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night plume
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idm that much

mint inlet
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  • flicking feels easier on it idk
devout tusk
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Vertical aim feels so bad for me on stretched

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And it looks silly

mint inlet
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all preference

night plume
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i think both native and 1440 are great

devout tusk
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Recoil feels nice tho. Everything looks so steady

night plume
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i just prefer 1440 more

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🫡

wet skiff
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that will bring your aim back to "square"

devout tusk
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Not really

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It doesnt work like that

wet skiff
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yes. That is mathematically how it works.

devout tusk
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No

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I studied this in uni

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Its just a little closer but its not

wet skiff
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you studied 4:3 stretched in uni?

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that's oddly specific

devout tusk
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Computer graphics

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3d aim is not linear

wet skiff
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I guess you could use the formula for it, but I think the difference is pretty close to being negligible if I'm being honest

devout tusk
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There is no perfect multiplier

wet skiff
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I think you're thinking of this:

cm / (tangent(zoomFOV/2)/tan(hipfireFOV/2)) with fov in degrees

You can use this to calculate exact difference you'd need for 1:1 sens feeling between different fovs

echo inlet
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How should I move when someone is ad spamming? Should I mirror/anti mirror or just adjust my aim? Because tracking an ad spamming enemy specially with pistol strafe speed is a bit harder.

wet skiff
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but in the case of 4:3 vs 4:3 stretched, I'm pretty sure you can just multiply by 1.333, because all you're doing is stretching the image by 33% on a standard monitor. I don't think you need to worry about anything else

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if all your goal is doing is having 1:1 for x:y axis

devout tusk
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Im thinking about the general concept of projecting a 3d space onto a flat plane and how two different fov angles have different distortion because the arcs of each is different.

wet skiff
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Yea, but in the case of 4:3 to 4:3 stretch, you aren't changing fov - you are changing the pixel width

devout tusk
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...

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What di you think stretching is

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You are stretching the same fov to a wider plane

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So in game you are 110, but thats really 123 16:9, by stretching it you made the 16:9 horizontal fov 110, but left vertical fov the same

wet skiff
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I think stretching is exactly what I said. You're effectively just changing the width of the pixels. Your view doesn't actually change, it's the exact same. The only difference is that your pixels are now 33% wider(assuming standard 16:9 monitor) than before. This means moving, say, 1 cm left and 1 cm up, you're going to move 33% further in horizontal distance than in vertical.

wet skiff
devout tusk
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I feel like that doesnt matter but im mega tired rn so you might be right

dull falcon
devout tusk
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Having trouble holding the mental model together lol

wet skiff
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Think about an image on a shirt with a stretchy material, then pulling on it - the image is getting wider, but nothing is actually changing - it's same fov and image as before.

devout tusk
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The problem though is that the movement isnt linear

wet skiff
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that's only true for when you are changing different fovs. When you're just adjusting image size(which stretching is doing) - that isn't relevant. For example, you can take the same setup on a 21" monitor and a 24" monitor and they'll be the same, the 24" will just be slightly bigger

devout tusk
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If you arent looking level with the ground, horizontal motions dont produce the same on screen movement

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Irrespective of fov

dull falcon
wet skiff
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So you can think of going from 4:3 to 4:3 stretched as going to a bigger monitor, but only on the horizontal axis. It's the exact same pixels rendering, same fov, same sens, but the pixels are slightly larger, only in this case, only on the x axis

devout tusk
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Im talking about

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Man im so lost now

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U know what tomorrow ill try it

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But also the different distortion levels look weird, like how a sphere will look like a rotating oval if it goes over your head a certain way

wet skiff
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yea so all that you're currently thinking of happens before the "stretching" part of 4:3

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if you're changing in game fov or from 16:9 to 4:3 that's all true and correct

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what makes it different is that the game sees 4:3 and 4:3 stretched as the exact same, it doesn't do any changes or adjustments for that at all

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it's all the exact same pixels that are being rendered. So when you move your mouse in xy, it's treated as if you're on a 43 square monitor, so the game does all the calculations for that to be 1:1 xy sens

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So the game can't compensate or recalculate the sens you'd need once you stretch the image, hence why your x and y start to feel difference once you stretch it. If you don't stretch it and just keep it all default at 4:3, your xy are normal and 1:1

quaint karma
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sensitivity has nothing to do with pixels

wet skiff
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when you stretch you basically have x1.3333:y1, as a result. So if you want your xy to be equal, you can multiply your y sens by 1.3333 to get the same result. If you go back to normal 43, though, your y will be faster than your x and it'll feel really weird

quaint karma
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its way more complicated than that

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Angular distance

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{\displaystyle \theta }

(also known as angular separation, apparent distance, or apparent separation) is the angle between the two sightlines, or between two point objects as viewed from an observer.
Angular distance appears in mathematics (in particular geometry and trigonometry) and...

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i cant pretend to know how it works but it works differently than you think

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In first person video games, the field of view or field of vision (abbreviated FOV) is the extent of the observable game world that is seen on the display at any given moment. It is typically measured as an angle, although whether this angle is the horizontal, vertical, or diagonal component of the field of view varies from game to game.
The FOV...

wet skiff
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ya so basically im trying to explain that the angular distance is calculated on 4:3, not 4:3 stretched. Stretching it doesn't change or alter that in anyway, that's already calculated before you stretch the image.

