Nah half of the preds are cheating for sure
#apex
alpine trail
Most of them use the same cheat too
Onlypreds discord used to talk about the cheat like they were sponsored
large majority of the pred cheaters are in APAC though
rigid jolt
Man after getting rammed all day by roller players how do you guys keep composure and not want to switch, I’m down bad after todays session 
honest heron
because roller is so fucking boring to play
why would i
i care about fun, not being better than everyone else
rigid jolt
Maybe that’s how I have to think about things
Seeing even pro players swap to roller is demotivating
honest heron
i play roller one game and stop cos its a snoozefest
genburten is bored like all the time because of it
rigid jolt
Friends and I were playing ranked today and sweet’s team pulled up and killed us so quick and I went to his stream and he was on roller 💀
Had to take a solid 15 min break after that lmaoo
Yea man I dunno it’s not as satisfying to 1 clip on roller either but I dunno
At the same time I dunno if I want to aim train anymore, after 300 hrs of kovaaks i don’t think I can do it anymore
alpine trail
pubs feel like shit
sharp nova
AINT NOTHIN NEW
novel loom
At the same time I dunno if I want to aim train anymore, after 300 hrs of kovaak...
Sounds to me like you’re just getting burnt out, maybe a short break would help
rigid jolt
Break from aim training ?
novel loom
Yeah there’s no harm in that. I think mentality is everything in both apex and aim training
rigid jolt
I put in like only 30 hrs in kovaaks in the past year. The majority of it was during 2020 then I stopped cuz it reallly burnt me out lmaoo
honest heron
play other games and come back
rigid jolt
Yea I dunno I think I have to change my mindset tbh
honest heron
apex is more fun when you dont take it that seriously
novel loom
I feel ya bro there’s days on apex where I’m like why do I even play this game. That’s when I stop and come back
rigid jolt
It also sucks cuz there’s no other good mainstream tracking heavy game with good movement
honest heron
play more singleplayer games
a lot of people complain about nothing being good when all they play is AAA multiplayer games
there's an endless amount of stuff to try out there
play stuff that isnt mainstream
play weird and cool stuff
you'll enjoy games a lot more in general when you have variety
rigid jolt
Man I used to love single player games but something happened to me and I don’t get the same hit anymore while playing them
sad days man
But you’re right
honest heron
depends on the games
i've been having so much fun with doom eternal
most fun i have had in a game in years
titanfall 2 is still alive with northstar, you could always play that
molten basin
quaint karma
pro
candid sparrow
dub
wicked river
Packet loss
teal moth
Most of them use the same cheat too
That sounds way too sad
I hope its not true
And if it is, damn bruh
teal moth
Man I used to love single player games but something happened to me and I don’t ...
Try path of exile
still ingot
some1 to play arena ranked? plat+
chilly dawn
not that i know of but you can favorite the ones you like or use so they'll stay on top
sweet bay
I don't think there is a way to get rid of them.
river ice
its feeling like a trios bot lobby kinda day
dusky summit
proven pulsar
i think we need to ban that word from here ngl
yes please
proven pulsar
u guys saw the new convolk vid
hes not even trying to hide anymore lmfao
alpine trail
proven pulsar
🥶
alpine trail
guys cheating in silver lmao
Idk if was a visual bug but one time I saw a guy shooting with two guns
alpine trail
Yep and aimlock 💀
white thicket
I remember beating a cheater bangalore with that
it was intense
they full killed my teammates
so i just hid behind cover
and threw arc stars
it worked :)
wanton shoal
hes not even trying to hide anymore lmfao
his real skil at the end of the video
only part where he uses a handcam
😂
little verge
his real skil at the end of the video
Wait wtf is that actually though. That bit where he tracks the Octane directly above and for a few frames he suddenly slams his aim into the floor but his arm doesn't move.
Doesn't look like sensor spin out because it just plummets straight down.
proven pulsar
Wait wtf is that actually though. That bit where he tracks the Octane directly a...
LMFAO TRUE
Bro didn't catch that one
💀
little verge
Yeah, seems like something super weird to leave in your video lol.
placid root
Uploading for 50MB limit 😎
Oh man Convolk sent me a friend request
proven pulsar
<:pepeLaff:635144487223427093> Oh man Convolk sent me a friend request
Did you just get the FR?
