I wouldn't even do that. Not even i general
#apex
carmine viper
zenith mulch
what should I do, Im currently using lg56 method
quaint karma
look at ottr
his aim is bad
well idk what your aim looks like
his aim is prob better than yours but
zenith mulch
worse than his lol
dull falcon
Ottr be giving aim tips
zenith mulch
I have really bad game sense
quaint karma
his mechanics look like those of the average master player
zenith mulch
I mained cod for 2 years
dull falcon
Ottr has better mechanics than me
quaint karma
I have really bad game sense
only way to get better gamesense is to play more
maybe do vod reviews
maybe watch good players and analyze what theyre doing
maybe pay for a coach too ig
dull falcon
Ya got any precise tracking stuff I saw they made one for overwatch but it's aimless stuff only
I mean aim labs
zenith mulch
I've been playing lots lately, 100+ hours last 2 weeks, and I have watched a lot of videos recently, I just struggle iwth decision making ig
quaint karma
i have close to 3000h and i still find my gamesense lacking a lot of the time
dull falcon
I have trouble making space and taking space
But I can usually make calls on like rotations and stuff like that
cunning crane
that's diamond though
dull falcon
that's diamond though
If I played a bit more I would b master on apex
alpine trail
i have close to 3000h and i still find my gamesense lacking a lot of the time
i have no idea what to do in fights my decision making is so ass i keep fighting 1v3 s
cunning crane
I literally have 1000h in apex and I'm struggling in d3 what the fk is this game!
my bad, 1100h
fml
barren ivy
Aim training definitely helps unless ur referring to something else
Nvm I saw u refer to ranks
dull falcon
alot of people will like think theyre good but their mechanics are bad
barren ivy
Yep classic broken moon teams out of nowhere
barren ivy
alot of people will like think theyre good but their mechanics are bad
Ya my mechanics are average I would say but aim above average
dull falcon
hence why mfs will have 1k hrs on apex and do like the benchmarks and not even hit gold
barren ivy
hence why mfs will have 1k hrs on apex and do like the benchmarks and not even h...
What’s a good way to get better mechanics just practice I guess?
Never been a good mechanical player
dull falcon
just practice ingame some ppl are like that but for me
i like just doing kovaaks its sfun
barren ivy
Bet ok
Ya kovaaks isn’t bad when I listen with music
But when doing the same scenario multiple times it gets annoying sometimes 😭
zenith mulch
facts thats why I usually randomize it so it doesnt get boring
barren ivy
facts thats why I usually randomize it so it doesnt get boring
Ya I gotta start doing that
alpine trail
i am good at static i did one scenario 50 times
zenith mulch
lol
alpine trail
but it isn't as impressive as people at top
dull falcon
But when doing the same scenario multiple times it gets annoying sometimes 😭
thjin about improving
refining
literally the only way
dont play for scored
scores
@quaint karma why is this harder than vss
quaint karma
idk i dont play either
echo inlet
<@182610108386246656> why is this harder than vss
I hate this scene the only way to get high scores in plaza is memorizing each bots individual pattern and edge tracking
dull falcon
I hate this scene the only way to get high scores in plaza is memorizing each bo...
the first bot im trying to get a fell for getting back on target smoothly
echo inlet
the first bot im trying to get a fell for getting back on target smoothly
first bot was actually my biggest challenge when I was grinding for master that mf superglides every 2 seconds lmao
I also did much better on high sens in plaza
probably 150 scores just for using 28cm instead of 43
rustic creek
I literally have 1000h in apex and I'm struggling in d3 what the fk is this game...
ranked is pretty ass rn can't lie
spare pike
😐
spare pike
that dorm wifi different
wet jay
did you get 20 kills
maiden comet
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=T12OMXG0MrU actually hilarious, might have to start maining bang to counter rollers
zenith mulch
literally windshield wiper aim lol
zenith mulch
ranked is pretty ass rn can't lie
why is it ass?
unborn token
why is it ass?
Shit ton of ddosing and cheaters everywhere
- the fact that you lose the rp for that
Ddosing part
unborn token
Like I lost
88 rp
Due to ddos
Then 160+
Broke my keyboard
Then we went on like a -700
Streak
Most of those games ddos or we die to cheater or we play like shit
zenith mulch
i thought ddoss meant nobody lost rp
zenith mulch
then why bother ddos
zenith mulch
thought the point was you die, you ddos, no rp loss
zenith mulch
ohhhhhh
unborn token
We do
unborn token
Pretty much
zenith mulch
then go up a ton, while everyone else loses
unborn token
Pretty much
zenith mulch
bruh
unborn token
Like imagine you get ddosed right
All of you r afk
Some team wins the game w like 20 smth kp
zenith mulch
would that explain me being able to push up to nearly plat 2, then getting clapped back to gold one as if the enemies got better or no
unborn token
And you go -61
zenith mulch
i was watching a pred streamer get ddos for like an hour straight
unborn token
I mean I think it's 13 days of split
I'll actually try and giga push master but gon be hard
With the algeez
zenith mulch
algeez? algorithm?
unborn token
Algs
Challenger circuit split 2 begins this Saturday
And
I'm playing so
Now I don't think we make semis the first week
Current state of team
But we might
honest breachBOT
.fmbot help & command overview
main fjord
$help
thin raven
how do i get my apex ads sens to be my hipfire?
