apex

[lusty vault]

Bought it over a year ago and just never used it

[cunning crane]

@lusty vault I'm literally on no pad rn

waiting for my skypad to get here

[lusty vault]

Skypad is nice

Didn’t really notice a difference at all between my 2.0 and my hien

Was super easy to swap

Plus I get to keep my hoodie sleeve rolled down

Win win

[cunning crane]

I really want the consistency it promises

I always miss so many micro adjustments because of the friction

[alpine trail]

skypad was nice

couldnt play it for too long though

had too many cramps

too much tension

playin on ac2 now

[cunning crane]

you're tensing while aiming?

[alpine trail]

ye cause it was hard to control mouse

er, stop it

for like double licks

[cunning crane]

yea dont tense

[alpine trail]

if u dont keep mouse perfectly still in tarkov, it treats it like 2 single taps

[lusty vault]

I’m sure I’ll go back to my hien

[alpine trail]

so it was impossible to use skypad unless u perfectly held mouse still

[lusty vault]

It’s just too easy to aim on

[alpine trail]

to click on items

[cunning crane]

what's your voltaic benchmark?

[little verge]

Hien is definitely still a nice pad, and helps cover up some occasional shakiness with the grip the pad offers, but I'm getting addicted to the Skypad glide.

[cunning crane]

you have skypad too wtf?

everyone getting skypads

[alpine trail]

All Fuze players are bad

[little verge]

I had one for quite awhile, backed the 3.0 kickstarter.

[alpine trail]

Think this is a 100% true fact

Backed the 2.0 but didn’t enjoy it too much. Was tempted to get 3 but meh

Rather save the money for other important stuff. Just bought a new vacuum

[lusty vault]

I just want a 3.0 so I can get a white skypad

[alpine trail]

Have a white 2.0

If you want heh

[lusty vault]

I alr have a 2.0

Or I would

3.0 is larger as well

[cunning crane]

I bought the aim labs limited edition one 😅

hopefully it reminds me to aim train aha

[lusty vault]

Praying for you

[alpine trail]

That was a pretty good deal for them

The whole sponsorship

[cunning crane]

yea I think so

Been wanting some kind of aim trainer mouse pad for a while

makes sense

[alpine trail]

Does Crypto drone have to look at people still or does it auto scan anyone in range? Noticed it was scanning people that weren’t in LOS.

Another bad Fuze.

Unsurprised.

[lusty vault]

I’m going to majn fuze

[alpine trail]

pls, need to see a good fuze

[alpine trail]

thinkin bout tryin the nvidia inspector config again. having trouble seeing ppl while fighting near the grassy plain areas between pois

on new map

[alpine trail]

Dude what the heck Eva with double tap and purple feels so bad

Like it feels like you’re better off taking the double tap off

[alpine trail]

SHEEEEEEEE

W

[lusty vault]

W

[cunning crane]

double tap eva is goated, 100+ damage in 0.5 seconds

[little verge]

The burst is surprisingly strong, but since three shots usually drops people sufficiently I find it just leads to forcing a reload with a wasted shell. But I don't really run Eva either anymore.

[alpine trail]

it just felt bad haha

[lusty vault]

I only run eva because I bought one piece skin

[alpine trail]

guess its just cause the double tap

couldnt reliably hit shots

might try aiming lower or somethin

[little verge]

I find the Eva double tap is best when you're barrel stuffing them. Once you get out past a certain range it just makes it harder to hit consecutive shots.

Especially with that damn hip smoke.

[cunning crane]

15 kill game

could have got my first 20 bomb if my team mates didn't throw by pushing in needlessly

[little verge]

Nah, that mirage was gonna farm those last two squads fr.

[cunning crane]

it's actually the bang that threw

the mirage actually clutched that game massively, me and the bang were full killed and he managed to get banners and avoid detection from a full squad and respawn

props to these team mates though, they didn't quit when they were both full killed and I pulled off a 1v5

[alpine trail]

Oh yeah. Was mid range without any ammo on secondary and it was only doing 16 a shot or something

In ranked?

That would be why

Also just got the same dumbass controller player twice who didn’t know how to break off of jumpmaster.

Twice landed together and he was following like a puppy

[cunning crane]

I didn't use voice chat once lol

I just let them do their thing

[alpine trail]

Gold roller players are trash

[alpine trail]

Do you have it off or just don’t talk

[cunning crane]

@alpine trail you know there's a certain type of strafe movement that is harder to hit for controller players

[alpine trail]

Oh wait you’re casuals

[cunning crane]

because it throws the aim assist off

[alpine trail]

What is it

[cunning crane]

you basically have to try and chill more with your strafes

[alpine trail]

Just stand still?

[cunning crane]

dont spam it, very easy for controller to hit

nah you want to go left and right like waves

[alpine trail]

Just been sliding past people

Yea, long strafes

Been doing that and getting beamed

[cunning crane]

crouching and allowing yourself to complete a full crouch and changing direction

idk works for me

[alpine trail]

Ah crouch spamming

[cunning crane]

but let yourself complete the crouches

most people spam left and right and crouch so fast they almost end up standing still

[alpine trail]

Isn’t that true for Ow too

Oh wait nvm

Certain characters have janky models

Where it’s good. Like Dva or sojourn

[cunning crane]

no clue about OW

[alpine trail]

Will give it a shot

Long strafes with full crouch, then change direction before crouch finishes

[gentle mantle]

throw in some fakes also

[alpine trail]

Doesn’t work against controller

Only mouse

[gentle mantle]

idk they still have to react to a quick change in directoin because they have to move the stick in line of the direction of the strafe so if u dodge quickly right so they move their stick right in anticipation for a strafe right and you dodge left quickly then you thow them off

[cunning crane]

the aim assist helps them with that

[gentle mantle]

yes for sure

but it helps them with all aspects of aim

[alpine trail]

no like

it autosnaps if u change direction

they dont even have to adjust

itll just folow you when u try to stagger ur strafes

again, ur thinking it like its mouse v mouse

yea, mindgames are good

but roller in apex auto adjusts to changes in strafes

keep in mind this isnt like aim training where ur tracking a skinny pole

as long as it changes fast enough, itll still be hitting u even if its not the exact center of ur body

[gentle mantle]

fair

[alpine trail]

Watched a controller Lifeline once just run out into Lava Flow solo, get on a bridge, stop to loot a pill, get beamed 130 by Path, Path grapples in, Lifeline looks up and doesn’t bother to shoot, and when he lands, she just one clips him with a Flatline with only headshots

They legit have the game play for them

Don’t even need to use their brains

Out of position, just aimbot

And yea, not everyone can pick up controller and do well

But the people that are on controller clearly are beyond stupid LUL

Oh just realized Digi is in rotation, so Bang would be easy win

[placid root]

Both the popular battle royales that are actually decent have problems with controller players being too strong

like why

Am I supposed to play Krunker or something now to enjoy aiming?

