apex

[dull falcon]

Its not tdm

[jovial hawk]

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=wdk6649qg_Y

[raven hull]

recoil, have you heard of it

[dull falcon]

If you can get kills and ur ma macros is shit and u die early b4 top 10

Ur fault partly

[little verge]

I think the dumbest part of it is they still have the old ranked restrictions so you can't play with equally skilled friends because of rank differences but you can still get trash silvers.

[dull falcon]

I literally play with ppl who take poke fights and wonder why when we rotate late we get gatekept

Happened to me the other day

[jovial hawk]

thanks, its all practice

[young pine]

thats true you have to know when and where to fight in the higher ranks. but i've seen alot of discourse on twitter than too many teams are playing zone. its kinda funny seeing that no matter how people play the same people are gonna bitch either way

[raven hull]

my pk out here speaking german hitting only 9's smh

[grim torrent]

the problem is that if ur not a 3stack sitting in a corner and watching netflix is a better stategy than playing the game

[native sluice]

i told 2 my teammates to not go to one choke because it's getting gatekept and to go to left. they told me "ok" went to that choke, died. I asked them why they went here and they told me "to loot"

[native sluice]

u have to win a lot in a row and only after that system will give u some lp for elim bonus

[dull falcon]

Thats always going to be a thing coordination between 3stacks vs randoms

[native sluice]

like i can get 230 lp for 10kp win after that i get 500 for 9kp win

[dull falcon]

Ita not like it cant be over come by having charisma and good social skills

[native sluice]

soloq in apex is gambling

[young pine]

some randoms just refuse to listen. i even play with some people i know that cant listen. most can be pretty sensible tho if you talk to them like toddlers

"hey buddy i got a job for you. all you gotta do is watch this area and shoot at anyone you see"

[native sluice]

actually

playing soloq

is babysitting

[dull falcon]

Surprisingly u meet racist ass kids on there

[native sluice]

but you don't get paid for that

i mean i mean apex is top 1 most toxic game

ill find a ss wait a second

[dull falcon]

Some random was like what i think of blm

Then proceeded to be racist

[young pine]

luckily i don't deal with too much of that. most of the randoms dont comm at all until they die. then all of a sudden their mic works

[dull falcon]

I usually try to keep the vibes positive

And make them feel like they can talk

[young pine]

I try to ask them alot of direct questions so they get tired of typing and respond

communication isn't that important if they're decent tho. i've had team mates that never say a word but they listen very well

[native sluice]

here

[young pine]

I wonder that they used to get that data or what they consider toxic

[native sluice]

negative tweets ig

im not sure

[little verge]

Not surprising. You make a game that targets the common denominator demographic and most people in that aren't exactly sincere and rational.

[young pine]

tweets??

[native sluice]

post on twitter

im really not sure

[little verge]

Probably tweets and in game experiences.

[young pine]

yeah i dont think that matters

[native sluice]

yeah

i mean

i went to soloq

[young pine]

to me toxicity is just about in game comms

[native sluice]

last game one guy was singing really loud and screaming and another guy was saying most racial slurs ever to that guy

[young pine]

and I dont run into much toxicity other than team mates crying that they died.

[native sluice]

ur lucky ig

[little verge]

I still think LoL/HoN/DotA are worse because people will either lock you into long losses or outright grief. It's got layers of toxicity.

[young pine]

I'd go as far as saying Valorant is worse. ive heard so much racist sexist shit on that game

[native sluice]

idk i feel like cs is worse

[young pine]

only heard racism/sexism on apex 2 or 3

[native sluice]

valorant is a bit more chill

[grim torrent]

its also funny that they now have a feedback form you can fill out. we all know they woont listen to the outcome

[native sluice]

LMAO

did you enjoy the match?

yes or no

[grim torrent]

no its like "What would you say to the respawn developers

[native sluice]

actually

i would really enjoy

kills matter more

that's it

placement points is cringe because you can just rat to master

i had a game we were holding lg on kings canyon and i just fucking saw guy climbing tree and sitting there

[little verge]

Respawn always asking that in the match you have toxic teammates, you're getting DDoSed in a pub, and pushed by a cheat squad while also being sent to a server in Asian regions for some reason.

[native sluice]

1/10 games i have 110+ ping

for some reason

[grim torrent]

and now the rank of other players is hidden so oyu cant see than your teammate is gold and you just got killed a 3 preds

[little verge]

Yeah, gotta love having 20ms to the game centre but most of your matches are 90-120

[native sluice]

i mean the lobbies are really random aswell. 1 game i have like 8 squads on ring 2 and next 15 on ring 3

and you can't even chill on pubs because it became algs with 90+ kills revenants on console one clipping you from 200m away

because they decided to add sbmm in pubs

[grim torrent]

they added it a long time ago they just mae it worse

[dull falcon]

Thats a hacker

[half salmon]

why even play pubs nowadays

such a waste of time

ranked is basically pubs now

[grim torrent]

no its just an average roller player

[little verge]

Apex: We have no modes for you to actually have fun!

[grim torrent]

maybe 200m is a bit to muchtho

[dull falcon]

There is no skill gap on rollee unless ur bad at aiming

[light rapids]

idk arent strikepacks pretty popular on konsol

[dull falcon]

Close range at lwast

Least*

[little verge]

Strike packs and Cronus are plentiful.

[dull falcon]

.6 .4 aint enough

[grim torrent]

whats that like cheats?

[dull falcon]

Gonna give myself .4 aim assist on mnk since aim assist does nothing

[light rapids]

it like counteracts recoil for you

by a pretty big margin actually

from my understanding

[little verge]

Console players: "Everyone else is using it so I might as well" sentiment 100%. Blame Respawn for not doing shit about it though.

[light rapids]

comparable to free jitter aim i guess

[native sluice]

no

90k+ kills

[dull falcon]

Mfs me like my aim assist doesnt do that

[light rapids]

but idk if those things are as popular as console player make them out to be

cuz on like every konsol post theyre accusing the player of strikepacking

[native sluice]

AntechristuM

this guy

[little verge]

About a year ago my friend showed me an email showing how many Cronus batches have been made and it numbered in the low 200ks

[native sluice]

this guy killed me like 3 times already

[light rapids]

yeah thats not a lot cuz they prolly are usable on every game

so not all of these 200k are playing in apeggs

[little verge]

Still, even 10% of 200k with a cheat device is huge.

[native sluice]

his top 1 rev br kills and he does playing roller, crouching and hitting one clips on every guy

[little verge]

And that's not counting strike pack use either.

Or XIM.