try 1.24
thin raven
for apex ads?
yea
unborn grotto
do i ever have to update r5 reloaded ?
thorn swallow
unborn grotto
apex mouse go fire
devout tusk
WHERE IS OLYMPUS IM SICK OF NOT PLAYING ON OLYMPUS
vague nexus
Id like other maps if the sky box was a little brighter
Thats wht my favourite map is stormpoint
But i think they need to fix up broken moon
vague nexus
Most of the map is fine but prominade and the hole between laster thing and prominade us dumb
That whole spot can yse a rework
compact dragon
recently got into VT 1v1 servers on R5 and ive noticed some guy being able to bhop while fighting me head on is there a guide on how to do that?
pallid horizon
If he isnt then hes really fucking braindead
He does the same strafe no matter what
Even if it doesnt work he still does it
The most obvious sign of cfg use is if someone repeats the same strafe over and over again
Even if its bad
floral lodge
recently got into VT 1v1 servers on R5 and ive noticed some guy being able to bh...
more than likely one of the few config users from the 1v1 servers
good thing they can't shoot straight when you move like that when I find them I always stand still and 1 clip them
compact dragon
makes sense
they can barely aim at me when they do that but I still wanted to see if it was possible to get good at that
floral lodge
you can definitely do it manually
but think about if those guys have a hard time shooting straight with a file executing the movement for them
how much harder it will be when doing it manually also
pallid horizon
Shoot when you are close to the ground @compact dragon
That way you maximize your accuracy
floral lodge
there is definitely good ways to strafe and dodge you can improve I just dont know if I would recommend you to practice movement like that anyway
compact dragon
im trying to get good at movement since I just recently started learning how to do movement tricks so I wanted to see what tricks I can do as a beginner
I thought that bhop trick that guy did could be done as a beginner
pallid horizon
Learn how to lurch strafe and fatgue bounce
pallid horizon
Dont learn the zipline bs cause its useless
floral lodge
yeah I was gonna say learn to tap strafe and lurch at the very least
there are plenty of guides on youtube
floral lodge
besides that learn to dodge
pallid horizon
Zeddofps has a good guide on that
compact dragon
yeah ill check zeddo out
frail abyss
lurch strafing the way zeddo does is not remotely worth it for the time investment required to be competent at it
just learn how to actually dodge/strafe aim
devout tusk
I thought that bhop trick that guy did could be done as a beginner
def not one of the easier tricks, esp to aim while doing it
if youre doing it manually
compact dragon
I see
frail abyss
not a single "movement trick" or whatever is involved in having actually good movement
tap strafing can be useful to initiate or turn corners and that's about it
compact dragon
thanks
static vigil
is this rocket science
devout tusk
you should also learn how to get on top of stuff fast
frail abyss
movement is entirely about utilizing your own immediate space while also limiting the opponent's immediate space
devout tusk
and where you can reposition to
compact dragon
does mantle jump help with that?
being able to quickly get to a position that the enemy wouldnt expect
devout tusk
thats too advanced gimmik move
compact dragon
ah
devout tusk
literally just learn how to climb shit fast, get good intuition on when to jump
static vigil
i play apex semi-professionally and i've never even heard of a mantle jump
its a thing only streamers and crazy movement players do
compact dragon
^
static vigil
and it's on applicable on zip buildings so pretty pointless
frail abyss
going down the rabbit hole of learning movement tech/tricks is how you get gold/plat players that are dogshit at the game but know how to look cool before they die
devout tusk
ah
even if you want to do the movement tricks which i dont think there is anything wrong with, youre gonna get stuck on that stuff and not even know how to use it well
compact dragon
makes sense but I always thought that learning those movement gimmicks will help me win 1v1s
frail abyss
never
devout tusk
only vs shitters
frail abyss
tap strafing is the only thing that is occasionally useful
devout tusk
who you would beat anyway
compact dragon
True
frail abyss
but never during a fight, only to initiate
devout tusk
or run away
frail abyss
yeah but at that point you're not trying to win a 1v1 anymore
compact dragon
so basically I should just forget the mvoement gimmicks and just focus on dodging/strafe aiming
devout tusk
yea
frail abyss
pretty much
compact dragon
got it
frail abyss
the best section to read in the document i linked earlier is probably section 5
on global bias
that and 6
compact dragon
I just got back into apex and I thought that all those movement players are like preds who got there bcs they know how to do those movement gimmicks
frail abyss
if you are too lazy to read the whole thing
compact dragon
yeah ill read that
devout tusk
tbh i hard crutch A/D + tapstrafe in 1vs but im usually in a really shitty spot when i do it that i probably just could have played smarter and not been in
frail abyss
ADAD spam is so funny to me
cause the enemy does that to me and they die without me moving my mouse
compact dragon
they're probs used to AD spamming bcs of cs and val
and they assume that it would help in apex
frail abyss
like pistols? cause it's also bad in those games
they just dont know better
same with 99% of apex players
tons of pros are also really bad mechanically
when it comes to dodge
static vigil
that rambeau clip
frail abyss
roller 
compact dragon
what rambeau clip
thin raven
why is everryone so scared of jumpmaster fking pussy
compact dragon
Is he some pro?
