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#apex
teal moth
Good luck getting 6.66 kdr in ranked
You wont find enough ppl to kill on this shit map
idle warren
what do u guys think of nvidia reflex? does it have a big advantage? bc if not im sticking to buy amd 6600xt
sharp nova
yes
reflex is a big diff from no reflex
but amd has their own equivalent
not sure how they compare but id imagine similarly
fringe girder
dont matter i was like VT silver-gold and was already masters in apex for a few seasons
before
dawn burrow
where can i find apex voltaic routine?
wet skiff
yea especially for apex. Aim matters ofc but there's a lot of other important factors like macro, teamwork, positioning, and decision making that are going to give you better results than just insane raw aim. You don't really need great aim, for example, if you're always playing zone from a power position just shooting players with a scout to farm up your shields and steal knocks while other teams are fighting. That's kinda boring and you'll still lose to teams rolling up on you but it's an easy way to maintain positive RP.
torn oyster
My aim was a trocious yesterday and I still managed to average 3.5k damage in control as well as managed to squeeze out a win in diamond.
Aim is a big factor sure but I agree, many many factors come into effect.
wet skiff
I'm d3 atm. My regular squad plays pretty sparsly, like once every few days. I made masters last split. Anyone here looking to grind to masters or play more regularly? I'd like to hit masters again this split
I'm not the best but I'm improving all around, actively working on getting better, and am pretty chill and no raging or anything.
torn oyster
People are just playing so weird this season on top of ranked just being in a awful state
wet skiff
Agreed. Seer + controller meta is pretty tough.
torn oyster
I'm like borderline d3 into d2 (again) and there's like a week and some change left.
wet skiff
Uncapped rank kp was definitely a mistake as well, it's really weird and I'm not a fan
torn oyster
I know I'll eventually get it but I'm just cutting it close.
I've significantly cut down my apex time this season
wet skiff
Yea that's why I'm worried I can't hit masters with my regular squad, just cus they are barely playing. I could try solo queuing but it's kinda a crapshoot, I prefer duo at least
lament raven
but amd has their own equivalent
wait, what do they call it?
idle warren
but amd has their own equivalent
amd anti lag and amd radeon boost both suck
sharp nova
wait, what do they call it?
^
sharp nova
amd anti lag and amd radeon boost both suck
unlucky
idle warren
might have to get a 2060 super or 3060
sharp nova
do you have any performance data for them in comparison? curious to see how much worse they are
lament raven
gonna see where prices are in a year or two before i upgrade my build
especially with intels new line entering the market
quaint karma
lol
was like 1v10ing all game
since no team
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idk thought this looked cool https://streamable.com/ekdcmy
dusky summit
wet skiff
that's the kinda tracking I been practicing for
one day that'll be me. I only get it sometimes rn
wet skiff
champion actually looks interesting, they should've released this trailer first
plus getting seer get shit on was nice. Fuck that champion. Maybe he dies and gets deleted from the game
little verge
Purple, pink, green, all work good.
wet skiff
#FF00FF I guess is better way
night plume
i guess pink isnt the greatest since i have purple outline colors
wet skiff
well fuck you how dare you insult pink
quaint karma
wet skiff
pink is the greatest
night plume
oh ok
wet skiff
nice. I've noticed I hit way better with the wingman if I try to treat it like a tracking weapon instead of flicking it.
that's the first one I put
wet skiff
max red 0 green max blue
night plume
im just braindamaged
wet skiff
lmao
but I think that's just because I'm better at tracking than flicking, one of the reasons I'm here practicing my aim on kovaaks lul
dull falcon
nice. I've noticed I hit way better with the wingman if I try to treat it like a...
aint that how u do dynamic clicking?
quaint karma
nice. I've noticed I hit way better with the wingman if I try to treat it like a...
yes thats what youre meant to do
wet skiff
I see a lot of people flick the wingman, glad to know I've been doing it right, at least
I spent so much time practicing recoil smoothing that my flicking/clicking fell way behind my tracking, backwards from most other players
wet skiff
though I wasn't really able to apply that to smoothly tracking a target until recently. So glad to be seeing improvement
quaint karma
i can whiff a wingman mag and then switch to car and oneclip the guy
it happens
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dull falcon
though I wasn't really able to apply that to smoothly tracking a target until re...
i dont think when i play apex aiming iust happens on its own
wet skiff
yea my wingman is super inconsistent on a day to day basis. Some days my wingman absolutely fucking slaps, other days I may as well nade myself and have a higher chance of damaging an opponent lol
dull falcon
which is why i feel like i dont make progress
wet skiff
That's what you're supposed to do with aiming - put it in the back of your mind and set it to autopilot, then think instead about ingame stuff like positioning and what your opponent is doing
dull falcon
i have a wingman clip let me find it
quaint karma
dude i love control
wet skiff
I struggled with that for a long time because adhd makes it harder to go into autopilot mode than normal people, so I was trying really hard to focus on aim and couldn't focus on anything else, or the other way around, I tried focusing on other stuff and suddenly my aim was non-existent . And ofc because of ADHD I couldn't focus on either really even when I tried so I was just going in circles lol
quaint karma
i notice that when im really unfocused or tired
my aim can be way worse
like a good step down
idk why that happens
wet skiff
Yea that's likely cus you can't focus on the game at all. Even with your aim on autopilot if you aren't focusing on tracking the target with your eyes cus you're tired you won't hit them
or distracted. You aren't thinking about positioning and stuff and are reacting slower to opponents, as well, so you are likely caught at disadvantage or slow to react and then have to panic or rush your shots so you have even more trouble
dull falcon
but i fond if im not conscious ab it im not applying my kovaaks experience
wet skiff
I can't help you there, I'm still working on that myself. I think it's just practice and breaking old habits, so takes time. Especially something like smoothly tracking an opponent
random thistleBOT
Stop breaking things! :C
dull falcon
since i do kovaaks shorter and apex for a longer time i feel that it might override my kovaaks practice
if i am on apex with bad habits for like 4 hrs or something then that hour of kovaaks will feel useless
wet skiff
if you're trying to improve smooth tracking maybe do a few minutes of smooth tracking scenarios between every couple of hours of apex just to reinforce that and look for it
quaint karma
since i do kovaaks shorter and apex for a longer time i feel that it might over...