[dull falcon]

@little verge i have 2 of those

[grim torrent]

can you still to that by plugging is a controller

[dull falcon]

Idk if it works on pc

But on console yes

[grim torrent]

i want to turn off crossplay ;(

[dull falcon]

Still u have to fight .4s

[native sluice]

any1 wanna play apex ranked tho?

s1 eu

[grim torrent]

if you want so lose sure

[raven hull]

These servers are unplayable, 7 loss almost constantly and micro freezes making any kind of long range basically impossible

i dont remember them being this bad since like season 1/2

[native sluice]

wanna play now?

[grim torrent]

yeah why not

[native sluice]

vc?

[grim torrent]

if you want. in server?

[raven hull]

lmao my team said "okay we are going to fight this, go go" they both ran away and didnt even try fight

???

why tell us to go in then

[native sluice]

yeah

[light rapids]

Ofc it's a controller player

[edgy crane]

https://youtu.be/BCYgYXfDVio?si=eAHvHKsnCpKaTYF8 ong frfr

[twin dirge]

actually sick clips

[worn bloom]

Why am I crying in the club rn

[edgy crane]

❤️

[edgy crane]

Lmao

[worn bloom]

Nice montage bro. I especially love the thumbnail with the mouse and keyboard crossed out

[edgy crane]

Thanks ❤️, thumbnail took me 2 min max to make 😀

[young pine]

sick montage tho

[dull falcon]

@edgy crane Not gonna b a hater or anything but if that was my mnk montage i would not swap to co ntroller

The clips could be better

[young pine]

controller is just boring. mnk way too fun to give up just to play apex ranked

I respect it tho

[wet stratus]

actually good ranked montage?

[spice swift]

dammm refresh montage sicks clip gg !

[dull falcon]

fuck me

[little verge]

Still a good run though

[dull falcon]

fs

gonna do what i did for smoothbot for this one

[little verge]

Gonna do what, exactly?

[spice swift]

love that angle cam wp

pk this season sooo op

168 with one pk shot

tf

last faide video

[dull falcon]

anyone want to play ranked

[vale mirage]

just play hybrid lol

sure u can shoot straight on controller but actually learning how to play the real game on it is a lot more of a learning curve than most ppl think

[torn oyster]

thank.
the one thing that sucks is mic quality.

[devout tusk]

just get the score bro

[edgy crane]

Ill have nosh to learn me, cus im going to focus more on school so i cant really play 12h+. So im just gonna get good on roller

[half salmon]

lf ranked

[spice swift]

all good g !

[edgy crane]

Yeah ofc, but its gonna be fun learning smth new

[calm shuttle]

[young pine]

[half salmon]

anyone need batts

[raven hull]

The way you aim is interesting to me, you dont really move the mouse too far its a lot of smaller movement and resetting back to a neutral position. I might have to try that as it avoids your arm ending up in an odd position for aiming.

[torn oyster]

I do a lot of resetting when playing apex.
Playing on 30cm
(1700 .80)

[raven hull]

i play 37cm (800 1.4) so there probably even more reason for me to reset as i can easily end up at the edge of my pad without realizing it

[torn oyster]

I do this when aim training too which is actually semi bad imo.

But for apex it works in my favor.

Keeping neutral makes for situations to be more predictable to react to than being in a off state

[raven hull]

well they are fundamentially different, you wouldnt want to constantly reset during something like smoothbot as theres almost no reason to unless you actually hit the edge of your pad

but in game thats rarely going to happen

[torn oyster]

Naturally but it's a habit drawn from apex.

I've contemplated on making adjustments to how I aim in apex but what I do works.

[raven hull]

If it aint broke dont fix it. Plus your aim is clean and confident. No reason to mess with that

[torn oyster]

That clip doesn't do it justice but thanks, appreciate that

[raven hull]

well its cleaner and more confident than my aim lol

[torn oyster]

Consistency will get you where you want it to be.

Keep at it.

[lethal wraith]

playing 30cm like it's 50cm with the resets

[raven hull]

finding the time to practice aim is my biggest struggle atm, between work, learning a language and the gym there just arent enough hours in the day

smh

why do we need sleep, stupid chemical mush in my head let me stay awake all 24 hours and be productive

that and apex servers are dog shit rn and it tilts me to even play

so ive been playing risk of rain 2 instead

[spice swift]

i didn’t noticed but yeahh pretty interesting

also on your hand on the desk or also your arm ?

[spice swift]

BAHAHAH BRO HOW TF YOU DO THAT 😭😭😭😭

[half salmon]

we killed a team hoarding 20 batts

[spice swift]

no fckin way 💀💀

[wintry cypress]

oh man i desperately need to make a new tage

so many good clips and i dont play atm anyway

[pastel garden]

I just made a new little clip dump :3 https://twitter.com/skylarskynyx/status/1694109289013510370?s=46

Skylar ✨| Skynyx (@SkylarSkynyx)

I've been reading books of old
The legends and the myths

S18 Apex clip dump, R9 back on the floor finally eeee

▶ Play video

Twitter · Aug 22, 2023, 10:08 PM

Tracking crutch over here 🫡

[little verge]

If it works, it works. Baranox in the BF community keeps it neutral all the time, almost every swipe leads into a reset. Weird AF but he makes it work.

[half salmon]

what the fuck is this ranked system

59?????????????

[torn oyster]

The middle of my arm is on the desk yeah. My anchor until I need to make long movements

[half salmon]

5 kills top 8 2 kills top 3

assists were pre top 8

[twin dirge]

i dont think it makes a difference. I had a game where me and my teammate had pretty much equal kp and only like 1.2 parti and he got triple my bonus even though he is higher ranked

[half salmon]

i wont get masters or preds in my game

everyone is either silver or gold

[wintry cypress]

I also reset my mouse a fuckton, i just want to be in the center position at all times, probably cause i grew up playing cs with low sens on a small mousepad

[half salmon]

oh my god i searched everyone's name i killed and theyre all fucking silver and golds

[wintry cypress]

😱

[dull falcon]

Thoughs on optic dropped

To me he feels like a side character

[half salmon]

less pros in singapore/hk

[dull falcon]

And he dont get no love

[half salmon]

dropped is nothing notable

hes good but not known for anything tbh

[dull falcon]

Yeah

He feels plain

[half salmon]

like you can easily correlate good roller players to effect verhulst

[dull falcon]

Like he gets his team in th3 brackets everytime

The*

[half salmon]

the only pros i ever faced was HVND

i got buegy on my team once

and killed playerkay but thats about it

i barely face pros in rank

got buegy on my team and he carried so hard

i was barely catching up to do like 2k dmg

mf drops 4k dmg so casually in ranked

roller bang as well

[twin dirge]

HVND is one of the most underrated teams imo

they have insane players but its like no one even knows

[half salmon]

HVND was good last lan

but they dropped buegy

for playerkay

[twin dirge]

