idk
#apex
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tepid salmon
Oh lmfao
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probably like gm nova reactivity tho in terms of ability
tepid salmon
You still aimtrain tho? Or what?
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but i also havent really played those either
so its just a guess
based of how i do and how i do compared to gms and shit on my friendlist
on random scens
yeah
tepid salmon
Ahh icic
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dull falcon
i need to work on strafing but its like meh
tepid salmon
😭 nah that was dirty
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all your strafes were long strafes
they were really easy to hit most of the time
only reason i missed sometimes is cuz short strafes throw off your aim
like my own
💀
dull falcon
but then like you short strafe against roller its like wow
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yeah but your strafes are way too regular
tepid salmon
Kinda weird to switch from long strafes against roller to short strafes against mnk tho imo
dull falcon
and super long
i think i use my strafe to adjust my aim some times
tepid salmon
You don't mind having damage feedback on?
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this strafe was way too long
dull falcon
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You don't mind having damage feedback on?
i mean i have to have it on in some form, no?
like i could turn it off
but its helpful in knowing that youre being shot ig
idk
dull falcon
https://outplayed.tv/media/wRgorl
where i got sent flying
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where i got sent flying
oh thats how it looks
i can see the low sens
looks almost like roller
then again
never realized
theres like 500 of them
tepid salmon
i mean i have to have it on in some form, no?
Well its kind of weird for me, sometimes they just dont dissapear so its like mega cluttery, but it does seem useful other than that
dull falcon
3d one is better than 2d
devout tusk
Not normally...
dull falcon
when u get shot from diff angles its actually in the way
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what does 2d look like
tepid salmon
Or the other way arouns
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maybe ill turn the arrows off
devout tusk
3d is arrows
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seems like way too much visual clutter
i never noticed tbh
apex forces you to see through it
astral pebble
reported for hacking
devout tusk
I like the arrows. Its the one clutter thing i can filter out
tepid salmon
I wonder when they're gonna fix clutter 
devout tusk
Its better clutter wise but since its different i get distracted when i try it
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right after they nerf aim assist
tepid salmon
right after they nerf aim assist
Will that be after they improve servers?
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ive actually been thinking lately that they might nerf it
devout tusk
Like ayo what are these curves on my screen
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idk why
but its getting out of hand and literally everyone and their mother is complaining now
tepid salmon
I honestly wish I could just play the game without 50 packet loss every 2 games
Like its either switch isp or stop playing apex every 2 games 
devout tusk
Does it fr
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yes
tepid salmon
But vpn costs money Sadge
devout tusk
Which vpn
dull falcon
nord vpn sponsorship type beat
dull falcon
its a subscription or is it lifetime?
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its cuz the routing to servers on vpn is different
no you can buy like 3 years at a time
devout tusk
Yeah and you can be "closer"
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mine is on until 2026 i think
dull falcon
how much
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200 for like 7 years is what i paid
exitlag also works
but
its like the same price
and you dont get a full fledged vpn
tepid salmon
Like 80% of the reason i havent played recently is that
I thought it was only happening for people with telekom, weird
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so i dont see the point
tepid salmon
How does respawn fuck up so much shit
tepid salmon
I mean apparently its just cause its a bit more expensive for respawn/ea but idk still frustrating
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i didnt look too much into it but what i read is that its cuz telekom lacks sufficient peering or something
whatever that means
tepid salmon
Hmm alright, yeah I guess it might be that then
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couldnt be bothered to actually find out what peering is
i assume its something to do with the routing
tepid salmon
Still stupid asf
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tho
tepid salmon
Yeah I think its something with the routing from what I read about it
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and this problem is also not exclusive to apex
apparently you can get it with other things
cant say ive noticed tho
vpn works wonders tho
and my ping is essentially the same
tepid salmon
Hmm maybe ill just get it
Wait, do you know if nordvpn also works with netflix n shit? 💀
May aswell get one that allows me to watch non germany exclusives
dull falcon
i need some scens for micro tracking
tepid salmon
Micro tracking?
dull falcon
what i mean to say is micro adjustments
tepid salmon
Ah alright
tepid salmon
Wait im confused now 💀
quaint karma
no it only works with US netflix
so like ig it does
but no other countries
at least last i tried
which was a while ago
tepid salmon
but like tracking wise
Reactive?
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at this point i think
tepid salmon
but no other countries
Ah alright, yeah I guess its fine tho
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just play whatever you want on kovaaks as long as its hard enough]
and refine your apex specific aim on r5
and 1v1s
no better practice than actually shooting at apex targets
and the way they move
and force you to microadjust
dull falcon
this one was pretty bad
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r5 taught me to just aim center mass if someone strafes like that
tepid salmon
I get kicked alot tho cause of some weird bug and im too lazy to look at a fix
tepid salmon
And I wish I could say that I like the tdm, but there are too many noregs for me to actually like it lmao
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also seeing that
tepid salmon
this one was pretty bad
https://outplayed.tv/media/Y7vXOm
Why is the muzzle flash so bright wtf
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i think the arrows are better
cuz theyre usually not that high up
like damn
why is that shape so high up
but at the same time
i think i might be fine without any of it
idk tho
tepid salmon
Yeah its kind of an indicator too I guess
tepid salmon
Well yeah I agree but still
I think its probably cause he was trying to just spray and pray there
Cause not being smooth makes clutter worse aswell imo
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oh yeah
insanely
thats another reason roller is easier
they literally cant not be smooth
tepid salmon
I mean, I don think they really mind visual clutter lol
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yeah but sometimes on mnk it gets hard to aim if youre just like jittering back and forth
and a lot of mnk players aim is very shaky
even if youre really good at it
you cant be as smooth as roller
tepid salmon
Ob yeah I see what you mean nvm
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im wondering now\
if i rely on those indicators to know where im being shot from
cuz if not ill jsut then them off
wtf
turn*
tepid salmon
Try it out I guess
I think they can help if there isnt audio I guess?
