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dull falcon
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Not really impressive

frail kiln
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bc its not

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well the movement is good, but like it's just shotgun lol

unborn token
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it doesnt matter what input he is on

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you could give the kid a fucking switch controller and blind fold him and he would still do shit like that

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bro learns like 70 times faster than anyone here

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even when he doesnt do shit

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and combine that with his work ethic and you have the future of apex

dull falcon
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Like all other children

raven hull
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wtaf

dull falcon
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Yeah

raven hull
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i wasnt even sentient at 10

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tbh i wasnt sentient till i was 22 or so...

unborn token
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massive 1 pt pb

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frrrrrrrrrrrr

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I AM THE FUCKING BEEEEEEEEEEEEEST

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( meme scenario )

worn bloom
dull falcon
unborn token
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his tracking isnt the best

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but he is just a prodigy

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i doubt anyone would do that first try on mnk

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tbh

gleaming willow
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I can go roller and beat him any day of the week

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when he is roller

young pine
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prodigy is kinda crazy to call him right?

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isn't he like 13?

unborn token
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he is 10

unborn token
young pine
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oh. yeah he is a prodigy then

dull falcon
gleaming willow
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^

worn bloom
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He hit his mantle jumps and did superglides at every angle lol

young pine
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i mean he's the generation that needs to play mnk. its the kids that start young like him that are gonna challenge controller when they get older

worn bloom
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For someone who doesnt play MNK that seems pretty good

young pine
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if he just becomes a controller player its kinda wasted potential

dull falcon
unborn token
frail kiln
dull falcon
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so sad

unborn token
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F

dull falcon
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i remember when he had us in a chokehold

dull falcon
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If you've watched Apex Legend's Professional Play / ALGS, you'll have noticed the dominance of one team in particular - BLVKHVND. Their underdog roster dropped HIGH kill games once they got into the groove of it, taking out big names like TSM, XSET, DarkZero, and everything else inbetween. But How did they do it? Let's break it down and get into...

โ–ถ Play video
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new wraithcrw vid

young pine
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they just hugged watson gen and played to not die the whole event

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perfect counter to bang meta

dull falcon
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i didnt get to watch them at all

young pine
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strafing is getting really good at igl. they were on the same page at all times

frail kiln
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I didn't even realize they were playing Bang Cat Watson

tepid glen
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anyone have payday 3

dull falcon
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nope

wintry cypress
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Saw funny payday 3 meme today

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Looks kinda cool but never been a payday player

wet stratus
frail kiln
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Still definitely saw a lot of Fuse and Horizon tbf**

tepid glen
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bang cat yes

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but not wattson

tepid glen
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i got put in a console lobby

raven hull
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holy shit my aim is so bad tonight

unborn token
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will surely get above 1.193 right

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will surely get 1.2k on ring guesser

edgy crane
gleaming willow
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do yall only 3 stack pubs?

wintry cypress
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I guess cluedin

unborn token
unborn token
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It's been like this for 3 and half hrs so now they r pubing ig

edgy crane
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and rayn isnt diamond

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so we cant play ranked with him

gleaming willow
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ah I see

unborn token
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guessed 8 zones in a row

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gahdamn im the goat

unborn token
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internet is fucking killing it self it wont upload most likely

lethal wraith
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that's because of kovaak update

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that score is probably gonezo 4Head

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leaderboards are not up

unborn token
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๐Ÿ˜ญ

lethal wraith
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that shit GONE

unborn token
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MAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAN

worn bloom
dull falcon
alpine trail
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Man i swear hitmarkers off is so nice

worn bloom
# dull falcon Ye ill still take a wooting

Lmao imma be honest, I've never liked any razer products. All their mice felt weird to me but I've heard good things about the Huntsman keyboard. We'll have to see what the reviews say

worn bloom
alpine trail
unborn token
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Razer pretty over rated at this lt

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Pt

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Some of their shit is ass

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They fixing stuff w their mice now

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Real

dull falcon
tepid glen
unborn token
dull falcon
unborn token
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Tmrw

dull falcon
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input?

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r5

quaint karma
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you can tell

dull falcon
dull falcon
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who this @quaint karma he says im supposed to know him

gentle slate
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ratting to diamond be bronze area be good if we have to clutch tomarrow dm me nae pref be co opperative

tepid glen
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no

mystic crystal
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mmr in pubs is so weak now

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like I'm going against bronze players lol

tepid glen
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ive just been playing mixtape

dull falcon
tepid glen
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i'm about to get off

dull falcon
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ok

tepid glen
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mixtape players are not real

quaint karma
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.15 AA

dull falcon
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je conprend pas

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@quaint karma do you know who frapper is

gusty pendant
gusty pendant
quaint karma
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weird

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i had no issues

tepid glen
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The punch at the end

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Lmao

gusty pendant
quaint karma
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so am i

gusty pendant
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oh then nvm

half salmon
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or china server

torn oyster
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i need a new game i think....18 110 battlepasses

half salmon
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my wrists are aching

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ugh

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arm aiming today

surreal bough
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bro idk if im washed or what

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but im getting fucking 1 mag'd by everyone in control/tdm

half salmon
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controller

torn oyster
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renon i was just thinking the same thing

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i was going like

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8-19

surreal bough
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Ya its insane

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i think most people are playingthe new game mode though

torn oyster
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the skulls are literally a scan legend on any legend

