all mice should work
#apex
safe igloo
devout tusk
its still going to go back to them whether its their issue or now
safe igloo
you dont need for any mice that ik of either
devout tusk
not*
devout tusk
again its not the point whether you need it or not
;tech illiterates will complain that they cant do something
the whole point of consoles
is that they just work
closed environment
safe igloo
well it would just work
devout tusk
not from the user perspective if they want to use the mouse software
and are dumb
theres already millions of dumbass posts about stuff
it would just add way more
safe igloo
people that just want it to work
and see that it works
would not even want the software
they are already under the mentality "if it aint broke dont fix it"
they are not wrong in most cases
little verge
You won't stop stupid people even with a closed system anyways. You got people microwaving laptops and shit lol
safe igloo
^
a small amount of people complaining about software is def not the reason we dont have mnk on console
safe igloo
its more likely 1. lazyness 2. reaslizing how op .6 aa is against mnk.
devout tusk
and consoles already recognize mnk
safe igloo
the biggest casual game of them all supports mnk on console, being cod.
devout tusk
since forever or is that reccent
little verge
Yeah, it's always down to their bottom line. Notice how no indie or small dev teams utilize rotational in their games? Pretty much exclusive to Halo/CoD/Apex/BF at this stage.
safe igloo
since mw19
dull falcon
( ik improvement is linear) but sometimes i feel like i reach peak then i just regress for like a long time
devout tusk
what do you think im saying that console shouldnt have mnk??
devout tusk
im not making excuses
im just saying why its not a thing typically
"Always seems weird that you can't just plug in M&K into console" was commenting on this
dull falcon
and consoles already recognize mnk
it does but like at most u can do is just navigate thje main screen
little verge
Controller is for gaming, M&K is for typing essays about why rotational is ruining gaming.
devout tusk
lmao
dull falcon
i now want a vertical mouse
sand gyro
on this topic would people even play mnk on console they say they play at 30 fps lmao
without aim assist they would all just miss every shot
every fight
no one would kill no one
unborn token
great more beef im missing
carmine viper
Unpopular take but imo FPS games should only be played on MNK
unborn token
i agree 220% with that statement
either that or roller shitters dont get assisted nearly as much
unborn grotto
im trying to learn mantle jump rn and i wanted to see if anyone knows why my head always hits roof any thoughts
unborn token
im trying to learn mantle jump rn and i wanted to see if anyone knows why my hea...
if it hits the roof you are prob doing it wrong or smth
prob theres a vid on yt
unborn grotto
well ik that i wanted to see if anyone could narrow down what im doing wrong
unborn grotto
unborn grotto
i think i figured out what was happening think it was cause i was holding s too long and sometimes because i was doing too slow
young pine
No bs I'm pretty sure console kids are actively trying to join mnk lobbies. I've seen so many 2 console 1 pc teams tonight
safe igloo
Unpopular take but imo FPS games should only be played on MNK
gyro aim on controller
nintindo out here the only ones pushing it
and it works well
people just dont want to learn
only would work if it was forced
burnt oxide
Are there steroids for aiming
unborn token
young pine
people just dont want to learn
It's cause they're delusional. 99% of controller players think aim assist is basically nothing and it takes alot of skill. Can't begin to discuss a change until everyone sees through their bias
young pine
G fuel is generally pretty bad not sure about any new product in specific tho
young pine
"everyone complaining obviously hasn't played controller"
crazy how many times i see that, even tho most gamers grew up on consoles
burnt oxide
Why u don’t see people complain about aim assist in overwatch or CoD
It’s always apex
unborn token
bc cod is mostly roller players
gentle mantle
aim assist aint as good in ow
young pine
cod has always been a roller game, thats always been their stomping grounds so it makes sense. just like cs is to mnk
and OW theres no AA in crossplay
but theres COD pros complaining about AA. Scump hated how strong AA got towards the end of his career
lethal wraith
floral lodge
anyone wanna join for some ranked eu? d4 +
floral lodge
mr worldwide strafe
carmine viper
I somewhat did it to the Wraith
devout tusk
master this new movement tech
You have a tutorial?
floral lodge
so basically
as you can see in the demonstration above
controller is not so overpowered after all this highly efficient movement tech can be used to counter any controller player
but it may take a long time to master
floral lodge
it will be difficult at first keep grinding tho
devout tusk
💪
dull falcon
try 4-4 linear
unborn token
young pine
controller is not so overpowered after all this highly efficient movement tech c...
That's a bad solution because rollers can do advanced tech with configs. And it's alot smoother on roller
But it is funny lol
unborn token
its a joke
shrewd pollen
That guy was playing on 2-2 😂
teal moth
LF 1v1 apex
trail gyro
average ranked experience
pallid horizon
controller is not so overpowered after all this highly efficient movement tech c...
what exactly
if you play on a higher sens than 2-2 classic you can track them somewhat
torn oyster
When was this
floral lodge
its me btw bro not your alt
torn oyster
I noticed later after ping it wasnt. No capital letters.
scarlet crypt
average ranked experience
I need that pathfinder skin
magic holly
cod has always been a roller game, thats always been their stomping grounds so i...
not really, the OG cod competitive scene in the days of cod 4 was on PC with mnk
but no one on PC really cares about competitive cod so it's not really a big deal
magic holly
Why u don’t see people complain about aim assist in overwatch or CoD
OW doesn't even have AA on PC bozo
and cod isn't even a real e-sport so why would anyone care?
worldly sail
and cod isn't even a real e-sport so why would anyone care?
