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thats frame blending/resampling with low fps
i think no motion blur is better unless you can record 240fps the flowframes stuff looks kinda weird
i record at 60 and it looks fine
yeah looks fine unless you enable resampling/frame blending
I just thought it was low FPs with rsmb cranked
im trying to figure out how to make it like this
like the little blur effect or just make the images look clearer
like viscose does in their videos
the infinite wall bounces?
@rancid pike
it’s something with the fatigue bounces is why it works
i haven’t learned it yet but i think its something to do a lil with wall running i dont know
any1 know how to calculate ur 1x sens in apex to kovaaks
it is 240 fps
like as a recording it looks perfect
i didn`t do anything
i rendered in vegas
and idk why it looks so weird
tysm for the feedback
what is apex 110 fov to overwatch fov?
Play all four of Trippez Smooth Reactivity playlists at 9cm to 20cm/360
Or, just play r5r using your same in game sens.
It's a gajillion times better for you than grinding out kovaaks at your 1x sens.
yea i alr play r5 just that my clicking is weak and i wanted to test out the 1x in vaaks
for wing
apex 110 is a lot more than overwatch
Play lg56's advanced strafing/movement playlist. You dont need to do yiur 1x sens
it`s imposible to get 110 apex fov to ow
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And then this scenario. Play it at high sens
27 cm gaming
High sens controlsphere so good for you
103ow is 87.3 on apex but trust me don`t do that play atleast 90 or more
@copper forge
:)))
bro
if u want to get good at apex
it works for me my aim is insane over the last 2 days that im trying this. I just play whatever smoothness routine i can find with very high sens 25cm or higher and it actually works
@rancid pike
i mean
for me its very low
like
play what a sens
that makes u feel like u can`t control it
what is ur normal sens?
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=uy8WYRRFsZk&t=7s&ab_channel=Skoodie(KovaaksNoob) @vague nexus @alpine trail I have redone it and it`s better now
i play on 50cm or smth around that
more i think
ohhhh
yea
i meant high
shit
like
low cm
brooo i just realised what i said :)))))))))))
myb
but yea what i said works
smh

yeah looks betrter than b4
quality still a bit bad tho
1280x720?
makes sense
yea i just upgraded to 3080ti so i could get 240 lmao
1200 which was retail back then when they were being resold for wayyyy more
cheaper now tho (i think)
yeah i just looked on the used market and theyve went down a lot
idk tho
like
the thing is
is apex gpu or cpu bound
i know for a fact csgo is cpu bound
and u need a better cpu to get more fps
but what about apex
i already had i9 before and 2080super->3080ti gave me a noticable fps boost
I got a ryzen 7 6800H laptop with a 3060 in it
Laptop was $1500
One sec
ryzen for sure imo then
what do u think abt the 1080ti
Low settings capping at about 140fps
i looked at a second hand for very cheap
that`s good for a laptop
range nothing compared to game with 100 ppl
true true
not legit 100 but u know what i mean
yeayea
high player count lower fps
yeye obv
also some maps are just laggy some places idk why its weird
i drop below 200 in some places with my setup
i have like very tweaked pc tho
looking for 3rd ranked LEAGUES gold3
what is leagues?
oh:))))
I cant play ranked
im d4
im not home rn
oh okok
are you roller?
Nah just new to mnk
next season i will fully commit to roller but still aim train
How does one tap strafe on mnk
stack lurches
Huh
ok the reason why tap strafe is a thing is lurching
search it on youtube
i got a confession. i cannot control the flatline recoil for the LIFE of me n i’ve only ever hit one flatline clip in my life n it was the easiest clip too
this is my one n only clip with it lol but besides this, i literally CANNOT control the flatline
imma be forced to run the flatline next split
i mean season
also that clip is basically you shooting at a stationary target

thats what im gettin at. easiest clip you could ever hit n thats my 1 and only ever clip
with me and the flatline
i literally just cannot use it. period.
