grimoire-discussion

[indigo abyss]

Same goes for a lot of things that were lost during voting

[wide moss]

I was wondering what the criteria for perk design is? Do hex/boon start out conceptually as hex or boon perks or is that a decision made further down the line? What are the criteria for making perks hex/boon perks? How many iterations do you go through for a single perk? How do you decide activation conditions? Do you ever discard ideas that you later deem to be too similar to other perks in execution?

[indigo abyss]

We don’t really know

One thing that was mentioned a long time ago and it’s hard to tell if that’s ever been the case, is that they apparently try to make:
1 fun perk
1 perk for casuals
1 perk for experienced players

[gaunt dawn]

I think it would be fun to have a perk that randomly blinds survivors. It can be the most fragile hex perk in the world. I just want to do it

[wide moss]

That’s interesting. I wish we’d get more people talking about the specifics of Chapter design. Map design, tile design, and collisions would also be fun to have a peek under the hood at. You ever see those episodes of “How It’s Made”? I’d love something that.

[indigo abyss]

I believe back when Deathslinger was released a short behind the scenes video

They showed a prototype for Slinger where his model placeholder was Trapper in a cowboy hat

[wide moss]

That sounds beautiful. I’ll have to see if I can find it.

[gilded ore]

Hey grimoire lovin' people! Would love to see what questions you guys come up with! Don't hesitate to ping me either, just know I can't answer any right now! 🙂

[frozen heron]

Guys I have no clue what the new killer is can someone explain what movie or game it’s from please

[indigo abyss]

When looking at the key art concepts (particularly the one that won), it can be noticed how Judgement has a slightly different design compared to the original concept. Specifically the head looks completely different, legs are connected with the main body rather than just levitating near it and the upper body has much more androgynous shape.

Given how developers have already made statements about potential tweaks for the base design, could there be any confirmation if that’s what we can see on the key art? And if so, could we ever see the updated design in full detail?

[indigo abyss]

Grimoire killer is completely original. It’s so original that we as a community get to participate in its creation.

[frozen heron]

Oh okay Thankyou it’s js I seen the hype and I was wondering if it was dlc or original just wasn’t sure but have they said what the perks were or they haven’t gotten that far yet

[indigo abyss]

Survivor:
Fruits of Your Labor: "A Token perk that gives incremental Haste and healing."

Salvation's Cry: "A perk that shares Auras when the Killer starts a chase."

Boon: Steadfast: "A Boon perk that makes a single generator's progress permanent."
.

Killer:

Vigilance: "An Obsession perk that gives you near perfect Aura-reveal."

Hex: Under Your Thumb: "A Hex perk that limits Survivors' Haste."

Lay Waste: "A perk that increases regression on near-complete Generators."

[gaunt dawn]

Are there any additional suggestions we can make about cosmetics?

Like how they are linked?

Id really like the wings to be determined by the staff so that you can mix different wings with different bodies.

Also I think its popular demand that we get both killer cosmetics if possible

[fervent spade]

With Aurora I was wondering if we'd still get some survivor esc cosmetics, I know the nun won and honestly I don't mind that, but I was just curious if she'd still get some stuff in regards to her being from an apocalypse

[tropic willow]

The base skin is angelic. Only the angelic options have won both times. I want a skin ill actually use to win for once

[tropic willow]

The legs have been attached on all the concepts so far. You can tell by the back view easier than the front for the one you posted

[vague crater]

a corrupted angel for the base which isnt a stereotypical angel

and then an ornate clean angel for the skin

its not hard to see why the clean consistent design that is pretty won

[tropic willow]

Is there a chance the losing cosmetic options can return in the shop at later dates for both the killer and survivor? Asking since all the cosmetics ive liked for both lost in votes.

[vague crater]

over the design that looks like pieces got cut from three different skins and stapled together

[tropic willow]

Both are clean looking, the more corrupted ones both lost. Which are the skins i was hoping would win.

[vague crater]

the base design is not clean at all

its literally half melted into a pile of blue veins and eyes with bloodstained claws for legs hello

its got entity goop growing over its shoulder and arm too

this one is actually clean and ornate

sure it has blood but its not melting the actual design away

compared to a lot of hands, two different sets of wings that dont match, chains for some reason, stone but also red flesh sometimes, eyes too sometimes oh and big heads, need those

the head and chest is the only good part of it
beyond that its either too overdesigned or too cluttered

without looking good
the winner looks overdesigned in a good way because its meant to be ornate

[fickle scarab]

I asked a friend what his thoughts were on the designs whom doesnt play DBD and he said he thought both designs were cluttered

too much detail

[vague crater]

the first one looks cluttered because it looks like its ornate and overdesigned on purpose
the other looks clutered because its got too much shit trying to work at once

[unborn heron]

This may not fit the “gameplay design” bit, but what will The Judgement sound like (like what personality do their voice lines give off?

[vague crater]

we dont know yet
there will be a vote for it later on

[fickle scarab]

Thats one of the thngs we are voting on later

[tropic willow]

Are you just forgetting the other design was a decaying corpse and mounds of flesh and eyes?

[tropic willow]

Nah that one has the best wings and legs as well

[tropic willow]

If i recall thats going to be the last thing voted on. Or at least the last one voted on that has an announced voting date

Refound the road map after typing that

[visual oriole]

i need this one as a skin or im gonna riot

[tropic willow]

Yea that was my favorite one too

[fast dove]

God am I upset that the bottom key art lost. It seemed so gorgeous in a renessaince painting sorta way, not to mention it’s gives the spider legs an excellent role in the composition

and now we get what, a boring symmetrical stab??

On the bottom image it looks like the Angel is receiving a blessing from the heavens to smite this survivor

A simple spear stab + glare seems boring in comparison

[tropic willow]

Theyre not stabbing them with the spear

If you look at it the spear is in the other hand. Theyre piercing them with a light beam

[uneven stag]

who wants jason with me

in dbd

[fast dove]

Ok that makes me feel slightly better, thx for pointing this out

[dull lodge]

Theres more ? ???? i wish it was over already

[fast dove]

Jason would be sick, mainly because he’d help finish out the “classic slasher” roster, but also I can’t think of anyone else for the 10th anniversary chapter that wouldn’t leave some people upset

[tropic willow]

Theres a few still missing tbh. Just more niche

[uneven stag]

See

[tropic willow]

Only non niche one thats still missing is Predator besides jason

[uneven stag]

we need Jason

[tropic willow]

And if they do add Jason we need a Freddy vs Jason 2v8 mode asap same with Predator doing a AvP 2v8

[fast dove]

My most wanted classic movie killer is jaws, the sharks animations would be hard to pull off but idk I think it would be funny, plus a beach map for the trials could be a fun change of pace

[fickle scarab]

Holy shit youre right

[tropic willow]

I think we should get a beach one regardless and base it off Hooked On You

[fast dove]

that would be a super fun reference I admit

[dull lodge]

What if they will ad penniwise

[indigo abyss]

That’s up to Stephen King to allow them to

Oh and this is #grimoire-discussion

[dull lodge]

Well i know

[fast dove]

Stephan king doesn’t have a great history with liking video games unfortunately

[dull lodge]

but the grimoire voting roadmap is endlesss

[indigo abyss]

No it isn’t

We literally have the last one in May

[dull lodge]

May 14

and then wait annnother 2 months for the ptb to came out

[indigo abyss]

@zinc mulch

[indigo abyss]

So, what does that have to do with Pennywise again?

[zinc mulch]

Is this for general design questions or ones specific to the new survivor/killer?

[warm bison]

When will the new language be added to the PlayStation platforms? I'm talking about Russian. Steam has had it for a long time. Please take this into consideration.

[indigo abyss]

Oh, I assumed you were talking about the grimoire because of the timing, my bad

Best I can suggest is trying to ask them on forums, but they rarely respond to stuff like this

[indigo abyss]

https://forums.bhvr.com/dead-by-daylight/categories/suggestions

[fickle scarab]

The beach realm is like a unique specific realm the entity made for the romantic shananigans in lore tho

[zinc mulch]

Instead of walls just shark filled ocean 😄

[gaunt dawn]

I have an idea for a future skin for the Judgment

In this one the angel would be black. Pure smokey blackness. Not dissimilar to nurses

Imagine this with the legs underneath

And the staff in the shape of a reaper's scythe

@gilded ore

[topaz linden]

Can't believe the next vote is the day before my birthday

[gaunt dawn]

Yay. Any birthday wishes?