Pretty sure he's on this server with an alt
Either that or we're getting ratted on
little verge
Definitely an alt, mutual servers only show him on Hollow's.
little verge
I want this framed in my home
proven pulsar
LMFAOOOOOOO
trail grail
L
vague nexus
this guy is in this server with an alt for sure
little verge
I'm surprised his mouse can even have sensor spin out as he claims, considering how little he actually uses it 
proven pulsar
proven pulsar
bruh
if you search his name on this sv he has been accused of cheating multiple times
cursive python
best eu 3k warrior fr
honest heron
convolk again lol
imagine being so much of a fucking loser that you have an alt to lurk in some random channel in a discord server
then try to defend your honor or some shit
bright elm
because of us oxy
@honest heron
funny
like if he was legit
you'd think he would blow up
on every social media platform
because he's goated
alpine trail
he just needs help, thats all
he is stuck in the pathological lying loop
anyway this is like day 4 of talking abt him yall gotta ban the keyword or something
honest heron
the jokes just write themselves
alpine trail
he's enjoying your attention, that's why
honest heron
i dont think thats it
he already has tons of people dickriding him
he just wants ppl to stop talking about how he's cheating lmfao
alpine trail
i hope he gets the help he needs :)
it is quite draining putting up a facade like that
he'll give up eventually
honest heron
idk man he's been doing it for years
alpine trail
it is common and it is probably something very deep rooted making him continue
these people are just mentally ill, that is it
i'm not even lying convolk lives within 20 metres of me
honest heron
unfortunate
honest heron
diabolical
alpine trail
i promise he won't mess u guys up if u engage w him in bombastic ways, but if u believe he's cheating then u probably don't want to, "play his game"
he has Capricorn energy
honest heron
ofc thats why i just sit and laugh
alpine trail
yea but u could stir more and it'd be fun i reckon
honest heron
could be
alpine trail
it's just whenever people respond to convolk it's after they're real pissed off
or it's like a 500 word essay that says, "convolk's pattern of interactions indicate he's a cheater, use common sense"
alpine trail
yea but screw normal mane
we have a really fun game we can play
but nobody's keen
um like, u seen death note right?
he's the perfect villain
honest heron
hahaha\
alpine trail
or Zell is another example of a bombastic character sorta
honest heron
just fuck with him endlessly
alpine trail
yes but fuck with him the right ways
don't be lazy and impulsive
he's been saying this the whole time
if u send him a death threat he's gonna dome u and ur community
he's tearing up rA rn
and he has a bigger audience than voltaic & rA i swear
honest heron
start a war for shits and gigs perhaps
alpine trail
u need to find the element of catharsis in it, or something
bright elm
and he has a bigger audience than voltaic & rA i swear
a community full of roller players?
alpine trail
honest heron
im not the man for the job
alpine trail
actually he's got good aimers
honest heron
but its a hilarious idea
alpine trail
aimlab dragod
bright elm
never heard of dragod
alpine trail
idk he's just a random who grinds offline scens or something
but within convolk's community he can prove he has aimers
even if they're not recognised outside
that's my point
alpine trail
yeayeayeya whip the horse's ass
bright elm
it just means those people are delusional like him
alpine trail
u're trying to hurt him as much as u can in one hit
when u should flutter him instead
keep him close & deal a thousand cuts of healing
but now you're just saying people are delusional and that nothing is worth your time or energy
when once in a blue moon someone clearly has an outburst and has to take down convolk
and then he uses it as fuel
bright elm
but now you're just saying people are delusional and that nothing is worth your ...
because he isn't
im not even the one to bring up convolk
alpine trail
but then someone has an outburst and does put in time and energy
yea
i just mean people, like anyone can volunteer to care about the situation
having an ego is good, being aware of it's the important part
proven pulsar
he's the perfect villain
nah bro ive met the perfect villain and he aint it
perfect villain is also on this server tho
name starts with a D
alpine trail
just seems like convolk is throwing people a ball and they're popping it when they could throw it back, which honestly is a good thing in the first place but i don't blame someone if they want to play the game, in fact it would be enjoyable because we're all bored
alpine trail
bpd/ capricorn
bright elm
and we should stop bringing him up!
this chat turned into a convolk rant chat for like
almost a week
now
honest heron
name starts with a D
demotori?????????
bright elm
doxy
honest heron
zamn
bright elm
alpine trail
but he's going to be brought up
bright elm
ill just ask to ban the keyword convolk if it does come up
it gets annoying after a while
alpine trail
unless u perma ban everything related to him, right now we're holding liquid boundaries so i for example am going to push them
alpine trail
he's going to have access to the server no matter what
alpine trail
oki
bright elm
my point was that after he got caught cheating in kovaaks
proven pulsar
im talking dongie
bright elm
we already started banning anything related to him
proven pulsar
dongie is the perfect villain of apex chat
alpine trail
lol
bright elm
bright elm
dongie is the perfect villain of apex chat
actually tho
love that guy
last year, he trolled so many newcomers
it was funny
LOL
alpine trail
pls if u have like a new yorker or something to go toe to toe w convolk who won't fold
bright elm
hes just a troll tho
he's the ultimate grass toucher
bright elm
pls if u have like a new yorker or something to go toe to toe w convolk who won'...