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i used it to track an octane with an r3

spice swift
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instead of hidden master mmr

ashen trench
wary star
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all those kovaaks hours payed off

raven hull
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what the fuck did i just watch, ive not played the new trios mode yet but that was cursed

wary star
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it is not real that they think

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this is ok

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even if it's pubs and a game mode

wintry cypress
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why do you even have so many KEKW

little verge
wary star
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i carry minimum 5 at all times

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and i just spam them in their general direction

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and they can't kill all of them since aim assist probably doesn't lock on on them

light rapids
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hunter killer drone on apex legends?

wary star
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this is what i deal with when i am saying i don't get guns in buildings

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wait wrong clip

wintry cypress
wintry cypress
wintry cypress
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They made rev skulls into grenades

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And they track mfs down

tepid glen
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My aim wasn't the best but it feels worse now

light rapids
tepid glen
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Plus my kovaaks scores are also worse

wary star
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i am no filling

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i thought i would grace this randoms with my presence

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but these randoms are special ed

wintry cypress
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I think you still just toss the skulls as fuse tho

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Instead of shooting them with your launcher

wary star
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i literally split off so that this wouldn't happen

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and they still do this

light rapids
wintry cypress
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Lmaooo

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Where did he even come from

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Didnt even see him on your screen till you went into the building

gleaming willow
worn bloom
# wary star

Yeah I would've left lmao. Bro R99/Eva and a Bat off drop. I wouldve been sickk

neat igloo
wintry cypress
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Its just as bad when youre splitting off ur mate when dropping and then 2 enemies land on the same door as you

tepid glen
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I think I have it recorded

wintry cypress
torn oyster
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honestly ping diff

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idk what to tell you

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just hit E

unborn token
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gaming

wintry cypress
unborn token
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gamiiing

raven hull
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hes built different

torn oyster
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just loot brother

wintry cypress
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tbh i only got landed on the same door

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so i had to go somewhere else

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for loot

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never had to competitively spam e

torn oyster
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i highly avoid landing next to / on to someone.
chances are youll die before you get anywhere

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relocate instantly.

i swear nobody looks at the minimap. ill have teamates who are like "i didnt see them"

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(full 3 arrows heading in same direction)

unborn token
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rng run idk it didnt feel any better

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gaming

dull falcon
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@unborn token send me yr go to playlist

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Needa snipe some of your scores

unborn token
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KovaaKsBouncingSilverBunnyhop

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go ahead @dull falcon

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id like some competition

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โค๏ธ

torn oyster
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settings so low it looks like its drawn

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ive never actually looked at what no TSB looked like

tepid glen
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i jus saw a vid of the halloween skins

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they look pretty nice

dull falcon
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I will not spend money unless its a reactive r99

tepid glen
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Do you have the s7 ones?

torn oyster
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1/3 r9 skins that matter

raven hull
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i have zero point but i dont like it

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well its the irons i dont like

tepid glen
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I didn't spend money when I first started the game so I don't have that one

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I don't think the irons are that bad

raven hull
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and the r9 reactive is up there as one of the worst imo

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irons are good but the skins are both ass

tepid glen
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I think the black reactive one is the best r99 skin

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Either way I always put a 1x on it so the irons don't bother me mucb

wintry cypress
torn oyster
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w

wintry cypress
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And then my friend is like WHERE ARE YOU GOINNGGG

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HEELPPPP

unborn token
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might get gm at sm pt

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i pb soon fr

frail kiln
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trombone

half salmon
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WORLDS EDGE RANKED???

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YOOOOO

wary star
half salmon
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the fuck happened to recolors

raven hull
edgy crane
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Tahts the reason

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I mean they prob make smth, not alot cus who fucks doesnt have legend token

lethal wraith
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pretty sure it's bugged, I saw them earlier today

edgy crane
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Yeah prob

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It will be insta fixed

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Dw

frail kiln
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Steam metrics don't track anyone playing from console right?

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I don't see why there can't be MnK only queue

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think I'm just going insane at this point, on some Don Quixote shit

devout tusk
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its cause there would have to be a crossplay only queue which wouldnt have enough players, so either console or pc has to take the L and be the crossplay lobby

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oh i thought you said pc only, theres def not enough mnk players anymore for their own queue when you consider sbmm and region differences

frail kiln
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need a new game because I swear to God way more than half the games I die I see someone standing still next to my deathbox and doing that r-slurred slow motion 180 that only 3-3 is capable of

devout tusk
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im waiting on the finals

frail kiln
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I have like 7k hours in CSGO I WANNA MOVE AND SHOOT SOMETIMES

devout tusk
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i had a lotta fun in the beta for that

frail kiln
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my homie sent me a clip of that the other day, seems like it really could be fun w/ a stack to play with

devout tusk
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theres a lot of potential for it to be really fun but i also see how it will probably turn into a really frustrating meta once people start to figure the game out

dull falcon
devout tusk
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launch will be fun af at least im sure

frail kiln
devout tusk
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the tachiomi icon

frail kiln
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real

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not me spending an entire day in bed reading Prison School off my phone :>

dull falcon
frail kiln
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watcha reading

dull falcon
frail kiln
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that's based

dull falcon
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Cultivation / dungeon

frail kiln
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I'm a sensitive young male with a penchant for shitty romance too I understand

little verge
hallow blade
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oh yaki youre still here its not completely doomed

frail kiln
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Even with an onslaught of sweats I really enjoyed Battlebit

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gameplay loop is just kinda boring for me

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I need stakes

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there's no rollercoaster of emotion otherwise