[topaz linden]

A Shewolf killer in DBD would be pretty awesome; but more realistically... maybe Sara Secora as the voice of Aurora (but we don't get that until May)

[gaunt dawn]

I definitely have a clear Idea of what I want for the voice and also importantly the music

The voice of the killer should be a chorus itself

Hopfully in latin

[topaz linden]

haha

[gaunt dawn]

Or like this, more accurately

https://youtu.be/s-rl8q9jezU?si=97xRhRTMSC3XC15-

https://youtu.be/63mHSgJxrX4?si=EdF_6s7AOFWY9wc8

https://youtu.be/4v1CuSgBGYY?si=iHkO5HKmKY_00xNZ

Except like a tinge higher pitch

https://youtu.be/-k3XXGmu-dw?si=DHThqe4ESxWv5I2_

Music similar to this

[indigo abyss]

<@&480465015267262484>

[calm notch]

Thank you!

[vague crater]

Speaking of Bloodborne it’s getting a movie
Peak fr

But yeah the music should be an orchestra
Especially if the idea is what I thought it is with all the eyes and faces in it being people trapped inside of it
With its sin punishment place (forgot the name) being physically inside of it

[indigo abyss]

Hopeless Exile

[vague crater]

Yeah that’s the name

But it would be neat if all the eyes and screaming faces are people from auroras world it’s seen as “sinners” and is keeping in exile within it

[indigo abyss]

I mean all those faces on Judgement’s body and staff gotta come from somewhere

There’s definitely a pattern here

[gaunt dawn]

I'd love to see the staff cosmetic for the winning skin to be an opera volto mask on the staff face

[echo folio]

https://x.com/i/status/2045202991477604731

Dead by Daylight (@DeadbyDaylight)

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Ask your questions now!
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Can't wait to tune in

[indigo abyss]

@gilded ore looking back at the pillars of the Judgement’s power design, it was stated that Sin build up would be progressive and equal to the actions committed by survivors. Given our last look at the prototype by the consultants, we know that at that moment the team had strayed away from these pillars, making the mechanic very binary, resembling other similar killer powers (Artist, Unknown, Nemesis, Krasue).

Is there any chance the team will reconsider this? From what I’ve seen, a lot of people were really saddened by the fact that a unique way of building a status effect was replaced by something seen many times before.

[wary kiln]

I like on how the current power is but still, the starting power ideia is better

[calm rain]

Huh

[calm rain]

Agree

[fickle scarab]

Its understandable why they made the choice

Im not sure how the game would be able to detect whether or not someone is going for a save.

Im still upset about it

Survivors being punished for taunting the killer was a great idea especially

Accumulating sin because you took a hit doesnt make any sense flavorwise either

[calm rain]

Yeah… the beam I feel like should just be a adding factor- something that boost the sin that was slowly being accumulated

[fickle scarab]

that still doesnt make sense flavorwise though

The survivors aren't sinning by being in the beam]

[calm rain]

True- but it should be a factor in the passive

[calm rain]

Stunning the killer and healing should build sin

And actions in chase

Using a tool box.

Breaking a hook should build the most sin

[severe fern]

I don’t think sin on healing would be a good idea. We have to learn from old Ring Drawing

[calm rain]

Hmmm alright… but I still like the idea of punishing hook destruction

[severe fern]

I guess, but it’s so niche I don’t think you’d get much value out of that anyway

[calm rain]

Exactly

And it’s only on the one killer

It’s like a small detail

[tawdry parcel]

I love this idea!🤩

[tawdry parcel]

It's okay, any artist can create what we would love to see! And I really hope they do! It is a very beautiful angle!🤩

[fickle scarab]

It wouldn't be the only thing tho

[fast dove]

ok, thanks that does make me feel a bit better lol

[old dock]

have you guys made a backstory for the killer already?

[indigo abyss]

After survivor is hooked and some time has passed, all other survivors have their sin meter build up passively

It’s really not that hard to make a mechanic like that, we even have a system that detects whether or not you unhooked someone safely so why not

[celest nova]

pretty sure its in the works rn! But theres no way to tell if it actually is

[final badger]

i think a brief backstory was made

[wraith onyx]

Next vote is on the 23rd right? If it is Imma cry because I get my wisdom teeth pulled that day lol

[wraith onyx]

Oof ok

[gaunt dawn]

It usually goes on the while weekend

[gaunt dawn]

My headcanon is that she tried to banish the judgment from her world to save it using an eldritch like tome. This coerced the entity to peer from it like someone knocked at its door.

Unfortunately for aurora the entity decided to take her as well as the thing she wanted to save her world from

[winged comet]

Question, are the devs planning on revisiting the killer power to be more in-line with the community vote?

I recall the community specifically not voting for a killer power that adds a Nemesis infection-like status effect.

[languid cloud]

will haddie finally get her white streak updated to actually be white instead of a weird light blue in most cosmetics when aurora comes out 😋 let them match!!!!

[final badger]

so the killer in ur head canon is more nice compared to a fake god?

[gaunt dawn]

Thats not what I said.

The killer is a singular focused judge, jurry and executioner. A fervor of punishment.

Intense obsession

[indigo abyss]

https://tenor.com/view/fire-writing-gif-24533171

[echo folio]

I am curious when they give us the Judgment's backstory in the full chapter release will it be like Dredge and Unknown's told from another person's POV about the killer

[indigo abyss]

If we go with the theory that Aurora is responsible for Judgement’s arrival or at least her relevance in it happening, I believe we’d get enough 3rd person info

[echo folio]

You're right I just will be shocked if it's really from the Judgment's perspective. Not saying it's impossible just less likely

[indigo abyss]

It doesn’t have to be from its perspective exactly

Wait that contradicts what I just said I’m so tired

[final badger]

ohhh my bad i misunderstood you

so like pyramid head in a sense?

[final badger]

it could also be from aurora’s perspective

[fickle scarab]

Its not really a theory when the playerbase is sort of the people cocneptualizing it

The idea I strongly believe in is that all of the survivor designs from before are members of a group of survivors from the cataclysm with some sort of tie to the root of it.

Four survivors, one escapes

[final badger]

can u elaborate on this

[cinder crater]

Really excited for the idea that the survivour will potentially be a nun.

[fickle scarab]

in what way?

[final badger]

whats the cataclysm

[final badger]

we know she wont be tho we literally made her ourselves lol

[fickle scarab]

The established lore thats been given to us so far is that the killer was responsible for the destruction of the home world of the survivor.

Or rather that we voted on

[final badger]

ohh okay i was just confused by what u meant mb

[cinder crater]

Well I mean the outfit voted on was her being a nun? The killer being this Judgement figure, does give me like Godly vibes, and maybe she isn't fully a nun, but itdoes feel like she will have something to do with the church.

[final badger]

it has those feelings because we voted on a divine killer but it isn’t linked to any religion bhvr said they wouldnt do a killer based off of any modern religion

[fickle scarab]

I feel like its worth reminding that it could always happen based on feedback from people. Anything is possible

[cinder crater]

I didn't say it was based on a religion, but the outfit that got the majority vote was for the outfit for the survivor to be the outfit that represented a nun.

[final badger]

sorry i misunderstood you then

thats mb

[median needle]

@wheat saffron

[willow fog]

I just hope the laser feels smooth and not clunky to try using and easier to understand when u first place it before it actually starts but I want the judgement to at least not just play like vecna.

[indigo abyss]

It kinda cannot play like vecna

I understand where the comparison comes from, but they are just entirely different on the mechanical level

[onyx sonnet]

hi where i can say my question for live stream for 1 may ?

[gaunt dawn]

A channel will magically appear in this discord

[onyx sonnet]

ok thanks

i wait it

[muted estuary]

Did they release spider mastermind yet?

[indigo abyss]

The what?

[shell lynx]

does anyone know when the new rift pass is coming

[indigo abyss]

28th

[shell lynx]

yayyy

[shell lynx]

of this month??

[severe fern]

yes

[shell lynx]

yayyy

[heady flame]

does anyone have a general idea when next update is coming out, cause i cant wait to see the new killer and survivor

[indigo abyss]

June

But the next update in general will be on 28th

[muted estuary]

Can we vote to scrap this killer for another one?

[echo folio]

https://giphy.com/gifs/reactiongifs-13GaHvHijqFS0M

[muted estuary]

Deadly

[echo folio]

I wish you luck in life but I love how the grimoire is shaping

[dusky quarry]

https://tenor.com/view/scream-queens-leave-hater-hate-bye-gif-4586575

[muted estuary]

Think this is gonna be one of those killers that would die if a filter was ever brought out

Really cant wait to make Draculas AOE into a puzzle game

[muted estuary]

I love super Mario for the Wii

[indigo abyss]

What are you even talking about

[muted estuary]

Its a gif of Mario for the Wii. Are you fresh bro?

