apex

[unborn token]

And specially if you haven't had high level aim on mnk

You just dont

Na

Nah

[green dagger]

theres a top level echelon of roller players that i respect for their ability to move past the limitations of controller

[wintry cypress]

😭

[copper forge]

Well aim assist makes it easy without it is much harder

[green dagger]

and theres another group whos aiming skill is undeniable even on the input

[alpine trail]

Omfg i played mnk for a fucking month

[green dagger]

ie genburten and verhulst

but most controller players

[alpine trail]

How am i supposed to have high lvl aim

[green dagger]

are garbage walking sentry turrets

[unborn token]

BRO

[green dagger]

who only rankup because they get the game to aim for them

[unborn token]

you think you'd have

High level aim

Playing for a month

When you your self don't want to improve

At the fucking game

[alpine trail]

That doesnt make any fucking sense

[wintry cypress]

1 month?!

[unborn token]

We've given you advice for idk how long here and you don't give a fuck about it literally

[alpine trail]

One month on a input doesnt give u high lvl aim dumbass

[unborn token]

It took me several months and hundreds of hours of training to get to my level

And you think

THAT SOME 13 YR OLD

FUCKING DUMBASS

SHOULD BE ABLE TO OUT AIM ME

LIKE WHAT

On a fucking roller

Like huuuu

Hhh

The game aims for all of you

But you literally all think it's incredible skill

When you barely put any effort it

[wintry cypress]

yeah

[green dagger]

honestly @unborn token dont even bother

[unborn token]

I'm not going to

[unborn token]

[alpine trail]

Then explain this to me

[wintry cypress]

took me like 2.5 years to get to where i am now in terms of aim LOL

[alpine trail]

My aim was better with a mouse

[unborn token]

It never was

It never will be

[alpine trail]

Yea it was

[unborn token]

You are just arguably garbage on the roller

[green dagger]

clips rn

please

LOL

[unborn token]

Thinking it is

[wintry cypress]

bro is hollow

[green dagger]

i would love to see your

incredible aim

[alpine trail]

I never said it was incredible

I just said better

[unborn token]

You said it's better so

[wintry cypress]

smoothness like saitwoch, reactivity like brunoapex

[unborn token]

It applies still

[green dagger]

@alpine trail

https://understandinginnovation.files.wordpress.com/2015/06/dunning-kruger-0011.jpg

you are at the peak of mt stupid

[wintry cypress]

i guess it depends on where he was on roller

in terms of skill

[alpine trail]

Fucker im smarter than u on any fucking day

[unborn token]

If his mnk aim was better

Then

He simply is just horrible on the roller

Smth which you shouldn't be

Unless you play on a 10hz tv

[wintry cypress]

only logical explanation

[green dagger]

obviously not smart enough to know the difference between intelligence and confidence in an observed phenomenon

[unborn token]

With like 2k ms

[pallid horizon]

[green dagger]

too stupid to read in to the fact that me saying stupid there wasn't actually calling you stupid, rather referring to the ignorance demonstrated in the graph

actual fucking npc moron

way to go proving that you arent just overconfident as the graph states, but that youre actually stupid too

lmfao

[alpine trail]

Whether im good at the game or not has nothing to do with this conversation

[green dagger]

yes it does

[unborn token]

It clearly

Does

[alpine trail]

Both mnk and controller have there cons and pros but neither is better than the other

[unborn token]

Coz if you were good you would understand that roller is stupid

[green dagger]

because being better at the game and having more experience in the game allows you to develop a more accurate understanding of the holistic aspects that make up the game's difficulty

[green dagger]

90% of arena preds are controller

80% of top 10 preds are controller

60% of pros are on controller (up since like 30% in earlier seasons)

controller has zero milisecond reactivity

[alpine trail]

Where tf r u getting tht info cuz it isnt true

[pallid horizon]

Bro

There is no way

U r real

[alpine trail]

90% of the top players r mnk

[wintry cypress]

???????

[pallid horizon]

You are fucking stupid bro

[wintry cypress]

[unborn token]

So a 40% assisted input by an ai that's 100% consistent at all times is simply not better than a 100% manual input that is never assisted by any sort of software?

Right

So I must've have failed school

Apparently

Alright

[green dagger]

apexlegendsstats leaderboard

[unborn token]

Have you paid attention to the game

In like

[green dagger]

youre a moron

like genuinely

[unborn token]

Thepast year

[green dagger]

you have to be trolling

hes actually trolling im not interacting anymore

not gonna be the one that bites this bait

[alpine trail]

You know what

[pallid horizon]

Example? If your message contains one of the following: aceu, faide, iitztimmy. Please leave

[alpine trail]

Think what you wanna think

[unborn token]

Ahahahhaah

[unborn token]

I swear

[wintry cypress]

they literally barely play ranked lol

[unborn token]

Been stuck in bronze @wintry cypress

[pallid horizon]

Some of them barely even play the game lol

[wintry cypress]

same

[unborn token]

The 2 hrs in a week tyep of dudes

Type

Trying to actually argue with people that play the game 10x

[alpine trail]

Yeah because im supoosed to be masters by now right?

[copper forge]

Roller players r a real strange species

[pallid horizon]

Who? In the top killers in algs 9/10 arent mnk

[alpine trail]

Under 1000 hrs in the game and yall expect me to be killing it

[unborn token]

No because if you were or you played the game and actually actively played it and tried to improve

You wouldn't have

Such dumbass takes

[unborn token]

On the roller yes

[wintry cypress]

if you havent gotten 3 bursted by a roller prowler, have you even played the game?