They kinda trolled by contesting landslide in finals though

i didnt really notice that tbh

[half salmon]

contesting landslide 😭😭😭

[twin dirge]

Felt like they still went a litlle under the radar

[half salmon]

out of all the pois

play patiently

and slow

thats how you win endgames

you always want to be the person thats less focused

thats why valk/horizon is so good on endgames

they can take height and stay there until they have to fight

a consistent way to survive endgames for me is playing evac towers and jumping on it until its time to drop down

[twin dirge]

Stay in cover and identify what teams have to move out first and which ones are the biggest threat to your position. Also avoid taking big chunks of damage, in an endgame its much more difficult to find space to heal so you have to maintain health as good as possible

[half salmon]

play knocks

always stay near shield swaps

fighting 1v2s or even 1v1s in the open is never a good idea

just stay calm and retreat down to knock to pop batts if needed

the longer you stay exposed they can get more damage on you

enough damage and they will either just ape and kill you

assuming you have knocks

ive already learned to stay calm and listen to comms from my team in endgames

its always the same thing

play slow, move with zone, kill some random exposed team

[twin dirge]

Those come with practice and repetition like everything else

[half salmon]

if the zone is in open start finding ways to make yourself not focusable or stay out of the fight

play horizon she excels at endgames

[mystic agate]

playing zone is cringe just kill them

[half salmon]

horizon can easily stay out of the fight and cause chaos in such a small space

actually insane

[dull falcon]

You're killing silvers

[half salmon]

how do i ask apex to match me with masters and preds

[dull falcon]

Bro tsm done made A mil off apex comp

[wintry cypress]

Be diamond

[half salmon]

im considering that

i doubt singapore/hk servers has enough masters to even fill the lobby

i know these mfs arent getting pred

[raven hull]

I sense nothing but lies, all my games are 50+ ping with 7 + loss

[wintry cypress]

be the only pred on the server

[dull falcon]

Anyone down to play ranked later with me

[twin dirge]

depends how much later and what rank

[dull falcon]

Silver 1 rn

[twin dirge]

me too

[twin dirge]

When are you on?

[dull falcon]

Actually silver 2 but its like 1 more point for silver 1

Ill be home in like 2 hrs i think

Doing my hair rn

Then i gotta do some kovaaks

[half salmon]

ill play with u when ur gold

[twin dirge]

Ill be on for like 3 more hours so Ill catch like an hour with you

[wintry cypress]

im silver 4 but honestly i cant stand apex atm 💀

[little verge]

I haven't even finished my placement matches lol. Two matches of pred stacks and two matches of cheaters and I was done. Pubs are somehow even sweatier.

[twin dirge]

anyone want to 1v1?

[half salmon]

what

[dull falcon]

Y3ah ima start cheating bruh no way

[edgy crane]

yeah we got killed by alot of cheaters in pubs

[wet stratus]

getting killed by cheaters actually makes me enjoy the game more

like i just think to myself like if only my aim was this good

[little verge]

It's actually sad because I see more cheaters get banned in Battlefield. Most are way too obvious and don't disable public stats so you can see and report accordingly.

[wintry cypress]

Yeah, just not enjoyable at all, matchmaking tighter than my ass this season like wtf

[little verge]

It's basically only the rage wallers that don't get banned unless you have a clip proving it, but no spectator mode.

[wintry cypress]

Also im pretty sure ranked now has the same type of mm as pubs

[little verge]

Yeah, shit is completely unplayable. And my teammates are pretty much useless so I guarantee they're having even less fun.

If I get a good teammate that usually means I'm getting put in a cheater lobby and we'll lose even harder lol.

[wintry cypress]

Yeah, i was playing with a friend and having 0 fun in ranked, couple games in and its just as sweaty as my pubs, im all for having a competitive game but fuck me

[little verge]

It's about having variety. Sometimes you just want to push fights and fuck around.

[wintry cypress]

Yeah, guess i should play pubs for that but damn

[little verge]

It's hilarious when people call good players sweats when we honestly don't want to have to play at peak levels 100% of the time. It's just a necessity.

[wintry cypress]

If i should take the game less seriously in pubs they should loosen up the MM in pubs

[wintry cypress]

Yeah pretty much, no room to have fun, only sweat

[wet stratus]

ppl that call people sweats are unironically losers irl as well from what ive seen

[little verge]

Also true, I always get called that when I'm legitimately just playing to push fights and have no regard for my own safety in positioning and clip farming.

[wintry cypress]

I mean im sweaty as well but i call other people sweats too 😂

[little verge]

The people that are unironically sweaty the most are the casuals because they'll play like winning is the most important thing and are so scared to engage without numbers to ensure safety.

[wintry cypress]

^

Thats what i mean

Ppl just playing scared

Playing charge rifle 3030 longbow

3 man team on the hill

Sniper squad

[little verge]

See it so often in Battlefield TDM, you can't find half the lobby and then you see like 8 people just camping a makeshift fort knox full of deployable cover, respawn beacons, TUGS, claymores, etc.

The second you play an actual objective based game mode though, no one can stand on a cap to save their soul lol

63 players hiding in random bushes and hillsides 200m away

[wintry cypress]

Solution: play singleplayer games

[worn bloom]

Might make celestial today or get pred or maybe even one clip an underrated roller Horizon haven't decided tbh

[dull falcon]

@weight

[worn bloom]

50 grams

[little verge]

At least Starfield looks fun. I don't think it'll capture me like Elder Scrolls does, but it'll probably still clear a month or two

[worn bloom]

2 weeks of refreshing websites for stock and having to play on a broken mouse

Its over. I hope it doesnt suck because I really love how the Lamzu Atlantis looks

[wintry cypress]

Yeah, starfield and cyberpunk is all i can think about atm

Plenty of shit to do in starfield though as far as ive heard

[spice swift]

I see I see I think most playing like this

[edgy crane]

https://youtu.be/QLV9UiZ0-bs lmao

just found it accidentally

[quaint karma]

accidentally

[young pine]

thats pretty cool

[native sluice]

new tech for making videos

i see this being used by some news channel

[torn oyster]

theres a similar bug / tech in majoras mask called time stop that does a similar thing

spamming A on a gossip stone and then canceling the textbox faster by spamming, puts you in time stop, and you can C up and just spin in circles

thats what that reminds me of

[edgy crane]

What do you mean?

[violet sentinel]

Does anyone use 4k hz on Apex? Does it work fine? Someone told me 4k doesn't work good on Apex

[native sluice]

HELLO EVERYONE IT'S YOUR FAVOURITE BOY HERE APEX BEST NEWS points pk in a screen

fuck dude

i just got really good teammates but we can't queue because he is plat and im silver

[wintry cypress]

You mean 4k res?