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so the stretching happens after all of those fov and sens and other calculations have already happened. All you're doing at that point is effectively making the pixels on your monitor wider. Everything is already rendered and done before you do that and the game treats it as a regular 43 image

quaint karma
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i was more so talking about how changing your sensitivity works

dull falcon
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yall are so informed

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idk shit bout resolutions and shit

unborn token
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I still want a better res than 2048x1440p

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:/

dull falcon
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booost

unborn token
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Pogg

dull falcon
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another oneeee

unborn token
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Let's gooo

dull falcon
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this one was actully really good kinda stopped my self from like reading and predicting the short strafe loops that go into wider strafes

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i dont fully track the wide strafe sometimes and go back

echo inlet
grand fable
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Is this a good place for LFG? Looking to grind some ranked today.

dull falcon
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what rank are you

grand fable
wet skiff
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i mean i'd hope so, gold is basically a pulse check

lusty vault
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Gold is a captcha

quaint karma
dull falcon
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im super late to this

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but anyways im in super low sens nowdays

quaint karma
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whats your sens

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@dull falcon

dull falcon
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.9 800 dpi'

wet skiff
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that's a pretty low sens, I think 1.2/800 is 43 cm

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so that's like 50

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That's too low for me, my arm gets tired 😭

quaint karma
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oh thats hella low

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.45 1600

wet skiff
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I used to do around 81 cm/360 for PUBG. Had the most gnarly recoil control and was best kar9 sniper you ever seen, but sucked at multitarget and if I got shot in the butt I was 100% dead lol

quaint karma
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57

wet skiff
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imo the biggest issue with that low sens is that you wear yourself out pretty quickly then you start having really lazy aim

quaint karma
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think it might be a bit too low ngl

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for apex

wet skiff
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I agree. I would personally say 43cm is the absolute lowest you should ever go for apex, that's 800/1.2 or 1600/0.6

dull falcon
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im enjoying it lowkey

quaint karma
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.55 or .5 is playable

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but whatever tbh

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just keep in mind

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tracking close range strafes is vastly easier on higher sens

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like if theyre in your face

wet skiff
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playable, but below optimal imo

dull falcon
quaint karma
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you know what i hate

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seeing clips like this

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and mnk players are proud of them

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but any decent roller player hits these clips consistently without even thinking twice about it

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first one you dont even have to move your stick

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second one you coulda oneclipped the guy as he walked up

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straight up

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its silly

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and respawn thinks this is good balancing

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of inputs

dull falcon
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sorta why im proud when i do manage to get one clips or like smooth tracking in game it feels more rewarding than the kill

quaint karma
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yeah its just stupid

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then they say midrange is easier on mnk

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sure

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marginally

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and long range

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i mean i guess

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but you can just pick up a scout or a repeater

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and nothing happens long range anyway

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like actually

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playing roller is the least rewarding thing ever

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i literally feel like im playing a phone game

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where all of the aiming is done for me

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its also incredibly sluggish

dull falcon
wet skiff
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I think I gotta take a break from apex for a couple weeks

dull falcon
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why?

wet skiff
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I'll try grinding to like, masters in OW. Then come back. I need to ingrain my smooth tracking into a habit, and I think I'm just constantly reverting to all my old aiming habits because that's how I learned apex

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so I play properly for like 2-4 games a day, then after that I revert and lose all my progress

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that and the game is absurdly stale rn, Seer meta, visual clutter, 90% controller players. I just need a break from being aimbotted I think lol

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ima still hangout in here, though, you guys are chill

dull falcon
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i want to try this too but just play kovaaks only

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i feel like my croshair placement is bad im just looking at ground half the times

wet skiff
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yea you don't wnna look at ground but tbh crosshair placement is irrelevant in battle royales

devout tusk
# wet skiff ya so basically im trying to explain that the angular distance is calculated on ...

Ok i slept and can actually think right now. It doesnt matter if the game knows what the fov actually is, and pixels have nothing to do with this. Your eyes are perceiving two different distortion amounts since you have changed your horizontal fov only. Distortion increases as you look away from the center of an fov, meaning lower fov looks flatter than higher fov which affects how if feels to look around whether you "match" your sens or not. Scopes feel different than hipfire even if you match the sens because the projection is much flatter and the aim feels more "2d", there is no way around that.

wet skiff
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our eyes are perceiving two different distortion amounts since you have changed your horizontal fov only.

going from 43 to 43 stretched you aren't changing the fov, though

devout tusk
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it does not matter what the game thinks

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you are seeing something different

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YOUR fov

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for YOUR EYES

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is changing

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as far as the game is concerned nothing has changed at all so you wouldnt even need to scale at all

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your y sens

wet skiff
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you would

devout tusk
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i cba man

wet skiff
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because the pixels for your x axis are wider now by 33%, and the game doesn't know you've stretched. So it'll feel faster in your x than in your y even though it's the same distance you are traveling

devout tusk
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PIXELS

cunning crane
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cheeky little diamond dub, fyi the bang was charge rifling

devout tusk
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bet walk believes in pixel skipping too

noble ether
quaint karma
dull falcon
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fps

noble ether
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wasnt sure but cool

dull falcon
quaint karma
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idk what to do with these

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theyre not really great clips

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but theyre kinda cool

torn oyster
vestal axle
noble ether
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Just wondering, I see a lot of people like aceu ect un-ads’ing towards the end of a beam like does it reset the bloom/recoil or sum?

alpine trail
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it doesn’t reset it, but you maintain higher accuracy for a short time after un-adsing

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idk how to explain well but you can just try in the range for yourself, most noticeable on flatline imo

cunning crane
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Un-ads'ing is powerful

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increases your strafe movement and keeps accuracy

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personally I'd like if they got rid of un-adsing

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make players have to choose between ads or hipfire

cunning crane
mellow kestrel
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💯

unborn token
lusty vault
unborn token
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💀

lusty vault
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Yes

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So I’m happy with this q

unborn token
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hopefully out of this pisshole today\

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just 1 game

fringe girder
lusty vault
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Should be pretty easy

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I feel like this map is extremely easy to play however you want

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Unlike other maps where you’re almost forced into certain situations

lethal wraith
unborn token
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NEED A GAMER FOR 1V1

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plz

unborn token
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more or so with the current ranked system tbh

lusty vault
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I think they need to go back to the hard af system

lethal wraith
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hard system rank was satisfying

unborn token
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season 13 first split

little verge
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They'll never go back to that system. It was legitimately hard to play for casuals so they all stopped playing ranked altogether.

