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wary star
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LMFAO

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i doubt his ego will take that hit

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he's about to dm you

vagrant pelican
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Still waiting

floral lodge
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wtf

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did I read

wary star
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he's probably ratting in ranked rn tbh

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he's on that grind

vagrant pelican
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Yeah his 1.2 kd in ranked LMAO

wary star
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i'd ego him in realm but realm doesn't have APAC yet

vagrant pelican
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Lmao

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Untitled is a g

little verge
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Not even 2 K/D and 10% W/R with roller and still egoing people?

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Sounds like Apex community.

lapis moat
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if realm has apac im fucking in

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immediately

wary star
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mate

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everyone's just egoing me coz i am not in realm

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how do plat players have so much confidence

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๐Ÿ˜ญ

final forge
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Your not in realm? Please dont talk anymore. Realm is a true measurement of skill and nothing else will be accepted Clueless

unborn token
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thinks realm

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is like algs playoffs

wary star
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wait he's a changed man now

wintry cypress
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Realm at lvl 270 with a 3k badge?

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That means i should be able to get in ๐Ÿ’€

wary star
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lets not question it

carmine viper
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I'd be more than happy

wary star
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๐Ÿ™

little verge
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Don't even give me the stats, give me that mental fortitude to struggle through all that visual clutter, server issues, audio issues, rampant cheating, and busted rotational.

final forge
quaint karma
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do you just have the goat aim in-game or you just hella smart @wary star

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i mean realistically hollow only ever got vt diamond and all but like

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1500 average score is a lot

wet skiff
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it depends how you play for sure

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if you hot drop solo 1v3 or do a lot of ranked your avg will be lower

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just cus you'll die earlier on more

quaint karma
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yeah but if you play solo with randoms your score will be higher too

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cuz no cracked teammates to instakill people or steal damage

wet skiff
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NOOO I DROPPED BELOW 4 KDR

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I'M A BOT

lethal wraith
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6

wary star
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i usually no fill for just play with my friends

quaint karma
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my average damage is like 800

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๐Ÿ’€

wary star
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plus if you hot drop you get 1k from just cleaning the drop

wet skiff
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my best season

quaint karma
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๐Ÿฅน

little verge
wet skiff
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I'm antiqued, though. I can't do it anymore. Too many controller players and I can't adapt to it

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I still play like I have the best aim in the lobby and that stops working when everyone has better aim than I do

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my aim isn't even good. It's a tragedy, a sad story

little verge
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It's pretty bad when BF2042 is a mess and has barely any existing skill gaps and plenty of cheesy gadgets but it still tilts me far less than Apex.

wet skiff
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hardstuck jade thinks he got skills

wet skiff
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I still stuck on the same things that I been struggling with forever. Overaim during tracking, struggle focusing eyes on target, prediction. Same things I been stuck with for over 6 months aim training. I got a little faster and a little more accurate but the core fundamental concepts I still haven't been able to get

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no matter how much I practice those things just keep being there

final forge
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aim training is not all, im not even diamond but have no issues aiming ingame

wet skiff
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yea but they carry into game

final forge
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a bit

wet skiff
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no, for me, those issues

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they're not kovaaks issues. They're things I struggle with in game and tried to practice out, but haven't been able too

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just... problems with the core technique of aiming that I can't fix no matter how much I practice

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and I know they're there, I recognize when I'm doing them, and I try to actively fix them, but they don't go away. I tell myself "focus on target" then immediately don't do that as I'm actively trying to do it

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so hardstuck jade I am and hardstuck getting shit on by controller players because even recognizing my poor aim doesn't help me play smarter at all

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can't teach old dog new tricks lmao

wary star
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in my case it was just a mental block

little verge
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Apex is also a mental block OMEGALUL

wary star
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LOL

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i should grind more kovaaks tbh

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get gm

wet skiff
# wary star in my case it was just a mental block

how do you unblock lol. Idk I think for me it's just that it's habitual and I can't seem to break the habit. I played FPS games for a long time and it became ingrained before I started trying to aim train

wary star
little verge
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I'd like to eventually hit GM but after jumping from intermediate to advanced I think I'm gonna stay in my lane lol. Especially since I still have lots of work to do on static and TS.

wet skiff
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I practice those thigns and get them down for like, a few hours, then over time it just slowly reverts to how I used to aim, even when i start actively reminding myself not to do them

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every day the sme thing

wary star
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funny thing is

wet skiff
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some days I can focus eyes pretty well and feel great, then next day same thing once again I can't get my eyes to focus

wary star
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i was hard stuck plat

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i stopped doing kovaaks for 2 weeks

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came back and instantly got diamond complete

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out of nowhere

wet skiff
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I'm like, telling myself outloud "focus eyes on target" every time I go to aim and my eyes are just like "what is focus?"

wary star
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and i did the same thing when i was jade

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took 2 weeks break

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came back and hit masters

little verge
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Sometimes a break can assist the process and help us break free from some short term tendencies.

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Growth is so nonlinear sometimes it's funny.

wary star
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i zone out sometimes in csfi

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still

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and i still have some predicting issues

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my aim in game has gotten so much better

wet skiff
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I take breaks. That did happen when I went to play tarkov, I came back and went to high jade after being mostly diamond

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but after a few days again went back to same problem

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and my scores dropped down to below where they were

wary star
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that's normal

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when you relearn habits

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scores drop

wet skiff
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when something is new I can focus pretty well, because ADHD works like that, so it makes sense I can focus better after a break

wary star
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when i was actively working on my prediction issues i had terrible scores

little verge
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Yeah, fluctuations are pretty standard. What matters is the averages over each period and those usually trend up.

wet skiff
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I'm trying, though, to break habits and they come back is the issues

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and my scores haven't gone back up at all

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they're in low plat atm i'm just struggling

wary star
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people did tell me to monitor my scores and see the upward trend to motivate myself to break the mental block of being stuck

little verge
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And like Zai said, when you focus on fundamentals you definitely drop score. I've been focusing more on being well centred over trying to lead the target and naturally my scores dropped but overall it helped.

wary star
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but i cba, too much effort and just took a break LOL

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and came back and saw scores improve and got motivated to grind a bit

wet skiff
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for me it's the opposite lol I just get mega depressed. I turned off all score tracking and it helped me not get tilted and feel more positives

