Anyone know of any lfg servers for this game
#finals
silk oyster
serene scaffold
so this game same as apex now wif rewasd etc
acoustic ferry
lol i tried the rewasd shit
its insane
but
u can clearly tell if someone is using it
if we had a spectate option on kills
serene scaffold
snap to head just use sniper 
outer gale
I think that's just hit reg in general. The only way I feel the server side stuff affect my aim is when it affects my movement and causes me to start slightly bouncing in weird unpredictable directions and stuff like that.
crimson glade
yea i wish there was death cams
There needs to be for the simple fact that it helps identify cheaters
quiet vector
Also if I get shit on I wanna see it
crimson glade
Or I'd be cool if it auto panned to who killyou and highlighted them
But not a replay
outer gale
The spec cam is still pretty bad rn tho, it needs to be fixed a little to have a reliable death cam
crimson glade
For sure
I like you can gather info
That aspect is interesting
Why can't I fly through walls with it? Lol
But the window is OK
Totally unnecessary annoyance
uneven adder
Clean
proud phoenix
@acoustic ferry really
dim herald
rip
mental pecan
clean
chilly topaz
m60 and revolver 60% and 67% damage falloff
real
uneven adder
m60 and revolver 60% and 67% damage falloff
yeah the revolver is utter trash atm
serene scaffold
The revolver bullet just go thru enemy and do 0 dmg
chilly topaz
Nothing beats hitting a light for 148 tho
potent musk
i would have never tracked that smooth if i wasnt neglected as a child
worthy vale
Most normal Voltaic moment.
potent musk
Toast at war.
acoustic ferry
based tren abuser
long plinth
taking tren
fluid rampart
showed my friends the game and the very first round we had c4 barrel guys I don't think they will play again
lament steppe
shoulda waited for the patch
it's coming(any day now)
honestly fuck consoles if this wasn't a crossplay game it woulda been patched already, no cap. The reason it's taking so long is cus consoles have a fucking 2 week waiting/verification period
Patch is probably already done but still going through the verification period so we might not see it for 1-2 weeks >:[
fluid rampart
I will never understand how fps have made it into consoles
lament steppe
because back in the early xbox 360 days, PC was really expensive. Like prohibitively expensive. So gaming on xbox360/ps3 became the norm until PC price/performance improved later on
fluid rampart
I see. I kinda had a PC since always I didn't know that
lament steppe
and then MS realized they could make games exclusive to console to rake in the money and force people to buy xbox, and the rest is.. yea it was all business/marketing
it sucks
I had one, too. But my PC back then cost twice as much as the 360 and had half the performance. I used it to play Diablo II a lot, though. I was a pvp monster for that game, literally went undefeated for 6 months at one point
I played call of duty 1, halo 1 on PC but after that moved to xbox 360 until I could afford a great gaming laptop in college again
fluid rampart
I didn't play the glory days of D2 :(
lament steppe
though back then I was a hyper high sens gaming, was like 0.5cm/360. Was actually not bad at all considering how much I handicap myself
fluid rampart
oh yeah I played high sens for a very long time
lament steppe
wish I could go back in time though, practice my aim back then at a decent sens. Would've learned so much quicker
fluid rampart
same man I have been playing fps for 18ish years but only started aim training not even a year ago
fluid rampart
nah man I'm 32 lol
desert cobalt
https://docs.google.com/spreadsheets/d/1gpmUFpwwZwmV33h42sR0eFAxfApp3eSoXPFcykNw...
Thanks for sharing! Do you know of any centralized place of where these resources are shared? The wiki is pretty underdeveloped atm.
stark geyser
makes learning slow
oof, kinda glad i picked it up a bit earlier, but still
lament steppe
lfg ranked
quiet vector
lesgo
sharp stag
wish I could go back in time though, practice my aim back then at a decent sens....
kovaaks released in 2018 i believe
blissful valley
the fuck is tren
trenbolone acetate
rare elk
@quiet vector @sharp stag yo im in ur game
quiet vector
oh shit what was your name
sharp stag
did u ever find diamond players to play with
rare elk
yea im currently playign with em
sharp stag
nice
sharp stag
U GUYS GRIEFED US WAT LOL
lament steppe
yea lets pretend you won with skill and not because you were gifted a dumbass spawn
rare elk
💀
rare elk
my teamates are top 150
mental pecan
randoms always got some shit 2 say
rare elk
we won somehow the game fixed the glitch
mental pecan
heavy players
mental pecan
are heavy irl too
mental pecan
sharp stag
long plinth
I played heavy once or twice
It was funny af lol
Light player chases you on zip > rpg to the face
Fucking 1 shots 
Literally just a power trip
acoustic ferry
heavy is more fun
but i think medium is better
good aim, fcar, recon, sweaty positioning
that beats heavy
fair falcon
violet halo
good aim, fcar, recon, sweaty positioning
medium is for ppl who knows what they are doing lol
i like it
better than light
acoustic ferry
skill ceiling higher on medium for sure than any other class, normies will think its light
opal trench
skill ceiling higher on medium for sure than any other class, normies will think...
My opinion, light is just invis dash -> shoot full mag -> invis dash out to reload -> repeat this cycle
agile socket
don't forget the stun gun
i switched from light to medium and the game has become easy mode
fcar shreds and akm just doesnt run out of bullets
worthy vale
If only they'd swallow their pride and buff the sniper.
proud phoenix
Ugh fighting controllers is so fun
outer gale
skill ceiling higher on medium for sure than any other class, normies will think...