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Respawn probably freaked out the second they saw the player retention for it.

unborn token
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unfortunately

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it would be good for ranked tho still

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but they kinda have to make ranked more competitive

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hoping realm will do smth abt that

lethal wraith
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soloq rank would be neat

cunning crane
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Loaaaaaads of sitting in corners and camping though

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Enemies who stay still for too long should be highlighted on the minimap in solo q ranked

lethal wraith
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oh I meant like, trios but you can only queue solo

unborn token
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someone please 1v1 me

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i need to warmup

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im so shit rn

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:_

torn oyster
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1v1s are honestly bad for warming up imo.
The best warm-ups are pubs.

wet skiff
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Best way to do it would be that you can trio up until diamond, after diamond it's pure solo queue. Keeps the casuals happy, and fixes all the mm issues that happen in diamond+. No more pro 3 stacks running through diamond lobbies.

Pros/streamers would hate it at first, but I bet they'd end up really liking it after a while especially if there are regular scrims(which they would have to take more seriously now) or that alternate third party ranked league they are proposing

dusky veldt
wet skiff
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I'm not sure what you are trying to show in that clip

dusky veldt
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look at the top of the screen

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it crashes my game if i move my mouse too much

wet skiff
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Are you using one of those 8000hz mice? Try setting your mouse polling rate to 250, then to 1k and see if it fixes it. Otherwise, i'd look for drivers / firmware updates for the mouse, or see if there's any other drivers you might have that could be causing interference. Unplug controllers as well, and check your mouse cables/wireless connectors

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make sure game is in fullscreen, and disable fullscreen optimizations for it, then you can also look at overriding dpi behavior, sometimes that fixes it, you'll have to google how though i can't recall off the top of my head what the correct settings are

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lastly, does the same thing happen in dx12 and dx11?

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or any other games?

dusky veldt
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im using the gpro superlight and all fullscreen optimizations are disabled i verifed the integrity and it doesnt happen in any other game all my drivers are up to date also

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i just switched the polling rate and its the same

wet skiff
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do you have a different mouse to test out?

dusky veldt
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yea ill try that

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it just got worse on my razer viper lmao

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more blur

wet skiff
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ok so at least you know it's not a hardware issue, it's something else. Maybe conflicting drivers or some software that's causing it. I'd uninstall all your device input drivers, then re-install them, as well as reinstalling apex and removing all your profile/settings and any cache that could be there. Could also do a graphic driver reinstall, may even be something dumb like that. Use DDU to uninstall that, then NVcleanstall to install your preferred driver if you're nvidia

dusky veldt
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i put on amd enhanced sync and that fixed it

dull falcon
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can someone teach me how to fight on apex

lusty vault
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Still the same issues as before?

torn oyster
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Wyatt. That's screen tearing at an extreme degree.
I'm glad you fixed it but it is a bandaid fix.
Just double check that windows don't need to update, and if you recently did updates, roll them back.

If you downloaded any apps such as overlays or apps that run in the background they could be incompatable.

lusty vault
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Lack of cover usage

torn oyster
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(Also why I would never run amd, to many problems)

wet skiff
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ya I really wanna run amd but they have so many driver issues

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I always end up getting intel or nvidia as a result

gentle mantle
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w break

wet skiff
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nice

gentle mantle
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pretty close to jade smooth bot

wet skiff
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I am jealous I just hit diamond

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still having trouble applying what I've learned into games, though. Feel like I rarely smooth track

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I have to like, turn off my brain completely and focus purely on trying to smoothly track, but as soon as I think about something else like positioning I revert back to my old shitty way of shooting

gentle mantle
quaint karma
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its literally just another skill to learn and master

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its not easy going from ads sens to hipfire and still being smooth and staying on target

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took me a while to learn

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why make the gameplay less deep

cunning crane
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I personally believe there's more skill in just ads or hipfire

lusty vault
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That doesn’t make any sense sadJAM

quaint karma
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im always happy when games have things to learn that can let me set myself apart from other players

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dont know why you wouldnt want that

lusty vault
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To be fair I don’t think it’s impactful at all

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Unless you’re at some weird mid range with an AR

alpine trail
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someone give me a good reticle color I lose this pink one constantly on WE

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or im just blind idk

quaint karma
lusty vault
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Yeah I haven’t played that much recently so I’m not sure how bad it really is

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Obly used the r3 a few times and it seemed alright

dull falcon
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like actually higscores matter but its bad to base your ability on it

lusty vault
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Master should be pretty attainable for @wet skiff

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Soon

wet skiff
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for kovaaks? I got a bit more to go lol

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lemme get to jade first before I worry about masters

lusty vault
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Are you relatively new?

wet skiff
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for apex I can hit masters ezpz I just needa go grind

lusty vault
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For kovaaks

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Is what I meant

cunning crane
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@wet skiff how many hours in kovaaks?

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it's powerful because you retain ads accuracy for about another 1 second (which is a low, 0, 0.1, 0,.2 and up etc)

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when hip firing except you can suddenly strafe fast

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whats your benchamrk?

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recoil control + positioning + awareness + in game knowledge such as the un adsing all make a big difference

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oh

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look around you xD

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that can happen

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but as a general rule

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if there are 3 squads in 1 area, including yours, it's stalemate, you don't want to push either of the other 2 because you'll be third partied

wet skiff
quaint karma
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🥶

wet skiff
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but not sure how much of that is recent, I tried a lot in the past and only got a tiny bit in

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don't worry, that's normal for Apex. Situational awareness is really hard with how spotty and unreliable sound is and the amount of visual clutter there is. I have trouble keeping aware of opponents even in 3v3s, when in other games I can keep track of players much better

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also a ton of mobility options that can make it difficult, especially when the sound doesn't work. Nothing much like having a player or squad land on top of you out of nowhere because horizon Q made no sound at all

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easy way for you to get good, find someone to IGL for you then just frag. If you got aim, ezpz

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(option B is plugging in a controller)

placid root
dull falcon
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how do i go about doing benchmarks again

lusty vault
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That’s all I do with the aimers

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Just IGL for fun

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I’d be down to play with some people in here

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And help

narrow tusk
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rank?

