apex

[alpine trail]

I sure do love diversity hiring in the current landscape of game development

Makes for great games I assure you 👍

[sonic marlin]

Cod been like this for years and people still buy the games me included lmfao

[raven hull]

I sure do love diversity hiring in the current landscape of --Everything--

[alpine trail]

People will eat dogshit on a plate and remain happy

[raven hull]

why hire people on the merits of their work

when we can hire them purely for gender or skin colour

[alpine trail]

If it includes amazing looking cosmetics, they will cope

[raven hull]

[alpine trail]

realest shit

its quite sad

[raven hull]

whats more fucked is that view is seen as alt right

like wtf

HOW

You hire someone to do a JOB so they need to be hired based on SKILL

not some arbitrary thing such as gender or race

so fucked

[alpine trail]

play in traffic

anyways

[sonic marlin]

100 and I'll make it for ya

[alpine trail]

then do it yourself you skid

imagine hopping into an aim training discord asking for someone to write "simple scripts" for you

peabrained ass

[raven hull]

bro is called skill issue its quite clear hes trolling

[alpine trail]

hahahaha

but where was I, cuz I was gonna reply to one of you

[raven hull]

lol

[alpine trail]

yeah no I don't quite understand it myself, people love making anything and everything into some form of politics

if I have to be honest, mental illness

and also on a more business related approach, its way easier to hire just anyone rather than actual talented developers who need equally the same amount of pay for their work

its unfortunate, but people like you and I are powerless to change that

[raven hull]

that seems to be working well for Disney

[alpine trail]

xd

[raven hull]

and we dare voice concerns about it only to be called racist...like damn

there goes any chance of a civil conversation

[alpine trail]

oh it always trails into that or just simply being aggro'd on because you have different views than the other person who, for whatever reason, may jump on you like a rabid dog

these days that happens more frequently than I'd like to admit

[arctic violet]

dude the funny thing is they believe every m&k player is faide and can do whatever movement tech every time and consistently

or jitter aim any time u shoot, those guys are the apotheosis or ridiculous

[alpine trail]

they're also the same streamers who complain about the config users, only to use those scripts themselves!

[ashen trench]

steam configs that they use for that shit wont work next update

[empty thistle]

Any idea on the avg skill of the r5 1v1 servers in eu? Not sure if a 1.1-1.2 kd there is decent or not

[lapis moat]

eu? probably dia-master until someone good logs on

kd doesnt really matter tbh

[twilit flicker]

ignore kd just play for practice

or fun

[mental ridge]

sounds racists and sexist to me...

[wintry cypress]

REAL

been saying this, this world isnt made for weak people but we made it a place for weak people

[wintry cypress]

it is what it is bro its just the state of our shitty society these days

i just wanna go back to the 80s, 90s 00s

people actually seemed normal back then lol

[mental ridge]

back then beeing normal was good ... nowaydays its disrespectful

[wintry cypress]

yeah quite weird tbh

[mental ridge]

People care too much about the weak and wanna set them on the same level as strong people but not in a way that helps the weak but targets the strong

[raven hull]

[wintry cypress]

watch us all get banned from voltaic now

[charred plank]

https://tenor.com/view/dnce-gif-14762310134329663850

[wintry cypress]

https://tenor.com/view/ishowspeed-disgust-disappointed-gif-25068572

[mental ridge]

its racist and sexist until youre a white biological man thats hetero

[raven hull]

it would actually be insane if that happened.

I mean arguably we havent said anything wrong.

Can't wait for someone to read that and pin me as alt right or something despite me being left

[wintry cypress]

idk ive heard friends of mine get banned for stupid shit before so i wouldnt be surprised

[devout tusk]

People just want 0 accountability for anything its not about protecting anyone

[mental ridge]

ofc we are probably all white cis men so we are the enemy based or your gender sex and sexuality

[light rapids]

even if they came out with another installment of qukae
i dont think it would gain significant traction
its just mechanically too demanding for the average casual that needs to be spoonfed to kills to have fun

most maps are still kinda garbage tho

[lapis moat]

no ones playing a new quake lmao the skill gap would be so wide it insta dies in 2 months

have we not learnt from reflex/diabotical

[light rapids]

its over for mnk fps (that are not tac fps)

[twilit flicker]

if only tac fps wasnt so boring

[light rapids]

its a real shame 😔

[light rapids]

what was different back when arena shooters were popular

[lapis moat]

people wanted to git gud

less causals

u needed to be a real ass nerd to play games back then

no matchmaking too so you could just get gigastomped by a good player

and people would just want to get better after getting owned

spent 500 hours in tf2 growing up getting shit on and just wanted to improve

[light rapids]

how comes some people still think that way nowadays
but most dont

[lapis moat]

cuz gaming is popular now but you still got all the real nerds (this server) and causals

why modern gaming sucks is that the experience is rigged against the nerds

aim assist/sbmm/eomm/game balance in non comp games are all designed to make it so the nerd cant smurf on people

[light rapids]

😔 🚬

[lapis moat]

nerds are statistical outliers that makes the game devs job harder, its harder for them to design an expected game experience when there is a massive skill and knowledge gap in the lobby

[light rapids]

how did a casual comp game like valorant gain such a huge following
cuz like isnt the whole point of valorant to get better and reach higher rank
and for some reasons casuals seem to like it

[lapis moat]

val gets away with it by being easier to pick up (low mechanics requirement)

and the game is marketed as a mnk only comp game, so that filters out a bunch of people already

no console gamer dads complaining about no AA in val

[light rapids]

tbh i find it very hard to pick up cuz of all the unreadable abilities
and guns dont shoot where you point the crosshair at

(if you spray)

[lapis moat]

yea but fights are won usually by literally looking at the right angle (very easy to understand)

[light rapids]

true true

[lapis moat]

gaming is cooked basically fps is gonna die in the next 5 years

but it wont be dying for a lack of players

it will die from a lack of good games

[light rapids]

isnt the lack of good games caused by the lack of good players that want to get invested in games

[lapis moat]

causals simply outweigh all of us so there will be no games that are made for high level mechanic skills for mnk

no money in us

why make another quake for maybe 5k players (at launch, dies in2 months) when you can make another cod for millions

[light rapids]

i would literally pay a monthly subscription fee if they fixed apex
and made it into the game i want it to be

[lapis moat]

yea but they can keep apex like this and have 300 people like you pay as much for skins

meanwhile if they made apex good 200 of those 300 quit

[twilit flicker]

people are stupid enough to support this company

[light rapids]

apex is the only game that really keeps me occupied for prolonged periods of time
everytime a new cod drops, i buy it, grind for the mastery camo
and never touch it again
same with bf and stuff
its just kind of a filler game for when im getting shafted too hard by sbmm in apex

[lapis moat]

this is why i only play r5 lmao

the causal mnk experience is unbelievably cooked its so bad

[light rapids]

well im getting shafted even more on there

[lapis moat]

i have a friend on mnk whos gold level and the game is literally unplayable for her

[light rapids]

not so much since eu servers are alive again

but its still very very exhausting

[twilit flicker]

nah guys lets give them 300 for an event

[light rapids]

us was something different tho holy

thats gotta be like the top 0.01 % that played there

[lapis moat]

its actually worse for her than its for me

[light rapids]

never got rolled that hard in my life before

[lapis moat]

karma is usually like t2 controller levels

so its hard on there (good practice)

eu is like dia/master until someone good logs on

jp is literally pubs tier

[light rapids]

what

for real?