Talking about a "skill ceiling" this early into the game and its development is very ignorant to say the least, there is not really a way at this point to determine what would be the highest skill ceiling class beside making a general opinion based on the few facts about those classes we do know right now.
proud phoenix
@acoustic ferry i think light definnitely has the highest skill cieling if youre not using Shotty + Invis
mystic reef
tbh that hardly says much when like 90% of that skill is simply based around not dying to literally everything
outer gale
<:4Head:894616359634362430>
proud phoenix
wait lights have a barrel 1 shot too?
quiet vector
This game barely has skill ceiling anywhere so far let's be fr
Only skill ceiling is not being an idiot cause the rest of the mechanics are easy
outer gale
This game barely has skill ceiling anywhere so far let's be fr
Right? It's completely unexplored and has no room to be understood to it's full extent yet.
quiet vector
These recent years ppl just insta give end all opinions on games just as they come out based on other unrelated games
THAT BEING SAID LIGHT ON TOP BAYBEEEEE
mystic reef
light on top of worst class tierlist
proud phoenix
Light is on top for being an annoyin lil gnat
outer gale
You guys are so opinionated on this 😂
proud phoenix
The only way Ive fought lights that get good value are ones that use DB shotgun
and just 1 shot people while I try to find them in their invis on Low settings
outer gale
The biggest reason why it literally does not matter what opinion is held about the current tiers for each class is because of how lopsided the meta is. When the meta changes due to class adjustments and reworks you guys might have completely different opinions from now.
outer gale
Even if no adjustments are made, there could very well be hundred of things solely about the classes that we have not explored yet and there would be so much more than hundreds of things about how those things play into the strategy that cannot be accounted for right now.
outer gale
when things change people's opinion changes? that's crazy damn...
Exactly. It should be that simple to look at and realize...
proud phoenix
All I want out of a meta
is for all this 1 shot bullshit out of the game and for there to be more gunplay
quiet vector
Just play whatever you have fun playing
Games are supposed to be fun
Meta slaving boring
proud phoenix
Ill tell you what, barrel 1 shots arent fun
outer gale
is for all this 1 shot bullshit out of the game and for there to be more gunplay
I think certain 1 shot metas should exist, but I agree, some things are a little ridiculous at the moment, like every engagement starting with a heavy double C4 1 shot barrel and a followup RPG...
mystic reef
the issue with meta slaving is that there's no counter
quiet vector
Every class has cheese
proud phoenix
Ya every class does, thats why they have to nerf it
proud phoenix
Recon, Nukes, and invis should all be nerfed imo
outer gale
Sure, medium has healing OP rn, but light past KO round 1 literally just gets squished like a pancake rn with no contest.
proud phoenix
Also defib should not give i-frames
outer gale
There is clearly an issue with lights being non-meta atm which I'm sure will be fixed eventually through meta changes within each class.
proud phoenix
Light just needs to be less gimmicky and have more utility
mystic reef
@crimson glade https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=ksBj-dBOIFw
outer gale
<@384042361392463882> https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=ksBj-dBOIFw
Answer: "no" xD
mystic reef
tbh I found myself agreeing with stuff, I think Quick Cash > Tournament is better
outer gale
I was just answering the title :P
outer gale
tbh I found myself agreeing with stuff, I think Quick Cash > Tournament is bette...
Do you think that each tournament round should follow the style of Quick Cash?
(except the final round)
mystic reef
yes, but the final round should be the same also
I think it's weird that the final round is a 3v3
the way I see it is that a consistent 3v3v3 is better than an inconsistent 3v3v3v3
outer gale
Honestly, I'm not opposed to either of those ideas nor the idea of keeping what we have now.
proud phoenix
Thoughts on this guy, I'm like 95% sure he is cheating
The 0 recoil and his reaction to movement speed changes seem wayyyy too smooth
serene scaffold
looks like cheating just locking dead center
proud phoenix
Ya that too, there's a few times where his crosshair snaps to center mass instantly when he aims to llw
outer gale
https://youtu.be/G9ELI6Naf2Q?si=8MH9CIybXzVmwXQd
I didn't understand why you thought that until about 1:25 when he tracks the guy while jumping. Definitely looks like AA integrated aiming, which according to another video someone else posted, is not really an uncommon occurance currently, sadly.
It's not about the fact that he did track him, but rather the way that he tracked him. There was 0 human delay between the hop and the aim movement and tracking. There is usually at least a little inconsistency that the human eye can detect when that many direction changes occur at once.
Though, looking at the rest of the video, the majority of the clips don't look all too fishy. Idk...
Another example: The way he aims at 1:13 when tracking down, but also jumping mid track looks fishy unless he just perfectly countered balanced his aim in conjunction with the jump while tracking downward, which isn't impossible, it has to be done in some games to aim perfectly, but it does seem fishy to do in a brand new game.
mental pecan
Thoughts on this guy, I'm like 95% sure he is cheating
literally impossible to tell
proud phoenix
@outer gale be also is stationary in a few clips with practically zero recoil. Like the clip he beams the guy on the crane, he is crouched and landing every shot. I'm sure a lot of people can do that in kovaaks but not with the recoil
outer gale
<@185773011838828545> be also is stationary in a few clips with practically zero...
Right, I'm assuming benefit of the doubt that he has already somehow perfectly learned every recoil he is using in those clips. Just simply because you never know just how quickly some people may be able to adapt to some things like that and I do say that very loosely ofc.
outer gale
literally impossible to tell
I wouldn't say impossible, but it would be very difficult to say with 100% certainty.
proud phoenix
People with decent aim and soft aim / recoil scripts are always hard to tell
glad lintel
aye thats me
mental pecan
aye thats me
you gotta answer the accusations now
glad lintel
im down to screenshare and let any 1 go through my pc whenever whatever ill be on all day nothing to hide here (:
lament steppe
My opinion, light is just invis dash -> shoot full mag -> invis dash out to relo...
How are you invis dashing? You either have invis or dash, or smoke bomb which has too long of a cooldown to use like that.
opal trench
How are you invis dashing? You either have invis or dash, or smoke bomb which ha...
Should've put a /
My bad
lament steppe
Talking about a "skill ceiling" this early into the game and its development is ...
It's honestly not hard to figure out. If you're talking about skill ceiling, medium is highest, followed by heavy, and light is last by a large amount.
Heavy has it's floor the closest to it's ceiling, and light's skill floor is furthest from it's ceiling, even though it's ceiling is still worse than a decent medium.