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but that doesn't help when I notice myself making the same mistakes and can't seem to correct the habits

wary star
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ridd once told me that

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getting frustrated is good

little verge
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I miss Ridd sadge

wary star
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it means that your brain gets proper communication to rewire

little verge
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Hope homie is out there somewhere with a nice beer.

wary star
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but if you really are getting depressed then you should probably take a break

wet skiff
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ik the scores don't matter that much but I really just want to be able to get my eyes to focus on targets. If I can make that a habit, I think like 50% of my problems are fixed

wary star
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or just play kovaaks for fun, like do the fishing scen

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and the easy ones

wet skiff
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yea no I'm much better now that I don't have graphs and stuff

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mental wise

wary star
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i hop on kovaaks to do tower defence and fishing

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LOL

wet skiff
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turning off scores was best idea

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for me. Still, why can't I make my eyes focus on the target? Even when I'm like, verbally telling myself to focus on the target

wary star
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it's insane that i was immortal in valorant and was praised for good aim with VT gold aim LOL

little verge
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It's also good to just break away from grinding the benches and looking for those kinds of goals. It's a good initial motivator but long term I think it's best to really isolate fundamentals and tighten everything up, and try new scenarios.

wet skiff
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yaI haven't done them in a while, but that's also because I know I haven't actually gotten any better

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I don't really know how to approach these issues. Like how do I undo literally a decade of bad habit of not focusing on targets? My eyes just... don't listen

little verge
wet skiff
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ya but like, I'm on over 6 months of trying to practice those 3 things

wet skiff
# quaint karma on what scen

any target and anygame. Even if I turn off crosshair my eyes doesn't quite focus on the target. Like they're looking at my screen and I can see but the eyes aren't focused. I can only focus on them occasionally

little verge
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It takes time, especially if we're breaking bad habits. I'm nearing 500 hours in Kovaaks and I'm still probably worse in some aspects than I was a year ago.

wet skiff
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ik this is something people with ADHD generally really struggle with

little verge
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When I tried to reduce tension in my grip when playing guitar it took me a solid 7 months going really slow and really focusing on it and even now I still have moments where it pops up, but now I know what to look for and can immediately correct it.

wet skiff
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but like the advice and stuff I find online are obviously from more casual players, not people who are really good so I can't really find good advice on it

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like this guys advice is to play lower sense and don't track, just flick

little verge
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I hear if you change DPI to 400 it solves all your problems OMEGALUL

wet skiff
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that's not good advice even for ADHD. Other guy says he's shaky so he turns down sens. But that's not cus of your ADHD, it's cus you aren't good at aiming

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I kind of understand some of them, for example, I can't keep my hands still so my screen is all over the place

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but most of my ADHD isn't expressed physically it's mentally even when medicated. And I don't wanna sit here and try to follow advice from people who are obviously just not good to begin with

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so just struggling to find good advice or ideas to help me overcome these blocks. I know it's gonna take me more time but atm I thinnk I'm treading water and until I can learn to focus my eyes any other improvement is impossible. It doesn't matter how good my actual tracking is if I can't focus on the target because my brain wanders

wary star
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feels like you are playing kovaaks on extra hard mode

junior plinth
wet skiff
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yes, I did. And it works for a short while, but eventually that becomes impossible. I don't have the ability to focus for extended periods of time, it's just not possible

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I even practiced without crosshair for a bit to try and force myself to focus on just the target

junior plinth
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hmm, seems your eyes need a rest

wet skiff
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bro it's 11 AM I been awake for like less than 2 hrs

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I've done like 4 scenarios lol

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how can they need a rest already

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but I rest them for a few minutes every 30 mins

little verge
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Also seems like you're a bit in your own head with it. Like I totally get the frustration, but it also seems exacerbated. It's OK for us to lose focus, we just need to make a note if we've done anything fundamentally wrong and then just reset or take a break.

wet skiff
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inbetween games I close eyes and relax or look outside window

wet skiff
junior plinth
wet skiff
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Like I really do recognize and understand what I'm doing wrong, and I know what I need to do to fix it, but it doesn't fix even while I'm trying to fix, right

floral lodge
wary star
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i hope you overcome it

floral lodge
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bro I am so bad at staic

wet skiff
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static is hard

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so is dynamic

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and tracking

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and target switching

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hmm

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aiming is hard

little verge
floral lodge
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I just wanted 1200

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cause this is my last diamond score everything else is master a few jade scores

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but this shit kills my mental health

wary star
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i haven't done static in ages

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cba

little verge
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I have master on multiclick but my 1w5ts is like 1120. Pure garbo.

wet skiff
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1150 my best

wary star
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yeah i got masters in multiclick

wet skiff
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usually around 1k though

floral lodge
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I am just gonna grind like a smaller version for the rest of the week

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then try put a pb before I go for the weekend

wet skiff
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I actually get around the same scores in advanced as I do intermediate

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which means I probably go too slow, since I'm just as accurate on the smaller dots as the larger ones

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at the same time that's really funny cus it means I could hit GM at the same time or before I hit masters on that scenario LUL

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I'm probably the most inconsistent aimer in the universe

little verge
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Nah, I'd definitely not go as far to say anything like that. You're doing well, just gotta get over that mental block you carry with you. Your Apex clips are a testament to that.

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Kovaaks is good fun and all, but aim is still only part of the equation. You're mechanically talented.

wet skiff
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honestly though my clips though are example of that. I'll get nothing even remotely decent for 5 days, then have a good aim day and I'll grab a dozen good clips in 1 day

little verge
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I have higher scores than some in this discord who would absolutely body me 99% of the time.

wet skiff
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I know I can't be incredible everyday, but my entire goal has been to improve my consistency when it comes to aim training. I don't really care all that much about my scores in kovaaks, tbh. I just want more consistently good aim

little verge
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Also, Apex is an extremely difficult game to get consistent clips off of. You have so many systems in place working against you intentionally. It's just the nature of predatory matchmaking and rotational aim assist/visual clutter/audio clutter.

wet skiff
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ya one of the reasons I barely play apex anymore tbh

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the visual clutter especially. I have such a hard time focusing on targets and in apex it's just that much harder

little verge
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Consistency is largely down to mental and physical condition, but ultimately we're still human and have highs and lows. All we can do is improve our baseline average.