[lapis moat]

like in game yea probably there most people r kinda bad

unless one of the tier 2 mnk guys log on and then it gets real

[light rapids]

how comes that

[lapis moat]

promo trials are so bad for casuals its crazy

and sbmm affects her just as much as i do, get 1 good game and the next few becomes impossible for her

[light rapids]

hmm i never really gave ranked a chance so i cant comment on that xD

[lapis moat]

i can shoot my way out of a sweat lobby

she cant

[light rapids]

yeah that sounds awful

[lapis moat]

and before i can play with her by smurfing in low elo

or old pubs

[raven hull]

promo trials outside of 3 stacking is horrendous

[lapis moat]

now i’m on a gold acc and we are getting put in master lobbies

[raven hull]

its a coinflip if you pass

[lapis moat]

cuz i have high sbmm

[light rapids]

pubs before s18

[lapis moat]

yep

8kdr down to a 5

so awesome ty respawn

[light rapids]

whatever they did back then
literally cut the time in half that i spend playing apex

that shit actually got me back into grinding kovaaks again

made me really insecure about myself and my skills not even kidding

getting gaslighted by the game

[raven hull]

i've put almost 9 hours into aim beast this week and like 20mins on apex

thats the state im in atm

i enjoy aimbeast FAR more

[light rapids]

only time im playing apex atm is 1v1ing friends in the range

didnt play pubs since they forced that stupid sword bullshit for trios

[raven hull]

i still play that mode but the sword is giga cringe

[light rapids]

only played it a few times
but i got like no guides or playlists on aimbeast

so i went back to the 'vaaks

[raven hull]

I asked Tsu as they are a Aimbeast main. Just do the all the ranked benches apart from CIS aimers

[light rapids]

gahdamn 2022

[raven hull]

and look for the Yami tracking playlist

apparently thats all you really need as the benches feel harder than kvks ones anyway

[light rapids]

🫡

[raven hull]

It also feels like it runs better than kvks as well

like the bot is more "trackable" it isnt such a smeary mess

[light rapids]

like in terms of what exactly

[light rapids]

ah

hmm

i never noticed the kovaaks bot being hard to follow

but i dont really got anything to compare it so

[raven hull]

it could easily be my settings tbh

[light rapids]

so

[raven hull]

but i have no clue what would be causing it

so i dont know how if fix it lol

[light rapids]

im still playing on default settings

[raven hull]

i need to uninstall Aimlabs tho, its just waste of space on my drives

[light rapids]

regarding the environment at least

cleaned up the ui a bit and removed gunmodel and edited crosshair and stuff

[raven hull]

Aimlabs Ui is abhorrent, looks like it was designed by someone without eyes

[light rapids]

does it really take that much space tho

[light rapids]

ye its a disgrace to look at
and using it isnt much better either

main menu theme is kind of a bop tho

[charred plank]

hi fatboi, whats up

[light rapids]

hello splashoui, not much

wbu

[arctic violet]

nah extesyy has now a scroll wheel on pad😂

[twilit flicker]

just play mnk at that point

[raven hull]

what is this unholy abomination

[devout tusk]

im literally hardstuck gold 1 cause i have to play vs 3 stacking algs players

glad tekken came out

[lapis moat]

got ran down by a 3 stack and turns out they are triple pred in my gold 2 game while my friend was silver 2

so awesome

legit my bad for being too goated

[devout tusk]

like im not even performing well in those lobbies but the game is like

nah

ive seen you pop off once

so youre locked in

all i wanted was to hotdrop skulltown in pubs for the rest of my life

[charred plank]

im good thanks, u working hard or hardly working?

[light rapids]

hardly working

im not a great asset to the company 😔

not giving it all for the benefit of the shareholders

[charred plank]

when they will kick you out for hanging out in Voltaic Discord server during your workhours?

[light rapids]

they havent noticed yet

idk like i got my deadlines to meet
i meet them
so why should they care how i achieve that

[charred plank]

https://tenor.com/view/dnce-gif-14762310134329663850

if they are not controlling well, then its their problem xD

[light rapids]

and what do they provide 3 monitors for if youre not supposed to use one for discord

🤔

[charred plank]

l0l

i was starting late and finishing early, i still got highest performance in the review, now changing company for better salary lol

[light rapids]

yeah changing company gives a much higher payrise than just staying loyal to one company

gonna do that too at some point

[empty thistle]

current ranked system is beyond fucked

idk what they were on when they thought mmr matchmaking was a good idea but I want some of it

[charred plank]

companies are not loyal to me, why i should be 😦 like boyfriends..

https://tenor.com/view/dancing-duck-dance-duck-duck-ooontz-dance-gif-10943740227711557279

[mortal hatch]

they’re bringing back the reactive flatline

we r so back

[weak aurora]

Guys why is voltaic rank so hard. I’m gold complete and almost all plat and some diamond scores. Is that even considered good?

[mortal hatch]

yeah

it’s supposed to be hard

the various scenarios at #resources can help you with the key things you’re missing

there’s only a handful of people above Grandmaster, which makes being incredibly good quite rewarding

@lapis moat himself got vouched by DZ Zer0, he’s Nova ranked

[weak aurora]

I’m just honestly surprised how hard it is. Do we know what the average rank is of voltaic players?

[mortal hatch]

you can use s-rolecount “rank” in #commands

it counts everyone in this server who has submitted a rank verification request

[weak aurora]

I’d love to 1vs1 him in apex to see how good one can be lmao

[mortal hatch]

you can just look at his VODs tbf

[sonic marlin]

Theres only 140 people with the gm role

[mortal hatch]

[empty thistle]

from what I've heard jade is when u start to be able to consistently aim diff other mnk ppl in pubs in most fps

[light rapids]

for 160$?

[weak aurora]

I thought my aim was pretty good, this just gave me a reality check

[empty thistle]

either I need to research movment tech or theres a ton of ppl using configs in r5

beaming me while doing that circle neo strafe shit

from what I understood you couldnt look in one direction constantly whiule doing that legit

[mortal hatch]

ye iirc

i want it regardless i want a noisy flatline

[light rapids]

i aint paying that tho

[mortal hatch]

u can report cfg abusers here

me and @toxic saddle ban them from our r5 servers

[weak aurora]

U can do it, I think. It’s called ras strafing. Idk about neo strafing and shit

I think its still possible though but could be wrong

[lapis moat]

very few are cfgs, most of them are legit

[twilit flicker]

u can

[lapis moat]

https://x.com/dokiww/status/1715692776745251100?s=46&t=YgEf-6HRatFp33CnDRgSzA heres a random old vid

DOKI (@dokiww) on X

demo tapes, vol.7 (2023, C-stock)

"wait... you're mnk?"