[green dagger]

dude if youre roller and not hitting masters before 150 hours

you're just ass

im sorryr

lol

bottom masters

is the easiest shit ever

[wintry cypress]

i feel attacked

[alpine trail]

Yay a day 1 player is so much better than me

Shut up

[green dagger]

i started in s10

LOL

day 1 😭

[alpine trail]

And?

You probably have at least 3k hrs

[wintry cypress]

i started s1 and i have 1.5k hours LMAO

[green dagger]

nah

closer to 600

i have a level 300 account

and a level 270 account

and some random level 10 smurfs

[alpine trail]

Then u have way more then 600 hrs

[green dagger]

???

after level 100 its 1h/level

[green dagger]

if youre not dogshit

[unborn token]

🙂

[alpine trail]

No its isnt

[green dagger]

before that is even fater

[green dagger]

yeah probably not for u cuz u get no kills XDDDDDDDDDDDD

[alpine trail]

Im at around 600 hours and im not even lvl 300 yet

[wintry cypress]

how

[copper forge]

Well I have 600 hours and over level 400

[pallid horizon]

Dude like an input that has 40% of aim assist ALL THE TIME (works through all kinds of visual clutter the only exception being bangalore smoke) is Just objectively better

[alpine trail]

Its called inprovement dumbass im fucking sorry tht i have a life outside of a stupid fucking video game

[wintry cypress]

most of us do

[alpine trail]

He doesnt apparently

[unborn token]

All of us do

[alpine trail]

Nobody hits master tht easily

[unborn token]

And we play more than you

I'm pretty sure

[alpine trail]

master is pretty easy man

[unborn token]

Masters is extremely easy if you play the game

[alpine trail]

I didnt start actually playing until the end of last season

[unborn token]

I was a game off and I don't even touch ranked as much

[alpine trail]

Before tht the only season i played was 7

[quaint karma]

bro yuuki your personal feelings on the input are completely irrelevant

[wintry cypress]

THEN HOW HAVE I NOT HIT MASTERS YET

[quaint karma]

you dont have to be defensive abotu something you know nothing about

[unborn token]

You'll figure it out king

[quaint karma]

aim assist is broken in this game

[alpine trail]

if you willingly soloq eu that’s natural selection

XD

just play 150ms na bro

eu is hvh

always

[wintry cypress]

tbh

na is easier

i wont lie

[alpine trail]

it will be easier when half the lobby doesn’t have esp yes

[alpine trail]

Oh really then stop saying im fucking ass just bcuz im not masters on roller

[wintry cypress]

esp?

[pallid horizon]

wallhacks

[alpine trail]

esp=walls

[pallid horizon]

essentially

[wintry cypress]

ah

[alpine trail]

Somwthing that isnt easy to fucking get

[pallid horizon]

like tracers and shit

[green dagger]

it is though

youre just shit

[wintry cypress]

https://tenor.com/view/he-just-like-me-fr-gif-25075803

[quaint karma]

idk what youre talking about

[safe igloo]

Me when I'm free from apex jail

[unborn token]

Homie my little cousin is like diamond on console at this point which is like silver at very best gold on pc

Dude has 60% of his aim done by an ai

And is the worst

Arguably the worst

Player I've seem

Seen

[green dagger]

i balance a full time job, having a girlfriend and social life with gaming in my freetime and i can still get masters no biggie

contrary to what you might think

you do not need to have no life to get masters!

you just need to, well, not be ass at the game

XD

[pallid horizon]

he may just have ass settings (1-1 linear)

[unborn token]

Might be playing on that 1-1 classic

[green dagger]

@alpine trail have you gone for pred this szn?

[alpine trail]

I swear do yall listen

I play 4-3 linear

Ive literally said it at least 30 times

[wintry cypress]

https://media.discordapp.net/attachments/880542627148234804/1046156508490108948/attachment.gif

[alpine trail]

I haven’t played the game in 3 months

Minus a pub or two

[alpine trail]

But the fact tht u think i should be masters is fucking stupid

[green dagger]

if youre so fucking bad that youre not masters

stop thinking your opinion on the state of the game's balance is worth anything more than shit

you are literally the prime example of dunning kruger

you have all the confidence but no real knowledge whatsoever

[alpine trail]

U say tht like im the worst player in the game

[green dagger]

if you have opinions like the ones youve presnted

i hate to break the news that you probably are not good

not even close to good

[alpine trail]

Controller isnt easier

[pallid horizon]

yup

[alpine trail]

To aim with yes fine its easier but nothing else is

[green dagger]

moron

[pallid horizon]

yea dude you are actually right

controller is harder than mnk

[green dagger]

yeah for sure

[copper forge]

Aim is most the game

[pallid horizon]

we have a whole arm

and you only have ur thumbs

[green dagger]

we have our whole arm 😲 and a tappy strafing 🤯

[alpine trail]

Theres a whole lot more tht matters than aim

[green dagger]

most of which does not require any mechanics

the game is like 10% movement 40% aim 50% gamesense

[alpine trail]

Omg im so sorry tht i dont have the gamesense needed yet

Doesnt mean im trash

If you get gold on mnk and get stuck you not magically gonna hit masters by switching to roller

It doesnt fucking work like that

[copper forge]

well if its aim holding u back it will help a lot

top m and k aim rather fast

but im sure no 1 is stuck in gold with any iq

[wet skiff]

if you don't feel confident in taking fights because of your aim, you won't be able to learn the other stuff either.