doubt
i barely play kovaaks
wet skiff
yea I doubt you're losing experience, most likely you're just not practiced enough yet to apply it automatically all the time. I've been playing fps for 10 years without practicing my aim so I have a lot of bad habits I need to work on breaking, such as crutching my movement to help my aim
dull falcon
nah strafes help sometimes with the adjustment to crosair placement , mirror strafes be hitting different
wet skiff
I definitely feel you, though, I'm struggling with same things. Especially crutching movement, I think that's going to take me a really long time to break. I rely on my movement to correct my aim instead of using my movement to remain hard to hit and using my aim to correct for that movement. There's times when it's ok to mirror an opponent but I used it as a crutch for a long time
quaint karma
strafeaiming is an important skill
i do it a lot
and especially at longer ranges as well
you can give yourself extra smoothness by just moving in the same direction as they do
wet skiff
I agree. But if you crutch it, you don't improve then struggle when you can't afford to crutch it. It's not a one size solution fits all
If you have a huge HP advantage in a 1v1 then it's great, for example, but if you're in a potential 1v2 it's definitely better to focus on using your movement to position in a way to LOS 1 opponent while reducing your damage taken instead of trying to mirror and HP trade, you'll never have a chance vs the second opponent because you'll be out of cover/position AND making yourself easy to hit for both opponents
also great at longer range or if an opponent isn't actively focusing you. So using it isn't bad, but crutching it and relying on it to hit your shots definitely can be, and that's what I was doing. Nothing but mirroring to try and hit my opponents because I wasn't confident in my aim, which in turn led to me having terrible positioning and doing nothing but HP trades in all my fights
I've been using control to try and work on it, and when I get it right, it lets me 1v2 or even 1v3 sometimes. I still get it wrong most of the time but it's good to know that my aim training is paying off because I don't feel like I have to crutch mirroring my opponent in every fight now
dull falcon
yall got a any smoothness scens that isnt just purely horizontal,i just want to get used to other mouse movements
quaint karma
controlsphere
fringe girder
they made it that if you derank from like diamond and end the split in plat1 ur still getting diamond rewards??
night plume
its ur peak rank
quaint karma
they made it that if you derank from like diamond and end the split in plat1 ur ...
its always been that way
fringe girder
didnt know that
because ive never experienced the deranking yet
saw people say it
dull falcon
they made it that if you derank from like diamond and end the split in plat1 ur ...
ytes
@proven pulsar when ever u see this should i move on to the next level or keep going to max out
proven pulsar
I'd try to get the graduation score in at least half those scenarios before moving to the next one
(the blue score that is)
Only as a high score tho cba to deal with average
dull falcon
this one is pretty hard
torn oyster
they made it that if you derank from like diamond and end the split in plat1 ur ...
If you hit Plat in split one
And hit diamond split 2
You'll get diamond rewards.
If u end the split in Plat splits 1 and 2. You'll get Plat rewards.
wet skiff
if you end both in diamond/masters, your badge glows or something
torn oyster
It's animated yeah.
native nimbus
who plays control are legit bots
gentle mantle
any proficient ras strafers here?
wet skiff
bro I just made my aim a good chunk more consistent. Turns out I had some scope specific sens multipliers left in there from like s0 when there was some sens bug
there's still technically a minor bug but now you can get 1:1 uniform aiming with scope sens 1.009258, so 1.0 is basically perfect and functional and imperceptible
dawn burrow
GUYS
wet skiff
SUP
dawn burrow
should i play apex and do kovaaks routine first or vice versa
wet skiff
it doesn't matter. I like to do a few runs of tracking throughout the day to remind myself to stay smooth
dawn burrow
🖐🏼
dull falcon
i hate mfs who dont play zone in drop off
i cant play raanked arenas man
like its so fustrating
weird as mmr system weird point sytem , horrible matchmaking and a ppl who exploit
wet skiff
yea arenas is shit this is known
dull falcon
what is that strafe?
dull falcon
raw input or cfg?
silver seal
why would u need a cfg for a ras strafing 😭
native nimbus
is it even possible? the movement is kinda hard to put into a cfg no?
wet skiff
there's a config that spams ras strafing that's actually insane
silver seal
Yea that's neo/meme strafing
wet skiff
oh yea idk why I got the mconfused
silver seal
Ras strafing is the foundation for neo strafing
dull falcon
mfs come up with anything and add strafe after it and they use configs
ive seen like 3-4 weird ass strafe names
silver seal
With a cfg it lets u stack more lurches
dull falcon
i understand lurch and stuff
mellow kestrel
imagine if control matchmaking actually tried to make the teams balanced
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one team is always 50% sweats (minimum) while other team is only bots except for like 1-2 ppl
carmine viper
Is there a bug where jump master cant dive and just floats in the air?
devout tusk
Theyre way more balanced this time than the last 3 controls
Where it was 1 sweat and 17 bots
dull falcon
how do i convince my friend that 1000 dpi and 1.7 sens is bad on apex bc he has no aim
wet skiff
that's not that bad for apex
just convince him to do a bit of practice for aim training and it'll catchup
dull falcon
he dont like kovaaks too much either
candid wolf
anyone know how to make my game stop feeling so sluggish
i get like 200 fps (capped at 144 with rtss for my monitor) but i feel like im running in mud
wet skiff
all graphics lowest settings, reflex enabled. Go to nvidia control panel and make sure everything is set for performance. If you use GSYNC, cap your FPS at 3 below your monitors refresh rate, so 141
Make sure you are on fullscreen as well, and if you have multiple monitors with different refresh rate, turn off all hardware acceleration or close/minimize everything so you see nothing but desktop on the other two monitors. There's a bug with nvidia that's been around for years that can cause your monitors to sync to whichever has the lowest refresh rate if there's a window with an animation or program with hardware acceleration on that monitor(discord included)
Lastly, using MSI afterburner/RTSS, monitor both your CPU and GPU usage and make sure it's below 90% at all times. If it goes higher, you might get input lag even with high / stable frames. You can also use afterburners built in overclock feature if you haven't overclocked at all. It's 1 button press and it does all the OC checking and stability stuff that you'd normally do manually for you, full auto. Very good imo. Then if your processor isn't overclocked, do that as well. Free performance!
If you're experiencing stutters, try using display driver uninstaller to uninstall your current drivers, then use NVCleaninstall to install 516.94 version - it's the most stable driver for Apex that I know about.
That's everything I can think of. Good luck
candid wolf
Should I use gsync
wet skiff
It's up to you, afaik there's no added input delay so there's no reason to not use it. It's all benefits to the absolute best of my knowledge.