frail abyss
yea
he got into a 1v1 as the enemy bangalore smoked her feet
which removes aim assist
and he hit like 3 bullets in a CAR spray
compact dragon
lmao
vague nexus
why is everryone so scared of jumpmaster fking pussy
Ptsd from when i was level 20 lifeline, having teammates dc before even landing
devout tusk
ADAD spam is so funny to me
i mean this meme
vague nexus
Cause i still get aad after smoking them
dull trellis
just learn how to actually dodge/strafe aim
Meaning moving to the left or right/ crouching depending on enemy movement? Or when you say dodge do you include redirects, yuki strafes ect.?
frail abyss
Wtf is a yuki strafe
cunning crane
https://outplayed.tv/media/GxYLXX (we won)
frail abyss
If you are jumping during a 1v1 you are throwing
Crouching can be okay but it's usually also bad
dull trellis
Na man don’t think so. Maybe against pro roller players in high lvl comp but in that situation you are gonna get out-beamed no matter what movement you do. If you have a good strafe it will fs help you win a fight
frail abyss
You are not gonna get out-beamed no matter what movement you do
the "having a good strafe" part of your statement includes not jumping
Any player with hands will get a free 100+ damage every time you jump
river axle
If you are jumping during a 1v1 you are throwing
Genuine question, what is the best way to strafe
like I catch myself adad strafing too much so
dull trellis
the "having a good strafe" part of your statement includes not jumping
You can have a good strafe while jumping. Builds momentum just have to know when and how to do it
river axle
and sometimes just jump or crouch spam and i'm pretty sure I just give free damage that way
devout tusk
read da guide
river axle
the Apex Tips guide?
dull trellis
You are not gonna get out-beamed no matter what movement you do
Any good controller player will outclip any good mnk player 80+% of the time
While moving left to right
frail abyss
And you think jumping lowers that chance?
dull trellis
Correctly yes
frail abyss
No it doesn't
dull trellis
frail abyss
That guy is dog
dull trellis
Not best example put that is much harder to hit than left to right
frail abyss
If he doesn't move his mouse he wins that
No it's unironically not, you just don't know how to shoot at it
devout tusk
its "harder" in that you need to have better mouse control but as far as reacting to it and him being locked into a trajectory
its easier
frail abyss
Like ofc it's gonna work against bad players
But if you optimiza your play according to shitting on bad players you're gonna have a bad time
dull trellis
Idk works better for me in high ranks to do redirects and things like that. Find myself getting clipped a lot less no matter the player
floral lodge
dude why do my frames on r5 uncap themselves
I set it to be capped at 180 and then like after 5 mins it goes to 240 and it feels so laggy
cause r5 cant run 240
frail abyss
Idk works better for me in high ranks to do redirects and things like that. Find...
You probably don't know how to strafe properly, also ranked players are bad
Tons of top top players are bad mechanically
Someone being top 50 pred or whatever doesn't mean they have good mechanics
Any strafe that lacks global bias is so insanely easy to counter with proper aim strategy, and the only way you're jumping without an instantly predictable trajectory is by removing your global bias
dull trellis
Obviously you don’t need a insane shooting strafe to be good at the game. I just think your wrong when you say it’s throwing to jump during fights. But at the same time it’s situational. If you know how to move properly I don’t see how it’s considered throwing
floral lodge
I think you're missing part of the point that he made
dull trellis
Which was?
lethal wraith
https://youtu.be/T12OMXG0MrU?t=47
devout tusk
my dodge bias is in both directions 
floral lodge
that jumping only makes you extremely predictable because you have a set trajectory
dull trellis
that jumping only makes you extremely predictable because you have a set traject...
But you don’t
floral lodge
fair enough redirect does exactly what you would think from reading
frail abyss
Jumping can be good to dodge like the very last bullet of someone's clip with a wingman/shotgun, but if they read it and hold their shit you're guaranteed dead pretty much
floral lodge
first of all yeah there was cover
lethal wraith
Jumping by itself is really bad, but good for enabling lurch
floral lodge
it wasn't a head on 1v1
lethal wraith
noticed it's not very efficient against wingman
floral lodge
neither player committed to the fight
frail abyss
I had a player do pretty much exactly that vs me yesterday
dull trellis
Jumping by itself is really bad, but good for enabling lurch
Yes
frail abyss
and he got one clipped
lethal wraith
but p good against tracking guns and dodging people that are on a consistent shotgun timing
devout tusk
also thats literally a speed boosted maggie with a pk shes moving fast as shit
dull trellis
and he got one clipped
Send clip
devout tusk
literally doesnt matter
frail abyss
because ofc you're not gonna jump and then go straight to the side you jumped
devout tusk
what she does
floral lodge
dude idk
frail abyss
let me dig, sure lol
lethal wraith
I actually do that
floral lodge
the way torje is explaining is that in a head on 1v1 jumping isn't the greatest and I agree
lethal wraith
you can definitely weave a lurch jump in the same direction
floral lodge
but then you send a clip of a maggie speed boosted from ball and bang ult is landing lurching round cover
dull trellis
the way torje is explaining is that in a head on 1v1 jumping isn't the greatest ...
