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but im sure theres grinders here that did it
i got 60 for the scout one
i got 110
nah chief thats a terrible score
step it up
if ur in this server you should def hit 100+
unless ur on roller
factual
dont you just love seeing your random pub lifeline die and then hearing 'idiot' in the heaviest eastern european accent you can imagine
my favorite
yes thats how i improve as well, by blaming my deaths on my teammates

Are you kidding? Scapegoating is my fucking spirit animal
Iβm your dad
I'm old enough to probably be someone's dad 
Cause winning in the game is not common at all and so far only like 1% of the overall comp players have won anything over a 5K
i only did it once
Itβs hard af to win a tourney esp a tier one
me when voltaic skill doesnt translate to game skill
I just recently found out hal is only 23 I was shocked I thought this mf was atleast 30
True
taisheen looks 30+ dude yeah
Also mande is a demon
but scarz hasn't had any good results besides that one EU finals
kings canyon is so aids
And mande is legit the best player in EU imo
My face says 20, my hairline says 40 
huhhhh
Mande just does insane shit effortlessly
dude I was so shocked when I saw mande was leading in killz but the team was at like last place
I was like wtf
Hard carry
Idk
He became weeb man
wait is there a tourney rn?
shit teams tho
idk what is worse ESA or VNM
ESA imo
both are bad but VNM can get kinda crazy
depends if all the big boys get into the same lobby or not
nah
honestly think that team is gonna fall apart soon
Is SEN still a thing
their past two tourneys were terrible
did they get lazy or something?
well i see them streaming again every day now
how is caprah competing?
isnt he too young
How old
16 IIRC
Uh
bro's a grinder
last i heard he was 15 so hed have to be 16 now
yeah
caprah is 15 forever
hes competing in this tournament tho
ye they fried first two games
the new generation of apex players are gonna be nutty
Algs is
but inconsistent I think
man why tf is my apex downloading so slow after redownloading windows
i cannot do anything this season
everyone just instantly became aceu over a few weeks
pubs is so sweaty
then become aceu 2
no thats not what im saying
why did pubs become this hot garbage
im just trying to chill with some friends
Apex is not for fun
its been like this
cant chill
its literally been like this since i started playing
ur probably starting to realize
s10
yes
Big fan
it's me!
im a lot better now and i still think its the sweatiest shit


it was not this bad last season
it was
i played a lot last season
i did too
i miss olympus
still felt like hot shit to play in
over kc
did my skill just disappear in the change of a season
the only reason why I find this season more obnoxious is because new legend + shit canyon
i actually enjoy pubs duoQing but otherwise its not fun
like overnight?
probably not
same
im playing to clip farm rn to post a new video then hop on the val train or smth
i palyed arenas almost exclusively all throughout s10 and s11
and somewhat s12
pubs was way too hard when i started in s10
i had like a 1.2 kd or something
and i wanted to get better, only way to not get sent back to lobby all the time was to play arenas
Yoo sweet i learning
the forbidden dodge tech
Of not running straight to cover
and doing W + S
Rust type beat
pubs is too hard with this kd??
Wait
Zig-Zag dodging bullets
IS better if you snap
instead of doing it smoothly maybe
is to me yes
but then again i know some people have .5kds and somehow enjoy games
im just not that person
i have a .8 π
Avg dmg > kd
well lets be real here, past a certain point kd only really shows where you drop
if you hot drop ALWAYS your kd will be lower
which i do
i could drop in spots where im guaranteed a gun ands ome loot
and have a 5kd or some shit
but at the same time i dont think your mechanics are even close to being good enough with gold vt
π¬
for apex
well theres also plenty of people better than me who just win absolutely every single 1v1 in the history of mankind
or just yk
finish their 1v1s quicker so they take less damage
so they can then fight the next person
im just not good enough