Some people say to use VSYNC with it(in nvidia control panel, use FAST setting) but it makes no difference as long as you are FPS capped at 141 fps for your 144 hz monitor.
candid wolf
Yeah I've been getting a lot of input lag and stuttering in game and it's been super frustrating
And really bad movement lag it feels
Like all my timings for wall bounces and superglides feel delayed and I am deadsliding a ridiculous amount
And my slide jumps feel like they are slowing me down not speeding me up
wet skiff
I guess you can also check your monitors settings, most have a response setting that can be adjusted
That sounds like internet lag based on what you're describing. Are you experiencing packet loss, unstable ping, or high ping? Make sure you have netstats enabled. I've been getting placed on high ping servers a lot lately and that messes with movement a lot
candid wolf
My ping is steady at 30 and it says I have no packet loss
wet skiff
no idea then. I guess try the things I typed out and hope for the best, that's all I got lol
devout tusk
Should I use gsync
its the only game i use it for and its a big improvement imo
slate gull
big clipdump
proven pulsar
devout tusk
charge rifle? deserved
wet skiff
yea honestly completely deserved for touching that chrage rifle at all
oak veldt
https://streamable.com/4qjbbt
you make it look so easy
carmine viper
If you're experiencing stutters, try using display driver uninstaller to uninsta...
Using DDU then NVcleanstall to 516.94 gave me highest and smoothest FPS but stutters still existing. stuttering happens in the firing range as well. zero stutter in R5 so this certainly cant be a hardware issue.
devout tusk
my aim is feelin rather assisted
quaint karma
decent ig
for a few minutes i legit didnt get a kill
hit people for like 170 and they disappeared or got stolen
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scarlet sparrow
what are the best scenarios to get your wingman better
i play waveshot but any other scenes that are fundementally better
devout tusk
Popcorn for me
wet skiff
fuck, why you do this to me. I hate popcorn with a burning passion 😦
wet skiff
you don't think clicking scenarios could help with things like pathing? Accurate flicks are still really useful even for tracking heavy games like apex, lets you get on target quicker and more accurately, no?
devout tusk
Wym pathing
Popcorn is good to me cause it trains reading and timing
More than like bounceshot
And they are somewhat realistically sized targets
stray valley
wet skiff
pathing like, you spot a target and draw a straight line with your mouse there instead of making a loopy S on the way lol. Or you don't overshoot and have to correct backwards, instead you land on or undershoot the target and correct in the same direction.
devout tusk
Oh i do loopy s aiming exclusively
I aim like a rubber band is connecting enemy and my crosshair lmao
wet skiff
I vod reviewed a friend and his target swapping wasn't straight lines at all and he would sometimes circle the target on micro-adjustments
So pathing practice would dramatically help him for example. Helped me a ton too I think
but still a work in progress lol
dull falcon
im not playing in diamond lobbies
wet skiff
If you have MSI afterburner, there is a 1 click button for it. I would highly recommend MSI afterburner, it is the single best GPU tool on the market. It comes packaged with Rivatunerstatistics that'll display anything about your cpu/gpu that you set it too, and you can use it to frame limit your games or draw a crosshair.
You don't have to do anything for MSI afterburner besides hit that OC button and give it a few minutes, and it's really solid for getting your card in a spot that's stable but still better than base clocks by a mile.
dull falcon
so uh are we getting the custom lobbies in season 15 or no?
lethal wraith
https://streamable.com/ea9m06
ayy a snuggle wallbounce
stray valley
Yeah I've been getting pretty good at doing them off those doors
torn oyster
Apparently yes. But it's all speculation
wet skiff
bro I have like a legit mental block for using the PK, I don't get it at all. Why can't I click on players when that gun is equipped lmao
proven pulsar
bro I have like a legit mental block for using the PK, I don't get it at all. Wh...
Do 1v1s PK only until you get used to it
Same happened to me when I started using it
IMO it has a bit of a weird timing or something like that. Once I got used to it I started hitting hard though
wet skiff
I've been trying to use it for like 1k hours lol
ik it's best to aim at the torso and be chill on the followup but there's legit just like a mental block I have where I get nervous when I pick it up and instead of aiming I just don't.
torn oyster
I find myself better not ads at close range than using ads.
I'll ads if I'm walking up on someone or using momentum to get to them.
It would be a lie if I said I didn't struggle using it.
I can't use mozams with 1x. But 2x no problem
Or falling. It'd best to not always try and get that choke off at a moments notice. It's lost time
river axle
Hello, I just got past 1000 hours (on apex) and my aim still sucks, I started doing voltaic a week ago and I was wondering how long it should take to see decent improvement (i'm iron rn)
torn oyster
Depends on how much effort you put in.
It won't happen over night and it's just a gradual improvement overtime. I wouldn't rush it and go at your own pace.
Practice before your gaming sessions for atleast 20 minutes
quaint karma
Hello, I just got past 1000 hours (on apex) and my aim still sucks, I started do...
at iron level you should notice quick improvement
river axle
gotcha, thanks a lot
turbid condor
stray valley
:D
torn oyster
the only good thing here is r99 3030
half bramble
can someone tell me a sens u have had success with, ik it’s all about mouse control and not “muscle memory.” I can play any sens but I still really haven’t found a sens that I feel the best on. thanks
wet skiff
someone explain why I hit new high scores in kovaaks, and can't hit a shot ingame. On my days I suck in kovaaks, I login to apex and fry the shit out of ppl lmlao
night plume
hate how far i am from the best apex server
for me
i be getting 60-90 ping and lagging while my normal ping is like 19 for a speed test
north midwest is out of luck
wet skiff
yea something with apex is def fucked up it places me in servers I have no business belonging in
I get so many 100 ping games when I should be at aroudn 20-24 ping in my east coast servers
night plume
the best server for me is st louis apparently and i live in minnesota
😭
45 ping bro!
cuz thats definitely right
then i pop into a game
bam 90 ping
apex servers are so dogass
hate how i play this game
wet skiff
yea that's cus it's not placing you in st louis. They changed something, it barely prioritizes ping rn. The game quality is awful as a result
carmine viper
Hello, I just got past 1000 hours (on apex) and my aim still sucks, I started do...