[violet sentinel]

no 4k hz mouse polling rate

[wintry cypress]

Oh yeah, some people use it i think, but some people also have issues with the game stuttering when using 1k hz and they have to tone it down to 500hz, id say just try it

[edgy crane]

I mean, its just a habit from my minecraft days

Every minecraft intro ever was like that and prob is like that

[dull falcon]

any pros who use 4 ads

[calm shuttle]

[worn bloom]

Why he say STFU for

https://tenor.com/view/50-cent-whathesaidfuckmefor-fuck50-gif-25306610

They need to nerf Rev for real though, that ult a tad bit too strong. Should be less health and have shield bleed like Gibby

[dull falcon]

bc it was a girl maybe

[worn bloom]

Nah, let me give context here. The guy who said that was playing with his girl(?) and they were just chilling talking so that caught me off guard lol

They seemed wholesome lol he was telling her its okay shes doing bad as long as shes having fun

[naive kindle]

agreed, I think its also designed for noobs too cause the body size is too large for movement players

[native sluice]

+40 for 7 kills and like 6 assists

[light rapids]

[light rapids]

https://twitter.com/cirohara/status/1697013966684164590

jaylin (@cirohara)

apex has only gone downhill since the day daniel z klein got fired from respawn but y'all aren't ready for that conversation yet

Twitter · Aug 30, 2023, 10:30 PM

[unborn token]

3.63s guess time from my 1.88s when i got 948 highscore

can defo get way higher

[native sluice]

teaching circle is lame

just use feelings

to get gatekept after because u got ring wrong

[unborn token]

What?

I'm confusedn

You just guess where it ends and majority of the endings I've played and seen

[young pine]

Aren't all the endings custom to algs?

At least that's what I heard

[wary star]

you don't have the cheat sheet bro?

[alpine trail]

lfg rank diams

[unborn token]

No

I prob have some zone pulls sheets I can look

[wary star]

It was a joke

[unborn token]

This season it's weird

It counter pulls a lot

Like a lot lot

[unborn token]

Oh

[half salmon]

worlds edge 3 games

5th 5th 1st

not bad

[raven hull]

bro went sneaky beaky mode

[wintry cypress]

damn that was his one chance to get some action too

(egirl)

[unkempt nacelle]

^does anyone know hoch much aimassist the R5 reloaded 1v1 server has?

[unborn token]

From what scrimd

Scrims is that

[unborn token]

.4

[half salmon]

veryapex scrims

[worn bloom]

That CFG team playing it like a TDM

[half salmon]

they had a roller

[raven hull]

Some more sick clips

[worn bloom]

Which season did he leave?

[worn bloom]

Don’t they tell ppl not to ape early on like that so the end games are solid. I remember in FN scrims You couldn’t fight until a certain circle closed or only if you’re contested

[light rapids]

6th august 2021 apparently

[worn bloom]

A custom server browser would slap on Apex so hard. Zone wars, 1v1, movement arenas. Basically R5R but in game and hopefully less clunky

[raven hull]

that would require effort from the dev team

and they dont do that

well actually thats unfair because its most likely the piss poor management at fault

[worn bloom]

That’s like season 9-10. Whoever made that tweet is absolutely correct. When that guy was in charge they made so much progress, a lot of great changes. If someone asked me the golden ages of Apex I’d say season 3-8 (didn’t play 9-10)

I Wonder how much of it is that terrible server contract they’re stuck on? The worst servers of any major esport title. I live in a metropolitan NA city and I get between 45-70 ping and it feels worse

[half salmon]

nah

i was contesting some dogshit team on harvester

3-0d them

0 point games for 3 games for them

[edgy crane]

IT DOES NOT GO OFF RANK

UNDERSTAND THAT PLEASE

[dull falcon]

The idea of rank

Why is mmr needed

[edgy crane]

yeah cus apex is stupid and it needs two way to show your skill and match you

like bruh

the guys who made the game smoked crack and did some acid

[wary star]

a mm system made by chatgpt will probably be a thousand times better than this shit

[edgy crane]

yeah

agreed

[wary star]

#pleasereplacedumbasseswithai

[edgy crane]

#pleasereplacedumbasseswithai

[wet skiff]

MMR is fine, ranked is fine, combining them in the way that apex did is fucking stupid beyond belief.

Ranked, by default, IS MMR based if you simply put equal ranks in the same lobby. It's a bit more complex when there's 20 teams instead of only 2, but that's essentially the gist of it.

Having a hidden MMR then being placed in the same lobby as others with the same MMR but having wildly different ranks makes no sense whatsoever, it's 2 competing systems that can't exist simultaniously

[worn bloom]

They want you to grind ranked. You used to be able to breeze thru the lower ranks but now you’re fighting available ppl in your skill bracket the whole way thru

[wary star]

the problem is

apex devs don't play their game

so they don't know what metrics are indicative of skill to calculate a reasonably accurate "mmr" of a player

currently in apex the "mmr based matchmaking" in pubs is tighter than that of in ranked

and it's simply not how it should be

i should not be waiting 10 min in between matches for pubs in queue just so that the system can put me in a lobby with matchmaking tighter than fucking ranked

and no matter how good of a player a silver player is he should not, under any circumstances, be put in a match with a top 750 player

[worn bloom]

https://x.com/draynilla/status/1697001636265095375?s=46&t=zQDDlMGm6H5y7wPzLduXeg

SoaR Dray (@draynilla)

one thing the apex community has going for us is that we are undefeated when it comes to creative names on steam

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This is facts tho

[half salmon]

even worse the pred gets his ellim bonus punished for killing said silver player

its genuinely a lose lose situation

[worn bloom]

You ain’t never told a lie

[wet skiff]

yea this is a common problem with BRs, though. Like, who is better player? Someone with a 4 KDR and 400 dmg per match who dies early in the game, or someone who averages 2 KDR with 200 DMG per match but dies in top 3 every game?

[wary star]

no someone who is simmilar rank to you should probably be put together in a game with you instead in ranked

instead of doing mental gymnastics to figure out who is how much skilled comparatively

and in pubs

just don't have a mmr

pubs are supposed to be casual

i had a end zone fight in pubs today

what is this bullshit

@north rivet

that is real

[wet skiff]

when it comes to BR stats alone aren't good enough to determine who is a better player cus you can hot drop all day have a decent KDR and damage even if all you are doing is landing, grabbing a gun first, and killing players who haven't gotten anything yet.

When it comes to MMR it's tough to say, especially for pubs. Honestly. Like I get most players in this discord are really good but due to the nature of BRs less than avg players would basically be doing nothing but fighting players like us, despite the fact we'd be only 1% of the population

[wary star]

the thing is

since we are 1%

[wet skiff]

it wouldn't be any different than players in diamond feeling frustrated running into top 500 pred/pros all the time while they're still in diamond, it's just as annoying

[wary star]

they would most likely be not fighting us

most of them atleast

plus controller just makes them better than us

and all of them are controller players

[wet skiff]

Nope. Because the nature of BRs(1 death, requeue) the opposite happens; average players fight better players more often.

