch.tv/AntsyOriginalRabbitBrokeBack-zP5pbTdfQItnqf9D

my aim is so good

[sonic marlin]

Destroyer only targets certain people your goodd

[lusty elk]

Not that scuffed played it smart

goat

[sonic marlin]

I havent had apex installed for ages

And i formated my drive after uninstalling anyways

[obtuse yarrow]

youve been playing that entire time?

i respect your tenacity

[bright elm]

played for 7 hours straight

ye

from i believe

6-1

6pm to 1 am

unfortunately i cannot sleep because of my coughing and wheezing

literally impossible

[obtuse yarrow]

damn

my insomnia prevents me from even thinking of sleep

[bright elm]

i would be depressed

if i had chronic insomnia

[obtuse yarrow]

yeah it sucks

[edgy crane]

Yeah but the breach is still there

It just takes one person that doesnt only target ppl

Then everyones account is fuckws

[rotund rivet]

if destroyer2009 and r4ndom can bypass layers wherein even if we uninstalled and clean wiped our OS and storage drives there is a bigger concern that EA and Respawn will have to legally answer to

from the apex discord

[bright elm]

yep

legal trouble

[rotund rivet]

https://tenor.com/view/wtf-wth-wait-what-oh-god-noo-gif-14760173

respawn devs when they wake up to the news

[bright elm]

oh btw that comment wasn't towards you

it was to the other guy

[arctic violet]

twitter is full of brainrot like wtf😂

[lusty elk]

Average twitter user has no idea what they're talking about

Like not even the slightest clue

[little verge]

All good, I was emphasizing the point to him as well.

[lusty elk]

it's not good to take things seriously there.

Everyone can chip in so things gets really messy

[bright elm]

always has been

[arctic violet]

guess i will grind kovaaks these days since they don't fix the situation🗿

[vague nexus]

Finals back on the menu?

[bleak flint]

Why didn't Hal just spinbot the lobby

[vague nexus]

That would have been funny asf

Imagine the overlay opens and hal just maxes everything out

I wonder how the guy did it

Did he get gal and gen to download something, or he did it remotely

Like rce'd him

If thats the case and there is an rce exploit, that is really fucked up

[bleak flint]

I hope remotely. I want Apex to get fixed properly

[vague nexus]

Thats really bad

Mw2 had one

You could litterally take controll of someones pc

I think the devs got sued or something cause of it

[lusty elk]

Judging by simple interface on Gen's side, the cheat was literally built into client so it was probably pretty lightweight

Probably no executables or anything for gen/hal to download

[rotund rivet]

Decent playerbase I guess

[lusty elk]

Right. Maybe time to give finals a try

Or Valo... I have never played Valo before

[sonic marlin]

Donnt play that game

[lusty elk]

People seem to have PTSD from valo

Can't be worse than league can it

[wet glade]

R5 Reloaded

[raven hull]

I have returned from prison

[lusty elk]

[raven hull]

i said a fortnite meme and the bot got angy and banned me

tbh i deserved it for merely thinking about fortnite.

[bright elm]

https://x.com/teddyeac/status/1769725032047972566?s=46&t=mSdKadJWsDCJ2vI6Ox_4eA

Easy Anti-Cheat (@TeddyEAC) on X

We have investigated recent reports of a potential RCE issue within Easy Anti-Cheat. At this time - we are confident that there is no RCE vulnerability within EAC being exploited. We will continue to work closely with our partners for any follow up support needed

Twitter · Mar 18, 2024, 1:58 PM

[mellow kestrel]

Why do ppl think its EAC

EAC literally made by finnish devs (ultra competent)

Respawn on the other hand 💀

[vague nexus]

Last post before thisbwas 5 years ago

Bruh

[bright elm]

THATS THE FUNNT PART

[vague nexus]

Ea lawyers were calling non stop they had to reset pasword 😂

[bright elm]

yeah they must've deadass sent a reset password email

[vague nexus]

Hahahahahha

[twilit flicker]

do people actually think hal and gen are cheating

[vague nexus]

Def not

People do, but gen and hal are not cheaters

[mental ridge]

i mean technically they were cheating

unvoluntary

but cheating

[vague nexus]

I hal didnt have a camera on him, he would have cranked everything in the menu and went wild

[bright elm]

yes

the ppl who don't play apex

they're like "oh so pros are being exposed for cheating now? no wonder apex is so bad 🤣🤣"

[bright elm]

bro it would've been gold content

if he climbed to the roof and just laserwd

everyone

to force the admins to do something

[mental ridge]

that would have been so funny i think he would have gotten away with it

gen and hal should have done a hvh kill race

[bright elm]

yea like

by the time the cheats were injected

might as well consider the match cancelled

[mental ridge]

and now i dont even wanna touch apex

coz im certain that incase your unlucky and get trolled by a cheater that was there is no way to get unbanned im certain ea/respawn will not care about a individual

[feral merlin]

what happened yesterday was crazy

never seen anything like this before in any other game

didn't even think it was possible

[mental ridge]

didnt they do stuff like this in the old cods?