wet skiff
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ya. if I can get my baseline avg around jade, I will be happy. That was always my goal. Avg jade, peak masters maybe a GM or two

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imo that is where any additional aim hits massive diminishing returns. You can always improve aim, but you're gonna be good and consistent enough for any game and then every other skill starts becoming more and more important

little verge
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Exactly, that's why I chose to focus so much on improving my aim: so I would no longer need to focus on it and spend more time in game thinking about my mechanics.

wet skiff
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ya same. If I can get down to focus on target and then stop overaiming while tracking(which I think are really closely related) I think I can hit that. Then I just need to work a bit on decision making, specifically, knowing when to give up space or disengage, and I think I'll be significantly better

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my first instinct when I get shot isn't to seek cover or reposition, it's turn and aim duel. which is not a great strat

wintry cypress
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I got like 5 clips yesterday and the day before i got 1 clip

wet skiff
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I need to play cover a bit better, and do better with acknowledging when it's not my "turn", instead of trying to force it

little verge
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Big same, I do the same thing and just ego challenge every aim duel and forget Apex is a game about attrition over gun skill.

junior plinth
wet skiff
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Any FPS really, except for mega fast TTK games like call of duty, is a game of attrition. Applying pressure, maintaining map control, and understanding "turns" is 99% of fps gaming outside of aim

little verge
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Only game where you can land in front of 7 people with no cover and get 5 of them before you go down.

wet skiff
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Yea. It's tough because if you're really playing to be the best, that's actually a mistake. Like, sure, you're gonna a 5:1 kdr, but you are better off playing for long streaks and map control if your ultimate goal is to have a big impact on the game and play for victory

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If you kill 3, then give space during their turn, and kill the other 4, you've done better, even though it won't look as impressive or flashy

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in BF it can be really tough to give space or reset, though, because ofthe fast TTK. So you have to decide whether you have enough of an advantage to just kill them all or if you want to risk potentially being shot by someone you maybe could have killed in a more risky plaay

little verge
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To be fair most of the time that happens it's because I'm grapple hooking into the unknown and people are just "playing with their friends" aka two full squads with Respawn beacons and claymores everywhere roleplaying their favourite milsim in discord.

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BF players are a whole different breed.

wet skiff
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ya it's a different game. I think I started struggling a lot when I shifted mindset when I was streaming

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I started trying to play flashy and make big plays, but got into a bad habit, instead of playing smarter and for longer kill streaks, because despite it being better, it's not entertaining and doesn't look as good

covert mauve
little verge
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Breakthrough is just hoping the other 31/63 people are capable of standing near a single point OMEGALUL

wet skiff
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well, what I'm saying doesn't mean you are less aggressive or don't get as many kills

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being aggressive is important and that's part of the "taking space" and map control. You can't get map control by being passive, and you can't take space by being passive, either

little verge
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You also just hope like hell you're not queued into defense.

wet skiff
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All it means is that you recognize when your turn is over and then give up space(if you need too) until it's your turn again.

For example, think about apex. You'll see Sweet do this all the time. If you need to pop a bat, do you stand your ground behind cover and pop a bat, or do you backup to the next piece of cover and pop a batt there?

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99% of the time, you want to backup to the next piece of cover. If you stay where you are and pop a batt, you will get naded or pushed. If you backup to next piece of cover, you buy yourself twice as much time and give yourself the chance to catch the enemy while they are out of cover

nova girder
wet skiff
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And turn that around, too. If you crack someone, and they pop a bat right in that cover, you know their exact position and exact timing. You can nade or push them and you'll be at a huge advantage. If they backup and you swing that corner and they're not there, you are now exposed, they're behind cover and finished their batt and will damage you.

nova girder
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I thought masters was the baseline

wet skiff
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so that's all I'm talking about when I say give up space when it's not your turn

lethal wraith
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that firing range is wild

wet skiff
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I like how NOW they update the firing range

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when that was needed so long ago, before TDM and control was a regular playlist

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lol

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also no more construction that's a W

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BIG W

lethal wraith
wet skiff
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they reworked the multilevel buildings cus they couldn't fix sound LMAO

lethal wraith
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pepeLaughing he doesn't know

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oh shit

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same with harvester

wet skiff
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yea but it's in some shit part of map

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that no one goes too

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๐Ÿ™‚

lethal wraith
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I mean it's going to be a big spot for rank I think

wet skiff
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actually that location does kind of suck, it's right next to big maude

lethal wraith
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"NEW VAULT NEAR SKYHOOK"

wet skiff
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which is a great drop location

lethal wraith
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finally it makes sense

little verge
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They're probably just trying to stop 99% of the lobby landing fragment and dying by minute 5.

lethal wraith
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When the feature launches, all players will start with every weapon at level 1 and can start progressing their weapon levels by using them in any game mode. These levels are account wide and do not reset with seasons. Having a weapon in hand, dealing damage, securing kills, and fighting with style will all generate Weapon XP for that weapon. Every 20 levels, a weapon specific trial will unlock for you to test your skill with that weapon and reward you for completion. Get your weapon to level 100 and finish all five trials to fully โ€œmasterโ€ that weapon and earn the final rewards. Each weapon mastery track will earn players weapon-specific badges, lifetime performance trackers, Legendary weapon mastery banner frames, and** a guaranteed Legendary skin for each weapon.**

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ok so they did do it

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@floral lodge

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)

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didn't last long

wet skiff
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I like how they finally figured out how to walljump for their gameplay videos lol

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like the guy who makes these was so proud of himself for figuring it out he did it like 5 times

little verge
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As per usual though it's a lot of little fluff but probably nothing at all with the extremely contentious points that stop me from playing. Good for the default skin lifelines I guess.

wet skiff
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just wait till he discovers tap strafing. His mind gonna be blown

lethal wraith
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Be careful though โ€“ the Evac Tower has a limited duration and will slowly take damage over time. Enemies and allies can also shoot the balloon to accelerate this process, destroying both the Evac Tower and your hopes of escaping. Pay attention to where you deploy because your evac may be hotter than anticipated!