That generally means a brand new player will get the most value out of heavy, and the least value out of light, with medium being somewhere inbetween, although I think medium has a decently high skill floor if you're a solid aimer
The only reason I recommend medium instead of heavy to new players is because it's starter kit is already really good, with AKM, Heals, defib, and pad all unlocked with zero investment. Both heavy and light need a couple of unlocks before they can popoff
When people talk about skill ceiling, it's w/ the current balance patch. We know changes are coming, but we don't know what they are. However, until those changes come, the current patch is well enough known to understand skill floors/ceilings. These also won't actually change all that much with balance patches unless there are MAJOR class reworks or whole bunch of new gadgets/specs added.
willow sorrel
Imo, medium also requires more tactic skills (mostly to support team) and it is harder to get it right than heavy and light. By design, heavy's role is easier for newbie to understand (shield etc is easy to use), light is harder than heavy to master its utilization but still while easy to get on (grapple, cloak, dash, stun gun) but medium with recon, pad, zipline, turret etc is quite hard for newbie to even have any idea how to use it. Tho, defib and heal are dead easy
lament steppe
The 0 recoil and his reaction to movement speed changes seem wayyyy too smooth
His tracking mostly looks legit but yea he's got no recoil at all, and a ton of the clips he's not using recoil smoothing(standing still against targets that aren't moving fast enough to use smoothing with)
who knows he might just have really well hidden cheats but I don't see anything that makes me think anything but anti-recoil
crimson glade
I hope they all get nuked by space lasers
lament steppe
https://youtu.be/G9ELI6Naf2Q?t=76
1:16 on the crane is the easiest one to see. Target is too far for him to get recoil smoothing while standing still. maximize vid and use a monitor crosshair, that thing is completely stationary
lament steppe
tracking looks legit otherwise though
willow sorrel
🤣 man sometimes I wonder if The Finals is a bit unlucky to be released in this golden of era cheating
strong AA, XIM, rWASD, A.I wallhack/aimbot etc
lament steppe
🤣 man sometimes I wonder if The Finals is a bit unlucky to be released in this...
Nah. Cheating got REALLY bad, like REALLY REALLY bad around the time of crossplay release
it's been absolutely awful these last few years
lament steppe
like ofc there were cheaters before that, but they were honestly not that common. Like even PUBG which was horribly hacked, I only ran into actual cheaters occasionally. Only a few semi pros(like 3) were using radar
willow sorrel
yeah I feel the same too
lament steppe
nowadays you boot up tarkov.. literally more cheaters in your lobbies than legit players
lament steppe
in apex when I was grinding master a few seasons ago, I was playing w/ one of the devs, dude we ran into hard cheaters 3/4 our game
It was actually fucking hilarious watching him try to play it off like it was just bad luck and they were really good legit players, obviously he couldn't be complaining about cheaters as a dev
willow sorrel
lmao
lament steppe
They're really common in the finals, too.
And that's just the rage hacks. Ican't even imagine the amount of soft cheating going on that we're just not aware of because we are so good we still beat them
barren pivot
cheating culture also got way more prevalent in western culture this past decade too, using aimbot or scripts has less of a bite to it in conversations online than it used to
willow sorrel
tho I could understand why anti-cheat lag behind cheating cuz there is no strong motivation for improvement. Cheat softwares have to get better so that they can be sold, while AA does not need to cuz ppl still pay for the game regardless of cheating
lament steppe
yea AC is just pathetic nowadays not gonna lie. Even valorant has cheating problems but it's so much less than other games
willow sorrel
literally there is no "profitable market" for anti-cheat softwares compare to cheating softwares
lament steppe
truthfully, I can't help but wonder if it's intentionally bad right now to stave off cheaters using machine learning/AI, while a big AI AC is being developed.
willow sorrel
imagine a 3rd party come up with a very good AC but who will buy it?
meanwhile there are ppl who will pay a TON for a good cheat
lament steppe
Part of me thinks that if all AC suddenly cracks down on conventional cheats, devs will be forced to move into AI and that will actually be completely fucking undetectable
willow sorrel
truthfully, I can't help but wonder if it's intentionally bad right now to stave...
tho, you also have to consider that, cheating atm is already moving to A.I cheating
unless
unless
it is not profitable to make an A.I powered cheating
lament steppe
ofc it would be
crimson glade
Obv
willow sorrel
yeah
lament steppe
It's just not needed because anticheat is so easy to get around with easier/more conventional methods
but I know I'm capable of writing a machine learning algorithm that could emulate human aim flawlessly and never be detected
it wouldn't be easy but I have the AI background to do it
willow sorrel
but I know I'm capable of writing a machine learning algorithm that could emulat...
sending assassins to your location rn
lament steppe
no. I'm applying for jobs at anti-cheats
crimson glade
lament steppe
I would rather stop cheating than make it worse. I practice too hard to undo all that by cheating.
willow sorrel
yeah
lament steppe
I think genre could die independent of cheating, because of aim assist
willow sorrel
yeah
lament steppe
halo infinite already did the whole "give MNK aim assist" thing. If the finals, for example, follows that path... guess what
that's going to become the norm
opal trench
that's going to become the norm
I agree
crimson glade
They are actually bbraindead for that
lament steppe
it's very possible that the devs could see the whole aim asist debacle and how players are emulating controller to get AA on MNK and think... mnk players actually want aim assist
willow sorrel
Maaaaan really, idk why ppl could defend aim assist in games. Like do you accept it if in chess, you have ppl that think for you and you call it think-assist?
crimson glade
I will grab the gasoline
opal trench
I think aim assist was okay before not this super rotational AA bullshit
Fortnite before was so unplayable
In like the early days of chapter 2
opal trench
I will grab the gasoline
Let me grab the match
lament steppe
instead of realizing that they need to do input seperated lobbies. Halo infinite set the precedent. And worse, their MNK players welcomed the change(because all the reasonable MNK players had quit long ago, ofc) but it's so easy to misrepresent that data
willow sorrel
yeah
I would rather not playing a FPS/get destroyed by AA than have to play it with AA
opal trench
Not a bad idea but then crossplay I think goes with that idea
I think best way is to nerf AA in general
opal trench
But because of how strong its been in recent games like cod and finals rn
If you release a game
With balance AA
Controllers would find it shit
So console community is in fumes
willow sorrel
but ya know what is funny
opal trench
But the game has to be fun to the point it doesn't make them hate it
opal trench
but ya know what is funny
Wassup
willow sorrel
console doesn't even get to utilize AA that fully 🤣
they get shitted on by roller + PC
opal trench
console doesn't even get to utilize AA that fully 🤣
True
willow sorrel
but they still defend it
opal trench
Fps + delay
opal trench
but they still defend it
Tbh alot of console players don't know how to abuse AA
Hence why they don't understand it
willow sorrel
literally they are also in a bad situation where their AA can't compete with MnK and even can't compete with roller PC
opal trench
I think there was a war zone clip
He thought the other guy was cheating
But it was a controller player too
willow sorrel
Tbh alot of console players don't know how to abuse AA
yeah like 8/10 cases ppl saying "But my AA ain't like this", turn out they play it on console
🤣
barren pivot
they get shitted on by roller + PC
forgive me for asking but what does roller mean?
willow sorrel
ah controller
willow sorrel
np
opal trench
yeah like 8/10 cases ppl saying "But my AA ain't like this", turn out they play ...