Bruh ur jade and ur kd is 1.2 on pubs
this was in the season i started playing\
well that's 1 year ago lmao
yes
i started s9 didn't realize
that's a god damn year + ago
Idk my stats
are just my ranked stats
I've played 1 whole pub match
lmao
ok i lied
i have 4 pub games played
wait what
155-151
No
have they never been separated ?

i thought they were bugged since last season
thats dumb
what lol
istg that is a bug there is no way respawn is dumb enough to do something like that
literally
just subtract your ranked games
from all your other games
Man kc is wraming up on me
You can just turn your brain off an ape
Half the time you lose
half the time you go +500 RP 15+ kill win (more like 1/5 times)

no cope
i just land skull town
and prayge
i dont get 3rd'ed whole game and ape ppl
i mean are you 3stacking
soloqing up to diamond seems to be bearable with the KP change
no clue ive never done it before
lifeline moment
Arena

No life + controller + 0 bitches + fat = pred 1
I just think ppl in this community salivate over pred rank
Especially because number 1 vs number 300 is literally just playtime
I think thats false but
There are def some diamonds that could shit on a lot of these preds
Yeah
Plats In pred lobbies hit diff tho
I just dont think people should give credit to unhealthy playing habits just cause its ranked
Pred lobbies are scary, my feeble plat brain cannot handle it
or their job
in no context is sitting in a chair for 80/90% of 8 hours healthy
People defend the lifestyle tho
Gold lobbies = rat for placement
Pred lobbies = APE APE APE
true
This
I was running for my fucking life
Stream for like 4/5 hours get some money from ads and get off
bro even if i did have the skill to hit pred grinding like 10 hours a day aint worth it
unless i start streaming
I wonder how many games chaoticmuch has this season
literally like 14 hours a day since the start of the season
but even then theres like 400 bazillion other pred tier players trying to also stream and grind
I dont think its something EA can address but I still think other streamers should point it out
cause in reality it is just a shit ton of controller players from cod over relying on AA
Yeah theyre good
Ranked is a joke
True but he also gets alot new viewers just for being the #1 pred
At the same time
It's only useful to play against skilled ppl
also true LMAO
Anyone else think playing seer is cringe
yes
Ig but if his "new viewer" count is only like 2k, i dont think playing that much is worth
If you are a main that's kinda based
bro i was thinking seer was still insanely good after they nerfed him but everyone was like "seers dogshit now" and stopped playing him and i didnt say shit cause i was 100% fine with not playing into that pain in the ass
Lowkey if he keeps the #1 for the whole season and makes yt videos he could get his average viewers maybe up to 5k
I play seer newcastle this split
Or more
newcastle broken AFFFFFFF
Newcastle slaps
Newcastle with golden knock
Yes maybe
but still
Literally unkillable
dude could genuinely have some really bad health side effects from continuing this streaming schedule
Pick newcastle + land caustic u will make it out alive 1 out of 10 times
And u win
That 1 gmaae
Game
π©
it is nice that gibby has like actual competition
but prob just means that itll be gib newcastle
instead of gib or newcastle
maggie newcastle horizon
asking if anyone wants to que ranked at midnight on NA ur a demon
i have hated caustic since s0
Its not midnight
almost midnight for me mb
pisses me the fuck off
Its only 10
people get weird
Mfw am in the same zip code as a caustic barrel and it goes off
5am eu lobbies 3 squads alive in ring 2
its not
had a ex masters/pred PC friend swap to roller
was beaming within 50-100 hours of swapping
Ive played my whole life mnk i tried controller and that shits hard
I cant aim
How u aim with a joystick
you dont need too AA does it for u
How long would it take to learn controller if u never played it
hmm
depends
i bet 50-100 hours to be competent for u. and like 200 to be up to par
i started keeping track of what killed me
and PC rollers are now the majority
so might as well join them shue
bet by 2023 mnk players in apex will be a critically endangered species
about 60-70% of players were PC rollers of the 5 games i kept track of (i would check each person the squad)
wait dongie is japanese
How can u tell if someone is roller or not
if they stand still while looting your box
the way they look, and if they stand still whil;e looting deathbox
a dead giveaway is like a linear roller turn
Ok
its hard to describ but they only move the camera in one direction be it vertical or horizontal
the other is like
Play NA and 100% of the people that kill you will stand still on your box
idk roller camera movement can be a super dead giveaway especially if its a lower sens
real
honestly i have no idea
im not a roller expert id consult youtube for roller advice
I watched extesy's settings yesterday
game is jsut much easier on the roller and people seem to have realized that
even if just subconsciously cuz i see them try and deny it
π
i mean
I play mnk for movement
literally every competent PC player i know says roller is broken
Fuck da roller
who needs movement when i beam you for 200
be the hybrid degen
I go wallbounce with mastiff pew pew oh wait u have aim assist
with prowler
If you can't beat em...
i was shitting on him all game until he got lucky that one round
POINT SIX!!!!!!!!
PS3 controller gaming
my hope is the devs nerf roller to 0.3 and console to 0.4 on PC but it will never happen
aint happening
yep
why i dont play apex anymore
get better
one of the reasons anyway
that also helps
If I can't beat a roller with strafing then it is too powerful
Roller players move like bots
π€¨
Just run around
everyone moves like a bot tbf
He wont catch u!
its so easy to see when someones new to apex
he might not but the AA will π
even if they think their movement is hot shit
You can't win a 1v1 against a good roller player unless you have better positioning
Also roller players cant throw nades
easy to spot ngl
Bcuz of stick drift
Aim duel literally impossible
wheres that clip of like
tbh not everything that a roller player does is a oneclip
Roller players just rely on aim assist
No movement or utility
Well he was new to it
he has like multiple hundred hours on it atp
at the time of the cip
from what i know
clip
Is it the one in lava siphon
yes
its an old clip but its a clip of tsm_snipedown saying he could 1v1 literally every mnk player and win 80-90% of the time. no matter his skill because he's on roller
Kek
I waiting for respawn to change the fucking respawn system
It's so bad
Holy shit
Most unfun system ever
I mean the whole process of picking up the banner and rezzing
You should just be able to buy back dead teammates
Just use crypto 
If you time out you literally can't play the game anymore
ive been killed by a tiktoker controller player
It's so stupid
The long ass animation doesn't help 
like when the people using controller at a pro tier saying how broken af and easy it is and not defending it at all you know theres a problem
Also
if i was roller id have oneclipped this dude
for sure
cuz itd have just adjusted my aim back onto him
Trying to armor swap and u loot ur teammates banner 
True
if i ever come back to apex im pluggin in the roller
Ill prob try controller again today
I don't have a roller so ggez
Ill make a whole new apex account for roller
from what i know hal has a lot of past roller experience
No
and hes been playing roller on apex off and on for like a year and a half