But usually you'll atleast hear something (hopefully) so I don't even know if thats a valid reason to turn it on
I wonder when they'll be forced to actually do something
tepid salmon
Didnt they promise mm changes aswell again?
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it already happened
tepid salmon
Did they?
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yeah it was changed mid december
tepid salmon
I thought people were talking about it, but it wasnt actually official
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people say its better now if you play with others and it wont just match you via the mmr of the highest skill player
and it does seem easier to soloQ pubs as well imo
tepid salmon
So its more like speculation instead of them actually putting out patchnotes for it?
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cuz my team isnt balanced through my mmr
well they said theyd do it mid december and then like
people wouldnt stop talking about it one day
so ig it did happen
tepid salmon
cuz my team isnt balanced through my mmr
You mean solo fill?
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yes
i was in vc with people and they were like wow matchmaking changed
and then i saw it everywhere else too
idk i doubt everyone would actually attribute something positive to respawn
for no good reason
ngl
even if respawn said they made the audio better
people would normally be like
nah audio is worse now
so if people say matchmaking is better
i assume it actually is
tepid salmon
Hmm I did hear it in a stream but it seemd more like "oh this seems better for once" not like it was actually fixed
Well idk, audio I do get in a way but its still stupid
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oh you cant turn incoming damage feedback off
tepid salmon
I think its cause of the engine, which only allows so many sounds to be played, but even then they did some stupid shit
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so ig 3d is just the best option
tepid salmon
Oh, is it either 2d/3d or both?
tepid salmon
I think its cause of the engine, which only allows so many sounds to be played, ...
I wonder if healing sounds still play throughout the whole map tho
tepid salmon
Nvm its old
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he died again
i thought streaming was his job
but then
considering how little he streamed even when he did
probably not
he could certainly make it into his job tho
tepid salmon
Hmm maybe its just cause of holidays rn
tepid salmon
I mean he gets clips like every game, some people would probably pay to see him stream daily lol
Wait what sens is he on?
tepid salmon
Looks so much faster than thst
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i wonder how he got so good
cuz its weird for an mnk player to play console for years
but after he had switched over his first clips are already of him being cracked as fuck
so he must have extensive experience from somewhere
tepid salmon
Probably just play a shit ton I guess
Well I don't know
He's a surgeon, thats where his mouse control comes from
Surely
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the goal is to aim like him
one day
maybe in another year
🥹
but ill have made it then
tepid salmon
How old is he?
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and in like a 3 year old video if his he was definitely over 18
cuz you can see him smoking
and idk it just seems like
he lives by himself
and this is his home where he can do whatever he likes
yk
tepid salmon
Yeah I get you
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cuz no 16 year old is smoking in their bedroom
i asked in his chat once and someone said 24
but yeah my assumption was that he was young af too
tepid salmon
Im looking for his first mnk vid rn
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but you can still get really good if youre older
if you put in the time
otherwise i might as well just give up
tepid salmon
but yeah my assumption was that he was young af too
Yeah, I thought it was gonna be some 14 year old that has been playing since he's been 4
Yeah, I think theres no time limit for it
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i mean if youre 40 i think it might take an unreasonable amount of time
who knows tho
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but i also think
if the skill is already there
it wont really degrade much
if you just keep practicing
you can be like 50 and still shit on kids
💀
tepid salmon
Chensou the type of guy that makes me want to turn insane at games and then start streaming full time 💀
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looking at chatgpt made me think a lot of things we take for granted rn are gonna be automated away
tepid salmon
Yeah I think there actually isnt a limit, obviously you'll learn slower than a 14 year old but it'll be fine
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most office jobs
which includes my job
so maybe being a streamer is the way 💀 💀
sure theyll still need software engineers but now theyll need like 2 instead of the 20 they got on staff
tepid salmon
Its kinda frustrating with how limited we get as we age tho
tepid salmon
You're right aswell lmao
Boutta go get my life together just to play apex as my 9-5 🥶
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ive unironically been thinking maybe i should try to start apex coaching or some shit
no AI is gonna be your apex coach
tepid salmon
I mean you're good from what I'be seen, but its kinda hard to start off
Maybe try streaming first
Build brand
Then get to the point where you scam your viewers
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like hiswattson
100 per hour for coaching
but then he makes more than that just streaming
so ofc itd be 100 per hour
tepid salmon
Honestly thats fine tho
tepid salmon
This one league player takes like 500 I think lmfao
tepid salmon
Alot of streamers do that shit tho
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yeah i saw wrthcrw also coaches now
tepid salmon
Not sure if that was troll tho
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but you have to know what to put the time into tho
tbh
its not THAT hard to figure out tho
plenty of free resources
but ig its like that with everything
sonic marlin
This one league player takes like 500 I think lmfao
You talking bout Neace or whatever his name is?