london roadman
alpine trail
lul
u need someone to be friends w him tho
i've been asking around to see if people think it's immoral to upload w him and they say yes, tho i don't think it was bad for OOT to pick him up
but i bet i could watermark all his clips as, "cheater"
and that would be more borderline and it's funny
bright elm
im sure there's people who would put the time and effort to actually go that far
but i personally cba to do so
alpine trail
literally me but
bright elm
i used to go that far
to spite people
back like
5 years ago
but now i don't want to get involved in anything that doesn't affect me personally
proven pulsar
last year, he trolled so many newcomers
bro he trolled me as well
bright elm
bro he trolled me as well
he trolled everyone
honest heron
he trolled me once until i realised
alpine trail
oh it's not that i need to be paid to troll him it's that i need to be paid to get clips/ make trying hard ingame worth it
honest heron
why is this scenario 2 minutes long i want to heck myself
alpine trail
to make me more relevant to troll him
if that makes sense
i realised this recently
honest heron
lol
alpine trail
because i have a very low self esteem ingame based on the sensation of wasting time & having no control over my life
bright elm
because i have a very low self esteem ingame based on the sensation of wasting t...
you feel like you're wasting time when playing games?
alpine trail
yea like i'm doing demon/id/chaos without order-peterson type shit
bright elm
well its a form of entertainment
alpine trail
but i love that in a way
it's just it 'matters' a lot that i waste time/ cope like this
because i risk homelessness
bright elm
my view on video games is that as long as it's not interfering with your daily life/work life
then it's fine
alpine trail
it definitely does
bright elm
and that goes for any form of entertainment
like watching shows/videos
hanging out with friends
etc
alpine trail
trolling convolk would make him more money, but it would also make the troller money too
um it's like when the government worked with the mafia
it's roughly unethical but okay enough to fit within reality in a way we can cope with
also matches the theme of a show i've been watching with him (angel, buffy the vampire slayer etc no spilers)
i'm just really trying to make the case that we have more options than just completely shutting down convolk and having a perfectly rigid moral compass
well actually we're not rigid because we still vent to him by boogeymanning him, dishing out death threats etc
honest heron
bit of chaotic neutral action
alpine trail
yesss
um, eminem: i am whatever u say i am
that's the game
if convolk says ur sending death threats then u kinda are (even if that's inaccurate)
honest heron
i c
alpine trail
when he was banned in aim labs his defense was that the scores he had were infinitely impossible which means we can't prove he was 'cheating' for scores
um like, if a WR is 10k and he gets 11k but there's also a 30k score, he's like, "well obviously it's not about the 30k score it's about the 11k score"
the 30k score implies the 11k is cheated, but it isn't evidence
i would engage with him if u feel confident that u want to defeat a narcissistic parent or have a history of dealing w controlling partners etc (bc u would have reoccurring motivation) but i would also recommend talking to a therapist about convolk if ur thinking about him otherwise u'r just going to lash out and send him death threats
still it's a safe way to explore those traumas.
honest heron
lmao
bright elm
when he was banned in aim labs his defense was that the scores he had were infin...
actually tho
mf tried to make the situation something else
that isn't related to him cheating
😭
even though all i said was that he's a cheater
alpine trail
btw i'm going to speak for convolk right now: u said u don't care/ energy/ whatever yet you are still engaging in it. tho it's kinda toxic for me to put u on edge like this isn't it
im just continuing to highlight the game/ rules for those curious
proven pulsar
youre literally convolks alt
proven pulsar
can you prove hes not a cheater
alpine trail
i've seen him play rly well on my pc but nah i can't prove anything like that
honest heron
god damn those are some awful credentials u right
honest heron
unfortunate
alpine trail
people used to witch hunt me in there thinking i was convolk
actually that's why i was modded, for self defense when i was hanging out a lot 
honest heron
lmfao
alpine trail
btw is this score any good?