[feral merlin]

Idk maybe but I never seen it

[vague nexus]

Mw2 had rce exploit

[arctic violet]

this dude is coding shit since 4 years

he knows everything about the game source

[bright elm]

every cod

had smth like that

i remember on my ps3

i did that shit

the mod menu

with a usb

[mental ridge]

[bright elm]

this was like

2015-2016

[mental ridge]

thats like yesterday

[bright elm]

true

https://youtube.com/shorts/3c71SmRwFM8?si=6T9BrpCr-corWMlE

heheheha

https://tenor.com/view/clash-royale-clash-royale-emote-gif-23858585

[lilac onyx]

cs2 had an rce exploit as well too no?

it was just used a lot more maliciously

honestly its probably something to do with source as an engine

[wintry cypress]

ya i seen some dude promote zoophilia and pedophilia on there today

definitely not mentally ill

[mental ridge]

what are u saying ?

[twilit flicker]

yapping final boss

[lusty elk]

He's basically saying if the exploit is so bad that if we uninstalled and they could still install malicious software, EA and Respawn will probably have some legal troubles

Uninstalling is actually overkill at this point, since not running the game should stop rce exploit from doing anything nasty to your pc

[wintry cypress]

guess i wont be playing apex 😭

i was actually kinda looking forward to playing today

[young pine]

99% of players will be unaffected. pros and content creators should definitely take a break but anyone else is fine to play if they want

hal and gens pcs were likely compromised long before it happened

[wintry cypress]

🤔

i mean if its in the servers

i dont want my personal info going out u know

[mortal hatch]

it's not a data breach

don't think that's an issue

[twilit flicker]

i aint playing until we get a response

[wintry cypress]

hope not 🙏

we getting close

[torn oyster]

I'll be playing anyways

Idec

[lusty elk]

It's probably not a data breach (it could be) and it's probably not affecting you yeah.

I'm only uninstalling it because my gaming PC and work PC overlaps. can't risk potential ransomware on sensitive work

Well. Not that sensitive.

[lusty elk]

I had no idea that even GM requirements are like 93++ percentile

Nova must be like 96-97 percentile?

Damn

[wintry cypress]

ya gm is like 3300

so thats top 800 from the looks of it

[lusty elk]

[wintry cypress]

i could prob get it if i dropped my sens

but im butthurt

i wanna get GM on 20cm

[lusty elk]

Nah that's fair. Stuff like that is what keeps you motivated

[wintry cypress]

for sure

friend of mine was couple points off GM on smoothbot

switched to 50cm

got nova score

👍

[arctic violet]

that was on 20cm? crazy dude

[lilac onyx]

honestly i actually doubt it cause its not like rce exploits are that uncommon, just a company as big as ea should have no issues patching out the easiest ways to perform them

[wintry cypress]

yup

😄

[young pine]

they were both given thousands of packs months ago by the same hacker. I believe they've been compromised since then

[lilac onyx]

thats a different kind of exploit though

rce just requires like a memory allocation error or smthn and youre in

its not too difficult

[young pine]

has it been confirmed it was rce? I'm not familiar with hacker jargon

[lilac onyx]

i mean itd be the only way i can think of smthn like that happening

and after cs2s rce incident i guess its probably just a flaw with the source engine

[wintry cypress]

my friend sir pa aki on the leaderboard actually has a higher score than me and hes playing on 10cm 😭

tho he has like 4x the amount time on kovaaks than me

[lilac onyx]

but we wont truly know until ea or respawn issue a statement

[arctic violet]

10cm is insane, i get gm on 45, on 20 probably i don't even reach 3000 score😂

mind u if i add u on steam tho?