Flatline easy
not for me
I cant wall jump lol
nor can i
but i've never wanted to play this game much anyway until recently
and even then i stick to r5 and LTMs
Ive been playing since seaon like 3
how can oyu not walljump if youve been playing since s3
i can only use like the flatline and alternator but i'm a shit shot and my game sense is even more shit
Cause i originally played on controller
This is the only mnk season ive done
Timing is issue
scroll wheel
Have it bound to jump
Still have to time it
not really at all…
U have to know how far away from the wall to jump to be able to hit it right
there’s no hope
i wish apex didn't have the monopoly on these kinds of mechanics
because not everyone wants just BR or a BR-first experience
the only alternative is cod or team/tactical shooters
Got it
Its kinda easier on mnk than controller
Then how do u tap strafe on mnk
Pathfinder just blocked my silence
Up is my weapon swap
How am i supposed to swap weapons
This is gonna kill my fingers
just play some doom eternal
where you have to juggle like 10 different weapons
with a different keybind eah
each
1 for primary and 2 for secondary wont feel hard anymore
Or fortnite
i personally chose to bind q and e to the guns in apex and two of the slots in fortnite
I just bound q to swap weapon
And have my ult and tactical on my side mouse buttons
i need to rebind more keys myself
Whats ur sens?
Im 1.5 on 1800dpi
Its Kandyrews sens i think
No wait
Its timmies sens
Kinda he does 1.1 on 1800dpi
It also says it on his stream
I use the mouse side buttons
Im more wrist player oriented so i need a slightly higher sens
Thats not really "slightly" lol
I bound Q to tht
Side buttons are for tactical and ult abilities
Yeah ig 0.4 isnt much a diff at all
Lowering it to 1.1 to see if it makes my aim more consistent
How far you move your mouse for 360deg turn
Its easier to talk about multiple games with cm
Like 1.0 ow and 1.0 apex are totally different
True
But ow is way more complicated
Ur sens basically changes based on the character u play
I swear making banners match with some characters is kinda hard lol
not really
if we're talking about hitscan
the only character i would change is like maybe tracer
Im tlking like genji vs say widowmaker
Nah i meant whole roster
I cant play tanks lol
Honestly im trash at OW
My best game is COD and i cant play it cuz my controller is fucked
And yes ik u can play cod on mnk but not if u wanna try for cdl
It was made for controller
I never understand why people say that. Call of Duty devs were Medal of Honour devs, both games starting purely on PC.
people only know of the cod games since like cod4
the alt solo ranked experience
My issue is not knowing who to main
I need someone whos good with movement but doesnt completely rely on it
wraith
blood hound, mad maggie and horizon
well maybe not bh since his ult gonna not have speed anymore
Isnt wraiths whole kit based around movement
horizon is almost entirely movement dependent and maggie is only good because of her movement on shotguns
its based around an initiator playstyle
you dont really "need" good movement to use wraith other than good use of cover
but the speed boosts and potential to get out of bad situations compliments movement well
And useful in ranked
once again, very useful in ranked
her kit allows your team to adapt a more consistently aggressive playstyle because all her abilities revolve around initiating fights and getting out of shitty situations
Plus a small hitbox
Wraith and Octane for a backup
i gave concideration into dropping wraith next season and going to octane but that man didnt get a single buff 
and wraith buff is solid enough to keep playing her.
Octane doesnt need a buff
Hes really good if you know how to use his kit effectively
Hence this
Not my stats btw
I wish i was tht good
Ill admit i got boosted to plat but only bcuz i needed an ego killer to show me i cant compete with people in those ranks
you guys think I can get done with the bp if im at like 90 rn?
dont have all of the play 12 matches as challenges yet
An excerpt from "Encounters at the End of the World" by Werner Herzog, 2007.
Most likely then
Im on 100 but i cant make it to 110
Ive done basically all my missions
If i can go from 1 to 100 in less than a week then ur fine
rofl
Idk I just bought it once I got the r301 skin so I think I already get my coins back but still
the 1v1 server or which one is it?
1v1
is it still filled with neostrafe and superglide cfg abusers?
Neostrafe?