cos convolk coached this person
there's graph on the left if we want to identify niche/ luck
high k/d rebirth player
honest heron
i mean its a top 5 score so yes its probably good
alpine trail
i just find it really interesting following the pros/cons of participating in either side of this "cheater problem". Like if he's cheating then it's really cool watching him try to make the most out of it for other people
it's hard to let urself have empathy in a situation like this
i've seen sympathy but not empathy. that bs, "let's just not talk about him cos he's mentally ill", that's sympathy.
bright elm
why would we need to express any empathy for a cheater?
alpine trail
Good players cheat because they want to stay consistent and not experience down time. They know how good they are so when they're having an off-period they chew on some virtual tobacco and it keeps them productive. I'm not saying this is accurate from the outside, I'm saying this is internally accurate to the person who is cheating
that's what convolk told me and I think it's a really interesting perspective for handling cheaters. It's very different to, "here is a dogshit player who wants to hurt people"
alpine trail
why would we need to express any empathy for a cheater?
up to u
bright elm
Good players cheat because they want to stay consistent and not experience down ...
cheating is still cheating
alpine trail
u can find a reason if u want, like maybe it could be that people treat cheaters too poorly, or maybe u think people should be able to treat cheaters poorly
we put people in jail to torture them and that's justice
alpine trail
when we feel for the person, we trade jail for rehab
alpine trail
the difference between jail and rehab is empathy imo
because if u were the person, u'd want rehab
unless u had a very cynical and destructive self image
brisk kayak
Understandably people have little empathy to criminals who commit these heinous crimes
white thicket
What happened to the apex chat lol
bright elm
you really think
alpine trail
rapist
alpine trail
my bad
trail grail
how does this topic went from some nerd cheating to rapists and serial killers
Bro what
trail grail
Cheaters don’t get pardon or second chances. No brainer
alpine trail
can u see that message kristian
bright elm
i don't have any empathy for people who cheats
alpine trail
i sent one but it has blocked words
bright elm
I just see how it is at face value
bright elm
i sent one but it has blocked words
certain keywords are blocked
if you cheat, you cheat
plain simple
I don't have to understand your reasoning
alpine trail
like i'm sure there are some cases of R we can have empathy for, say if someone is incredibly repressed, lonely, isolated, was incredibly abused etc etc etc
yes that's a practical way of navigating the world
trail grail
why would you have empathy for cheaters though
bright elm
even then elise, I won't tolerate cheating
I can sympathize with them
and see where they're coming from
aka
empathizing
but even then
cheating is still cheating
trail grail
People who do shady shit are fully aware it’s not some “oppsie daisy I’m such a gemini sksksksksks” type of shit
bright elm
legit unfair for everyone else
white thicket
I think the issue is when people don't move on
alpine trail
because people seem to think that they can treat cheaters however they want
white thicket
You can though?
bright elm
because people seem to think that they can treat cheaters however they want
okay im going to say one last thing about convolk before I shut down this conversation
we only said
that he's a cheater
alpine trail
ya ok
trail grail
You got this one chief I’m out
bright elm
and that there's evidecne
evidence
behind him doing so
and you even backed it up
not sure if you're
talking about convollk
alpine trail
we're communicating under the assumption that he's cheating
alpine trail
i'm happy to make that assumption for the sake of this conversation
bright elm
us saying he's mentally insane is because he dm'd all of us trying to convince us that he's not cheating?
even then
my dms was him trying to make me seem like the bad guy
like I did something else
that wasn't accusing him of cheating
alpine trail
in this instance, convolk is the BIGGEST cheater. he's the WORST OF THE WORST (outside of someone who makes HEAPS of money from a tourney for example)
agile dove
okay im going to say one last thing about convolk before I shut down this conver...
please just blacklist convolk or some shit because its been almost a week. every vid he posts is just going to respark this dogshit conversation
alpine trail
so he's an interesting model
bright elm
but yes
im going to be shutting down this convo
because like emerald said
and what I said earlier
we might as well rename this channel to the convolk rant
because this shit has been going on for too long
alpine trail
it would be nice to be able to discuss cheaters more in the future but i'm not sure where or how
because it is clearly a difficult conversation that is heated
alpine trail
i would love for u to continue to express ur views on cheaters but i also want to express my own
bright elm
I mean i see where you're coming from
with empathy
because it's important to express it
but how I view it
in certain situations, there's no reason to give empathy
honest heron
i think the psychology of why ppl cheat is interesting
bright elm
like mass murderers
honest heron
but no, i am not empathetic to these sorts of ppl
alpine trail
because we can hold opposing views it's probably a good idea for us to have this conversation. Because we DON'T KNOW what to DO when there's cheaters
bright elm
because we can hold opposing views it's probably a good idea for us to have this...