They have the wrong aim assist type
No drift
And some stupid settings
willow sorrel
yeah that too
opal trench
😭😭
willow sorrel
and ya know what they say
"If most ppl do not know how to ultilize AA fully then AA it is not a problem, we need it strong to compete with MnK" 🤣
bro, most ppl also do not aim well with mouse
lament steppe
Their AA works the same, they just have longer input delay because they are at lower FPS and shitty settings/hardware, so they don't realize how much it does because they "fight" the AA too much
I've been at a console players house, dude his TV had like 100 ms input delay
It was literally unplayable
willow sorrel
I've been at a console players house, dude his TV had like 100 ms input delay
yeah
lament steppe
I gave him one of my old monitors and he immediately went from low fragging shitter in every lobby to dropping 2.0 KDR and getting to max rank a few weeks later
just from that. Literally NOTHING else.
willow sorrel
man
lmao
that is indeed a case where getting a monitor really boost gaming performance
grealy
*greatly
lament steppe
yea like 100 ms of input delay is fucking atrocious dude
like i couldn't hit stationary targets with aim assist
willow sorrel
🤣
lament steppe
It was so immediately obvious I said what the fuck with less than a second of playtime
how the fuck do you play like that and not notice????
and like, 75% of console gamers play like that, then go on reddit and argue that they need aim assist
and say "my aim assist doesn't do that"... no shit you're basically watching the past ofc nothing is going to work and everything is going to be hard
willow sorrel
yeah
willow sorrel
tbf, idk where they get "controller is intended input for gaming" argument, I thought it were a sarcasm from MnK. Cuz it is quite obvious that controller is never designed for FPS and more specifically multiplayer FPS. They are for playing TPS with not much aim, RPG, hack n' slash, fighting etc but for sure not FPS and RTS
lament steppe
yea calling it the intended input is the dumbest fucking thing I've ever heard.
mnk, controllers, dual joysticks aka hosas, hotas, steering wheel, guitar hero controller, dance dance revolution pad are all valid inputs.
Weird how only one of them gets an aimbot
willow sorrel
like imagine saying it is an intended input for gaming but it requires a software to "assist"??? Does the hammer require assist to nail or the knife require assist to cut?
willow sorrel
yea calling it the intended input is the dumbest fucking thing I've ever heard. ...
yeah fcking weird
lament steppe
analogies are pretty pointless, controller players generally are not smart enough to understand them
best one though is bike vs motorcycle. No matter how much you lower the motorcycles engine size, it's still not a fair race for the guy on the bike, even if you lower it so much that armstrong can out pace it
willow sorrel
that is a damn good analogy
lament steppe
but even that one isn't good enough, because it ignores the fact that aim assist actually bypasses what humans are capable of w/ reaction speed
with their 0ms automatic directional tracking, and ofc, shooting through visual clutter. So even a ridiculous analogy like bike vs motorcycle misses major parts of the problem.
It's just such a tired topic at this point and I hate that it's even a topic to begin with
willow sorrel
aight true
it is kinda sad every time we talk about FPS
we have to cycle it back to AA
🤣
mystic reef
@lament steppe I'm back
lament steppe
<@94473838791766016> I'm back
ok les go then
lf+1 rank
mystic reef
our 3rd was so dogshit we didn't even need them to qualify for the finals
lol
he ragequit after running out of coins
long plinth
analogies are pretty pointless, controller players generally are not smart enoug...
Good one
lament steppe
any1 for third
molten token
analogies are pretty pointless, controller players generally are not smart enoug...
AA arguments in a nutshell
hybrid totem
blissful valley
@lament steppe @mystic reef Be there in 15
lament steppe
Fuck yea
dense cloud
btw guys what are some good gadgets for medium?
crimson glade
he ragequit after running out of coins
lmao did you stop trying to rez him? ngl i am petty like that
if you're just throwing why am i gonna pick you up
spamming request revive 10 buildings away with a sniper
get rekt
mystic reef
I mean he kept dying solo away from us
crimson glade
I mean he kept dying solo away from us
@crimson glade
i slept so freaking bad last week. my play and everything was atrocious
been getting 7hr a night tho last couple days. gonna hop on soonish
mystic reef
@lament steppe
lament steppe
mystic reef
@lament steppe @blissful valley
proud phoenix
@lament steppe ya he at least has anti recoil, there's also a few times where his crosshair dips low and snaps back up
blissful valley
btw guys what are some good gadgets for medium?
jumppad + defib + zipline/mines/frag
mental pecan
aps system or whatever
outer gale
It's honestly not hard to figure out. If you're talking about skill ceiling, med...
Right, this is a poor misunderstanding about what the term "skill ceiling" is referring to, but clearly you have your own opinion about that, so it's all good.
sharp stag
DIAMOND TWITCH STREAMER GOING 0-4 IN GOLD LOBBY IS CRAZY
acoustic ferry
if u think the highest skill ceiling is on a class which has the lowest health pool, make loud noises in stealth, is visible in stealth. in a game mode where people stay 3 and 3 together
lament steppe
Right, this is a poor misunderstanding about what the term "skill ceiling" is re...