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@alpine trail im a little higher than that haha

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add me

lusty vault
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Whatever rank

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I have a million accounts

narrow tusk
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oh fs im new asf to kbm but i have the aim and game sense but all my friends quit apex

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still have a 2.6kd in ranked

wet skiff
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new to kbm and have good aim? how new

narrow tusk
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i grind walk

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60 hours on kovaaks

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that's a recentish clip

wet skiff
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i wouldn't call 5 months new anymore

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personally

narrow tusk
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i shit on people w years experience

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it's new

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i played controller for 10+ years for perspective

vague nexus
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plat btw

torn oyster
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Looking like Sao lobbies

unborn token
torn oyster
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Sao lobbies are 3 stack 700 preds who need to kill golds to get rp

lusty vault
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The beginning of that clip

wet skiff
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man just shaking his mouse left n right lol

lusty vault
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Gotta hit him at some point if we do that

unborn token
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shhhhhhhh

turbid condor
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😭

vague nexus
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you know how the lifeline package should give med when your team is low on meds and give attachments if you need attachments? its final circle and we are out of bats and cells, while our guns are pimped out and the thing lands giving us more gold mags bruh

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justice for lifeline mains

quaint karma
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@torn oysterwhen do you wanna do arena 100 streak

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was just playing 3stack pub arenas and just ran at the enemy team

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and its just

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so easy

narrow tusk
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until you face a cheater

lusty vault
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All the arena cheaters should be in ranked

quaint karma
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a single cheater is easily manageable

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with 3stack

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yeah

narrow tusk
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that's true

quaint karma
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well i see them in pubs too

narrow tusk
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but they won't be

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exactly

quaint karma
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but like unless theyre rage hacking

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which no one ever does

lusty vault
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You guys just want the badge?

quaint karma
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its doable

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well yeah idc otherwise

narrow tusk
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i want pred

quaint karma
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its a cool badge to have

narrow tusk
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true

lusty vault
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Ig

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I haven’t run a badge or a tracker for idk how long

narrow tusk
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pred arena is all cheaters though and new map is mid

quaint karma
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i just run this on wraith

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and on everyone else i just do my level badge

narrow tusk
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wraith my bitch

quaint karma
narrow tusk
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very clean

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i want her to get buffed and ill hit 10k on her

quaint karma
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she needs a buff badly

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shes terrible

narrow tusk
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yea only good for solo

quaint karma
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her portal needs to be on 2 minute timer or less

narrow tusk
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it needs something

quaint karma
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and her q needs to be quicker

narrow tusk
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or you should be able to chose when it closes

quaint karma
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well the cooldown on port is wAY too long

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like what

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ash has 1 1/2 minute

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on her ult

narrow tusk
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yea it's fucked up

quaint karma
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warith is like 4 or some shit

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3 1/2

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i forget

narrow tusk
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horizon feels faster and she's the best character in the game

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idek her time

quaint karma
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i think 3 1/2

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and its mostly useles

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s

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ash actually so good on broken moon

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for pushing

narrow tusk
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it should be a min 1/2 max

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really?

quaint karma
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yeah

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you just ult on their height

narrow tusk
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ill def try her when i play again

quaint karma
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and theres so much height

narrow tusk
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yea i like that though less people can int on you

quaint karma
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idk why wraith wont get a buff

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power creep is insane

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shes next to useless for anything but playing solo

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and even then

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her abilities arent super great

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cuz octane just chases you down

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or bh ult

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or they just run after you anyways and your q only lasts like 3 seconds lmao

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👍

lusty vault
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Was going through screenshots to try and find my banner but now I just want control back sad

quaint karma
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i miss control

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i was only playing control when it was on

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lol

hollow ravine
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does anyone have tracking routines?

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im in need

lusty vault
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Play mca-8

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High ground low ground and just normal

hollow ravine
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alr

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ty

lusty vault
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That’s just what I used to use to warm up

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I’m sure others have better playlists

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s-gamespecific

frozen narwhalBOT
hollow ravine
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:o

quaint karma
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all my playlists are too hard

torn oyster
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@quaint karma I'll be off soon.

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Got a third?

lusty vault
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I’d play but won’t be on for over an hour sad

quaint karma
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i was thinking more like tomorrow or the day after

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too tired today

lusty vault
quaint karma
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like im play ing rn anyways but def not performing at 100%

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and i dont wanna ruin streak

torn oyster
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Well if u want to run pubs for a bit bc that's what I'll be doing

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I'll get off work tomorrow around this time

dusky veldt
carmine viper
quaint karma
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dont wanna be rude but what am i looking for in that clip

vague nexus
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endangered species xd

wet skiff
torn oyster
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i have 1 clip that ive posted here before that looks like .6 on mnk from 200m

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or like 170

cunning crane
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Died to 3 fucking pread teams in a row, including EXO who competed and won games in ALGS! FFS MAN

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Why am I having to fight fucking pred teams and literal esports teams to get to diamond 3, what the fk is this shit?

wet skiff
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yea that's normal

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had to fight them all the way to masters last 2 splits

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basically, just pay attention to kill feed at start of game

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if you see pro team, run away from them until top 5, easy placement points

lusty vault
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Unfortunately apex has always had that issue d4+

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without it the queue times for high elo would be too high

wet skiff
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honestly they could fix all those issues by making ranked solo queue only

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one pro is good, but manageable. pro 3 stack is just unfair and impossible to play against unless they're literally trolling

quaint karma
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i ran into vaifs earlier