[minor blaze]

If I can make it to plat soloqing on Gibby you not getting past gold on mnk is kinda a sign Smth is very wrong in either your perception or your approach to the whole thing

[alpine trail]

My aim does hold me back

[minor blaze]

Also, why are you spending your entire day arguing in here

You have been going on for like five hours at this point

[alpine trail]

Bcuz they think i should have god tier aim bcuz im controller

[quaint karma]

who said that

[alpine trail]

Every single one of u

[green dagger]

yes it does

[green dagger]

in a lot of cases it will

[alpine trail]

See??? Hes a fucking idiot

[quaint karma]

the skill floor on controller is so low

[minor blaze]

I think people are telling you that controller is a broken input and since you have been whining all day at this point have very little compassion so I can see why you think that

[alpine trail]

All im saying is it isnt easier

If anything mnk was easier for me

Movement was easier, long range was easier, the only thing that wasnt easier was close range thts it

Mechanics arent everything

And they dont mean shit if you dont know how or when to use them

[green dagger]

yea theyre 50%

lol

why are you acting as if you know the distribution of skills required to play at a high level when youre literally gold

[alpine trail]

I never said i did

[unborn token]

Omg you are here

I haven't seen you in this channel for like ages

[green dagger]

is r5r still around

[unborn token]

Ye

[green dagger]

people still play?

[dull falcon]

sometimes ur confident then all ur mechanics go out the window or u get one clipped as u blink

[unborn token]

Yup

[green dagger]

if you get oneclipped in an elo before dia/masters you're overextending and have bad positioning

if you get oneclipped in pubs because youre running it down fair enough

[alpine trail]

Not everyone lower than diamond has shit aim

[green dagger]

lol

[dull falcon]

everyone in diamond has shot aim

honestly u dont need good aim to get to any rank

[alpine trail]

I mean god i dont have god tier aim but i hit plenty of my shots

[green dagger]

actual diamonds tend to not be that good

[green dagger]

BECAUSE YOURE ON CONTROLLER

[alpine trail]

Explain long range then

[green dagger]

pull down

LOL

[unborn token]

Half of diamond up until high diamond has awful aim

[alpine trail]

U know aim assist has a fucking distance limit right

[green dagger]

?? youre a moron

no it doesnt

[alpine trail]

Yea it does

[green dagger]

aim assist is implemented at every range

and also features bullet compensation

[dull falcon]

i dont play controller idk what y’all talking ab

[alpine trail]

https://www.reddit.com/r/CompetitiveApex/comments/s8d0bp/comprehensive_breakdown_of_aim_assist_how_it/#:~:text=The range of AA varies,range of 3m to 33m.

It gets weaker the further away u are

[green dagger]

its still active

[pallid horizon]

you just use a scout long range

[green dagger]

https://youtu.be/mm5CAGDabAc?t=656

[pallid horizon]

lol

[alpine trail]

And i dont get 0.6 aim assist

[green dagger]

you still get the principle of zero millisecond reactivity adjustments and movement compensation

even if at a slightly lower value

its still broken

rofl

[alpine trail]

It isnt broken

[pallid horizon]

if you cant make it on 4-3 through diamond then its just a skill issue tbh

[green dagger]

this kid thinks

bottom masters

is difficult

its crazy

[little verge]

Yeah it still works at range, you just have a smaller bubble to work with. The only time it doesn't work is for high powered optics.

[green dagger]

yea drop a 2x on that bitch and you still wont miss lmao

[alpine trail]

Because it is

[pallid horizon]

aim assist is disabled only on 6+ scopes

[alpine trail]

You dont see over half the player base in masters

If it was easy then you would

[green dagger]

because most of the playerbase are xbox dads playing pubs with their kids

😭

[unborn token]

Dude I'm pretty sure I've went over 2+ in depth videos of leg and packgod

And we are on the same bs topic

Can't make it up

[unborn token]

Pretty much every roller player on pc ik is

Either high diamond and doesn't play at all

Or masters/ pred

[alpine trail]

https://apexlegendsstatus.com/ranked-season15-split2

[teal willow]

@unborn token

[green dagger]

this is literally

[unborn token]

D1 has barely any players

Lmfao

[green dagger]

40% of the playerbase

that we can assume

[unborn token]

Elo

[green dagger]

doesnt play ranked

LOL

[sonic junco]

ranked distribution in apex is a joke

MATTER OF FACT

[unborn token]

The ranked system is a joke

[alpine trail]

Whats tht have to do with anything

[sonic junco]

yeah

that

[pallid horizon]

ranked is broken rn, it resets your rank randomly

[sonic junco]

ya

[green dagger]

those people dont count towards the rank distribution because they are nonparticipants

[unborn token]

Ranked has been joke is a joke and will continue being a joke

[green dagger]

apex is a joke and will continue being a joke

[pallid horizon]

s12 btw

so its not hard

[unborn token]

And I agree with this too

[alpine trail]

So?

[green dagger]

🤦‍♂️ nah i actually cant youre too stupid i cant reason with yo

@unborn token you guys have fun im gonna go sleep

[alpine trail]

So every pub player is just automatically masters lvl?

[unborn token]

The only time that achieving a high rank in apex will be even deemed good is when the game will have a comp ranked system in place

[pallid horizon]

if you dedicate 10+ hrs a week towards ranked and not making it past diamond 4 on roller u r just bad lol

[unborn token]

Realistically

Yes

[alpine trail]

Omfg

For people who have had thousands of hours in the game

And have fucking experience in br

[green dagger]

600 = thousands

ok

[green dagger]

never played a br before apex

ok

[unborn token]

I hit diamond I'm 230 hrs

💀

[torn oyster]

I'm simply bad at roller.

[unborn token]

Idk how you cant

[alpine trail]

A hackers input doesnt matter

[torn oyster]

Mnk far superior for me.

[green dagger]

????

i dont cheat??

[alpine trail]

Ah so u got carried to masters

[unborn token]

Hacker input?