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yeah no one is going to be able to use this in ranked

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I meant comp

little verge
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FR, balloon will get focused by 10 teams all at once.

lethal wraith
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it doesn't look very tall

devout tusk
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PISSED

lethal wraith
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imagine guy rolls up

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10k kills on charge rifle

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what do you do

little verge
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Fuck, I was just typing that lol

vivid willow
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idk what is up with my apex, i stutter like hell on the main menu, and the game doesn't even go fullscreen

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the game has never ran without problems smh

little verge
lethal wraith
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what the hell da dog doin

vivid willow
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wat da crow doin

wet skiff
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if you figure it out lemme know

wet skiff
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@quaint karma next time you on kovaaks, can you record a run of MCA-8 auto balanced fast strafes

mortal hatch
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hmmmmmmmm

wet skiff
# quaint karma

ty. So it looks like you deliberately track a bit slower instead of trying to match speed exactly. That makes a lot of sense for anticipating short strafes. When it comes to in-game aim, how do you decide between matching strafe speed or underaiming like this, in anticipation of many shorter strafes?

quaint karma
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well if they start short strafing they generally keep doing it

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idk its just like a technique you apply when you see someone short strafing

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and if they stop

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well youre gonna miss for a tiny bit ig

near drift
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you train your aim so you dont have to think about this shit

unborn token
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w pb

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long awaited

near drift
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if you train you will def do more dmg but this kinda strafe is very hard for mnk to one clip

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dont get me wrong though its still a bad strafe

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i feel like its a bad strafe because someone with shit aim could potentially do as much dmg to you as someone with good aim by not moving their mouse at all and just keeping it at centre mass

wet skiff
near drift
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oh it does

wet skiff
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against tracking I think it's insanely strong. Just not in apex because of controller

near drift
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maybe, but i feel like in comp games you are only as good as people you lose to

wet skiff
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trying to hit a kiriko doing that in OW is really tough. No momentum. If you're cassidy it's ok cus clicking, otherwise if you're on a tracking heavy champ like soldier it's really tough to get good damage in

near drift
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and if you lose to an mnk player that doesnt have to move his mouse to track then ur dog

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at the end of the day its best to strafe with bias and complain about aim assist

wet skiff
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if you do that kinda strafe in apex you're throwing, already said don't do it. Chances your opponent are controller anyway, doing short strafes is suicide

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but short strafes can have bias, there's no reason to say you won't have a bias

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you can short strafe quick with bias. Which is what most people do in OW, even at masters ranks

near drift
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hmm

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good point

wet skiff
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I agree bias-less short strafes isn't good, especially if you do it multiple times in the same game and don't switch it up

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honestly though that's actually definitely something I can improve on, right there. Recognizing when my enemies are going to short strafe versus when they'll be long strafing and adjusting my aiming strategy better. That and decoupling my movement from my opponents better, sometimes I force the mirror to hard and end up baiting myself into biasless short strafing by trying to anti-mirror them too hard. I should be doing strafes that keep me evasive instead of trying to anti-mirror

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I think forcing the anti-mirror is a habit I picked up in apex, since the best way to strafe vs controllers is anti-mirror into long strafe, but I am applying it in other games where controllers don't exist and basing my strafe off the enemies strafe too much

near drift
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maybe just me but i feel like this process isnt as conscious as you think it should be

wet skiff
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It's not, but that's part of issue right? I taught myself a way to strafe, but then apply it unconsciously everywhere even when it's not relevant. Except the method of strafe I use was specific to apex

devout tusk
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People short strafe in ow cause you just become a blur and gurantee dodge like 50% of shots, you can legit just mash ad and ctrl brainlessly

wet skiff
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so I need to consciously apply my strafe to every game I play until each game I have a good or unique strafe for that game

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and it becomes unconscious again and I can swap to correct strafe for whichever game I'm playing without having to think about it

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rewording it I guess I'm using a niche strafe tech as a general strafe tech and hurting myself as a result

little verge
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Yeah, short strafes only work in games with fast AD speeds.

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Most of the time you'll otherwise eat too many shots by someone not even moving their aim, and it's awful vs roller.

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Better to long strafe, short mixup, and go back to long at least in modern FPS.

devout tusk
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Your strafe should be conscious tbh

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In apex for sure

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Try to choke out the enemy into a corner type shit

near drift
unborn token
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As long as your strafe is uncomfortable to hit for the other guy

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Is all that matters ig

wary star
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and once you get enough reps in

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you do it instinctively

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if you are interested in dodging and strafe aiming you should watch sam's coaching vods and shit

wary star
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1 sec

worn bloom
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Goated map rotation

wary star
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i am just happy

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that i don't have to play bm

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bm's been in rotation for half a year

crimson shale
wary star
crimson shale
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damm

worn bloom
crimson shale
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not just that

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i was frustated

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never playing valo again man, it made me question my existence

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i became depressun

lethal wraith
mortal hatch
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cool af

quaint karma
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nice

worn bloom
lethal wraith
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he RE-45 returns to floor loot, being replaced in the Care Package by the L-Star, and the Alternator and Sentinel are heading into the Crafter.

#

what the fuck

#

I don't even want to think about a care package lstar

unborn token
#

I knew it

#

L star is so good

lethal wraith
#

Noko salivating

near drift
#

no joke tho that tactical better ramp up slow on the victim

#

imagine not being allowed to shoot in a shooter

#

hoping it serves to punsish lmgs, people running at you with the guys ult or shiela

#

or it should at least be a skillshot

lethal wraith
#

playing apex in 2023

#

got superior positioning on top of a building

#

enemy team horizon lifts on me, wallhacks me and disables my ability to shoot

#

cry

#

"When season 17, Arsenal, launches on May 9, it will bring a โ€œsignificant foundational shiftโ€ to ranked that includes a new points system, matchmaking updates, split changes, and a renewed focus on competitive integrity."

#

competitive integrity?