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in arenas

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on his roller account tho

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3 times in a row

lusty vault
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Im not against them trying the val method

quaint karma
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we shit on him tho beesive

cunning crane
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every time i get d4 it's just pred teams ffs

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this is the 3rd time this season I've been shat on by a literal esports team

lusty vault
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Yeah its unlucky for anyone thats legit diamond

carmine viper
quaint karma
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dont have a vod

carmine viper
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Then record it next times

quaint karma
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why

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i mean realistically

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he was beaming on roller

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i doubt hes any better on mnk

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i think he was playing with his gf

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alianne or something

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i checked if he was streaming but he wasnt

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he was 4 days ago on same acc with the same person

carmine viper
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How do you git gud enough to shit on alliance vaifs?

quaint karma
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3stack

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he was duo only

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i think

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idk for sure tho

carmine viper
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This season ive done worse 3 stacki g than solo qing. Where are the good 3 stacks

lusty vault
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Theres always LFG servers but you might be better off with people in here to be honest

burnt oxide
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Where to learn positioning?

carmine viper
#

The LFG servers like apex and battlecord 9 times out of 10 the people I find are never on their shit. And if they are on their shit, if you dont play perfectly you get dropped, even when you have good game

lusty vault
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Yeah i dislike the lfg servers heavily, the players are extremely toxic 99% of the time

burnt oxide
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Im so bad bruh 😭😭😭

lusty vault
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Fill pubs and make a constant effort to think about where youre standing and why

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Can they see me, can i be easily third partied, am i being wrapped on, do i have an out

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what ults are up

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you have to consciously think about these things until they become subconscious automatic thoughts

quaint karma
#

thats very good advice tbh

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also, you want to take away enemies space to play

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the less space they have

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the more angles you can take

burnt oxide
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Just eliminated whole squad

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Bo joke

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No*

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Good advice👍

quaint karma
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and angles win the game

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i think you can actually meaningfully practice taking space in arenas

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its really good for it

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just trying to go for off anglees

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angles

lusty vault
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Spacing is a massive part of the game, learning when to take it and when to give it

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I see a lot of players who dont know when to give up space

quaint karma
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yeah ik what you mean

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tbh i often sorta turn my brain off when playing pubs

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depends

lusty vault
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cant remember the last time i played pubs but i think its good to learn basics in

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so i always recommend it over ranked

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unless theyre trying to learn how to play end games

quaint karma
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personally i think pubs is incredibly hard

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like not to me anymore

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but i remember starting out

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i could barely hold a 1kd

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arenas was just much frindlier

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friendlier

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took me a good 3 seasons to get comfortable with pubs

lusty vault
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I coached prior to arenas existing and i never play it so it could be much better

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but id have to give it a try

quaint karma
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isnt this like

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ts

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id expect viscose to have a higher score here ngl

lusty vault
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probably doesnt play often

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or played once

cunning crane
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Idk who endagered species is but whenever he changes his name I know it's him

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love the names xD

quaint karma
#

🥶

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@little verge

quaint karma
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this is the goat scenario tbh

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idk why i havent played this

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its amazing for target acquisition and then staying smooth

carmine viper
#

any other good scenarios?

quaint karma
#

controlsphere\

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smoothsphere

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i like these 2

carmine viper
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already grind those 4

quaint karma
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also lately ive been thinking

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cfsi is VERY important

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so many fights are decided int hat range

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and roller players have an enormous advantage

carmine viper
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i grind that and the smaller versions

quaint karma
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i never did but i probably should

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try playing some rhomobus dodge

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rhombus

carmine viper
#

k

quaint karma
#

and this scenario

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is very good for learning how to track fast strafes

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ad spam basically

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which is a huge weakness for most mnk players

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you start ad spamming and they wont hit you

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even good players

wet skiff
quaint karma
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but roller will beam you

wet skiff
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WE HAVE REACTION TIMES

quaint karma
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idk im p good at it

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although i notice when im not warmed up it can be a struggle

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💀

wet skiff
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yea but are you better than 40% aimbot

quaint karma
#

i was playing against this horizon earlier

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i mean yesterday

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on NA

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roller player

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it was depressing

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and i realized i have to get on target faster and be more like

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like well, whatever flicker plaza practices

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seemed like a weakness

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maybe not a weakness but roller is just so good at it

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she was on target and beamed

wet skiff
#

yea. I'm not even good enough to get anything out of those scens yet

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by the time I'm on target before I even start tracking they've fucked off already lol

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OW is feeling like pretty good practice, though

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cus it's new to me so I can just really focus on trying to track smoothly

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I want that to be like, my "default" way of aiming

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something I just do naturally without thinking about it. So I figure I play OW for like 3 weeks, it becomes ingrained as a habit, then I try apex again and see if it sticks this time. Cus I keep reverting from that kind of aiming when I play apex

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then I can hopefully keep getting better mouse control and actually benefit from those tougher scens

quaint karma
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a lot of people practice smoothness but they dont practice being smooth while tracking reactively

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which is

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a different thing

wet skiff
#

yea I try to do both. I'm not quite smooth enough yet to make that stick, but I think I'm really close to being at the point where I can do that sort of tracking well

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I did notice that my reactive tracking scens aren't very smooth, even though the scores are ok, so I've been working hard on getting better

lusty vault
# quaint karma

i just booted up kovaaks to play this scenario and i got 2 runs in before my wrist wanted to end it

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so crazy i can play 12 hours straight of fps and have 0 issues and i play kovaaks for 2 minutes and pain

quaint karma
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fps games are a lot less aim intensive imo

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than kovaaks

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especially stuff like this

lusty vault
#

yeah but when it comes to time comparisons

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and then fatigue comparisons

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its not worth it for me personally

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everyone is different though

quaint karma
#

anyone wanna do 3500 here

wet skiff
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literally #1 nice

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i think I could get top 10 in that scenario personally

lusty vault
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i tried to snipe but the 1 run i did put me out of commission