Even then cod comp is pretty much only roller these days
wintry cypress
🚶♂️
magic holly
Even then cod comp is pretty much *only* roller these days
it's not even "pretty much", mnk isn't even allowed
probably because slow movement and low ttk would make it so that mnk would actually beat roller
vague nexus
my luck is insane
Are the bundles in store?
floral lodge
yea
quaint karma
Pov, U are inconsistent.
first guy was basically standing still
echo inlet
got my first 4k after switching to hold aim. much better than toggle tbh
shrewd pollen
ive seen him on r5 i think
its very good on mnk
he was clapped me and im on roller XD
reef onyx
nimble stag
I can't believe recon legends are losing ring scan
vague nexus
is the aniversary event gonna be cheaper?
vagrant pelican
What were you doing trying to reset the scenario?
vagrant pelican
Because that is relatable and happens often.
vagrant pelican
Is that how many you need to buy a whole collection event without paying a dime?
shrewd pollen
bro who tf is bigchungusfan503<:ppangry:587186278878150656>
its a kid
i met too on voltaic 1v1
he was crying cuz he was losing against me ahaha
cringe kid
pallid horizon
welp
shrewd pollen
where u met?
shrewd pollen
lol
pallid horizon
i dont think it should cause a difference when you can press down on crouch till you touch the floor
worldly sail
i should practice apex for the next season but i also got skins in fortnite to grind :/
i should also aim train
pallid horizon
oh yeah actually there is noticable input lag difference between toggle and hold (i think)
worldly sail
not taking that as seriously but i'll consider it. i will always want variety somehow
worldly sail
nvm, i'm gonna do a bit of aim training, then apex (r5), then fortnite
gotta keep to a strict time as i got a phone appt tomorrow too
minor blaze
anyone in plat wanna team up? soloq is draining me
devout tusk
it holds crouch for you for a few secs for some reason if thats what you were thinking of
like your char is crouched in air for a bit even without it being pressed anymore
devout tusk
ohhh i do with hold and its fine ye
usually hold til i hit the grnd
yeah
i get you
like space then ctrl holding ctrl
i just slam them at the same time and it works more than it should
at least thats what it feels like, maybe my brain is actually trying to time it right and i dont realize
vague nexus
bro is that caustics or gibbys lips?
devout tusk
gibby wit dem dsls
wintry cypress
bro is that caustics or gibbys lips?
honestly looks like her own
wintry cypress
in that case i wana see
same
and yeah probably
tbh shed have to lift them in order to kiss em
vague nexus
need an sfm artist asap
quaint karma
carmine viper
bro is that caustics or gibbys lips?
Vantage's. So Loba a confirmed child molester
vague nexus
pred grindset
carmine viper
A big QOL change should allow people to auto close map when accessing inventory. The amount of times ive died to this bs lol
unborn token
boht?>?
do you do it manually?
how consistently
do you manualy glide
hm
i usually do it if im not thinking abt it idk
sometimes i get it everytime
some times not all
yeah i know you do
its good you even are manual only
oh it is
thats how i do it
floral lodge
Use scroll wheel and ctrl superior combo
floral lodge
I can still superglide tapstrafe manually on 240fps
quaint karma
only works against bad players
floral lodge
Not 100% of the time
floral lodge
The tapstrafe is the easiest part of the whole thing tho
quaint karma
you could also just shoot them
unborn token
properly
quaint karma
most of the time just shooting people
is better than doing anything else
in my experience
yeah mfs are gonna try and shoot you and just miss
and get confused
💀
thats mostly the only thing i use superglides for
covering distance
faster
devout tusk
supergliding straight at someone kinda bad
but
if youre just traversing good
i do like an S strafe out of superglide but always miss the shot 
floral lodge
In zip buildings I like to grab the ledge of the top floor and superglide sometimes that’s just cause I can’t mantle jump tho lol
devout tusk
you gotta hit the config bind then scroll tho its so awkward
like what if you decide not to go for it
what do you do
does that undo it
floral lodge
But if you can bind one button to have two functions can’t you bind one button to jump and crouch
devout tusk
ig yeah just scroll down anyway if you decide you dont wanna glide
floral lodge
I’ve always wondered that since they found super gliding
devout tusk
no the way superglide works zam
floral lodge
like scroll up to jump+crouch
devout tusk
you need to put
floral lodge
at the same time
devout tusk
crouch input on the frame after jump
no
next frame
so for example
if you are running 60fps
and you press with 4ms gap it might not work
cause it is probably the same frame
but on 240 it will work almost every time
cause frames are around 4ms
floral lodge
But if the way to do it is to hold jump and crouch together
devout tusk
its not
floral lodge
but that’s how I do it ?
floral lodge
With ctrl and mwheelup at the same time
devout tusk
yeah theres no way you are pressing a key and mouse wheeling up at the exact same time
floral lodge
Yeah so then if I could somehow bind mwheelup to jump+crouch it just wouldn’t work the same ?