[gentle mantle]

Just play kovaaks

[placid root]

Kovaak's as main game

[alpine trail]

FORTNITE/

?

oh wait warzone?

[placid root]

yes lmao

[alpine trail]

ooh

well fortnite can still be fun

[placid root]

Who plays Warzone lul

[alpine trail]

warzone on the other hand

has random recoil LUL

controllers dont have it

cause aim assist kek

[little verge]

Random recoil AND visual recoil.

So you can't trust your sights outside of being centre mass.

[gritty vault]

arenas ranked is so fun!

how is it possible to do 89 dmg in 6 rounds

[alpine trail]

Oh yeah, and the fact the sights move and sway so you can’t even use Hudsight to keep track of your shots

[alpine trail]

we won lmao

hahaaaa sheila https://clips.twitch.tv/ViscousEsteemedEggnogWow-kcuEGfT1Mq1fp7VN

[true ravine]

just hit your first shots

[unreal flax]

It would be so cool to see a tracking version of this task

[devout tusk]

[Lifeline: Pass me dat sugar.]

why would you add to the visual clutter

[alpine trail]

because it isnt distracting

and its fun reading what ppl say

like maggies lines

u can watch strim to see the eye tracker

can read it fast and be back on target in a jiff

[devout tusk]

concentration diff i guess. i just know i would be reading those paragraphs like a teleprompter while losing a 1v1 lmao

nice clip tho

[alpine trail]

haha yea, adhd go brazy

[wet skiff]

i like how there's so much visual clutter you can barely see the opponents 😦

[little verge]

You better, or with that TTK the roller will.

[quaint karma]

lmfao

[alpine trail]

whats the best kovaaks playlist for apex

[lusty vault]

Proud of you

[dull falcon]

getting hit and popping cells or bats literally takes up alot of space on the screen

funny lil animation

but anyways more importantly what is proper technique for reactive

tracking

i dont want to go watch the ridd video on it

can you elaborate on being flicky

for something like gp9 i actually cant keep up

my best score was 8k

its pretty low now

[true ravine]

play the game

if u want to improve on apex, just play the game, if u want to improve your aim, then u ask for good kovaaks playlists

[dull falcon]

but i mean u wouldn’t want a tracking playlist for valorant

no point

[wet skiff]

proper technique for reactive is underflicking when you correct onto it. Hardest thing is realizing that it's speed doesn't change, just it's direction.

[dull falcon]

anyways the one in the resources is pretty good

ill record myself doing some runs of it id love some feedback

[dull falcon]

KovaaKsFinishingRangedChat (reactive tracking and smoothness tracking )

[quaint karma]

https://streamable.com/0o21fa

aimassist kicked in ig

[dull falcon]

can we go back to lstar meta

[tulip viper]

Hello, I am new here and never talked before. What kind of aim training should I do to improve in apex?

[devout tusk]

dynamic and midrange reactive

[tulip viper]

@devout tusk Is this in aimlabs? I am new to this all so more detail the better.

[worn sparrow]

play r5

you can play dm or do the flowstate aim trainer

but there's kovaaks/aimlabs routine for apex, should be in #resources

[frigid bramble]

it has been almost 2 hours now, and my new youtube video is still in 360p... ive still gotta wait for it to go to 4k😭

[gentle mantle]

What's dynamic reactivity

Xyz?

[quaint karma]

wym by that

dynamic refers to dynamic clicking

[gentle mantle]

.

Oh do they mean dynamic clicking and mid range reactivity

Just dynamic clicking shortened to dynamic

[devout tusk]

yes

[frigid bramble]

finallllllyy my videos uploaded in 4k.... whats that, 4 hours later

[wet skiff]

honestly train it all, but focus mostly on smooth and reactive tracking. Once you can track smoothly, ingame you can focus on using recoil smoothing and basically remove all recoil from your gameplay

[dull falcon]

ngl tho i been grinding this for months or a few weeks

my scores been getting better but it dont feel like it’s improving on apex

[wet skiff]

ok so the same thing happened to me

then I took a break from apex, played some overwatch

https://giant.gfycat.com/TintedFixedChrysalis.mp4

https://giant.gfycat.com/SelfishBrilliantHarborseal.mp4

Basically, I'm focusing really hard in my OW games to just focus on smooth tracking, and finding that suddenly I can apply it significantly better than I used to. I think it's because you learned Apex before you had those skills developed, so you're falling back onto old habits, aiming wise. So going into something fresh might help reset your brain into utilizing all that practice you've put in better, it's definitely helping for me

[random thistle]

Stop breaking things! :C

[wet skiff]

Taking a break from apex and playing something new, while focusing really hard on applying smooth tracking, might benefit you a lot, like it is for me

[random thistle]

It didn't break, it's a feature :^)

[wet skiff]

I think it's all about habits and learning something new might help you reset, because you can learn it fresh and apply the new training without having to worry about old habits, you just learn the new game as if smooth tracking is how you're supposed to aim and that helps, because you don't have old habits to fall into like you do for apex

[dull falcon]

it takes like a week or 2 to unlearn something no i mean habits

[wet skiff]

before I tried playing OW I was starting to feel like the aim training didn't help or impact me at all, but looking at my OW gameplay it's so obvious how much better my tracking has actually become

Yea. But it'll take longer if you aren't mega focused on breaking those habits, which you won't be for a game you've got a ton of experience in. You have to actively focus the entire time you are playing, for 2 weeks, on smooth tracking, and that is extremely difficult on a game you are very familiar with. As soon as you think about something else, like positioning, you'll revert back to your previous habits

[random thistle]

It didn't break, it's a feature :^)

[wet skiff]

For something new, you learn from scratch and it's much easier to focus on remaining smooth because your brain has no old habits to fall into, it's all new so learning comes quicker

This might be more unique to me cus I have the ADHD debuff, so habits are very difficult to form/break and maintaining focus is extremely difficult, but I genuinely think taking a 2 week break and playing another track heavy game like overwatch will help apply all the training you've done. Come back to Apex and then do the same thing, focus hard on smooth tracking at first and hopefully the tracking habits you picked up with practice/new game carry over and it becomes your natural, default way of aiming

[random thistle]

I know, Stevy sucks at coding.

[wet skiff]

that's my hope anyway

[frigid bramble]

first off walk, whats your YT. i need to see more clips of your smooth ass aim😍

[wet skiff]

nah I don't do that lmao I'm not nearly good enough yet

I need more consistency before I can think about that, probably if I get to jade complete I'd feel confident enough to undertake streaming again or youtube. I'm not even plat complete yet

[frigid bramble]

oh shushhhh, that aim from those 2 clips is what everyone wants to see mate

i wanna see you wit a yt channel n clips very soon 🐐

[wet skiff]

Yea, it's what I want to see, as well. But I needa get more than 1 clip every few days first lol

[north rivet]

would it be possible to put the settings in the R5Reloaded Voltaic 1v1 server so that even if you are alone you can run around the map and do movement to wait till someone joins to 1v1?