I'd love to have controversial conversations like this, but this isn't the server to have them in unfortunately
alpine trail
and ie rA can't defend themself against convolk. People are leaving by his influence and convolk's audience believes that u shouldn't treat cheaters so negatively (we're dealing with a growing quantity of people)
I think if we never address that, it will grow out of hand and we will be viewed as toxic
honest heron
being viewed as toxic is fine by me
ppl can think whatever they like, shouldn't have any bearing over your actions
alpine trail
convolk's channel is extremely symbolic and a perfect model for this discussion. And he's helped us every step of the way to have this discussion. He's perfect for a 1 on 1 conversation especially, which should be arranged one day
& yea it looks like we can't have that discussion in here
bright elm
anyways i'll be muting anyone in the future that mentions convolk
honest heron
a lot of them just do it to spite developers
cos they did something they didnt like
alpine trail
my last word on it's that i highly recommend reaching out to him when you feel like u have the space and time. He will let u vent first too if that helps, but he will also want to vent back. Give each other a few hours. That's if u care about the cheater/empathy/ how do we handle them etcetc discussion. U can contact him through me if u want but i'm sure he's in all ur dms anyway. He's a good chat if u are willing to engage
bright elm
and ie rA can't defend themself against convolk. People are leaving by his influ...
It's understandable why people treat cheaters the way they do
it's not fun going against cheaters
people play games to have fun
honest heron
imma be honest i have zero interest in being empathetic
bright elm
and it just ruins it when people have unfair advantages
you can't blame anyone who are affected by cheaters
honest heron
i have a line in the sand for these sorts of things
bright elm
which should be common sense
alpine trail
these are good points and u should take your time to write them down (as u are) and eventually share them with him
honest heron
doesnt rly matter how or why you do it, making others suffer for your own benefit is just not it
trail grail
So what type of bad bitches y’all like?
honest heron
art hoes
trail grail
ON GOD BRO
alpine trail
it's good to tell him why you won't empathize with him too
a similar case recently is andrew tate. Anyone see his apology video?
bright elm
So what type of bad bitches y’all like?
nurses
trail grail
It be girls into art that are fine as fuck
bright elm
a similar case recently is andrew tate. Anyone see his *apology video*?
let's not get into andrew tate
andrew tate is already a big red fucking flag
trail grail
nurses <:kanyesus:963251451575009310>
or animal lovers 
alpine trail
but people did get into andrew tate and that's why it's over
alpine trail
he apologised perfectly. but he still has a trail for people to follow (and it leads to his apology)
ok
alpine trail
it's just an example of a convolk that was addressed really well and constructively
trail grail
I just do
honest heron
wha abt astrology bitches
trail grail
I be telling bitches I’m Leo or Sagitiddies and they believe me
honest heron
lmaoooooo
trail grail
I’m a Tartarus but they hate it
bright elm
miss those times
honest heron
hi sari
trail grail
there was a time where genshin was the topic
I remember
alpine trail
aim-politics >:}
honest heron
bro be thankful this isnt valorant chat
alpine trail
btw this could connect to the aim assist controversy
honest heron
that shit way worse
trail grail
bro be thankful this isnt valorant chat
Ah hell naaaaah
alpine trail
because aim assist is cheating ....
bright elm
btw this could connect to the aim assist controversy
i mean everyone here complains about aim assist
lol
alpine trail
:P
trail grail
It be a bunch of kristians with Val accents spamming skull emojis
twilit minnow
Just a general suggestion, when talking about our romantic interests, let's do so with respect, and preferably in #general
trail grail
Imagine the buzz light year scene when he walks to the mall and there were 300000 copies of him
bright elm
Just a general suggestion, when talking about our romantic interests, let's do s...
my romantic interest is u
bright elm
trail grail
I did it just to switch up the convo from earlier
twilit minnow
but you got it sari
Ty ❤️
twilit minnow
I did it just to switch up the convo from earlier
Ty as well, yeah just for the future
honest heron
Imagine the buzz light year scene when he walks to the mall and there were 30000...
this is just val players in general
trail grail
3030
honest heron
every single montage is the same
bright elm
every single montage is the same
same song
honest heron
scout is funny
twilit minnow
Hits hard and has a lot of spam potential
bright elm
LOL
honest heron
ratatatatatata'
bright elm
nah val never has pop smoke
twilit minnow
oh wait val
trail grail
Or any rave song
twilit minnow
nvm
twilit minnow
LOL
trail grail
nah val never has pop smoke
I’ll be the first
trail grail
Hold up tho
honest heron
imma be real my tage playlist goes so hard no shizzle
trail grail
Y’all ever tried using any songs from Xavier wulf?