In certain situations yes
floral lodge
that's 2 different scenarios right there
neither the wraith or maggie committed to the fight
no one was dying there anyway because who is actually taking that fight
floral lodge
so it would have had the same outcome without the maggie lurching like that
frail abyss
like both players
floral lodge
yes
also true
like if the maggie never peeked they both run away anyway most likely
so the jump didn't do jack shit
cause they are stuck in bang ult
like you can't just send a clip of some guy doing acrobatics and let it just make your point for you idk man
dull trellis
also the guy in the clip
Happens but movement still made up for the equal trade
frail abyss
0 for 0
floral lodge
torje tryna make one point but then this clip is something diff
dull trellis
Yes 0=0
frail abyss
there was no trade
floral lodge
yeah no trade
frail abyss
someone peeked
dull trellis
I’ll send my pov innna min after the tap strafe
floral lodge
like if the maggie swings wide there and does the same jump still landing on the wraiths screen and breaks lil controller bro's thumb fair enough
maybe then you have a clip you can slightly use to argue your point I guess
but idk bro I was so confused how its meant to prove what you're saying
cause there was no 1v1 that was won with the tech
dull trellis
there was no trade
Wigged the shot but the movement made up for it because he wasn’t able to capitalize on me missing
floral lodge
okay so he whiffed a shot
frail abyss
you're in maggie ball
floral lodge
that he never would have hit if you didn't peek
frail abyss
aim assist is strong but it's not literal aimbot
floral lodge
idk bro
like later on in the clip you do the same shit to him but he didn't shoot you once
he was focused on the wraith
floral lodge
I mean he's not really gonna sit in the bang ult
dull trellis
not my point. replying to "did a jumping jack backflip and ran away"
frail abyss
not my point either lol
silver seal
Wtf is a yuki strafe
frail abyss
like part of movement is using it to deal as much damage as possible
if you stay on the ground there you can so easily kill that guy
jumping just makes it harder for you for no reason
floral lodge
yeah and the other part is reduce damage received which fair enough you did not take damage by peeking like that but you also would have took no damage by not doing that
so its was just kinda pointless
that clip wasn't really a good example of what you are trying to say I don't think
but listen bro if you enjoy movement like that just do it no one really cares or will stop you
if it works for you then nice
dull trellis
like part of movement is using it to deal as much damage as possible
right... unfortunately i wiffed my shot but if i hadn't he whould ahev been hit for 70+ and i would be hit for 0
lethal wraith
I'm actually going to say that jumping is pretty underrated in a game where most people aim centremass for consistency
and lurch counters a massive downside of jumping, which is predictability
lethal wraith
crouchspam must destroy you then
devout tusk
lmao
frail abyss
right... unfortunately i wiffed my shot but if i hadn't he whould ahev been hit ...
part of my point is that doing this shit makes you way more likely to hit for 0
frail abyss
so is being unable to shoot at some guy jumping around
lethal wraith
but the user is aware of the directional changes beforehand
strafe aim v reactivity
- model animation changes
dull trellis
good point. i think you are right but i also think it is completely situational. if you are good at gun fight movement i thing you should use it to your advantage and not just press a and d
lethal wraith
A/D by the nature of itself is going to be 2Dimensional dodging
frail abyss
sure, but you're not 100% accurate in the air, and when you see someone jump ofc you're ready for a direction change in the air
devout tusk
youre fuckin wit your mouse wheel tho u cant be telling me youre aiming as well as usual
lethal wraith
sure, but that's predicting
frail abyss
no it's not
lethal wraith
personally I don't always direction change after doing that
frail abyss
being ready to react to something is not prediction
dull trellis
sure, but you're not 100% accurate in the air, and when you see someone jump ofc...
yes but if the person moving is good at moving you cannot predict that direction change
lethal wraith
also 100% accuracy in air is dependant on the weapon and distance
smg hipfire up close is going to be pretty accurace
floral lodge
lethal wraith
wingman and shotguns 100% accuracy
floral lodge
excuse the aim this was first thing after waking up
but you can't tell me shit like this is effective in a 1v1
dull trellis
and isnt the foundation of aiming reacting not predicting?
floral lodge
and this guy is the clown always doing it on r5
like dude I barely moved had 0 bias
and just tracked him
frail abyss
and isnt the foundation of aiming reacting not predicting?
in kovaak's yes, because the bot is not a human you can read the same way
ofc you predict movement ingame
floral lodge
and idk if any of you have seen this guy on r5 but he's like some config acrobat
shits nuts
dull trellis
bots have set movement tho? humans dont
frail abyss
bots are rng, humans are not
devout tusk
and idk if any of you have seen this guy on r5 but he's like some config acrobat
is that not just a bhop lol
frail abyss
humans move depending on how you move, how much damage they're taking, the geometry around them
lethal wraith
adad spam shits on the user too, so it's pretty fair
floral lodge
dude idek what it is
devout tusk
thats what bhopping looks like in 3rd person
floral lodge
but have you ever seen the guy
devout tusk
just sideways bhop
floral lodge
thats the most mild shit he has done
dull trellis
but you can't tell me shit like this is effective in a 1v1
no because his move is terrible
devout tusk
no i havent played r5 in a long time
torn oyster
and this guy is the clown always doing it on r5
90% of r5 users use configs. Other 10% play to play
Yall should know this by now
floral lodge
yeah he legit would have had more chance to kill me if he didn't jump
realistically
dull trellis
humans move depending on how you move, how much damage they're taking, the geome...
but you cant say every human is gonna react the same based on that info
frail abyss
of course not, nothing will never be 100% consistent
it's a battle royale, of course you cant be 100% consistent
but min maxing your chances is important
you can not physically be 100% accurate
that doesn't mean some predictions arent better than others
some humans will misread movement and miss and die for it
frail abyss
that strafe
is the exact thing i think is like
so funny
like what is either player doing in this clip LMAO
the very last lurch was good
everything else was flashy for no reason
torn oyster
One is standing still.