[pallid horizon]

i mean if you have like 0 basics on roller then you will be bad at it

[unborn token]

BRO

[green dagger]

?? i have a 4kdr and can routinely drop 4ks in diamond

if you really need a carry to fucking bottom masters

[torn oyster]

I got like 10hrs on roller over 4 years

[green dagger]

go play gmod or some shit

😭

[torn oyster]

Maybe 15

And 7000 mnk

Apex alone

[unborn token]

Okay okay I need to ask this

Question

And answer fr

Do you use the main apex legends discord server ? @alpine trail

[alpine trail]

No

[unborn token]

Weird

[alpine trail]

Ur input doesnt matter to me

[unborn token]

Maybe you should

[green dagger]

yeah i wouldve thought someone with takes this shit would play there

[unborn token]

99% of that server shares the exact same opinion as you do

[green dagger]

ur input doesnt matter to anyone

😭

[unborn token]

Yy se

Same

[alpine trail]

Then maybe they r right

[pallid horizon]

do you often use subreddits like r/competitiveapex?

[torn oyster]

The reddit apex discord is literal hell.

[unborn token]

And that too

[alpine trail]

Y would i

[torn oyster]

It's ran by biased staff who give staff to ex staff if they ask for it.

[pallid horizon]

because you are highkey braindead

[green dagger]

♻️

[torn oyster]

Even if they aren't looking for staff

[alpine trail]

No im not

[torn oyster]

It's a horrible system

[unborn token]

Pretty much everyone I've seen use apex comp subreddit or main apex server shares

The same opinions

And views on the game

[alpine trail]

How tf am i braindead

[unborn token]

Because they are all casual

[pallid horizon]

casuals shouldnt talk about the meta, thats just logic

[torn oyster]

There's people like Dilly who hangs in game discussion from time to time who's an actual ranked player

But majority of that community are bronze-plat

[civic roost]

Facts

[torn oyster]

And play casually

[green dagger]

dilly is a breath of fresh air in that server

[unborn token]

Yeah

[torn oyster]

Who just simply enjoy the game

[unborn token]

Have you seen that Petey g person@torn oyster

[torn oyster]

I used to be a GD in main

Prob. I don't talk there anymore

It's a shit community discord

[civic roost]

Imo opinion if u r below master u dont know if for example AA is balanced or not ir if a gun is too op

[torn oyster]

People are way to sensitive in there

[green dagger]

i used to go there to 1v1 shitters to boost my ego

LOL

[unborn token]

People still care Abt ranked too mucu

[civic roost]

I see so many gold players saying AA is balanced

[unborn token]

Much

[alpine trail]

Im not casual

[torn oyster]

Idk when pronouns became the most offensive thing online.

[civic roost]

Lmao

[unborn token]

You are

[green dagger]

yes you are bro

[torn oyster]

But the second you bring it up

[green dagger]

😭

[torn oyster]

Everyone in general is on ur case

Like ???

[civic roost]

What is yalls definition of casials

[alpine trail]

Yeah i just play ranked for the hell of it

[pallid horizon]

THEN HOW ARE YOU NOT IN D3+????????

[torn oyster]

People who play the game to play the game

[green dagger]

i got a 12h mute in that server because i said xe/xim pronouns are stupid

[alpine trail]

BCUZ IM NEW TO THE FUCKING GAME

[civic roost]

LMAO

[civic roost]

Then u r casual

Like what

[torn oyster]

I mean respect it at least but.

[unborn token]

Someone that plays the game whenever he feels like it to have fun
Or someone who plays the game actively and doesn't care about improving

[torn oyster]

It's like the second u bring it up

[civic roost]

Ok i am not casual then

[torn oyster]

Everyone gets so sensitive

[alpine trail]

Casuals play the game for fun

I play it to improve and actually try to compete

[green dagger]

i dont respect neopronouns, by all means be gay lesbian straight whatever, trans they/them idc

[pallid horizon]

u r new to the game = u r a noob = bad at the game

[green dagger]

but i am not calling a motherfucker bunny/bunnyself

[civic roost]

based

[torn oyster]

Only take I have is this

When ur dead.
Male or female is going on that paper. All I'm saying

Anyways moving on

Apex

[alpine trail]

Doesnt mean casual

[green dagger]

real shit

delete this though they get pissed about stuff like this

lol

[civic roost]

True

[pallid horizon]

then get good, roller is turbo easy

[civic roost]

It does

[torn oyster]

Roller is just not for me

[green dagger]

@pallid horizon can you send me your pfp

[torn oyster]

I haven't actually figured out how to be good at it

[unborn token]

Roller is a free ticket to mechanical perfection

[torn oyster]

Tbh

[pallid horizon]

🫡

[alpine trail]

No it fucking isnt

[green dagger]

YES IT IS

YOURE JUST BAD

[dull falcon]

according to hal

[unborn token]

At that pt if you regularly play the game but aren't top ranks it's just your brain

[torn oyster]

Like I'm dogshit at long range beaming

[civic roost]

I got one clipped so often in ranked i switched to roller and it was free

[torn oyster]

Or moderate long range

[civic roost]

It is tho

[torn oyster]

People are like just don't move the stick

Like bro that's like don't move the mouse

It don't work like that.

[civic roost]

Like thars what i mean , new to the game and already talking about whars op or not

[alpine trail]

If it was so easy every controller play would be pro

[dull falcon]

its true for like shorter strafes

[torn oyster]

Most do now

[pallid horizon]

thats basically how it is know

[unborn token]

You still don't realise how much more goes into going pro

[pallid horizon]

everyone with 2+ braincells can compete on a decent level

[civic roost]

I mean there is a reason ppl with 6 k hours on mnk are switching to roller

[unborn token]

Bust most of them cracked ranked rollers make it

[torn oyster]

Pro players aren't defined by being cracked af

Skilled
Semi pro
Pro

[pallid horizon]

*with aim assist

[unborn token]

^

[prisma dome]

40% perfect aim by default = not easy??