[frigid bramble]

trust, sometimes i get 1 clip a day, or sometimes 10.. like today. very rarely 10 though. maybe once every week or two weeks

[wary star]

true

[frigid bramble]

sometimes i get 0

only takes about 35-40 clips for a 2min video too

AYO OW2 IS FREE????

[wet skiff]

yea that's the only reason I'm playing it atm

[frigid bramble]

clips otwwwwwwwww

[wet skiff]

don't like the gameplay that much, but the game runs really well and it's def good aim practice, I just soldier 1 trck atm

[frigid bramble]

yah same. the guns are fantastic, the visual clutter is next to none, you can always perfectly track an enemy with your eyes although in apex i feel its hard

recoils good, movements fine and strafe directional changes are instant so its good for reactivity tracking, and clearly its good for smoothness too

its like you can aim train AND have fun / get clips

[wet skiff]

honestly my only real complaints about the game itself is that I can't disable hit markers or increase the fov. But that's so little to complain about in an fps game, everything else is superb, despite not being my kind of gameplay

[frigid bramble]

yeah, definitely not my sort of game usually, but its amazing tbh. it does remind me of team fortress 2 aswell which i played when i was super young wit my father

[wet skiff]

I think if they took the engine and made a generic TDM/Domination game with regular guns and no heroes it would be incredible

[frigid bramble]

it would easily be the most enjoyable game

i think the guns are great with perfect ttk and visuals

oh, and of course, the FPS😍

[dull falcon]

anyone like ridd make educational content ab aiming

[wet skiff]

what's wrong with ridd

[wary star]

guys

[left sluice]

ranked damage pb 😮

[wary star]

isn't that just titanfall?

[wet skiff]

not at all, titanfall is nothing like overwatch

[wary star]

my bad

I replied without reading context

lol

[wet skiff]

[wary star]

yeah I also one trick soldier

I should play the deagle guy though

[wet skiff]

he's the best for tracking practice imo

though you could also play zarya I guess, she's pretty great

but then you have to play tank

😦

[wary star]

I am not a tank typa guy tbh

[wet skiff]

same. I could probably be pretty good at it if I 1 tricked zarya, but issue is that it's 1 tank now so if I get counter picked and don't swap I'm basically throwing

[lusty vault]

Orisa

Be like me

[wet skiff]

nah literally all I want is hitscan primary I can use for tracking practice. Soldier is perfect, he lets me practice at all ranges and is out of meta, but useable so I get him 99% of games

I could probably rock bastion and do great as well though

[lusty vault]

At that point just play vaxta

[wet skiff]

who the fuck is vaxta

[lusty vault]

It’s a custom map code

[wary star]

mfw I don't even know who that is

I usually play soldier or genji dodge ball

[lusty vault]

Vaxta is like best warmup for any game

[wet skiff]

couldn't find any games with this code

[lusty vault]

You just play it alone

[gentle mantle]

https://youtu.be/SGhsap8TjD4?t=53

what is this in the time stamp

the game i mean

[untold adder]

@lusty vault are you online

[lusty vault]

Negative

Working

[untold adder]

😔

[lethal wraith]

diabotical

[gentle mantle]

do people still play?

[lethal wraith]

somewhat

[gentle mantle]

is it on steam?

its not*

[lethal wraith]

nop

[dull falcon]

this is informative

[gentle mantle]

you not seen it before?

[dull falcon]

nope

[gentle mantle]

yh its good

would recommend

[dull falcon]

ive heard mirroring and anti mirror b4

not the other 2

[gentle mantle]

you not read the strafe aiming guide?

if you want i can send

https://www.dropbox.com/s/sggvgbwpz9e5bih/Strafe Aiming 101.pdf?dl=0

[dull falcon]

i have not been into strafe aiming

just literally the pockets i’ve been in are

reactive/ smoothness

and like static

[gentle mantle]

yh

[untold adder]

this work for overwatch?

[gentle mantle]

its for all games

strafe aiming theory

[untold adder]

oh nice

[gentle mantle]

well

for longer ttk games

apex and above

[untold adder]

this aimer7 guy is really popular amongst you pc players huh

[gentle mantle]

yh for sure

[unborn token]

Hmm

I just started spending a bit more time in strafe scens

Idk why

Man this game rly being a bad experience lately

[gentle mantle]

damn diabotical is fun asf

[gentle mantle]

anyone want a 1v1 eu

[warped basin]

holy shit the aim assist in apex is stronger than i thought

havent touched a controller in over 7 years but wanted to try it so i booted apex and its crazy

dont play apex either

[placid root]

💀

[untold adder]

it really is

[warped basin]

i knew it was strong but never expected it to be this strong considering i havent used controller since bo2

[untold adder]

just wait till u see console aim assist

[warped basin]

yeah i thought about that

[untold adder]

pc is actually aim assist, console is aim bot

[warped basin]

now i wanna try warzone aim assist considering this was crazy

[untold adder]

try bloodhunt aim assist

its the strongest aim assist by far

[warped basin]

never played it on mnk

[placid root]

Pinpoint the exact spot I switched from my SkyPad 2.0 (current pad) to my old Coolermaster MP510 💀

Slight consistency diff

I guess lower sensitivities are not for this mousepad lmao

[untold adder]

whats skypad

like a stockbroker?

[placid root]

💀

[untold adder]

what?

[placid root]

If you haven't heard of skypads, search 'em up

[untold adder]

nah im not really into stocks

[lusty vault]

ggs @torn oyster

[winged vector]

Is it clean?

the MP coolmaster

[placid root]

you asking if it's good?

[winged vector]

No, have you cleaned since you started using it.

[placid root]

well, I'm cleaning it now

but it was so much more consistent than my Skypad already

[torn oyster]

ggs the b2b dubski's

[lusty vault]

you guys are the goats

p kid was insane

[winged vector]

I thought the point was that you were worse with coolmaster

[placid root]

Misread the message then 💀

[winged vector]

Or did I misread the graph

Yep, I definitely misread it.

[placid root]

lol

[winged vector]

Sorry😅

I'm not good with graphs at all, that and I merely glanced at it.

[placid root]

It's fine 😄

[torn oyster]

imagine almost 1v2 a team and some 5head pepega wraith main ruins your clip.