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what even is the point of playing games if not to fulfill some competitive drive... 5 hours into my persona5 playthrough btw

worn bloom
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Ppl hyping up Battlebit acting like its something new when Battlefield 1 and 5 have similar gameplay but better and actual graphics lol

devout tusk
little verge
devout tusk
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but if everyone is on grapple character it will be super fun

hallow blade
frail kiln
hallow blade
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im unbanned after a year and 8 months LMAO

worn bloom
# frail kiln I need stakes

I feel this. FN is fun but its not fun like it was back than just because it feels too casual. Like its not a serious competitive game anymore. Maybe I would need to play ranked builds but I aint trying to learn how to build again blanket

frail kiln
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t. guy who played a decent amount of Battlefield before finding BBit in beta

little verge
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Ah, fair enough. I mean I just aim train and play BF2042 for constant fights but that's about it.

worn bloom
wintry cypress
worn bloom
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The Roblox graphics arent it

frail kiln
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true

little verge
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I would rather just play BF or ARMA/Squad than Battlebit. Just feels like some weird halfway point between the two.

worn bloom
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And like I said, ppl should go back to the older Battlefields for arcadey fun. They're actually solid AF

little verge
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I swear if DICE somehow fucks up this next game lol

wintry cypress
devout tusk
frail kiln
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At this point I'm just ranting

wintry cypress
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I want a close range map with outplayability but there really arent many

worn bloom
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Wait did Gfycat shutdown? Sadge there goes a bunch of my clips

frail kiln
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but like there was probably like a year of MnK dominated Apex right?

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I mean the game was out on PC first

wintry cypress
frail kiln
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my dumbass was playing League of fucking legends

little verge
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Zavod is about as close to that as possible, but it does have a lot of annoying verticality too.

wintry cypress
frail kiln
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I just feel like I missed out on Fortnite and Apex in their best years

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not even talking about some nostalgia shit

wintry cypress
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At least i got to experience apex

little verge
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Apex S1-5 were goated

wintry cypress
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Facts

dull falcon
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What went wrong

wintry cypress
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Season 3 was amazing

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Season 2 with solos

dull falcon
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Why so much controllers now all of a sudden

devout tusk
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i started seeing a lot in 4 and 5

little verge
# dull falcon What went wrong

We didn't have cross play and didn't have any understanding of how the rotational worked until we had people deep dive on its mechanics.

devout tusk
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people just assumed roller was a meme input like always

frail kiln
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Warzone existed

worn bloom
wintry cypress
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Season 7 was goated too

frail kiln
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and people played on shit like Steady

wintry cypress
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Season 5 and 6 mid

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And afterwards shit started going downhill

devout tusk
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was season 7 horizon

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and olympus

wintry cypress
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Yes

devout tusk
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yeah that was really fun

wintry cypress
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^

frail kiln
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do any of you guys play League?

devout tusk
little verge
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S6 was a nightmare with the PK pellet change and the -25HP Evo and low profile, plus full power volt.

devout tusk
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dipped my toes

frail kiln
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League was so lit if you go back to like season 3-4

devout tusk
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ye i started s3 still probably the most fun ive ever had in a game

frail kiln
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I can't really put my finger on it but they just made the game have way too low of a skill floor

wintry cypress
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Yeah

frail kiln
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I don't think the skill ceiling got lowered or anything

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but idk it's a shame

devout tusk
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they for sure fenced in how you had to play the game

wintry cypress
devout tusk
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like all those weird builds and strats are gone

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like ap tristana mid

worn bloom
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I was heavy into FN 2018-2019 except that one month Apex launched. Didn't come back to it until season 5. Played sparingly until season 8.

little verge
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That's by design. They raised the skill floor until they damn near touched so casuals would stay and retention + live service model means making money off battlepasses and cosmetics.

frail kiln
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Fortnite must be the biggest shame

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like "vanilla" fortnite must've been so fun

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insanely high micro game

wintry cypress
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Its just weird why they chose to baby the players with aim assist, campy characters and even the -25hp evo shield change

devout tusk
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it got a lot less fun to me when they added keystone masteries and then even more when they got rid of runes for the new system. made playing wierd stuff so much weaker

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i used to love playing like adc soraka with friends in normals

frail kiln
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I had a dream I got proxied by a Protoss player last night in Starcraft and I started crying

devout tusk
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or crit damage shako

frail kiln
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I haven't played Starcraft in like 9 years

worn bloom
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FN 2018 when everyone was playing it was the funniest time in gaming. I remember my entire friend list on PS4 was playing it. What a time to be alive

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And this was before ppl really started learning building mechanics and changed up the game

wintry cypress
devout tusk
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thats it

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i got into poe when covid started and it was bad

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like 20 hour sessions lmao

little verge
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I liked Fortnite when it catered to my slow boomer brain and double ramp was the most intensive build wars got unless someone set up a base over the match duration.

frail kiln
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Covid was actually my favorite gaming era

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simply because every night we'd have 15 people on discord

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and run 10 mans constantly

devout tusk
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my friends all got depressed and didnt game after the first 2 weeks lmfao

frail kiln
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CS/LoL it was fire

devout tusk
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and now they talk about it so fondly

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like "man gaming all day back then was so fun"

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like you didnt even do that

little verge
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Man fuck COVID era I was too tired and sore after work to enjoy games.