What?
i want a cookie
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Dont think its really that useful in ingame situations but its still stupid in 1v1s if you can literally do it just by adding cfgs
yeah its kinda stupid
its not like its impossible to fight them but its just like
well, nice, you can follow a guide on how to add a neostrafe cfg
superglides are easy to deal with just beam them
probably, but what the vid is about is neostrafing which is basically just ras strafing 20 times after eachother
idk with all the "new" lurch techs
all the same stuff with new edgy names 💀
controller movement mfs will swear theyre good
I wanna move like Lemonhead lol
Have good aim and not lose your ones and utilize movement where it benefits you
And it isn't mindless
Movement
Lemonhead
People like lemon and faide
Limaozinho
What you see most of the time is cherry picked clips of insane movement against people who just purchased the game
So while it looks good I’d say like 9/10 it isn’t practical
People's perception of movement is mostly
:(
They upload clips against streamers
Supergliding tap strafing on some gold shitter
Or wall bouncing and hitting a pump shot
Sure
Yeah my gran could stream on twitch doesn’t mean she’s a good apex player
Then some good player hits you for 100 on your wall jump

@floral lodge loom incoming
I’m just getting ready to drive back man cba
Got caught in so much traffic trying to come home Friday
But I should be home like in the afternoon
Aim train with the car brother
but tbh I would rather have good consistent aim and good movement in terms of strafe and dodge rather than be an unidentified flying object in game
@opelastra
ahahahahahah
Your aim is shaky

Should i main octane or wraith
Like if you’re wanting good movement first learn everything you can about strafe and dodge aim then worry about wallbounces and other techs
Wraith is gonna be good next season
So
@floral lodge do I invest my 50 on the loom
Or
Cause you use strafe aim in genuinely almost encounter but you’re not gonna superglide tapstrafe neo backflip in every fight
I get quake
Bro I just remembered I get internet on Thursday
Also I would get both tbh quake live is good
God supergliding at 144fps is hard
Don't even remember how many Packs I'm on
Last time I needed 140 for next loom
That was
Like
100 levels ago
Or smth
Yeah but idk the portal mechanics like where to place and everything
That's easy as shit
WRAITH
Im about to do voltaics aim course for like a week straight see if tht helps
aim training is like like working out u will improve fast at first then for whatever reason the progress comes at a slower pace after
i dont mean like highscores ( but like actually getting better)
I cant get higher than 77 on SOA
soa?
Scout of action
i cap out at like 100-104
reformed we have same 1w5ts score 💀
Got 82 with 98.80 accuracy
speed static is anoying as hell i dont get it
84 uwu
How?
wdym how?
How u score tht high
Gonna get off
I mean out
So
Once I'm back sure
I kinda rly wanna go for loom
This aint gonna happen anymo in s16
EA plz remove laser sights n bring back barrel stabilizers...
i hate the way my smg's look they look like chodes
Yes please. Lazers just convolute the loot pool
fax. and hipfiring IMO was already more than enough for me before lasers. at the same time, not many people hipfired anyways
its a habit to ads even when close
Guns also look better w barrel stebs
And all that practice on recoil with no steb

Stab
Idk why I said steb
Stab
Stabilizer
💀
Lasers never made any sense to me. They just created an item to solve a problem they created because???
Is this aim playlist actually gonna help?
when apac n plq finals are at game 13 with 17 teams in mp
if i had good ai mmaybe i could get more kills
Tap strafe into a wall bounce
Yeah but he isn't talking Abt that
Tap strafe wall bounce?
God my kd fr this season is only 0.7
Wdym
Wall bouncing and then tap strafing is better
For momentum and just getting away
From people
Both wall bouncing and tap strafing r easy
Ras strafing as well
You'll adapt them into your game with time
It's just keys you press tbh
Yeah but idk how to do the wall bounce tap strafe over the wall
Just run at a wall
Wall bounce and tap strafe
Wherever you wanna go
But propably better if you learn each one individually
Then you can combine em just fine
god i hate this game in diamond asia lobby always ddos akjdbuiBUBIdbauidsnuioad😡
And in NA servers everyone pushes stupidly
Lmao emea is even worse
Every game someone in it is cheating his balls off
And every 5 games you get ddosed
By some no lifer ape
Ranked is just a fucking mess this split
the ddos been going on for like 3 split or more and dev dgaf lol
I literally cannot play in d2 d1 lobbies with @quaint karma and @vague nexus
Without getting ddosed
Or dying to a cheater team
Way worse rn
once u hit diamond is just ddos 80% of the time
The higher in diamond it's more like
Every game pretty much
Most of games if not all
Random Chinese pathfinders that just one clip people bro
Sure
Level 100s and shit in pred
Kekw
It's a fking joke at this point
Even nix is struggling
yea impossible to ply unless swap to other region
It's pretty much ass for everyone
The amount of 6 man's and shit youll find
As well
oh well back to my singleplayer game
Hogwarts legacy is good
yea saw some of the reviews, but gotta clear my backlog first
I want u motivaton to play Apex
grind
Even without the controversy I'm still not interested. It's a shame because, instead of complaining about Apex, I could be playing a game like FFXIV but I am just not into fantasy games and media in general.