#

that should be separated input matchmaking

#

but I doubt it is

near drift
#

there has to be a reason ranked is so hard to get right for modern games

lethal wraith
#

Key points:

โ€œNew scoring changes, like only receiving LP for unique kills and assists, means you can no longer farm your points with respawn beacons.โ€
โ€œCheaters can no longer sandbag their points to go stomp on lower-skill players.โ€
The required account level to access ranked is being increased from level 20 to level 50
weโ€™re adding provisional matches to better gauge placement at the beginning of your ranked journey for the season.
implementation of new detection methods for cheaters
No matter your ranked level, the entry cost is now static and the scoring for placement remains consistent in every division. Bonuses are now applied to your score based on kills, assists, how challenging of a match you were in, and your ladder level in relation to your place in a new hidden MMR skill rating.```
devout tusk
worn bloom
#

But its crazy steamcharts shows some of the biggest numbers for Apex but I swear queues are worse now then they've ever been. And I run into the same ppl all the time in my matches

wet skiff
#

they can't coexist. But todays matchmaking is alll about engagement

#

not quality

vagrant pelican
#

cheaters

wet skiff
#

I'm sure that the MMR system is going to suck for MNK players

#

here's what it's gonna do

#

Gonna look only at cqc aim with r9. The more consecutive hits you hit on avg, the higher your MMR

#

hoenstly I'm really curious about how they're gonna do MMR. If it uses actual combat stats it'll heavily favor controller players

final forge
#

it sounds interesting though, maybe now you dont have to spend 600 games a season to get pred

near drift
#

it locks on

wet skiff
near drift
#

50 dmg for shooting what 10 bullets of a p20?

#

looks like he cant just use it in a 1 tho

#

but still cant feel good to go against

wet skiff
#

so it's like maggie

#

you can use it while shooting

#

without interrupting anything

lethal wraith
#

the clips will be nutty

#

leave someone at 20 hp

#

920 degree spin

worn bloom
#

Taking damage for using your own gun is bad design in a so called competitive FPS or any FPS for that matter

carmine viper
#

Agreed

worn bloom
#

I hope its awful

#

COD hasnt done anything this stupid

carmine viper
#

Prob time for me to perma uninstall apex

worn bloom
#

That says a lot

#

I didnt play Apex or any FPS for a year but Xdefiant got me back and nothing scratches that itch for me so Im stuck with Apex

carmine viper
#

R5r good enough to scratch itch

worn bloom
#

Is that active? And could I get banned for it?

devout tusk
#

Yeah and youll go to jail

lethal wraith
#

honestly?

#

the funniest part is this character doesn't even sound too good in comparison to other legends

#

like the ult is pretty bonkers, but the tac and passive I don't mind

devout tusk
#

Can he fly or not

lethal wraith
#

I would rather have to face ballistic than horizon or seer or caustic

#

he can't fly

devout tusk
#

He flies in the trailer smh

lethal wraith
#

his ult reload speed is fucking bonkers

devout tusk
#

Hes just worse than i expected

lethal wraith
#

Ballistic with R9 will be a monster

devout tusk
#

I though hed just have infinity mags during ult

lethal wraith
#

yeah I agree

#

but at the same time I can definitely see his ult be game winning for teamfights

devout tusk
#

Yeah it will be goot

#

Omg i cant type

lethal wraith
#

but overall I think he's going to be the lesser cancer of the game

#

compared to other legends

#

so I count this as a win

devout tusk
#

But his ult plus maggie ult imagine

#

Basically kiriko ult

#

Overwatch legends

lethal wraith
#

I want to know how fast Rampart reloads a devotion lmao

#

with his ult

devout tusk
#

O man

lethal wraith
#

you might be able to run a pk on his sling though

#

it's probably the least worst shotgun with no bolt

#

but at the same time it looks he can put golden guns in there?

#

which is fucking ridiculous

#

would kinda defeat the point of the sling

devout tusk
#

I thought it becomes golden

lethal wraith
#

probably shouldn't be able to put stuff in there or care package guns

lethal wraith
#

but it has a 2x

devout tusk
#

Ew

#

Im a 1x goober

#

All i can use

unborn token
#

is this tenma dude from here

#

or am i tripping

unborn token
#

im pretty sure ive seen a similar name in r5

#

thats why

#

weird

spice swift
#

Thought on next map rotation in season 17 ?

hollow anchor
#

likely KC, WE, and some other map

wary star
#

it's

#

kc we and oly

spice swift
#

Yepp

#

@unborn token we got the almost same sens, tell me is the skypad the best pad for tracking ?

turbid cape
#

if I turn texture streaming budget up a bit, does it increase visual clutter?

#

I'm trying to find settings where I can make enemy models pop a bit more but without turning up bullshit like smoke from the barrel, muzzle flash

#

all that shit

turbid cape
#

aight, i might try lowering res and turning up some settings and see if i can find sum

#

some cunt was shooting an L star at me and i just straight up couldnt see him

#

like I was flashbanged. obv that wont change with any settings, just thought it was funny lolz

wary star
#

yep

#

that's like a L star feature atp

turbid cape
#

fuckin hate not being able to see what I'm shooting at. If I jump over to any other game I surprise myself that my tracking is better than I thought. Then I realize it's because I can actually fuckin see

spice swift
fair trellis
#

but targets can still disappear pepeLaff

turbid cape
zenith mulch
#

anyone trynna play some apex

dull falcon
#

said the controller player

hollow anchor
#

When you master letting go of the right stick

dull falcon
#

i suprised that i can still play well enough with 30 cm i pretty much done everything on 43

hollow anchor
#

you can play on p much any sens if you practice it

#

ive played on anything from 57 to 25 but found my sweet spot is 43

#

I think I liked 38 as well

somber turtle
#

how long do u guys think it takes to learn to drive

dull falcon
#

1hr everyday

vague wind
#

74cm feels like cheating

#

has anyone tried higher

somber turtle
#

oh small bot

vague wind
#

apex actually

somber turtle
#

ur kidding?

vague wind
#

im on a pretty fast pad

#

im not

somber turtle
vague wind
#

: D

somber turtle
#

i am on 28 cm right now

vague wind
#

i like to go extremes. yesterday i wsa on 14 cm

somber turtle
#

i like it

#

fast

#

i am trying new grip and i tried valorant yesterday with 28 cm

#

i got 26 kills havent played in 3 months

#

i am getting used to fast sens now

#

wait if i play fast sens a lot and play low sens am i limiting my aiming potential

vague wind
#

i think if anything that would improve mouse control so i dont see how it would hurt

#

i feel like ive gotten much better from trying new sens regularly

fair trellis
somber turtle
#

i only got cash now

#

is there a free one

#

i have used the onee

toxic valley
#

Damn. I'm over here at 25cm wondering if you guys are getting mousepad burns on your arms

flint grotto
#

Lmfao i used to play about 43cm on an mpc450 way back

#

That shit was rough

#

Like the pad

#

Sometimes id actually feel the burn

#

Like if i moved with too much pressure

#

But it wasnt common

little verge
#

My Hien has claimed many an arm hair.

toxic valley
#

Is increasing sens after getting better aim common?