[dull falcon]

thats almost half of the job

[unborn token]

Yeah apparently that's incredibly hard

[prisma dome]

lmaoo

[unborn token]

[torn oyster]

I mean most if not all pros are cracked af
But you don't need some tap strafe 720 wall bounce pk shot to be a Pro

[civic roost]

If u dont one clip ppl with roller or atleast outaim every1 u r just bad

And thats a dact

*fact

[torn oyster]

Decision making and impeccable game knowledge is key

[dull falcon]

and its crazy that console gets .6

[pallid horizon]

k4shera

[dull falcon]

pe5 next gen update yall wont be competing not more

[green dagger]

the majority of pros are now on roller btbw

[torn oyster]

Console is a 200$ toy box.

You telling me you pay money to play a free game online. As well as wifi

[prisma dome]

console kinda needs it cuz 60 fps 500ms input delay

[torn oyster]

Console input delay is bad I will agree

[unborn token]

It's ass

Played on my cousins xbox

Shit is actually aids

[torn oyster]

Let them have the .6

It's justified

[alpine trail]

I have braincells

[pallid horizon]

then you have like 12hrs in apex

or idk

[civic roost]

How many hours do u have

[green dagger]

damn im watching my old clipdumps

[alpine trail]

600

[green dagger]

i actually used to be

pretty good

[green dagger]

L M F A O

[civic roost]

Bro

[pallid horizon]

😭

[civic roost]

Thats nothing

[prisma dome]

pc should be lowered to .2 or just not have rotational aa imo

[pallid horizon]

u r bad at the game lil bro

[civic roost]

Bro thinks he studied apex

[civic roost]

Facts

[torn oyster]

Anyways got some stuff to wrap up.
Ref. Need to play sometime.

[alpine trail]

I never fucking said that

[torn oyster]

Post my solo q 1000 kills in a week challenge

[pallid horizon]

act like you do tho

[alpine trail]

I never said i wasnt

[pallid horizon]

then whats the point?

[civic roost]

I hit masters with 400 hours i think lmao , and i learned mnk while doing that

[civic roost]

Then dont talk abt roller being balanced

[pallid horizon]

u r just defending roller cuz you think its harder than mnk (which it isnt)

[civic roost]

I have 950 hpurs on PS and 2k on mnk

[unborn token]

@alpine trail homie my team8 got on after 1 week of not being on and still played arguably the same on roller

[green dagger]

buff stopping aa

remove rotational

i been saying this

[pallid horizon]

@green dagger u r on roller or mnk?

[civic roost]

Im a multi master and most of the other ppl are probably too , u just cant compete when it comes to knowledge

[green dagger]

mnk

but im competent enough on roller

or at least i was last time i played it

[unborn token]

I was a game away

[civic roost]

Not that hard🗿

[civic roost]

I feel ur pain bro

[unborn token]

Yeah but I also play comp and such so for me it doesn't matter as much

[civic roost]

Wanted to go for pred last split bzt then hackers happend eu was unplayable

[unborn token]

Although this season

[alpine trail]

Just play na

idgi

[unborn token]

It was actually aids

[young pine]

its the same issue in NA

[alpine trail]

nah it ist

[young pine]

unfortunately

[alpine trail]

isnt

way less cheaters

[civic roost]

I played a few scrims here and there but im only a duo so meh

[alpine trail]

sure still cheaters but nowhere near as many on na

[unborn token]

Unlucky

Scrims r also dogshit quality lately

[pallid horizon]

im locked in eu cuz on NA i get 230 ping which is lowkey unplayable (FOR ME!)

[alpine trail]

I just want to get better at the game

[unborn token]

Sometimes it feels like I'm in ranked

[pallid horizon]

then stop coping and aim train

[dull falcon]

where yall find scrims

[civic roost]

Just cant find a proper thrid that vibes w us

[unborn token]

Vnm

[civic roost]

Vnm i think

[alpine trail]

unlucky irl spawn

[unborn token]

Vnm and xravel

[young pine]

cheaters are an issue in every region rn

[civic roost]

Facts

Yall wanna see some mnk pain(inconsistency)?

[dull falcon]

just put in time its that simple and know that other ppl put more effort than you

[unborn token]

Xravel tho you have to be plq team

[alpine trail]

But i cant when all of you are talling me its impossible and controller is so easy and if im not masters then i should stop playing like do yall give a fuck about the player base at all? If it werent for people like me the game wouldnt still fucking exist

[dull falcon]

ye

[unborn token]

My ex team was banned from xravel mid scrims for running octame

Octane

[civic roost]

https://youtube.com/shorts/oy0rzYr6YYI?feature=share

[unborn token]

Lmao

[alpine trail]

Really? You act like i havent tried at all

[civic roost]

Ranked btw

[dull falcon]

bro this is apex mfs they will say pred is ez on roller or masters is free just do u and be proud of what u achieve

[green dagger]

if youre still on your journey egotripping and being a moron and not having the willingness to listen to people OBVIOUSLY more skilled/knowledgeable than you will literally only set you back btwb

[green dagger]

mnk inconsistency is crazy

what id give to have roller level

[civic roost]

Controller can carry u to diamond ez even if u r brain dead , change my mind

[unborn token]

Hurts

[civic roost]

Fr lmaooo

[alpine trail]

How tf can i be proud of it when everybody here just fucking looks down on me

[civic roost]

She was one

[green dagger]

we look down on you not because you arent good

[unborn token]

Master+ rollers are also braindead

Se of them

[floral lodge]

Because you legit clown yourself

[green dagger]

but because youre a moron who thinks you know a lot

[alpine trail]