That's beacuse the top 1% basically go around killing everyone in the lobby, staying all the way to the end, while the noobs tend to avoid fighting and just get run down. So they're cycling through lobbies while the top 1% generally stay in their lobbies longer, spreading them out over more lobbies.

So what ends up happening is you have a pretty high chance of an average or below average player having a 1% player in their lobby, and due to the 1% player killing most players in the lobby, they have a disproportionate chance of encountering them, especially because that 1% player is actively killing all the other worse players in the lobby and actively hunting

[edgy crane]

just return s13 ranked

like hellooooooo?

[half salmon]

lf rank plat

im losing my mind solo q

[wet skiff]

This is sort of easy to see when you consider ranked. When I was in diamond trying to get into masters a few seasons ago, MOST of my deaths were from pro 3 stacks. Because they were basically running through the lobbies killing all the other diamonds

[wary star]

mathematically you have a 20% chance of fighting a top 1% player in trios without mmr on average under ideal circumstances

[wet skiff]

pretty sure that's the chance of having 1 in your lobby, the odds of you fighting them are much higher if you are playing to place/win instead of aping or fighting for the sake of fighting

[wary star]

yeah

but that's how a br should be

[echo field]

🤓

[wary star]

the higher you are in placement the better player you should expect to fight

[wet skiff]

I'm not joking when I said literally most of my deaths were from pro 3 stacks and it was honestly fucking annoying as hell having to deal with that level of skill gap in diamond. Although I did get accused of cheating by Lou's squad which was fucking hilarious, shot his ass dead when he took a cannon

[half salmon]

i barely face pro stacks

barely any pros in singapore/hk

[wary star]

i don't even play ranked anymore

[edgy crane]

i only phase a lv 200 that one clips me

like hes hal

[half salmon]

dude i was 1v1ing a lvl 200 roller

[wet skiff]

this was a few seasons ago, I think 13 or 14 I don't remember. But that must be nice. Because diamond wasn't particularly hard EXCEPT for the fact we were fighting a pro 3 stack virtually every single game without even being masters

[half salmon]

he was tracking every movement i put at him perfectly

it was like a 60/40

[wet skiff]

I got put into one of those clipping channels when alb killed me

[edgy crane]

when you got to diamond you met pro stacks

simple

[wet skiff]

when I got to diamond I effectively fought pro stacks in every lobby or every other lobby

[raven hull]

yeah that was fun, going from plat 1 in normal lobbies to my first game in diamond the champ squad was a 3 stack of top 20 preds

i ust sat looking at my screen like "welp time to get fucked i guess"

[edgy crane]

and WHEN YOU COULD SEE WHEN YOU KILLED A PRED TEAM

now you just see

[raven hull]

TRUE

[edgy crane]

the kill feed was so fun

cus you know when you kill a pred

and then you tbag the box

[raven hull]

i hate they removed that, they are trying so hard to cope the fact they fucked up matchmaking

by making it so we cant see

[edgy crane]

uep

its like arenas

you couldnt see any rankes

[raven hull]

cant make valid complaints if we lack critial info

we can only make baseless speculation

[edgy crane]

soon they are turning apex status off

so you cant search them up

[wary star]

fr?

[edgy crane]

no

[wary star]

kitty can now be #2 pred and no body would know she rats

oh

unfortunate

[wet skiff]

yea I'm not defending the current state of ranked but I do think saying casual shouldn't have MMR is just not seeing the big picture. Because even I was getting annoyed by the skill gaps between my diamond teammates and pro 3 stacks, and I'm very much up there.

A more average player would stop playing the game if they encountered as many preds/pros as no mmr would lead too

[wary star]

but that's not in pubs though

[edgy crane]

i mean they removed ranked trails for a reason

[wet skiff]

I'm saying if there was no MMR in pubs that's exactly what would happen

[edgy crane]

so you cant complain when a full three stack of preds land on you in pubs

[wary star]

that wouldn't happen i am telling you

[edgy crane]

• they can sell them

[wet skiff]

And we know it's true because ignoring everythign else, the vast majority of MNK players straight up quit playing the game because they felt the fights against controllers were unfair.

[edgy crane]

pubs rn is ranked but everyone int eachother

[wary star]

yeah

fighting good players =/= fighting controller players

that take 5 full seconds to turn

[wet skiff]

average players don't see a difference.

[edgy crane]

thats why i play 5-3 🙂

[wet skiff]

They don't see anything except the skill gaps are too large to overcome and that they can't get fair fights to make the game worth playing.

that's why MMR in pubs exists.. because it has too to keep the game alive

[wary star]

clearly not working

now your average dog shit bot queues ranked and rats

[edgy crane]

the only thing they can do it do input locked lobbys

like why havent they done that

they prob to lazy to code that shit

[raven hull]

probably isnt enough players

[edgy crane]

idc, give me longer q times

i do not care

it should be a option atleast

[raven hull]

even adding the option would split the playbase and you would have a smaller pool of potential players for each game

they wont do it for that reason

[edgy crane]

but the health of the game, like then nerf aa

the only reason i switched is to abuse aa

[raven hull]

weak willed

smh

[edgy crane]

i mean, nosh switched and that inspired me

[raven hull]

nosh is a chad tho so we allow that

[edgy crane]

i wanna learn smth new so why not be good at both

yeah its such a hit or miss gun

oh you hit two 88 and kill a guy

or you hit 19999 11 shots

nuh uh stop complaining horizon on this now 😠

nuh uhhhhhhhh

[half salmon]

i used to like mastiff

now its just mid

not like i cant hit shots but its just inconsistent and gets outdpsed by literally anything

even EVA is better

[young pine]

you're forgetting that preds arent like perfect human aimbots. they over extend or get 3rd partied like everyone ele. say there is a 1% player in your lobby, they're probably gonna hot drop and get unlucky just like the rest of us. i'm not a math guy but whatever percentage is left that you actually die to that 10% SHOULD motivate you to get better. just like it used to back in the day

[half salmon]

dude i dont get loss forgiveness for this

like id be fine if theres no teammate to begin with

but IM LOSING RP FOR THIS

if i die

[wet skiff]

probably because they see that there are so few MNK players they don't think they'll fill lobbies.. which is only true because of controllers.