[placid root]

lmaoooo

[alpine trail]

what is fovscale supposed to be

[true ravine]

1.5 default

1.7 120 fov

if its what u mean

[dull falcon]

whenever i do this scen centering my wrist pivot point ends up lifting

[echo inlet]

anyone for a quick 1v1?

eu

[devout tusk]

how does apex still feel this shitty, i assumed it was just from the new season but its still dog

[dull falcon]

doing kovaask with no sound >

did this one with no sound ohn

[alpine trail]

oh, so fovscale is just ur fov? gotcha

[alpine trail]

Double tap hoppy only good on Scout

It negates purple bolt on Eva

[alpine trail]

LMAO spectating a cheater that knows how to superglide

https://clips.twitch.tv/UnsightlyGracefulButterflyDeIlluminati-rBgA6OEQB24c0dXk

[torn oyster]

spectating the cheater that knows how to use autoexecs prob

i dont think actual cheaters know how to play the game.
or its being hard boosted by a ex-pred

[lethal wraith]

where jitter 😩

[carmine viper]

There are Quake pros out there (specifically the quake pros with the best aim) who feel that playing lots of OW is better for your aim than kovaaks grinding

[lusty vault]

I’m in that boat as well

Playing a single custom map for 15ish minutes a day made my aim better than kovaaks ever did

There’s a lot of factors in that but it worked for me specifically

So I’d recommend trying

[warped basin]

idk since i started playing ow i only use OW trainers. my aim in ow is way better but if i go play kovaaks now my scores have tanked

[lusty vault]

I think if you’re playing for kovaaks scores then play kovaaks

But in game aim seems better trained in a game for me

I don’t see very much carry over from trainers

But I could be at a point where I’m getting diminishing returns

[devout tusk]

Kovaaks just doesnt have the pressure that real games do

And you need that for the improvements to really come through

My aim in ow wouldnt be anywhere near what it is rn without kvk but ow solidifies it for other games so much better

[carmine viper]

9 months of kovaaks and vt didn't do diddly squat for my wingman. My wingman only started to get good until I started playing lots of R5 dm.

And control ltm

[lusty vault]

No trainer has been able to replicate real movement patterns and speed for you and the bot

[carmine viper]

Exactly

[lusty vault]

And wingman is just a lot of knowing when to shoot

But that’s why for anything game specific voltaic recommends in game practice as well

[devout tusk]

There was one scenario that helped my wingman a lot a few years ago actually but i forgot the name

It was like clsi with clicking

[carmine viper]

Sounds like one of the vt apex clicking specific playlist scenarios

[devout tusk]

It was probably just the clicking while tracking practice tho since i was usually panicking too much to every try doing it that way in game

[quaint karma]

i mean how would playing pasu ever help you hitting wingman shots

if were talking

someones in your face and youre 1v1ing them basically

sure if theyre running along in the distance

you might be able to hit a few more cuz pasu\

but then also bullet travel exists

you can easily train wingman shots in r5

[astral pebble]

rate my S15 progress

[cunning crane]

Oh look, more idiotic team mates ruining casuals

https://outplayed.tv/media/veVxol

I don't get it, just fucking solo q or do arena if you're going to insta quit

all day, leave, leave, leave even though they can still be ress'd or respawned

[lethal wraith]

you gotta learn to ignore it

also @cunning crane did you see the wattson trick mokey made a video about like yesterday or smth?

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=bzpiCRqOeSE

[astral pebble]

would have 100% disconnected same as them. that was obviously a hacker team.

[vague nexus]

just play with someone

[cunning crane]

oh wow didn't see that, nice 😄

[quaint karma]

got on game

had the glitch for like an infinite amount of time so i just got every heirloom

[astral pebble]

watson has the absdlultely most useless kit and annoying as fuck Q thats easy to activate by mistake, would not play F-

nothign worse than accidentally pressing Q and sitting there waiting for the shit to deploy as you get aimbotted by a hacker

[untold adder]

her ult is pretty nice

[astral pebble]

i forgot what it is cuz i never use htem

oh the spinning chargy thing?

i only pick dogshit chars when forced by a daily/weekly

[untold adder]

gives u shield

useful for late game cus u can almost infinitely peek and not have to use heals

& it also counters nades

[lethal wraith]

best part about wattson ult is that it can make unplayable spots playable

so like the roof of a building is going to be near unplayable without a pylon, because you can get pushed off by a million different things and abilities

[dull falcon]

what region is this one

china?

[astral pebble]

yes

CN = china

and qq is their chat software thing

[untold adder]

that's true, wattson is great in ranked

[unborn token]

average apex convo

[placid root]

You don't just "enjoy" Apex. You bask in the pain and suffering of knowing that you will die to worse players no matter how good you get and keep grinding. 😔

https://tenor.com/view/this-cannot-continue-stinkbugs11number1smeck-fan-cat-cat-in-water-water-cat-gif-25921319

[glad nimbus]

Apex Legends

BOARD THE WINTER EXPRESS IN THE WINTERTIDE COLLECTION EVENT

Winter is almost here with the return of the Winter Express game mode and introducing Wraith’s new Prestige Skin, the “Apex Voidshifter

ALL ABOARD THE WINTER EXPRESS!

...

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=yUj-9faWDcM

[unborn token]

the game is just not enjoyable anymore

[placid root]

I miss having 0 matchmaking and just meeting players of all skill levels

Just like my experience with Team Fortress 2, before the Meet-your-match update 😔

Just getting absolutely shit on by 1 skilled player and then shitting on them later on felt amazing

[unborn token]

i mean i kinda do too

but the game rn is just not it

lot of cheaters

the 2 same game modes that literally dont get new content

[torn oyster]

Jitter? I don't know them.

I think genburtens meme on jitter aim is iconic

[torn oyster]

Oh boy can you wait for a third year recycle of an ltm with the only change being your shields auto regen out of battle

For 3 weeks of all things

[wet skiff]

jitter aim is a meme

[edgy crane]

asdfgh

[untold adder]

anyone 1v1

[vague nexus]

when is the new even out?

[glad nimbus]

Apex Legends

Update Nov 30

Rise and grind, legends ☀️ We just pushed a @PlayApex patch to address some issues with Broken Moon, Catalyst, and other fixes including the following: https://t.co/9VPPURlDMQ

[lethal wraith]

crypto thing should have stayed

[little verge]

Imagine releasing the most mid season when tensions with Respawn/EA haven't been higher, and then you follow it up with those patch notes.

[quaint karma]

i mean

personally i believe not a single streamer knows how to read a graph or analyze trends in even the most rudimentary way

and it shows

idk why they started pushing this ‘apex is dying’ narrative but clearly people are that shit up

and are now actually convinced of it

i guess it’s easy to think something like that when you play a game for 10h a day every day

for 4 years

and then you convince casual i play apex 2h a week of that

for what?

[little verge]

It's not dying in the sense of playerbase, but the core playerbase is basically hanging by a thread.

[quaint karma]

god knows

meh

[little verge]

And the continued nonsense on the competitive side is even more of a joke than before.

[quaint karma]

what nonsense

you mean ea not paying staff?

about the only thing i can think of

[little verge]

Not paying casters, rulings and disputes on end zone data mining, low prize pools, etc.