frail kiln
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Legitimately had like months of just programming in the afternoon and gaming/programming all night until I head the birds chirping I loved it

wintry cypress
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Every day after online classes wed play assetto corsa, then after id play kovaaks and then apex/csgo, my ass was GRINDING

frail kiln
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I'm just out here yearning for an era of gaming that feels like it's long since gone

worn bloom
wintry cypress
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Fr man

frail kiln
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kinda reminds me of when I found the Smash Bros documentary and picked up melee

wintry cypress
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First centering and smoothness as warmup, then hour long reactivity playlist, then hour long static playlist ๐Ÿ’€

frail kiln
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I only really stumbled into Voltaic this year when I was trying to figure out how to get people for an ESEA team

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the regulars in this discord are all EU tho tbf

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(for CSGO)

worn bloom
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(for Apex)

frail kiln
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actually true though

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wtf

devout tusk
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and oce

frail kiln
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NA really is just console

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and roller

wintry cypress
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LMAO

worn bloom
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๐ŸŽฎ dominates NA unfortunately

frail kiln
devout tusk
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we are a dying breed

frail kiln
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depressed again

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thanks guys

wintry cypress
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Bro even before MM was fucked, id play on NA servers once and theres like 3x the amount of roller players

frail kiln
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My coworker says a new quake is coming

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and I'm pretty sure she actually knows someone working on it

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will that save FPS?

worn bloom
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I want to make my Steam name 'roller = dev team aims for you' I seen a streamer have that too lol. Lets start a movement

wintry cypress
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I was about to make my steam name "the roman empire" smh

worn bloom
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Nah. Arena FPS games need to change up the formula like Halo did back in the day

frail kiln
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I'm actually so close to just starting some 2 subscriber schizo aim assist hate YouTube channel

worn bloom
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I think an Arena FPS with Apex mechaics would be dope AF

devout tusk
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afps are too hard

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simple facts

devout tusk
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there was nothing wrong with dbt

wintry cypress
devout tusk
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and it died instantly

worn bloom
frail kiln
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It all stems from NA

wintry cypress
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Quake is fr hard af tho

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If only apex had like 10 gamemodes

frail kiln
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unpopular opinion but I genuinely think so much of culture is downstream from America in general

wintry cypress
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Id nolife it

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What kind of culture

frail kiln
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I just think that AFPS will never have enough publicity without NA viewership

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or playerbase

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and NA likes participation trophies

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and hand holding

devout tusk
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nah what na likes

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is what everyone else is doing

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so if something is too hard

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most wont continue

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then everyone else follows because now that thing is "dead"

frail kiln
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I'm not saying you're wrong

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just being arguumentative/devils advocate

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but like take CSGO for example

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EU likes it, lots of Eastern countries like it

devout tusk
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well na is playing valorant rn lol

frail kiln
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and yet we can't even get a ProLeague in NA anymore

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I reserve my thoughts on Valorant's popularity for another day

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Has Valo even caught on in another region besides NA yet?

devout tusk
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well it was inevitable i think lol, its very accessible compared to cs, and visually pretty

frail kiln
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Id be curious if you took CSGO Faceit/MM daily playerbase and compared to Valorant what the disparity would be

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I think NA just likes it because other regions aren't putting their best talent forward (and will still beat our T1 teams in due time)

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so we have """success"""

worn bloom
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Valorant put on a lot of ppl who didnt play FPS games onto FPS. Launch was filled with a bunch of League players lol. I was dropping 40 every game with bad mechanics

frail kiln
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CS2 won't make waves like that for tacFPS which makes me sad ๐Ÿ˜

wintry cypress
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I mean all the csgo players are gonna transfer

devout tusk
wintry cypress
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Cs is just one of those classic sweat games

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Its so good

worn bloom
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Eh it already averages a milly a day. And they're adding a lot of QOL stuff

wintry cypress
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  • russians are funny af
worn bloom
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Tac FPS games easy to learn, hard to master. You dont really need to be a mechanical freak for them

wintry cypress
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Always people with massive egos calling you all kinds of shit and then theres russians screaming at you

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Truly a csgo experience

frail kiln
wintry cypress
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Got called a hacker plenty of times

frail kiln
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Like what do people in Voltaic even play nowadays

wintry cypress
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Apex legends ChestPain

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Fr tho im playing a ton of everything atm

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Still having fun in apex atm with the current ltm

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Dont know how

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But at least its not ranked ๐Ÿ’€

frail kiln
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I'm still convinced you guys are like MnK refugees at this point

wintry cypress
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Wdym exactly ๐Ÿ˜‚

devout tusk
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its like the japanese internment camps basically

wintry cypress
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That makes me even more confused lmao

devout tusk
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actually more like uyghur re education camps in china

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some have succumb to the controller propaganda ๐Ÿ˜”

wintry cypress
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90% of the playerbase*

devout tusk
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i mean in this chat

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i will never assimilate

frail kiln
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I just feel like you guys would jump ship so fast to a new title

wintry cypress
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Every time someone beams me and i spectate them thinking theyre a good player they just stand still on my deathbox ๐Ÿ’€

frail kiln
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if it ticked off a few boxes

devout tusk
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for sure but the boxes i want ticked off are pretty rare

wintry cypress
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I might migrate to cs2 but even that isnt as satisfying to play as apex

frail kiln
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Its not

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t. recovering CSGO addict

wintry cypress
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I used to be addicted too lol

frail kiln
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My life would be like Groundhog Day if I played in Apex MnK only lobbies

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even with all the bullshit the game has

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obtrusive hud etc etc

wintry cypress
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Yeah but then theyd also have to fix audio, visual clutter and servers