[wintry cypress]

sure go ahead lol

[green kraken]

Apex uses a knock off source engine though

[mental ridge]

i think i should play more kovaaks now that i can calw my ulx tiger

probably will do alot

[steep root]

i think apex has the worst eac package available like the cheapest one

[lilac onyx]

its just modified, same as tf2

[green kraken]

so yes a knock off

[lilac onyx]

and its not exactly like eac is good even if you get the most expensive package lmao

[lilac onyx]

still mostly similar

[green kraken]

the funniest part of all of this is hideouts dickriding easy anti cheat

for WEEKS

[steep root]

for real man its honestly a major scape goat for companies imo

its not our fault our anti cheat sucks blame them !

[green kraken]

respawn is acting like we shouldn't flame hideouts rn for it

[lilac onyx]

i dont think ive ever played an eac game thats either functioned properly or hasnt had a huge cheating problem

[arctic violet]

if we player just keep to playing and spend money they wouldn't do anything is really that simple, if all the player stop to buy things they will do something for sure, but that's not gonna happen since the amount of people I've seen for example with the final fantasy heirloom

[lilac onyx]

or both

[steep root]

dude the worst part is

[lilac onyx]

same things happened with d2 except theyve finally stopped playing

[steep root]

the worst part is

[green kraken]

the just don't buy it is cringe cause content creators will buy it anyways

[steep root]

its the top 1 percent spedners

that carry teh cames revenue

[green kraken]

so they only part that can work is being vocal

[steep root]

its the whales

legit theyd be fine if everyone quit and that top 1 percent spenders kept spending

same bullshit with gacha games

[lilac onyx]

yup

[steep root]

ea is fully aware of it

look at their main game fifa

its lITTERALLY a gacha game

[green kraken]

yall aren't getting it

content creators buy anyways

because they get to spend less money on it

with a tax write off

[steep root]

yea it trickles down but honestly even if everyone didnt buy it that one percent still would

[green kraken]

so our only hope is to be vocal about it

faide will buy every heirloom no matter what

[lilac onyx]

it all just comes back to the same issues the entire games industry has been facing for like 10 years now

[steep root]

yup

[lilac onyx]

its a profit based industry so money is the only thing that actually gets noticed by companies

[steep root]

thats why we only give money to indi devs

:D

[lilac onyx]

ea is starting to notice it a bit more considering they have one multiplayer ip rn

but still not doing anything

season 20 was a nice start

[steep root]

didnt fix the server stutters

that flatty recolor is pure bait to inflate player numbers

[lilac onyx]

tbf ive been getting wayyyyyyyyyy less server issues

it used to be horrid

but this season ive had none in br

and only twice in tdm

[steep root]

its def smoother i hit way more superglides than last season

like overall

[mental ridge]

Placebo

[steep root]

im just that guy then

[arctic violet]

not totally true, cause there aren't thousand of creators, and most of all creator buy things only with money that come from views, subs whatever like we player have the full control

[green kraken]

yeah its still an issue

[arctic violet]

but obliviously me or u can't force people to do something

[green kraken]

I think tax write offs shouldn't be able to used for content at all

[mental ridge]

why not

they make content by reviewing such stuff

[real flume]

are u a content creator?

[mental ridge]

its a business expense

[green kraken]

cause you get content creators buying every heirloom regardless if its healthy for the game or not

they'll always mindlessly pump money into these games

[mental ridge]

that is some wierd reasoning

like why would the state care

[real flume]

they make a living off of creating content. they should without a doubt get tax writeoffs for pushing money into something that will generate them more income like views or likes etc

[mental ridge]

some people on Instagram waffled about having found viruses on their pcs after having played apex

can anyone confirm that the same happend to them

[wintry cypress]

just played some r5, either ive gotten better or the players have gotten worse

[green kraken]

I mean it's a security breach thing from an RCE exploit

Apex is chalked rn

[golden sphinx]

the new apex heirlooms following the same system as the final fantasy event

as if they were not already overpriced lol

i hope this leak is true and they are not just some limited time modes like usual

[raven hull]

Highly unlikely to be apex related

[mental ridge]

how do u know

[raven hull]

https://www.twitch.tv/videos/2094227670?t=9h21m58s > this is a convo between Mande and PirateSoftware that took place earlier today. Its a good watch and PirateSoftware has years of experience in Offensive Security and is able to break down (from the info provided to him) what likely has happened over at respawn

[mental ridge]

why wouldn't hackers use apex to widely distribute viruses like keyloggers or trojaners

[raven hull]

because that would literally be the BIGGEST security breach to ever come from any game period

[twilit flicker]

destroyer doesnt care about that

he just trolling the company

[raven hull]

its not something that would be like "whoopsy do we made a mistake" it would be the biggest gaming news this year

also Destoryer does most of his stuff for clout, we all agree with that right?