[indigo abyss]

I was referring to every single of your prior messages

[rough patio]

@reef haven

[reef haven]

@rough patio

[tropic willow]

Its 4/20 they’re probably high and also dont know what theyre talking about

[indigo abyss]

I mean that’s more valid than just being annoying for the sake of it ngl

[sturdy marlin]

Gorp

[nocturne nova]

whats on the grimoire rn?

nvm the link is up here

[graceful marsh]

Lf funsies duo

[tropic willow]

Wrong channel

[opaque schooner]

Huh

[topaz linden]

DARKEST DUNGEON INCOMING

WOO

I GOT HELLION RIGHT TOO

Yeah 2024 Me never would have guessed Zarina as Plague Doctor XD

[high timber]

Does Buckle Up and Plot Twist running speed stack? Will deminishing returns apply?

[indigo abyss]

1. No, since plot twist requires you to complete self recovery
2. Yes

Keep questions in #game-questions though, pretty please

[high timber]

???

[indigo abyss]

Buckle up works on other survivors

I’m honestly certain that the part where it says about recovery is there by mistake, but let me check if that’s the case

Yes, it is described incorrectly. Buckle Up has not effect on yourself.

[smoky mist]

Almost there

[indigo abyss]

Are you okay there

[smoky mist]

LOL Sorry I was trying to get to 400 messages

[indigo abyss]

There’s a cooldown

If you try to abuse the system to get the role you might get muted or whatever

Just chat normally and you’ll get it

@smoky mist

[smoky mist]

Yep

[main falcon]

Is this a scrap trap refrence?

[calm rain]

No. Bro just dumb.

[vagrant shard]

Will the judgement have a secondary mori, or will the survivor immediately just die after being sent to the hopeless exile while dead on hook?

[indigo abyss]

We don’t know

[calm rain]

Maybe he will die.. OH!!! Massive brain idea

If the survivor is almost dead in the pocket dimension- the judgment can personally go in his realm and mori them

[vagrant shard]

I think that’s something called spamming lol

[calm rain]

Then go back-

[vagrant shard]

Imagine a killer not able to enter its OWN REALM 😂

[calm rain]

lol

Another idea- if they are ready to die- the judgment can just summon theme fourth and do a second mori

Wonder if the devs are watching us lol

[tropic willow]

They pop in now and again so they are

[calm rain]

W

[fickle scarab]

they do read thsi channel

or at least someone does

[smoky mist]

Wraith is BHVRL's very own Tung Tung Tung Sahur

Wrong chat

[main falcon]

?????

[forest mango]

What is the right chat 😭

[gaunt dawn]

Yeah kinda. More like a force than a being.

[calm rain]

lol

[wide moss]

@gilded ore I don’t know if you saw my previous question but when I initially asked it seemed like there wasn’t much info available only the subject. I was hoping you might know more. What is the criteria behind perk design? How does the team decide the initial idea for perks, which ones are viable, and how they balance them? Specifically, are hexes and boons initially thought up as hex/boon perks or is that a later choice? What decides if a perk is going to be a hex or boon?

I’m hoping now that there seems to be more people I might get a more fleshed out response. Previously someone said 1 fun perk, 1 casual perk, and 1 experienced perk. Is there more to go off of than that?

[indigo abyss]

Days did mention that they wouldn’t be answering questions right now

They’re just gathering them to then answer during the Q&A session on the 1st of May

[echo folio]

^

[wide moss]

Oh okay. I guess I should be hoping for it to make it into the upcoming live stream then.

[gilded ore]

I saw your question! 🙂

[late tinsel]

When will there be a Weeks_BHVR

[severe fern]

I volunteer to be months_BHVR

[late tinsel]

Amazing

[indigo abyss]

New voting tomorrow yaaaaay

Something happens

[calm rain]

Wait- fr?

[calm rain]

-# Wonder witch one is better lol

[gilded ore]

That is honestly such a valid question

[verbal quest]

what yall think about sable ciri skin? is it her best one?

[echo folio]

soon

[calm rain]

W

[tiny star]

Do we know what tomorrows vote will be about? I forget

[calm rain]

You would be correct.

Mods, banish this man to the shadow realm

[fickle scarab]

<@&480465015267262484>

Oh wait nevermind its just a joke

[random heath]

youre fine

[tropic willow]

Just icons

And maybe Add on benefits/changes?

Maybe the hand beam will make a return as an add on

Since some people said they preferred that

[vague crater]

That would be a neat iri addon
Makes the power work like the earlier versions of it just refined

[tiny star]

That'd be pretty cool yeah. Its rare we get iridescents that change a power up to that degree though

[tropic willow]

Yea but its still a thing theyve done before so its a possibility, who knows though.

[echo folio]

For those asking when

[fickle scarab]

Behavior has stated this like five times now

[forest mango]

It's gonna come out in like November

[echo folio]

And yet people keep asking

[fickle scarab]

they stated this back in like december or november

[muted estuary]

Hopefully they make massive changes between now and then

[celest nova]

do we know what todays grimoire discussion will be about?

[indigo abyss]

Probably about the new vote

[celest nova]

hm i dont even think i voted tbf lol

[indigo abyss]

You can still vote in the new ones

[celest nova]

that killer cosmetic vote killed me off 💔

[indigo abyss]

Okay

[calm rain]

YOU COULD HAVE TIPPED THE SCALES!!!!

[celest nova]

my vote means the world i know… but then again neither options looked that appealing to me 💔

[calm rain]

FAAAAAHHHHHH

[celest nova]

i like darker themes for killers because i prefer using or going against an actual scary killer not a glowstick

[calm rain]

fair enough but that one cosmetic was Eldridge ;-;

[celest nova]

pardon?

[indigo abyss]

Dark =/= Scary

And vice versa

[gaunt dawn]

I grew up on classic horror. the same ol, same ol doesnt work when you are incredibly used to it.

For some people all it takes to frighten them is a little darkness, gore and jumpscares. But once you get desensitized to it, it losses its appeal quite quickly. Things that have physical form look more..... IDK.... fightable, mortal. If it can bleed it can die.

Something so infallible, something so imposing, the existential horrors. Thats what has grown to be scarier to me.

Also, it doesnt help that every horror series I ever grew up on ended up having [Blank] goes to space. While going complete camp after the 4th or 5th movies.

[sweet iris]

Are you going to address the balance issues with the killers who are currently far too weak? If so, which ones, and how?

[celest nova]

what times the grimoire discussion stream

[muted estuary]

The new killer has a maneuverable ranged attack?

[jade palm]

Is the next vote for the Grimoire happening today? it's the perk and add-on icons, right? when will they be revealed?

[celest nova]

Id also like to know when the grimoire stream is ^

[jade palm]

the QnA stream seems to be on May 1st, but not sure if the next voting is going to be a stream or an announcement they make on their socials. last time, they did the latter then did a stream in the middle of the grimoire voting.

[indigo abyss]

1 hour 15 minutes from now

Unless the timer is messed up again, in which cause it’s in just 15 minutes

[gaunt dawn]

this whole voting thing has been a lot of fun

[fickle scarab]

Your mother has been a lot of fun

[gaunt dawn]

Im glad someone is spending time with her, happy for her

[indigo abyss]

https://tenor.com/view/cat-flash-bang-flashbang-cat-flashbang-gif-1459407154621315725

<@&480465015267262484>

[jade palm]

an hour it is (as I post this)

[verbal quest]

whats yall survivor main???

[flat bison]

Was it handled?

[indigo abyss]

Yeah

[dull lodge]

when is the grimvotes ?

is it today ?

[indigo abyss]

https://tenor.com/view/omni-man-wheres-mark-william-omni-man-meme-you-are-not-safe-invincible-gif-12200603688986882222

[pearl shuttle]

Anyone else tired hearing about this Grimoire?

[gilded blade]

Nope

Making our own chapter is cool as hell

I'd rather be more involved than less

[pearl shuttle]

When is it coming out exactly?

[gilded blade]

Sometime this year

[indigo abyss]

Past anniversary*

[dull lodge]

aw men :c

[jade palm]

I don't think it's happening today

[pearl shuttle]

Don’t get me wrong, I’m happy about it. But talking about it nonstop just for it to not be released yet is getting old & gonna lose the “hype” of it.

[jade palm]

they posted a reminder of the May 1st stream

[indigo abyss]

LIERS

[dull lodge]

.

i know its today but its kinda late ?

[jade palm]

so If I have to guess, it might come out tomorrow or May 1st

[gaunt dawn]

It went from caludette in 2016 to adam later on because he was like a school teacher and I really liked his clothes. At some point felix came out and I stuck with him for a while. I do like mikeala but I dont play her as much and I played a decent amount of Vittorio. Nowadays my top played survivors are Belmont and Taurie.

Truth be told Survivors after you unlock the perks are more or less just skin variants.