Any rank any server
What if u play mnk and controller
That's not really that much time
you cannot make this shit up
Mnk for start and switch to controller endgame
π
yeah you could do that
If I play ranked now I'll just throw
fuck roller anyways
Seer players use their gamesense challenge impossible
real
im convinced most of the playerbase is literally artificially uplifted by the grace of their soft aimbot
in terms of mechanics
correct
Extesy has some aimbot ACL settings for controller i tried them
which one
im not convinved I know
ive seen it
LOL
The crosshair moves normally on ads but when its close to an enemy it just stops and locks on the enemy
based
full roller 3stack squad
Its actually crazy
Like seriously
bro or the slow roller turn around
and u know ur about to get fucked
Fuck outta here

Pubs are the sweatiest shit
Had to exterminate the filth from the lobby
pubs are in the worst state ive ever seen them
If I see a charge rifle or a seer in pubs I'm aping you
I sometimes die like 5 games in a row by purpose so i get less sweatier lobbies
Shits not fun
honestly i dont mind the sweaty lobbies its just dont give me a fucking bot on my team going against a pred roller 3 stack
but its just not feasible doing it through arenas or pubs
Control was good for so many skills
how is that in engine aimtrainer coming along
No word yet
Or when apex decides to not give u teammates at all
But I know a guy with access