Started voltaic the beginning of this year and I am 12 energy away from Jade, but my aim is still garbage. Better than before, yes, but not consistent enough to where I am satisfied yet.
river axle
hmmm I see
carmine viper
There are very good apex players who are just silver gold plat etc
night plume
ngl i feel like im dogass at apex
like my aim is fine but my movement feels so stiff
idk what it is
night plume
can u still do that even
im so outdated with movement
i can only wb and superglide
wet skiff
learn superglide + tapstrafe to start with, and practice the 2 second slide rule(4 seconds after superglide) and that's really all you need. You can have great movement just knowing all that
ras strafing and other stuff is mostly a meme you'll get fried by controllers most of the time if you try them
I also use auto-sprint and have a "hold to walk" button instead to make movement a bit smoother. Takes a bit getting used to using semi auto's or shotguns, though
night plume
do you happen to have any guides for superglide tapstrafe
i use toggle sprint
hated it at first
but im used to it now
proven pulsar
ras strafing and other stuff is mostly a meme you'll get fried by controllers mo...
isnt ras strafe the only actually useful movement tech
or well it used to be on gibby meta
wet skiff
yea it was good for gibby bubble fights
but doesn't do much vs controller unless you're bubble fighting lol the movement isn't far enough to get out of aim assist bubble
it'll track you without any input from the controller player
stray valley
If used properly it 100% breaks aim assist
wet skiff
how do yall remain consistent with your aim? Mine is so all over the place on a day to day basis, the swings are completely wild.
like on my good days for smoothsphere easy I'm getting almost 70% accuracy, today I can barely get 50%. And it shows a lot in game, too. It's making it so hard to feel confident in my aim
little verge
People are inconsistent. Food, sleep, and so many things affect us on the daily level.
mellow kestrel
If used properly it 100% breaks aim assist
its def nice against roller players sometimes
just not against good mnk players
dodging against roller the goal is pretty much to just shake off the AA
little verge
I just can't be assed to learn movement tech for a game I barely play.
Also I think there must have been 3 Wattsons fencing B in that last control match, just a billion fucking fences lol
tepid salmon
like on my good days for smoothsphere easy I'm getting almost 70% accuracy, toda...
I think its just as Yaki has said, its normal to be inconsistent, and exactly thats what differentiates pro‘s for example from non pro players, I generally think getting rid of the „bad day“ „good day“ mindset was a huge step for myself
little verge
Well, let's not get too carried away. There's definitely bad days. It just so happens that all of them occur the day I choose to boot up Apex at all.
tepid salmon
Well, let's not get too carried away. There's definitely bad days. It just so ha...
Well obviously, but not thinking about all the bad and goof day stuff helped myself alot
Probably sounds stupid though
minor root
you can use the bad day and good day thing as motivation
on the bad days think to yourself im gonna improve myself so my worst performance is gonna be good
and on the good days you also think to yourself im gonna be the best that i can be
at least thats what i do
tepid salmon
Yeah, I agree, it can backlash though thats what I mean
minor root
yeah i think the most important thing tho is just not using a bad day as an excuse for a bad performance
tepid salmon
True, once you cope with that shit it‘ll turn into a habit
If you can make use of bad performance to get yourself motivated and to improve its great tho ngl, just hard to do imo
wet skiff
ya I guess my bad days are just so noticeably low atm that it's a bit too much. Maybe with more time and practice my bad days will still be "good enough" so I can do well in game
tepid salmon
ya I guess my bad days are just so noticeably low atm that it's a bit too much. ...
Just don‘t get too frustrated at it, its something common for everyone
wet skiff
ya I been gaming for a long time lol
wet skiff
new legend looks dope as fuck but octane is the only one for me
torn oyster
i play enough to average like 3000 kills a season now.
not as invested into apex as i used to be.
wet skiff
more than me lol
torn oyster
honestly im looking for the 13th reason why to have my foot out the door. but there isnt a better BR right now.
torn oyster
and there isnt a FPS game i know more about than apex.
but most information in competative is universal for br's
wet skiff
yea another high TTK, movement based shooter could topple apex real quick. It's a good game but the devs haven't addressed the most glaring issues, some of them since the day the game released
torn oyster
the best QOL in all honesty isnt even the core game
its the queue system.
if you queue for trios, unqueue and queue into duos, youll still get put in trios
on a limb youll get duos but
wet skiff
simple example, no perma game mode where you can login and just practice, like TDM. Control is here sometimes, and gun run, but both are new and not perm. Instead we got arenas which is a dumpster fire.
Then ofc, target visibility and things are insane, the aim assist is so overtuned that like 90% of player on PC have swapped to controller, audio untouched since S0, servers are barely functioning. At least they did eventually remove the flashbang muzzle flash after like 5 seasons of people complaining lol
wet skiff
Yea. Really just anything where you can respawn and get back into the fight quickly
little verge
Guy separates from his team and I hit him for 210, but gotta reload and I get 85% headshot roller'd while my two teammates still can't finish this guy.
I really don't know why I bother lol.
tepid salmon
simple example, no perma game mode where you can login and just practice, like T...
So visbility isnt just me?
minor root
visibility is notoriously bad in apex
little verge
Oh man, Apex has the worst visibility. The occlusion and lighting indoors, the blinding effects, the effects that are way larger than they need to be, particle/dust effects are overdone to hell, and every filter serves to blind you.
Like I played BFV and I still have -way- easier times shooting people in that game, and people can literally blend into the terrain.
tepid salmon
Thank god, I thought I was just having skill issues, but it feels awful in comparison to other games
Well its still skill issues but you get me I think lol
wet skiff
yea and I recently learned i got sensory overload issues so it's worse for me
tepid salmon
:/
wet skiff
Legit thought I was going blind or hard of hearing some days but it's just a result of that
tepid salmon
Yeah, I feel you though, not as bad as you, but I have ADD and it can be quite hard to focus in apex, so I can‘t imagine how bad it has to be for you
tepid salmon
Legit thought I was going blind or hard of hearing some days but it's just a res...
Hope its nothing too major, does it happen with other games, or is it just apex?
wet skiff
oh no, it's everything. It's just sometimes a side effect of adhd. Basically every little movement or sound captures my attention for a microsecond, so when there's too many things I can't process it all
simple example is if I'm talking with someone, and there's a TV is in the background and like maybe another audible conversation, it's like I can't hear what they're saying. Even though I can hear them just fine. It's really weird. But my attention is just basically going between all 3 rapidly and I can't force focus it on the person talking to me as a result of the adhd.
tepid salmon
Oh yeah, its similar then I guess? Im not certain what the detailed differences are of adhd and add, but it just generally gets hard to „tune“ back in
tepid salmon
simple example is if I'm talking with someone, and there's a TV is in the backgr...
Yeah, its kinda like you daydream for a second, right?
Not sure how to call it, but daydream fits I guess?
wet skiff
in a way, but to me it's more like I can hear them just fine, but can't hear what they're saying, is the best I can describe it.
tepid salmon
in a way, but to me it's more like I can hear them just fine, but can't hear wha...