[quaint karma]

that data mining thing is the dumbest thing ever

like actually

sweet just loves himself a good bit of drama

if anyone, after reading this, still thinks this is something controversial then idk

what to say

[little verge]

No, I absolutely agree that it's something anyone could and should make use of. However, let's take into account Respawn and EA. You just know they'll argue against it.

[quaint karma]

well apparently someone was gonna put out a statement on it

let’s see how that goes

i don’t expect them to agree with sweet

personally

[little verge]

I do, there's not two brain cells to rub together in that studio much less publisher.

[quaint karma]

why this stuff is stored on the client in the first place is beyond me

it doesn’t make even a bit of sense

there’s no way the server asks the client for which endzones can’t happen

does it ask every client?

but they all have the same data

like why lmao

probably some dumb bandaid thing when they added impossible endzones

[little verge]

Probably just an easy way to implement for Respawn as quickly as possible.

[alpine trail]

omg apex is rlly cool

solo q-ing into plat 3 with a silver and bronze teammate

that was rlly swag

[gentle mantle]

big brother matchmaking

even in ranked?

[quaint karma]

now that i think about it, in the case of r5

client and server have almost the same files

so that’s probably why

[alpine trail]

only time its happened so far this season but

yeah it was slightly upsetting

[wet skiff]

Because it feels like respawn has completely abandoned the game and is completely disconnected from the playerbase.

Only a small skeleton crew is actually working on apex, and none of their budget is allocated towards anything that doesn't directly earn them more money.

[echo inlet]

Does anyone else feel like it has been the sweatiest season in apex legends history?

Nobody takes a fair 1v1

Three stacking in pubs

[lusty vault]

I don’t have the most pub games played this season but I played 2 yesterday and everyone was just falling over

[vague nexus]

Idk feels like the same old apex for me

[placid root]

same here

[placid root]

I guess it was placebo

I can never just be consistent

[little verge]

Two major reasons for that. 1) People found out if you don't three stack the matchmaking will give you useless teammates if you're even remotely above average and 2) Casuals avoid ranked because they get run down, so they instead take their ranked experience to pubs

[ember wagon]

i just realised i only flick right to left

is this a skill issue or do i not care about improving dat shit

[lusty vault]

any apexers

[rare slate]

TBH ranked is a better experience than normal IMO until around plat. At this point people that wanted master/pred have already achieved it or is at least at around diamond and is now playing casual games. so if you are low ranked this season it's really easy to get to plat. but will agree rando's are complete garbage most of the times

[little verge]

It makes sense from a physical standpoint. It's easier to bend your elbow and wrist towards you, so it's easier to swipe in that direction. But with practice you'll learn.

[astral pebble]

maybe next season I should only play ranked

[ember wagon]

why not start now?

[alpine trail]

ranked arenas logic

[sonic pasture]

can someone tell me how to do those quick shifts in direction like how faide is doing it here . Name of the tech would be enough

https://www.twitch.tv/videos/1665175720?t=1h12m48s

is it just tapstrafe but without sliding?

[dull falcon]

is there a trick to hit more kraber shots

[atomic path]

kraken cursor so cute

[dull falcon]

any one seen the recent apex controversy

[untold adder]

nickmercs & gdolph?

[vague nexus]

Isint it like common knowlage that nick pays to 3stack?

[dull falcon]

tsm data mining thing

ive seen sweet and some other pros chime in on it

[vague nexus]

Oh the thing where you would know where the ring doesnt end

[vague nexus]

Idk if thats cheating, im pretty sure you can learn where zones tend to not pull just by playing

And pros just get it datamined so that they get an advantage early in the season

[true ravine]

like

it doesnt matter

all pros played this game for 2 years minimum

they know all the zones, the datamine barely helps

it just make it easier to lazy people

[vague nexus]

Each season they change i think

If like new zones get added

Or a new map like this season

And i think there was a tournament early in the season and this got brought up cause some pros had this info and used it

[little verge]

I mean, they don't ban actual cheaters anyways so they're good

[vague nexus]

i highly doubt they will ban the orgs that keep the pro scene going

that would be like shooting yourself in the balls

[quaint karma]

https://cdn.discordapp.com/attachments/575758199064625168/1047601479021760522/IMG_4163.png

its obvious anyways for most of them

if youve seen the maps with the impossible endzones

they dont end on places with multiple levels as that will end in a heal off

and they dont end on mountain ranges and other places like that

thats pretty much it for the most part

this is all just stupid drama

this is like looking at the game files for a second and seeing a file with every impossible endzone

just

right there

no one looked at source code or did anything nefarious

or interacted with the server or god knows what

its just right there

sitting there

for god knows what reason

also the last line here

im pretty sure opening zip files on your computer is permitted by law

💀

dumbest drama ever

and yes im aware its not a zip file but im sure most people here wouldnt know what i mean if i called it an archive file

[astral pebble]

cheaters don't need to look at game files

all those claimed "pros" got a side monitor off camera showing all the players nearby and wall hacks and shit

casuals have no chance to survive when faced with shit like that

[nimble edge]

not wrong

used to play competitively in rust and i’m not kidding 50% of the players were closet cheating

went on to apex (was #551 pred last season) learned the hard truth that a majority of pros and other preds are closet cheating through outlines and radars. arena is also filled with soft aimers and wallers

sad thing is non of these people ever get cought cause the crazy software developed. this group on rust that was considered one of the best teams had a cheat and for them that was ran through a separate network server and computer that the maker got that hid files in window exe (anti cheats aren’t allowed to view those files due to privacy laws)a so they payed thousands for a cheat that is impossible to detect

[nimble edge]

idk if ur joking or not but deadass same my friends actually cheat and try to hide it so hard but like i still know lmfao

i just don’t even care anymore tbh

also I used to Q u all the time in ranked lol

ya..😭 crazy to me that these people exist

@spring patrol u claim to be youngest pred but how old are u

[quaint karma]

logan

dongie is a troll

[astral pebble]

?

[nimble edge]

@oblique pulsar i would never take that

[astral pebble]

nuwush who the hell are you

[quaint karma]

🤫

[nimble edge]

well i’m so fr lmfao

oh

i just turned 16

so i was also pred at 15

good looks bro

[alpine trail]

valk ult feels so good for solo, since u can force ur team to rotate to good zone

[vague nexus]

When i start my ult my teammtes start shadowboxing bruh

Minimum 20 seconds for them to attach

[lethal wraith]

on every gun or wingman?

because wingman model kicks up and to the right, so if you're flicking from the left you're making it harder for yourself

flicking from left to right on wingman is going to be way harder than from right to left because of the gun model

[astral pebble]

imagine if flicking actually served a purpose other htan showing off

how good your aimbot works

[alpine trail]

u just say "im ulting" and give them 5s before going. valk so easy to get into top 5 solo

[quaint karma]

dont flick

[untold adder]

i like flicking when i play mnk

it's cool asf

[lethal wraith]

flicking for no reason is bad, flicking is good

https://cdn.discordapp.com/attachments/904109398123773983/1047647828178108436/Replay_2022-11-30_23-12-01.mp4

[oblique pulsar]

Noob

[untold adder]

these mnk players

[lethal wraith]

roller kills me there 😔

[cunning crane]

no u

WTF

Literally 0 zero

they both had guns

early game fight

if you can aim at least punch wtf!