With that in mind I feel the strongest pull with the castlevania stuff

[dull flame]

i dont think so, were getting a lot of real updates about it and its hype
every vote they do is actually interesting and gets people talking

[pearl shuttle]

fair

[gaunt dawn]

Perk wise, I LOVE Elevens Perks

[dull flame]

also yea what happened to this XD

[jade palm]

I guess it's a subject to change

[dull flame]

fair

[tropic willow]

Huh

[indigo abyss]

Their website literally says “vote now”

[dull lodge]

Theres nothing to vote on

[dull flame]

also its crazy that they will already have chase music prototypes by may

[indigo abyss]

Menu music

[gaunt dawn]

Id give it a bit, they are probably working on getting it up

[dull flame]

oh nvm xD

[tropic willow]

Ngl i stopped caring as much when every cosmetic ive liked has lost

[dull flame]

its usually 1 or 2 pm, it could also be friday, i remember they sometimes do it on fridays

[gaunt dawn]

I hope we get some stuff that will make you as excited as I am. I know that its the nature of the whole thing

[dull lodge]

Its 7pm here

[tropic willow]

I hope we get the losers eventually tbh but im not hopeful

[dull flame]

unlucky considering it was a 50/50 with 4 options XD

[dull flame]

i dont think theyll waste the designs right? same thing for the survs that lost in the initial votes

[indigo abyss]

Me caught on camera at BHVR HQ

[dull flame]

😔

[jade palm]

guess they couldn't make enough icons for the voting today

[gaunt dawn]

Im really hoping they bring out both of the killer skins

[jade palm]

oh well

[tropic willow]

Youd think they would of at least said something about the vote being delayed

[jade palm]

guess we have to wait either soon or on May 1st

[tropic willow]

Nah was probably the add ons

[gaunt dawn]

A delay to me is a good sign

[dull lodge]

i was wating the fucking day for what 12h shift 😭

[dull flame]

Where's the grimoire?

[tropic willow]

https://tenor.com/view/caine-disappearing-dying-death-disappearance-gif-3762382589221955500

All these caine posts and none of the most fitting one

[dull flame]

why is he still gone

why does the gif last so long lmfao

[jade palm]

Best-case scenario: votes is between 24th - 30th,
Good-case scenario: the votes is on May 1st
Bad-case scenario: they announce the voting date on May 1st
Worse-Case scenario: they don't even mention the date and just say 'soon'

[indigo abyss]

https://gif.fxtwitter.com/tweet_video/HEx6ZVQawAA8ftQ.webp

[tropic willow]

Comedic effect

[gaunt dawn]

Im less worried about when we vote, Im more focused on whats happening behind the curtain

To me a delay can be a good thing as they take into consideration conversations

[calm rain]

Same

I am very curious…

-# gonna be real… I ran out of funny juice :(

[tropic willow]

Either good or bad

[indigo abyss]

The website has been updated

[gilded ore]

I'm thrilled to hear you guys are excited to vote, regardless!

Tune in may 1st! https://discord.gg/ftvshDBht?event=1496951253106950184

[hoary crater]

Do we know what we'll be voting on May 1st? :o

[final yew]

isnt the grimoire vote supposed to be today?

[indigo abyss]

Next voting is on 7th
@final yew
@hoary crater

[final yew]

oh it changed

thanks

[dim bear]

@craggy heart 🚫➡️ Your message content contains flagged text

[muted estuary]

Lets vote to scrap the whole thing

[dim bear]

@craggy heart 🚫➡️ Your message content contains flagged text

[calm rain]

Twice huh? Crazy

[calm rain]

Stfu

Who let this guy in…

And why is this getting on my nerves

[muted estuary]

Skill issue ig

[calm rain]

It’s never gonna happened man- you can’t get rid of it

[tropic willow]

On your part yea.

[muted estuary]

I buy the company and burn out the servers that hold this abomination

[calm rain]

Gooooooood luck

[vagrant shard]

On May 1st, will it only be Q&A, or will the process of the designs of the chapter also be shown?

[calm rain]

Probs both

[modern gust]

XBOX and PS5 players should be able to read chat
Replay system so you can learn from your mistakes

• Easy tasks to do by the noob devs before making noob content, do some real work

[remote tree]

Making the game better takes more time and is more difficult if they only worked on making the game better while we wait the game would get dry

[indigo abyss]

Buddy, this had nothing to do with the grimoire

[remote tree]

Lmao I forgot to say that

[stone ridge]

Does anyone know when the grimoire chapter will come out?

[severe fern]

they said it would be sometime this year, so i assume at the end of 2026

but it can still be subject to change

[indigo abyss]

I feel that second release past anniversary is more likely

We know that chapters take around a year to make so that would check out that box

[silver shadow]

Do y’all think there will be a map with the grimoire chapter? I lowkey hope so. Like a spiritual map or something xD

[fickle scarab]

Theyve said several times that it will be releasing late 2026

[gaunt dawn]

I think they said there wouldn't be but I like to see one

A giant cathedral with stained glass and a ruined section would be awesome

The stained glass can have figures that look almost alien. Something strange. Like its a revered darkness shrouded in light.

[muted estuary]

Rewind the votes to the beginning. Give us new concepts!

I dont want to play against a ranged killer with draculas hellfire

[silver shadow]

Aww dang it. That sucks, you would think that a big chapter like this would have a map. Oh well. But ya your idea of a cathedral would lowkey be so cool.

[muted estuary]

Or at least give us a quick way to die to it so we dont have to quit and suffer the penalty

[indigo abyss]

Elaborate

[calm rain]

Ignore him- he’s just rage bait at this point

[indigo abyss]

I understand but I can’t help but wonder what could have possibly lead to them making this particular statement

[muted estuary]

Thats the new killer. Ranged fairy that teleports you to an area where you dodged pillars of flames, i mean light

[indigo abyss]

Yeah okay that checks out

[calm rain]

I love that concept- it’s nice and new

[fickle scarab]

No its not?

Oh wait I misread

nevermind

<@&480465015267262484>

bot again

[dim bear]

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[dim bear]

@errant sable ℹ️➡️ Unable to DM the user due to their privacy settings or lack of shared servers

[tropic willow]

They said there wouldnt be but hope they change their mind

[little pagoda]

I hope that they bring blasphemous acts back into the power kit,makes the power WAY MORE unique than Plague 2.0

[indigo abyss]

Plague?

[fickle scarab]

Current version of the power is inflicting sin by hitting the survivors with the ranged attack

As opposed to what we voted for in sin accumulated based on survivor actions

[indigo abyss]

I understand

But Plague?

[fickle scarab]

Well she infects people with her power

And you cleanse at shrinelike things

[indigo abyss]

It’s a fountain

Anyway, there are just much better examples to compare the sin mechanic to

[olive blaze]

Hey DBD, I have three questions:

1: Do you think the killers powers will have the ability to break the pallets and breakable walls?

2: Is there gonna be more powers for the killer besides the Ray of Retribution and other things we saw in the prototype version?

3: Will the new Survivor (Aurora) have the ability to use Scientific Rituals to stun the killer if she ever has one?

That is all I can ask👌🏻

[indigo abyss]

1. No, not by default
2. Killer’s powers (Ray, Sin status, Exile) have been chosen by the community a long while ago, at this point we shouldn’t expect any other powers as it would make the killer very convoluted
3. We’re already aware of what perks she will have:

Fruits of Your Labor: "A Token perk that gives incremental Haste and healing."

Salvation's Cry: "A perk that shares Auras when the Killer starts a chase."

Boon: Steadfast: "A Boon perk that makes a single generator's progress permanent."

[olive blaze]

Okay thank you for telling✌🏻

Edit: I totally forgot we already got Aurora’s perks, So… my bad😅, Also I didn’t know those were the only powers that y’all mentioned in y’all’s community a while back cuz I have been focusing on others games lately and I was taking a break from y’all’s game, Also I love your profile pic😁

[tropic willow]

Its plague mixed with a few other killers if gonna compare it to existing ones but i see what they mean

Even if its not entirely accurate

[finite idol]

do i get mastermind or nightmate?

[tropic willow]

Thats up to you. Probably better off asking #game-questions or #general-chat I enjoy nightmare gameplay wise more tho personally

i mainly just play ghostface, chucky, and sadako though my self

[slow ore]

U liek pressing m1

[vagrant shard]

Hopeless Exile

[indigo abyss]

I sure hope so

[timber otter]

Does someone wants to play?

[indigo abyss]

#looking-for-group

[timber otter]

Thx

[tropic willow]

Its almost as if every killer has an M1

[fickle scarab]

m1 bubba is peak dbd gamign

[slow ore]

Raealy

[fickle scarab]

Victor doesnt smh

[azure token]

[wintry goblet]

when’s the release of the chapter?