Yeah, I have it in a visual way I see something, and I know I see it but I don’t really process it
dull falcon
yo i think recoil control is fucking up my tracking idk how to explain it
wet skiff
I definitely struggle in games with bad visibility or a ton of screenshake and particles and stuff. I couldn't play modern warfare at all, the opponents were basically completely invisible. I would swear on my life they didn't render on my screen at all, then check the replay and they're just there, in the middle of my screen lmao
tepid salmon
yo i think recoil control is fucking up my tracking idk how to explain it
You mean, you track them but you fuck up due to recoil?
dull falcon
You mean, you track them but you fuck up due to recoil?
yeah
tepid salmon
Hmm, I mean, recoil smoothing id probably the easiest solution
wet skiff
Focus on smooth tracking so you get recoil smoothing, no recoil at all.
you can ignore jitter aiming though it's kind of a meme
tepid salmon
I definitely struggle in games with bad visibility or a ton of screenshake and p...
Yeah, screen shake feels the worst for me, not sure why but it can really get me confused
Idk, its just frustrating, cause you know that they‘ll probably ignore it until theres a boycott for it or something lol
little verge
There's no one to boycott it these days, and they wouldn't do anything about it anyways even if there was.
M&K players are too much the minority for Apex now, they got their business from the casuals now and they don't care about anything beyond that. Anything they say throughout the year is basically just trying to qualm doubts but ultimately by not actually doing anything either.
They say they're working on audio, nothing happens. They "get into talks" with pros like PVPX to say they're looking into visual clutter, nothing happens. They say they're doing big top secret stuff for cheating and it turns out to be Hyperion which also gets removed like two months later because of Roblox.
And now we're fast approaching the end of the year where they promised cross-progression.
tepid salmon
Hyperion?
little verge
Anti-tampering software, not really anti-cheat but still another layer at least.
tepid salmon
Guessing its an anti cheat, but how‘d it get removed cause of Roblox?
Or was that sarcasm and I failed to understand? 
little verge
The tech company that developed Hyperion and other tools got acquired by Roblox in an exclusivity deal.
So now any games that use Hyperion gotta stop using it, including the recently added Apex Legends.
tepid salmon
Lmao
proven pulsar
roblox cucked apex big time
tepid salmon
Well, I guess they‘re trying?
proven pulsar
little verge
It's even worse when you consider EA has actually created kernal level anticheat now. But right now they're only using it for their next FIFA game 
tepid salmon
Well, idk I haven‘t encountered too many cheaters yet, but im eu ig
Not the biggest priority
Back when it released I saw a few, now the worst thing Ive seen was someone using a cronus in control lol
devout tusk
how do yall remain consistent with your aim? Mine is so all over the place on a ...
i was inconsistent for a long time but i started warming up with easy scens for like 15 mins and then doing hard ones for 10 and that helped a lot
like cata ic long strafes invincible for 15
then cfsi or something like that for 10
or just play overwatch
wet skiff
ofc I warmup every day lol. Just guessing that my avg isn't really high enough yet. So if I'm like, 10% off I miss my entire mag, versus if I get better 10% off means I'll shoot them two pixels to the left of center, instead
lul
devout tusk
yeah, when you aimtrain what fov do you use
wet skiff
either 103 or 110, not sure. I set it and forget it for fov
I use 110 in apex, which is really like 108.5 because of their rounding error, but I have no idea what that translates to for kovaaks
devout tusk
I was noticing bigger improvements with my apex aim when using my ow settings 103ow, 37cm even though my apex ads settings are 109, 41cm which is what i was training with for a while before
i think just being able to see your mistakes better since its bigger helps
little verge
Yeah, 103OW is much better unless you're doing TS scenarios and need the wider FOV to see the next target.
The source FOV ends up making the bot feel much farther away, which also makes it easier to track even though it's a smaller target.
Also a lot better for learning your centering because you'll have a better idea how often you stray from that middle.
devout tusk
yeah, also lower fov makes me be less lazy with corrections because the bot is moving faster/bigger distances across my screen
and darting my eyes around can be tiring
agile dove
gaming?
torn oyster
potential for 50. seemed like a pipe dream to get that high but with the respawn beacon, its easy to farm those
imo, awful addition because of that reason.
devout tusk
what kinda music
mellow kestrel
nothing wrong with playing the objective imo
minor root
until its full of caustics and wattsons
fringe girder
real
mellow kestrel
real indeed
wish they would just disable defensive legends for control tbh
or atleast caustic + wattson
lol
minor root
delete caustic and wattson in general
wet skiff
I think they're much more manageable now than they used to be. Wattson fences are strong but you can counterplay them easily, and now that you can destroy caustic barrels he's much more reasonable.
I still hate playing against them, though
native nimbus
r5 is dead already? 
wet skiff
only in the mornings
after like noon there's usually a decent chunk of people in the DM
wet skiff
oh yea that's true sorry, didn't think of other regions. Being American does that to you
🙂
might also be because they released an update recently and some ppl haven't updated + control means you can just login normal apex and still have a place to practice that stuff
wet skiff
Does anyone have any insight on how to avoid rubberbanding while tracking a target that changes direction a lot? Basically, when they change direction, you go to correct, but before you're back on target they've changed back so you overshoot, go to correct, and it changes direction again before you really get any damage in and it just goes back and forth?
ashen trench
Don’t move mouse do they are strafeing that short
wet skiff
that's fine if you know they're going to do that, but you can't always know. I'll see if I can get a quick recording to show exactly what I mean.
Trying on Close Fast Strafes Invincible, scenario says to track like this:
Focus on the target so that you can read its movement and react quickly to its direction changes. Commit to the direction the bot is going and track it in one smooth motion rather than multiple small ones. Do not predict direction changes
https://gfycat.com/fortunateportlycardinal
So I'm trying to do that, but you can see I get stuck in that loop where I'm rubberbanding back and forth as the target changes direction before I can get back onto target and tracking smoothly
For scenarios where there's a bit less directional changes, I can get on target and track pretty well, but when they change direction a lot I get completely frazzled and start that rubberbanding thing and can't even get close to anything looking smooth
In apex if they're adading in place and I have a single fire weapon I can destroy them usually, by holding mouse still as you said. But if I have an automatic like R99 and they have a bias while strafing I struggle
little verge
I think you're just not used to the speed. Either use the time scale option in the menu or try the easy version of the scenario and just focus on being smooth to avoid that issue of falling out of sync and playing catch up.