Bullshit

[unborn token]

Some

[civic roost]

They just run at ppl

[floral lodge]

And only talk about how bad you are

[dull falcon]

no one said ur not trying but you’re competing bwith ppl who tryhard as well

[unborn token]

Essentially

[civic roost]

Bc ur opinion on AA

[prisma dome]

bro ur in an aim discord talkin bout controller being balanced idk what u expected

[green dagger]

we dont clown you because youre bad

we clown you because youre a moron with shit takes

[alpine trail]

Its balanced

[prisma dome]

its fine that u think that way but theres no way u expect to not get made fun of saying that here

[green dagger]

atp just stop talking g LOL

[civic roost]

Facts

[floral lodge]

But legit yuki every time you message it’s to say how bad you are at apex

[unborn token]

No 0 Ms reaction time on a artificialy assisted input is not balanced

[civic roost]

Any admins here to ban him?

[unborn token]

If you think it is

[floral lodge]

No one is clowning you besides yourself

[dull falcon]

not gonna cap tho yuuki aint as bad as emery

[floral lodge]

We tried giving you advice

[unborn token]

You are propably missing part of your brain

[green dagger]

tbh the one thing im sad about

is near the end of my playtime in apex

my aim wa s the best

but zero motivation

so i didnt put that in to the actual game

and just fucked around in range

and did a lot of 1vv1s

[young pine]

play controller if you want but dont complain about being bad while you're on roller. we cant help you with that. or sympathize

[civic roost]

Yo guys we need to chill we dont want him to be in his villian arc

[alpine trail]

The only fucking advantage controller has is mid to close range aim thts it

[civic roost]

Where are most fights again?

[green dagger]

just drop it youre only making yourself look more stupipd

[pallid horizon]

thats the majority of fights

bruh

[green dagger]

youre not killing a 3man from 100m you actual fucking dolt

[civic roost]

I forgor we r playing sniper elite not apex

[prisma dome]

yea which is where 80% of fights occur in apex and its not just an "advantage" it is aimbot lol

[floral lodge]

Yeah it’s a shame that’s the only roller advantage in an SMG meta right

[alpine trail]

Yeah just stand in one spot and shoot youll win all ur gunfights

[civic roost]

W/o gibby bubble fight , damn they need to buff AA

[green dagger]

in your fucking pisslow elo maybe sure

[floral lodge]

Legit smg meta is full swing rn

[green dagger]

600 hours my ass dawg

[civic roost]

Bro yuuki ur takes are getting worse

[floral lodge]

But shotguns are decent to counter

[civic roost]

Bro w 600 hours he knows more than hal , let him cook

[young pine]

even with the shotgun buff rollers are gross

[civic roost]

Facts

[unborn token]

I do not know anyone with even the slightest level of self respect that would throw out so many wrong takes and defend them

So hard

[green dagger]

mfw burst weapon is now the best ar in the game

[unborn token]

Even if he is so wrong

[green dagger]

let him die on that hill

not our problem

[civic roost]

True

[alpine trail]

From my experience mnk is easier

[civic roost]

Well "your expirience " is worth nothing

[young pine]

he's not alone. 99% of controller players think the way he does. they just dont bring it into here of all places. they're on tiktok and yt

[green dagger]

your experience doesnt matter since youre in plastic elo you fucking shitter oh my god stop talking

[alpine trail]

Im going off of my experience not other peoples opinions

[unborn token]

Yeah ik

They are braindead

[civic roost]

Peak rank?

[unborn token]

Bronze

@civic roost

Actually silver

[civic roost]

Max

[unborn token]

Silver apparently

[alpine trail]

That has nothing to do with mechanics

[young pine]

they think they're still using the AA from 10 years ago. they have no idea the power creep

[green dagger]

ur

so

stupid

[civic roost]

It does tho

[unborn token]

It does

[green dagger]

oh my god

[civic roost]

Poor guy is making it worse and worse

[alpine trail]

The only fuckers making it worse is yall

[unborn token]

No

Your mindset is

[pallid horizon]

Bruh😭

[civic roost]

Get out of silver before u talk to me

[alpine trail]

My opinions matter

[unborn token]

No

They dont

[prisma dome]

dying on this hill in the vt server is just wild to me

[civic roost]

They dont lil bro

[prisma dome]

like why are u even here 😭

[unborn token]

Because you don't play the game

At the level we do

And constantly complain

About how bad you are

[civic roost]

Fkn casuals oh my god

[unborn token]

Idk bro if you were at a hell's kitchen episode Gordon would've lost his shit with you

[alpine trail]

I constantly ask for help and all yall fucking do is fucking shit talk me

[unborn token]

NO

You ask for help

we help

AND YOU NEGLECT IT

[young pine]

you shit talk yourself. we give advice. you give excuses why that wont/doesnt work

[civic roost]

This a mnk Server btw, u r roller lmao

[alpine trail]

Telling me to play tdm isnt fucking help

[unborn token]

Fucking god someone said it

[civic roost]

It is u donut

[green dagger]

THAT IS ADVICE YOU MORON

[unborn token]

IT IS

COZ IT FUCKING HELPS YOU

IDIOT

[civic roost]

U want to improve mechanics play gamemode with pure gun skill

[young pine]

theres no fast track to being better at the game. it takes thousands of hours. its not gonna happen overnight

[civic roost]

He knows what is good advice and what isnt , he has 600 hours in game

[alpine trail]

Ik this

[civic roost]

Then just listen to peoplr

[alpine trail]

Telling me what to do doesnt fucking help me

[young pine]

so when we tell you to play the game and the best way to play the game, listen

[alpine trail]

I dont fucking learn like tht

[civic roost]