#ApexLegends

Twitter · Oct 21, 2023, 11:33 AM

[mortal hatch]

@weak aurora check this out

[empty thistle]

Time to research movement tech more ig

[twilit flicker]

its just lurch strafing

[lapis moat]

cba learning 131

[mortal hatch]

131 is cool but what do u need it for

[lapis moat]

also not that worth at the end of the day unless ur the maybe 3 people that lurch correctly and have the aim for it

[twilit flicker]

so u can ads while lurching

[mortal hatch]

ah makes sense

[light rapids]

there are lots of people tho that wont be able to hit YOU if youre lurching

[weak aurora]

Thats actually pretty good

[twilit flicker]

what do u think about ras and yuki strafing without bhopping

[lapis moat]

yea but it will also be very hard for me to aim + some players will have the braincells to aim at lurches better than strafes

ras is pretty shit now, the accel is too slow, yuki is one of the few movement techs with high value

thats why i tried learning it, very powerful especially when used to peek

[twilit flicker]

nah ras is fine u just gotta do them wide

[light rapids]

and i guess its fun to be good at something that 99.99% of apex players arent very invested in

[lapis moat]

in my head the only movement techs worth learning

superglides, fatigue bounce, yuki, pito maybe occasionally (only works on shitters)

probably not pito its pretty bad

actually

[twilit flicker]

pito is so ass without speed boost

[lapis moat]

and superglide into yuki has good value too

[twilit flicker]

ye that one always fucks up people

[lapis moat]

like just the less readable it is the better

if i literally cannot see it happening or even predict it its good (jump into ras i can very much see, yukis literally not possible to see)

[torn oyster]

All I need is wallbounce redirect.
Anything else is just extra.

Flashy for no reason.

Or wallbounce "tapstrafe"
To avoid climbing walls.

[raven hull]

????? WHERE

TELL ME

AT ONCE

[mortal hatch]

https://twitter.com/Osvaldatore/status/1752330852745240682

Osvaldatore (@Osvaldatore) on X

Reactive Flatline Recolor coming in Season 20

Twitter · Jan 30, 2024, 2:00 PM

[twilit flicker]

people gonna buy it 💀

[mortal hatch]

me me me me me

[raven hull]

aint no way they would make that mistake again right

RIGHT?

it will be the fucking ugly red one they showed before

but still the model itself is sexy af

[arctic violet]

u have too much faith in them😂

[raven hull]

i have 10k crafting mats saved up

now i dunno what to use them on

i was gonna use it on the oct / hound loom recolour

but that flatline is tempting me a bit more

[raven hull]

ill neck myself if they do ((im just looking for an excuse))

[arctic violet]

i own both recolor and i don't even use them

[raven hull]

I still think that if i paid for a BP i should be able to complete it whenever, maybe not get the xp boost parts of it or w/e

but the rewards shouldnt be timelocked

[arctic violet]

true

[raven hull]

maybe im just too pro consumer or something

i didnt complete s4 as i burnt myself out solo q grinding ranked in s3

my biggest regret in apex ngl

i use the flatline a fair bit and those reactive are so good

[light rapids]

[raven hull]

surely they learnt from the PK

SURELY

actually we have proof

if they tried it again people would absolutely melt them on social media because they literally PROMISED they wouldnt do it again

not that a promise from respawn or EA carries any value what so ever....

[alpine trail]

we can have all the proof we want that they said they wouldn't ever do xyz ever again and look where we end up anyways

its EA

they're running a business model, not a game

the dumbasses with wallets to burn will still buy cosmetics, and EA will still have fat ass pockets

why would they need to fix the game when casuals and people who make bank spend money and play their game anyway? lol

[alpine trail]

everything you've said is absolutely true, unfortunately good players get outweighed by the casual side of any playerbase, and it sucks honestly

[raven hull]

Its sad because it almost feels like aimtraining is wasted time if the whole fps landscape dies. And it really feels like it will unless something can come along. Luckily i somewhat enjoy the progress system with VT and Aimbeast anyway so that will keep it going for now.

[alpine trail]

yes!

[raven hull]

maybe ill succumb and play Overwatch again

[alpine trail]

speaking of aim training and also apex, I honestly feel like Apex is one of the only games where none of my tracking actually transfers over and thats obviously due to lack of any playtime/hours ingame, and its like fuck, I want to play the damn game but I'd rather not go into pubs or ranked

I think I should just accept that I'm not interested in playing Apex at all at this point lol

[frail kiln]

Zer0 was saying that r5 is more important than Kovaaks the other day

and he's been grinding both for years (?)

[raven hull]

specifically for apex, sure

general mouse control and technique training. An aim trainer will always be better

r5 is mega tilting at times who

[mortal hatch]

specifically for apex yea

[alpine trail]

I legitimately find grinding scores on an aim trainer is more appealing than playing apex at all xd

[mortal hatch]

r5 can teach u strafes

[raven hull]

when you get b2b2b2b 1 clipped by some 40% brainlet

[alpine trail]

yes strafing/dodging is important

[mortal hatch]

could be positioning / util usage?

[raven hull]

same, rn im big into aimbeast and im enjoying getting scores

[mortal hatch]

once u get out of bot lobbies those things start to matter more

and also rotates

[raven hull]

i actually want to try grinding the next ranked season

but ill need a team

[alpine trail]

yeah, I just play pubs all day, so I'm also not focusing on improving, raw aim in that game isn't everything, but I have significantly worse mechanics than I would in something like Quake

[raven hull]

i dont have the mental fortitude for solo q

i can manage like 3 solo q games and im done

[mortal hatch]

could be map knowledge as well mz

[alpine trail]

true

[mortal hatch]

i dunno why but i never rly felt like i improved mechanically despite the hours in the game

not till i actually bothered to learn about the POIs

“oh there’s a door here, oh there’s a bin here, ohhh cool passage”

[weak aurora]

Apex is also just pretty hard compared to other games. The legends are pretty small and move fast

[raven hull]

yeah PoI knowledge is huge

[alpine trail]

I'd also love to grind the movement out to be able to actually get around faster in both fights and the map, but its insanely hard to learn movement that can also be automated through scripts/cfgs so there isn't any point anyway

[raven hull]

can give you insane positional advantages

[mortal hatch]

im gonna grind pred week1 then go back to pro league

[raven hull]

[alpine trail]

indeed

[mortal hatch]

play scrims ez

but scrims r, well, sweaty

fun if u have a team

[alpine trail]

obviously, if I had a team of decent players I'd probably only ever scrim

[weak aurora]

I signed up for cc

[alpine trail]

fuck pubs

[weak aurora]

For saturday

[alpine trail]

and ranked for that matter

[mortal hatch]

nice glhf

[weak aurora]

I’m going to algs boys

[raven hull]

most movement is useless above like diamond because people can aim. And the rollers are competent.