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Oh and matchmaking

frail kiln
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I'd probably be complaining about all that too

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like I know I'm a cynic

wintry cypress
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Yeah same lol

frail kiln
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but I think I have enough self-awareness to say that I'd be like Tyler1 yelling "FIX YOUR FUCKING GAME" after queing the 30th game straight

wintry cypress
#

I was trying to track an octane through my car irons and i just lost him mid track cause of visual clutter and iron sights that block half my screen

wintry cypress
worn bloom
wintry cypress
#

LOL

#

Im starting editing on my next montage tomorrow as well

frail kiln
wintry cypress
#

Aka im interpolating clips all day

worn bloom
#

That intro into me just 1 clipping roller players with perfect reactivity and smoothness EeveeShy So hot

frail kiln
#

everyday I play a few mixtape games with roller before I'm bored as shit

worn bloom
#

Wouldnt that be fire AF?

devout tusk
half salmon
worn bloom
#

I'm spoiling it but I am never satisified with anything I clip lately

#

It will be a long time before I make a montage

wintry cypress
#

Just been hoarding clips lol

frail kiln
#

I just cant stand when I'm watching a montage and they include mixtape clips

#

like cmon man everyone farms in mixtape

worn bloom
#

Watching Zaizen and Kamis montages ruined what I considered clean 1 clips. I need to look like I'm a laser

frail kiln
#

that's like sending clips from CSGO community deathmatch

wintry cypress
frail kiln
#

(people do it, it's still disgusting behavior)

wintry cypress
#

But if i get a clean af beam im still putting it in

half salmon
#

just go into range and ask ur friend to bot strafe

#

boom theres a clip!

worn bloom
# devout tusk i harass all roller sympathisers

I have roller brain, it only makes sense in this roller dominate region but I enjoy seeing myself improve at things I put in work for so I'm glad I didnt. A roller player will never have that feeling and everything they accomplish has an asterisk

frail kiln
#

It doesn't have an asterisk

#

in their eyes

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roller players will still think they're sick 1clipping you

#

did you know you have your whole arm btw?

worn bloom
#

Eh mixtape clips are fine but firing range or R5 ones are not. They're cool for some b-sides tho lol

wintry cypress
#

^

#

As long as theyre still impressive idc

#

Shit gotta be a picture perfect beam tho

worn bloom
#

This was from a year ago too. He's improved since than but he looks so in control of his sprays

#

And I look jittery even when I'm one clipping

raven hull
#

yeah his beams are so crisp

frail kiln
#

I love it.

worn bloom
#

I think the way he adjusts his camera is very smooth.

frail kiln
#

sent to my friend and he immediately responded "why are you complaining about roller again"

#

not realizing

raven hull
#

Hes clueless smh

frail kiln
#

more FPS games need built in motion blur

raven hull
frail kiln
#

LMAO

#

just like take some antihistimines or whatever they're called

#

before gaming

#

I'm onto something here

#

It's like a movie

raven hull
#

take some fexofenadine

frail kiln
#

Dramamine is the one I was thinking of wheeze

raven hull
#

yeah i wasnt sure why you would need to take hayfever medication but i was just going to let you roll with it

#

gotta love how now its the weekend and i have time to play my tendon pain has returned

#

:)

#

:)))

#

and they dont want to give me corisol injections yet

#

even tho ive had this pain on and off for 5 years

wintry cypress
#

Lets implement it with no way to turn it off except with launch commands so console players have to suffer

little verge
#

And make movement more responsive to higher framerates

flint grotto
#

my brother in christ

#

im never coming in here again

worn bloom
# raven hull yeah i wasnt sure why you would need to take hayfever medication but i was just ...

Nah man you got it backwards. What @frail kiln said was correct. Dramamine and diphenhydramine are 1st generation antihistamines that are used OTC for motion sickness because they have anticholinergic effects. Allegra (fexofenadine) is a second generation that would not be effective for motion sickness. Allegra would be the one that would be better used for hay fever because its one of the least sedating antihistamines

worn bloom
#

Fortnite had built in motion blur on console that you couldnt turn off. I swear I switched to PC just becuase of that and I improved so much lol

worn bloom
vague nexus
main merlin
unborn token
#

this is so fucking aids

tepid glen
#

is that scene good

unborn token
#

Ehh

#

Id say it's okay

tepid glen
#

i got 1800 4 times in a row

#

i messed up on the 9th bot

worn bloom
#

Doing Kovaaks while being sleep depri ved is miserable. And my iced cap didnt hit sadge

tepid glen
#

Yeah

worn bloom
#

Yeah idk if its even worth it lol. I gotta wait 3 hours to sleep blanket

dull falcon
#

Mid

worn bloom
#

Tru

devout tusk
main merlin
worn bloom
quaint karma
#

i get the same feelings of accomplishment i got before

#

just gotta have higher standards now

#

thats about it

#

but my standards were always sky high anyways

worn bloom
#

Lol could I just cope a little? Nah I get it. It feels satisfying AF to get one clips even on roller too. And I remember it took me a while to get good on roller when I was playing FN

surreal bough
#

Why can't they just separate inputs

quaint karma
#

i can perfect my mechanics on roller the same way i can on mnk

#

itll just end up being more perfect

#

ig

#

in the end it kinda makes sense for me personally

#

never cared about all the flashy movement stuff and everything

worn bloom
#

But a roller player will never be able to say thats all them, at least not with this aim assist. On FN there was actually (at the time) a big disadvantage to playing roller and big trade offs

quaint karma
#

i cared about shooting my gun and being accurate

#

i can still do that

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and strafing

surreal bough
#

Is nosh going roller

quaint karma
#

ive been on controller for 2 months

surreal bough
#

Oh no

#

He's one of them

worn bloom
#

Nah youre sick, I see your scores high up on all the tracking scenarios

surreal bough
#

How's the beaming going

quaint karma
#

better than i was on mnk

#

far range still lacking a bit

#

but were getting ithere

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i grind mechanics for at least 2h a day so