Other is using their scroll wheel
devout tusk
to me stuff like that is like using some shit move in a fighting game that no one ever uses, so when it comes out people are like wtf and cant punish cause its unexpected, if lots of people start using this stuff all the time people will be more ready for it
and it will be exposed as not actually good
frail abyss
because he's spinning in a circle and jumping
if he moves like that on the ground (which is still bad but at least somewhat better because you never relinquish the ability to change direction at any point) he probably does double that
dull trellis
so u think it would ahve been better for him to just ad strafe?
frail abyss
what makes jumping bad is that you temporarily limit your player sphere so severely
even with the craziest lurch giga backflip monkey man 3000 lurch strafe, after the 0.5s lurch window, you're fucked until you land
devout tusk
the real thing here is that 99% of players are dogshit at aiming vertically
frail abyss
you dont need to aim vertically more than like half a body length at most
maybe even a third
dull trellis
it builds you momentum and gives you the ability to take less dmg while outputting
devout tusk
i see people struggle with it a lot at least
dull trellis
it builds you momentum and gives you the ability to take less dmg while outputti...
you just have to do it correctly
obv ur not gonna jump is some1s face just to gain momentum
thats y its situational
devout tusk
how does it build momentum
dull trellis
gives you the opportunity to do movement that you wouldn't be able to do without it
devout tusk
i mean yeah you cant lurch unless you jump
lethal wraith
think he means you can't slide from a strafe, but you can from a jump
devout tusk
oh yeah sure
lethal wraith
also jump -> slide is a massive hitbox change
devout tusk
yeah that limbo shit
dull trellis
dont know if you watch either but people like chensou ozisan and matsu have different play styles but they both achieve the same thing. chensou will a-d strafe most the time with the occasional lurch/ redirect which supports torjes theory. but then matsu uses redirects lurch strafes at mostly every chance he gets which supports my theory. to say on triumphs the other is just false.
devout tusk
nah the thing is like torje said most players are shit, which to me means most players dont know how to aim at lurches, it just started to be used competently by more than a handful of players relatively recently
so everyone is used to ad crouch
and now theres all this weird curvy nonsense going on and its confusing to even understand the first few times you see it
and it does open up more possibilities for how your character can move but
frail abyss
devout tusk
objectively these new options are easier to punish since you get locked into a trajectory to some extent or at least lose control of your char
so if people get used to playing against it and learn to aim at those curves it wont be as strong
though i dont think its completely useless
frail abyss
(more accurate one) https://twitter.com/hodsic/status/1620444310000001025
lethal wraith
tbh it makes me cringe super hard when I see sm1 have to climb a wall that they could wallbounce over
but usually it's roller so it's unavoidable I guess
talking about comp apex
dull trellis
(more accurate one) https://twitter.com/hodsic/status/1620444310000001025
in a hypothetical situation, if controller was not in the game, do you think learning move techs would have more value?
devout tusk
they have maximum fun value
frail abyss
i think it would have less value, certain move tech can be useful to break roller ankles in specific situations
but you have to know the guy is roller
compact dragon
https://twitter.com/hodsic/status/1620438647534403585
So basically what you're supposed to do is not learn any tech and just move
frail abyss
pretty much
i think learning tap strafe is useful, learning supergliding can be decent if you're stupidly good at it, other than that just actually move
dull trellis
hmm idk guess it comes down to your own perspective on the game. me personally i find having good shooting movement fun and see value in it but in a competitive perspective i see your point
devout tusk
So basically what you're supposed to do is not learn any tech and just move
a lot of the tech is useful for traversal and repositioning but tapstrafe, wallbounce, and superjump are your bread and butter and easy to learn. all the other stuff is extremely situational and need really tight timings
so not a good use of time
frail abyss
when it comes to lurching at the level of zeddo (which is like the only player who shows an argument for it being good)
the time investment required is just
devout tusk
not a good use of time if youre still learning the game i mean, if you really want to add them to your skillset then sure
frail abyss
so far from worth it compared to learning how to actually move
devout tusk
do you have a zeddo vid ive never heard of them
lethal wraith
if apex stays as long as it plans to
dull trellis
do you have a zeddo vid ive never heard of them
lethal wraith
then movement will definitely only be refined more and more
you will have way more players like Zeddo
devout tusk
ty
compact dragon
well I mean I know how to aim and sort of know how to move because I've had experience with afps before so I think it would probs be a good use of time to learn how to wallbounce/tapstrafe
unborn token
bro
who is this adam ape
in r5
guy kept tryna 1v1 me to post me on tiktok because he moved all over the place
frail abyss
lmao
dull trellis
tf is up with r5 players
overran by cfg enjoyers
unborn token
bro
this kid
literally run up to the box
wall bounced and did neo every time
i cracked him before he veen ever shot me
if he won he won coz he had an eva or i wiffed
and he is lik
this is gonna be a good tiktok
🤓
compact dragon
💀
compact dragon
1v1 me reformed Im gonna put you on my nonexistent tiktok 🤓
unborn token
im not gonna fight some clown
i can get better 1v1s
in that server
from people worse than him
genuinely
like id rather 1v1 future or fonac
placid root
placid root
i just hate movement players
unborn token
then i take it
but bro
bouncing around becoming 1 shot before you shoot
is the dumbest shit ever
and then me telling him fight me normally
is somehow an insult
like get a fucking grip bro
dude was hunting me in r5 to press button and try and prove something
like the fuck
and then he pulls the
" im not trying card "
" i tried and 7-0d you "
compact dragon
is that in the voltaic 1v1 server?