#

Decrease aim to improve then bring it back?

little verge
#

Changing is just a natural part of the process, and you'll also find what works for each game you play. I maybe settle on a sens in game for like a month before I switch it up.

#

It's important to remember that there's never a perfect sens, so don't be afraid to experience with a variety of sensible ranges.

toxic valley
#

ok thanks @little verge

hollow anchor
#

swimmers shave their heads to move ever so slightly faster in the water. I think its time we aimer do the same and shave off our arm hairs to increase speed by 0.0001 cm/s

#

its obv the reason I miss so many shots

hollow anchor
little verge
lapis moat
#

please permaban that humham2 person

#

on the server

#

im on my knees

#

hes literally only there to waste my time and i dont think my existence should be used like that

lapis moat
#

that guy runs away from every fight, plays headglitches and gets farmed

#

just literally there to waste peoples time

vague wind
#

ok i just got spun around maybe 74cm is too low, im wondering about in game mouse accel and if anyones tried it

#

i imagine if youre going to use accel youre better off making a custom one with raw accel

sonic junco
#

yeah just make your own curve

#

also no idea why you would play anything above 43 cm for apex

vague wind
#

im new to kbm so my approach is to soften misses, and its really hard to have rough misses on such a low sens. i get so much free smoothness and im not getting lost mid fight

#

great for building speed too

wary star
vague nexus
#

No more realm?

#

What will the 1kd plat players in realm do, now that they cant flex that they are in realm

quaint karma
#

like LITERALLY exactly

lapis moat
#

just do it

#

please

quaint karma
#

itโ€™s gotten to the point where i just type in rest to skip him

#

on a genburten mnk video

#

๐Ÿ’€๐Ÿ’€

vague wind
#

im pretty sure moving while looting and getting one clipped in style evens it out

#

its like half the people in control have world class tracking i wonder how

floral lodge
#

better input

vague wind
#

watching controller pros try mnk is actually super fun, you get to see what it looks like when someones tracking is miles above their mouse control

floral lodge
#

gen is actually good on mnk

#

like a lot better than most

vague wind
#

yeah def

#

also kinda shows to me how mechanics are actually the more trivial part of the game. having any fucking clue whats going on is basically nearly everything

floral lodge
#

yeah

lethal wraith
quaint karma
#

gen isnt just actually good

#

i think hes better than almost anyone ive seen play mnk on apexs

#

apex

edgy crane
#

I mean most of the roller players have alot of experience on mnk

floral lodge
#

man what

#

I get 1250 on 1w5ts pokeball but on the bench scen i cant get 1200

#

scammer get scammed

light rapids
#

flatline mastery
light mag

lethal wraith
#

it said the same thing on a charge rifle

light rapids
#

skin development > quality control for their blogposts xD
who would have thought

floral lodge
#

no new skins for weapon mastery

#

rip

#

you should get a reactive skin for completing weapon mastery

#

mfs on they way to complete the flatline mastery

light rapids
#

but ngl the new season sounds hella interesting

#

best map rotation since literally a year or smt

floral lodge
#

yeah i want to see the firing range and how rank plays out

#

to me rn with some of the changes it just sounds like pubs with a ranked badge

#

and placement is rewarded more than kp

light rapids
floral lodge
#

I don't really understand the whole matchmaking will not be ranked based it will be skill based

#

entry cost for all ranks same I guess is fine idk

#

but does that actually mean that if lower ranked players go for a good game streak they will get matched with higher "rank" players

#

I think there will be a rank inflation next season anyway

light rapids
#

i guess so
wheres the blog post to the ranked changes anyways xD
cant find it on the apex website could you link it :D

floral lodge
#

but its good that genuine pred level players won't have to deal with keeping up with unrealistic rp caps

#

it was actually on twitter hold on

#

apparently bc rp is removed

#

there won't be like a phyiscal "gain x amount of rp" to rank up

#

like how there is right now

light rapids
#

woah its called lp now instead of rp to emphasize the groundbreaking changes they made

floral lodge
#

refxrmed said league has lp system

#

idk what it is I never played league

light rapids
#

me neither lol

floral lodge
#

but tbh balancing a br ranked mode is so ass

#

compared to cs or league where realistically in a game there is 2 outcomes

#

w or l

#

but in apex you have like 20 possible outcomes and then with kp all those outcomes have their values changed

light rapids
floral lodge
#

idk sounds like a mess defo not a job I would want to do

light rapids
#

cant really imagine how thats gonna play out

floral lodge
#

idk I hope ranked is good next season but I feel the inflation coming ngl

light rapids
floral lodge
#

its still better I would say

#

not as good as pre nerf tho

light rapids
#

too bad i missed out on it

floral lodge
#

idk it makes me remember how h1z1 did ranked

#

like there was no actual ranked

light rapids
floral lodge
#

it was only solo duos or fives but based on your top 10 games in each playlist you were given a rank

#

like it was mega casual

light rapids
#

sounds fun ngl
but not very rank-y

floral lodge
#

I have a weird feeling next season might be the same

#

but then they are gonna reward placement etc more than kills so idk

floral lodge
#

yeah arena at its core was a good idea just executed so awfully

edgy crane
#

Yep

floral lodge
#

I would be super happy if it got an entire rework and came back

floral lodge
#

and if they obviously improve anti cheat

#

but I also get a feeling that arenas will come back in a few seasons

edgy crane
#

And make it impossible to 6 man

light rapids
#

Control and gun run are wayyyy worse imo

floral lodge
#

like it had its own community and stuff

#

and respawn will probably figure out some sort of way they can gain from bringing arena back

arctic violet
#

gun run so baad

floral lodge
#

like idk arena exclusive skin bundles or some shit

edgy crane
mortal hatch
mortal hatch
floral lodge
#

also now the range is massive is it still 3 ppl max

edgy crane
#

So you can have your own arena games

light rapids
light rapids
potent idol
#

all i hope is that they increase the value of kp at the start of matches. feels pretty bad to have like 6 kp and still be negative with 10 teams left