[alpine trail]

hf gl

[raven hull]

all the flashy shit only works on casuals

[mortal hatch]

I wouldn’t say fatigue and wallbounce is useless

it helps w rotates 100%

[raven hull]

oh no i dont mean those

[mortal hatch]

oh like the flashier stuff?

[raven hull]

those i would consider like core mechanics

i mean the flashy stuff

[mortal hatch]

yeah they’re kinda useless

below dia

just strafe and aim better

don’t int a 1v2

if u peek and see 3 ppl staring, don’t repeek

fundamental micro like that

[raven hull]

No, i think i will

[alpine trail]

lmao

[raven hull]

have to show them im not afraid of them

[mortal hatch]

[raven hull]

[mortal hatch]

u can repeek but at least throw a nade

[alpine trail]

establishing dominance fr

[mortal hatch]

three guys holding the same angle at once

banger nade incoming

[raven hull]

and holding hands

maybe even kissing a bit

like homies do

[alpine trail]

banger nade in the making

[mortal hatch]

fr fr

[alpine trail]

true asf homies do be kissin

[mortal hatch]

unironically that’s how non-wattson teams get shit on in PL

when u don’t have the leverage of space it’s just joever

horizon and cat can only push ppl out for so long

the moment the nade spam starts it’s joever

[frail kiln]

some of these pro league guys are just insane with their sky nades

Timmy comes to mind

[mortal hatch]

shoutout my goat Bangalore and her Rolling Thunder

great for countering aggressive teams

[raven hull]

bangalore is pretty goated

[mortal hatch]

pointless if you get pushed inside a building however

and they have digi

haha glhf

[raven hull]

Yeah it can be greif if you havent found one

pop a smoke to protect your team

and you all get beamed

lol

[mortal hatch]

bronzey told me unironically to hop into valorant or other similar games to learn how to smoke better in apex

and tbh he’s cooking with it

[raven hull]

yeah thats not a bad shout tbh

smokes are more important in those games

so you would get a better sense of how to use them

However, counterpoint. You have to play Val

[mortal hatch]

TS is also highly underrated in apex

like it’s not COD I get that

[raven hull]

Tracking and switching are the only things i do in trainers. clicking can get ligma

[mortal hatch]

but snapping into angles to gather and recheck information is nice

[raven hull]

i really want to train rn but im worried ive fucked up my tendon only 2 months after my injection that fixed it

[mortal hatch]

Attempt in moderation

[raven hull]

just randomly started hurting this morning, im hoping its actually muscle fatigue from the gym yesterday

we will see tomorrow

[mortal hatch]

probably just fatigue

rest well

[raven hull]

we can only hope

ill pray to darwin or something, to evolve my arm

thats how it works right

[alpine trail]

you understand my pain

[mortal hatch]

no

[alpine trail]

rest well bro

[mortal hatch]

just stay and be healthy

[raven hull]

clicking is straight up the worst set of scenarios

[mortal hatch]

but the dots

and the 30-30

[alpine trail]

lmfao

[mortal hatch]

and bocek

and wingman

[raven hull]

i dunno, im already pretty deadly with ther 3030 and bocek

[mortal hatch]

and burst prowler (more of a tracking thing but u get it)

what abt hipfire 30-30!

clicking go brrr

[raven hull]

ive probably hit more shots than ive missed with hipfire 3030

that thing is stupid accurate

[mortal hatch]

Temporary Maintenance for R5R servers for SG and AU

Applying latest Dedicated Server Build

[mortal hatch]

true that’s why the G7 fell off

(i could b wrong)

[raven hull]

yeah g7 feels horrible to use now

[mortal hatch]

(correct me if I am)

[raven hull]

i swear it had the best hipfire in the game. period

like better than the r9

but it feels ass now

i dont read patchnotes so they may have nerfed it

[mortal hatch]

they nerfed it cuz it was too broken and now it’s the dirty 30

[raven hull]

just no reason to pick it over the 30

[mortal hatch]

yeah they did kill it a few patches ago

30-30 has SP too

juicy

[raven hull]

[mortal hatch]

and most ppl also run with a Hemlok/CAR

[raven hull]

skull piercer my beloved

[mortal hatch]

ammo economy favoring heavy

[raven hull]

the 30 is so satifying as well

[mortal hatch]

but any weapon is broken in the hands of a skilled user

it’s just a matter of eliminating the variations of randomness

[raven hull]

valid, wattson did a p2020 challenge and was beating people with r9's lol

[mortal hatch]

yep

if you drop landslide and you can only find a senti then well just roll w it

[raven hull]

mande did the mozam, but lowkey the mozam slaps

[mortal hatch]

mozam aight but terrible range and dps i think

stiffie better

i need to recheck the weapon stats man

i might be yapping

[raven hull]

mozam has a lot of spread but its funny when you hit someone at like 100m+ with one of the pellets

it may take you like 4 mags to get a single hit

but its still funny when it happens

[mortal hatch]

fair

i used to use the CAR for long range when i just wanna poke but im running a Neme low on energy

deplete those shield cells guys 🔥

[raven hull]

exactly

[mortal hatch]

then mfw it’s a wattson or conduit or loba team

aight nvm my g

[raven hull]

sorry for existing in the same game you guys

my bad'

i pretty much exclusively play conduit in ranked now because i dont trust my randoms to actually drop any cells

so i will BE the cell

[mortal hatch]

lol

conduit is gud if you don’t trust your teammates

you force them to play around you

[frail kiln]

still convinced conduit is completely broken in ranked

shes also just the god of winning contest

[weak aurora]

Conduit is busted

[frail kiln]

I switched back to Catalyst though, wall too OP

[mortal hatch]

yeah she is

[weak aurora]

Even if u crack one, he gets queued and when u push they full health

[mortal hatch]

conduit late game scaling kinda shit

esp w open end rings

[frail kiln]

her ult is mid mid mid

[mortal hatch]

cat wall does more than conduit ult

wait lemme upload my vod

from APACN ALGS

[frail kiln]

ye but it's nice having her for shield economy even late game though

[mortal hatch]

nvm it’s on the bird app

[frail kiln]

I just felt like so many late games are straight unwinnable without wall

[mortal hatch]

https://x.com/rexulili/status/1751551450692661351

VT rexulili (@rexulili) on X

WHAT JUST HAPPENED!? APAC NORTH!? #ALGS
@Sneakyfrogcasts @ApacSouthHub @PULVEREX

Twitter · Jan 28, 2024, 10:23 AM

13 teams final ring i think

have to recheck VOD

[frail kiln]

my ranked games been feeling like this ngl 😔🥀

[mortal hatch]

one of the rare cases where conduit ult would actually be more useful than cat wall

or maybe if the team on low ground saved the cat wall for later

the newcastle team won

[frail kiln]

assuming someone just doesn't break conduit ult with 1mag before it even pops

[mortal hatch]

w all the chaos probably impossible

that’s still 9 squads alive

prio will be to shoot the guy in front of you

not the ult

[frail kiln]

that's actually an absurd screenshot lmao

[mortal hatch]

also just realized

wattson genny (see the building)

ate a lot of nades and throwables

so depending on range conduit ult might be ineffective (wattson genny eats that too right?)