[tropic willow]

In a way he does

[severe fern]

We have no exact date, but i expect at the end of 2026

[glacial saddle]

what will the chapter have

[indigo abyss]

New killer - The Judgement
New survivor - Aurora (Surname)

[glacial saddle]

cool

[indigo abyss]

<@&480465015267262484>

[indigo abyss]

<@&480465015267262484>

[dim bear]

✅➡️ Banned thfxybry. with reason compromised account
(1 ban(s) on record | 2 total logs)

[indigo abyss]

<@&480465015267262484>

[dim bear]

✅➡️ [NO DM] Banned quality_reality_virtual_life with reason compromised account
(1 ban(s) on record | 7 total logs)

[indigo abyss]

This is getting ridiculous

[calm rain]

Indeed

[deep locust]

Buff Chucky

[indigo abyss]

Why is #grimoire-discussion above #game-discussion in the channel list

[random heath]

no idea what youre talking about

[indigo abyss]

https://tenor.com/view/dexter-gif-1878760417600646737

[echo folio]

Psst, Toast, Nemo, what do you think you'll graviate to in terms of the killer addons

[indigo abyss]

We don’t even know what we’ll vote for

Icons? Effects? Both?

[tropic willow]

Pretty much what Nemo said lol id have to see the options before having an opinion

[echo folio]

I guess... just wanted to bring the discussion back to the chapter

[gilded star]

[winged comet]

(My post copy-pasted from the forum.)

Summary of what we know about killer power so far:
The killer has a Nemesis/Krasue effect to apply a status before actually getting damage.
Killer has an executioner-style hook state option.
Killer is ranged and has strikethrough.
Survivors can choose where to bring their teammates back to via killer objects (Plague's fountains or Nightmare's clocks).
Survivors get an artifact in exile that is an extra gameplay mechanic that has no effect outside.

I believe that the killer should have more going for them.
As they don't have:
A unique status effect.
Meaningful artifacts for the killer to take into account and play around.
Any power bound to LB or CTRL.

I believe that the way to remedy this is to give the killer three different "Commandments" in a menu opened by pressing CTRL.

For a minute at a time an effect causes survivors to gain passive sin based off of what they are doing.
I.E.
'Work:' Survivors in lockers, crouching, walking, and standing still, gain passive sin over the course of a minute.

'Pray:' While survivors are not in the killer's terror radius or are outside 4 meters of a totem or killer item.

'Rest:' While survivors are repairing a generator, healing, or cleansing a totem.

That way the killer has some way to force survivors to interact in different ways, and with an individual 1-2 minute cooldown, the killer can get into a rhythm of regularly sending each commandment in an order of their choosing.

I'm not sure what would change on the survivor side of things, with the sin status effect and all, but you can't go wrong with oblivious at 1-20 seconds of sin, blindness at 21-40, and killer instinct at 41-60.

Survivor artifacts could make it so sin is removed after having performed a specific task, like healing someone else, or when a generator is completed, or being chased by the killer. With aura reading to assist with those tasks, like having aura reading on the closest "task requirement."

Ideas? Thoughts? Any survivor mains that want to weigh in?

I understand that "Rest" can be pretty brutal, and the numbers on the sin status effect are really rough at second glance

[indigo abyss]

Frankly speaking Sin mechanic shouldn’t be that complex

It should definitely be more complex than just a third health state, so there’s a middle ground to be found here

[winged comet]

I beg to differ, the killer we voted on was a control/status effect killer

[indigo abyss]

I understand

All I’m saying is that it shouldn’t be that complex

[winged comet]

Can you pin down what you don't like?

[indigo abyss]

In my vision there would the passive sin gain and the active sin gain

[winged comet]

Ah, I thought I bridged the gap well enough

[indigo abyss]

Passive sin gain would happen with prolonged interactions, such as repairing, healing, etc and would be enhanced at certain moments (when someone is hooked/exiled for example)

Active gain would happen in chunks, such as proposed “not taking a hit for a teammate” or “tbagging the killer”

[winged comet]

I think that having the passive sin gain on repair isn't that great, as the devs tested that kind of thing and said it doesn't feel good on either side

[indigo abyss]

I think the passive gain should be minor

[winged comet]

But if it's so little, why have it at all?

[indigo abyss]

But then when someone is hooked (or under other conditions) it accelerates massively

[winged comet]

I think solo que would suffer greatly from this

Not trying to put down your idea by the way, I just type like this lol

[indigo abyss]

Solo q will suffer regardless, exile alone will cost so many hook states because of unaware survivors

I’ve already kinda come in terms with this

But we’re still on the same page here, we both want devs to follow the pillars they presented

[winged comet]

By doing this, you set up a snowball killer that can get out of control very fast. Not sure how I feel about that

Very True

So far we have pillar 3 I guess.

[indigo abyss]

oh I remember a question I wanted to ask

[winged comet]

Go on

[indigo abyss]

It’s for the community coordinator as a part of upcoming q&a

@gilded ore Hens mentioned that in previous prototypes there was a mechanic where the Judgement would empower its Ray of Retribution after sending someone into the Exile, which was removed for the build the consultants showcased. Is this part of the kit now scrapped or was simply being renovated?

[winged comet]

I know I wasn't asked, but wasn't it supposed to put the killer into their 'worldbreaker' mode?

[indigo abyss]

Pretty much

[indigo abyss]

<@&480465015267262484>

[dim bear]

✅➡️ [NO DM] Banned wallywally9111 with reason scams
(1 ban(s) on record | 7 total logs)

[rancid bloom]

Wonder if we’ll get a vote for the perks

[fickle scarab]

we already did

[calm rain]

You are VERY behind

[rancid bloom]

Admittedly I’ve been away from DBD for a couple of months

[calm rain]

Ah that makes sense

[echo folio]

Technically we will vote for perks again, just the icons this time

[calm rain]

Can’t wait to get the update
=)

I think it’s in 3 hours?

Idk because I’m in Europe

[rancid bloom]

Im sure they will be fire

[calm rain]

I hope

[smoky mist]

I just wanna how much is the bp bonus per game and if it will be 2v8 only or all modes

Oh wrong chat

[ancient void]

eh

[topaz linden]

Gosh I can't wait to vote for the perk icons; the delay is killing me

[tough terrace]

and who knows when that will be? they kind of left us in the dark as to when the next vote will be when they cancelled the vote suddenly on thursday

[indigo abyss]

7th of May

[tough terrace]

is that when we are voting for the icons though? I know that was the vote for the sound stuff

did they just combine it all together?

[indigo abyss]

We don’t know

We’ll probably find out on Friday

But before that happens we just know that next voting should be on 7th

[olive yarrow]

Wait, are we voting for those as well? That's ultra cool!

[indigo abyss]

The one on 23rd got delayed

[midnight pelican]

When will the 23rd be on?

[tropic willow]

Think they said the 7th if i remember correctly

Or was a stream for the grimoire i cant remember exactly

[topaz linden]

I thought May 1st

[tropic willow]

Probably, like i said “if i remember correctly” which i can 100% be remembering wrong

<@&480465015267262484>

Oh wait message got deleted

[gilded blade]

[tropic willow]

Guessing you beat me to it as i tried to ping lol

Was pinging because another “check my bio” bot.

[winged comet]

It's interesting that we'll be voting for the add-ons. I wonder if that means the Icons or the effects...

[verbal glacier]

is there any information on when the chapter will release?

[fickle scarab]

Late 2026

[calm rain]

My brother in Christ- we past the 23

[indigo abyss]

That’s…That’s what I said

[calm rain]

Ima crash out 😔

[tropic willow]

They said that one was delayed in the same message

[indigo abyss]

They’s what I said

[calm rain]

https://tenor.com/view/yugioh-punch-ground-punching-ground-it-shouldve-been-me-it-shouldve-been-me-not-him-gif-27446150

[winged comet]

Why is it always so empty in here? Aren't the devs looking for questions to answer for the may 1st thing?

[fickle scarab]

Its empty cause there isnt really anything to talk about

[regal hollow]

u act like bhvr cares about community

[azure token]

Some of the devs do, but they can’t really care for us when they have their jobs at stake because of higher ups

[fickle scarab]

They do actually read this channel

[valid roost]

I really wish we got information n the vote that was supposed to be last week

[regal hollow]

yet they didnt do anything

[indigo abyss]

What were they supposed to do

[fickle scarab]

This channel is for the grimoire

[regal hollow]

idk make the game playable?😭

[indigo abyss]

It’s #grimoire-discussion

[regal hollow]

love the argument👍

[indigo abyss]

they read the channel for the grimoire
yet they don’t do anything
what are they supposed to do
fix the game

Okay fairnuff

[winged comet]

Teto!

[azure token]

Teto.

[slim hamlet]

is there a rough estimate of a release date?