tepid salmon
Not sure what his name is
sonic marlin
The dude that says he reached challenger but didn't
tepid salmon
My friends play league and occasionally screenshare the videos they watch, and it was someone coaching for a shit ton of money for a single session
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crazy things
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wym
oh
idc abotu that
i havent plyaed static since i chocked my master run in may
choked
tepid salmon
But I literally just cant focus halfway any time I try static lmfao
Probably is cause of my adhd tho
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i think playing anything but tracking is largely not that helpful
for apex
sure you can do it but
sonic marlin
This dude I'm on about
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devoting too muich time to it wont get you far
tepid salmon
This dude I'm on about
Yeah I think so
Well I want to improve my general aim, and thats why Im trying to fix my staic but its fine I guess
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KovaaKsCrossfiringRangedDoghouse
this is my 2h playlist for apex
hvaent played it lately cuz its hella exhausting
but maybe youll see a scen you like
sonic marlin
Yeah I think so
Ye lol he made 700k in 1 year apparently
tepid salmon
Its just an insane difference in skill, always have been like 2-3 ranks under with static
tepid salmon
KovaaKsCrossfiringRangedDoghouse
Alright, thank you ^^
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i grinded to like diamond static when i played val
or liek beyond diamond but
benchmark says im diamond
like i said i choked a master run
and never played again
cuz i didnt play val anymore anyways
coarse wadi
tepid salmon
Yeah its the same for me basically now, my gf only plays val, and I feel so shit in it so I wanted to improve, but its very exhausting
tepid salmon
Lmfao
Yeah same
I like csgo, val is meh tho
Only game I could call my type of game rn is probably apex or ow, but both could be alot more enjoyable
Ow is in shit state balance wise, and apex is just apex ig
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dont like ow
dont feel like i can have as much impact
tbh
idk it just feels different
tepid salmon
I feel you, it depends tho
Its like, you cant really do much alone most of the times, but when you do its satisfying enough to keep you playing
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i played it on release for a bit
but
idk why
apex is the only game i have ever been this into
like by far
i didnt even play anything for a couple years until i played apex
other than agario clones
tepid salmon
like by far
I wish they'd just fix it for once, then I'd be on apex 24/7
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i cant say i have many issues other than controller just being hella strong
you gotta be more than twice the player of a lot of roller players
to beat them
tepid salmon
I wish they'd just fix it for once, then I'd be on apex 24/7
Actually idk, probably would get boring cause of only soloqing aswell
tepid salmon
i cant say i have many issues other than controller just being hella strong
I mean, I think audio is inconvenient at times, but its not like awful 24/7
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yeah no audio is fine most of the time
tepid salmon
But visual clutter could use work imo
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and sometimes itll fuck up in crucial situations
it be that way ig
but its not as big of an issue as people make it out to be
i dont die to no audio constantly
tepid salmon
just be social ig
Well, all the people in my friend group despise the game
tepid salmon
And I've tried finding people in apex but they just dont click with me most of the times
quaint karma
some guy randomly added me after we played arenas
more than a year ago
i still play with him regularly
and then also just people from this server
tepid salmon
Lmao, yeah thats actually awesome tho
Hmm yeah maybe Ill just join in if I see people play apex in here sometime ig
sonic marlin
I should start playing more apex lol
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its fun if youre on the roller
tepid salmon
Apex chat is just a hivemind of hating roller lmfao
tepid salmon
400dpi?
sonic marlin
Nah
tepid salmon
1600?
sonic marlin
Ya
tepid salmon
Oh no
sonic marlin
What lol
tepid salmon
Hmm, why'd you switch?
sonic marlin
Wanted to try something new tbf
unborn token
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frigid bramble
no cap youve always been one blunt ahh mf🤣
edgy crane
<@182610108386246656>
unborn token
goofy ahh
vague nexus
opaque trellis
apex makes me think that in 5-10 years M&K gameplay will be extinct
placid root
Happens every time 💀
Randoms have their caveman rage kick in and they immediately leave
brisk depot
sorry for a little offtopic here, but looking only at the video, there is nothing unusual in his words, if I understood him correctly, then I agree with him. There is no direct evidence in the video that this is his alt account. well, he jokes about cheats all the time, I will not justify these actions, I just want to say that this is not proof, at least for me. To close the question, the most banal thing you can do is watch a stream with a camera on the monitor screen, apparently no one needs this, or I'm not well versed in this topic.
lethal wraith
just watch one video, it's enough to see how blatant it is
it's more of a meme really
quaint karma
sorry for a little offtopic here, but looking only at the video, there is nothin...
you can’t tell he’s cheating?
really?
bold swan
kanghoon is probably one of the best apex aimers ive seen
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i’d expect this from maybe a bronze player but surely if you reach jade you know what this stuff should look like
bold swan
and bro doesnt come close to that
bold swan
i’d expect this from maybe a bronze player but surely if you reach jade you know...
hi im jade
brisk depot
you can’t tell he’s cheating?