[frail kiln]

look at the range on that gen 💪

I think it does?

I mean it eats bang ult

[raven hull]

and gibby ult

[mortal hatch]

i have to double confirm I don’t wanna yap lmao

[raven hull]

[mortal hatch]

the genny ate one of the many horizon ults

and many many arc stars

funny af

[mortal hatch]

gibby is chilling in offmeta

[raven hull]

[weak aurora]

Knowing how strong aim assist does that discourages you guys from improving on mnk?

[raven hull]

nope

not one bit

[mortal hatch]

nope

mnk dominant region apacs da goat

[weak aurora]

Blackhand?

[mortal hatch]

Legends Gaming (ex-BLVKHVND) ye

is just one of the many

APACS is triple MnK mostly

[weak aurora]

Right

So it’s just a skill issue

[mortal hatch]

there's also better rollers in other region

[raven hull]

if it helps im EU and i dont feel like Rollers put me off getting better at MnK

[mortal hatch]

at least that's what i assumed from what StrafingFlame told me yesterday

[raven hull]

why would someone else put me off improving myself

[weak aurora]

Im eu too

[mortal hatch]

W

[weak aurora]

Feel like I can’t improve anymore

And have to switch to roller to compete

As a fragger

[raven hull]

what loses you your fights

have you vod reviewed yourself?

can you honestly say you have done everything and you are at your peak?

if not you are just looking for an excuse to take the easy way out

not flaming you by any means, just giving some perspective.

[weak aurora]

I’m just whiffing I guess

Apex is mostly teamwork but as in damagewise I cannt keep up

[mortal hatch]

this is from APAC-S
Z1CKKY, JackieChan, EZFlash, ASIAXD, Bellkun are all MnK

[weak aurora]

I have to hit a perfect spray 150+ damage just to even it out

[mortal hatch]

obv better placements = more kills

but its all up the individual

always up to the individual

[raven hull]

eh high damage numbers dont mean you played the best. You can easily farm damage on downed people or from pointless long range poke

if your 300 damage won the 3v3 then its good damage

[frail kiln]

i-its not pointless, I'm farming armor

[raven hull]

[weak aurora]

I’m actually talking about 3vs3 for example. My team and I do 3vs3 with other scrim teams. And I cannot keep up with rollers, will lose the 1vs1 almost always : (

[mortal hatch]

i think that might b the problem

don't 1v1 in scrims

no leverage, no opportunity, not a fight worth taking

could also just be plain mechanics diff

see doki rolling rollers on r5

[weak aurora]

Yeah I guess,

[weak aurora]

Idk I think he’d lose vs my controller teammate. Or maybe he is just way way better than me

[raven hull]

are your friends T1 roller pros?

if not then doki would probably win

[mortal hatch]

i think u might be underestimating someone who got Zer0's vouch and someone who has coached Pro League players

https://apexlegendsstatus.com/algs/Y4-Split1/Pro-League/NA/Overview#tab-statsPlayers

Zer0 leading here

and our very own HisWattson is also der

[weak aurora]

Lol no not even close. But theynre firing range warrios

I’m talking about purely mechanical

[mortal hatch]

yeah doki constantly ranks 1 on r5r

[weak aurora]

I’m pretty sure doki is better than us in terms of position , game sense

[mortal hatch]

you can check on https://r5r.dev

[weak aurora]

To play r5 you need apex on origin right?

Doesn’t work with steam correct?

[raven hull]

ish

you just need it in your library on origin

you dont need the game downloaded

[weak aurora]

Anyways I gtg, I’d still wanna 1vs1 doki haha

[mortal hatch]

jesus christ the amount of ppl i need to ask to be wiped from the tracker

some ppl r straight off just padding their scores

[raven hull]

thats cringe#

but this is r5r so i guess id expect it

its just one big hog measuring contest

[mortal hatch]

it's meant for practice and learning

ignorant people just keep learning how to ruin things instead of actually learning

[raven hull]

i dont even want to know my kd

its probably horrendous

[raven hull]

@mortal hatch I know you arent a mod but do you know if its possible for my nickname to be changed on the server or is that something thats not allowed?

[mortal hatch]

i can't even change my own name

hope that helps

[raven hull]

[mortal hatch]

probly a good idea to limit permissions on a server of this scale

everyone would get silly super fast

also lots of people love impersonating VT

[raven hull]

Yeah it makes sense it would be locked down by default. Just wasnt sure if there was a way i could request it. Its not a big deal i was just curious

[mortal hatch]

you can always just change it on discord

and adjust everywhere else

[raven hull]

[wet skiff]

What is the accuracy diff of MNK vs controller on avg?

[mortal hatch]

i can be extra silly and change my nickname on PL

but i probly wont

[mortal hatch]

see table

10% ish

[wet skiff]

that's insane

10% better than some of the best aimers in the world

[raven hull]

strangely headshot acc is basically the same

[mortal hatch]

bear in mind R5R is a relatively small sample size

[raven hull]

but arguably the best sample size

[mortal hatch]

best not to jump to conclusions

[raven hull]

due the caliber of players

[wet skiff]

It is, but even as a small sample size it's a good example because it's mostly high tier players

[mortal hatch]

also some servers run diff configurations of AA

example, JP runs lower AA

R5JP also feeds data to the tracker

[raven hull]

Common JP W

[mortal hatch]

it's bad prac

for comp at least

[wet skiff]

I wonder what % aa would lead to the controller players having roughly same accuracy as MNK

because 10% is.. like that's fucking massive.

[raven hull]

true but at the same time, nothing tilts me more than playing r5 and getting 1 clipped b2b2b by a roller

[wet skiff]

that's like a plat player vs a GM player level difference

[raven hull]

doesnt even give me a chance to practice

im just dead

[mortal hatch]

IBMM should prevent u getting matched w a roller

just put wait 5 or smthing

on the console

also we plan on launching develish things soon

by we i meant them

MnK-only servers for example

for the more populated regions

[raven hull]

[wet skiff]

sec actually I'm curious.

If we're talking a scenario like aimlabs pill or axitrack, how big of a score diff would 10% accuracy actually be?

is that like plat vs masters? Or bigger/smaller?