The more you end up trying to regain ground by the time it's changing direction again it becomes 10x harder to track since you'll be going opposite to the bots movement.
torn oyster
brain: Hey playing apex inthe morning sounds great
Apex:
vague nexus
torn oyster
i see photoshop in the future
granite geode
when i put apex on 4:3 or 5:4 why do i have black bars on top and bottom of the screen
torn oyster
when i put apex on 4:3 or 5:4 why do i have black bars on top and bottom of the ...
idk the equivalent on AMD
wet skiff
for 4:3 the black bars should be on side, not on top, though. Then that would stretch it to the side, to make targets wider
torn oyster
yeah. you could also set a manual override to your displays height and width to match it but not ideal
and then fullscreen
wet skiff
if he's got them on top/bottom it's an apex thing, I'm pretty sure there was 4:3 specific thing you had to do in your videosettings cfg file to get it to work properly
torn oyster
but thats also if your monitors not native to 4:3
(PSA: always best to play on native) and have the application rescale itself
but some things have work arounds
granite geode
idk the equivalent on AMD
i use this and still its same
wet skiff
I would love to play stretched, but apex doesn't have seperate x/y sens so you can't compensate for it and "square" your aim. Your horizontal sense will be higher than vertical as a result which I think is bad
granite geode
I would love to play stretched, but apex doesn't have seperate x/y sens so you c...
no
its the same
its just fov difference
not sens difference
wet skiff
for 16:9 and 4:3 yes, but if you take the 4:3 then stretch it, it makes the horizontal sens different
wet skiff
you're moving same pixels up and down, but your horzontal pixels are longer than your vertical pixels as a result of stretching it
alpine trail
i use this and still its same
you need to do a few more things to use 4:3, launch options and alt enter fix
they’re all over yt
it’s not like 16:10
torn oyster
its a huge difference ik
wet skiff
in cs:go if you want square aim in stretch, as an example, you have to change either your hor or vert height to a 1.33 or 1.33 multipler or something similar.
If you want to play in 4:3 without stretch you don't need to do anything, though, but you'll have black bars left/right and that would be pointless to actually do
wet skiff
it only matters in diagonal aim, straight up or straight down is ez to compensate, but for diagonals it's really hard as a result. I struggle with PUBG for a long time as a result until they fixed it to allow "square" aiming
torn oyster
you could prob find a guide and play something like 1440x1080 which is 4:3
wet skiff
yea 1440x1080 is best 4:3 resolution for sure
torn oyster
which is video config edits and making it read-only
wet skiff
that is true actually, that would work.
devout tusk
but it will apply to desktop
torn oyster
saw someone who had 1680x1050 desktop res because they wanted a faster tab out when playing
torn oyster
which in heinsight isnt an awful idea? but pixel mapping making the screen blurry in and out of games becomes a problem
wet skiff
what the fuck is wrong with you
wet skiff
ok, I can accept that reasoning
torn oyster
elitists lurking: Than just buy a 24" 5head
wet skiff
on a bigger monitor that makes sense
I always use 24" so I wrongly assumed that you were, too
torn oyster
i've played apex on 1680x1050 since season 2 i believe
wet skiff
I've been dying to get myself a 1440p monitor again, there's a really sick one out with proper response time and 270 hz I really want. But it's 27" and that is really hard to play FPS games on imo
torn oyster
yeah. my Zowie XL2540k is 24.5"
and its perfect.
its honestly the best monitor ive ever owned.
240hz w/ a small base.
wet skiff
1080p, right? I got an MSI one, 240 hz 1080p. Really good but I have a 3090 so it's kind of a waste not having a higher resolution for better visual clarity. I've just been waiting for 1440p monitors to catchup to 1080p for FPS games.
torn oyster
yes.
wet skiff
yea imo if you want to really be competitive or push yourself for FPS games 240 hz or higher is the way to go depending on your budget. It's just so smooth if you get your performance to match it
night plume
when i put apex on 4:3 or 5:4 why do i have black bars on top and bottom of the ...
put this in your steam launch settings for it: +mat_letterbox_aspect_goal 0 +mat_letterbox_aspect_threshold 0 +building_cubemaps "1"
copy and paste that
then when you load into the main menu before u actually entire hte lobby
do alt + enter
twice
itll create a gap at the bottom but fill the rest of your screen
then entire the game
and youll be good
wet skiff
ticks me off that that a lot of games took the massive performance increases in hardware as a hint they don't have to work on getting their games to perform well, though.
night plume
what do u guys think is better
1728x1080 or 1440x1080
ive been going back and forth
be my deciding factor
wet skiff
I can't think of a reason one is better than the other, aside from preference
imo, especially for apex, I would think about which one makes you feel like you have better target clarity
wet skiff
since that's really the hard bottleneck for apex unfortunately
don't worry, I struggle with that as well. Very indecisive and second guess everything
well, I guess saying don't worry is wrong. Do worry about it lol. Must try to build confidence so you can say "I can play on both no problem"
and be confident that no matter which one you choose its the right choice
torn oyster
now that i think about it.
you could just set a custom resolution, keeping your native resolution, and then go to config and set it to that custom resolution and set it to read-only
w/ fullscreen enabled on primary monitor
idk how well that will work with 4:3 but
devout tusk
> elitists lurking: Than just buy a 24" 5head
find me a 1440p 240hz 24" pls
id much rather have that
wet skiff
find me a 1440p 240hz 24" pls
agreed, I don't think one exists. There aren't a lot of 1440p 24" monitors to start with, I think
torn oyster
id love to have a 1440p 240 myself
wet skiff
This is best 1440p monitor I have ever seen though
torn oyster
but thats science and a half to get it to work right
devout tusk
thats what i have
wet skiff
omg I'm so jealous. Just how great is it?
torn oyster
27 is to big for me to be gaming on imo
devout tusk
27 is too big yeah, i tried for a year and ended up just making the custom res
but
the colors are great
its kind of intense though, idk how to describe it, its not brightness
sometimes its too much
alpine trail
maybe a 24” 1440 240 will exist soon
devout tusk
lol truuu
alpine trail
50% of seer players had his passive before he came out anyway
closet cheater legend
torn oyster
devout tusk
so true
wet skiff
iono didn't feel that bad tbh
torn oyster
cheating is no where near as bad as it was pre season 10
alpine trail
yeah for sure
torn oyster
ig when respawn implimented walls into the game
wet skiff
yea no way 50%
torn oyster
they didnt need it 
alpine trail
they definitely improved anticheat but it’s stillnpretttt behind
torn oyster
oh for sure. but its WAY better
devout tusk
and akimbo
torn oyster
ive died to akimbo re user back on olympus split few seasons ago
devout tusk
honestly some of the craziest shit ive seen in a AAA game
torn oyster
was honestly pog to watch but rip the rp
alpine trail
remember that month where hackers were just going wild
this guy was terrorizing pred ranked for the whole season
wet skiff
you ever see PUBG hacks? They were way wilder than apex. Apex was bad, but PUBG was like... impressive
torn oyster
the amount of rp ive lost to tufi though
alpine trail
tufi was never on at degen hours thankfully 🙏
wet skiff
like PUBG was so bad you couldn't even get mad at dying to them cus you're just wondering how in the everloving fuck it was even possible for some of them
torn oyster
i need my wrist to heal.