unborn token
yeah
where else would it be lmfao
some untalented config player bouncing like a frog getting salty bc i tell him to fight me normally
average 13 yr old that says he wont learn movement in a video game
frail abyss
unrelated but this body block was funny as shit https://twitter.com/Txrje/status/1638530070774988805
unborn token
Gahdamn
lethal wraith
floral lodge
what dude its very relaxing okay
lethal wraith
compact dragon
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=vr5dCRHAgb0
Amazing, helped me study organic chem
cunning crane
https://outplayed.tv/media/47eEmP I like how you could hear the doubt in my team mates voice thinking they lost before its over but I managed to clutch xD
main merlin
My motivation to grind apex pretty dam low rn
main merlin
I haven't touched apex in a month almost
zenith mulch
my time on apex in last 2 weeks has decreased by 25 hours, and time in kovaak's has increased by 25 hours lol
zenith mulch
I'm new, been playing for a month now
but what really sucked was nearly making it to plat 2 in ranked
then just unable to do anything and dropping down to gold 1
I also played with a friend, and he was with me the whole way, he got to plat 2, and is now gold 1
barren ivy
but what really sucked was nearly making it to plat 2 in ranked
That’s where I’m at rn but lost some yesterday back to plat 3
zenith mulch
we dont get what happened, just felt like all of a sudden we sucked
so we've been really frustrated lately
barren ivy
Just gotta start playing like more of a rat I guess
zenith mulch
we would try
barren ivy
And make sure u get kp off start of atleast mid game
zenith mulch
and still
zenith mulch
we just can't win 3v3s i guess
barren ivy
Just to die
zenith mulch
thats so harsh
I'm just trying to play the tdm/control/gun run modes to have more fights and try to learn more that way
barren ivy
Ranked is very frustrating, just what u said above I like playing those games to occasionally
zenith mulch
can't stand playing looting legends for 10 mins just to die in the first fight
barren ivy
Good practice
barren ivy
can't stand playing looting legends for 10 mins just to die in the first fight
Literally 🤣
I call it third party legends
zenith mulch
facts lol
and then stormpoint is always like 10 squads fighting in the same area once circle 1 closes
broken moon is decent
and world's edge is so sweaty where you have 14 teams in final circle
barren ivy
Anytime that maps in rotation I avoid it
zenith mulch
it's my fav ranked map lol
barren ivy
Ya I have the worst luck
Me and my squad whatever we can do always lose rp through that rotation
zenith mulch
it just feels the most consistent to me
barren ivy
Ya understandable some people play better on different maps
Like I love worlds edge personally
zenith mulch
I landed frag once on worlds edge and then scanned survey beacon and the closest team was epicenter
barren ivy
Lmao
barren ivy
Go frag In casual that shits different
One time 70% of the lobby dropped there 😂
Majority in the main building too
barren ivy
Lmaoooo
U know I always watch streamers/YouTubers and can’t stand how they get the easiest lobbies
It’s like sure ur good but ur not doing half the shit u do in a real lobby
zenith mulch
i've been watching them too, but they get hard lobbies
was watching a pred the other day
lethal wraith
to be fair a lot of streamers are doing micro decisions that you wouldn't notice
zenith mulch
he got ddos for an hour straight
lethal wraith
but are actually gamechanging
barren ivy
Really?
wet skiff
If you can't find the bots in the lobby... it means you're the bot
zenith mulch
i am the bot
barren ivy
to be fair a lot of streamers are doing micro decisions that you wouldn't notice
Like what? If u don’t mind me asking
lethal wraith
like approach angle, taking only advantage fights
barren ivy
If you can't find the bots in the lobby... it means you're the bot
Welll of course their are always a couple shitters
slim zenith
Wait am I supposed to think in apex?
barren ivy
Ya maybe I gotta watch vod or more people to learn
barren ivy
Wait am I supposed to think in apex?