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ill try again next year

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aye to almost tie his score when i havent played in a year

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ill take it

dull falcon
#

does the type of ssd you have effect anything

quaint karma
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is something wrong with your wrist?

lusty vault
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no issues until i play kovaaks

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or any aim trainer

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its why i never play them

little verge
# quaint karma 🥶

Pretty old score, not sure how I'd fare on it these days! I'll have to give it a go.

carmine viper
#

3 months since PB.

wet skiff
#

maybe that help?

lusty vault
#

Yeah idk I can completely avoid it by not playing aim trainers

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So it’s a win win for me

wet skiff
#

I mean.. for now

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why not be proactive and do a bit so it doesn't get worse?

torn oyster
#

once i find a god tier finger excerise that helps with my stiff fingers

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its over for everyone

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Astral complete type beat. (not really)

dull falcon
#

damn

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couldnt be me

torn oyster
#

arthritis is a pain to deal with

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8/10 fingers confirmed but that was 4 years ago

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i prob got it in all of them

quaint karma
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how does one get that

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too much roller?

torn oyster
#

nah.

dull falcon
#

playing claw and doing apex movement

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double claw tbh

torn oyster
#

technically smoking can develop it but

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repetitive activities like typing

dull falcon
#

whats yall wpm (speed typing)

torn oyster
#

as a kid i was always on social CC's in RS

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120-130 average

quaint karma
#

i got 155 on monkeytype

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like 2 years ago

dull falcon
#

wild

quaint karma
#

this is wild

torn oyster
#

i used to be so much faster

quaint karma
#

yeah i did it again recently like twice and got like 125

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i dont think ive slowed down

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who knows tho

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you just gotta get into the groove

torn oyster
#

i dont type as much since i dont play OSRS / RS

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its just apex

quaint karma
#

technically idont type as much as i used to

torn oyster
#

yeah im peaking at like 132 raw

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still not awful though.

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average typing speed in america is like 40-50 wpm

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The average typing speed is around 40 words per minute (wpm). If you want to be very productive, you should aim for a typing speed of 65 to 70 words per minute.

quaint karma
#

💀

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probably not in younger people

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although ik most people dont break 100]

torn oyster
#

its something you have to practice and do for years i feel like

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i feel like if you played any social game. maple story, runescape, ect.

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you're typing at 90+

dull falcon
#

i average like around 30-50( on agood day)

quaint karma
#

🥶

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i taught myself to touch type like a decade ago

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before that i was doing my own weird system

dull falcon
#

if there is weird characters i cant do it

torn oyster
#

i was going to play more apex but

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no cap i might go back to playing animal crossing

quaint karma
torn oyster
#

todays the last day on my GSRSE

quaint karma
#

what are you getting

torn oyster
#

skypad

quaint karma
#

the goat pad

torn oyster
#

comes in tomorrow

quaint karma
#

you sorta have to relearn smoothness on it tho

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it feels different

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to say the least

torn oyster
#

i got the white keyboard, mouse, and now mousepad.

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yeah so ive been told

dull falcon
torn oyster
#

im jumping into apex fundementals and doing smoothaim

quaint karma
#

i have a raiden mix and xsoft

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xsoft better imo

torn oyster
#

i love the gsrse but

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it dosent match the set up

dull falcon
#

im a hard pad person and i tend to push down on the mousepad only reason why i went for it

torn oyster
#

black/white setup

dull falcon
#

lowkey shoulda got a soft just for the new feeling

quaint karma
#

yeah it feels very much like a hard pad

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youll see

torn oyster
#

alright got skates from gwolf that are apparently really good on the skypad

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so im looking forward to trying them

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not doing glass skates on a glass pad, shits like air hockey at that point

quaint karma
#

that would damage the pad

dull falcon
#

i bought tiger ice in hopes for a skypad but im going to wait

#

they recommend ptfe feet or something for skypads

torn oyster
#

yh

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i got sum : >

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almost 24k. ill def be 25K+ by season end

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atleast thats the goal, i havnt played all that much this season

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most of my games are in ranked and ive only done like 150

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already passed lifeline in damage, just need 27.8k to pass kills

dull falcon
#

wawe ur so good

torn oyster
#

nah but ty

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by the end of next year, my plan is to be educational / entertainment VT team. but i need to actually do the kvk fundementals to even meet requirements

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i didnt start content creation till several months ago. so i have that to work on too. i dont make videos as of late but i did make one.

dull falcon
#

send it ill watch it

torn oyster
#

its just a minute long make apex look better kinda th ing

#

nothing special

quaint karma
#

whos the heaver smoker on taxis team

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mfs voice sounds like itll be gone by 40

dull falcon
#

i think people are 1v1ing i want to watch

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im proud of this average score

quaint karma
#

whomst tf

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maybe he just spent last night screaming or something

dull falcon
#

whats the issue>

quaint karma
#

actual shitter

dull falcon
#

not gon cap i need to go back to doing reactive scenarios

novel prism
#

reactive tracking is mentally straining

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i cant do it for that long

covert sentinel
#

i swear i've tried for weeks i still can't use the car over the r99

#

the recoil is so horizontal it throws me off

little verge
#

Just use recoil smoothing. It works best on SMGs anyways.

torn oyster
#

apex just tabbed me out mid fight

#

i love it here.

#

second time today

daring heath
#

How do I survive in plat lobby where there's people with pred badge running around

fair trellis
#

u dont in soloq

dull falcon
#

i will show some highlights of 800 dpi .9 sens on r5 tomorrow if i remember

gentle mantle
#

You play 800dpi and.9 sens

cunning crane
# quaint karma actual shitter

lots of people have this mindset, not necessarily outright cheating but the idea of manipulating badges they can show off, I came across a 3 stack before who were letting only 1 guy try to get all the kills to try and get him a 20 bomb. Lots of people also make new accounts to get 4ks and 20bombs in the literal bot lobbies at the start

#

and the amount of people i've come across with 4k 20 bomb badges who are simply just bad at the game, or decent but not good enough, there's lots of manipulation

carmine viper
#

Anyone remember when people played for fun and not play for badges/stat chasing?