#

its only a matter of time

surreal bough
#

2 months and better already

#

Sheeesh

quaint karma
#

im the best roller player on r5 outside of some pros and this one dude i saw there yesterday who i had never seen before

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so

#

better than all these people

#

who ive seen play roller

#

on r5

#

for a year

#

๐Ÿ’€

surreal bough
#

Rip

#

You're just like the ceo

quaint karma
#

im speedrunning verhulst mechanics

#

i say this all the time but most roller players are exceptionally complacent

#

and dont grind their aim or anything

#

if you really wanna get better thats just not enough

#

i play kovaaks on roller

#

๐Ÿ—ฃ๏ธ

worn bloom
#

Target reading instantly transferable between roller and mnk. I was better last week when I was on roller than when I picked it up like 5 months ago just because I've been aim training

quaint karma
#

yes

#

i have that going for me

#

i know how to aim without assistance

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i can read any target strafe

#

anyway ive been having fun

#

sp

#

so

#

all that matters ig

worn bloom
#

A lot of ppl on MNK are complacent too. A lot think they have good aim but its really bad

quaint karma
#

on roller you still have the .4 assistance

#

which makes close range (when ads) really easy

worn bloom
quaint karma
#

idk tbh

#

if it was separated id always feel like im playing the easy version of the game

#

in a way

surreal bough
#

@worn bloom i think it'd be dead on MNK at the start but people would for sure come back

#

the game is still one of the best pure high TTK Shooters

worn bloom
#

You would be playing the fair version of the game. Where everybodies skill is their own and nothing is artifical

#

Also like theres ranked and you would finally see where you stand against other MNK players

surreal bough
#

Ya it'd be fun to get beamed by someone and think 'wow he got some nice shots' instead of 'i got in range'

worn bloom
#

IF it was MNK only and you werent top 750 pred than I would say difficulty is just fine

worn bloom
quaint karma
#

i would roll most games mnk only imo

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but thats not a thing so

#

if they ever nerf aim assist and get it to like maybe .25 or some shit

#

it would be fine

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or nerf it way more than that close range

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and have different values for range

#

idk

surreal bough
#

@worn bloom yep true

quaint karma
#

.15 AA you actually feel it a bit but youre doing a lot of the work yourself

worn bloom
quaint karma
#

but long range would be hard as fuck

worn bloom
#

I dont think a number nerf will help much. It needs to be reworked

#

Let me say this. 4 years and so many changes happened. But aim assist has remained the same since DAY 1. All this shit changes, all the broken OP shit, but aim assist is the one thing the devs got right? Give me a fucking break

quaint karma
#

they aint gonna do that

#

this was all like 1 pub fight

#

you can see my range is a bit lackign sometimes

#

or rather like

worn bloom
#

Speculating here but I think they know a number nerf isnt enough and thats why they put out their statement about the aim assist nerf being more difficult than expected. We shall see tho ๐Ÿ™๐Ÿฝ

quaint karma
#

1x is easier than 2x or 3x imo, even within 2x range

worn bloom
#

I feel like you move really well for controller. When I was playing last week I thought it felt awful

quaint karma
#

just takes practice

worn bloom
#

Thats another thing. I probably improved more practicing and working on my strafe than I did my aim lmao

#

And a lot of roller players autopilot that but a roller with a good strafe is a dangerous

quaint karma
#

i realized you can do a lot more with airstrafing than i originally thought

#

cuz i was used to tapstrafing all the time

#

and horizon you might as well be able to tapstrafe

#

her movement is really nice

surreal bough
#

its funny people think MNK has higher aim potential, but I think controller has more

#

Roller has no reaction time to strafing making them have the true 100% accuracy potential

quaint karma
#

anyone who thinks the skill ceiling on mnk (aim wise) is delusional

#

is higher*

#

but i see a lot of roller players make that point

#

or even some mnk players

#

nah man

frail kiln
#

sadge reading this

quaint karma
#

i mean did you think so?

#

maybe at super far range, because you simply cant make the micro adjustments necessary to have crazy recoil control

#

on roller

#

but those ranges are irrelevant

frail kiln
frail kiln
#

but honestly aim assist seems like it's changed over time

ocean flame
#

when i was new to mnk years ago i thought mnk peak would be like aimbot just like these rollers players think now lmao

quaint karma
frail kiln
#

maybe I'm on crack but I don't remember knowing about rotational aim assist playing CoD 10 years ago lol

quaint karma
#

oh nah i didnt know abotu it either

#

but its existed in cod since at least cod 2

#

theres a video on youtube testing all the cods

#

aim assist on cod anyways

#

really hasnt changed at all

frail kiln
#

But you were already insane on MnK no?

quaint karma
#

even though people think so

#

oofc

#

ofc*

frail kiln
#

it might seem like a dumb question

#

but what helped you get better

#

just spamming r5 and pubs?