floral lodge
yeah probably not the exact same time down to the millisecond
devout tusk
you need the 2nd input on the next frame
idk how else to say it
highest success rate at 60fps would be 17ms gap
floral lodge
Idk I found a way that works and that’s what I use normally
floral lodge
just always wondered why that isn’t possible but makes more sense now
devout tusk
your human body is having a gap
you dont realize
you just got the feel for it
but the pc knows exactly
also just if you know how computer programs and games work
theres no difference to the game if you press the keys with a gap but theyre still on the same frame
it treats it as you having pressed at the same time
im kinda talking in circles sorry, tired
wintry cypress
Vantage's. So Loba a confirmed child molester
but vantage is 18 
devout tusk
what are you lost on
low jump is from your character being tired
which is from jumping in the last 2 seconds
so if you just jump at a wall in that window youll hit the wall at wj height
then you can tapstrafe out of the wall jump to land closer to the wall and do it again
if you want more understanding its useful to know your wj bounce is based on the height your character hits the wall
slide jumping you dont jump as high as stand jumping so you hit the wall at the right height
low jump is basically the same height as a slide jump
masterpiece 4u
devout tusk
do you get it at least
also i had to learn mantle jumps on r5 i couldnt make it happen on that zip
i also lost the ability to mantle jump the next day
young pine
Monthly reminder than Armor+Helmets aren’t required to hit Master, you are just bad at the game
quaint karma
yeah you just have to be one of the best player sin the video game
who made #1 pred multiple times
not master in apex
you
your tracking on the valk looks shaky ngl
i thought you were new to teh game
cuz of
default r9 skin
sonic junco
p2w iron sights tho
devout tusk
i used the alchemist skin for so long the default irons arent that bad
theres much worse ones at least
still vine
Anyone wanna play in a private game ín apex I need 60 people if u do join code c1f2e139 let's get it goin also il like on twitch if wanna watch instead https://www.twitch.tv/thebyebyeman54 leave a follow let's have fun
young pine
yeah you just have to be one of the best player sin the video game
One of???? There's a very strong case for Watson being THE best fragger in the game
lapis moat
OK wattson is good but idk if I would say hes the best fragger in the world even without mentioning any rollers
carmine viper
not master in apex
DrDisrespect made masters last season.
torn oyster
had to re-activate fb to browse the market and found this old irrelevant gem.
carmine viper
In this game especially, not all Masters players are created equal
There are still huge skill gap disparities in that rank tier alone
torn oyster
hitting masters and climbing in masters are two different feats for sure.
young pine
DrDisrespect made masters last season.
Masters isnt that hard to get if you're decent, takes a fair amount of time and playing with a consistent stack
young pine
good players probably arent super sweatin it, so perhaps
bold swan
is the valentines mode kinda noob queue
the what now
young pine
apex tinder
near tangle
the what now
near tangle
good players probably arent super sweatin it, so perhaps
and im guessing there's couples where one of em doesnt play apex
steep citrus
Some gyro clips
bold swan
https://cdn.discordapp.com/attachments/889965004047138818/1072627746250965045/Ap...
wtf
im gonna get myself a duo then
dull falcon
is it me or are apex packs like so useless now you rarely get a legendary or epic
bold swan
is it me or are apex packs like so useless now you rarely get a legendary or epi...
i bought 10 packs ytd and got like 7-8 legendaries
3 of them are not skins tho
dull falcon
i got 15 and it was blues and white
carmine viper
Masters isnt that hard to get if you're decent, takes a fair amount of time and ...
Dr aint even an 1/8th decent
young pine
True but he played with a pred and a really good fps player so that definitely makes up for it
devout tusk
https://streamable.com/qx53n8 juicy frags feel so good
quaint bison
I have a question if someone could help:
-Should I play Koovak's on the same res I play apex in?
Does it affect my aim if I don't?
little verge
Resolution, sens, and FOV aren't necessary to duplicate in Kovaaks.
Barring performance issues, you should be fine.
unborn token
In this game especially, not all Masters players are created equal
Rank doesn't even matter at this pt
young pine
i cant wait for the class rework, first time ive been excited for apex in awhile. alot of scan crutches are gonna be exposed
sonic junco
they should really stop doing splits
i wanna see apex with a year long ranked season
and people actually stuck at the ranks they belong in
match quality is so shitty at every level of play because of horrendous matchmaking
alpine trail
that just wouldn’t work
unborn token
you still dont realise that the rank system is just time spent
having a year long season would be complete dogshit
pred cap would literally skyrocket
and the game would go to absolute fucking shit
open patrol
What are the preferred video-settings for Apex? (AA, Texture streaming budget, etc)
open patrol
Aight thanks
alpine trail
texture streaming can be set to high with no problems unless you have tin can pc
open patrol
I have a 5600 and 6600XT so should be fine I guess.
alpine trail
set csm_enabled to 0 in your video config to disable cascade shadow mapping for extra viability and little fps as well
open patrol
Thanks will do that
minor blaze
Question remains tho, as to what they could do to change the ranked system in a manner that would actually improve the mode long term. Like gauging skill in a BR seems like a really hard task in general
floral lodge
unborn token
🥶
floral lodge
and when anniversary event drops buying that
unborn token
So I actually go spend
floral lodge
copping wraith heirloom epsiode 2
floral lodge
nah bro I'm just rich arab oil pirate
floral lodge
<@1057377942994440292>
go vc
unborn token
@floral lodge
floral lodge
go
dull falcon
get better
lethal wraith
unborn token
Man arenas so hards man
SHIT MODE
unborn token
Im bronze and went against freaking masters
young pine
Question remains tho, as to what they could do to change the ranked system in a ...
Only reward 1st 2nd and 3rd place with rp and 1 kp = 1 rp regardless of placement. Stricter match making so lobbies are only within your rank. But people wouldn't be allowed to play ranked like pubs and everyone would cry
clever quartz
shrewd pollen
https://streamable.com/r52aux
what fov are u using?
quaint karma
https://streamable.com/r52aux
unequipping that flatline skin is instant aim buff
minor blaze
Only reward 1st 2nd and 3rd place with rp and 1 kp = 1 rp regardless of placemen...