[deft minnow]

Near the end of the year, so about 6+ months minimum

[stark radish]

sable

[winged comet]

Oh, BTW, since there are more people on now for some reason, still looking for alternative opinions about this.

It's a forum post I made about problems I have with the killer (as seen in showcase at least) and additions to the power I would make.

[indigo abyss]

That would be maximum

It’s either around September or near December

[deft minnow]

Do you have any concrete proof to back up your statement, or is that just a guess

[indigo abyss]

It’s 2026

It’s not the anniversary chapter

Which leaves us with 2 chapter release windows

August-September or November-December

[deft minnow]

Fair enough, the math adds up

[vivid terrace]

im SO excited for this bro

[soft mist]

Same, although barely any of the options I chose won (except granny).

[vivid terrace]

me too its okay LOL

[tropic willow]

Won*

Also same for the most part. Perks, a few starting ones like Otherworldly killer and apocalypse survivor. Granny, her name, and her base outfit (clothes not the head.)

Not a single killer cosmetic, weapon, or name i voted for won

[soft mist]

Dang you're right :\

[tropic willow]

Imma just hope the two losing designs for killer get turned into cosmetics later down the line once its out for me to really care to use the new killer

Tbh the spear was the only weapon i DIDNT want to win yet it did

Oh the mori i voted for won too forgot that one

[manic ravine]

The survivor cosmetics likely will.

[tropic willow]

Idc about those as much i just want the losing killer ones tbh both designs i liked lost

[little pagoda]

Idea: What if The Judgment had a lullaby that is practically a macabre choir.

[indigo abyss]

Couldn’t it just be a part of its terror radius

[little pagoda]

I mean,Huntress chapter is called A Lullaby for the Dark and she has a lullaby

[indigo abyss]

So

Why couldn’t it be a part of tr?

[little pagoda]

It could,but a choir lullaby would give It more personality

[vagrant shard]

Most likely gonna be September. Because in the prototype gameplay, it’s said “K44” probably meaning Killer 44. And The First is Killer 42. And the anniversary killer will be killer 43.

And 3 months after June is September

[indigo abyss]

Not a concrete confirmation but yeah I also tend to think it’ll be that one

[vagrant shard]

Not a confirmation, just an educated guess. Because BHVR always releases a new killer every 3 months

And every anniversary chapter is on June

[indigo abyss]

Well yeah we know there will be a killer released around that time

Unless they drastically change their chapter release schedule

[vagrant shard]

It would be quite unfortunate if that were to happen. However, in the grimoire voting where we vote on the voices, I wonder if it’ll be a description of their voice or it will have audio files where we can listen to the killer’s and survivor’s voices. I just hope The Judgement’s voice is like a choir

[vagrant shard]

Skull merchant’s chapter is called “tools of torment” but nothing about her gameplay suggests tormenting the survivor with various tools

[little pagoda]

Drones are tools

[subtle spear]

@stuck wave hey its usaprosniper I just wanna talk, I dont know what I did wrong

im sorry

@stuck wave I thought we had a geniune connection last night

[dusty quartz]

👀

[rich blade]

vouch

[subtle spear]

based

[ocean root]

😭

[tropic willow]

https://tenor.com/view/popcorn-gif-9626201844488895386

Anyways what kinda add ons does everyone think we’re gonna vote on

[surreal isle]

https://giphy.com/gifs/week-finals-summed-mRh4cLIYhrs9G

[subtle spear]

@stuck wave

[subtle spear]

@stuck wave

[calm rain]

What the hell did I miss???

I leave for like- 3 or 5 days and I come back to see chaos?

[tropic willow]

What chaos?

[indigo abyss]

Yeah nothing happened

[calm rain]

Well- it looked like chaos at first ;-;

Anywho— what I miss?

[indigo abyss]

Maybe after today there will be some chaos

[calm rain]

Something happening today

[indigo abyss]

Yeah

[calm rain]

Do tell :3

[indigo abyss]

Q&A

[calm rain]

. . . OH SHIIIIIIT

W

[tropic willow]

Oh i forgot about that being today

[gaunt dawn]

So excited, I need to prepare my questions

[indigo abyss]

Uhhhh

You were kinda supposed to ask them for the last months

[gaunt dawn]

Its honestly because its one of the least congested channels so they think its easier for their comment to be seen. People dont just go through these many hoops to just casually make a comment, chances are they were really loud and wasnt feeling heard so they came here. Probably after a real rough match

[indigo abyss]

Wait what

[gaunt dawn]

EVERYONE IS HERE! que smash bros music

[onyx oxide]

Fingers crossed for a killer/survivor community skin competition.

[gaunt dawn]

I got some hardball and softball questions lined up

[tawdry parcel]

How do one join the stream?

[indigo abyss]

Wait till they open the stage

Then join as a regular vc

[soft basin]

LET ME INNN!!!!

[vagrant shard]

If you hold down on the vc, it says “join stage”

[indigo abyss]

It’s open now

[valid roost]

OTZ!

[tough terrace]

WAIt

is is THE JUDGMENT or THE JUDGEMENT

[dull flame]

lmfao you get sin by teabagging and waiting in the gates

[surreal isle]

Oh myyyyy

[dull lodge]

just a quesation when can we vote ?

[indigo abyss]

7th of May

[valid roost]

Really?

okay it is

[indigo abyss]

There’s a countdown on their website

[calm rain]

Alrighty people- what we think about the new “lore” that was given?

[winged comet]

Bros, they got my name wrong. (I just swapped it because I forgot to)
PolarBearChloe from PolarBearClone

[tawdry parcel]

Noo they didn't answer my question from reddit😭

[winged comet]

Oh, what was it?

[indigo abyss]

There wasn’t any lore given

[signal hound]

They kind of answered a bunch of indentical questions.

[calm rain]

I mean the updates about the killer

[tawdry parcel]

For the Survivors we didn't get from the Grimoire. Could we create a Jane doe and a John doe survivors. Who could store all the lost survivors in the Grimoire that didn't get enough votes?

Other than that having a Jane/John Doe that has a legendary skin in a hospital gown with fresh Autopsy scars. With faded eye colors and a nametag at the foot?

These Jane/John Doe's can work like The legion cosmetics. Or Aestri and Baemar cosmetics.

The idea to have different races, clothing style etc to create the best way to customize different survivors!
This could alsoneasily get Zombie skins. And missing people cosmetics, lisenced or made up, or real life.

This was my question🥰

[indigo abyss]

I sent all the important stuff above

[gaunt dawn]

Thank you BHVR, I had a lovely time, Sorry for the spam. Enjoyed every moment of it

[indigo abyss]

Oh wait you’re asking how we feeling

Uh, it’s much better now

This killer is going to kill the shit out of solo q but oh well

[tawdry parcel]

I did have a example sketch picture as well. But I cannot post pictures here

[calm rain]

Lmao

[gaunt dawn]

Its unfortunate because Ive been staying away from social media as a whole

[indigo abyss]

Nah that’s honestly okay, there weren’t many important questions answered

Honestly the first part where they just gave some updates was way more interesting

[tawdry parcel]

They's true

They answered many questions before they started

[gaunt dawn]

I think some of the questions they answered actually directly addressed some questions I had

and not to mention, some questions were answered in chat

[onyx oxide]

If the Devs are taking ideas for new Blasphemies:

1. Looking at the killer for too long (like ghost face, but more forgiving).
2. Spamming fast vaults / rapidly exiting and entering lockers.
3. Rapidly clicking a flashlight on and off near the killer.

[fickle scarab]

Flashlight clicking is a good one actually

they want to impliment gaining sin for taunting and that is one means of taunting or just being annoyiung

No idea how they would impliment this though

[gaunt dawn]

you know how when you are in chase you go over the same vault location 3 times and the entity blocks it but not if your not in chase?