#

or did you come up with your own training because 2 months is pretty fast imo

quaint karma
#

i play about an hour of r5 1v1s a day

#

and then do about 1 1/2h of r5 running targets at like 9.5 range with reloading set only on kill

#

maxed weapons, no stabilizer

#

whatever weapons i feel like

#

either that or

#

some firing range

#

or kovaaks

#

whatever i feel like

#

but usually 2 to 3h a day

#

of just that

frail kiln
#

do you have an endgoal outside of just getting really good?

#

any pro aspirations lol?

quaint karma
#

perhaps

#

actually going to try playing comp again now

frail kiln
#

well dope, I'm rooting for you

quaint karma
#

but i think that running targets scenario on r5 aimtrainer is goated

#

for learning to shoot at range

#

even on mnk

#

i use it for recoil control mostly

ocean flame
#

how is anyone's relationship w the game healthy enough to do comp these days

frail kiln
#

I really need to practice so much but I'm doing the low IQ approach of spamming games

quaint karma
#

you should also play mixtape

#

i jsut do it all

#

on kovaaks i mostly just play precise tracking

surreal bough
#

Kovaaks is really only useful for some of the super hard scenarios imo

#

standing stationary and shootiung big targets that aren't that particularly hard to hit isnt good for in game practice

frail kiln
#

well my thing is I'm finally trying to remove the low sens crutch I developed playing CS

#

I played like 70cm/360

#

usually even lower sens but that's the highest I could go

quaint karma
#

i think playing precise tracking is invaluable

#

once your reactive skill is high enough

#

like its the best thing you can do for mouse control

#

(or stick control)

frail kiln
#

stick control is real though, as much as I like to shit on roller players

surreal bough
#

Ya precise tracking is one of the best

frail kiln
#

I think midrange is kinda hard to just jump into

#

micro adjustments I'm just not used to

quaint karma
#

on mnk?

#

or roller

#

micro adjustments on roller are hella hard

#

and near impossible u nless you play no deadzone

#

on linear anyways

dull falcon
quaint karma
#

i honestly just play the vdim novice playlist

#

rn

#

i actually played extra controlsphere on roller

#

it was fine

#

but i dont think going that hard is necessary

#

and prediction cancelling far is the goat scenario imo

dull falcon
tepid glen
quaint karma
#

isnt blueetofu the guy people said is like

#

the goat roller on r5

#

i just rolled the fuck out of him

#

he left so hes not in this screenshot but he was in the lobby

tepid glen
#

damn

#

is that you on the top

quaint karma
#

yeah

#

i cant log into my other acc anymore

#

google adds a 0 in front of the country code

#

when trying to confirm its me

#

for some dumb reason

#

so i never get their text

tepid glen
#

damn

quaint karma
#

๐Ÿคจ

lapis moat
#

goat is washed

spice swift
tepid glen
#

kinda feel like getting on apex

#

but at the same time i don't

spice swift
#

I gotta same feeling

#

just finished to play val

#

but sale time I want watch some ytb videos

dull falcon
tepid glen
#

some dude just dmd me to 1v1\

dull falcon
#

Fuck dude

#

Hes mid

#

I wanna 1v1 too

tepid glen
#

lmoa

#

i'm mid

#

ill get on with you

dull falcon
#

We can 1v1 that guy as well

tepid glen
#

alr

dull falcon
#

i dont think ive you added

tepid glen
#

nope

#

1260722107 my steam code

dull falcon
#

my apex isnt on steam

#

my ign is kamiswxrld

tepid glen
#

i sent it

dull falcon
#

@tepid glen

tepid glen
#

yeah

dull falcon
#

i needa restart gaming its acting up

tepid glen
#

alr

dull falcon
#

3 configing rollers

tepid glen
#

that was not fun

spice swift
#

wanna 3 stack boyz ?

#

@tepid glen @dull falcon

tepid glen
#

we already full

spice swift
#

all good

tepid glen
#

i did so bad

main merlin
#

Any fun routines on kovaaks?

devout tusk
#

i feel a pb soon...

dull falcon
tepid glen
#

i got disconnected

#

that's enough apex for today

dull falcon
#

yaaya

tepid glen
#

Nice clip

dull falcon
#

@unborn token thats 1

frail kiln
#

Genburten on MnK is so cracked

#

I love it

dull falcon
#

is he actually playing mnk

#

rnh

hallow blade
#

he plays mnk occasionally

#

atleast he did back when i still played

frail kiln
#

he does from time to time

#

I like watching the vods

dull falcon
#

ik he plays mnk

#

but i never see him do it

limber steppe
#

@oj

alpine trail
#

singapore apex servers so hard

civic roost
#

Any comp players?

lapis moat
#

dont have time to commit to comp but i follow it very closely

civic roost
#

Not commit

#

Just play some scrims and /or cc

half salmon
#

i play scrims from time to time

#

mostly just veryapex or some rsndom scrimcord

raven hull
torn oyster
#

does anyone have a bug guy over at respawn/ea i can contact on twitter

#

or someone who works the trello board

#

@young pine lets avoid topics like that.

rustic valley
#

So I'm interested in learning movement cause I came to the realization that my movement is hot garbage