#

even a +0 at that point would be nice in diamond

vague nexus
#

Bruh, the weapon mastery should have lije a hilden gun ig you get like 10k kills on it

crimson shale
#

i was having perfect 100 fps and then my dumbass decided to change some settings and now even after reverting it wont get the previous fps

#

help

#

i get 100 fps but it randomly drops to 80 or smthn

#

can anyone send me their videoconfig.txt

wary star
potent idol
floral lodge
#

the master of the puffs

wary star
#

and he's doing everything you can on mnk

quaint karma
#

all i saw was a superglide

lapis moat
#

that code snake dude was convinced im either roller or in PL

#

on the server today

#

btw who tryna run ranked next season

#

will shoot gun and listen to IGL 6 quadrillion hours practicing 1v1s will not lose to anyone on mnk

wary star
#

LOL

wary star
#

he can do everything a mnk can do

#

and he does that

#

of all things

lapis moat
#

for fw im down to play ranked

#

NA even

shrewd pollen
lapis moat
#

he means well its ok

#

not too bad either

shrewd pollen
#

Time ago he accused me of cheating

#

On mnk

#

And roller too

#

This guy

near drift
#

like does he actually think he is hard to hit?

wary star
#

he's probably been doing it to a lot of other people

shrewd pollen
wary star
#

built up that confidence

near drift
#

i swear the randoms on r5 be the funniest

shrewd pollen
#

Or mnk too

near drift
#

guy runs for 2s in a straight line to wall bounce

#

as i can see him

wary star
#

LOL

#

wait i have a goated

#

r5 clip

#

npc

near drift
#

is there a streamer to watch for using movement tech sensibly in fights?

#

i feel like people either dont use them or overdo it

#

no middle ground

wary star
#

chensou

near drift
#

maybe nate

#

chensou hardly uses movement from what iv seen

wary star
#

yeah he uses it when necessary

near drift
#

dont get me wrong he is top 3 in the world on mnk for me

wary star
#

i only watch my friends on twitch but aside from chensou i don't really know others

#

who use movement sensibly

#

lyric is probably doing it sensibly now that he is in the comp scene but idk

minor root
#

why is my adaptive resolution fps target locked to 100

quaint karma
lethal wraith
#

honestly probably stormen too

near drift
#

i only refrain from saying he is the best because i dont like speaking in absolutes

#

i feel like theres this mechanical cap in mnk

#

and there are so many people on that level

lethal wraith
#

don't think I have seen anyone with CO consistency

#

don't think I have seen a player that's good at everything mechanically involved either

#

even just aim-wise

#

like recoil control I don't think anyone compares to what I have seen from taskmaster

arctic violet
#

for y'all is better otsu mid/soft or hien soft for apex?

near drift
#

a few i can name are lou(inconsistent) , nate(very dependent on 'vibes'), mac(can shoot any gun), taskmaster and hardecki i would put above these guys

#

then theres chensou above the cap

#

he has roller consistency, go on his stream there is hardly any moment a mag isnt beaming

#

i dont watch hollow

#

so i dont know

lethal wraith
#

hollow is kind of an allrounder basically

near drift
#

but if i had to make a top 3, from what i have seen

#

it would be crust then CO then taskmaster

#

the only reason i put crust above CO is i think its a bit different 1 clipping people in pubs and doing it in the peak of comp apex

#

i think Chensou has better aim but i would still rank crust higher

lethal wraith
#

I don't think anyone is close to mnk cap personally

#

it's just kind of hard to see

#

the differences

#

you would have to watch a lot of hours of every player

quaint karma
#

chensou would 10-0 crust

quaint karma
#

he panics way too much and gets hella shaky

lethal wraith
#

that's hard to say

near drift
#

but generally the best people in any sport are usually known

lethal wraith
#

has CO even played competitively?

#

also crust just has shakey aim

near drift
lethal wraith
#

man's jittering the wingman

lethal wraith
#

as we know the best apex player is some kid living in China

near drift
#

i understand it but i dont like it

lethal wraith
#

lmao I was just making a joke

near drift
#

i think the best players are well known

#

lol okok

pallid horizon
potent idol
#

i like Ras, he has a lot of ranked + decent amount of solo trios videos on his youtube. uses movement very elegantly during fights i would say

#

crylix, e36_aimbot

#

naming asian players as they're no t very often talked about

near drift
#

i dont really watch them so i couldnt say

#

but i have heard of them

lethal wraith
#

oh shit

#

FunFPS

#

deserves a mention for sure

#

his movement is also pretty good

arctic violet
worn bloom
#

I tried the video config settings posted above and this game would be unbearable playing it like that lol. Its like someone smeared grease over the monitor

quaint karma
#

i have working eyes

#

and they tell me that chensous aim is way better

lethal wraith
#

nosh team at 90% strength

quaint karma
#

farming the double xps

lethal wraith
#

gamer

arctic violet
vagrant pelican
#

Repost in case anybody hasnโ€™t watched this masterpiece

wintry cypress
worn bloom
#

The players on R5 are some of the best players I ever faced lol wtfff

wicked grove
#

I have a question

#

I watched the Sam video of him helping hollow but he kept saying you didnโ€™t have bias there etc what is bias? It had me confused. Is it when you need to pick which way to strafe or is it when your back is at the wall or when in bad positioning

#

You strafe out of that

wintry cypress
wicked grove
#

Ohhh okay

#

Thank you !

near drift
#

i think its more like favouring one strafe direction over another

#

consider the x axis, strafing left or right

#

a strafe with no bias would be like L-R, L-R,L-R

#

with bias it would be LL-R,LL-R,LL,R

#

LL>L obviously

near drift
near drift
#

correct me if im wrong anyone but thats my understanding of it

#

how tf do i even tag this guy

quaint karma
#

yes

near drift
worn bloom
#

On R5 when you leave a server, do you exit at the game or does it eventually take you back to lobby?

near drift
wicked grove
#

It makes more sense now

lethal wraith
wintry cypress
#

like i said if i wanted to antimirror my favored direction would be left

#

goddamn we have so many vt masters in this chat now

little verge
dull falcon
#

I wish i was masters

slim zenith
#

I wish I was gold complete Waaa

dull falcon
#

Gold complete is like so good

wary star
#

why do people play like this in pubs

#

i am surprised i killed him

quaint karma
#

mf came out ADSed

dull falcon
#

Had that been a controller player

little verge
#

Not to mention uncharged Nemesis that close.