i still have yet to hit masters. ive been in diamond for weeks now.
not going anywhere
alpine trail
i haven’t even hit masters this season lmao i have 200 games played total
lowest since season 1
torn oyster
i hit it first split so im not to concerned but
alpine trail
idc cus it’s a dog badge but
torn oyster
i prefer to use event badges
alpine trail
having to reclimb always annoying
alpine trail
fr
fair trellis
i need my wrist to heal.
whats wrong with it
fair trellis
rip
torn oyster
i can move it right, but it tightens up when moving it to the left
its far better now since ive consistantly been wearing a brace
but still bothersome
wet skiff
well I'm like 3/4 the way to D1 atm so if yall decide to do some last minute grinding bring me along. I'm prolly not as good as either you, though.
torn oyster
been playing with railgun and mythos. we had a banger session the other day
easily 600+ rp in a matter of max 2hrs
maybe 2.5
wet skiff
nice
wonder if we've run into each other in game yet lul
I don't normally check names of people we fight
torn oyster
mayhaps.
we ended up getting railed by hal and hurst from a L move.
we had ring and everything but roller does roller things up close
wet skiff
yea my squad got rolled by a 3 man pro squad, naughty and 2 others, in 7 seconds flat from start to finish
earlier in the season, though, when was still D4
alpine trail
Just kill them
torn oyster
tfw nobody is on.
wet skiff
i tried lol I managed to crack one and do a bit against the other but yea it was so fast we didn't even have time to process what the fuck happened before we died lol
alpine trail
tfw nobody is on.
What do you expect with 21 friends 😭
torn oyster
Theres more thats just steam. and im not signed in on origin
so it doesnt display the full list
not a whole lot more, but adding random people just to have people online seems pointless.
but it comes as no surprise that i lack in the online friend department
wet skiff
it's hard to make friends
torn oyster
well, not exactly. but for those who want to play apex and not rip the hair out is hard.
for some, its like pulling teeth to play apex these days and i would agree. its in a very stale state.
if i kept every person i lfg'd with it would be bigger, but using things like battlecord, they leave after like 1-2 bad games and blame you for it
wet skiff
yea that's exactly why I struggled with LFG. One bad game and people rage
really bad for mental if you already struggle w/ confidence
torn oyster
agreed. like i get its fustrating but, theres clearly a flaw if things go south very quickly.
find the flaw and change it.
ranked isnt ment to be easy
Looking at you Season 12
alpine trail
I mean it’s pretty easy to climb in pred rn
wet skiff
not for me, I'm bad 🙂
alpine trail
s13 split 1 was the only time it has been more noticeably difficult
dull falcon
is it me or season 13 was the best ranked ever
alpine trail
yeah i remmeber driving off the map for the first time when the map dropped
fun times i miss old apex
dull falcon
olympus is the most visually pleasing map ong
torn oyster
i remember almost driving off so i jumped out not knowing the cars mechanics that it launches you in the air
devout tusk
bro yes
torn oyster
so i tried jumping out, not realizing how long the animation was
devout tusk
i didnt learn that for like 4 seasons
torn oyster
💀
devout tusk
literally never saw it happen
torn oyster
sadly i played first split of s7 and second split of s8
torn oyster
both 7 and 8 arent animated 
or 5, or 10
7/8 pred badges honestly look the best in recent badges
devout tusk
cant believe apex came out 6 years ago already
torn oyster
s3 imo has cleanest design
torn oyster
im still mad i bothered with arenas
won 9/10 games and got like silver IV or some shit
while a buddy of mine got gold
alpine trail
That means u performed worse than him
More confused how u didn’t get plat 2 tbh
if u were pred
torn oyster
uhh. arenas
alpine trail
first 10 games are abhorrently easy
devout tusk
did they stop selling recolors
devout tusk
wtf
alpine trail
i haven’t seen any in weeks idk tho
torn oyster
they have this "monthly" thing
instead
but that didnt come till after loba heirloom iirc?
idk i havnt seen the recolor shop since the loba loom event
devout tusk
i think i got all the ones i care about at least
torn oyster
likewise
devout tusk
damn ur ballin fr
torn oyster
i may or may not have spent to much on apex 💀
devout tusk
what is the turkey method
devout tusk
oh like prices
torn oyster
i dont just buy out packs and go weeee
devout tusk
region prices
alpine trail
u cant do it anymore i think but u were able to change to turkey region and get half price coins
alpine trail
LOL
torn oyster
Lmao
alpine trail
i do it for yt premium 😎
devout tusk
i could never
iron man sounds fun but then i go buy 500 super restores at the ge and realize id have to make all of those
and farm the herbs
devout tusk
DISHONEST
torn oyster
placebo ring of wealth.
ring of the dwarves in rs3 is nutty though
getting a drop and having the ring activate for double drop
is op
do i even have old SS on this hardrive.
cant post em here bc not apex but
wet skiff
https://i.imgur.com/V88XSUR.png
hey I can drop 30k as well!
devout tusk
sick
wet skiff
new record for me
devout tusk
same, my last 30 was in the april control
so often i get like 20 kills by 1/3 and then i cant find anyone for the rest of the game
where do they go i dont know
torn oyster
vn
alpine trail
damage is easier to farm than kills in dis mode it feels like
alpine trail
give everyone white shields like gun run and ill pick up the 3-3 controller 😈
torn oyster
7000 hours on mnk.
about 10 hours on roller
devout tusk
saw a teamate almost drop 40
my friend did in feb lol
torn oyster
ggs
devout tusk
nah they just both 1 trick
alpine trail
chillin
torn oyster
olympus control, let enemy get B
alpine trail
crypto is so boring in pubs
torn oyster
just EMP spam
alpine trail
ya
devout tusk
i think he said he was using double flatline
alpine trail
i had volt flatline in mine i think
torn oyster
a menace.