Just not a big fantasy geek?
I just queued in with a double master player
Like whyyy
Oh wait thts br and arenas
Still tho
No
Apex needs to do a huge rehaul on its matchmaking system
It's a shame because the streamers I like are mostly fantasy geeks and the only thing I had in common with them was Apex
The did that like a month ago
Its like super easy now, for me at least
Got like 5 wins in a row badge twice now
Against? Or in your team?
??????!!!!!
on god
Apex needs to fix ranked / ban hackers any boosters ,i just cant gain rp if i get aimbotet every second game
yeah in eu since there is ddos protection, the servers get ddosed by some chinese mfs all the time
every other game the server will go up to 20 packet loss
and ik its ddosers cause in pubs that doesnt happen ever
For some reason my games dont have ddos protection anymore
And i just get killed by some chinese guy on 300 ping walls and aimbot
I did yesterday lmao
you in diamond?
Truly an apex expirience
Duh
Idek bro
cause i didnt really pay attention to the badge
the ddos protection i think just has another layer of protection to not get spammed by packets and crash
but i guess chinese players found a way
They have 1 guy on each server banning people
Yk that right
It’s so dumb
yeh ik
hahahahaha
i remember one random weekend i went to go play with a friend.
just randomly just bsing, no comms, just having a laugh
7 win streak that day.
forever ago
E works for 99 things, good game design
yo @lapis moat what is ur sens res and fov on apex?
doki plays on 4.5 sens 3200 dpi 1440x1080
if i want someone out i go pick up the scout of action scout and throw it out
makes their screen black and they loose their guns

@dusky summit bro what do u think about the duration time of the game on r5? i think 10 mins would be better
Same, just bully him to leave
1600dpi 0.8, 1728 1080, 110 fov
I just learned how to mantle jump but like I'm not going that high
what am I doing like wrong
You really just gotta grind it out
1.2 is really goated
Does someone have that rotational aim assist Reddit post that gets thrown around here from time to time?
Iirc chensou osizan and ras play on 1.2
Selly plays on 1.5
Top tier mechanical skill tends to be in that range ^
i like .9 like when i play 1.2 and go back to .9 my aim feels sticky
Agreed anyone can get good with any sens, but a median sens of top tier apex players is a good reference
Yes
i hate ppl on apex who will play insanely high sens
it makes everything look blurry to me
Faide, Timmy
^theyre exceptional ( i want to try high sens to see if it helps me get better)
its the only thing i havent done yet
Faide looks blurry but plenty of peeps with higher sens look normal
Timmyis 22
I thought they were both closer to 20
since when
timmys sens is wack ngl
Just that faide twitches around sporadically like crazy
If timmy is wack then what is skittles?
hes a lunatic
Haha
skittles who?
Optic skittlecakes is 9cm
that guy
has to be slower than 30cm no?
while wall jumping from right next to a wall, how do I consistently get the climbing animation to trigger instead of just jumping against the wall
stop holding crouch
gonna try roller for the first split of next season
ok so this is my score from lmy last run of centering
i am going to try it again
lasat run was 14k
Ima still aim train but i need to get it out of my system
my fried who plays controller and mnk ( hes more reliable on controller) i want him to like aim train but hed rather click dots on roblox all day ( some one piece game)
i want him to like spend at least 30 mins so he can improve but idk how to convince him
Dont try its a huge waste of time if you dont enjoy it
Let bro enjoy his onepiece game
i want him to at least get like silver complete
Dont inflict the curse of wanting to be good at videogames onto others 
Rawr
but this man got an ego fr
Who do?
Itd be nice to have teamates tht actually try
Soloq and playing stacked really do be night and day, at least for me today
So far soloq is basically a no fill for me
Idk I soloq first today, had one guy basically throw my game by jumping solo into frag (in ranked). Half the randoms actually just throw because of inting or playing with the farsight of a fruit fly. Played stacked later and just ran thru the lobbies.