Skeptation
Cool fella
It'll be posted in the r5 reloaded server when it's done I think
im ngl i would basically improve overnight if that was a thing
theres things that are obvious to me that i do in kovaaks but somehow fail to do in actual game sometimes
and if i just had a place to work on those
in game
just for a bit
id be good
Yeah
Beta males using aim trainers
Virgin clicking fan vs Chad dodge enjoyer
Dodge is the best scenario type
Search your feelings, you know it to be true
π₯
Yes click head in a game with so much downtime it's not even worth doing
U have 6k hours on aim trainers?
bro what
Nobody does
no
N
He was saying that you would need to spend far more time playing apex to match him in skill
OK
But if you aim trained you'd reach it in a fraction of the time
Which is demonstrably true
i would need to spend 6000 hours ingame to be as good as him bcuz hes using an aim trainer
It was hyperbole
yk, i forgot who
i think it was hollow
he has a video where he palys a pub game and plays aggressively and pushes like every fight
and like wasnt it 1 minute of fighting
for a 20m game
not even just pure aiming
something like that
anyways
Ape zone
so you get to aim 1 minute out of 20
if you play aimtrainers you get to aim 20 out of 20
π
20x more volume
Easy to see why that's beneficial
There are very few people that are insanely good at aiming that think aim training is a waste of time
just paly aimlab then
idk people be going to mcdonalds twice a day spending 20
eating a burger in 2 minutes
then cant cough up the 10 for kovaaks or whatever it costs
Kovaaks is very straight to the point and has more customisation
I have 1.86β¬
skill issue
And also
you wont survive the week
It's 10 bucks bro
argentina steam acc
unlucky
I did buy aimbeast on sale tho
I got free food in school
Cos fuck spending 40 bucks on that
anyway if i didnt wanna pay id just get aimlab
i bought kovaaks for 5 bucks when it was on sale
and why is there lobby music
massive value purchase
And why is the music so bad