[torn oyster]

What's gap between top 5 and 50

[mortal hatch]

Controller: https://r5r.dev/leaderboard.php?type=kills_with_controller&sub_type=kd_ratio
MnK:https://r5r.dev/leaderboard.php?type=kills_with_mkb&sub_type=kd_ratio

Sorted first by Most kills, sorted second by KD Ratio

See data for yourself

it's very small, and not every pro will use it

hence why I'm rly keen on saying, don't derive assumptions from the data

sample size too smol

also lots of variance

on the server populations

MnK top 100 Kills when sorted by KD
Top 50 guy has 1.14 KD 30.12% accuracy

In controller, the Top 50 guy has 1.55 KD 39.43% accuracy

MnK first

bear in mind

e24 roller guy has 15.5 more hours than blake

[weak aurora]

Whaaat plexez and jsavaw are there hahaha

Plexez my homiee

No way

[mortal hatch]

what are they cooking https://x.com/gameinformer/status/1752376242924384536

Game Informer (@gameinformer) on X

🔥 COVER REVEAL 🔥

#ApexLegends continues to enamor players every day, which is why we jumped at the opportunity to visit Respawn's studio in Vancouver, Canada, to dive deep into the game's history and play its next big update. https://t.co/jv920cTUJP

Twitter · Jan 30, 2024, 5:00 PM

[raven hull]

have you guys seen how dry s20 is gonna be on release lol

its comes with nothing other than tweaks

its basically just a mid season patch but probably contains even less

if the leaks are to be believed - i should add

[main merlin]

I hope something since apex in huge lul rn

[toxic saddle]

@mortal hatch looking forward to r5r season 2. we should be able to sort leaderboard by server (awesome for tournaments and events) and by region

[mortal hatch]

u should check out R5R secret channel

we're

kinda on fire

rn

[radiant ridge]

some of the autoexecs people run are wild. ordnanceSwapSelectCooldown

like, huh? why would this be something you could set to a different value?

it's like CS:GO config placebo but worse

[raven hull]

it probably does nothing anyway

thats literally all it is

[toxic saddle]

will check later ^^

[raven hull]

back in s0 you could auto exec a ton of stuff. Turning off bang smoke was the most egregious example

[mortal hatch]

Do not use Wine 9 for R5R S2

but i think ur running windows so ur chilling

[mortal hatch]

dis yeah

[toxic saddle]

yeah saw it. im on windows

[mortal hatch]

s-sensrange

[frozen narwhal]

Sensitivity Guidelines based on aiming style:
Tracking: 20-40 cm / 360°
Click-timing: 30-60 cm / 360°
Complete/KovaaK: 25-35 cm / 360°
Separate hip-fire sensitivities may allow flexibility with these ranges.

[mortal hatch]

see also https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=uPkYc84GrSc @ripe lance

hope it helps

[twilit flicker]

why does it say 14 days left on the firing range

what are they cooking

[raven hull]

14 days till the game ends forever

enjoy the firing range while you can

[mortal hatch]

SG and AU R5R Servers are back online. SG is running on the latest Alpha build. AU is the same as usual.

[alpine trail]

S20 could suck I’m still gonna play it

[mortal hatch]

amogus 1v1 will be applied soon on SG servers

is now applied

have fun

[strange canyon]

That's so goofy lol

I think I tried it once

Don't remember

[mortal hatch]

haha ik but would b fun

i also want ppl to try out the latest alpha r5r server build

[strange canyon]

😀👍

[quaint karma]

how do you subsort on the r5 leaderboard @mortal hatch

[mortal hatch]

i just click on the headers

[toxic saddle]

also testing the alpha dev release on the EU 1v1 Dev.test Server. (no tracker atm, should be added soon)

[quaint karma]

yeah nvm im dumb i forgot

[arctic violet]

they really put again three strike with tsaa bug?

[twilit flicker]

gazzillion dollar company

[rotund rivet]

im hoping for a rework to crypto and bloodhound

and maybe make the catalyst goo back to 3 <3

theirs content creator like DAZS that have a more constructive and methodical approach in apex

also makes scenarios in Aim Labs

honestly for apex get used to fighting. I started dropping on 1 squad then a few then contesting for hot drops because yes

[ashen trench]

ok three strikes is ok

[rotund rivet]

are people still doing the lifeline conduit newcastle thing

[ashen trench]

ehidk didnt notice it

[rotund rivet]

find a duo or even a trio.

[empty thistle]

my approach has been grinding r5 1v1's + kovaaks for fighting, watch YT vids for gamesense help

[empty thistle]

https://r5reloaded.com/

[worn sparrow]

i swear some people have the biggest fixed mindset thinking they cannot improve because the "competition is much better"

[worn sparrow]

holy fuck i have been so bad with the r9 lately

[mental ridge]

thats r5r

r5apex.exe is literally normal apex

[frail kiln]

damn r5 is fucking hard

[dull falcon]

ITS EZ

[mental ridge]

try r5r

[frail kiln]

I was getting pissed on 😂

it's fun though but it's obvious I haven't the slightest clue how movement can be used in Apex

[dull falcon]

peak gameplay

[mortal hatch]

the sun

[junior wraith]

I did that one purpose! :D

Fun way to end a clip! :D

[icy isle]

what's new ?

[hollow anchor]

my buddy is trying out apex hes brand new we went into an orientation match and literally people just stand still and look at you lmao these players are literal toddlers its so interesting to watch them

[icy isle]

aren't those filled with bots ?

[arctic violet]

ye

[junior wraith]

They're filled with bots!

[hollow anchor]

ah

[junior wraith]

Ya!

[icy isle]

https://tenor.com/view/starfox-melee-faiah-dash-dance-gif-13867212

[charred plank]

Btw

https://twitter.com/Osvaldatore/status/1752421431093211410

Osvaldatore (@Osvaldatore) on X

Armor Update

• All armor removed from ground loot

• Deathboxes: (for example) if you have LV2 and you swap into LV3, 75 HP are healed while 25 HP will be temporary

• Legend Perks: when you upgrade your armor, you get to choose 1 out of 2 Perks to keep for the rest of the match

Twitter · Jan 30, 2024, 8:00 PM

[toxic magnet]

who’s ready for everyone’s flatline skin to return

[raven hull]

ikr, i cannot wait

[arctic violet]

y'all still getting excited for a skin, really?

[raven hull]

Its free so why not

Apex is nothing but L's atm we need to try and take a win here and there or find something to keep us interested

[charred plank]

Apex trying to make players happy with flatline skin

[raven hull]

Im so high on copium that its gonna work

[onyx linden]

Anyone want to play in the algs challenger circuit for the badge? Just make sure you hit the entry requirements. I dont care if you are bad. Here is my team link: https://battlefy.com/apex-legends-global-series-year-4/invite?inviteCode=ZboqWedaKiHpRKN_IiY4Q

[mental ridge]

wich region ?

[onyx linden]

Eu

[toxic magnet]

i have the original i’m just happy for others that get it

[onyx linden]

We have only a few hours left to sign up and I need 3 people

[mental ridge]

when are the games?

how many hours left?

[onyx linden]

https://twitter.com/PlayApexEsports/status/1752421674350199116

Apex Legends Esports (@PlayApexEsports) on X

⚠️Registration for the first #ALGS Challenger Circuit for EMEA, NA and APAC regions will close in less than 24 hours.‼️

Tournaments start on February 3rd.