[alpine trail]

WE PLAT NOW! WOOO

Got carried by some dudes in battlecord tho. lots to improve on

[untold adder]

exactly!

[cunning crane]

why is it whenever I queue casuals I either have to hard carry, or lose

[untold adder]

nice!

[vague nexus]

go play ranked, i think its time to just accept the fact that your teammates are not going to stick around. Ranked is ass too, but not to that extent, at least you wont get anyone below level 20

[cunning crane]

I can't play ranked when I only have a short bit of time before work to jump on

I can only play it on my days off

and I work shift work so I can barely ever find a consistent team to play with

[vague nexus]

rip

idk, i just play ranked like its casuals

the goal is to win eitherway

and if i must hop of i just hop off

the ban will pass by the time im back

[cunning crane]

actually

i should just solo q on my alt

1 account for when im lucky enough to get premades that i can play a bit more consistently with

and 1 account for solo

q

[alpine trail]

picked up old mouse (g305) to go back to being a jitter shitter

feels so weird going from 40g mouse to 90g

[cunning crane]

my mouse is 82g

shouldn't jitter aim though

jitter aiming isn't the difference between average and masters anyway

and it's not good for you

[wet skiff]

ya jitter aiming is a meme

i said it before

[quaint karma]

who jitter aims

other than hollow

[echo inlet]

Jitter aim is useless I only managed to kill one guy by jitter aiming through my 6 month apex career lol

[alpine trail]

can jitteraim without any effort

cause heavy mouse

just push down on mouse

er, lift it

[devout tusk]

goated mouse fr, i always go back

i modded mine down to 70g tho

[alpine trail]

yea, it would be niucer if it was closer to the finalmouse weight

only using it for apex tho

cause its easy jitter

can easily do 200 dmg on the far target, and thats all that matters

no pain from jittering too

think ppl just havent learned the right technique to jittering

[wet skiff]

why can't you lift your regular mouse

[alpine trail]

the cursor doesnt shake when u lift it like the g305

logitech sensor be wylin

it can even sense ur bloodvessels

[sonic pasture]

can anyone help ? 🙂

[untold adder]

when u have octane stim you don't need to slide for momentum because the octane stim gives u momentum

same with wraith's wraith

[sonic pasture]

so he is just stimming and then just hopping left and right? 🙂

[untold adder]

while tap strafing yes

[sonic pasture]

thanks 🙂

[alpine trail]

mozambeek heeya https://clips.twitch.tv/AbstruseSpinelessFriseeFrankerZ-us9bKOQ42JSO0Dak

[lethal wraith]

nice

mozam goes hard tbh

I would rather have mozam than p2020 any time

also jitter aiming is fun as fuck

nothing more satisfying than bullying a charge rifle nerd on sniper rifle distance with an r301

[placid root]

yep yep

[lethal wraith]

you don't really need it

but it does increase your range by a ton

[vague nexus]

idk why some people say its a meme, i do it from time to time on really long ranges where aim smoothing wont have an impact and i cant control recoil at that range

[lethal wraith]

also finally hitting a jitter clip is seggs

[vague nexus]

i can probably find an olimpus clip where i beamed a dude from estates middle building to the bins where the portal thing is

[lethal wraith]

https://streamable.com/jal2tx

[placid root]

I love jitteraiming as a Loba because I can just replace all the ammo that I use on cracking an entire squad for no reason

[wet skiff]

only way I would ever jitter aim is with macros and I do not use macros

I love my wrist way too much to subject it to that sort of punishment

[placid root]

Doesn't really do much to your wrists if you do it right

[alpine trail]

yee same

[alpine trail]

this

can do it with arm off the table

and wrist off the table

its technique

[wet skiff]

actually, hold on. You might be able to do it by setting your mouse DPI really high

you'd need a hotkey that swaps your ingame sens to compensate for it, though. So a hotkey that sets your DPI to 10k and cfg hotkey that swaps your sens between two values so they both trigger at same time

that wouldn't technically require a macro and could potentially get you the "jitter" you need by making the sensor too sensitive to functionally use

[alpine trail]

or just have good techinque

[wet skiff]

if you need a specific mouse with a bad sensor Idk if I call it technique though

i think I'd need a clip of your arm showing what you mean

[lethal wraith]

also you don't need to jitter to get something out of it

I think one of the techniques is to do a small circle

with you crosshair while you fire

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=MsIAQiuLt2I

also good video from one of the movement goats

[placid root]

this lol

I literally do this and it works

[wet skiff]

I couldn't do a small enough circle / maintain consistency when I tried it, I think my sens too high to make that a realistic way for me to do it

everything I've seen on jitter aim shows people doing it by hypertensing their arm so it shakes

which is just.. so bad

[vague nexus]

The way i jitter is i push my fingers into the surface of my mousepad and just shake my arm down from my elbow

[alpine trail]

with g305 u just lift the mouse slihtly off and let the sensor do its jitter thing

u can even put dust to make it constantly jitter lmao

[alpine trail]

9 minutes too long

[alpine trail]

bad sensor?

its so good it can scan ur blood vessels

thats why it freaks out if u put ur thumb on it

[fringe girder]

apex challenge

[untold adder]

1v1s?

[gentle mantle]

eu?

[untold adder]

[gentle mantle]

you still down?

[untold adder]

ye

[gentle mantle]

ign?

[untold adder]

same as here

[gentle mantle]

sent

u gonna accept?