I have never seen reliable proofs, the only thing I hope I won't lie if I say that he himself said that he cheated in black ops 3. t’s just that all I could find on the topic (and I obviously didn’t search for a long time) is the post of the person above in which there is no direct proof (or I didn’t see it, it’s just that by default alt scarlet account = convolkjt)
It's hard for me to express my thoughts in short sorry)
bold swan
huh
brisk depot
i’d expect this from maybe a bronze player but surely if you reach jade you know...
master, how should that look like?
bold swan
his YT videos surely are reliable proofs tho?
bold swan
i can literally find u a timestamp to show how blatant that shit was, given everything else in his vid isnt obvious enough
brisk depot
his YT videos surely are reliable proofs tho?
not really if you are talking about his video "100% that I am not a cheater" there you can be biased if you wish (or want? Eng not my native language))
Or are you talking about his usual highlights?
bold swan
the usual highlights im pretty sure
ive only seen 1 and that was enough to make an assumption
cba to go through his explanations about nothing
quaint karma
there doesn’t need to be any explanations
or any further examination of his gameplay
or anything else
it’s about as blatant as it can be
and anyone who knows what legit tracking looks like
or who is aware that humans can’t have 0ms reaction time
is immediately able to tell that he’s aimbot ting
aimbotting
and fyi
brisk depot
literally centre body mass 0 response tracking on mnk
apparently even in the voltake community there are people who can be suspected of being an aimbot because of their excellent tracking, etc. what a person is good at aiming is it proof of cheats? Personally, I see his "reaction time" because we can rarely let flick instantly, there is always a pause in aiming
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no there aren’t
lethal wraith
literally no one even comes close
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not to me anyways
what rank do you have in reactivity
there are aimbots that make things look legit
and he’s not using one of those
for whatever reason
maybe it looks legit to a controller player because they’re used to rotational aim assist giving them essentially 0ms reaction time
but you don’t have aim assist on mnk
lethal wraith
maybe it looks legit to a controller player because they’re used to rotational a...
yep
like the only comparable thing, but no mnk player ever hits clips that look like controller
because humans don't have 0 ms response time
bold swan
apparently even in the voltake community there are people who can be suspected o...
i lowkey want to know who those people are
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what i don’t understand is
he makes money through these videos
why doesn’t he get a private cheat for himself
that looks legit
this shit is legit so blatant
lethal wraith
I mean if people fall for stuff like that then why bother
quaint karma
but ig somehow people are fooled anyways
lethal wraith
maybe actually controller players
bold swan
dude makes money from it, meaning its working for him
brisk depot
his apex account was banned multiple times
ok, these are a little big proofs, but remind me about yuraha, or about life_i444
if the latter is silent for now, then the former plays (and streams) warzone at a high level and does not get banned there after the apex ban. (And the apex ban in both cases came directly from the person from the respawn after the complaint of many players (the whiner hisswatson (I hope I won’t be banned for this, this is just my subjective opinion about his numerous reactions to various situations) and some other popular streamers.
By the way, both of them have a proof of a ban right on the stream, in the case of a convolkjt is there direct evidence or is it a rumor?
bold swan
discussion abt even
bro brought up convolk again
brisk depot
like the only comparable thing, but no mnk player ever hits clips that look like...
but many track just fine, I can send videos of various people, although I still don’t understand what it’s for, because a subjective assessment based on the standards of the maximum aim is very strange and can hardly be evaluated as an argument
lethal wraith
brother, no offense
but no amount of proof is going to win you over
seems like
we're literally talking some of the most obvious of obvious
💀
bold swan
happy5 i honestly respect ur opinions and the way u express them
but convolk dude
is just so blatant
idek what to say
lethal wraith
also please link me who you consider to be the 2nd best aimer you have seen
and if they're not a cheater, please explain me how the best aimer is like literally magnitudes better than 2nd best
quaint karma
idk who yuraha is
and life was accused of walling
nothing else
from what i know
bold swan
also please link me who you consider to be the 2nd best aimer you have seen
need i say more?
quaint karma
maybe he is aimbotting but it he is it’s very well hidden
quaint karma
who even is that
quaint karma
i only play apex
brisk depot
brother, no offense
it’s just that all arguments are built on the basis of only his amazing aim, naturally, as in the case of the two players above, the ConvolkJT is to blame, most likely he did not bother about the evidence (or he was tired of proving the same thing to everyone, I don’t know)
quaint karma
idk streamers from other games
bold swan
i only play apex
shes like the most iconic cheater who got busted on stream
everyone made fun of her
turbid trail
Is bronze rank good for a VT gm 🙏
quaint karma
on apex?
quaint karma
never watched cs tbh
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it’s just that all arguments are built on the basis of only his amazing aim, nat...
it’s not amazing aim, it’s unnatural, unattainable, completely blatant aimbot aim
bold swan
i binged pewdiepie and penguinz0 so i knew
brisk depot
and if they're not a cheater, please explain me how the best aimer is like liter...