🖋️Register today by heading to https://t.co/QViK9tfBZW

Twitter · Jan 30, 2024, 8:01 PM

Tournament starts on February 3rd, 2024 - 11:00 PM +03

[arctic violet]

apex player when they put a mode with the same bug and a free reactive skin, so happyy🤓

[raven hull]

You mean you dont like your game looking like someone smeared Vaseline all over your monitor?

[arctic violet]

that's not vaseline dude

[raven hull]

https://tenor.com/view/this-is-my-kingdom-cum-cumming-nutting-fail-bursting-gif-23625735

[onyx linden]

I need 1 more player to join for us to join the challenger circuit.

Any takers 👀 I don't care about your rank.

[civic roost]

💥 💥 💥 💥

get nuked

[raven hull]

bro got hit with the Biden Blast

[alpine trail]

Anyone having problem with three strikes? Every time I drop on apex changed my visual settings. It turns on adaptive resolution fps target to 59

[raven hull]

Yep

thats 3 strikes for you

its been like that since the first time it came out

[alpine trail]

I’ve tried updating my drivers; setting my video config file as read only and it still happens. Also verified my steam files. Might have to reinstall. I didn’t get this the last three strikes event

[raven hull]

just have to manually change it back each time you spawn

it happened with the last event

its a known thing

[alpine trail]

Yeah that’s what I have been doing it’s just annoying

[raven hull]

Well sorry to tell you, but theres no way to fix it

just how the gamemode is. Certified respawn moment

[arctic violet]

uninstall can fix it

[alpine trail]

I’ll try it; my internet is fast so shouldn’t take long to get back in

[arctic violet]

no i meant uninstall it forever😂

[nova girder]

real shit

[alpine trail]

I figured you did but I couldn’t do that. I don’t think they could ever drive me away. It would give me a chance to try Rust though. I’m a one game and only play that until I don’t anymore gamer

[raven hull]

you are probably tensing us while tracking people

its a common thing, just try and be concious of it and relax your arm

[radiant ridge]

i didn't realize i was tensing up until i checked a VOD and saw how jerky i was

in general, recording your gameplay will help you identify things a lot quicker than post-action memory

[unborn token]

mnk or roller?

[junior glacier]

Why nvidia reflex on + boost make my sensitivity feel faster than nvidia reflex disable ?

[unborn token]

what input r you on

[unborn token]

bc you have the setting where legends like octane affect sens

[grim geyser]

i mean there is a lot of reactivity in it depends how used you are on it

are you using higher sens ?

probably thats why

[craggy granite]

people still play this game?

[weak aurora]

whats yourrank in val and cs?

[wet skiff]

I don't think it's that. Like I'm improving all the time, but no matter how much I practice I cannot match aim assist's zero latency tracking through directional changes

[arctic violet]

you can't and no one can't, even top celestial aimer can't

[worn sparrow]

Oh I wasn't referring to that at all

There's just players that cry the matchmaking is so unfair and that's why they're stuck and they believe they cannot practice to get better despite others being good

[wet skiff]

I know... that's my point.

[worn sparrow]

Like others being good is the reason they're using thinking they can't get better

Aa rotational tracking is too good vs having to react

[wet skiff]

oh, yea. I get that. But I also understand the complaints a little. Like playing against a 3 stack of pros is just pointless if you are solo qeueing. Imo that's a failure of matchmaker, it's not a fight you are ever going to have a real chance at winning.

If masters+ was forced solo queue it'd be one thing, but as long as 3 stacking exists in ranked imo it's just never going to be feel fair

[worn sparrow]

Yeah I do believe there is a problem with matchmaking no doubts

Do hope they actually make it like one of the past seasons

[wet skiff]

Yea the current system is def awful. I would love to see a forced solo queue ranked at one point, though

[worn sparrow]

Would definitely be interesting to see

But could also divide up queue times heavily

[wet skiff]

probably not really possible, it would split the playerbase a ton and there are a ton of complaints from pros because they don't have anywhere to 3 stack, but I think it would be a lot more fair in general

[arctic violet]

i don't think that will never happen, like half of time when i soloq no one do comms, is unbelievable

[wet skiff]

yea because people are fucking toxic. I never join comms in an FPS game because listening to someone tell me "nice throw" after I literally carried them through the entire game is beyond tilting.

Actually had that in a finals game I soloed through once, didn't realize I was in voice chat till the end.

I literally killed 3 squads, back to back, had almost 20 kills, and we lost the OBJ because I went for a defib on a downed teammate, assuming my other teammate(who was right next to the obj) was going to watch it. Instead, he jumped down beside me for some reason and someone from a fresh respawn team just walked up and capped it for free

but he has the audacity to tell ME nice throw when I played absolutely flawlessly the entire game and going for the defib there was the right play because the other guy could watch the OBJ for literally 5 seconds

ik it shouldn't affect me but that shit destroys my mental so I just don't join voip anymore because dogshit players are almost universally toxic as fuck so there's just no point in even trying to communicate with them. It's better to just play your own game and not coordinate than to try and coordinate with people who have such ridiculous egos and are toxic on top of it

[junior glacier]

I lock my fov scaling. I ask about nvidia reflex not fov scaling bro.

[unborn token]

could be both

maybe yr pc shit idk

[junior glacier]

4070 is shit okay

[wet skiff]

nvidia reflex should be set to on or on+boost depending on if you are CPU/GPU limited. Mostly you will always want on+boost which is best for CPU limited situations.

best you can do is be CPU limited then set fps cap slightly below that for most stable frames/input latency. But for uncapped FPS you want to be CPU limted as that will minimize input latency while maximizing FPS

[arctic violet]

that's so true

[hallow pawn]

why the boost part

just on is enough

no need for it to boost to 2.8ghz in the lobby

[wet skiff]

?

[hallow pawn]

boost just makes it run at max speed all the time

it boosts when it needs to boost anyway

by default

it can help a tiny bit with stability if your gpu is underutilized and dropping clocks often

but other than that it's just dumping heat into the case

[wet skiff]

You want it on all the time because boosting only when you need it means it'll be a few frames late constantly which causes more input lag, since it's a reactive thing instead of proactive.

If boost didn't help it wouldn't exist as an option

[hallow pawn]

it boosts when you need it automatically

that's how it always worked

it drops clocks to save on power when the workload isn't demanding enough

[wet skiff]

I'm not gonna keep arguing, but it boosts reactively which is not good for gaming.

Gaming constantly swaps between low workload and max workload so you can get stutters or inconsistency if you arent keeping your stuff clocked at max during games.

[hallow pawn]

and many people have poor cooling solutions so it's best to not default to the boosting mode if its not needed

[wet skiff]

Every single low latency guide will always tell you to unpark your cores and not rely on auto boosts and to do it manually.

[devout tusk]

It doesnt know when you need it til it needs it so its still reactive lol

[wet skiff]

Because doing that reduces input latency and leads to more stable framerate.

[devout tusk]

Unparking cores is op

Or disabling cstates

Op electric bill too

[hallow pawn]

tell that who has a Dell optiplex with a poor cooling solution

[wet skiff]

I will because that's still the correct way to optimize for low latency.