That doesn't really sound like it factors rng at all in seems absurdly hostile towards anything that isn't a three stack or the mood is strictly solo. Like the amount of rng especially in early game should probably be considered no?
lethal wraith
it would have to be top10 minimum
it was kinda like in s12 which was pretty cool
no wait s11
that was really fun for competitive people but not
edgy crane
got the real pred stats
worldly sail
Everyone likes apex precisely because it's so hard
I've put off playing it for the longest time because it was BR and Arenas only
torn oyster
a very fun legend, fingers crossed the nerf isnt as bad as people claim it will be.
vague nexus
the lift will function more like a lift to hight, rather than a free beam with aim smoothing over a rock
torn oyster
yeah that i already know as per usual, nerfs get pushed early on occasion. its nothing new. but i wonder if its going to be modified or that bad.
sonic junco
ranked distribution shouldn't be a fucking wave
it's tough for a br but using elo as a means to not make uncapped pred go too crazy is possible in every other game
sonic junco
it's about as team reliant as any other game tho
stacks always have an advantage
soloq is like
whatever
torn oyster
it blows my mind how people complain about "three stacking pubs"
imagine having fun with friends.
torn oyster
thats the one thing i will not understand.
sonic junco
people want soloq but it would be just as toxic if not more toxic than any other game that has it
sonic junco
since apex is moving to 24h rotating splits i think having a longer season makes sense
blazing path
first guy was basically standing still
Thats the meaning behind jitter aiming, its really hard to track and dont miss a shot while jitter aiming
torn oyster
that move
sonic junco
rank decay should be introduced
torn oyster
is prob the biggest ranked W apex has had
torn oyster
think i got to gold before i got bored
games were still way to easy.
back on release
played for like a week on and off
sonic junco
never tried it but it seems whoever directed it cared way more
now it's shutting down with less than a year of service
torn oyster
the fact it exists was nice but honestly
nobody plays games like that on mobile
its mostly afk stuff
bold swan
nobody *plays* games like that on mobile
pubg mobile and freefire is insanely popular in asia countries
mostly curry munchers playing it
sonic junco
😭
minor blaze
Isn't the mobile market in Asia the highest grossing market in gaming overall?
minor blaze
Also imo respawn needs to level the playing field between solos and stacks. The fact a solo gets the same punishment for losing as a premade stack is insane
sonic junco
they made stacks have higher mmr
so they get harder lobbies
which is completely fair
bold swan
they should force 3 stacks to field out their card number and security code
worldly sail
I'd rather play dm really. Don't want building, CoD has a shit rep and has a content drought
sonic junco
dm is good for the game
people need a casual warmup mode
every other fps has one and more
worldly sail
People who don't main shooters like Apex because Respawn haven't been pieces of shit.
minor blaze
Well not really. And even so, having Comms is just a stupid advantage. Idk in EU everyone is a mute so playing against stacks is pretty fucking hard.
worldly sail
Whereas people avoid CoD like it were someone with a cough two years ago
sonic junco
people climb in masters with just pings
it's harder but idk
i dont think soloq is all that great or would change much
if anything people would communicate less with all the introverts it would attract
worldly sail
But EA and Respawn have shown they don't give a shit about it. Plus, it'd be full of those who hate Apex for the wrong reasons imo
The "apex is too woke" crowd would clamor over Titanfall
sonic junco
that "crowd" needs to get a grip on reality
worldly sail
It's not the game Russia reportedly wanted to ban
sonic marlin
Wtf we talking bout
bold swan
yo how is apex woke again what kinda shit people be on
worldly sail
that "crowd" needs to get a grip on reality
Yeah. Apex though has more rep than some Netflix shows, which is really appealing to some
minor blaze
U don't really seem to grasp the idea that not everyone can run stacked. And I am talking a solo pays less entry than stacks, not some in-game advantage. AFAIK that is pretty common idea no?
worldly sail
Considering I read people being angry about Warrior Nun being canceled after just one season
sonic marlin
yo how is apex woke again what kinda shit people be on
Jade go back to hiding in Val chat
sonic junco
they already outlined how stacks have a higher mmr by virtue of stacking
bold swan
Jade go back to hiding in Val chat
i spread covid in every chat hoe
sonic junco
lower entry cost is just an unnecessary advantage
sonic marlin
i spread covid in every chat hoe
Your a hoe
worldly sail
But I'm playing the game come Feb 14, but never BR. I'll play the side modes until I'm bored of Apex
lethal wraith
higher mmr by virtue of stacking doesn't mean anything if the pros outweigh the cons
sonic junco
that's what they do im not necessarily saying it's the best solution
i just fail to see what soloq or less entry costs brings to the table
bold swan
idk the point of higher mmr since diamond lobby has all the higher ranks
sonic marlin
idk the point of higher mmr since diamond lobby has all the higher ranks
Ain't it like 1am for you
lethal wraith
it lets players compete without needing two other players on an even playing field
sonic junco
there's still hidden mmr so not sure how that works
bold swan
Ain't it like 1am for you
ur mum is keeping me awake
minor blaze
Idk I might be biased because the amount of times I get my games griefed by randoms is pretty high, at least this split. I just think that soloqing is currently really really bad of an experience and I'd like it to be a more viable option.
lethal wraith
imagine if LoL mixed full teams against teams that are 2 duos and a solo
would be a fucking massacre
worldly sail
Each time I die I would like to forget about the previous match but the stats count it against you. BR doesn't make as much sense to me in a game that isn't even trying to be realistic - I'd argue CoD deserves BR more than Apex based on the realism aesthetic alone CoD wants to do
sonic junco
league solo/duo is already a miserable experience idk why any game would wanna replicate that
worldly sail
I want a run and gun shooter that isn't just CoD
lethal wraith
yeah but it's balanced for solo/duo
with only solo being available post master?