Think you're the one misunderstanding the term, not me
warm estuary
Think you're the one misunderstanding the term, not me
Yur
teal rose
cheeto
lusty delta
do u guys get the MISSING_ANGELSCRIPT_CALLSTACK issue
lusty delta
the gym 3 stack goes hard
slender ivy
DAMN
fluid rampart
with their 0ms automatic directional tracking, and ofc, shooting through visual ...
It also makes watching YouTube clips unenjoyable. So fucking often I think "wow that dude is cracked" and then I see he's playing on console/controller. Now I always look what input they are playing first and then disregard the clip of it's controller.
lusty delta
can u reload cancel
teal rose
this was a tie?
more deaths?
lusty delta
more deaths?
i dont think deaths go towards anything thats stupid
mental pecan
i dont think deaths go towards anything thats stupid
idk cuz you have the same amount of cash and objective pts
proud phoenix
Ooo they're nerfing aim assist
proud phoenix
Lookin good bois
Idk what the camera magnetism reductions means though
Also, big patch with nuke nerfs next week?
serene scaffold
Anyone test rewasd still works?
mystic reef
@teal rose
quiet vector
No fuckin way they actually care about patching aim assist
I'm not used to it
W devs
proud phoenix
cant wait for roller tears
teal rose
Anyone test rewasd still works?
my friend just screenshared
he bypassed it already
im so done man
but aa changes are a W
im actually having trouble adjusting
its strong but not broken
proud phoenix
35% magnetism is around Apex levels no?
stark geyser
Idk what the camera magnetism reductions means though
idk, people might have had some funky shit with that. idk if the melee weapon lock on deal is intentional or otherwise
proud phoenix
i still think aim assist is gonna be broken
stark geyser
idk if being able to kill in this game or apex is easier
well, maybe harder depending on the light/medium/heavy and movement deal
mystic reef
i still think aim assist is gonna be broken
I mean there's still aim snapping on tracking guns so probably
stark geyser
also i got a new keyboard so movement's kinda sorted for me lel
proud phoenix
Nah aim assist is still busted
mystic reef
this is a good start though
even if they wanted to they probably wouldn't be able to pull out input based mm
in like a week of work hours lol
proud phoenix
Tracking weapons w/ aim snap + 35% magnetism is literally worse than apex aim assist
stark geyser
about time to kill?
mystic reef
easier in this game I think
it's way easier to 1clip
even medium vs medium on fcar
the gun with least bullets
stark geyser
hm
and apex mixtape? not really thinking of touching BR
mystic reef
I mean even if they moved same speed as in apex it wouldn't really change it
quiet vector
I think it would a lil cause you would miss more
stark geyser
i still somehow can't consistently do well though i admit but that's the mm for one
mystic reef
well sure, but I mean look at akm
you would be hard pressed to not 1clip a medium
also hitscan
stark geyser
yeah, while apex is projectile
i'd like to get good at fps but apex mixtape mm makes it kind of a snoozefest as of recent, and the core game mode is BR. only voltaic care about the non-BR aspect of this game, everyone else cares only about BR
the finals is a godsend because its core game mode still has respawns (albeit limited, but not game-ending if you die)
and the maps are the same across all game modes
quiet vector
Ow time
mystic reef
Ow time
proceeds to die to enemies playing heroes that are easy to play and have 1000x the input:value ratio than whatever you're playing
quiet vector
Fuck it the shit you're playing being fun overshadows that
quiet vector
Ofc u can
I've played against infinite amount of torbs I would know 
I don't even mind anymore
mystic reef
OW is only good because it's probably the smoothest fps experience you can have
quiet vector
My mental is made of pure diamonds
You think playing light in finals is torture?
Not at all, I just ignore all the hardships and play anyway
Because ow had tortured me 100x harder than this
mystic reef
bro gave up 😭
proud phoenix
why are my finals teammates always hellen kellers
proud phoenix
@mystic reef I guess, these mfers are the worst players NA
mystic reef
recon medium is soldier in ow
proud phoenix
fighting monkeys on roller is still impossible
they will still beam you with 100% accuracy
teal rose
idk man i play roller and i think its fine
its just less consistent
but i think ur just dying to genuine cheaters
proud phoenix
IDK, 35% magnetism (if its like most games using the same system) is just 5% less than Apex. Plus, there is aim snap, its still gonna be bad
polar totem
meanwhile cod is at 60% magnetism
lament steppe
wtf camera magnetism was fucking 50%
now it's only 35%, making it 5% less than apex LMAO
still way to high but at least we see devs have some semblence of sanity
And new patch next week hopefully that brings the nuke nerf >. >
opal trench
I could cry omg
Zoom snapping max cap
The rest of the nerfs too
But also
REWASD???
teal rose
now it's *only* 35%, making it 5% less than apex LMAO
yeah it doesnt fully snap on
it just moves ur crosshair slightly closer
rotational aa should be tweaked a bit imo
it should not just work all the time
with no input
it ruins your movement
sharp stag
GG
molten token
Yeah, honestly the only thing I'd like to see is them adjust the reaction time to the rotational, but it also makes sense not nerfing absolutely everything all at once. It's a huge chunk of progress so it's a win either way.
crimson glade
W patch let's go
crimson glade
Yeah, honestly the only thing I'd like to see is them adjust the reaction time t...
Except for AA bc I hate it but I'm a big fan of not turning the dials too hard
Balance can take time
Seen devs do a lot of knee jerk reactions
This is pretty encouraging omen
mystic reef
to be fair even if they planned something like input based matchmaking there's no way they would have been able to finalize it so fast
molten token
Yeah, input matchmaking in tournament mode would be nice but unrealistic to expect right away.
mystic reef
even then the #1 thing they should be working on is probably custom matches )
lament steppe
Yeah, honestly the only thing I'd like to see is them adjust the reaction time t...
Tbh that isnt really possible to do. Rotational can't really be given a reaction time, it wouldnt work at all.
Thats why either remove completely or input seperated matchmaking is the only way to go
lament steppe
to be fair even if they planned something like input based matchmaking there's n...
Ofc.
I'm expecting big balance patch next week, most likely nerfing the biggest offenders, then they'll start working on major changes like removing recon and replacing it with something else for the future.