#

Wait that was never the case with Apex

quaint karma
lusty vault
#

Even if they average it

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What will the brackets look like

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I’m guessing no change

frigid bramble
#

@torn oyster got any clips ?🐐

torn oyster
#

Like what?

frigid bramble
#

hmmmmmmmmmmmmmmmmmmmmmmm

#

smooth tracking? 😍

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love me some smooth aim assist lookin ass aim hehehehe

torn oyster
#

I can see if I have some.

frigid bramble
#

oooooooooooooo weeee excited

torn oyster
#

Not really smooth aim but long range tracking

frigid bramble
#

ohhhhhhh that was so clean

torn oyster
frigid bramble
#

its like youre teasing his freedom then he got slammed 🤣

torn oyster
#

Potential wallers

frigid bramble
#

love that shit good stuff wawe 💯 💯

torn oyster
#

Kind of beating a dead horse but one of my best tracks in awhile

frigid bramble
#

nah to do that at such a distance is fuckin skill...

torn oyster
#

They're not all that great but thanks.

frigid bramble
#

nah theyre pretty goated. ive just moved to high sens so im missing smooth tracking right about now😔

tepid salmon
frigid bramble
#

currently using 800dpi 2.8

torn oyster
#

I ment the other two. I beat a dead horse bc I like showing that one off

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Everything else is your standard "I did a thing" moment

tepid salmon
#

Ah alright

torn oyster
#

I had a lot more clips but that hard drive for archive is gone

frigid bramble
torn oyster
#

Lost the entire drive

tepid salmon
#

F

#

I wish clips weren’t so storage intensive

frigid bramble
#

sorry for the spam

tepid salmon
#

Might be skill issues cause I clip alot tho

torn oyster
#

800 2.8 though.

I could never.

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I'm still 400 2.4

tepid salmon
#

1600 0.6

gentle mantle
#

Sens?

frigid bramble
frigid bramble
tepid salmon
#

Used to play on like 60cm/360 lol

frigid bramble
#

besides warzone actually that was my first time ever doing warzone and i actually slapped at that, got a highlights video of that on yt, good tracking there

gentle mantle
#

You lose so much tho with super high sens

#

Like I play 28cm/360

frigid bramble
#

but warzone felt easy to do with high sens. apex on the other hand..

gentle mantle
#

Pretty high but top of reactive range

torn oyster
#

Tbh. I would do 800 2.0
And gradually go up

#

2.8 is kinda up there

frigid bramble
#

so the satisfaction of me hitting a tracking clip gets me like whaaaaaaaaat no way i hit that

gentle mantle
#

But what advantages is there of going so high why make it difficult?

frigid bramble
#

where as my 800 1.2 clips i like yeah sweet, got a clip

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as i said, jus way more rewarding when you hit a clip

torn oyster
#

Yeah, you're only handicapping yourself

#

Tbh

#

Go fast sens all you want but

#

800 2.8 doesn't really help with that

frigid bramble
#

also a lot less effort IF you get it down pat, and i also sometimes have problem trying to play my fast pace play style on such a low sens idk but normal stuck like turning around and flicking and blah blah blah im having to throw my whole fuckin arm across the room and then my arm gets pretty tense and if i have to shoot directly after that then my aim isnt as smooth as id like it to be n mostly end up dying hahaha

#

yah. probably is a handicap. i jus feel like it fits the play style that i want to have and feels super rewarding to me🤷 . this is Day 1 though, and its my first time playing games in 2.5 months. ill probably rage on high sens n go back to slow😂

gentle mantle
#

Haha perhaps, you do whatever makes u feel good and interested

frigid bramble
#

haha, yeaaa. i also have heard tho that training on a high sens is very beneficial for your aim. learning to control shakiness etc. its even a command on this discord server im pretty sure

quaint karma
#

idk roller players literally play on sens so slow they can barely turn

#

only makes sense to emulate that

#

its rewarding enough to play raw input rather than having the game literally aim for you

echo inlet
#

why can't i improve at static? does it matter at all?

quaint karma
#

dont think so

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but id try to at least get it to diamond

#

if you only practice tracking in kovaaks you never learn target acquisition

echo inlet
quaint karma
#

if you miss close range with roller you dont have hands

#

thats what i think

#

but bad mnk players are also bad

#

so why do only roller players get assistance

#

seems like a weird double standard

#

respawn just doesnt care at all about balancing

#

would roller players leave the game if mnk had slight bullet magnetism?

#

i doubt it

#

i kinda think that even without rotational AA it is probably easier to get good at close range roller

#

than mnk

#

cuz every move you make is smooth

#

inherent to the input

torn oyster
#

Even apexs best controller user thinks it should be nerfed.

#

Aka genburten

quaint karma
#

thats not an even

#

good roller players know its busted

#

just bad players dont

torn oyster
#

Which is 90% of roller players

quaint karma
#

and most of the 'decent' players also dont seem to know

#

they think their aim is their own

#

its really not

torn oyster
#

I stand by this. Idc how good roller is, I'm still bad with it

quaint karma
#

was playing 3stack arenas yesterday

#

had to charge my mouse

#

plugged in the roller and consistently shit on this pred path

#

💀

#

it shouldnt be like that

torn oyster
#

Going to have to give me a bit to get used to skypad before I even think about doing anything else

#

I think I hop in kvks for an hour or so and get used to it.

quaint karma
#

might take a few weeks

#

but the easier microadjustments while tracking should be immediately apparent

#

that can also be a detriment tho if your mouse control isnt there

#

cuz you might just make movements you dont wanna make

#

but the resistance of your pad stopped you before

#

all in all tho i dont think theres an enormous difference between different pads

#

although some people disagree

torn oyster
#

I've heard both sides and a pad is a pad. Some are faster than others.
I've always used slow pads

#

I'm eager to use it though

dull falcon
dull falcon
#

this is someone else opinion i want to see urs

torn oyster
#

This man sounds like his desk is filthy then.
Prob eats at his desk

#

And any pad will eventually eat ur feet. It's called wear and tear.

quaint karma
#

its true, if theres dust or hair on your pad youll feel it immediately

#

happens maybe once an hour

#

but its not really

#

important lol

#

and anyway, doesnt happen with uhmw tape on your feet

fringe girder
#

play no pad

torn oyster
#

Oh for sure. I tend to keep my area clean clean though. So that issue won't occur as much.