and high br rank basically doesn't exist
it's literally pred players running around farming lobbies
sonic junco
apex's realism is that it's a futuristic bloodsport lol
sonic marlin
Lmao
lethal wraith
you're either a full stack diamond master team, or a top 1% player that can solo to master
sonic marlin
Voltaic gamechats at it's finest never know wtf we talking bout
sonic junco
we just be talking
lethal wraith
hopefully stuff like realm will replace br rank
sonic junco
it's the passion
sonic junco
orgy anyone
minor blaze
sonic junco
u first
worldly sail
A run and gun shooter to me doesn't deserve to be limited to very few respawns per match.
bold swan
A run and gun shooter to me doesn't deserve to be limited to very few respawns p...
sounds like u dont like BR in general
apex is not the game for u then
sonic junco
what is worth complaining about is how many people die trying to play ranked like pubs
minor blaze
Apex gameplay is just awesome. The guns feel great, the fights feel nice and the movement/the game being super dynamic really adds to all of that
worldly sail
It's like single player but worse because at least you get to try again with an entire level until you complete it. BR is too punishing for me when I die. I want to dominate a lobby like it were 2009
bold swan
It's like single player but worse because at least you get to try again with an ...
u either have to get good enough to dominate lobbies or just stick to cod
sonic junco
then benchmark in ranked sporadically
quaint karma
waiting on apex legends 2
there wont be an apex legends 2
worldly sail
apex is not the game for u then
It isn't but I'm not a fan of the cod fanbase, I don't relate to the military shooter aesthetic and all other shooters want to be more like Arma or Apex with gameplay
sonic junco
they definitely could update the engine like fortnite did
bold swan
It isn't but I'm not a fan of the cod fanbase, I don't relate to the military sh...
thing is that run and gun shooters like cod arent really popular anymore since theres not much to it, tacfps is the new standard now
worldly sail
But BR will simply leave me sitting in menus or spectating for far longer than I can actually fight
If I didn't want to die without shooting very much I'd play survival games instead
sonic junco
i still don't know how anyone actually has fun playing tacfps after having a lick of apex
worldly sail
thing is that run and gun shooters like cod arent really popular anymore since t...
I'm born too late then
bold swan
i think if u get past that newbie wall then u might enjoy br more tbh, my friend hated apex at first but bro got addicted once he got better
sonic junco
dam
worldly sail
There's no may I'd be able to remove any stats that would remind me of how much I sucked because I died early
sonic junco
why do you care about stats so much
bold swan
i still don't know how anyone actually has fun playing tacfps after having a lic...
games like valorant are more friendly to new players, apex is more mechanics savvy
sonic junco
The best players have good stats because they're good, not the other way around
sonic marlin
why do you care about stats so much
Fuck stats just have fun
sonic junco
exactly
worldly sail
Well kdr particularly is a measure of how effective you are at fighting and surviving. If it's less than 1 I'm cannon fodder like those guys who died at Normandy
worldly sail
But honestly there's no game like apex by another studio as good as Respawn. ActiBlizz and Riot are assholes
bold swan
Well kdr particularly is a measure of how effective you are at fighting and surv...
dont get too obsessed about stats unless u are obsessed about being good
worldly sail
But I hate I'm not even good at anything. I can't even get a tactical nuke at CoD
bold swan
i think riot is a pretty solid company
worldly sail
and I'm 25 with work issues
sonic junco
solid at monetizing gamers
bold swan
solid at monetizing gamers
at least they make shit worth it lol, if we take a look at ow2
worldly sail
i think riot is a pretty solid company
Their games are infamous for having toxicity in it, one of the devs made a terrible comment and there's a specific reason I won't play Val
sonic junco
respawn ain't great at monetizing either
bold swan
the game has fuck ton of toxicity bc of how big their playerbase is
- the nature of league is just toxicity so
sonic junco
a la 160 recolor
valve and riot pretty much
in terms of actually supporting their games
bold swan
imo the only companies that are morally better are just indie companies
sonic junco
and fostering competition
bold swan
but then again if its indie its prolly not even a company
minor blaze
Roit did a stellar job with cultivating Val as a CS competition
worldly sail
but honestly I don't like that deaths end matches, that should be reserved more for "realistic" games. I want as much chances as I can to top frag. I don't want to feel like the VC in a Rambo movie
I only play Team Rumble and Creative, and I don't really want to build
unborn token
but honestly I don't like that deaths end matches, that should be reserved more ...
??????
unborn token
i think riot is a pretty solid company
they kinda are
but also absolute clowns when it comes to handling game experience
bold swan
Roit did a stellar job with cultivating Val as a CS competition
they got more than enough fame so yea
worldly sail
The streamer communities I like generally aren't even into shooters and the only one they like that's big is Apex
bold swan
but also absolute clowns when it comes to handling game experience
playerbase is just too big they prolly clueless as fuck
unborn token
playerbase is just too big they prolly clueless as fuck
mostly
but its an absolute joke
sonic junco
but honestly I don't like that deaths end matches, that should be reserved more ...
maybe you just don't enjoy BR and that's fine but getting caught up in stats that frankly don't matter especially when you're just getting into the game is asinine
unborn token
someone can grief throw your game and hold you hostage in both val or league
and they dont get even warned but you do
get banne
d
for being mad
minor blaze
Does really anyone care about apex stats? Wrote that off basically immediately just because hotdropping ruins them and doesn't represent shit for skill
worldly sail
??????