Next patch will likely be strictly number fixes, though. I wouldn't expect more intricate changes at this time, they haven't had enough time.
mystic reef
I know how to nerf rpg, let players grab it midair and throw it back
serene scaffold
Just remove everything that is no skill
mystic reef
sharp stag
mystic reef
not surprised, VDIM is like the most comprehensive playlist for every aim category
lament steppe
Yea. I think only one that missing on aim labs now is evasive ts
Shame that's one of the best ones, smooth tracking, reactive tracking, flicking practice all in one
molten token
Roller cope struck a mercy killing today
mystic reef
when even the devs call you dogshit
dense cloud
Wtf why is this new update taking of 16 gb of storage on my pc
oh nvm it finally went back to its old space
boreal dragon
The finals
astral schooner
Wtf why is this new update taking of 16 gb of storage on my pc
Meanwhile Valorant that takes 2TB:
long plinth
Meanwhile Valorant that takes 2TB:
Best crypto miner
willow sorrel
damn BASED
worthy vale
Nerf the Goo Gun.
https://www.instagram.com/reel/C1RhTJqs5kV/?igsh=MXRrMzAxcHBvMjQ5Mg==
Instagram
long plinth
Like bro it doesnt take much to listen to the community and consider their opinions
willow sorrel
literally dev to that guy: the data show that you suck 🤣
dense cloud
never heard of vdim, is it better than wa11paper's finals playlist?
sharp stag
never heard of vdim, is it better than wa11paper's finals playlist?
it's a general playlist made by lg56 but it's well respected by a huge majority of the finals community that aim trains
dense cloud
whats the biggest diff between those 2 playlists tho?
is vdim scens a lot more useful than that of wa11papers
fallow gazelle
meanwhile respawn probably hasnt touched aimassist since titanfall 1
mystic reef
whats the biggest diff between those 2 playlists tho?
vdim is 7 playlists
each for one day of the week for every category of aim
lusty delta
idk cuz you have the same amount of cash and objective pts
then wouldnt that effect ranked as well? cuz i sure know it doesnt
sharp stag
is vdim scens a lot more useful than that of wa11papers
wa11paper's playlist is more finals focused while lg56's playlist(s) are more general oriented but still extremely useful
long plinth
meanwhile respawn probably hasnt touched aimassist since titanfall 1
Literally
Dont make too many changes to the game
Dont listen to community
Dont spend money on fixing problems
fallow gazelle
Literally
console aimassist so broken they disable it in algs but they wont do shit about it for normal people
i wonder if pros could choose between 60fps and 0.6 aa ps5 and 300fps pc 0.4 what they would choose
long plinth
Respawn devs watching their game catch on fire
Literally
Cash grab from the start tbh
They never thought about making it this far with the game
acoustic ferry
"Clients running key re-mapping programs on PC will not have access to aim assist.
"
ez
long plinth
Absolutely rolled
acoustic ferry
there probably is a bypass
long plinth
"If you're gonna cheat, go all the way"
-Sun Tzu
Roller is still gonna beam hard, I think they need to nerf it to 25%
echo quail
median pond
console aimassist so broken they disable it in algs but they wont do shit about ...
Just aim dude
median pond
Roller is still gonna beam hard, I think they need to nerf it to 25%
I’m still beaming kids
(My cat kicked my mouse in her water bowl and I have no choice but controller)
wicked adder
whats with getting kicked from games randomly?
proud phoenix
@median pond ya I think controller will still have the advantage over kbm. 35% aimbot is still op
lament steppe
Roller is still gonna beam hard, I think they need to nerf it to 25%
ofc. 35% is just 5% less than apex, but the strafe speed in finals is slower and it's hitscan, so it'll still be stronger relatively speaking than apex.
probably 15-20% will be the point where it's like, acceptable, but I'd still prefer just having input seperated mm
median pond
i’m on 28 and that’s about 26cm
Thank you
wicked mason
heady pewter
sini gave a folder and it was in a note doc.
i threw it in - and never looked back
since i changed registry and added startup commands.
i have like 160-180 fps in finals
proud phoenix
I need it too
lament steppe
which registry, the one I linked to make finals run at higher prio?
heady pewter
The finals custom crosshair with hudsight 1/2
turn off crosshair in game
go to hudsight, then go to common, select use xbox game bar overlay
press windows key, and then type in game bar
select widget menu, located in the middle left of the screen, and then go to widget store and get simple crosshair
after that favourite it in the widget menu, and click on it, from there it will tell you what you need to do
select your crosshair that you want in hudsight, and then close it
Copy this command line into your finals launch options (not very tested)
-LANPLAY -NOSPLASH -NOTEXTURESTREAMING -USEALLAVALIABLECORES -nomansky -limitclientticks -malloc=system -sm4
GameUserSettings.ini and Engine.ini optimizations
press windows key + r and then type in appdata and press enter
go to local folder, look for the discovery folder, from there go saved->config->WindowsClient
there you should see GameUserSettings.ini, copy and paste the two files included into this folder.
better visibility in the finals
get nvidia profinspector, open it, in the search bar type in the finals, from there do the standard lod trick (images included)
you can also try values of 1,2,2.5 if the terrain is bugged
with the lowest setting it can get rid of the ground in certain areas and make certain areas flat that have terrain*
(this can also get rid of sights on weapons, so you can use this with the custom crosshair to see exactly where you are aiming)
force disable raytracing
use profinsector for this
proud phoenix
Do those files give me aim assist so I can compete
heady pewter
all ima say is i went from 90fps to 180
so idc what does what
it works
atleast for my pc specs
mental pecan
i’m on 140 ish constantly and didn’t do shit
proud phoenix
which part upped your frames
I feel like the game runs better this patch though
it was a lot smoother
lament steppe
pretty sure these cfgs don't work, the .ini files are locked down
acoustic ferry
isnt there a guy in this chat called hexhyte?
fluid rampart
Yo they nerfed aim assist?
acoustic ferry
oh well ggs hexhyte
lament steppe
The finals custom crosshair with hudsight 1/2
turn off crosshair in game
go to h...
how do you force disable raytracing
heady pewter
nvidiaprofileinspector
lament steppe
yes.. what setting in there forces it.
because I don't see anything w/ ray tracing specifically. I know to use profile inspector, obviously.