Kinda would like to get a consistent team going but I take what I can get
I cant stack
Got nobody to play with
Even if i did id just be holding the team back
if yopu want to play arenas rn im down
dont get within 10 merters of controller players and ur good
@alpine trail ur just hotdropping in pubs right
Yea
Done
Im bad ugh
its hard not to panic when two ppl are jumping you
I didnt panic
But it means i cant play with anyone
Tbh
I offer nothing to the team
Its nothing to do with whether they care
Im the one who cares
Ive played under 300 hrs with 2.36k games and my kd is 0.58
broski i dont care if youre bad we enjoy the process of winning and losing
my kdr was .51 now its 1.0+
But i switch to mnk and this season so far with 419 games my kd is 0.7
I dont understand how to use all these movement mechanics in a fight my main goal is to just hit my shots and alot of the time i dont
I cant even crouch strafe
Is there a downloadable file of Apex scenario?
use left control as ur bind for hold to crouch
I use left shift
its all preference
Should i even try to implement movement
i think thats the least of your worries/ u dont need fancy movement to be good
I feel like kovaaks wouldnt help me
it helps
what you should do is switch back to the roller
The scenarios dont feel realistic to the game
Why?
what are you even playing on kovaaks
because its much easier
its not about the scenarios its ab what they teach you
The voltaic playlist
Not really
yes really
Plus i cant
why not
I dont have a controller
no fill trios is so hard
well if you cant buy one
idk how faide or anyone else does it
but roller is way easier on this game
what sens did you play anyways
on controller
nosh u left the puff gang??
someone gotta do this irl
that doesnt look real
if it is it looks like those models that look like dolls or cgi idk
her fingers dont seem off so she not ai generated
maturing is realizing that alc is ass and 4-4 linear is goated
no point in playing 4-4
Maturing is moving to mnk for good
3 ads is fast enough to track anything you see, unless theyre way too close
i prefer 4 on ads i can catch up to certain movements
yeah but roller has a huge advantage on this game
U cant do the same movement
Configs is cheating
if you care about winning, movement wont do anything for you
its mostly just for fun
well in any case
roller is much better on this game
especially at your skill level
plus youre familiar with it
the .4 aim assist is there, no matter how good you are
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well all im saying is youre making it harder on yourself by playing mnk
and this is a game that you have to grind
if you wanna ge tbetter
especially on mnk
Im doing better on mnk than i did on controller
yeah cuz you played the most dumb high sensitivity ever
uncontrollable
literally max hipfire sens
genburten type beat
and way too high of an ADS sens
Its what im ised to
no, its what made you bad
Its what i played in cod
it takes like 30 mins to get used to a new sens maybe even less
i mean
clearly it didnt lead to success
but fi you dont have a controller anyways
its whatever
dk what to tell you tho cuz if you actually wanna get better
youll be grinding this shit for a long time
and by that time you might have the money to get a controller
play arenas or tdm when it comes out
I couldnt barely move on controller either
wym
I couldnt strafe at all
hold the analog stick
It made my aim worse
Strafing made my aim worse
well no shit
its harder to aim while moving than it is being stationary
but you kinda have to strafe
otherwise you just insta die
idk maybe i just expect too much personally
im sure people play games and are totally ok with being mediocre at them
or even 'bad'
cuz if you do not wanna be that
you have to put in many thousands of hours
from where you are right now
if im understanding you correctly
this game is hard as fuck
especially on mnk
idk what voltaic playlist youre playing
but all you really shoudl be playing is tracking
The one in the suggestions
is it aim labs or kovaaks hes doing
Kovaaks
play viscose plaza intermediate, cata ic long strafes invincible, revolving strafes
thoser are good scens
i can send you a playlist i do
well im assuming hes like iron voltaic or something so idk
your stuff might be too hard
its not hard
Iron?
ill take ur stuff 🧐
getting to gold complete helps alot
I cant do benchmark
I dont have a subscription
send me the code
i can but it has other stuff in it
i dont play that tho
used to
KovaaKsCrossfiringRangedDoghouse
this is just the start and end of the playlist
basically
Idk what those r
benchmark guide
How am i supposed to do this?
i can help you if you need i have time
@quaint karma add me on steam
55232391@dull falcon
see whats really funny is that whenever i get shot at in this game i panic, then i look at the health bar and it barely moved
What?