IT DOES

[prisma dome]

hes used to having 40% of the task completed for him so hes not used to putting in a ton of effort to get better

[civic roost]

Nah im done with this dude

No way telling him what to do dosent help him

[alpine trail]

Everybody learns differently

[civic roost]

If ur aim is bad = aimtrain

[green dagger]

get checked for autism or something man

idk

LOL

[alpine trail]

Fuck you

[young pine]

Relax Templar wtf lol

[green dagger]

stay mad

[civic roost]

If ur mechanics are bad = play game mode that relies on mechanics

[alpine trail]

Stay trash

[unborn token]

That one was

[elfin sierra]

is this real

[green dagger]

you are silver

[civic roost]

Ok silver

[green dagger]

you will remain silver

[prisma dome]

bro everyone learns differently but everyone still needs to practice to get better

[unborn token]

💀

[green dagger]

you have 600 hours

[teal willow]

Woah

[green dagger]

and are still silver

like

??

[teal willow]

Everyone scawy

[green dagger]

dude

get real

[alpine trail]

I didnt say at the game

[teal willow]

Why cant everyone hug each other

[unborn token]

We are the apex community

[civic roost]

Read chat then u get it haha

[unborn token]

That'll never happen

[teal willow]

Fair

Continue

[prisma dome]

if u refuse to practice u will never be better, that is. life.

[teal willow]

I'll continue loving myself

[civic roost]

Whats ur in game rank?

[young pine]

only way to get better at the game is to play the game alot. thats it.

[civic roost]

Facts

[teal willow]

I'm bronze 4 guys

Am i cute?

[unborn token]

@teal willow

[teal willow]

Hi

[unborn token]

Wtf did rito do to sol

[young pine]

you're the wrong kind of predator

[teal willow]

AHAHAAH

[unborn token]

Mf got disabled

[civic roost]

If u want better mechanics play a mechanic based gamemode

[unborn token]

Plus

Nerfed

💀

[teal willow]

Asol is now a barf monster

[unborn token]

Like I saw a yt

Vid

[teal willow]

He's such a weird champ

Stationary turret

[unborn token]

They reworked him

[alpine trail]

I havent had one person give me constructive critisism or actually show me what to do

[unborn token]

And now apparently he actually broke the game

So they nerfed him and disabled him

Rito shit

[teal willow]

Ahahaha

Rito stuff ttue

[civic roost]

Bro we r telling u to play tdm

[teal willow]

True*

[unborn token]

Nah homie

[alpine trail]

How

[wintry cypress]

Average aimtraining / improvement gamer

[civic roost]

Bros brain is fried

[unborn token]

If someone ever gives you constructive criticism you will realistically break down and cry @alpine trail

💀

[prisma dome]

if u want better gun skill play tdm, thats the advice they've been giving u just dont want to accept it

[alpine trail]

Like in what way telling me to play a game mode is one thing but i gotta know if i need to be playing it a certain way

[green dagger]

just play it like youre supposed to????

[wintry cypress]

1 start apex
2 select tdm gamemode
3 click ready
4 choose legend and loadout
5 play

[teal willow]

You just play the game mode...

[prisma dome]

ok i gotchu

[civic roost]

Just run at people thats what tdm is

[pallid horizon]

ok guys I ACTUALLY NEED HELP AND IM NOT BRAINDEAD <<<<<<<<<<<<<<<😱

[teal willow]

There's no secret pill to doing it

[civic roost]

Addy🗿

[alpine trail]

Okay ill run around and shoot at people and not care about dying

[green dagger]

yes

exactly

thats how

you isolate your mechanics

[civic roost]

Exactly

[teal willow]

I never tried tdm, but if anything, practice fundamentals

[green dagger]

like unironically

[teal willow]

And see what you lack in

[green dagger]

what are you trying to prove

[wintry cypress]

Just get as many kills/dmg as you can, get used to fighting, using movement, try to get better aim etc

[teal willow]

Isolating fights, positioning, aim etc

I dont even play apex

[young pine]

load into TDM or br and kill people. run at them if you die go next

[teal willow]

You just want to develop good habits

[wintry cypress]

Ye

[civic roost]

True

[teal willow]

Point of most deathmatches

[prisma dome]

prioritize picking close range loadouts (car pk, r9 wingman) and run forward and take as many fights as possible, dont sit in buildings waiting for enemies to come to u, be the one to initiate the fights and u'll learn how to isolate 1v1s when theres multiple targets and get good at playing close range cover like boxes and shit to avoid damage.

[civic roost]

Alot of based ppl in here might have to write in here more

[alpine trail]

See is it so hard to explain it tht way???

[civic roost]

Actualy

People dint need to explain HOW FKN TDM WORKS

Actual Controller brain

[dull falcon]

isolate a 1v1 then get one clipped gotbt📝

[prisma dome]

thats what they mean when they say "play tdm"

[prisma dome]

yeee thats what i do fr

[alpine trail]

Thats not the tdm i grew up with

[unborn token]

I'm literally losing braincells by the second

[prisma dome]

damn really?

[civic roost]

U were Camping wirh a shotgun?

[unborn token]

I'm fucking off the chat

[prisma dome]

that sucks actually

[young pine]

Team Death Match, its a death match. the objective is to kill other players

??

[alpine trail]

I played call of duty

[civic roost]

Have good day bro, do some maths so u regain the braincells

[unborn token]

I have covid I'll prob just sleep

[civic roost]

Shotgun Player

[civic roost]

Get well soon bro

[alpine trail]

AR

[civic roost]

And sitting around in a corner?

[alpine trail]

No

I dont camp

[civic roost]

Running at people?