bright elm
nnope
honest heron
i got shit you never heard b4
trail grail
That silver fang I did back then
honest heron
ok it doesnt go that hard
honest heron
bro so epic
trail grail
Use zhongli shit
honest heron
imma do this
trail grail
Y’all gonna hear some main menu ost while I’m 1 magging mfers
bright elm
LMFAO
honest heron
i got the best playlist tho
trail grail
nooooo
bright elm
trail grail
KRIS
honest heron
ok this is actually so based kris
trail grail
SHE WAS CANADIAN
bright elm
ok this is actually so based kris
LOL
trail grail
trail grail
kylibot
honest heron
bro what the fuck is this mix LMFAO
honest heron
next to riot
trail grail
You use this for montages?
honest heron
i just thought it was funny
trail grail
Yo kris I started listening to haarper
bright elm
imma use this
honest heron
post malone
trail grail
Stupid hard
honest heron
reminds me of the time i killed him in apex
trail grail
Yeah
bright elm
reminds me of the time i killed him in apex
lies
trail grail
I got youuuuu
honest heron
no
bright elm
post malone would smoke you
honest heron
we did
bright elm
yo she pretty hot
bright elm
https://clips.twitch.tv/JazzyInquisitiveBulgogiPicoMause-4rcWJaaM15KEyBEp
yea ik
insane
honest heron
oh lmao
bright elm
OH
honest heron
i forgor
bright elm
THIS SONG
@trail grail i think this was used in
one of higheupho's
montages
i could be wrong tho
yo this shit goes hard
wtf
honest heron
rip euph
honest heron
hes so good
trail grail
Who
bright elm
higheuphoria
trail grail
Never know or met the guy
Apex chat is literally firelink shrine and y’all some npc’s to me y’all come and go
proven pulsar
Apex chat is literally firelink shrine and y’all some npc’s to me y’all come and...
are you the fire keeper
honest heron
Switch mfs exist?
tacit crypt
hello I’m trying to learn how to do jitter aim. I have an idea on how to do it but I wanna learn how to really do it, like the right way
jolly pulsar
proven pulsar
Torje goat
bright elm
bro
why does every fucking time
someoen shoots
at me
my fps drops 100
?????????
did they also add fps drops alongside bullet slow
trail grail
damn
quaint karma
does switch even have cross play?
what in the actual fuck happened in here last night while i was asleep
honest heron
chat went schizo mode
kind nova
my fps drops 100
are you running dual channel ram?
honest heron
ya
dim ermine
void oriole
my fps drops 100
yeah that just happens
like when i get into fights my fps drops by a massive amount
from 120-144+ down to the 70s
alpine trail
https://youtu.be/eJi1dyl0z6s Dis clips still mind boggles me! I was on 60 Cm too! :O
teal moth
cringe
thin raven
rmb to be toxic on voice so u dont get banned 
teal moth
true
teal moth
Bro arenas is legit stupid
3 games in a row
no teammates
and losing rp cause i can't leave whitout penalty
tepid quiver
proven pulsar
Bro arenas is legit stupid
Why you playing that bullshit
fringe girder
playing arena is asking to get rollered
vague nexus
Idk its fun at the start
Then it gets sweaty
And teammates lack oxygen or something
teal moth
Why you playing that bullshit
warm up + easy to practice weakness guns
violet sphinx
skill issue
anyone wanna run ranked for like a few games cause i need some good teammates for once
violet sphinx
And teammates lack oxygen or something
teammates usually lack brain cells in both arenas and ranked
alpine trail
indeed but nothing you can do about the latter other than branch out and try to meet new people
violet sphinx
some of them are great and most play the worst possible positions
violet sphinx
indeed but nothing you can do about the latter other than branch out and try to ...