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I meant video recording
what do you need vid recording for?
for a server role
no
i think this is for like higher ranks i dont think you need to worry ab server role
you need to take screenshots of the scores
for server role
unless youre gm
which you arent
you need to play the novice benchmarks
are you gm
well i havent actually played the benches cuz i hate them
but im like gm to nova reactive
i played plaza intermediate yesterday
got master in 3 tries
just play the scens i gave you
im convinced theres not really any better scens
actually i like air controlsphere on aimbeast but its whatever
you dont need to play that
aimbeast is hard asf
i might play benches next season
doubt it tho
cuz i only care about tracking
i will play tracking benches
cuz theyre gonna make viscose plaza a bench
Each scenario 5 times?
i mean its up to you
realistically
to reflect how good you actually are
you need to familiarize yourself with the scenario
so yeah
5 times for each doesnt sound bad
some people grind these things
for 1000s of runs
💀
idk, benchmarks are silly imo
cuz of that reason
this is a really good scen btw
for apex
i mean the whole ground plaza sparky v3 is
and viscose plaza is basically a copy of it
its much easier than smooth thin strafes
apac south 💀
did i get the region wrong
why is that the trend tho?
easier how
its easier to practice like reacting to directional changes ( assuming that the bot will go in a straight line)
that’s the point
direction changes in apex aren’t instant
if you know what you’re doing you can linger on the enemy as they change direction
this scen teaches you to not snap to target when it changes direction
but he smooth with it
be
pc is the only way a lot of europeans experience games
a lot higher than NA id say
yea mostly eastern europe
the other thing is like its like mostly arm aiming but thin strafes i reflexively will use wrist aim and my range of motion of my wrist will mess up the smoothness aspect of it like if it does a wider strafe
this makes sense
idk what to tell you, i stopped playing thin strafes a while ago and i’m better than ever at that kinda thing
not because it’s a bad scen
but there’s many ways to achieve the same thing ig
i just think this is a really good scen that teaches you good habits
ive been learning from its like not flicking to track and just like trying to match velocity
this isn’t a direction change but
the guy starts moving
and if you only played like
vt plaza intermediate
you’d snap to the right
to him
missing shots when he’s accelerating
cuz the acceleration on those scens is way too quick imo
but yeah idk if i believe in building bad habits necessarily
but you can certainly build good habits playing the right things
although i think a lot of my recent aim improvements just came from playing r5
in the end, everything teaches you something
i like r5 but i dont like not being able to quantify my ability( at this point bc of aim training i can be like oh this is where i didnt do something right and try to actively do it )
this was me 6 months ago :(
well you’re certainly much better now
found that rotational aim assist article that I was asking for earlier if anyone wants to take a gander : https://www.reddit.com/r/CompetitiveApex/comments/s8d0bp/comprehensive_breakdown_of_aim_assist_how_it/
Tldr; rotational aim assist is basically soft aimbot lmao
there’s a nice gif
that unfortunately wasn’t included in this post
showing rotational aim assist vs raw input and the delay caused by human reaction time when a target switches direction
i shoulda saved it
cuz i can’t find it anymore
also
i don’t understand why people think shotguns are better on mnk
for one thing
this exists
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aim assist snaps center of target if you’re aiming within a certain area on the enemy
and
not sure what specifically the 1.5 does but it probably just means that area is larger
so if you hipfire and then ads while being on target you will literally snap to center target which means you get more consistent shotgun pumps
and if you think shotgun aim is flicking then you’re simply aiming wrong
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interesting
I think inherently being able to peek with mnk + shotgun is good when you can't 100% track with car on roller
that 1.5 thing might make my gf mald if i tell her that
you can peek with roller just fine
i agree that
the disparity between roller and mnk shotgun aim is smaller
but it’s still there
rotational AA makes hitting any shots easier
just like the slowdown
yeah
it complete negates having to time when you click
cuz you literally slow down over the target
it’s so much easier
just in terms of ttk it's probably more effective for roller players to have ar+smg
at least until the update
i could see more roller players picking up shotguns
i wonder what people will say then
cuz a lot of people believe rollers are only OP cuz it’s not shotgun meta
what if they start shitting on people with pks
lol yeah
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