#

I'll just keep a soft cloth near my pc

#

I prepped and got rid of the stock feet on my hts with the new feet.

#

I don't think I've used stock feet that were actually Good on any mouse I've owned

dull falcon
#

god stock feet at first feel scratchy

#

but they feel less scratchy after likea week or two

torn oyster
#

I dropped 20g from glorious to hts and that was a bit of a learning curve but only took a day or so for it to feel comfortable

#

I went back to use glorious for the giggles and I was thrown off by how heavy it was lol

dull falcon
#

is there a controlsphere scenario thats kinda like reactive also

quaint karma
#

apex casuals are a special kind of stupid

quaint karma
#

try this playlist

#

i think one or 2 of them are like that

#

not a controlsphere scenario but a lot like it

#

and more reactive

dull falcon
#

i was on ☺️r5 yesterday and that controlsphere felt reallly good

wet skiff
quaint karma
#

LMFAO

spice ruin
#

do you guys think is better to play arena of battle royale to record apex vods for review

#

mostly gonna be an aim review

dull falcon
#

doesnt it feel weird

cunning crane
unborn token
gentle mantle
unborn token
light apex
#

anyone here that wants to play with me and help me get a 4k please 🙂

gentle mantle
unborn token
quaint karma
edgy crane
cunning crane
#

if you look at the health he missed every shot xDD

steel karma
#

any1 tryna 1v1

#

kinda bored

#

omw to get diamond in the most mid region of all

#

NA

vague nexus
#

i have never been carried this hard

#

like, i was doing my thing, but these guys just w key plowed trough the lobby

#

this is like heirloom level rarity of teammates

lusty vault
#

TTV

cunning crane
#

hacks maybe

#

almost got 10-10-10

#

or maybe they were just using cheats

#

aim assist* sorry auto correct

alpine trail
#

How does anything there signify cheats lmao

#

Its pubs

cunning crane
#

I said maybe

#

people cheat in pubs too

#

I didn't say definitely

#

'lmao'

vague nexus
#

path has like 86k kills

#

i think he would have been cought by now

vague nexus
devout tusk
#

also he didnt, he did 50 damage to you

torn oyster
#

I'm really enjoying the blitz plugin

#

Or overlay rather

#

Idk how accurate it's stats are for weapon kills but it's interesting to see

cunning crane
dull falcon
#

just got my hair done shit is hurting my head

devout tusk
cunning crane
devout tusk
#

oh wait you upgraded

#

lmao

#

why is the shield color that color but the upgrade is pink

cunning crane
#

idk

devout tusk
#

ye my b, i havent used colorblind mode since like season 3 so didnt know those were the colors

#

regen indicator was 100% asspull also lmaooo

cunning crane
dull falcon
#

i needa software to record me playing r5 outplayed doesnt work'

weak dust
devout tusk
cunning crane
quartz perch
dull falcon
#

wtf

devout tusk
fringe girder
#

i queued into EU after playing with an EU friend in pubs and saw that guy in feed earlier today lmao

hallow fable
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when are you home

dull falcon
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i need help with this one

hallow fable
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the goblins are waiting

vague nexus
devout tusk
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just keep grinding it

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youll get it eventually

dull falcon
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whats the key to this

devout tusk
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you have to get a feel for the bots vertical movement and just do that automatically while reacting to their horizontal curving

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your arc should be one smooth movement

dull falcon
devout tusk
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i dont think its bad to start out that way, its not like you cant do that in game when someone jumps

dull falcon
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there is this one scenario on that kovaaks dlx its really cool i think

gentle mantle
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i forgot to hold left click

wet skiff
gentle mantle
torn oyster
alpine trail
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oh sahit i got my first heirloom shards

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after 14k games

gentle mantle
gentle mantle
alpine trail
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wraith

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knife

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insta buy

wet skiff
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grats. I'm real close to mine, gonna get octane knife 100%

gentle mantle
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cleanest heirloom for sure

alpine trail
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havent played apex for weeks and i was jsut goona see how a few games go

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got pack and boom

gentle mantle
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now you gonna be hooked 😄

alpine trail
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that melee animation after emptying my clip and finishing with the stap inn the face

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i came

quaint karma
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today is a terrible aim day

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but then i realized

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i literally have jet lag

unborn token
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@quaint karma +80 rp bro

quaint karma
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i moved my sleep schedule like

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8h

unborn token
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Love this game

quaint karma
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in 2 days

quaint karma
unborn token
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Lmfao

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D3 gaming

quaint karma
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do you have a thidr for that arenas thing @unborn token

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can definitely run ranked arenas tomorrow or the day after

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idk how ill perform tomorrow but should be better than today 💀

unborn token
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Aight bet

quaint karma
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even console players despise how small the skillgap on roller is

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so they run bang

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💀

unborn token
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Bro explained an entire legend

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In one comment

vague nexus
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i rez my teammate and he just stands afk instead of running, like bruh the game isint over till its over

quaint karma
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dont expect anything from randoms

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especially in pubs

unborn token
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@quaint karma+134

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on top4

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fuck man

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