idk where tho
plus i dont have a mic rn
alpine trail
might be hard then if no mic
violet sphinx
where would i meet ppl tho cause ive tried lfging in here but i usually cant find anyone
alpine trail
i didn’t meet anyone for like ~1500 hours of playing so idk, i just met people when solo queueing and they invited me to battlecord a bit after which is pretty shit server
i started meeting ppl after that though just takes time and depends how social you are lol
violet sphinx
yeah ig
could u rec me to maybe any servers with people lfging for ranked tho cause my struggle is finding ppl to stack with
my only friend whos good is a roller and gets shit on by pc players so he prefers solo q
alpine trail
oh lame
violet sphinx
dm me
alpine trail
apexlfg in search thingy i’m lazy
for servers
but just letting you know beforehand like half the people have brain damage there so ot isn’t the best server
there’s just no better alternative until u meet ppl or get into pred discords
violet sphinx
there’s just no better alternative until u meet ppl or get into pred discords
im def not getting anywhere near pred/masters any time soon
nowhere near the skill needed for that
alpine trail
It will come with time
violet sphinx
my mechanics arent bad its mostly my game sense and team play
i play aggro and sometimes move without my team
alpine trail
yea that all will get better as long as ur aware of it
violet sphinx
yeah ig
alpine trail
communicating is important too tho and u said u had no mic so ranked might be a bit difficult at times
alpine trail
yeah but
sharp nova
Just buy cheap mic
alpine trail
people don’t read chat mid fight always
sharp nova
Ppl aren't gonna want to squad w u typing
alpine trail
i used to be like that as well until i realized the controller players i had in solo don’t read chat until they’re done fighting
violet sphinx
Just buy cheap mic
all the money i had saved i recently dropped on some shoes so i gotta wait
violet sphinx
i used to be like that as well until i realized the controller players i had in ...
i dont usually have rollers in my lobbies
violet sphinx
yeah
tbh ive been thinking about making the switch atp cause controller is rly good for apex
only thing u lack is movement and long range aim
alpine trail
only thing u lack is moving while looting in movement
violet sphinx
also smth like superglides tho
alpine trail
no
violet sphinx
which i use alot with my cfg
alpine trail
you can sg perfectly on controller
violet sphinx
oh
alpine trail
and ras strafing is easier
violet sphinx
im thinking about it atp
alpine trail
the “tapstrafe” bind for controller doesn’t spam scroll wheel, it spams the directional key you move your stick towards
violet sphinx
if itll make me better by switching to roller than i might since i have a ps4 controller
alpine trail
so u get like 10x the inputs
violet sphinx
so its way easier
alpine trail
i would only do that if you don’t care about mnk idk i got to pred on both inputs but went back to mnk in the end
because controller isn’t fun
fun is wat matters to me
violet sphinx
if i could just not be in kbm lobbies so i can relax when i play with my friends then i would def swap to roller
all my irls get tired of playing with me sometimes due to the sweats in pubs and ranekd
alpine trail
tell them to get good
placid root
Ok, the double clicking on my GPW is getting out of hand. Probably going to get a GPX since I'm scared to try anything else at this point.
teal moth
yeah
toxic magnet
Wasn’t that 3 stack Chaotic Zaine and Effect?
alpine trail
yes
alpine trail
1,2 and 5
toxic magnet
Yessir
white thicket
Oh wow you're pred?
Good shit my dude
if you'd be down we should 1v1 some time
I love fighting better players because I barely get the chance to in normal games lmao
toxic magnet
They haven’t fixed 1v1s yet?
white thicket
I've just been using octane pads at the guns
then you can pretty much instantly get back
might download r5reloaded just to run 1v1's ngl
toxic magnet
It’s a good idea
teal moth
no thanks
lethal wraith
violet sphinx
the whole server was rubber banding+no regs+cant move in a straight line at all
everyone was basically jittering all over the place
in ranked too
white thicket
apex experience
stiff rapids
violet sphinx
team lands cage then die instantly in ranked
after that game we have an afk teammate who runs away after we die
why is everyone throwing rp rn
teal moth
KC ranked is easy once you get the hang of it
buoyant mural
@teal moth wanna play pubs ?
teal moth
💀
pubs
i lost
Why would i ever play pubs when i can make a new account and grind it to masters
violet sphinx
just rat
got respawned and got a good amount of kp
waiting for teams to die so i can gain back all the rp ive lost today
buoyant mural
Why would i ever play pubs when i can make a new account and grind it to masters
...
you are right
@teal moth so create a new account and play ranked with me
😂
teal moth
Like legit only playable pub map is W.E
so half the time you have to sit-out waiting for a the good map
echo inlet
How should I 1v1 a controller player?
teal moth
And after u land it's like top 5 and i just leave
teal moth
How should I 1v1 a controller player?
long strafe
echo inlet
In firing range
buoyant mural
are controller players good at anti mirroring ?