In CoD, before it embraced being "realistic", you respawn shortly after dying every time until a win condition by yourself, your team or another player/team meets it
bold swan
someone can grief throw your game and hold you hostage in both val or league
isnt that just every competitive games
sonic junco
i have 600~ hours playing apex and i still feel like a beginner in apex at times
it's just part of the process
worldly sail
In BR, the game's lost quickly if you die and you have to forget about it but the stats and other players count it against you. If I wanted death to be such a high risk I'd play Arma or a survival game
minor blaze
i have 600~ hours playing apex and i still feel like a beginner in apex at times
Same here basically
bold swan
In BR, the game's lost quickly if you die and you have to forget about it but th...
just
sonic junco
it's a survival game
bold swan
dont think about stats
minor blaze
You seem to make dying in apex a way better deal than it is tbh
sonic junco
dying in apex ends the game then you just q again
worldly sail
maybe you just don't enjoy BR and that's fine but getting caught up in stats tha...
There's just almost no alternatives really and shooters are the only games I enjoy. Just not BR shooters, except like Warzone Resurgence
sonic junco
stop caring about stats until you're good enough
worldly sail
dying in apex ends the game then you just q again
But I'd rather a time limit ended the game, really
unborn token
isnt that just every competitive games
even worse there
sonic junco
my stats are dogshit but theyve steadily improved as my hours have gone up
unborn token
In CoD, before it embraced being "realistic", you respawn shortly after dying ev...
it is not realistic
lmfao
worldly sail
stop caring about stats until you're good enough
Dying early is humiliating and if I wanted to avoid fights I wouldn't play a shooter
unborn token
the only realistic shooter is tarkov
sonic junco
nobody told you to avoid fights???
worldly sail
the only realistic shooter is tarkov
I wouldn't want to play that but it deserves its gameplay loop
bold swan
even worse there
moba game is essentially a cesspool anyway, u will get buttfucked if the teammates fuck up the lane
unborn token
dont know why people obsess so much abt stats
unborn token
moba game is essentially a cesspool anyway, u will get buttfucked if the teammat...
nah league you can 1v9
sonic junco
just kill the enemy and stats won't matter
unborn token
but mostly
minor blaze
How is it humiliating even decent players can just die early due to rng, it really doesn't matter, especially in Pubs
worldly sail
nobody told you to avoid fights???
Yeah, but if getting into fights is so unviable early match, then it's not worth it for me to play it as a shooter
bold swan
but yea league and val players generally have such weak mental
csgo u see strong russian men fighting for their country even if its 2-14
worldly sail
How is it humiliating even decent players can just die early due to rng, it real...
If they die a lot early, they could be unlucky but skilled players can mitigate it somewhat
sonic junco
there's a strategic element to winning a fight on drop, finding optimal rotations, and then securing a place in zone
i think you're just stuck not knowing how the game can be played
minor blaze
Yeah but that also indicates adjusting expectations. Starting a game, especially an FPS means, your first couple hundreds hours consist of biting the dust A LOt. Especially if you have no FPS experience before hand
worldly sail
Yeah but I'd like to win as much as possible. I already feel shit for not being good at anything. Also, dying with no respawns reminds me of titles that want to be realistic
bold swan
If they die a lot early, they could be unlucky but skilled players can mitigate ...
90% of pub players play for the sake of shooting people and shit instead of winning anyway, if u die u go next
sonic junco
every fight is viable if you create the advantage though strategy or mechanical skill
you can get respawned at beacons when your teammate retrieves your banner
worldly sail
Yeah but that also indicates adjusting expectations. Starting a game, especially...
Before BR I'd die a lot but I'd have a chance to make up for those deaths. With BR I'd have to make up for each match I died, which is over a longer time scale. I don't have the patience for such a gameplay loop even with all the time in the world.
bold swan
you can get respawned at beacons when your teammate retrieves your banner
nah fuck the randoms u go next if u get knocked
play wraith too
sonic junco
lol
worldly sail
you can get respawned at beacons when your teammate retrieves your banner
I'm more a soloist. Teamwork is still work to me as long as I have on social life
bold swan
Before BR I'd die a lot but I'd have a chance to make up for those deaths. With ...
apex is not it then
unborn token
but yea league and val players generally have such weak mental
nah
playing league?????
on high elo
sonic junco
if you care that much about stats then idk what to tell you
minor blaze
Idk how you expect to find a solution to your problem then while maintaining the status quo.
unborn token
your mental is fucking massive
sonic junco
i care about gameplay personally
unborn token
its actually dogshit
worldly sail
apex is not it then
But there's next to no alternatives. Most other games are dead or don't have very good reputations/representation. I only have like Fortnite and D2 which I like atm
unborn token
stats are useless
minor blaze
Like you seem to expect a lot more from the game than youd actually get for what you are doing for it. So either change your approach or don't play it.
bold swan
your mental is fucking massive
or u are just so mentally fucked its getting numb and u lose the sense of time while sitting in a corner having empty feelings and empty thoughts about how obscure ur future will be
not me tho im happy ahaha
worldly sail
I don't know any streamers whom I wouldn't envy, find offensive or find hard to relate to that plays D2
bold swan
huh
minor blaze
D2 went down the hill hard PvP wise the last half year, hence why I quit it basically
worldly sail
Like you seem to expect a lot more from the game than youd actually get for what...
If no studio with a good reputation can and will make a game that will exceed Apex's player count, I have no choice but to get in with Apex, especially now with the new side modes
bold swan
if u want then u could just play titanfall 2 northstar
worldly sail
D2 went down the hill hard PvP wise the last half year, hence why I quit it basi...