[untold adder]

yeah probably

[alpine trail]

won with vantage wtf

[sonic pasture]

sheesh, that is a pretty good tech! 🙂

i had two pretty good games today. >2.5k. good because I get only 40-50 fps. content with the results 🙂

[torn oyster]

Recoil control >>>

[wet skiff]

it's just another zipline tech 😦

zipline techs boring af

[tepid salmon]

apex always has been just zipline techs for movement lmao

thats if you exclude all the "new" and "different" strafe techs

[wet skiff]

ziplines dumb af, it's just abusing low tick rate to make yourself impossible to hit, there's literally no skill involved in zipline shenanigans

plenty of other good move techs but ziplines are just broken netcode bs

[tepid salmon]

you played r5 in a bit?

they apparently now have 60 tick servers

atleast some servers

[sonic pasture]

zipline movement is amazing and entertaining to watch. but it is fine to not like it. to each their own 🙂

[tepid salmon]

Sadly I deleted r5 a day before I heard/saw 💀

[lethal wraith]

at this point zipline shenanigans are the most mechanically intensive part of apex

[wet skiff]

it's only entertaining if you don't really understand why it works the way it does. Once you realize it just abuses bad netcode it becomes a lot less impresive

[sonic pasture]

it is the only game that has this movement. if every fps game had this, i can understand the frustration. apex is unique for these kind of crazy movement techs

[tepid salmon]

I think the techs are kinda cool, but also mad stupid

[lethal wraith]

you can still hit them when they're flying bro 💀

[sonic pasture]

exactly. people aren't invincible while doing these techns, lmao

[lethal wraith]

obviously if you're a zipline zero and not a zipline hero you will be shit on

[tepid salmon]

I wonder what we can still find in the game tho ngl

[gentle mantle]

i disagree just because something is a feature of broken code it still requires skill to peform it and thefore i still think its enterataining to watch

[lethal wraith]

there's a reason why people land on zipline buildings for farm content

because you actually have the most individual power there

[tepid salmon]

like, we probably already have found most of the techs right

[sonic pasture]

lol what does understanding how it works has anything to do with enjoying watching people do those techs? if the guy doing the techs comes out on top, why isn't the guy dying using those techs to stay alive?

[alpine trail]

recoil control can only get u so far. jitter isnt needed but it can pull off stuff that just controlling ur recoil cant achieve

[tepid salmon]

atleast the buggy ones if you understand what I mean

well not buggy techs, but the ones that make less sense than the other ones lmao

[alpine trail]

yea

learn both

jitter hits some stuff that recoil cant

and recoil control helps way more in close range

[sonic pasture]

100%. the OG construction building is probably the only building that demands all skills from a player in the game imo.

[tepid salmon]

jittertracking sounds awfully hard

yeah idk tho, I feel like it mostly helps with people standing still but even then, thats probably it

[wet skiff]

if the guy doing the techs comes out on top, why isn't the guy dying using those techs to stay alive?

I have no idea what you are trying to say. But the reason so many people struggle against it is because spamming zipline jumping desyncs your animations/hitboxes. You don't need any fancy movetech to abuse it, just scroll wheel jump and hold F on high sens so you can go back and forth quickly. As long as you touch floor inbetween every few bounces you can make yourself very difficult to hit with very little effort

[tepid salmon]

well yeah, I guess I understand that, but the general idea of techs with zips are cool imo

[wet skiff]

ya if it didn't break the netcode it'd be cool, although limited

there's also only really a few buildings that it works well in, you usually need a vertical zip that has multiple floors and 2-3 walls. Streamer, construction, and the other building in WE being an example.

[untold adder]

ggs :D ur insane

[gentle mantle]

u2

[untold adder]

nah its just the aim assist ;D

[tepid salmon]

tomo actually scary to fight ngl

[untold adder]

he is

we were on his servers too i was fucking struggling

[tepid salmon]

mf moves around like a maniac lol

[untold adder]

no amounts of aim assist could help you keep up with that man

[tepid salmon]

yeah

[devout tusk]

i have not heard of this or experienced this a single time

[torn oyster]

Shooting a dead horse with how many times I've posted it. But you can achieve this with or without jitter aim. I don't want to say it doesn't help bc it does. But at what expense. You get 5 kills with jitter aim but in 4 years you'll have wrist problems and won't know why.

Micro adjust. Make small "circles", and smooth it out.
Looks almost identical to jitter aim without killing your wrist in the process

[alpine trail]

14 damage

[torn oyster]

I'm almost certain the dude in there 1v2ing was pissed that I ruined his clip

[alpine trail]

now do it with a havoc or flatline

[tepid salmon]

flatline wouldnt be much harder I reckon

havoc would be doable aswell

a bit harder, but not impossible either

[torn oyster]

It's the concept, not really changing much else.
Havoc is harder at longer ranges ofc

[charred scroll]

@torn oyster How small are the circles and how fast must they be made?

[torn oyster]

But the concept doesn't change. R301 is just easier to do that with

[dull falcon]

https://youtu.be/jynKTDbAFps

[charred scroll]

I ask because I can't jitter with the arm tension technique as my arm remains steady regardless

[torn oyster]

I don't like jitter aiming because I already deal with wrist problems. So my own technique that I and a lot of other people use to do long ranges is more healthy than consistently jitter aiming

[alpine trail]

jitter with havoc is so fun

again, if ur getting wrist problems with jitter, ur doing it wrong

[alpine trail]

can just be smooth slow large circles

but more effective if small circles

as long as ur not stationary with your mouse, itll do the recoil reset

you can test it by just pulling down to the right slowly

[charred scroll]

So, the smaller the circles, the faster they need to be made right?

Yeah, i've tried this technique but it doesn't feel as good as just controlling the recoil intuitively, like doing the pattern

[untold adder]

🥸

[charred scroll]

People say to just tense certain muscles and your arm will just vibrate, use fingertip grip and that's how to jitter but my arm literally will not shake no matter what I tense 😢 🙄

[alpine trail]

basically but its pretty ez to just slowly make a circle

test it in firing range and see how much ur recoil is affected by large slow circles

[charred scroll]

Thanks, I guess I just don't understand how to stay on a long range target while making circles

I'll experiment though thanks for the tips

[alpine trail]

it has to be consistent

the constant movement is what ur trying to get

[untold adder]

any 1v1s :D

[torn oyster]

@charred scroll
It's hardly a circle at all but it's the easiest way to describe it.
Deals with slight reaction to where the gun is pulling and adjusting the opposite direction very quickly.
R301 makes this method so much easier due to the easier recoil pattern. It's pretty consistent unlike something like havoc devo flatline

If the prowler had non smg range it would do well for this too, same with r9, predictable recoil pattern just awful at ranges (per video reference)

Sometimes you'll make semi circles in theory but even with jitter aiming it's making a squiggly circle with lines in-between it like x's and +'s

Jitter aiming is okay for short burst long distances, but real aim control & recoil smoothing is all you need.

iirc Vt torje had a video explaining recoil smoothing. (Might be someone else) but I'm sure it was him.

[untold adder]

"(Might be someone else) but I'm sure it was him."

[torn oyster]

I just remember seeing it. Idk who made it

[untold adder]

i trust you man

[torn oyster]

Came up in feed one day

[alpine trail]

wats wrong with the range? theres no damage dropoff right? just bullet fall?

[torn oyster]

Level with me here.

In order to keep playing games you want to be in a healthy condition, physically.
You know the term "you break it, you lose it"
Over time that damage will effect you for the rest of your life.
It's not something I'd personally recommend to anyone "start picking up jitter aim"
Atleast for a primary aim source.