[alpine trail]

If its tdm or f4a yes

Obj based modes then yeah u camp

[civic roost]

WHY DONT U JUST DO IT IN APEX THEN

Free for All, every1 vs every1

Oh yea

I see

Shotgun players

[prisma dome]

f4a is wild

[alpine trail]

Becuz ffa to me was a thing in highschool

[young pine]

yuuki, stop camping in any game.

[alpine trail]

Thts literally how u win in CoD

[civic roost]

😭😭

[civic roost]

But not how u improve u donut

[prisma dome]

stop caring about winning in casual modes !

[alpine trail]

You cant win Hardpoint by running around the map mindlessly

[civic roost]

Um actually

U can

[alpine trail]

In ranked

[civic roost]

🤓🤓

[prisma dome]

😭

[civic roost]

U dont Camp in ranked either

Especially not in silver

[alpine trail]

Whens the last time you watched CDL?

Im not tlking about apex

[civic roost]

When was the last time u had a good take on anything

[wintry cypress]

Ranked hardpoint?!

[alpine trail]

Something im good at

[civic roost]

Go play cod then

Bur dont try to teach me the game

[alpine trail]

When tf

I havent

[civic roost]

U r saying roller is balanced

[alpine trail]

Bcuz it is

[civic roost]

Actually braindead

O my

[teal willow]

Hal picked up controller and won a major

Balanced btw

[civic roost]

U r just bad

[alpine trail]

Yea im braindead for having an opinion

[teal willow]

WHO IS IMPERIALHAL?

[civic roost]

Ur opinion is wrong

[prisma dome]

yea the opinion is braindead

[civic roost]

Its like saying walking on foot for 10 miles is faster than driving a car on that distance

[dull falcon]

He is the GRIND

[teal willow]

FOR THE BLIND

[civic roost]

And the PASSION

I ll take the flight

Or the AA

Same thing

[alpine trail]

Controller isnt easy

[civic roost]

Stop talking

Just shuuush

Are u Einstein?

[prisma dome]

smartest man in the world

[civic roost]

Ong

[placid root]

Any input that has computer assist will take away from human inconsistency and allow for braindead plays that don't work on PC. To argue this is stupid.

[wintry cypress]

Ong 💯

[young pine]

controller players are a lost cause. they're too delusional to even fact check and find out the truth

[lethal wraith]

hot take: in fps games if controller can compete with mnk at all it's too strong

[wintry cypress]

I mean it aint even like that at this point

A lot of ppl just pick up roller and outaim vt jade within 50 hours or so

Maybe 100, idk

💯

Shoulda been nova smh

[quaint karma]

the issue is that you can do things on controller

with ease

that you CANNOT do on mnk

like at all

its impossible to gr ind to get 0ms reaction time

[wintry cypress]

Nah you can do the same shit besides having instant reactivity

[quaint karma]

which is the biggest part of it

[wintry cypress]

Roller just does it more consistently

[lethal wraith]

controller can tapstrafe and ras strafe better than mnk

[civic roost]

So do 99% of pc rollers

[lethal wraith]

literal macros

[young pine]

YES! controller was never meant to compete with mnk

also yeah controller movement is way more fluid than it is on mnk. if the majority figure out configs its over

[dull falcon]

configs are so free

[little verge]

Lurch is legitimately better on roller than M&K. Thank god they're banning those cfgs and not the ones that make it easier to see

[wet skiff]

yea haha I've been playing OW and EFT

EFT is shit though, gonna uninstall on friday. Just playing this last week to learn labs then probably never again.

[wet skiff]

Yes, but you still took the fight so it means you had a learning opportunity. If your confidence is so low you are afraid to fight, you won't have learning opportunities when you die. Being gunned down while running away or trying to hide teaches you nothing. Losing a fight that you took gives you something to review and learn from

[unborn token]

[wintry cypress]

oh wait

https://tenor.com/view/goofy-ahh-memes-shawty-trifling-gif-25933054

[vague nexus]

https://cdn.discordapp.com/attachments/638842077979082753/1076985244168761465/81162427-5037-4676-BD4B-E0A29A8C91D3.mov

[dull falcon]

whats that yt channel with the guy who talks ab performance and health and sciencey shit

[young pine]

Andrew Huberman?

[young pine]

Nice! How many packs?

Wait lmao

I didn't watch the full video

[civic roost]

💀

[civic roost]

andrew tate

https://www.youtube.com/channel/UC2D2CMWXMOVWx7giW1n3LIg

[dull falcon]

thanks gab

[nimble edge]

just watched ottr video and apparently in diamond bucket 30% of players are solo q and 70% are stacked

so if u solo q to reduce times they pull shit players up to play with u most of the time.

and diamond bieng only 1% of players doesn’t help that either

[quaint karma]

new video?

all i know is different matchmaking is coming

[nimble edge]

watch it

it’s actually really interesting

[quaint karma]

is it a new video

[nimble edge]

yes

well

[quaint karma]

based on what data

[nimble edge]

like 3 days old i think

[nimble edge]

since they are changing sbmm a dev on the matchmaking team explained how there system worked in great detail

[quaint karma]

i read it

when it was posted

didnt see anything about the 30 or 70%

or what players you get

[nimble edge]

he made a chart explaining it

[quaint karma]

whered he get the data tho

[nimble edge]

i don’t think u read the right thing

[quaint karma]

theres only one

[nimble edge]

he’s a dev they have statistics

[quaint karma]

https://www.ea.com/games/apex-legends/news/matchmaking-2023

[nimble edge]

like they collect data

[quaint karma]

ottr isnt a dev tho

[nimble edge]

bro ottr is the guy who made the video i watched 💀

[quaint karma]

oh yeah i forgot this chart

mb

[nimble edge]

u just have to scroll down it’s there

and what i was gonna say is