it's like asking why the giterbunger (sorry, he has a very, very complicated nickname) (top 1 controller) is an order of magnitude better than other esportsmen, it seems that he won algs 2 times in a row, right? ok, I will try to find youtubers known to me, since we are in the apex channel, the actual videos will be on it
opaque trellis
i've never heard of this convolk person but the first video i looked at looks like a guy obviously wallhacking
quaint karma
and if you can’t see that and have spent any time at all playing tracking and watching other good players aim
lethal wraith
it's like asking why the giterbunger (sorry, he has a very, very complicated nic...
brother, genburten plays on a controller with aim assist
quaint karma
idk what to tell you
bold swan
i've never heard of this convolk person but the first video i looked at looks li...
bro was hard aimbotting as well
wait
giterbunger
😭
bold swan
bro put out so many words tho it would be such a shame
quaint karma
although idk why he’d being up convolk months later
bring
weird thing to troll about
quaint karma
and no, genburtens aim doesn’t look 10 times better than anyone else’s
in fact i don’t think he has the best controller aim at all
lethal wraith
also aim assist
quaint karma
but regardless, they’re all assisted by aim assist
lethal wraith
mnk doesn't get aim assist with 0ms reaction time
bold swan
because someone mentioned him a bit earlier
nah dude completely brought that up outta no where im pretty sure
lethal wraith
(I know, sad)
ah, cool
probably a shill then
probably another convolk video about people talking about him here incoming
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the giterbunger
brisk depot
and life was accused of walling
they have the same ban option, they keep a high level of skill, life keeps top 1-2 predators, when they are accused of cheating at stupid moments (whining) they are silent, after the storm rises more juraha tries to justify, but it's too late (my conclusion based on real data and his video in the chronology about this in which he did not lie about the events) as a result, he moved to the war zone, where he is not banned and plays at a high level, as I wrote above, in the case of life, after whining, he almost immediately began deny, but denial on twitter is not proof, as a result, also a manual ban, then stream with a camera on a mouse and monitor on a new account and a manual ban, on twitter, the streamers said that they were ready to cooperate on his direct messages to them, but nothing in the end and didn’t happen (or I don’t know about it for some reason) I don’t say that everything was exactly as I described, this is how I remember these events
brisk depot
brother, genburten plays on a controller with aim assist
and? Have you seen his video on MNK? There is a really high level of aim
lethal wraith
not even close to convolk my dude
brisk depot
but no one is in a hurry to ban him, whine about him
lethal wraith
not even close in aim
would you argue superman is a human too if you saw him flying in the sky at super sonic speeds?
brisk depot
but no one is in a hurry to ban him, whine about him
if the MNC starts immediately (by the way, in the case of two players above, whining was natural from many controllers (it came to ridiculous)) but now it certainly doesn’t matter, the arrow apparently does not turn)
little verge
Yeah, not even remotely comparable. No one with like 10cm/360 has that clean recoil control and smooth microadjustments.
Gen is pretty damn good, but the only people convolk level are other people cheating and lying about it.
unborn token
bro brought up convolk again
convolk who
brisk depot
and if you can’t see that and have spent any time at all playing tracking and wa...
I was watching. That's why comments like this bother me. (you can check with a stopwatch, I personally did not notice in that video "time scaling" "he even deletes comments exposing him on youtube" and he never posted reveal proofs here, bruh. it shouldn't work like this...
brisk depot
let me ask chat gpt
man
little verge
He's used cheat engine to time scale in Kovaaks, and has multiple videos of him using cheats in multiple games. He just copyright strikes anything that shows those videos off.
I mean, the only litmus test you even need is just by watching his recoil control when someone is behind cover versus when they peek out. If you still can't convince yourself otherwise then there was never any hope for you.
bold swan
@brisk depot honestly if im correct then from reading ur opinion, i feel like the only argument u got that defends convolk is that "what if there are people out there who can aim like that"
there hasnt been explanations of his 0ms reaction time or recoil control etc anything
brisk depot
not even close in aim
ok, I have to go, I will definitely throw a video of youtubers about which I wrote a little later. Thank you for leading a discussion about this topic here, now it seems everything has already become a joke, because none of us has enough data (and indeed, of course, the convolkJT must clothe itself. (not sure if the translator can cope with that word, justify himself, to prove himself))
lethal wraith
all you need is knowledge about aim and reactivity + eyes
little verge
If you have to copyright strike every video about you even potentially cheating, then you can't say there isn't data. Moreover, that's kind of a telling aspect about him trying to prove himself.
brisk depot
there hasnt been explanations of his 0ms reaction time or recoil control etc any...