#

Does anyone know the most common keybinds used for movement players

arctic violet
#

watch xzylas

keen reef
#

scuf controller

#

gamingbeaver custom controller

rustic valley
arctic violet
ashen trench
torn oyster
#

i need the most annoying mid bug fixed bc im tired of dealing with it

ashen trench
#

What one ahahaha

torn oyster
#

w/ recreation steps

#

the club tag bug which adds a fake pre-fix tag to any club you send an invite to

#

and it DOES NOT go away until you either get accepted and leave or get denied

ashen trench
#

Iโ€™ll pass it on

half salmon
#

oh my god im gonna go insane

#

mfs crying abt roller players im just dying to nades 3 games in a row

ashen trench
#

My friend who works there is on holiday like his days off but when heโ€™s back Iโ€™ll dm him

torn oyster
#

๐Ÿ™
suggest adding a time out for requests

#

the only temp fix is to join a club/make one adn leave

ashen trench
#

I also suggested that ballistic have hit sounds

#

But apparently QA couldnโ€™t replicate it

#

But seems to be fixed so I guess they could eventually

torn oyster
#

it adds the tag like an extention of the players name

#

so instead of wawe -> player
its [VTC] wawe -> player

#

ig recreation steps is to make a club on acc 1, set it to request invite only
acc 2 asks to join the club
[in my instance it was a club from another region so it had an additional box for latency or w/e]

and check stats page

ashen trench
#

Screesgotted will dm when I can

half salmon
#

harvester loot got nerfed HARD

#

HOLY FUCK

torn oyster
#

those ss dont really do much but. the recreation steps is what youll want

half salmon
#

middle doesnt have gold weapons anymore

#

this used to spawn gold guns and high tier loot

hallow blade
#

imma be real

#

i never knew that

#

i landed there so much

left dagger
wintry cypress
quaint karma
#

or revenant having basically no hit sounds when his ult is active

#

it baffles me how they managed to break seer

#

and then have the same thing happen on ballistic

ashen trench
#

Yeah idk they said to him they couldnโ€™t replicate it so I then sent them 4 clips of it footage of me and him doing it and they were still so lost

#

Then itโ€™s magically fixed again

#

Afaik

quaint karma
#

maybe they never even broke his shield

half salmon
#

and easily win a contest

quaint karma
#

๐Ÿฅน

ashen trench
half salmon
#

also has rotates to the entire map

ashen trench
half salmon
#

with a balloon

#

now that POI is only for zone teams that want good rotations

#

the loot is absolutely horrible

ashen trench
#

But itโ€™s so off putting when shooting at someone and thereโ€™s no audio

ashen trench
quaint karma
#

yeah

#

fuck revenant

half salmon
#

i mean i guess 50/50ing middle was still viable

#

or is still viable

ashen trench
#

Give me my audio

quaint karma
#

i have another bug pertaining clubs but i cant replicate it rn

half salmon
#

because u still get gold knock or puruple shield

quaint karma
#

but itll probaby happen later on

#

i left my old club, which i was owner of

#

now almost every time i launch the game

ashen trench
#

You can manually report all these in their discord too

#

And cheaters

quaint karma
#

it says i was removed from my old club

ashen trench
#

And they get banned/gone through daily

quaint karma
#

aand i have to ok 2 different prompts

quaint karma
ashen trench
#

They have a discord yea

#

No one seems to know about it

half salmon
#

r u in it?

quaint karma
#

what is it

ashen trench
#

I used to be but might able to find the link

#

Frickers

#

Dmd

distant hill
#

are there any new apex settings/cfgs that help with visibility

spice swift
lethal wraith
#

I had a revenant in his ult run through my thermite and take no damage

#

apparently just immune to fucking nades

#

sometimes gets stuck with arcs, sometimes doesn't

#

ult is very unhealthy for the game imo

#

but then again they released valk seer horizon so

half salmon
#

or reshade

torn oyster
#

welp. this might end poorly

#

having great games up until like top 12 and just getting rolled

#

and then walla. -60, -75

#

-20

half salmon
#

now im trying to climb back up

tepid glen
#

lmao

torn oyster
#

i love hollow man

quaint karma
#

this must be an old clip tho

torn oyster
#

ye its pretty old

#

a month or two i think

#

is first saw it last month

quaint karma
#

yeah i figured it was with the old sbmm

#

before they changed it again recently

main merlin
#

rev is the ultimate cheese 1v1 character but he's ass outside that

little verge
#

On release Horizon, Seer and Valk were so extremely stupid.

#

And peak BH meta was god awful

raven hull
#

i seem to remember horizon being complete garbage on release and only got picked up a few seasons later

#

although that was around the time i quit so my memory is hazy

little verge
#

Horizon was stronger, people just didn't know how to utilize her at first. You could full heal no matter how bad your positioning was because the AD strafe was faster and you got up the lift quickly.

wet stratus
#

can we remove catalyst from the game?

little verge
#

Can't count how many times a Timmy clip would just be abusing Q to full heal and reset.

wet stratus
#

like how is that character allowed

main merlin
#

peak caustic was up there

worn bloom
#

Removing Catalyst would single handedly improve my mixtape expirence 10 fold

frail kiln
#

Cat is so strong

#

probably easier to nerf than horizon

#

look at Horizon even after the nerfs lmao. completely fine

#

I'm really enjoying Bloodhound rn -- such a good crutch having scan for my braindead ass

quaint karma
#

@lethal wraith how are you not lagging

#

i was frozen in place

#

you ddosing the server?

#

๐Ÿคจ

raven hull
lethal wraith
#

no one else was frozen

placid root
lethal wraith
#

well were you getting ping spikes or were you frozen

#

there's a world of difference there

#

my two teammates were dying in the meantime to two other teams so I have no clue 4Head

young pine
distant hill
#

is there a vid

little verge
#

Just make it base spread so you can't use it offensively.

tepid glen
#

i have gotten worse