woudlnt know i muted it instantly
and i hate the 321 thing
U play aimtrainers with sound on?
Yes?
Ok
Hitsounds exist
aimtrainers dont generally have music
you can change it
hitsound makes it 10x more fun
well imma just stick to kvoaaks anyways
Kovaaks is very simple for my lizard brain
Plus more scenarios for things that I want to work on
Aimlabs is a bit cringe
Yes
i put the intermediate one in my playlist
I didn't know how to mirror until I started playing LGC3
never played that ngl
peple still play that?
QL?
quake live
Quake live
It's not
idk id only be playing that for improvement personally
There is literally an active competitive scene
quake champions still has some players left, heard u can get into matches on EU
just gonna stick to OW and aimtrainers tho
Well I'm interested because quake players are historically the best trackers
By a mile
kovaaks was made for quake i thot
quake live is averaging 250 players a week bro if that aint dead idk what is π
Kovaak was a quake nerd
yee he was
actually might still find some matches in quake live. i think its a server based game
will prob be only a few active servers tho
The fact that ppl like ins recommend it is good enough for me
who?
quake god
yeah i wish quake champions wasnt very dead in NA
Fact
ins is goat
game seems like a lot of fun
idk if i wouldve liked it but i wouldve atleast tried it
250 players per week?
thats nothing
i hvae a browser game which is pretty much dead now and i get 1.5k unique visitors on the site per week
and its dead most hours of the day
π
Yes, but are my neopets still alive?
Brooooo
whats a neopet
I forgot about neopets
is that like tamagotchi
Core memory unlocked holy shit
No
my general rule is that anything below 500 average players needs a server browser otherwise i never find a game
I'm glad someone was old enough to get it 
and anything below 200 is really rough for enjoying the base game since that usually means the game is turbo dead and whatever is left is some custom niche community
Apparently another quake is coming
custom niche communities can make games alive for many, many years
thats what happened to guns
I mean
doom eternal is so fucking good
everyone here should play through doom eternal and its dlcs on nightmare
ID hasn't been the best at multiplayer offerings as of late, but I'd love to be proven wrong. Their single player and engine work is insane though.
I still have to do the DLC for eternal actually.
dlc is way harder
first one anyways
second one they took a step back
unfortunately
i played through the og quake and was good
my head cannon is dusk is the quake remake
because it basically is
Yeah I heard the possessed adds some challenge. That I'm OK with, because honestly near the end of Eternal I felt like the challenge kind of dipped.
After the midway point you know how to deal with every unit, and you have larger arenas to kite if necessary. Pretty much the major end game enemies were Archvile spawns.
its nerfed too, was really fun before that
its way harder not just because of that
I'll have to check it out then
im pretty sure they put it back to pre nerf after the community complained about it
my first 4k
What son
imagine if wraith had a real passive
or if her Q was just a tad quicker
or her port went further
mfw someone is aiming a kraber at my head and the schizo voice in my head says "they mightve seen you"
sigmas stand still and let them hit you once so you know where they are
gigachad
Mfw I just ate 60 damage and you think someone might be looking at me
Smaller hitbox per beacon 
since apex needs more wallhacks, when pathfinder scans beacons the beacon should also reveal every player in the map like that one place in KC
thoughts?
Respawn: That sounds like a great idea. So here's this new legend who's passive reveals every legend in the map when scanning beacons. Also we felt like Pathfinder was too strong so we are adding 10 seconds cd to his ult
Is there a voltaic playlist in kovaaks for apex?
https://clips.twitch.tv/NaiveDeliciousHyenaArgieB8-qIt06oh7UrQL_Stl what is this crap
why do you slide cancel?
itβs dongie. pro players do what they want. π₯±
what is a slide cancel
π
they were reviving there and right in my fucking crosshairs, why the fuck did none of those bullets land?
im on a fucking 4K screen surely I should be able to see them better than all the shitters on console playing at 720p
based Dongie
cheating 100%, the same kinda fuckfaces that are in my lobbies, after they get banned off their main account, they keep making new ones and just aimbotting and griefing casuals
dongie actually spitting facts rn
Whats the difference?
yeah literally
can't even tell
both hit every bullet in CQC with no effort so yeah
In cs we call that soft aimlock
swear the audio is like extra broken this season
But on a roller its not that soft
sad so many pros swap to controller π€£
It gets exponentially worse every season
literally never had audio problems in apex
yall playing it wrong
doing pretty good in S14 so far
no 0.2 kd anymore??
u started cheating dongie wtf
still 0.2
Undisputed weapon tier list
skullpiercer weapons with skullpiercer high/top tier and sentinel high tier*********
R3 should be high tier other than that its pre accurate
Some stuff should be moved from bottom to low tier tho
Prowler, tt
my boy dongie
literally wat
here's waepon tier list:
alternator, re45, charge rifle w/scope, longbow w/scope = top tier
everything else = shit tier
EZ
i don't even pickup anything from shit tier even if I have no weapons unless i need a holder for something like sniper stock or scope
me too because i'm a seasoned wwe 2k player so i punch people a lot
go to next loot location to find something
tons of games where I'm in top 10, no guns/suboptimal gun or no scope, and both teammates are across the map somewhere dead.
so I just disconnect and start a new game.
loot on KC is absolutely horrendous dogshit
like it was bad before update, they managed to make it worse
where do u drop
as soon as dropping is allowed
Might aswell stop playing rank for this split
Kings canyon is so ass
And my plat teammates insta die
should i play ranked and try to get out of bronze
yea dont bring that K/D down
In the future, social credit will be based off your K/D
i love dongie
brother is this for this season?
whats this tierlist based on lol
have yall tried the rampage this season? im saying that unironically
Ok what else
how are they not shit
Lol ok
mozam op
how is the peter low tier???
hello??
and the eva 8 should be high tier at least
i dont fw it but its good this season
gun sucks
aint no way you never got your shit railed by these weapons
the things that have been done to me with a prowler
lol shit gun
and kraber is still insane bro, 2nd to highest tier at least imo
nahh your tierlist aint it