[twilit flicker]

ye

[raven hull]

the cod zombies esq ranked games, gifting packs, even the mod menu he showed on gens stream

was all for memes

[twilit flicker]

ngl he funny

[raven hull]

if he wanted the most clout and to show how good he really is, he would have given EVERYONE in that game cheats

not just two streamers

the fact he only did it to two of them, lends credence to the fact both their machines had been infected for a while and destroyer chose to activate it only then.

[golden sphinx]

if he didnt do it for clout he wouldnt have had genburten spam his name when he took over genburten

if he hadnt done that people could have easily thought gen was hacking and just slipped up lol

[raven hull]

he was making a mess with the tools he had access too

[twilit flicker]

but the problem is that other people will figure out how to do it

[raven hull]

if he had access to everyones clients he would have spammed the text on everyones games

not just gens

[golden sphinx]

who knows might only be able to do one person at a time

[twilit flicker]

anyone know who r4ndom is?

[golden sphinx]

no clue

[raven hull]

cant say i do but im also not in the "hacking community" at all

its probably a name someone in that space might know

i just feel bad for the r5r guys who got railed because Hal uninstalled it infront of like 40k people

and everyone panic'd

even tho it has nothing to do with them

[twilit flicker]

that sucks

[mental ridge]

well he could make a big profit by selling the methode

[raven hull]

maybe, but given what we know about the stuff hes done. Hes most likely phished an employee pc and is using that for his server level access shinanigans, the gifting of mass packs, getting his bots to matchmake into the same game, opening packs on peoples accounts. Thats all server level stuff. its not a "method" he can sell, because hes using direct access to the server to do all this.

i should add this isnt confirmed but its the most logicial speculation on the subject.

as good as destoryer is, hes a hacker not a magician. So he would still follow the same path most hackers would when getting access to this kind of stuff, its the inital getting in thats the hard part.

[mental ridge]

in the stream where is he talking about hal and gen getting cheats installed on their machines

[raven hull]

what about it?

do you mean like the method he used to gain access? That would have been external, he either baited them with an email or they downloaded software that already had a vulnerability and destoryer abused that other softwares vuln to gain access.
Having helped companies pass cyber essentials before im aware that theres a ton of software, even stuff built into windows by default that have some extreme vulns that can allow malicious persons to gain access to a machine.

If destoryer knows what hes looking for and he knows his target has that software, it would be easy pickings

[mental ridge]

and he gets the ips or what ever he needs to know to find hal from tge server?

[raven hull]

doesnt even need that, he has access to hals actual computer at that point

[mental ridge]

youre dense im talking about b4 he has acces to his computer

[raven hull]

why dont you explain what your saying then

[mental ridge]

like how does he know which is hals computer?

[raven hull]

you are talking so vaugely im having to guess here

[mental ridge]

sorry i have autism

[raven hull]

oh right i see what you are saying, the answer is maybe. at this point without knowing what he abused to gain access its hard to say. Seeing as he has only ever targeted pro players on stream, id wager he got them a different way. It may have been something as benign as an email attachment that was meant to look like a brand deal or something.

he would have targeted them specifically. If he could simply get their IP and what not from the server and then abuse a vuln, it would have happened to more than just hal and gen yesterday

[lilac onyx]

right i dont have the attention span to not play apex so ill let you fellas know if its safe or not lmao

[raven hull]

it would have been quite a few more

[raven hull]

its safe tbh

[mental ridge]

u owe me 10k for my apexacc then if i loose it

[raven hull]

• not legal advice

there, now im absolved of any responsibility

[twilit flicker]

everyone talking about apex rn 😭

even muta

r5 is famous

[raven hull]

a title like that is fearmongering tbh, although i dont like someordinarygamers so maybe im bias

[lilac onyx]

well my apex crashed 3 times

so uh

maybe not

[raven hull]

apex moment

[twilit flicker]

thats just apex being apex

[lilac onyx]

still cba

[lilac onyx]

also completely unrelated but nice blame pfp

[twilit flicker]

blame so fire

[lilac onyx]

for real !

best manga of all time tbh

[wicked river]

This is the no apex november we wanted just like 2 years late and completely different reasons

[wintry cypress]

Real

Hopped on some r5 instead today

[rotund rivet]

Nah that's apex being apex

I'm still just gonna air on the side of caution.