echo inlet
Yeah but any short strafe means I get hit in the head 3-4 wingman shots for free
quaint karma
controller players don’t gotta do shit
teal moth
Aim assist is good at making you react faster
quaint karma
plus they got perfectly smooth input
teal moth
and correcting for your direction change
echo inlet
It's just hard to 1v1 a wingman controller
teal moth
Live doing short strafes challenge vs controller cqc (impossible)
Why would you 1v1 an assisted gamer
no point
they can be piss stuck d4
and win
I've lost 1v1's vs a piss stuck d4 asissted gamer
echo inlet
Why would you 1v1 an assisted gamer
Well he is my friend I try to capitalize on movement but the don't miss a single shot
Controller is absurdly op in this game
quaint karma
they do miss shots
you just have to hit more shots
they’ll randomly oneclip you but if they don’t you stand a fighting chance
echo inlet
We changed input and I beat him 6-1 him on mnk me on controller
violet sphinx
when are the best times to play ranked
echo inlet
But otherwise it's 10-7 for him
violet sphinx
when are the best times to play ranked
to get into lobbies that arent as sweaty
echo inlet
He even told me i don't aim with wingman i just strafe
violet sphinx
cause i feel like in the morning and at around like 7-12 at night the lobbies are less sweaty
echo inlet
40% aimbot
quaint karma
He even told me i don't aim with wingman i just strafe
it’s true
echo inlet
I mean I beat him on SMGs and ARs but on wingman and pk it's just way too difficult
buoyant mural
I mean I beat him on SMGs and ARs but on wingman and pk it's just way too diffic...
play wingman like smg
echo inlet
play wingman like smg
I try but I can't hit every single shot
I'm just mad at my self with 100h on kovaaks and platinum incomplete I get shit on by a handicapped aim assist crutch
I'm just tired. Picked up a controller for the first time and hit more wingman shots than I ever could
with mnk
near drift
I'm just mad at my self with 100h on kovaaks and platinum incomplete I get shit ...
100h and plat
Lol
echo inlet
"you have your whole arm"
echo inlet
Ur not beating a good roller at gm 800h
That's scary
near drift
It is
white thicket
Idk man in real scenarios maybe
play armor swaps and cover
use movement
if you just fight head on with a roller player though
ggs
echo inlet
How is this fair
near drift
if you just fight head on with a roller player though
I feel like thinking like this is detrimental
Fact is you cant tell which input a mf is on until he has killed you and stands for 10hrs on your box
Just take every fight like ur better than whoever it is ur tryna send to the lobby
echo inlet
Fact is you cant tell which input a mf is on until he has killed you and stands ...
Yeah
honest heron
Shouldn't be taking duels in general
near drift
Confidence is a skill gap
honest heron
Always be in the better spot
Lots of ppl will force a fight out of ego even tho it's a death sentence
honest heron
Like if there's no advantage just disengage
placid root
Fact is you cant tell which input a mf is on until he has killed you and stands ...
I can suddenly tell what input someone is when I lose 90% of my health from swinging a corner on 1 dude 💀💀💀
echo inlet
You're right
near drift
I can suddenly tell what input someone is when I lose 90% of my health from swin...
At that point ur already dead lmao
placid root
💀
echo inlet
I shouldn't take a straight 4m fight with an aimbot crutch
honest heron
Def not
Use 30 sec rule
If you can't get a clear advantage within 30 seconds you need to move
Fighting for longer than that is asking to be thirded
placid root
ye, if you can't finish a fight quick enough, there will be 6 third-parties
buoyant mural
anyone wanna queue together ?
echo inlet
Exactly
near drift
I feel like we like to complicate things tbf
placid root
anyone wanna queue together ?
pubs?
near drift
Be confident
placid root
Oh nvm, you're NA
near drift
And aim train
placid root
I'm EU
buoyant mural
just playing ranked arena for fun now
honest heron
Unless you are trying to bait a third
buoyant mural
pubs good
near drift
You will def get better
honest heron
That's the thing tho most ppl don't know what good fights are
They just see enemy and shoot on sight
near drift
I know what a good fight is
But sometimes i just really
Really want to kill the bastard using a charge
placid root
alpine trail
Like legit only playable pub map is W.E
storm point is good
candid sparrow
Storm point too big imo makes it boring as fuck
Then again I just shoot the first thing I see so that could be the problem
white thicket
idk man i just had a crazy game
the issue is the zone changes
aren't made for storm point at all lol
fringe pike
I don’t get why they had to mess with the damage as well as the timings lol
white thicket
yeah lmao it sucks
I'm a fucking solo valk main and i have been dying to the zone
that's when you know there is an issue with ring
best rotation character dies to zone
toxic magnet
Zone 1 and 2 should not tick as much as it does
white thicket
zone 1 and I'm fighting for my life