heady pewter
its more than likely off for you unless you enable it yourself
so i wouldnt worry about it
wicked adder
does anyone know if they have plans to optimize the game?
lament steppe
if they can, they will. But to be honest it's very well optimized already
it's very CPU dependent, however.
acoustic ferry
so i wouldnt worry about it
how do u do the standard LOD trick?
chilly topaz
The finals custom crosshair with hudsight 1/2
turn off crosshair in game
go to h...
hot
chilly topaz
how do u do the standard LOD trick?
idk exact value but that
teal rose
how do you force disable raytracing
i just use a card that doesnt support raytracing
modern problems require ancient solutions
median pond
losing this is hilarious
chilly topaz
not 30k combat ofc you lost
opal trench
Wrong
But also not wrong I can kinda understand it
But at the same time it would never be good
mental pecan
losing this is hilarious
honestly it isn't call of duty
teal rose
i disabled hyper threading in process lasso, gained some performance
setting the process priority to high in regedit n stuff
since eac doesnt allow u to change priority for some reason
fluid rampart
how's the game now with the new changes to rewasd and AA?
dense cloud
anybody knows how to fix the fucking high cpu usage that this game utilizes?
mystic reef
full galleon
damn
chilly topaz
anybody knows how to fix the fucking high cpu usage that this game utilizes?
money
median pond
honestly it isn't call of duty
My obj score is 3rd in the lobby
digital solstice
mystic reef
unoriginal name confirmed 
chilly topaz
proud phoenix
@fluid rampart still worse than Apex
lament steppe
lfg ranked in like 30 mins
quiet vector
yup
lament steppe
nice need +1
acoustic ferry
i disabled hyper threading in process lasso, gained some performance
how u do that
im in process lasso
teal rose
disable hyper threading
if it doesnt give you any performance gain or any weird thing
just go back to none
lament steppe
yup
im good to go
lf+1 rank
oh nice we >50% wr now
only 10.5 avg kills per game, though. 5 avg deaths per game. 2.12 kdr after all this time in ranked. 3336 avg dmg per game? That doesn't seem right.
sharp stag
im good to go
lf+1 rank
if danvari was yall’s third yall would dominate
acoustic ferry
if it doesnt give you any performance gain or any weird thing
ty g
acoustic ferry
what is this name
hit a 50 bomb yet xD?
mystic reef
fallow gazelle
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=5JkKIO1zOxs
okey dude are you fucking joking
mystic reef
?
the title is a meme, not sure if that's what you mean
it's a normal lascur montage
sharp stag
okey dude are you fucking joking
bro did NOT click on the video
fallow gazelle
bro did NOT click on the video
huh did none of you watch the video 
0:44
go watch
crimson glade
yes it was a nice track...
mystic reef
there's no way I'm remembering that after I finish watching the video
fallow gazelle
there's no way I'm remembering that after I finish watching the video <:4Head:89...
boreal dragon
Chad
acoustic ferry
mfw after every single optimization i still have the same fps
mystic reef
there's no config for being poor, sadly
mystic reef
my frames suck balls too, so I can relate
acoustic ferry
i mean i didnt think i needed a nasa pc i could run OW at 240+
then this game comes
mystic reef
welcome to unoptimized games
my pc was mostly for csgo so I didn't get anything crazy
thought I would spend the rest of my like kreedzing
lament steppe
lfg ranked
mystic reef
the finals? hard to say honestly
fallow gazelle
i just realised there are 3 tf games
mystic reef
the frames might be slightly worse, but the game overall plays better on these frames
fallow gazelle
the frames might be slightly worse, but the game overall plays better on these f...
do the true fullscreen optimisation for apex works wonders
and play it on +high
mystic reef
I mean I had to run resolution scaling in apex to get 140 frames
hella blurry, but still didn't feel too good to play
the fps drops could be bad in some places
fallow gazelle
I mean I had to run resolution scaling in apex to get 140 frames
tf what are u playing on? a graphics calculator ???
1999 laptop ?
mystic reef
gtx 1060
lament steppe
I don't really do that sort of LFG, too many people just bullshitting and raging 24/7 at every little mistake
everyone in here is generally chill and fun to play
lament steppe
tbh there's no one in here I've played w/ so far who I would say raged or got toxic at all.
probably not, idc who I play w/ really as long as they are mostly chill and not like, hard inting
I play w/ bronze/silver/gold players all the time even though I'm dia now
lament steppe
just join up, I'll make callouts so you can learn as we play
silk oyster
acoustic ferry
just join up, I'll make callouts so you can learn as we play
now that you are diamond, is the diamond skin one u can select to whatever gun or is it only for the pistol on light
acoustic ferry
cringe
lament steppe
beta was AK? I think
silk oyster
Hopefully I won't be getting beamed as much with the aim assist nerfs
acoustic ferry
beta u could pick yourself
lament steppe
damn really
acoustic ferry
yep
lament steppe
I shoulda played beta fuck
acoustic ferry
xD
esp cuz there is no good fcar skin
imagine the dia fcar
beta
in 10 years that shit will be 5k
silk oyster
Is the model still considered a good gun
It's kinda nice but idk how people think it's better then like the AK
lament steppe
it's def good
silk oyster
Yeah the model is def really fun
lament steppe
2 tap medium, 3 tap heavy. Needs a different playstyle and you don't hold height like you do w/ fcar but it's really good
silk oyster
When I hit my shots I feel like john wick
acoustic ferry
but walk u dont feel it being inconsistent
silk oyster
when I miss I feel like an idiot tho
lament steppe
map also matters
acoustic ferry
like sometimes it hits
lament steppe
the spread is the exact same everytime
it feels wonky cus hitreg in general is wonky
silk oyster
Yeah that's what I thought was funny
It's like 100% accurate all the time
bar hitreg
just goofy
lament steppe
but discounting the hitreg issues, it's really good
silk oyster
if you hit all the pellets it does decent damage at a surprisingly far range
But if you don't hit all the pellets you're shooting confetti
lament steppe
that affects every gun it's just much more noticeable on single fire guns. I had multiple times today where half my mag just straight no reg
silk oyster
I hope they address it soon
lament steppe
next week has a major patch
silk oyster
lament steppe