[lilac onyx]

yeah thats fair

i mean i didnt have any issues

but i was on it for 15 min

[green kraken]

all of it is fear mongering but rn eac is actually unsafe

your right for hating someordinarygamers though

[rotund rivet]

on another topic: why though

[green kraken]

seems very sterotypical conservative in his values from what I've seen what he's talks about doesn't help that he's a buisnessman either

[rotund rivet]

aight im gonna go down that rabbithole real quick

[radiant ridge]

there is literally nothing except speculation by people who couldn't leave vim googling what "rce" is for the first time. err on the side of caution if you want, but it's really overblown.

[manic vale]

i saw that you shouldnt launch apex rn, how true is that?

or eac games

nvm ig its chill? more just a targeted attack

[half salmon]

targetted attack

they have no reason to attack nobodies

[dull falcon]

New mouse

[half salmon]

https://tenor.com/view/bobawooyo-dog-confused-dog-huh-dog-meme-shocked-dog-gif-16713203299056947073

[dull falcon]

mmo mouse >

[half salmon]

lie

u aint about the razer naga life

[dull falcon]

me if i actually played mmos

[bright elm]

targeted

if it wasn't we probably would've already be hearing about cases

about thousands of players

getting their shit hacked

[bright elm]

also

i need to stop hipfiring

hipfiring has gotten me killed more times than it actually helped me

[hollow brook]

hipfiring is op for close range wdym

[dull falcon]

AN YONE WANT TO 1V1

[bright elm]

yea nah

the bullets just disappear

[mortal hatch]

AU is popping off lesgooo

[green kraken]

Hipfiring close range is the only reasonable way to aim close range

Why would you limit your movement speed like that

[spice jungle]

i think ima go for a higher rank in voltaics. anyone have any interest in grinding and progressing in kovaaks with me? never done a benchmark before, but i wanna grind with someone and have us both get to master +

[spice jungle]

I DO

[bright elm]

oh yeah

ik

[bright elm]

i can join you

in a month

going for gm/nova

[spice jungle]

nah ur too pr0 for me lol, ur the one teaching me alr XD

i wanna get to YOUR level hahaha, but nah im game, just u be built diff 😛

[bright elm]

only like

2/3 GM scores

altho i haven't aim trained

in like

a year

so im prolly jade

rn

jade/borderline masters

[spice jungle]

man the one scenario i suck ahh at is vox viscrose? i think its called, target switching/smooth scenario. cant for the life of me do that one, any tips? @bright elm

[bright elm]

voxTS viscose?

some fundamental skills that are needed for that are like

1. being able to efficiently chain kills together so you're maximizing damage output
2. being able to smoothly track a bot after switching

those 2 are pretty ibg

[spice jungle]

finally 90th percentile lol. scenario was getting annoyin but i refused to not get it on this one

[spice jungle]

smoothly micro track i think is my issue

voxTS?

its my worse one lol

ohh, i just found it in the apex target switching playlist today. finally a scenario i just picked up on easily for once xd

its ez mode, if you play 20-40cm/360 and just swipe

down to kovaaks grind w/ me? i need more kovaaks friends

like on steam, compare scores too, etc etc

[spice jungle]

ain no way im getting close to those XD

[spiral mirage]

HELLO!?

[arctic violet]

apex moment

[spiral mirage]

Wish the whole lobby was silvers and golds

[surreal stirrup]

that is toughhhhh

average apex ranked moment

[spiral mirage]

Theyre letting me know my place

[spiral mirage]

It was actually a mostly gold lobby lol

Unfortunately my teammates were also golds and im pretty sure one of the last 2 other squads had a cheater

[wary star]

which one is you

last i queued i could queue with a friend in top 300 as a plat

https://tenor.com/view/kekw-dow-gif-24856862

[golden sphinx]

he is the one in the middle

[spiral mirage]

I’m not with those guys they’re randoms 😭

I shouldn’t be in that lobby full stop

[golden sphinx]

solo ranked has been some of the most cursed experiences i have had

always burns me out

had a team where 1 teammate went afk and the other ran into zone and killed himself

and then said he was reporting me for trolling lol

pointed out that he literally ran away from me and was killing himself

and I got a warning from EA for it

appealed and added context that i was literally talking about him killing himself in the zone and they rejected it