I am unfortunately not immersed in the topic of recoil, so I don’t have his explanations (besides, I never denied that he might have a box (reasnow, etc.), unfortunately many have it in the apex)
in the case of aim, if I only record a video at every moment of the video justifying it, this is strange, and besides, it is impossible for me (after all, I will not connect two words in English in real time)
or do I need to litter this chat with moments with his videos and explanations as I see it
bold swan
whats a box
little verge
I gotta give this thing some props. I have never seen so many gigantic walls of text saying absolutely nothing.
opaque trellis
man the apex pack bug is so ass
i just hit the purple apex pack in the battlepass
and nope i don't get it
deleted forever
brisk depot
his reaction time is really fast, on at least one short cs video this is quite obvious, but again, I see no reason to continue the topic, I wrote above why, in conclusion, this is my subjective opinion, naturally, if he had cheats, I have never seen a cheater who is successful in all games and did not catch numerous bans there. Moreover, I have never seen someone cheating in aim trainers while throwing out a video about his scores.
little verge
He has had bans, he wouldn't be playing Apex if he didn't recently get a new PC to get around his HWID ban
brisk depot
whats a box
ReaSnow S1, xim and etc.
little verge
Respawn investigated his account and accordingly banned him. If you get banned by Respawn of all things then you're pretty blatant with it because they can't catch jack otherwise.
brisk depot
whats a box
a physical box for an aim assist or against recoil. (I think you know what it is) there are no guarantees that he does not use it, although there seemed to be no proof that he also uses it too
bold swan
yup, no proof of him using it, and no proof of him not using it either
that checks out
brisk depot
do a TLDR about why u think convolk is not cheating
can you decipher the abbreviation? "TLDR"
bold swan
man what the fuck
brisk depot
man what the fuck
I told you I don't speak English well lol
bold swan
im literally interacting with GPT
little verge
I feel like this is an AI that convolk generated to quell the cheating allegations to save face.
bold swan
going to sleep now
opaque trellis
can you decipher the abbreviation? "TLDR"
"too long didn't read" - it means provide a short summary of all the points
brisk depot
"did not catch numerous bans there"
I only heard about apex, which is quite possible, valorant ban, vac ban, are there proofs that he received them?
brisk depot
"too long didn't read" - it means provide a short summary of all the points
understood thanks
brisk depot
I feel like this is an AI that convolk generated to quell the cheating allegatio...
kekw, its translator right
lethal wraith
give me 5 years, I will have everything prepared
brisk depot
prepare all the documents and present them to him asap
obviously, without evidence, this will remain only a subjective discussion about which I wrote above, we do not have all the data to accuse or refute, (and indeed he should do it himself) (you asked to write again)
brisk depot
give me 5 years, I will have everything prepared
will wait
lethal wraith
in the end, does it even matter?
like if he's legit then he will go on to be a successful player
bold swan
alexa, how do u treat hair loss
brisk depot
in the end, does it even matter?
no, but I was interested to know, because if I myself find direct proofs that he is a cheater, obviously this question will be closed for me, but apparently this will never happen lol (or I wait 5 years
)
lethal wraith
quaint karma
if you play mnk on a high level
and have eyes
to see what his gameplay looks like
the cheating is BLATANT
bold swan
if you play mnk on a high level
doesnt even need to be on high level to figure out the sussy baka activity
quaint karma
you CANNOT
do THIS
without hacks
or aim assist and you being a goated roller player
it is impossible
you can train as long as you want
you wont hit the shots in the clip i linked to
bold swan
ITS SO BLATANT OMFG
night plume
all skill
bold swan
bro is certified chimp
lethal wraith
yeah it's literally centre body mass 0 ms reaction
perfectly smoothly staying in the centre
the moment someone switches strafe direction the next frame 0ms following centre
quaint karma
also the mouse cam is a joke
yeah no shit hes moving his mouse as well
you can also have controller cam
and see them aiming
they still have soft aimbot
his soft aimbot is just much more egregious
bold swan
nah he just switched to rawaccel and fingertip grip thats probably why
quaint karma
mf sees 0 ms reaction time and is like yup
a human can totally do this
💀
convolk just ascended
he knows the future
hes just predicting what theyre gonna do next
lethal wraith
proof?
sorry nosh, but I have seen someone on r5r say you're cheating so any information you give is fake
lethal wraith
quaint karma
yes tahts the one that stood out to me
oh you dont have the time to get good?
then why do you wanna be as good as someone who put in the time
find another hobby then
i feel like some of these people would defend perfect aimbot
'now i can focus on positioning'
little verge
God I hate that entitlement. "I should just be able to play like Steve Vai. Not all of us have time to learn music and an instrument"
And we wonder why AI art is a thing.