[hallow pawn]

alright

[mortal hatch]

Good morning Ugnius

@hallow pawn

how’s the 8 hours of retail apex

[hallow pawn]

:FeelsBocchiMan:

Hello and how and why are you awake at this late at night

[mortal hatch]

singing

trying to live a life

[hallow pawn]

nice

[hallow pawn]

one way to stay sane

[civic roost]

ahjahbdhgibabreo8dy23o87r7tg213q8o76rt132qorif98972q3

[hallow pawn]

ok

[strange canyon]

Now that 3 strikes is back the game is fun again

[arctic violet]

"people that quit after 1st death"

[twilit flicker]

roller tap strafing removed???

[frail kiln]

gnaske Zer0 1v1 has me in tears

[junior wraith]

Boom!!!!

[ashen trench]

uh

think my dev friend

just confirmed configs arent gonna work

and tstrafe is gone rn for roller

in online matches

[frail kiln]

this guy is usually pretty good with his leaks no?

[civic roost]

ive heard theyre adding neymar as a champion next seasonm

[wet skiff]

Doesn't really sound like something they would do tbh because that hurts bad players who can't do damage

And people who like to loot all game instead of fight

[frail kiln]

I'm not completely opposed to this change

I do think it removes some skill expression though, I get that

[arctic violet]

don't understand why they don't communicate thpse things

[frail kiln]

yeah it's such insane PR for them

Valve-esque

just two dudes doing dev work in a closet and one of them tries to moonlight as social media manager

[ashen trench]

it probably will be in patch notes

some roller players CFGs arent working at all now

its rolling slowly i think

[arctic violet]

hope so

[alpine trail]

YES

big step in the right direction

"levelling the playing field"

controller players love using this rhetoric

[wet skiff]

of course they think that's it

they're so used to having their aim automated it's only natural that other stuff being automated feels like leveling the playing field to them

[arctic violet]

Twitter is full of braindeads

[alpine trail]

im having way too much fun right now

the amount of cope, its insane

[wet skiff]

In their defense, controller should be allowed to tap strafe, it's pretty wild that controller doesn't have lurch as a mechanic.

it just shouldn't be fucking automated.

controller should also be able to move while looting; but again... not automated

I absolutely agree those are fundamental failures on respawns end.

However, their aim should also not be automated >:]

[alpine trail]

that wouldn't work the way you think it would

if they truly wanted "tap strafe" to be universally viable by both inputs, they would have to make air accel the way it is in CS

or CPMA q3

otherwise you're just doing what steam cfgs would do in order for controller players to tap strafe automatically

[wet skiff]

not at all, just bind "w" to right button or something they can spam it

[alpine trail]

?

that still wouldn't work though imo

my point being, they're on analog sticks

[wet skiff]

yea but the actual "lurch" is usually just a "w" input that's timed

[alpine trail]

it'd just be silly

[half salmon]

@lapis moat this is the best thing ive ever woken up to

[lapis moat]

0.25 next? please?

[half salmon]

https://tenor.com/view/crunch-cat-luna-eat-gif-3997701764820700221

0.25
fix roller jitter aim
implement r6 mousetrap for xim

game good

[lapis moat]

r5 with no rotational my god turbofarming all these nerds with 0 effort

[half salmon]

what will the casuals accuse legit movement players of now?

macros?

cheats?

[charred plank]

all tap strafes and config movements gone

https://twitter.com/Respawn/status/1752851828130341315

Respawn (@Respawn) on X

Heads up, legends. We've been rolling out some changes to @PlayApex to better protect the game's competitive integrity.

We are making changes to remove automated strafing on controller and will also be making changes to prevent the chaining of cfg files via the +exec command…

Twitter · Feb 1, 2024, 12:30 AM

https://tenor.com/view/cat-dance-gif-25818512

[alpine trail]

thank FUCK

a very good step in the right direction

rotational just needs to be removed and we'll be all good

[lapis moat]

https://x.com/iisyx_/status/1752863755661144460?s=46&t=YgEf-6HRatFp33CnDRgSzA @half salmon

SyX (@iiSyX_) on X

@dokiww Tap strafing being removed wasn't enough for your dogshit ass holy fuck

Twitter · Feb 1, 2024, 1:17 AM

nahhhhhh

[alpine trail]

fun fact

[half salmon]

LETS GOOOO

[lapis moat]

when i’m playing mnk my brain is lightyears ahead of the controller player

they should be honored that i would even interact with these creatures

[astral nebula]

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=dLhPDD9MBTM

yes bish

fck rewasd/cfg/script users

gonna see so much apex youtuber having worse aim/movement 😂

[half salmon]

cant wait for extesyy's next video bro!!!

[astral nebula]

see few of em alr stopped making "MoVeM3Nt" content lmao

[half salmon]

BEST controller alc settings for... AIM

and no recoil

[sonic marlin]

Mfers still gonna make those vids

[astral nebula]

A..x , f43 lmao

[charred plank]

a guy just made a video 15 hours ago 😦 he could not know bro... all his effort gone..

[half salmon]

LMAOOO

i mean only tap strafe isnt working rn

xim still plaguing ranked

[dull falcon]

Already baiting ppl

[astral nebula]

Cry

[dull falcon]

Legioncoc

[mental ridge]

ahahaha all.the controller players coping that their infinitly spamming 8 directional tabstrafe configs are too much that even the devs removed them

i swear to god the devs couldn't care less about a wspam config to tabstrafe or the wa wd spam configs back in the day but if its better than mnks 5 directional tabstrafing then finally they listend

[wicked river]

https://twitter.com/xxfartlordxx/status/1752865320681762850?t=hh-KwxUBwhGFBWcvN0DKLg&s=19

AAH fartlord (@xxfartlordxx) on X

for anyone who wants the full timeline of lohnr's discord ever since the patch

Twitter · Feb 1, 2024, 1:23 AM

😍

Still not reinstalling

[warped lake]

Joined just to say I'm back playing mnk

I noticed I was rolling lobbies...

Because roller cfg's are banned 😂

ahhhh i'm so happy

No more controller coping

[astral nebula]

Yea lobby is easier so many “bot” like player that cant shoot

😂

[warped lake]

They can shoot, but roller players are nothing without their CFG's

I'm in love with apex until the shield changes

Gonna have to cope with that

[sonic marlin]

Why tf is everyone on the EU 1v1 server on 100 ping or more

[mental ridge]

i literally switched to mnk coz i couldnt get myself to use wasd configs on roller and w spam got boring

like 2 months ago im so happy

[astral nebula]

Yea but not with 95% accuracy

Especially when close combating a-d spam

[warped lake]

Yeah I just don't take those fights

Or I just 1v1 console players lol

[astral nebula]

Cfg/scrpit also eliminate recoil afaik

[warped lake]

I think respawn is looking into those

But I'm satisfied for now.

[astral nebula]

Yea

Tried it last night with rewasd ban and it was a blast