So it's like.. what do you call it? A self fulfilling prophecy? No mnk players because no MNK only lobbies, but no MNK only lobbies because no MNK players

wait it's called a catch-22

[young pine]

thats not why theres not mnk only lobbies tho

[wet skiff]

It only motivates you if it happens occasionally. If it happens every fight or every game it has the opposite effect. And the nature of BRs means it happens disproportionately compared to games where you have a fixed # of players in a lobby that respawn. In those sort of cases, I agree that MMR is stupid because then the chance of encountering 1% players is roughly that, you only get them in your games occasionally and it's only 1 player in the lobby so even in that lobby you'll regularly fight others, since they aren't booted from the lobby the first time they die.

like in TDM or cod there shouldn't be MMR. But casual BR.. I think it's necessary to have a loose MMR in place

[young pine]

I just don't agree. at all. if you're dying every fight every game you're dying to average players, not the best players. if you were dying to strictly the 1% you would still have good games and you wouldn't be upset when you do

[native sluice]

it used to be 2 separate lobbies bot lobby and everyone else. Now they added sbmm, queue times really high and pubs became algs at least in my lobbies. I personally. MY OPINION. enjoy that more than stomping thru plats golds

if u get this players it means u have same smbb

sbmm mmr

[wet skiff]

probably not initially, but I bet you that's the justification now. Or at least part of it.

Likely they also feel it would be admitting that aim assist has been a problem and OP this entire time and that would be a major blunder from EA's perspective.

At best, we can maybe hope that in some future we get Apex Legends: 2 and that has seperate lobbies. (I would not hold my breath)

[broken pine]

https://twitter.com/LeftHandAimer/status/1697291747486044659?t=YPoKhewr2vJIcO9cWGpa8w&s=19

mA | 𝗥𝗮𝗵𝘂 #PsyQo (@LeftHandAimer)

#1 Left Hand Aimer is CHEATING on APEX LEGENDS!?

Full video link: https://t.co/IKeK3RZiX1

@OfficialPsyQo #PsyQoLeftHandAimer
@PlayApex #ApexLegends

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Twitter · Aug 31, 2023, 4:54 PM

https://youtu.be/epAq9EAffl8?si=W20iALaPNnPGPK-P

What you guys think of my aim? Comment on the links!

[native sluice]

So bright and low bitrate

can't see shi

[raven hull]

looks like it was recorded on a phone, it could be roblox for all i know you can barely see anything lol

[half salmon]

that was not enjoyable to watch

[half salmon]

guess how much elim bonus apex gave me

[native sluice]

40

:)

soloq

is rough

[worn bloom]

Less than the Ballistic

[native sluice]

@half salmon wanna play apex ranked?

[half salmon]

im gonna sleep

[native sluice]

oke

i need

150 lp

to get fucking gold

i cba with soloq

[native sluice]

did you see mine

[dull falcon]

Your killing silvers lmao

[native sluice]

@half salmon

it's for top 2

[half salmon]

literally what can i do about it

[dull falcon]

Accept it

[half salmon]

when all im facing is silvers and golds

[native sluice]

im silver

and i play in diamond

:)

[half salmon]

hell when i hit diamond im gonna start getting 0 elim bonus for kills

[native sluice]

OK OK

IK

SOLO Q IS HARD

BUT NOT THIS WAY

LMAOO

[quaint karma]

as far as i know

respawn is aware that the current sbmm algorithm is overtuned

and are going to change it in the future

at least thats what they said in that one reddit thread a few days ago

and no, sbmm has always been in apex

[native sluice]

yeah

5 min queue for pubs is wild

any1 wanna vc

im bored ratting

[half salmon]

dude im gonna start playing eu and na lobbies

[native sluice]

na is easier

imo

[half salmon]

i dont care as long as i can get elim bonus

these servers have like 3 good players

[native sluice]

i don't get it in frankfurt

at all

[half salmon]

cant believe im complaining about the lobby being dogshit

[native sluice]

g-gamepaly

[native sluice]

nah

u just don't get elim bonus

because they nerf it

even more

i think

[raven hull]

yummy

[native sluice]

how

like

how

[raven hull]

i've not been able to play this season so i was only bronze 1 lol

had 9 kills so im guessing they were mostly golds or higher for that kind of elim bonus

[native sluice]

prob

but u would get skill rating

i believe

[raven hull]

[native sluice]

easiest +25 in my life

by chatting in discord

[dull falcon]

Why doesnt taskmaster stream anymore

[quaint karma]

grappa

[unborn token]

Scrim lobby sucking d

?

Average emea moment

[alpine trail]

is apex really fun?

[unborn token]

No

Not at all

[alpine trail]

because i either download that or overwatch

[unborn token]

Overwatch

Stay away from this game

It's hard to get into and way too annoying to play

Save yourself now that you can

[half salmon]

nah just ranked

[alpine trail]

womp

back to valorant

[unborn token]

A damn

Emea tier 50 scrim lobbies be hitting diff man

Got a controller player that did 611 dmg in 6 games and I did 1k while dcing 3 games total

[wet skiff]

yea avoid this game but also avoid overwatch

[worn bloom]

Bad roller players be making that shit look balanced

I don't like to get mad at ppl underperforming but when I was playing with my friend a few months ago I couldnt help but noticed he doesnt do any damage during these fights. Like how you play the same game 4 years straight on the same broken input and doing only 400 damage in 15 minutes IDGI

[mystic crystal]

OP aim doesn't make up for bad game sense

[worn bloom]

It gets worse.. I 1v1'd him on roller (haven't played in 3 years, took an entire year+ off playing FPS games) and I beat him 7-1 and he backed out to the lobby talking about "I'm warmed up, lets get into some games" 💀

[mystic crystal]

Honestly some people are still just dog on roller

regardless of time spent on the input

[worn bloom]

The games were fun tho but its frustrating the amount of times I felt like I did an assload of damage and I have to ask myself how TF we lose that fight lol

[native sluice]

Prob he isnt really happy about ranked

[worn bloom]

Yeah lowkey want to tell him MNK might be better in the long run lol

[mystic crystal]

Ojiren seems to be popping off recently

at least in the Gantlet he was was really fun to watch

[native sluice]

He always was

Except some drama with him

[mystic crystal]

It honestly might be because learning an new input always requires more conscious thought into what your doing

it's kinda like fresh eyes on a game you've been playing

[unborn token]

He was just very much unaware of half the shit going in

On*

Maybe he had a horrible day who knows bro

He was a pretty chill like and funny guy like nth against him but would not play comp w the dude

[frail kiln]

bad gamesense lowkey is worse than bad aim

[native sluice]

Aim matters anyway

[unborn token]

What I'm talking Abt

He was unaware

Like fully

[native sluice]

Apex is the game where ur aim matters a lot

[frail kiln]

Apex is so fun for me rn

[unborn token]

We had the opportunity to res me but they wasted a solid 20 second time frame

[frail kiln]

but why do these queues take so long

[mystic crystal]

MMR?