warped lake
Coping method for skill diff
lethal wraith
yeah it's sad
then people get into crazy mental gymnastics why it's ok
like controller players about aim assist for example
only thumb, doesn't even do anything, makes it harder cuz of knocks
dumb shit like that
meanwhile you have top controller players saying it's overpowered
and then response is "of course, they're top controller player"
quaint karma
a lot of these people who agree aim assist is op seem to hold the opnion that its only op at the very top
no, its way more OP at the bottom
becuase you ALWAYS have that 40% soft aimbot
no matter how good you are
you could be so bad as to not be able to aim at all and have it do everything for you
but no mnk player has that luxury
lethal wraith
yeah but mnk players run 600fps 390hz screens at 4k resolution
it's just different playgrounds
lethal wraith
console has 0.6
pc 0.4
but they argue that since consoles are locked to p much 60fps and below, then 0.6 is necessary
and that 0.4 aa with higher fps equals 0.6
but eh I dunno about that
quaint karma
nah
and .4 is way too high anyways
reduce it to .2
or you know what, they can have their reticle stick even more for all i care
if they remove rotational AA
or give it delay
maybe the delay part is actually not feasible cuz what if it ends up throwing off your aim
idk
brisk depot
a human can totally do this
well, like, yes, hisense = you can’t see the mouse movement normally if it’s a micro movement
I came not to continue arguing, but to throw the videos that I promised
quaint karma
i dont care about your videos
or what sens you thikn hes playing
he does inhuman things
and if you cant comprehend that
or spent all this time aimtraining and are unable to see it
then you are doing something wrong
im not even sure what youre saying
i never said 'hes not moving his mouse in his mousecam'
and the mousecam thing was something totally unrealted
unrelated
i said you CANT do what he does in his videos
no matter how much you train
its impossible
because you cant fucking get instant reaction time
also absolutely no one has this level of fine mouse control that you see in some of these clips
it looks like roller gameplay
just with 1.0 aim assist
lethal wraith
he linked majesty, euphoria, myto, eluna, kay, suconbucha
and naturally those don't even come close to the example you linked earlier
torn oyster
And we wonder why AI art is a thing.
Despite it. Some things are just down right incredible for it.
What's more cringe about it Is that someone won a digital art contest using AI art.
unborn token
https://youtu.be/OHpLEWaUHQ4?t=41
0:44 dude literally flicks in like 1ms
quaint karma
unborn token
nosh superior aim
iron ruin
Yo sup my homies. I was wondering something and maybe you guys have some answers or solutions. You guys have that moment when you're gamin' having a good time, decent runs but at some point you just realise you stop like actually "aiming" at the enemy and just go by feel? I sometimes have this and unfortunately my aim starts to suffer from it. Is this like a moment to call it a day or take a break? Or am I just the only one who has this issue 
iron ruin
https://streamable.com/ihhg8p
Also omfg, is this guy even human
iron ruin
seems like a legit cover 
lol
torn oyster
amazing logic.
having both skins but bh is cheaper to get the g7
lethal wraith
respawn
imagine wanting a skin but you have to spend twice as much, because it's bundled with another shitty skin you don't care about
torn oyster
or bundled with apex packs you dont want
biggest L ive seen in marketing
fine, recolor a skin that came out this year for next year. idc
but dont upcharge it thinking its okay with packs people simply dont want
regal rose
Mannn i just want a heirloom 😂
teal moth
Is there a way to have custom video confing on r5?
my shit keeps dipping down to 30 fps randomly
quaint karma
bro stfu
like actually
i just realized that convolk apparently made a community post or whatever about a tweet mentioning him
and ofc his following arrives on this server
quartz perch
quaint karma
and brings up shit from 3 months ago
quaint karma
defcon joined
just to say
'it seems like yall care so much'
cant make it up
LMFAOOOOO
quartz perch
It's just an alt of his probably
Anyone who watches convolk is an AI bot
Such real gameplay
quaint karma
the other guy defending him was some jade dude
imagine being jade and not realizing
his aim is unattainable
quaint karma
jsut the simple fact
that a human cant have instant reaction time
should make it obvious
but ig most of his following failed high school
dull falcon
https://youtu.be/OHpLEWaUHQ4?t=41
no this shit actually looks unreal the recoil copnrol as well is strange and that level of micro adjustment at those ranges seems hmmm
quaint karma
its about as blatant as you can get
idk why he doesnt tune it down a bit
but clearly theres people dumb enough to think hes legit
even with it being this blatant
i think his raw aim is probably so bad
that he himself doesnt realize how obvious it is
dull falcon
its about as blatant as you can get
bro casually doing target switches for no reason
quaint karma
like you need a certain level of awareness
i think a lot of his followers are probably controller players
who dont realize how much of the heavy lifting aim assist and especially rotational aim assist does
controller clips can look like instant reaction time
because they literally are
cuz of the AA
idc about cod, his apex aim does not look legit at all
in any way shape or form
dull falcon
there not much tracking needed on cod tbh
quaint karma
i went to his channel earlier
to find an apex video
and afterwards his community post poppedu p on my youtube homepage
dull falcon
mfs want clout so bad
quaint karma
and apparently VT cartoon had accused him of scamming children for aim guides
idk if he actually takes money for 'aim coaching
'
but i assume thats why theres several accounts in this discord talkign about him out of the blue now
who has good aim
dull falcon
kinda stuck in this range rn
im getting the feeling back
anyways i dont hack
if i wanted good aim id spend two weeks trying to learn controller
it sucks not being able to reach the skill ceiling faster
quaint karma
💀
yes i wonder why thats in the video
i can tell you have no idea how to aim then
and thast cool
but please stop talking about him anyways
whats the point lol
to me this is incredibly blatant
and you can adjust how blatant cheats are
for good ones
so idk why
he doesnt
tune it down
like i said
well your opinion is simply irrelevant
so
werent you the one who brought it up
lol
you just exposed yourself
dull falcon
tbf that guy has cheating accusations against him
quaint karma
think we need a ban sweep
dull falcon
i mean thats not good
quaint karma
for all the convolk alts/his fans invading this server
just stop bringing him up, no one gives a shit about your favorite cheater
who you think is legit for whatever reason
in fact
we had a rule about this when it first happened last time
that he shouldnt be brought up again
then somehow
3 random people talk about him
in one day
@lusty vault can you do something about @finite prawn @brisk depot and @leaden flax
dull falcon
yo @quaint karma how do you train your self to kind of track slower at like "same velocity directional changes" , like i can be reactive but its like im over aiming all the time
not sure who this is, is it a pro
dull falcon
im gone
uh i use 800 .9
i have fun
lots of fun
i like his close range
i like monsoon i like low sens players'
quaint karma
did you just say 7
dull falcon
bro lowkey coulda been a demon by now
quaint karma
how old are you now
dull falcon
i aint pick up fps games until like this year sure i used to play phantom forces when i was younger
quaint karma
how old are you now
dull falcon
life is crazy
dull falcon
how old are you now
prolly around 18-20s
quaint karma
prolly around 18-20s
probably 12
in which case hes not allowed on discord
who the hell says 'ever since i was 7'
making it sound like you were 7 yesterday
ig this fits the picture
of the gullible children being scammed out of their money
actual 7 year olds on the server
or someone who says they remember things from when they were 7
as if it was like
last year
very sus
yes please call an admin
dull falcon
chill fam it aint that deep i swear
bro i bought mw i aint touched it since i bought it
quaint karma
youre talking to a 10 year old my dude
torn oyster
ill get 5k eventually
dull falcon
wtf is the chat rn
quaint karma
wtf is the chat rn
i was telling you you were talking to 10 year olds
dull falcon
1v1 apex if you have time?