[spiral mirage]

Well I told someone who deliberatly threw the match that I hope they received the same fate as Shinzo Abe in real life

Got banned for a week

Pretty sure you can appeal that

[golden sphinx]

my main got banned for some of the most petty stuff lol

i did appeal and got rejected

[spiral mirage]

Cringe

My buddy got perma'd on his main for a couple of steam names

Theyre so soft

[golden sphinx]

all i said was "pussy team" cause as soon as they heard fighting they turned the other way and ran

only going for placement points while having 0 kp

[spiral mirage]

I wish some of my rands would just run and craft

[golden sphinx]

i play an fps to shoot and win not just hide the whole game 😭

[spiral mirage]

Always do the opposite of what you want them to do istg

[golden sphinx]

if i wanted to hide id play prop hunt or something

[spiral mirage]

When you need help theyre nowhere to be found

[golden sphinx]

fr like i can get a knock and push expecting them to follow and i look at the map and they aint moved

the worst tho is hot dropping lol i swear every player has adhd and cant sit in the ship for longer than like 5 seconds

[spiral mirage]

Yep

On 8 squads instant death

[golden sphinx]

lool exactly its usually a small poi too

[spiral mirage]

I love teammates that dont push when you create an advantage with cracks/knocks but then they push a 2v3 when youre down

After the team has reset

[golden sphinx]

brooo on god

happens most of the time

[wintry cypress]

the balancing is off the charts

[lusty elk]

You can't win dude. I always do this when it's an unwinnable for me fight. Then they start shouting slurs and calling you noob for not fighting. It's fucking -60 RP and you lost the 1v2 without team. Don't blame me.

Doesn't matter how disadvantageous the fight is or how deep they went so I can't help.

Atleast if you fight you don't get called noobs, that's why people would rather get it over with

Bros never use the mic before engage and only use it to be toxic

[spiral mirage]

Chat is this real?

At least they got badges I guess

NEVER MIND THEY LAND ON 4 SQUADS AND DO NADA

[golden sphinx]

yuup

[lusty elk]

[golden sphinx]

if both my teammates die in the first 20 seconds with 0 knocks

[spiral mirage]

Demotion number 3 this game trust

[golden sphinx]

i just let the enemy kill me and go next

[lusty elk]

Speed run to demotion no.3

[spiral mirage]

Might just hit d4 again and then quit if I get demoted

This shit is impossible solo

[lusty elk]

Lmaoo

[spiral mirage]

If you dont lose to a stack it's a cheater instead

[woeful garnet]

shouldve known from the s12 master badge

and the teamwork badge basically has no value now cause of three strikes

[wintry cypress]

lol i got master in the latest easy season, i think it was season 16 or something?

ill be honest im more of a diamond player but at least i can use my brain

and i have decent aim sometimes

[arctic violet]

badges doesn't mean anything

[mental ridge]

i only see s12 puple diamond badge and two lp purple diamond badges and more diamond badges like wich badges???

[young pine]

ppl that can tell which badge was for a certain season is amazing to me

I never looked at them that hard ig

[spiral mirage]

Honestly some of them are easily distinguishable like s12 17 18 19

at least imo

[mental ridge]

the meaningless ones stand out ye

[spiral mirage]

The voltaic silver is leering at me

It beckons me to say some dumb ahh shit

[mental ridge]

im on mnk for almost 5 months

i dont realy play kovaaks im just here to waste time

[golden sphinx]

my progress is slow and steady except for static dots

hate static dots

[mental ridge]

i hate kovaaks

[wintry cypress]

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=2FzAnc-v3G8

[spiral mirage]

Take action regarding this individual!

The architect and the builder arrive upon their escalator with a sense of purpose

[twilit flicker]

🤓

[spiral mirage]

The head is soaring!

[lusty elk]

It's kinda.. wrong... Thor didnt know that it's not bots he's spawning, as in server sided bot. He isnt summoning units, hes just multiboxing dozens of apex accounts to queue into the streamer's lobby and dropping on them.

I kinda hate that all the apex clipping channel is clipping this particular clip even though as apex players they should know that Thor is under wrong impression lmao

[twilit flicker]

suddenly everyone on the internet is a cybersecurity expert

[spiral mirage]

As an expert in cybersecurity (self-appointed just now) Thor is right!