[native sluice]

If you cant outaim roller u cant play the game

[frail kiln]

im like bronze 1 lol

i just started

[unborn token]

Debatable

[worn bloom]

Stay away from Apex streams, twitter, and possibly this discord channel lol

[unborn token]

I mean in comp it's so many other shit that that's just the cherry on top

Position team comp util usage coms loot

[native sluice]

yeah it is

[unborn token]

That shit matters times more

Than who has roller

[native sluice]

what i actually meant is that if u want to be a good apex player u have to have insane aim

[unborn token]

You can have relatively mediocre aim and still be insane w game sense

[native sluice]

being able to do 100+ with r99 in <20m is essential to be good at apex

[unborn token]

Gnaske is a perfect example

He isn't someone that you would clasify as incredible mechanically

But he is at the fucking top top

[worn bloom]

The truth of the matter is I like working on mechanics (aim, strafing, movement, etc.) but my decision making is my downfall but I can't have fun grinding the game to improve in that aspect if I feel like my mechanics are lacking. Does that make sense? I feel like only with this game thats a thing

[native sluice]

yeah

it's like

[unborn token]

I'm just working on completely diff shit atm while keeping my aim on check

[mystic crystal]

Yeah game sense and competent and smart teammates is super important for higher level play

[unborn token]

I'm doin zones rn

[worn bloom]

And it has to do with what I'm up against (roller)

[native sluice]

you need to have some sort of line of mechanics to get into apex

[unborn token]

Yeah

[native sluice]

after that it's gamesense

[unborn token]

It needs work

Once you get those down you can start focusing on other stuff

[native sluice]

if you can get 2 insane aimers in ur team and ur insane igl u will take the w

[mystic crystal]

Like I would never recommend apex for new fps players

[native sluice]

debatable

[unborn token]

Like rn me having good mechanics won't save us from a shit spot in comp

With 9 pl teams in my scrim game

[mystic crystal]

shit's too intimidating to keep up

[native sluice]

there are a lot of new fps players who just start from apex

bot lobbies exist

[native sluice]

yeah ik

[unborn token]

Timings positioning eco fundamentals for peaking coms zone knowledge

All that shit

[native sluice]

im igl myself

[unborn token]

Super stressful

[native sluice]

at least used to be

good old days

[unborn token]

I hadn't played with more than 5 pl teams for 2+ months

And we had 9

It went fucking horrible

We got punished on the slightest misstep

[native sluice]

i just

[unborn token]

Even with very high cc teams

[mystic crystal]

I think in NA yeah, but go to the asian servers and the bot lobbies are literal AI bots farming for heirlooms and shit

[native sluice]

ill vent about it

if you don't mind

so we used to have a team

[unborn token]

I don't rly igl

I play for my self and I co

[native sluice]

it was me as igl i was mostly playing crypto so all decisions was on me. We had also an insane aimer. like this mf lives kovaak and aim, and also we had like a fill guy. he was really good at "feeling teamates" he was mediocore at aim and gamesense but he was really consistent and just knew how to help bring team together

so i was mostly spending my time learning the game watching demos and stuff

so my aim were falling compared to team

[unborn token]

I just do my kovaaks and play the game as much as I can while trying the same

Was voding alliance scrims w mande couple hrs ago will prob get back to it bc I watched one game

[native sluice]

but we were doing like allright on scrims and tourneys went like fine. we didn't get anywhere mostly because we were unexperienced with gamesense

[mystic crystal]

what scrims where y'all doing?

[native sluice]

anyway it endend really fast because of drama between us

i don't talk to this people anymore

[native sluice]

russian teams

[mystic crystal]

Oh I have no idea about that scene

I imagine it must be really competitive tho

[native sluice]

sometimes were getting into tier 1-2 scene but mostly semi-pro teams

u can imagine me being here with 50 fps and bad aim

[unborn token]

Gahdamn

[native sluice]

i just couldnt fit in because of aim and pc

so

aim matters

a lot

[mystic crystal]

Yeah 50fps is rough

[native sluice]

we are not talking because this people are awfull human beings

[unborn token]

Dk what you would consider semi pro

Anything above finals to lcq + iguess

[unborn token]

Some people like thie

Thie

This**

I've been treated shit as a team8 too ik

Specially when you believe in smth

[native sluice]

there were some preds/master teams who compete for algs quals

[native sluice]

i was in good relations

because as a person i just get well with everyone

[unborn token]

I mean yeah but they can just go out round 1

I mean it's insanely hard to go out round 1

You need to suck actual balls to do so

[native sluice]

we got out round 1 :(

[unborn token]

Even with no scrim exp last minute teams

Oh god

[native sluice]

dude

[unborn token]

Hard lobby then I sssume

Assume

[native sluice]

aiming at 50 fps

[unborn token]

A

Then yeah

[native sluice]

when it's chill

and

at the end ring

i had

[unborn token]

Yeah nah then its

[native sluice]

like

20

[unborn token]

Fucked nah

I understand

I've played from laptop before

Not comp but

I had barely 70 fps on pubs

Like with optimisations and shit

[native sluice]

yeah

[unborn token]

It's unbearable

[native sluice]

but

i tried to compensate that with movement

[unborn token]

I mean whatever you can do

[native sluice]

but you can't kill people with movement

[unborn token]

Yeah

[native sluice]

but rn im decent at aim

good at gamesense

i just don't have anyone to play with

Sad

[unborn token]

Damn bro hmu any time

[native sluice]

soloq is rough rn

[unborn token]

Pubs ranked whatever

[native sluice]

r u eu?

or na

i mean i don't really care

[unborn token]

Eu

But I can play na

And sometimes I have na degen schedule so like idm

[native sluice]

playing na is just

people here is not really good at gamesense

but

they oneclip

[unborn token]

Na mechanically better than EU

Both on roller and mnk

[native sluice]

yeah

and a lot of really good eu mnk players just left apex

[mystic crystal]

sad

[unborn token]

There is barely any money in the region for them to stay

Specially if they aren't the top top top

So it is very understandable

[dull falcon]

Bro u aim with ur left hand cool

[alpine trail]

THIS GUY

[dull falcon]

Who is a roller player

[alpine trail]

guy tries to self promo twice

[dull falcon]

lol

still low quality

[dull falcon]

@hollow anchor 1v1 warmup?