elfin sierra
common qheutie w
little verge
Holy shit, Qheutie in the Apex chat 
dull falcon
yo wtf ,
https://outplayed.tv/media/gyGrw7
brisk depot
this text was written in advance, but since not only I started asking, I’ll explain, the convolk posted a post on YouTube about the situation in brief, I’m obviously not his “fan” And obviously I don’t want a ban here, my answer refers more specifically to another person (writing through other servers would be strange, because the topic was here) I will not continue the topic anyway here @quaint karma
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=jBN1kQNTrm4
look at this, this is obviously a different situation, but this is "perfect tracking" except for the mistake at the beginning, as was the case with the convolkJT (0:11) (I'm not trying to prove that they are the same)
many people would say it's not even possible to do this kind of tracing through the smoke here (0:16) , although it's actually not that hard, not to mention 1 frame flick and etc. , which seems impossible, which seems impossible but what do people do my thought is just this.
Of course, I did not find the same highlight, As I said I'm not trying to prove that they are the same, not only because of he aim (convolk), but also because almost no one takes 1x flatline to reactively track at a medium distance. (didn't even find this one lol) Other aspects of aim, other games, other scenarios and even another moment in the same video you prefer to ignore, "impossible" that's your position okay. https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=OHpLEWaUHQ4&t=95s
my position needs more data, but you have to be obsessed to do a detailed analysis of a person’s aim, as I wrote many times above, he must do it himself, I’m obviously not his lawyer and no one will pay me money.
P.S for some reason the text has not been preserved here, I will write briefly.
it’s not nice (not ethical, I don’t know) to block a person before he answers (I didn’t insult, etc.) of course you don’t need to answer me, this is just the fulfillment of my promise and answer about your position... I don’t I want to continue this topic, at least from the point of view of your position, it's pointless right now, if only sometime later. I’m obviously not his lawyer and no one will pay me money to continue this. Thank you for posting your opinion about this thread. @lethal wraith
if i violated, I'm ready to get punished (although I already received 10 hours from the bot for the many links by mistake.) But pls not permanent.)
alpine trail
bold swan
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=jBN1kQNTrm4
look at this, this is obviously a di...
im pretty sure the video she did not react
she just predicted and changed direction at the same time the other guy strafed
even then, her aim looks legit bc its not center mass
convolk boy is just hard locking the enemy in the center of the screen
bold swan
Of course, I did not find the same highlight, As I said I'm not trying to prove ...
and the 2nd video where u linked a time stamp, pretty sure he had his aimbot off bc that was just bad aim lol
i mean why go in depth about something that normal eyes can even detect idek
brisk depot
you all continue this thread 
I, as I said above, will not interfere, as promised above
abstract herald
so is it 1000% confirmed convolkJT is a cheater lol
unborn token
Anyone with a functioning brain can understand he is cheating yes
bold swan
nah bro was requesting legal documents and data about why convolk was a cheater
tepid salmon
lmfao
devout tusk
https://youtu.be/OHpLEWaUHQ4?t=41
aahahahah the octane jump track
just instantaneous arc tracking yup hes just that good
torn oyster
Hitting superglides to kill people who can't do it without an auto exec is honestly really enjoyable
wet skiff
Waiting on the day respawn takes initiative and turns it into an official movetech that isn't based on FPS but a proper coded time delta window
teal moth
What's the deal with firing range clips
torn oyster
People 1v1 here as if it helps.
little verge
Waiting on the day respawn takes initiative and turns it into an official movete...
Respawn won't even take the initiative to make Apex good, much less prioritize the significant minority of core players.
dull falcon
People 1v1 here as if it helps.
low pressure situation to practice mechanics