There are so many other healthy alternatives that give same outcome if not better if you take the time to practice and learn.

[little verge]

Not to mention it's not worth potentially doing damage to your body just for something like Apex lol.

[torn oyster]

It isn't the answer for everything though

Yes your points are valid. With recoil like havoc or flatline it does help. I agree 100%

[untold adder]

i have been playing this game for 400 hours and never knew there was no dmg drop off

[torn oyster]

But if you start with a jitter aim and smooth it out. It's only causing strain on your wrist

Charge rifle is the only exception iirc

[alpine trail]

haha, yea. people dont realize it cause u dont try to hit long shots with smgs, but if u can hit them with taps, itll be very effective

[alpine trail]

cr has dropoff now?

[torn oyster]

I'm sure it has for awhile, just the initial hit doesn't

[alpine trail]

yea, never said its the first oslution

would never tell anyone to learn jitter

its just fun to show it off

[torn oyster]

I don't really use it.

[alpine trail]

wait what? thought it was the same dmg any range

[torn oyster]

I prefer not to. It's a point and track gun

[alpine trail]

yea, pretty sure it doesnt change

[torn oyster]

It's not fun to use

[untold adder]

i play double claw

im too far gone

[torn oyster]

It's not that it's hard. It's just the most boring play style.

[quaint karma]

ill 1v1 you @untold adder

not today tho

[untold adder]

tf

why would you get my hopes up like that

🥸

[quaint karma]

tired

i play raw input so i dont have inhuman consistency

🤫

[untold adder]

what does that mean

classic?

[quaint karma]

mnk

[stray valley]

That was the initial nerf when it came out

[quaint karma]

i 50-50ed a good roller player

but i have to be at the top of my game and now is not that time

[untold adder]

these mnk players

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i mean

your close range tracking is free

literally 0 skill required

no one can tell me otherwise

its not that way on mnk unfortunately

[devout tusk]

crazy how close range tracking is like one of the hardest and physically tiring mnk skills

and roller gets it for free

[alpine trail]

ah gotcha

still easy to farm dmg with it it feels like

[quaint karma]

its ok you just gotta be celestial reactive to keep up

🤫

even then you only win cuz most roller players are horribly unskilled

and dont put time into getting ebtter at their input

and just rely on whats given to them

there is no way anyone should be missing shots close range with controller

i honestly stand by that opinion

[untold adder]

all those years of training just to lose to a kid with a joystick

[devout tusk]

ive never lost to a kid with a joystick

[untold adder]

real 💯

[untold adder]

would you like to participate in a 1v1

against a kid with a joystick (me)

[quaint karma]

are you actually like

good

or

[devout tusk]

no im dog at apex and its been hardcore stuttering since the new season

[untold adder]

good is subjective

[devout tusk]

so im even more dog

[quaint karma]

i could 1v1 you on roller

im p decent at 4-3 classic aim assist abuse

ADSing

if you lose you need to give up your input

deal?

[untold adder]

i use 7-6 lol

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jesus

youre throwing

[untold adder]

there is 0 chance i lose to you

[quaint karma]

you 100% will

[untold adder]

or to anyone on their first day on controller

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i barely miss shots if youre in my face

[untold adder]

🥸

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honest to god

[untold adder]

i barely miss in general

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but nah if you play 7-6 ill prob win on mnk anyways

youre just making it hard on yourself at that point

[untold adder]

:)

we'll see

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@untold adderhttps://streamable.com/ir4ooj

[untold adder]

extremely predictable movement

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indeed

[untold adder]

even i could do that on mnk

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LMAOOO

[devout tusk]

this guy is funny

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its ok i need to have some respect for him cuz he plays 7-6

and not braindead 4-3

[untold adder]

id only use 4-3 if im going for a 30 bomb lmao

shit is so slow and so broken

[quaint karma]

4-3 actually feels like cheatying

cheating

[devout tusk]

crazy how roller has all sorts of options and response curve graphs and they still need the game to aim for them

[quaint karma]

i mean its just

for some reason

controller gets assistance but mnk doesnt

what about all those awful mnk players

theyre just expected to raw dog the game

[devout tusk]

poor guys

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like those guys deserve some bullet magnetism

[echo inlet]

I'm going to switch to controller when I get to that aim fatigue point what should I mainly adapt to when I'm switching inputs?

[quaint karma]

theres not much to do

download r5 and practice on there

probably the quickest way to get better

other than that

knowing how to aim on mnk and read strafes helps immensely

[echo inlet]

I have r5 already so that's good

[quaint karma]

id practice some recoil control

and try being gentle with the stick at like longer ranges

cuz those small movements are

a big thing

[echo inlet]

Do you think your mnk skills transfer?

[quaint karma]

some of them for sure

you hvae to pay a lot more attention to your targets strafes on mnk

so that part will be insanely easy

and then having the game react to the strafe as it happens

[echo inlet]

Absolutely

[quaint karma]

you can just be perfect

its silly

[echo inlet]

When someone ad strafing

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https://streamable.com/s8w27q

look at the second guy i killed on the stairs here

instant reaction time

crosshair never left the target

he might as well not have been strafing lol

[echo inlet]

I mean ad strafing is the hardest thing to read and not predict but you don't even need to try to read the target when you're on controller lmao

[quaint karma]

oh nah ad strafing comes with the input

its free

hitting it

AA basically reacts to it for you

or if you just anti mirror

theres no way you can miss

[echo inlet]

😯

[quaint karma]

idk how hard it is to actually get used to aiming with a stick tho

i have a few thousand hours on controller but that was more than 10 years ago

so

[untold adder]

ngl ur pretty decent for not playing on controller

[echo inlet]

I tried a controller with a wingman before selling my ps4 and it was unbelievably easy to hit shots but I didn't try other guns

[quaint karma]

i only have a few horus on it in the last few years

so yeah

its busted ngl

like i have maybe

10h tops of controller on apex

[echo inlet]

I have almost zero exp on controller because I used to play racing games with a steering wheel on my ps4

[quaint karma]

yeah wingman is controller gun

its really easy

anything with strafe speed

is good

ARs are harder

cuz most of your aim comes from AA and strafing

slight stick adjustment

s

[echo inlet]

Do you recommend practicing controller without aim assist for a while and then turning it on?

[quaint karma]

i mean if youre just shooting at target dummies in r5

dont see why not

its probably an easy way to get better

i actualyl think that

doing

whats it called

tile frenzy

on r5 on controller is very useful

just to get used to moving your stick around and acquiring targets fast

and it doesnt give you AA anyways

[echo inlet]

Absolutely

I think also target switching on controller helps your aim more than it does to mnk I may be wrong though

Without the aim assist actually

[quaint karma]

what i would do is go into r5 and also play running targets

and just try to aim at the ones further away and be gentle with the stick

and try to track them

once youre on target its hard to not hit them but you have to get on target first