[twilit flicker]

everyone wanna sound so smart shits funny

[rotund rivet]

if you look up the background of pirate software he actually does have a background in ethical hacking

[twilit flicker]

im not talking about him

[rotund rivet]

maybe I just wanna hear assurance from someone who somewhat has knowledge on this field

ah okay

[twilit flicker]

just normies trying to be smart

[rotund rivet]

armchair experts

[twilit flicker]

all i wanna hear is a statement from respawn

[rotund rivet]

that its not something that affects consumers like us and uninstalling the game is just action taken paranoia hngh

[rotund rivet]

dev hideouts must be on the edge of just dropping it all

hopefully he keeps sane

[lusty elk]

probably talking about me, but yeah thor knows what he's talking about

problem is hes drawing the wrong conclusion because the person hes interviewing isnt giving him the right info

[rotund rivet]

well atleast from what the reasonable people are saying. It is not RCE so we can breathe a bit

[lusty elk]

then the one time hes wrong it's being used to clickbait

like it's so fucking

It's being used to clickbait because the one time he's given wrong info he drew the conclusion that this must be server sided exploit

the one wrong conclusion based on wrong info

[rotund rivet]

i dont have a background in this field

[lusty elk]

and now everyone is going "Cyber security expert says it's CONCERNING"

[rotund rivet]

and reading articles doesn't make me sensible so let respawn, EA and EAC figure it out

[rotund rivet]

well it is cause tech and exploits can evolve

fuck man I still need to survive 5 rings for the rampart stuff hngh

[lusty elk]

No, like, the whole time during the interview thor was like "Ok, we cant draw the conclusion it's not Hal and Gen being stupid and getting phished", as the end user you dont need to be too worried yet, just dont log in to apex.

Because as an expert his conclusion was "It's likely just the two pro players got some form of malware"

[rotund rivet]

but the publicity

[lusty elk]

Then wrong info led him to wrong conclusion, and suddenly: "NO NO THE EXPERT SAID IT'S A PROBLEM"

When based on his opinion when he was fed the right info it's "Honestly dont be too worried"

thats why it's so

fucking annoying

everyone is clickbaiting that clip

[golden sphinx]

what was "the right info"

as far as i know no one knows what the right info is atm and its all just speculation atm

[lusty elk]

He assumed that the lobby where Destroyer2009 spawned 40+ bots

was not players but ingame unit

like cod zombie or spiders or prowlers

this can only be done by fucking with EA servers

which led him to the conclusion that surely destoyer had server sided access

which is very worrying because this also implies a lot of things like data breach and admin privileges

But those "bots" were not ingame spawn, they were just bots from actual accounts queued into lobby

[golden sphinx]

it is 100% just multiple accounts

[lusty elk]

Yes

exactly

So when he said in those clickbait videos "This is concerning"

[golden sphinx]

otherwise they would all have the same name which they do but they all have a different like clan tag thingy

[lusty elk]

It was "Concerning" under the wrong impression

he didnt know it was not ingame units, but multiboxed accounts

now everyone is freaking out

mass hysteria

[golden sphinx]

if it was server side they would all likely just be destroyer2009 and nothing else

[lusty elk]

SECURITY EXPERT SAYS CONCERNING

[golden sphinx]

but the more recent hacks at algs are the bigger cause for concern

[lusty elk]

For the ALGS hacks, according to Thor

[golden sphinx]

hacker dude himself said it was RCE but easy anticheat said they found no signs of RCE on their end

[lusty elk]

You cant rule out that Hal and Gen are idiots that downloaded Malware and it's possible its not RCE

iirc he said it's RCE after the server sided conclusion

which makes destroyer way more scary

[golden sphinx]

yeahh thats true but also just a theory like everything else at this point

[lusty elk]

Up until that point he was like "Dont really need to panic, just dont launch apex and wait for official statement after investigation has concluded"

that shit went to hell after he saw the bot lobby clip

[golden sphinx]

like unless he is gifting them apex packs using his money

[lusty elk]

[golden sphinx]

which who knows maybe he is lol

[lusty elk]

yeah, we dont know

we actually dont know it's not RCE, that part hasnt been confirmed

it's just no one but Hal and Gen has been affected.

so respawn probably wont shut down server

[golden sphinx]

but hal and gen are also like the too biggest names in the game and the best way for him to get his name out and get clout

[lusty elk]