#

And since Zai was already pretty much on top of the loot bin there was a predictable strafe.

near drift
wintry cypress
flint tartan
#

False, controller players dont miss the 3rd burst

lethal wraith
#

Fuse pulled out like an NPC from a trailer

weary mist
#

finallyyyyy

worn bloom
#

This man HisWattson really beat the game and is doing side missions lol

floral lodge
#

pain

lethal wraith
#

"To account for the competitive advantage gained as a premade squad, premade duos and trios effectively have small advantages that are added to their teamโ€™s MMR during matchmaking. This way the intensity and fairness of your experience will remain relatively the same whether youโ€™re playing as a solo, duo, or trio. "

wicked grove
potent idol
#

ty

unborn token
#

fucking throwing

vague nexus
#

damn

#

in my lobby we call that a 6k

quaint karma
#

damn

#

only 800 damage off

#

almost got the 7k

floral lodge
#

so close to 7k dude fr

lethal wraith
#

damn fuck it

#

almost 10k at this point

floral lodge
unborn token
#

fuck all of you guys

flint tartan
#

how tf do you even do 6.2k dmg

#

especially with teammates doing that much dmg too

lethal wraith
#

LTM

unborn token
#

yeah but its shit

#

i died a couple of times i couldve gotten a 7k

#

if i wasnt a fucking moron jumping into people

flint tartan
#

do u have a yt or someshit i wanna see how tf someone has to play to do that dmg

unborn token
#

i dont bro but ima prob post a tage

#

idfk

#

ive never had above 4k issh plus on tdm

#

usually they end fairly fast

#

idk what that one was

flint tartan
#

did they all feel like bots or someshit or what

unborn token
#

i mean the majority of them where dogshit compared to me

#

but idk

#

like 3 of them were on the roller

vague nexus
#

you just shoot people in tdm or control

#

and dont die

#

5k easy

floral lodge
#

play nemesis

unborn token
#

look at my man danny

#

majority of people in ltms

#

are the casual

#

toddlers on controller

#

or the mnk dads wth 5 kids

floral lodge
#

solo to master using 1 hand only

#

mouse with 14 buttons

#

aint no way

lethal wraith
#

wouldn't this be easier on roller

floral lodge
#

maybe

#

but how do you do 1 hand only on roller

#

without gyro

#

or super bendy fingers

lethal wraith
#

@floral lodge

#

KEKL lmao that fucking pose

#

looks so funny

floral lodge
#

dude is a philosopher

lethal wraith
floral lodge
#

he is deep in thought

unborn token
#

Real

lethal wraith
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this would be op if you're playing Loba

worn bloom
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Is Noko using a mouse with a joystick on it or something? Also wtffff is his aim, looks like aim assist

vague nexus
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he is using the razer mouse with a gungilion buttons

worn bloom
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"Noko is using the Corsair SCIMITAR for the Hand Solo to Masters challenge It's a 12 button mouse with keybinds to move and do everything without the need of a keyboard"

vague nexus
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oh damn

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it looked like a razer mouse

dull falcon
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So mfs always complain ab the server what are better servers or like the upgrades

dull falcon
wintry cypress
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Chensou ozisan type reactivity

flint grotto
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There is no solution rn

worn bloom
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Apex has THE worst servers of any major game

dull falcon
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Example of games with good server

lethal wraith
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you don't need any examples

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because Apex is an example when people ask what shit servers look like

dull falcon
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I just want to understand the server thing in general

worn bloom
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Servers are those things youre not aware of unless they're bad (like Apex)

hollow anchor
dull falcon
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Yo y

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I need a 30 min warmup playlist for apex

dull falcon
unborn token
dull falcon
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also it really helped me with plaza

unborn token
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You can do the beginning maybe

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Till mid of playlist

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It'll surely be 30

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And it's gucci

dull falcon
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idk but im adjusting

unborn token
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Bc rn I am at bed

unborn token
dull falcon
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aight

dull falcon
dim jewel
somber turtle
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apex has worst delay like i tap strafe corner in my screen i was behind cover and still got killed?

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what is thisss?

dull falcon
lapis moat
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let me crouch on the karma server and its over

wary star
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LOL

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get mirror'd on

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smh

quaint karma
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thereโ€™s absolutely no reason for you to not be able to place your crosshair on any target doing anything

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aside from your limited reaction time

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but people miss things that are very much not reaction time dependent

light rapids
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and its very managable

quaint karma
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yeah

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with aim assist

light rapids
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nope

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was a counterstrike clone

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with no aim assist

vague nexus
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I saw a warowl video where they played on rollers

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Steam controler was banned duo to the touch pad

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Cause it was too good

quaint karma
floral lodge
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1500 hours on mobile gaming

quaint karma
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i scrolled down

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it says 1 year

floral lodge
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how did you even figure out

quaint karma
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warowl hasnt changed his videos in one bit

floral lodge
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thats how many hours you spent

light rapids
quaint karma
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i mean in poorer parts of the world mobile gaming is how most people play games

floral lodge
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god damn

quaint karma
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since everyone has a smartphone

floral lodge
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I once played pubg mobile on a pc emulator

quaint karma
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but no console or pc

floral lodge
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I so would've played apex mobile on pc if it was possible

light rapids
floral lodge
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it was kinda funny seeing the bots run around tho

light rapids
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not even comparable to the true mobile experience

floral lodge
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some girl that used to work with me is a twitch streamer

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but she's a mobile streamer

light rapids
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but i wouldnt wanna play on a smartphone really
bcs thats way to small

quaint karma
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i mean isaw people had crazy aim on mobile but ijust assumed it was mostly because of aim assist

floral lodge
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like she has a whole pc set up and stuff to stream but streams mobile games

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like codm apex and any other mobile games

light rapids
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like codm and pubg

quaint karma
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also reason i said what isaid earlier is that you wont get aim assist on that controller

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at least i dont see how you would get it

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unless the touchpad thing converts the input like a xim converts mouse input

light rapids
floral lodge
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I looked more into that rewasd thing btw you know ppl sell configs

quaint karma
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yeah that guy

light rapids
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tf is rawessd

quaint karma
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those are configs