[hollow anchor]

with someone rn runnin control

[dull falcon]

ahh sad ok tho have fun

wanted to see ur improvement

[hollow anchor]

iver barely played recently lol im prolly worse tbh

[lucid spade]

hello peeps

i dont wanna be like that left hand dude

is there somewhere i can post without being a nuisence to people :p

[worn bloom]

Lmfao this dude really made being left handed his whole gimmick 💀

His discord permanent name is 'lefthandedaimer'

[worn bloom]

Theirs a plug channel you can use

[lucid spade]

appreciate it fresh

[torn oyster]

@broken pine use the proper channels if you want to advertise #1133816529952194693

[sonic junco]

ROFL

the talent

[vague nexus]

I dont mind if someone plugs their channel if they are active here, but some randos that never talk and just advertise is asking to get hate

[young pine]

^

[patent surge]

the name tells a lot already

report racists

[vague nexus]

Arent antifa like terrorists?

[half salmon]

he also accused me of cheating a while ago

[edgy crane]

Facts

[edgy crane]

Bros coping so hard

[patent surge]

antifacist, don't like extrems but prefer that side to the other

[edgy crane]

You better then me, you cheating

Their ego is on another level

[vague nexus]

What sides?

[patent surge]

facists vs antifacists, that guy is clearly facist from his name

[vague nexus]

I dont like both sides, cause they are all dumb

Rather not align with any side

And i dont understand how his name can imply that he is racist

[patent surge]

don't know, meaning you destroy antifacists implies to me you're on the other side

[vague nexus]

How

[patent surge]

anyways that's a bad name

[vague nexus]

You can not be on any side but hate both

[half salmon]

dawg i could care less about this

like genuinely

apex legend

[vague nexus]

[raven hull]

actually crazy the ego people get in apex, they get out aimed once and scream the person must be cheating

it couldnt possibly be that they are bad or missplayed because they are perfect

[delicate crag]

you haven't seen the cod community

if you flick once for 0.04cm you will be accused

i'm 100% sure there is good target switching players hopping on cod from time to time to boost ego

[surreal bough]

hard part about apex is if someone is on the sticks

[naive kindle]

Roller brain, they run into the gunfire of 3 enemies then get knocked in 0.5 seconds

[unborn token]

That community is so used to the game playing it'self with aim assist

They are so fucking bricked it's insane

[delicate crag]

true

also i hate dropshotting in games

cancer mechanic

[spice swift]

the snd cod community on mw2019 was something especially best kbm terrorizing the lobbies

[native sluice]

@unborn token yo wanna play?

[manic lily]

for people who aim trained specifically for apex
how long after did you see results

[native sluice]

it's personal

depends on how much you train what u train and so on

[regal sun]

MMMMMMMMMMMMMMM

[raven hull]

Huge

what one you gonna get?

[regal sun]

wraith recolour

[raven hull]

cringe

i mean

gz

[regal sun]

THanks

[raven hull]

[naive kindle]

only practice tracking and try to play the game more

since its not hitscan its like 50% knowing the gun and 50% tracking

[wary star]

why is he named himself like an apple product

[manic lily]

yea ik i am just asking

[manic lily]

cool

[manic lily]

ok

[manic lily]

so tracking only? , no dynamic clicking ?

[native sluice]

you flick only with shotguns

in this game

every other weapon is pure tracking

[raven hull]

unless you main the wingman or something you wont get a lot of use out of grinding clicking sens

you may as well put that time into dynamic tracking

[native sluice]

wingman is tracking too

at least i track with wingman

[limber steppe]

U can track with everything

[naive kindle]

idk it feels like the best guns are pure tracking

besides wingman basically

[manic lily]

oh yea

i was gonna say wingman as well

i mean, having only to do tracking scenarios makes it easier to train

[naive kindle]

yea, try to deathmatch a lot ingame too

[gleaming willow]

just switch to roller

[manic lily]

nah

[naive kindle]

nah, im hoping the next update makes it better for mkb

[native sluice]

u wish

play like taskmast33r

[naive kindle]

its not fun playing roller with aimbot lol

[naive kindle]

ur whole gameplay can be changed in an update, cause its based on software advantages

[native sluice]

i mean

half of apex players in ranked is fucking cheating in some way or other

using rollers

using some stuff that can give aim assist with mnk

[naive kindle]

ye but can they switch to another game and still perform? lol

[native sluice]

cod LMAO

mw2

[naive kindle]

ye but no one plays that

[native sluice]

what more

halo

[naive kindle]

ye but its all relying on aim assist

[native sluice]

ikr

[naive kindle]

if you play any game with integrity its over

while a good mkb can play anything and do as well as the mechanical ceiling of the game

[native sluice]

you want to win in apex

prestack

ez wins

[naive kindle]

ye

tbh in asian servers u need to have a 3man

[native sluice]

soloq is rough atm

[naive kindle]

cause every other team is 3man that camps till last circle

[native sluice]

wanna see me suffer in soloq

[raven hull]

No friends gang gang

[native sluice]

im bored

[naive kindle]

ye I dont soloq anymore except team deathmatch and control

cant play gungame cause of charge rifle

[native sluice]

any vcers?

[quaint karma]

dont track with shotguns

i mean flick***

[dull falcon]

Im so tired how having way too many bad days on mnk

[raven hull]

it really do be like that

ill get on, load up the firing range and if i cant track the bots doing simple af strafes i just get off because its not worth the pain of playing the real game and not being able to aim that day

[lapis moat]

this wont happen lol

[naive kindle]

the devs were talking about changing aim assist

[lapis moat]

they said that 10 seasons ago

[raven hull]

like they have been forever

they say it to calm the mnk complaints but they wont do shit

they will just keep saying it

[naive kindle]

if they dont change it I will just play cs2 since it will be out by then lol

[raven hull]

like how they are working on cross progression

even tho we can clearly see its been shelved

[naive kindle]

idk fps in general feels trash rn

[raven hull]

agreed

[naive kindle]

its like they are catering towards casuals/beginners for profits rather than competitive integrity

[lapis moat]

cuz fps is a dead genre

its on its way out

[naive kindle]

idk about that

it will be around until vr gets better

[lapis moat]

FPS will always be around but as a shadow of itself (low skill slop for causals)

its over

[naive kindle]

true, at least the way it is rn

Idk it all feels downhill after valorant

[native sluice]

respawn entertainment want to make money

on apex

das it

[worn bloom]

BRs were dope but all the popular BRs went the ultra casual root

[native sluice]

valorant is a trash game on it's own but better than most of other fps

[naive kindle]

idk pubg was peak br imo

[native sluice]

cs go is old but kinda still good

[naive kindle]

my problem with valorant is it feels like a less mechanical csgo

[raven hull]

pubg was only fun for the first few months

[native sluice]

yeah

[naive kindle]

and there has to be some phantom netcode problems

[native sluice]

hitbox of head is fucking africa size

[naive kindle]

thats why they dont have match replays

[worn bloom]

Doki might be right tho, when was the last time a good shooter came out? I consider Valorant and I guess warzone