There's pve but I've been so behind on the lore I don't want to bother much
unborn token
or u are just so mentally fucked its getting numb and u lose the sense of time w...
ik
worldly sail
if u want then u could just play titanfall 2 northstar
I need new content. Should teach myself to mod that game
worldly sail
And I risk my EA account getting banned for streaming Northstar
bold swan
And I risk my EA account getting banned for streaming Northstar
just make an alt if u dont want to play on main
worldly sail
EA and Respawn may be pissed I'm playing something "unauthorized". I want to still be able to play The Sims 4,that's why I care
bold swan
make an alt dawg
minor blaze
Is north star decently populated? Server Browser doesnt seem to exceed 150 players
worldly sail
just make an alt if u dont want to play on main
I should, will need to buy another tf2 copy. Should make another streaming account too I guess
unborn token
EA and Respawn may be pissed I'm playing something "unauthorized". I want to sti...
tf
sonic junco
and migrate your save
worldly sail
the sims 4 is free on steam
I already have it, I intend to stream that too
sonic junco
im your sleep paralysis demon
minor blaze
sonic junco
which neck
bold swan
im your sleep paralysis demon
brother u gonna be my sleep paralysis groomer once u take a look at this cake dawg
jk
worldly sail
EA could suspend my account so I won't be able to play The Sims 4,and they could find out if I stream both my main and alt EA accounts under one Twitch account - literally that's why I refuse to stream Northstar or R5
sonic junco
i just expect gamers to not be 15 anymore
bold swan
ive never seen anyone getting banned from it either
bold swan
i just expect gamers to not be 15 anymore
who are u implying
worldly sail
i play northstar on my main
So do I but I haven't streamed the game yet. An EA employee could be watching in that case. I hope nothing happens but I do need to prepare just in case
bold swan
So do I but I haven't streamed the game yet. An EA employee could be watching in...
an EA employee bro 😭
worldly sail
The only thing keeping tf2 alive are modders. BR hype, those who want representation in their media and those who want a good studio without bullshit scandals surrounding them over work conditions and toxicity are what's keeping apex alive as well as money. What's keeping other games alive is just money.
lethal wraith
https://twitter.com/hollowFPS/status/1623350902148177921?t=P_VVT3VUcHPi_L0xdIILF...
also here
worldly sail
But it's why communities I've been part of won't play fortnite or overwatch
lethal wraith
not in comp no, but yes in rank
lethal wraith
car will still most likely be the go-to smg
bold swan
forever a car pk brawler
sonic junco
and 1 less bullet per mag
lethal wraith
I think that's fair, but I have a feeling that it's not enough recoil still
)
will have to check it out but yeah
sonic junco
step in the right direction
lethal wraith
Respawn doesn't have the best track record for gun balance changes
like what was the prowler buff
sonic junco
nemesis is going to be overtuned on release i can feel it
prowler is
very strange at certain hp thresholds
lethal wraith
sure, but that's not everything
also iirc it had the fastest dps for headshots only even before buff
worldly sail
I should try to grow my own community but I'm not very... amicable. I'm just sick and tired of feeling either envious of others (I still feel this way) or unable to relate to what games they like.
lethal wraith
nemesis is going to be overtuned on release i can feel it
I mean that's kind of their general idea for weapons tho
they want people to use the gun then they bring it in line
sonic junco
yeah
worldly sail
I'm glad I don't even want to play the new Hogwarts game because that's a whole stinking pile of shit in itself
sonic junco
bow on release went crazy
sonic junco
good eep to u
violet sentinel
anyone here use apex pro TKL?
worldly sail
i'm still gonna play tdm on apex when it comes out but it's a shame i'd only have like cod, fortnite or d2 to turn to
sonic junco
such is the state of gaming
worldly sail
yeah :/
i only have respawn's star wars souls-like to look forward to otherwise
only souls-like game that's big is elden ring but i don't really want to play it because of the medieval european aesthetic, which i'm not a fan of. i like souls-likes but i seem to like fps far more
fringe girder
gentle mantle
what did they change
scarlet crypt
It’s twice as fast and twice as long
sonic junco
wraith mains rise up
teal moth
I mean i feel like her ult will still be weak.
You can shut it down so easily now, kidnaps will go crazy but that's about it.
Her Q takes too long to toggle most of the time, so you can't like do hyper aggro shit
lethal wraith
I mean it's going to best safest rotating tool now
lethal wraith
honestly if they released old wraith now, no one would bat an eye
teal moth
And just kill people in zone.
teal moth
Nah fk those two lamo.
The balance team on apex is insane tho.
Like these people know what their doing, i've never seen such a good balance team from a game.
lethal wraith
tbh I still think Valk will be a must
teal moth
They do slow but calculated changes .
lethal wraith
very very slow
teal moth
Valk isn't a must rn tho.
lethal wraith
I would say pathfinder still hasn't gotten up
teal moth
I'm playing blood bang horizon 💀
teal moth
very very slow
Yeah, buuut they are good and create intresting metas.
Like next season is gonna be so fun for comp.
lethal wraith
didn't all top teams in lan run valk?
teal moth
So many comps are viable, depends on your teams style.
Idk, but you're not playing in a tourney with top 40 ppl
in the world
lethal wraith
I mean you said comp
teal moth
There's multiple layers to comp.
lethal wraith
oh for comp
like team composition?
I mean you either say comp or rank
at least that's how I understand it
teal moth
Like tournaments
Like sure at the tippity top level with the best 40 teams in the enitre world
Valk is probably a must have
teal moth
But if you're tier 2-3 playing in PLQ
you dont need valk
And you gotta remember you get no beacon scan on VALK
torn oyster
blind dating in apex duos is mid.
teal moth
So you can't play hybrid with valk anymore.
lethal wraith
yeah you're right about the beacon kinda forgot about that
but you're going to be running a defense legend anyway most likely
teal moth
You have to choose either go zone with wattson / catalyst + valk
Or play hard edge
Yeah, but if everyones running a beacon legend and going hardzone
then i just play valkless comp and cut ppl on rotates.