I mean, the saving grace if it's RCE

[golden sphinx]

hard to say at this point

[lusty elk]

is that he is only in for clout

IF it's RCE, like he CLAIMS (not confirmed)

[golden sphinx]

yeahh tbh a lot are just teens wanting to fuck around but not like do shit that could get them serious serious jail time if ever caught

ima still play the game tho idc enough

if i get hacked i get hacked lol

[lusty elk]

99.99% of players should just play the game

it's literally not going to affect you probably

Ok, I say should, but if you are concerned dont

on the VERYYY unlikely off chance it's RCE, and on the VERYYY unlikely off chance someone more malicious decides to exploit it

[golden sphinx]

i wouldnt worry much about destroyer doing it but if anyone else were to find out how he did it

they might use it for something worse if it is RCE that is

[lusty elk]

yes thats literally the ONLY concern

Many layers of IF

so if you just wanna game and have fun dont worry too much

it's really fucking unlikely lol

[wintry cypress]

shit hes smarter than me when it comes to this shit

and i wouldnt be surprised if he was able to spawn in bots

lets not forget mande was given 4000 packs

which may suggest he has access to server side

and i wouldnt be surprised if theres a code for bots in the game

[lusty elk]

He could, but also when I cough I could have throat cancer ykwim? It's like diagnosing cancer from tumor vs diagnosing cancer from a cough.

[arctic violet]

in the provisional match when u start a new account there are literally bots in the first games, if i don't remember wrong

[wintry cypress]

lol

[wintry cypress]

also wdym by this

you saying he hacked peoples accounts, renamed them and streamsniped hal with every single one?

[lusty elk]

I don't know how he got those accounts but yeah

Multi boxing is a way to run multiple accounts through VMs

He COULD have magically created those accounts with server sided access. Or he could have a bunch of boosted accounts.

Or he could have hacked accounts

The severity of his server sided access varies a lot from situation to situation

[arctic violet]

but how he teach to attack and follow only 1 person?

[wintry cypress]

interesting, but those accounts would still be controlled by AI right?

[wintry cypress]

this

[spiral mirage]

Of course it is just a claim, but Destroyer told Mande he had hundreds of bot accounts waiting to go

[wintry cypress]

really

damn

[lusty elk]

Bro we live in the age of ai, plus if you multibox you can run like 15 wow accounts controlled by actual humans using macro

[arctic violet]

like u need to have the id account of the "victim"

[lusty elk]

People used to do this to farm gold

[wintry cypress]

nah i mean like a bot lmao, not actual artificial intelligince

[spiral mirage]

Multiboxing is ancient atp

[golden sphinx]

these rampart challenges are annoying

hate playing her

[spiral mirage]

Sheila is so busted

^

[lusty elk]

Hackers can already read client sided info, he could very well program very simple follow and punch through the way they do wall hacks

[golden sphinx]

trueeee

seer was awful

[lusty elk]

You dont even need pathing

Those bots were extremely rudimentary, just land on and punch

[wintry cypress]

better than the fuse challenges

i fucking hate the ring closing ones tho, whoever put that challenge in there needs to be shot or something idk

[lusty elk]

They weren't doing insane ai tech

[golden sphinx]

fuse was hella easy

[spiral mirage]

A fair punishment

[golden sphinx]

for fuse i just turned off teammate fill

[wintry cypress]

i think hal actually got downed by a bot with a CAR

[golden sphinx]

dropped on a part of the map with no one else

and ran around picking up nades

[lusty elk]

[wintry cypress]

yeah i had to resort to this as well, otherwise its just instadeath

[lusty elk]

I suppose he can also read ground loot and equip the bots with aimhack*, we're talking about the algs hacker afterall

either way it's way more convincing to me than having unrestricted server sided access

= unreasonable hysteria over destroyer2009

cause at that point, you have to assume all your login has been leaked, encrypted versions of your credit card details are all leaked

respawn is fucked

[wintry cypress]

https://tenor.com/view/donald-trump-thumbs-up-good-job-gif-13776347

[spiral mirage]

This is assuming Destroyer is acting with malicious intent rather than to prove the respawn that their security is garbonzo

[lusty elk]

yes, also true

[frail kiln]

he could 100% be wrecking more havoc

I think he's just doing it for the keks

.. but how sick would it be if he just dropped everyone's aim assist to .2 in ALGS without them knowing

[lusty elk]

mfer really a voltaic user

top worry is still fking aim assist being broken

respect.

💯

[frail kiln]

it's definitely not broken