Make it so if the survivors goes over the same vault more than 3 times without chase cause sin

[fickle scarab]

thats such a niche scenerio tho

[gaunt dawn]

its just one part in a list of blasphemes

it does happen

[fickle scarab]

Reminds me

I wonder how they will communicate what youre doing that gains sin

Like maybe categories of sin types

[indigo abyss]

I mean the sin is binary

And it always has the same effect

[fickle scarab]

I mean in terms of communicating what sort of actions you did that caused the sin to gain

Its all building the same effect but it would make it easier to understand whats building it perhaps

[strange wren]

Maybe a border or some effect on the screen indicating that sin is building up? Or just a list under the power section

[gaunt dawn]

I think they mean for the survivors

[fickle scarab]

No I mean something to communicate what sort of action occured that build up the sin

[hidden salmon]

Is the ray range mapwide like artist crows? Or does it dissapate after a few meters

[fickle scarab]

they never said

[gaunt dawn]

it has a lifetimer based on all the footage Ive seen

[hidden salmon]

I'm wondering if you could snipe someone praying on the other side of the map

[gaunt dawn]

so it does dissapate

[gaunt dawn]

I dont think so

[strange wren]

Maybe a debuff icon that shows the action

[fickle scarab]

maybe that will be an addon like one of pyramid head's irris lol

[hidden salmon]

Well depending on the amount of shrines and if you could see their exact locations, you would probably do a lot of drivebys just incase someone is praying on one of them

[strange wren]

Hopefully

[fickle scarab]

Seal of Metatron on Pyramid Head is really gimmicky in its application tho

[agile robin]

I like pyramid head and if tgis killer is going to be anything like pyramid head then I will like them too

[fickle scarab]

Judgement isn't going to have the same zoning aspect of pyramid head but the attack and remote hooking and mori are similar

[hidden salmon]

Did they say anything about the "camping" of exile. I'm pretty they said one of the shrines gets designated as an exile shrine, right. what happens if you just protect that

[fickle scarab]

They didnt talk about it

[indigo abyss]

There’re at least 2 of them available to survivors

2 closest to the killer at the moment of exile

[bright delta]

can the devs rework james sunderlands model? it’s been highly requested since the release of the new silent hill 2, and i think it’s more reasonable to do so considering that he’s a legendary skin

[indigo abyss]

https://forums.bhvr.com/dead-by-daylight/categories/suggestions

[bright delta]

thank you

[tacit jolt]

Maybe like after you get sin applied with you there’re will be a voice line from the judgement only you can hear saying what kind of sin you got

[indigo abyss]

That’s a cool idea

[tacit jolt]

That way it feels in character of this evil angel who’s always watching and waiting to punish you for your misdeeds, and it helps people who are new to the killer understand what counts and what doesn’t

Plus it still keeps sin as a status effect binary

[indigo abyss]

Now that I think about it it’s not even guaranteed that the Judgement will speak English or any existing language at all

[tacit jolt]

And any specific stuff can just be addons for flare

[indigo abyss]

It could be a plague sort of deal

It most likely won’t, but it’s funny to think about

[pseudo blaze]

Does anyone have a run down on the questions asked and answered in regards to the Q&A?

[indigo abyss]

Most of the questions were answered in the slides they showed before the Q&A started funnily enough

But from what wasn’t mentioned on those slides (will update as I recollect what’s been said):
• The killer is planned to stay 4.4
• Exile will have different layouts from game to game
• There will be a second mori
• The artefact’s appearance will be tied to the lore
• Taunting includes tbagging and staying at the exit gates for too long (at least that’s what we know of for now)

[tacit jolt]

I can’t wait for the second mori to be the SpongeBob Benadryl meme

[pseudo blaze]

Is the only thing in regards to sin a skill check penalty?

[indigo abyss]

That and survivors being exile-able

Which in turn also empowers the killer

[pseudo blaze]

Little bit underwhelming but I guess it is in development

I think making survivors take longing to heal (outside of slugging conditions) or unhook would be interesting

[indigo abyss]

I mean it’s way better that sin just being a third health state

[pseudo blaze]

I appreciate your helpfulness though

[indigo abyss]

The killer is already extremely complex as is

[pseudo blaze]

No no you're completely right I just thought sin would have a little bit more "umph" you know?

[indigo abyss]

I’ve always seen means to how one gains sin to be way more important than what it actually does

[vagrant shard]

Do they even look at those? 🫩

[indigo abyss]

They definitely don’t look in #grimoire-discussion for feedback

[pseudo blaze]

To gain sin it's just being hit by the power and tainting. Right?

[vagrant shard]

First time survivors get punished for tbagging? Nice

[indigo abyss]

For now yes but from what I understand they also want to further expand on sin gain with add-ons

They still explore other ways in general

[pseudo blaze]

Oh I see I see

Thank you so much for your information

is there anything else of note?

[indigo abyss]

Not really

Nothing that’s really important to the gameplay

[pseudo blaze]

Anything in regards to outfits?

[indigo abyss]

Nope

Pretty much all answers were regarding the gameplay, design or work process

[echo swift]

i missed the fucking event?

[indigo abyss]

Apparently

PaulieEsther streamed the whole thing so you can check out his vod

[tropic willow]

Oh ok good. Last time they had a stream and knew he was watching i didnt see him have a VOD out to be able to rewatch it afterwards

[golden herald]

What did they talk about in the livestream. Quick run down plz

[indigo abyss]

@golden herald

[golden herald]

I know they going all out but the regressing skill checks alone is too much. This coming from a surv&killer player

[indigo abyss]

Nah

[calm rain]

Honestly… I love it

[tropic willow]

Regressing skill checks?

[calm quartz]

How long does it take to go one tier up in the rift pass? Cuz i'm only at page 4

[tropic willow]

Depends if doing challenges

[calm quartz]

Wait theres challenges for the rift pass?

[tropic willow]

Each challenge tends to = a level just about if not a big portion of one

[calm quartz]

Oh i didnt knew that

[tropic willow]

Yea. All challenges (sept old tome ones) count towards the rift

[indigo delta]

Hey I can’t find anything about the Q&A, did they say the loser skins are being released in a later date?

[tropic willow]

Even the limited event ones

[calm quartz]

Are these challenges on the quest section? Or where :V

[tropic willow]

I didnt watch it but Paulie Streamed it so he should have a VOD so you can watch it

[tropic willow]

The quests are what i meant

[calm quartz]

Thx

[indigo delta]

Who?

[tropic willow]

Im just used to calling them challenges

[tropic willow]

Paulie Eshter a DBD streamer/youtuber

He tends to cover any news on the game as well as rumors and theories

Not sure if this will get flagged for being a link or not but heres his VOD of the Q&A

https://www.twitch.tv/videos/2761659734

So just give it watch if wanna know what they covered in the stream

Imma be watching it after work

[calm quartz]

2v8 trapper is lowkey what trapper would look like if he was tier A

I love playing trapper on 2v8 and turning the map in a minefield while making My teammate chases more easier

[fickle scarab]

Have you played Trapper paired with Nemi yet? Its wild

[tropic willow]

How so

[topaz linden]

Old Ruin Bay-bee

[fickle scarab]

Nemesis's zombies are giga buffed on their own. He has four of them, they have a really long detection range, and they move significantly faster. Coupled with locking down the map with traps survivors end up zoned really bad, and can even be hit by zombies while trapped

[calm quartz]

Ye

[tropic willow]

Ah ok

Not to mention they spawn hella quickly when youre doing a gen

Luckily both times that last part was an issue were matches i tamed the killers so they body gaurded me from the zombies

[glass jacinth]

Y'know I really hope this killer makes future designs more creative. like in the qna they said they were really restrictive on how the judgement realm works due to not ruining the core gameplay loop but like , wouldn't mixing up the loop not make it more fun ?

[glass jacinth]

Like my favorite killers are always the one that changes the primary characteristics in a creative fashion. Strategically using phead cages, rupturing dream pallets mid chase, etc etc. like those changes are really what makes a character stand out to me imo

[full wraith]

were there any answers on Aurora's perks? like deets?

[indigo abyss]

No, just killer related stuff

[full wraith]

damn.

[viral escarp]

I really hope Sin doesn't become another "infection" mechanic.

[indigo abyss]

Have you missed yesterday

[viral escarp]

Yeah it's boring

[indigo abyss]

What is boring

[viral escarp]

Infection mechanics that are overused

[indigo abyss]

But it’s not an infection

It’s much more similar to Pyrmidhead’s torment

Which is a good thing

[viral escarp]

Yeah instead of getting caged across the map, you get sent to this new realm instead.

Still cool nonetheless.

[indigo abyss]

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[dim bear]

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[agile robin]

Lmao

[surreal isle]

[oak cypress]

Thank you!

[wanton cove]

Just read up on the QnA

So if you teabag or taunt the killer, you end up fueling its power.

That is Ingenious!

[indigo abyss]

That’s more of a gimmick since you can only taunt killer in chase and you’d probably get hit with the beam anyway, but it’s cool they kept it

[wanton cove]

Makes playing toxic heavily discouraged

Still whoever came up with that idea cooked

[indigo abyss]

Yeah it’s funny

Even if just conceptually

[fickle scarab]

It would be funny if they added an addon where you can't leave the gates when you have sin

[royal knot]

Everyone would be furious because apparently it's uncommon to just leave

[fickle scarab]

Springtrap has an addon that blocks the gate for someone with an axe embedded in them and everyone near them

[winged comet]

That would bring back old houndmaster gate blocking, I think.

[acoustic grove]

This would be really neat, reminds me of how you can't leave with active Pig traps

[fickle scarab]

Thats what I was mainly thinking of

[acoustic grove]

Is that one of the iri addons for pig?