There's only so much space.
teal moth
Controller is definitly a little bit nutty if you're a good edge team.
sonic junco
if you just know where people are and can justify the cost/benefit
teal moth
You can cut ppl off on rotates so much easier you have perfect info.
sonic junco
but yeah ring location is always huge
teal moth
It is, but you can play without is what im saying.
Like i'm playing blood bang horizon and half the time we dont even scan beacon.
teal moth
You fight for your rotates before the game starts and after
lethal wraith
I feel like 1 support legend will be a must
teal moth
why tho
lethal wraith
the ability to get banners that are expired is like a 2nd chance at life
and it's not like these legends are weak either
teal moth
Just dont die lol
lethal wraith
like Loba for example, a ton of people run her
lethal wraith
I don't think it's just about not dying, I'm not sure how much you lose by playing one legend over the other
teal moth
I mean if i see a loba wattson valk team and im with my killer catalyst fuse maggie comp
I'm gonna suffocate them, they can't fight back
Anyways, basically i love the balance team for apex.
They allways find the most intresting changes. i kinda wish they hit seer a bit harder and made his ult 20 instead of 25
lethal wraith
we will see I guess, I recon Valk + Support + Controller will be a popular lineup
just play rev to counter seer
teal moth
Mirage to counter seer 💀
lethal wraith
Skirmisher class seems horrible though
teal moth
ranked is gonna be bang blood lmao
lethal wraith
yeah I mean that's what pros do 24/7
teal moth
yeah it's so useless
lethal wraith
if you look at their stream it's usually like 17 kills 8 assists
apparently though it's going to be ok for pathfinder at least
teal moth
Bang blood not nerfed for this patch
lethal wraith
spotting a care package falling will give you your ult
teal moth
they buffed BH acctualy 💀
lethal wraith
lmfao
teal moth
that's so useles
lethal wraith
yeah I thought they were going to add the scan thing?
teal moth
yeah like revert the scan
lethal wraith
to be fair it's 2x the range and 600->1000 speed
teal moth
now everyone is gonna be a bang blood team
lethal wraith
also Fuse probably the biggest winner honestly
less ammo slots needed = more nade slots
teal moth
What class is he
lethal wraith
double that
teal moth
assault?
lethal wraith
yeah
teal moth
holy fk
i mean
i'm either gonna play fuse catalyst maggie and do zone
to kill zone teams
or stay edge with blood bang and whatever else fits
lethal wraith
Valk is a skirmisher now
from best passive to worst
just give skirmishers horizon passive and give her a new passive
would be imbalanced but fuck it
burnt oxide
Drop ur playlist
whole forge
anything from these https://docs.google.com/document/d/1wTzR9rPzS9QbA3lCxutHNk9wmSfSxV3F-PIE50kexZs/edit
just play what i feel like
or want to improve
flint grotto
Woah wtf those tracking scenarios are goated
whole forge
How often do you play click scens
pretty often because i play other games outside of apex you dont really have to do clicking as much as tracking or target switching if you only play apex
burnt oxide
Nice
unborn token
🥶
quaint karma
i think you got a long way to go
until youre fragging out
realistically just plug in the roller
and get instant better mechanics
burnt oxide
Ur in endless war with rollers
blazing path
and get instant better mechanics
Wouldnt say better mechanics, Better aim yes obviously, But better mechanics nah. On roller u have so much less to think about thats why its so easy nU
unborn token
Wouldnt say better mechanics, Better aim yes obviously, But better mechanics nah...
?!?@?!?!?!/
unborn token
Wouldnt say better mechanics, Better aim yes obviously, But better mechanics nah...
thats literally all you need
just swing some guy and hit him for 220
for free
with minimal effort
blazing path
Aiming is not a mechanic its a ability u can, Convert to smoother and a better fps experience.
Roller players are just average andys
It gets recnogized much cuz alot of people play on it not skillbased at all.
But anyways nerf aim assist
U guys think it worked??
worldly sail
and get instant better mechanics
yeah. i'm never touching br so i won't inconvenience them but it's a shame this is the only game people actually want to play/think is good
i have an interview tomorrow but i don't want to sleep yet
worldly sail
just doing a few more of r5 then i might
quaint karma
Aiming is not a mechanic its a ability u can, Convert to smoother and a better f...
honestly
i hvae no idea what youre saying
pallid horizon
Because its nonsense
What he said doesnt make any sense
He tried to write something and he didnt make it😔
worldly sail
am i right in saying that aim assist is even stronger in the main game than it is in r5? trying controller in r5 and i still somehow suck, but my hit ratio is a bit better on roller
pallid horizon
Controller is Just better for every player, unless you dedicated a certain amount of time to playing On a keyboard and mouse
So if you are starting out i would reccomend picking controller
floral lodge
faide at home
pallid horizon
😱
worldly sail
i've played nearly every fps with just mnk for several years now
if apex is my first pc fps game that i have to play roller on just to be good at tdm, then so be it i guess
pallid horizon
That would be a better choice, if they ever nerf aim assist (very unlikely) you have starting ground for that input
worldly sail
just hate i'm not good at anything that few are gooda t
unborn token
I JITTER SOME APE
FOR 160
ACROSS THE MAP
AND I TURN OFF SHADOW PLAY INSTEAD OF CLIPING
FUCK
MYT
FUCKING
LIFE
DUDE
unborn token
i've played nearly every fps with just mnk for several years now
id assume you are joking
or
placid root
i've played nearly every fps with just mnk for several years now
I doubt, honestly 