W key 😂
barren ivy
knowing how to move from point A to B
Ok ya imma start to pay more attention
lethal wraith
I think a very noticeable thing that good players do that most don't even think about
is keeping height
barren ivy
Ya tbh
lethal wraith
like try thinking what you would do in Faide's situation
wet skiff
just be taller
barren ivy
😭
river axle
is keeping height
tbh I feel like whenever I take height i just get beamed
lethal wraith
river axle
Probs a skill issue though
lethal wraith
yeah I mean you gotta know how to play height
wet skiff
why do you think the pros play pathfinder? He's taller. Always height, even on same floor
barren ivy
^💯
slim zenith
But dropping down from height with a full charged PK is hella fun, ngl
barren ivy
think it might be Wattson
Shit really?
barren ivy
Surprised cause her body is big so I assumed her hitbox also
Well u know more than me
I just play octane usually
lethal wraith
I don't really know the intricacies of stuff 100% though )
barren ivy
For sure
lethal wraith
but yeah, it's really difficult to build up gamesense in Apex
wet skiff
ya pathfinder is good for maintaining the best positioning, especially height, as well as getting jump on opponents and resetting. Really good hero, shitty hitbox
barren ivy
Ya I’ve noticed that
lethal wraith
once you do it, you just process stuff differently
lethal wraith
pathfinder main here 😎
barren ivy
octane is the most fun hero in the game for sure
Yep
lethal wraith
I like pathy because he has the biggest theoretical movement potential
barren ivy
I only play anyone but octane when my squad needs it for ranked or we need to switch up legends
Just love the speed
I need his heirloom
lethal wraith
pathfinder is like 99% grapple
barren ivy
Did u guys get that 20 pack for 1000 coins
lethal wraith
won't catch me buying any packs
zenith mulch
I don't spend money
slim zenith
I like pathy because he has the biggest theoretical movement potential
I like pathy cuz I can swing
barren ivy
I did cause I had extra from battle pass I accidentally bought 2k
Pulled nothing
1 leg and 1 epic
lethal wraith
honestly if you're playing rank consider running rampage 24/7
I know that's what I'm going to do
fucking Catalysts
barren ivy
fucking Catalysts
Oh those fuckers are annoying
slim zenith
honestly if you're playing rank consider running rampage 24/7
Rampage r9 is now my favorite loadout
barren ivy
honestly if you're playing rank consider running rampage 24/7
It’s a good gun?
lethal wraith
it's p good rn because it destroys doors
barren ivy
I run r3 car, r3 r9, or flatline
lethal wraith
p decent long range, not quite repeater-tier though
barren ivy
it's p good rn because it destroys doors
Oh ok
lethal wraith
also charged up it's really strong close range
barren ivy
Alright imma give it a shot
Idk about y’all but nemesis I personally don’t like
Just never liked burst weapons on mnk
lethal wraith
honestly same, but it's pretty busted
barren ivy
Oh it definitely is
lethal wraith
I love prowler
barren ivy
Prowler I haven’t used a lot but I heard it’s a top tier gun rn or close
lethal wraith
every smg is p good rn
cunning crane
to be fair a lot of streamers are doing micro decisions that you wouldn't notice
This
lethal wraith
Volt might be the least good rn
and it's not even damage or dps or anything
but econ is shit
barren ivy
every smg is p good rn
Ya
river axle
is there actually a good playlist or someone that makes youtube videos on positionning game sense ? or like micro decisions etc
barren ivy
U know I kinda like the volt even though it’s not the best
lethal wraith
prowler is hard to aim, but dps is solid and has the best damage per mag
barren ivy
Just because the way it shoots
cunning crane
The r-9 is amazing rn
barren ivy
prowler is hard to aim, but dps is solid and has the best damage per mag
Ya if u can get the bursts its crazy
barren ivy
The r-9 is amazing rn
Always my favourite gun
lethal wraith
yeah r9 fries now
cunning crane
I've never liked the r9 but now I love it
cunning crane
Car used to be better
barren ivy
Ya I remember that
lethal wraith
it's better than car long range, but I still think I would rather run car if my life depended on it
barren ivy
Still didn’t use it over the r9 though. Lmao I just love certain guns
cunning crane
My fav go to loadout is with r9/car + g7/30-30
barren ivy
They got a better feel to me
barren ivy
My fav go to loadout is with r9/car + g7/30-30
Is 30/30 any good
lethal wraith
I attach a lot more value now to damage per mag
cunning crane
Is 30/30 any good
I love the 3030
cunning crane
I attach a lot more value now to damage per mag
You'll love the spitfire then😂
barren ivy
I’ve never really used it with hood attachments
barren ivy
😭
lethal wraith
3030 has the best ammo econ, most damage per mag, most damage per bullet with charge
it's super efficient
barren ivy
https://giant.gfycat.com/HomelyImperfectKissingbug.mp4
Facts
cunning crane
3030 hits like a truck
lethal wraith
You'll love the spitfire then😂
spitfire is atrocious 
barren ivy
Alright I gotta hop on soon and give the 30/30 a spin
cunning crane
Almost killed chaoticmuch's team with it in ranked
barren ivy
spitfire is atrocious <:KEKL:1054209250534109344>
Oh fuck that gun
lethal wraith
I would rather have rampage any day
barren ivy
The recoil pattern is stupid
cunning crane
He survived on 1 hp behind a tiny piece of cover and so did his team mate I headshot
wet skiff
bruh I got some stupid clips lmao
zenith mulch
if i had bettter clicking I'd try the 3030 but my clicking is so bad
i practice it tho
cunning crane
Then I got banned from his stream
barren ivy
Lmao
cunning crane
They pushed us, aimbotted us
I went to the stream and just said "of course you're on controller"
And he got super butt hurt
barren ivy
if i had bettter clicking I'd try the 3030 but my clicking is so bad
I feel that for me it honestly depends some days my flicking and clicking is on and some days my tracking is on while the other is off
Better than the bald one
Fucking hate that one
I understand it’s tryhard and whatnot but it’s so ugly
barren ivy
I went to the stream and just said "of course you're on controller"
Streamers always butthurt
wet skiff
https://giant.gfycat.com/ElderlyMemorableKoodoo.mp4
I don't think any other champ could've tap strafed like this to dodge that shot
cunning crane
Thats literally all I said
barren ivy
Nah I personally don’t see the looks In it
lethal wraith
is there actually a good playlist or someone that makes youtube videos on positi...