so I'm really interested to see what they do. They probably won't do major netcode updates until the game balance is somewhat stable and they address the important shit like nukes/cheaters etc but they might start tweaking it
silk oyster
Yeah hopefully nuke reworked in this patch
and maybe light tweaks
I understand that light isn't good but it's still aids to play against
hope they can make it better without just increasing the cringe
And I'd like some sort of text chat
Because voice comms is a rarity at best
And what do yall think of the self healing
Because me personally I think it takes a little too long to kick in tbh
If they made it heal a little slower but kicked in earlier that’d be nice
acoustic ferry
give lights jumppads
quiet vector
I don't mind the healing rate
Or the start time I mean
Although if they made it faster for lights I wouldn't mind 👀
silk oyster
Just something to keep uptime a bit higher
Maybe I’m just too used to overwatch but it sucks having to wait like 10 seconds to get back into a fight
It doesn’t sound long but mid fight it feels like an eternity
Honestly sometimes feels better to just die and get insta defibbed then wait to heal
Also not having my steal canceled when the cashout moves .0003 centimeters would be cool
I still remember losing in the final round because they tossed and blew up a c4 (didn’t hit me) and it budged the cashout TOWARDS ME and it still canceled my steal and we lost
acoustic ferry
i have had times where i capped it then the server lagged which moved me
it is what it is
its an even playing field though
silk oyster
Blowing up the floor under cashouts it very cool
First time ever playing a game with this kind of destruction
Their servers must be beefy as hell
blissful valley
@lament steppe Do you need people
lament steppe
<@94473838791766016> Do you need people
yea need +1
quiet vector
you better up the limit of ppl cause im joining to vibe while i paint
blissful valley
I'm hopping on soon, talking with a friend
median pond
<@235538696462401536> u didn’t tell me u were controller on the finals
I’m not
slender ivy
mfw after every single optimization i still have the same fps
I run 1080x1650 and pull around 180fps
Just max low settings
acoustic ferry
probably wont help much considering im CPU bound
acoustic ferry
I run 1080x1650 and pull around 180fps
what res scaling method do u use
slender ivy
Just in game settings idk
I do have a 3090ti tho
So that might b part of it
By going to a stretch I got like a 30fps bump though
acoustic ferry
i play 1780x1080
slender ivy
I’ll give that a shot
silk oyster
Dang, buncha stretched gamers
silk oyster
When I opened this game for the first time it opened in stretched and I was super confused
acoustic ferry
native looks like a cartoon
slender ivy
Stretched looks like I'm playing CS source on a 2003 monitor
Aka beautiful
Peak gaming
opal trench
i full thought i was tripping and my superlight 2 was busted but i think i only have cursor showing up and flicking on finals
everyother game is fine
it works fine in finals but its just the fact the cursor shows up on screen and flicks
silk oyster
Y'all tripping balls
I understand if you play stretched for performance
But because it looks good? nah you lost me
slender ivy
But because it looks good? nah you lost me
It’s beautiful
I refuse to play csgo native it’s treason
silk oyster
Csgo already looks like shit so it’s fine
But like this game or apex?
Cmon man
Why you run kovaaks on native
I’m more curious about that
You stretch all your games but kovaaks stretched is somehow off the table
slender ivy
I used to but apparently 4:3 is unoptimal for reactive
slender ivy
You stretch all your games but kovaaks stretched is somehow off the table
It’s suboptimal for aim
Fast things move faster on stretched
Plus I pull 600+ fps in kvk so no need for graphic optimization
silk oyster
Fast things move faster on stretched
So doesn’t that make things harder to track
And is suboptimal in games too
slender ivy
So doesn’t that make things harder to track
Yes it does
Only time I like it I’m tracking is small smoothness scens for score cheesing cuz yk bigger targets
slender ivy
So doesn’t that make things harder to track
But at the same time jus get better reactive and it’s fine
silk oyster
But at the same time jus get better reactive and it’s fine
Sure man
@median pond what's ur tag
how do I add freinds in this game
median pond
<@235538696462401536> what's ur tag
Gimme 2min gotta do something
slender ivy
I have u on steam right babe? @median pond
silk oyster
Tren gone 
slender ivy
Did he die:(
silk oyster
idk
blissful valley
@lament steppe fighting for his life while the others make art
silk oyster
what's that mean
cinder quiver
i full thought i was tripping and my superlight 2 was busted but i think i only ...
happens to me all the time too
I think it's a bug with alt-tabbing
annoying af
silk oyster
I use it all the time
With what guns
I'm trying out the fcar and it's got dogass hipfire
It's great with the shotty tho
acoustic ferry
i applaud anyone who can find an actual use for this xD
can it be done with Fcar
then
maybe
silk oyster
Hate that I can't watch reddit embeds
what's even the point of embeding it if you can't watch it
uneven adder
hit a 50 bomb yet xD?
No, but I did hit a 49 with 34k dmg
That is close enough for me
Haven't played recently though apart from 3 games today
silk oyster
I'm seeing how broken MMH is
healing a heavy with double shield is fucking insane
Let's go first ranked tournament dub
Gaming
The amount of fame you get for a tournament win is absurd
full salmon
Anyone know if you can use sens randomizer while u play
Or will anti cheat shadow ban u
silk oyster
<@358378600761917451> I’m so sorry
Ay bro all gucci
I've been tearing up ranked in both this game and ow in the meantime
median pond
I've been tearing up ranked in both this game and ow in the meantime
Fuck yea
acoustic ferry
anyone wanna rank EU
median pond
Idk if or when I’ll play ranked lol
silk oyster
Fuck yea
peep the clip I posted in overwatch chat
Baking cookies
Did 1 vod review with Lilac and Lou and they changed the game
median pond
peep the clip I posted in overwatch chat
hi
still down to play?
@slender ivy games?
slender ivy
Me and deceit boutta run some Val care to join?
median pond
Me and deceit boutta run some Val care to join?
nah i kinda hate val ngl
slender ivy
Same but I have to have a high rank in everything
median pond
Same but I have to have a high rank in everything
play finals w me instaed
pls
im lonely
median pond
idk how to make it
i made one