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dongie
my brother
you cant be the only bad Japanese gamer

The triple take is better at doing a shotgun's job than the mozambique
lol
uhh no
wait, you actually unironically put prowler at the bottom of the list π
so when do you use it
Ok but what does it do better than the r99 or car
What does mozambique do better than literally any weapon in the game? π
Prowler has way better damage per magazine than R99, better hipfire, better for quick peeks
so you think moving 15% faster is worth all the dps u lose
quick peeks why not pk
self report
also mozam quick peeks mogs prowler so that's irrelevant
Prowler has farther reach, though obviously I'm not comparing it to the PK we're talking R99
And R99 honestly doesn't have much better DPS than Prowler
uhh yeah it does
idk wingman mozam better for that lol, mozam probs has better range than prowler hip fire
and if ur not hip firing then it's even more pointless
R99 is especially bad with fortified legends too because the shit ass tiny mag and reduced damage
Wait are you kidding? Do you know how far you can Prowler hip? The range is stupid good lol
mozam mogs it I guarantee it
You will not 1-mag someone without an extended light mag, using an R99
Skill issue
not really
if your enemies are not bots you're dead
it takes like 20 seconds to empty a prowler mag lol
Ah yeah, I guess they will walk off like 230 damage, will they? π
bro missed an entire mag and instantly dislikes the gun π
like maybe if ur on controller and recoil is hard for u then yeah its good
no I dislike it because its high ttk
prowlers not bad but im taking every other smg over it
exactly
So you'd rather need 93% accuracy on every R99 mag dump than Prowler which will let you avoid more damage by utilizing cover, have better hipfire at range, and have nearly double damage capacity before needing to reload
Just for 30 DPS
are you often running a secondary where its not viable at all at close range
why are you hip firing at range
Because you can with the Prowler? Lol shit is a fucking laser
utilising cover lol then use a wingy or a mozam lol or. bow
i can easily atleast hit an enemy for 100 consistently with r99 or do even more then finish them off with my secondary
Why do you keep bringing up other guns? You were talking about R99 vs Prowler idiot
why would u use an smg for cover
Because prowler is a burst weapon, no point literally standing in the open waiting for the reset and eating shots
but why do you take a prowler for that
I can't imagine it better than a wing pk or mozam or even Eva double tap
Again, we're talking about R99 vs Prowler. Other guns aren't part of the discussion
Because you're trying to list reasoning as to why you'd choose R99 over Prowler when you haven't given any credible talking points about why.
R99 is a fun SMG but man if not for the alternator it'd statistically be the weakest.
idk ur talking about peeking in and out of cover at range with the prowler like just lol..
The Alternator is so good though π³
Because damage mitigation is just as important as hitting shots? You can't do damage if your ass is knocked.
I 1-mag people so much with an alternator
I like it early
It is ol' reliable, that's for sure.
like if I drop next to someone I'd rather get an alternator than r99 but I'd have to make a separate tier list for early game
I think that's just movement skill issue
just dodge better mate
and if ur peeking then take a longbow or wing or some shit lol
Again, why are you bringing up other guns and scenarios into the equation of R99 vs Prowler.
You haven't made a single argument for why R99 is better besides bringing up other guns.
I don't need to educate u
Like yes if I'm up close and peeking cover a PK is gonna be a better burst than Prowler, but we're not talking about PK we're talking about those two guns in a bubble
those who know know
You need to focus on your own education first there bud.
I think this peeking from cover damage mitigation thing is a meme anyway lol