honestly not sure, but you will learn a lot even just watching some streamers
barren ivy
Ok ya those gloves are
True maybe it’s because I look at it at an enemies perspective instead of the first person fov
Because in the end we can’t even see the skin
Only the hands
Well imma go run kovaaks for a little then hop on, good talking to u guys
cunning crane
Gl
wet skiff
hey that's my skin >:[
shrewd pollen
I hear gun shot, me go to gun shot
Kek
torn oyster
There's a black and red epic skin with animated shurkiens on it
That's the one I use
No.
But there is a black and red legendary one
Sadly
Even though it came before season 10
They redid pk recolor like a bot instead of doing something like the r9
Luckily they won't do that again
L of an idea
No weapon skin should cost 160$ to get
I'm a bot and some of my fuck it money goes to apex.
773 legendaries
122 packs to open
1.2m legend tokens
Which one was that.
That was KC ranked split yeah?
With the wingman in bp
I mean in the free rewards
Oh this
Yeah they re did it too
Mask over her face instead of a blatant recolor
Which is nice and is what they should do
They should've done it with all recolor
I need more recolors with legend tokens bro.
I quite literally have almost every single recolor
It's niche because a lot of people don't but
They wanted all the old stuff to come back. And now that they complained. It's all they get
Pink and white would be fire.
Like the Bangalore cherry blossom skin
That not many people know exists
No it's a recolor
From like...
S4 or some shit
Yeah
Was 2019 skin
I think
Yeah so season 3
Idt it's come back?
It might have
Very few old skins have
A lot of caustics recolors you don't see anymore
Like the black and white one
Arguably one of his rarest. Next to the battlepass/event skin
Idr which it was
S1 or s2
Prob?
There's a few select skins I don't think that have
That's the dark red and gold one yeah?
Iron man looking
Got it on both accounts afaik
edgy crane
any d2+ gamers?
teal moth
Bro the r5 1v1 svr has become so meh for practice
Like everyone is just a movement andy who dosen't shoot their gun
and you just auto win if u shoot ur gun like a person
Like i dont get it why ppl walljump to get 150'd out of the air and die whitout shooting
lethal wraith
I literally have "rest" bound to mouse4
so I can skip people that waste my time
I see sm1 on a headglitch, rest rest
running away?
rest rest
zenith mulch
I literally have "rest" bound to mouse4
what is rest
teal moth
Like it's so boring i hopped on and just didn't meet anyone who i struggled against so i left
there's so good ppl that it's cool to fight
lethal wraith
r5 console command to rest, aka stop 1v1ing
puts you out of the 1v1
also puts you back in
zenith mulch
is getting r5 simple?
zenith mulch
do i need a second steam acc to play it, or just a second apex acc
teal moth
yes
lethal wraith
second origin acc
zenith mulch
ah
teal moth
They try to be flashy for no reason
They'd be better off just shooting their guns
and moving left right
alpine trail
1v1 1tricks always been like that even pre r5 lol
zenith mulch
well i have origin, and I dont use apex from it so
alpine trail
origin no exist anymo,re
zenith mulch
when the voices start winning and I want to make kovaaks my main game instead of apex
that's what I've been doing the past few days
split into like 3 sessions
oof yea
I've only aim trained off and on for like 2 years
now im finally starting to be consistent
yea I stretch my wrist multiple times per kovaak's session
already have a wrist injury that can hurt when doing pushups so Im trying to be careful lol
vague bridge
anyone know if the r5 server has the hipfire changes and also does it have damage stun
lethal wraith
bullet slow?
lethal wraith
r5 has no bullet slow iirc?
vague bridge
oh was that not added until later seasons i dont remember
lethal wraith
depends which server
vague bridge
just talking voltaic
lethal wraith
I forget, but it's either default or .3
vague bridge
aa is 0.17 i think
i heard at least
more curious abt bullet slow thingy cause it doesnt feel like it exists and it makes sense that aa would be added to compensate
lethal wraith
bullet slow doesn't really affect strafe speed though
vague bridge
u think
think it does
also run into slide takes longer if getting hit
which causes deadslides in normal apex
vague bridge
ye just saying
lethal wraith
getting shot and failing to slide isn't what I would quite call a deadslide
it's when you get RAMMED in the ASS by the server and game engine
Respawn would NEVER
📠
me as an apex player rn
it got buffed
vague bridge
buffed
lethal wraith
hot take: shotguns not buffed enough 
that's a bug
it doesn't happen very often though
like it literally won't let you fire, I think I only ever had it happen next to ziplines
as far as I can recall
another annoying thing that I haven't had in a while
is when you pick up a havoc
and it will spin up twice before firing
last time I had it happen was like 4 seasons ago
lethal wraith
queued into control