[mellow wadi]

When does the chapter come out

[fickle scarab]

No her traps just do that by default

you can't leave the trial while a trap is active

Her traps only activate however if a generator is completed while its on the person

so she had to have placed the trap on you before the last gen was completed

[fickle scarab]

late 2026 is all they have stated

[acoustic grove]

Ohh okay

[tropic willow]

Base kit

[calm quartz]

Why does it take so long to go 1 tier up in the rift pass? It takes me like 3 matches...

[severe fern]

It’s sped up significantly if you do daily and rift challenges

[calm quartz]

I already did all rift challenges... I have to wait until monday for part 2 of that... 😠

[acoustic grove]

It's how it's always been tbf it's 100 points per level iirc

[tropic willow]

You get daily rift quests too

[severe fern]

It used to be 10 for one level, but it required more to get a rift fragment

It’s pretty much the same though

[tropic willow]

Different system same pace

[indigo abyss]

Why is everyone saying it’s late 2026 when they said it’s the second half of 2026

[tropic willow]

Because of the chapter release schedule being every 3 months and isnt the anniversary chapter (which they said it wasnt going to be)

[muted estuary]

Theyre actually penalising teabagging the killer??

[indigo abyss]

Mechanically speaking yeah

[tropic willow]

Good

[haughty rain]

People who main low tier killers might play the judgement cuz of how much bm low tier killers face

It doesnt affect me but it gets annoying when it happens every other game

[muted estuary]

Thats such a broken concept. Do i have to be close to the killer and teabagging for it to activate? Will i gain sin for the match start teabags we all do?

[trail moth]

Huh

[indigo abyss]

We don’t know

Most likely you have to be within a certain distance away from the killer

Maybe in their LOS

[trail moth]

Where are the new killer notes

[trail moth]

Thank you nemo

[indigo abyss]

You’re welcome

[muted estuary]

This killer is an instant skip for myself. Basekit gen regression, not fun

[haughty rain]

Huh

[indigo abyss]

Just remove the effect

[trail moth]

Im gonna fuck you

[indigo abyss]

Or hit those giant greats

[haughty rain]

aLr

[muted estuary]

Ranged, controllable attack and minigame for hook states?

[indigo abyss]

Is that supposed to sound bad

[muted estuary]

Just extra tasks to slow down game. Similar to pig trao

[trail moth]

is everyone just crying about the new killer? Or are we okay. Im not sure

[indigo abyss]

Is that supposed to sound bad

[muted estuary]

Im not looking forward to basekit gen regression

[indigo abyss]

Just do the shrine

[muted estuary]

Yeah, theyre all bad. Any killer that requires you to do extra objectives is boring

[indigo abyss]

Lmao

[trail moth]

Just hit the greats. Holy stake out and fast track meta rising again

[muted estuary]

Theres now 2 things this new killer does to slow down the game

[haughty rain]

hyper focus stake out got nerfed

[haughty rain]

good lmao

[trail moth]

I doubt ppl will get slow down from sin much because who just leaves a survivor mid chase. They will just stack sin and then down em

[muted estuary]

Id rather die on first hook then spend an extra 10 mins doing mini objectives

[indigo abyss]

You cannot hit that? Really?

[haughty rain]

do u bitch about plague and pig too?

[trail moth]

W

w Bolognese for protecting new killer

[muted estuary]

Im on xbox, so im not consistently hitting them. Framerate changes things

[trail moth]

May wanna invest in this is not happening lil brah

[indigo abyss]

Then do the shrine. For all we know it takes like 10 second if not less

That’s like mending

[muted estuary]

Speak English bud

[trail moth]

Its a perk but guess u dont know that

[tropic willow]

I hit greats all the time thats just a skill issue

[trail moth]

So real

[muted estuary]

Again, just extra objectives to prolonge game

[tropic willow]

Cause im on xbox too so using console as an excuse makes no sense. If you have crappy wifi then sure

[indigo abyss]

Yeah and there’s no excuse for you not to do them

Killer with no mobility has to have something to compensate for it

[trail moth]

U definitely cry again singularity and pig and any killer with slow down because you just expect free wins and the gens to pop in 5 seconds because you cannot loop to save ur life

[muted estuary]

I dont believe you consistently hit greats. Prove or stop talking

[muted estuary]

You sound mad

[indigo abyss]

You can 100% hit those consistently

[tropic willow]

I didnt say consistently i said all the time can you not read? Because i never said that word a single time

[muted estuary]

I didnt ask you dopey

[trail moth]

Eh you sound like the surivors who ruin killers with mid powers all the way to low tier like skull merchant who wasnt even op just ppl didnt like her slow down

[muted estuary]

Same thing. Get blocked for not understanding basic english

[indigo abyss]

I expected a more reasonable debate but oh well

[trail moth]

Always the one group of survivors who ruin having killer variety for the rest of us

[muted estuary]

Youre saying just do the extra objectives. Im saying that shit is boring

Not much of a debate

[trail moth]

Wait till you find out that you have to do gens in the game

[muted estuary]

I play trapper alot so..

[trail moth]

90 seconds of sitting and doing nothing btw

[indigo abyss]

That’s the fun part wdym

[trail moth]

Yeah hes complaining about objectives. Im saying survivor is about doing objectives

[muted estuary]

Ive talked about this also. There should be a minigame for the gen and not just skill checks

[muted estuary]

You literally just said gens is boring and want to add more boring ideas

[trail moth]

Dude sounds like you have adhd ngl. Your attention span must be hella low if you need constant stimulation mid GAME

[trail moth]

No i was being sarcastic you nut job. Gens are the whole point of survivors to escape. Just deal with objectives in the game

[tropic willow]

Lol saying i cant understand english when you didnt even read my comment correctly. Thats like a pot calling snow black not even a kettle. 😂

[muted estuary]

This guy has said ive adhd and im a nut job

[indigo abyss]

I understand that side objectives are not the most exciting things but this reaction is just funny

[muted estuary]

Easy block

[trail moth]

Not exactly proving me wrong

[muted estuary]

Why are they adding more killers with broken abilities?

[trail moth]

W rage bait

[muted estuary]

Controllable ranged attack is going to be so stupid on indoor maps like RPD

[trail moth]

Why is this new killer gonna be so hard to use? Its like blink but 50 times hard omg

[muted estuary]

Now we going to get stacks of regression for even teabagging LOL

[trail moth]

Probably hardest killer now in game. They need to buff new killer

[muted estuary]

Hopefully they release the killer filter with this killer and i dont have to quit the match

[indigo abyss]

Just don’t tbag

That’s not part of your objective

[muted estuary]

Its literally some of the only communication some survivors have

Its dumb to make it punishable

[indigo abyss]

I very much doubt you will be punished by pressing ctrl on the other side of the map away from the killer

[muted estuary]

Wait until killer starts WSing with no punishment

[indigo abyss]

Okay yeah it is bait

[muted estuary]

Bud do you want to go ahead and ignore me? You arent even talking about the game anymore

[tropic willow]

No its really not. Consistently implies i hit them back to back to back. Which i never once said. So either get your self a dictionary or get off your high horse.

[trail moth]

Squirtle is everything wrong with the dbd community

[muted estuary]

Tell the other two lads i dont check blocked messages lol

[tropic willow]

Tell the space cadet to get a dictionary

[trail moth]

I dont even know who he is talking to, guy blocking everyone and talking to a ghost

[tropic willow]

His personal demons probably

[tropic willow]

You were saying?

From the last match i just did

But no its “impossible to hit greats on xbox.”

As i said skill issue. Dont blame the console for not being able to hit a QTE

[trail moth]

Just realised can you just put ruin on this new killer and get everyone sinned and slug the game because no one can do gens. Cause no shrines to remove sin and good skills decrease progress

Thats kinda crazy ngl

[indigo abyss]

I’m fairly sure you can pray at any shrine

[trail moth]

Not active till someones in exhile

[indigo abyss]

Activated ones are needed to save teammates

[trail moth]

Oh suppose so then

Maybe inactive ones u can just pray at to remove sin but not save ppl

The build craft would have been godly tho

[muted estuary]

Cant wait to ignore them all

[trail moth]

Avg solo queue teammate

[tropic willow]

Fr typical useless teammate what else is new

Hope people ignore him on hook and exile as a result

Oh look another great skill check that are totally impossible on xbox

[tropic willow]

Could be like Pyramid head and can only get rid of yours by saving someone else that has it. Like how you can only get rid of barbed wire by unhooking someone from a cage.

[indigo abyss]

We can’t know exactly

[tropic willow]

Im just saying its a possibility

[indigo abyss]

Yeah

If I were to design it I’d make it so using activated shrine takes only a few seconds and it acts pretty much the same as torment and cages

But there’s also a secondary option of interacting with inactive shrines just to get rid of sin, which would take longer