alpine trail
for most of it
torn oyster
volt no optic + pk
devout tusk
i just run wing and find an r9 to pick up every game, or the reverse
stuck in my ways since season 0
torn oyster
the menu UI changes are nice but im waiting for them to have rotating LTM's
torn oyster
i feel like cod was successful in a game sense due to how many different types of gamemodes it had
we finally started getting more and the activity grew a bit
alpine trail
i dont think they care enough
why use more resources when you are already heavily profiting
devout tusk
i just like to fight, but pubs just arent what they used to be
torn oyster
i havnt played pubs in quite some time it feels like
either ranked or ltms in the past few weeks
alpine trail
reminder: ea only put 0.0025% of their revenue into y3 of ALGS
quaint karma
idk how you guys are getting 8k damage games
torn oyster
i never play objective in control
i just pewpew
i got 8 other people to do that for me
alpine trail
do you die a lot nosh
quaint karma
no
devout tusk
i just stand between B and their spawn
devout tusk
and kill people from there
alpine trail
nah idc about that who cares about winning in non stat mode
devout tusk
Usually i just camp b on barometer cause its the most fun
devout tusk
yeah but when someone finally does im there waiting
alpine trail
lmao
torn oyster
play for the W, i can respect it
quaint karma
plus sometimes teammates are braindead so like if i dont cap myself well just lose tbh
and then i cant farm kills anyways
torn oyster
or tied for last with half the other team
devout tusk
also to get high stat games you have to make the game even
torn oyster
i played a game where half of the enemy team had 0 kills
devout tusk
so you gotta lose on purpose for a while
torn oyster
you can do really well all you want, just know it gets paired up with others who are also doing very well
alpine trail
aint no way
devout tusk
yeah this time feels like theres sbmm
alpine trail
everyone sucks in my games
it feels a bit harder than last time but theyre still bad
torn oyster
than youre just built diff morgan
devout tusk
nah man theres like 4 sweats every time for me now
alpine trail
thats fkd
devout tusk
its fun though
alpine trail
i think last game i played there was someone with same kills as me on enemy team but i didnt run into him for the whole game
torn oyster
im sure i could load up pubs and get maybe 7 kills after not seeing anybody
and then get like
2
devout tusk
except today im playing so bad for whatever reason, got rolled a couple times lmao
feels like 300 ping between my brain and fingers
alpine trail
feel that
torn oyster
id like to concider myself above average but this wrist injury got me playing like a hardstuck plat on console
devout tusk
"why am i still crouching" believe it or not its because im still pressing the crouch button
alpine trail
i use both as well
torn oyster
i just cant do it personally.
alpine trail
do u just have it unbound?
devout tusk
like slide jumping i use toggle
quaint karma
nah people on control are all dogshit
alpine trail
slide jumping feels weird without toggle
torn oyster
i just have your standard hold to left ctrl
torn oyster
my C is weapon inspect
devout tusk
thats way more than before
torn oyster
used to be n but i re-adjusted how i have my keyboard
for hand cramping problems in the past
devout tusk
it used to be like a decent player every 5 games
quaint karma
like i often have enemies getting 20 kills
torn oyster
since i got an L desk as well its been easier to have it at a slight degree
quaint karma
but theres also tons of low levels
torn oyster
rather than basically playing upside down
devout tusk
i just have my keyboard straight like a normal person
i dont get the crazy angles lol
torn oyster
i have it at like a slight tilt for comfortability
but people who have theirs at almost a 90o angel
i just cant
devout tusk
i guess its a little tilted but like 5 degrees
yeah that shit bothers me fr
like why
torn oyster
i get why, you have access to more keys that way
alpine trail
bad posture maybe
torn oyster
having it in resting position reaching others with 1 hand is harder
rather having it at an angle where u can reach the other half of the keyboard
with the same hand
quaint karma
also get a lot of people like this in control https://streamable.com/z6l3b0
devout tusk
i just need to be sitting in a super specific way to aim well so tilting the keyboard is not compatible
bros gonna go crazy with the kraber
torn oyster
i feel like once u get used to a specific way the keyboard is
even a slight change in direction ruins you
torn oyster
i need to stop changing perifs because of it lol
i swapped from my glorious model o to my g703 and wanted to die
devout tusk
i KEEP buying mice and every time
torn oyster
changed my pads
torn oyster
from slow to fast
alpine trail
i cant use slow pads
torn oyster
69g mouse on a benQ GSR SE
alpine trail
i used gsr for years now its unusable for me
torn oyster
quaint karma
46g mouse on skypad
torn oyster
46? starlight?
alpine trail
42 gram mouse on otsu mid 😈
torn oyster
hmm
devout tusk
70g on raiden lul
quaint karma
i went from g703 to superlight like last year
torn oyster
i was going the cheap route
devout tusk
viper mini is just a better model o-
i bought a fantech aria cause people said its like a better g305, feels nothing like it :( i just want a good sensor in g305 shape
torn oyster
i like the feel of the 703 superlight
alpine trail
average glorious qc
torn oyster
but its still just to heavy for me
quaint karma
i like the feel of the 703 superlight
whats that\
devout tusk
wtf happened
alpine trail
i wish i knew i dropped it and that happened
wasn’t even a bad drop too
the shell cracked at first before that
great mouse
torn oyster
whats that\
quaint karma
isnt it called g703 lightspeed or something
alpine trail
ye
devout tusk
rare mouse tbh
torn oyster
i had a g502 and that was a chonker to use
i had it for about 5 minutes and put it back in the box
devout tusk
i used to use g700 
alpine trail
i have a friend who uses g502 with weights
torn oyster
i do too. shes cracked at teh game but
devout tusk
chad
torn oyster
youre using a cinderblock
to aim
think she said her mouse is like
120g or something stupid
devout tusk
i dont get why heavy mice used to be the thing
alpine trail
thumbrest
torn oyster
that was all rounds uncomfortable to use
devout tusk
g700 is 130 either with or without battery, cant remember
like a little curve that goes under your thumb
torn oyster
this curve shit
torn oyster
what is that LOL
alpine trail
it eeven has a stick for aim assist
torn oyster
thats not real
devout tusk
wtf
torn oyster
no shot anyone is using that besides to meme
devout tusk
you think that is algs legal
torn oyster
theres oddly enough
147 videos on youtube for monetary value
how would you even use it for max performance
im looking at it and my brain already hurts
alpine trail
plug it into one of those mouse and keyboard converters and play on xbox one handed
devout tusk
my friend used to use this
alpine trail
thats so fire
torn oyster
Esports ready 23g mouse
