grimoire-discussion

[minor pendant]

Anniversary should be in June, grimorie is gonna be later this year or sometime next year

[indigo abyss]

Should be this year

[minor pendant]

Really hoping

[indigo abyss]

Unless change of plans yada yada

[next dock]

november i think

[fickle scarab]

Guardian from Destiny

[vivid root]

is there only two pages?

[minor pendant]

Makes sense, but at same time as others have said. We really don’t know how much more there is to vote on.

[echo folio]

Meanwhile the other belongs in Little Nightmares

[minor pendant]

Or how long inbetween the last vote and the PTB for this chapter it will be

[jade palm]

look, I get people want the Nun, but I do fear that this would affect her backstory. which is why I would think Nun Aurora would be Taurie 2.0, and goes against the idea that I had of her up to this point.

[echo folio]

three. survivor, killer and chapter art

[vivid root]

THE THIRD PAGE WONT LOAD FOR MEEEUH

[echo folio]

Uh oh..

[next gorge]

whatishispdateognnaeabourt

[echo folio]

this is what it will look like

[vivid root]

only the first two pages will load bruh

[minor pendant]

Yeah I keep getting kicked off when I try to vote for the first page

[fresh elbow]

So like the nun skin for the survivor looks great… but why is she in flipflops…

[echo folio]

Idk, hence why I voted for battle ready Aurora

[fresh elbow]

I still voted for the nun skin but im praying they put her in normal shoes

[sage ermine]

Killer has wings and choose to walk with crab legs DBD community have zero taste

[celest bluff]

the visious mockery skin is really cool the art team keeps on winning

[fresh elbow]

I didnt want crab leg killer fr i wanted the second killer option

[sage ermine]

If that doesn’t win I lost all hope

[sage ermine]

The one that was floating

[celest bluff]

i did too, mainly for the head on it but i still really like the killer

[grave salmon]

Ts is so peak 🙏

[celest bluff]

one of my favorites design wise tbh

[fresh elbow]

Yea i thought the eyeballs and stuff looked cooler than crablegs

[gilded ore]

[celest bluff]

yes!

even if it doesnt win i hope they keep with non human heads like that its really cool

[minor pendant]

Both designs are so damn good

They really need to just keep both sets of cosmetics, have whichever wins the vote be available at chapter launch

Then whichever loses can be saved for a Rift Pass later next year

[grave salmon]

Gonna main the killer for this skin alone

[celest bluff]

me too

[grave salmon]

Love how it's described as "A vicious mockery of humanity." 🔥

[verbal wharf]

No way in hell that other one comes close to winning

[minor pendant]

If we ask politely enough can we get both BHVR?

[jade palm]

Okay, if Nun wins, that's fine, but I still want her backstory to be 'long lived survivor, trying to destroy the divine being and her method summoned Entity and took them both.'

Maybe it's a survival method, by being a follower and believer of the Judgement, she doesn't get judge while trying to find a way to destroy it behind its back. maybe the nun shows that she hiding from being judged...

I'm still not sure about her being a nun, it feels like Sable 2.0 vs Granny all over again, this time it's Taurie 2.0 vs badass Granny.

[grave salmon]

Which survivor skin did y'all vote on?

[astral plinth]

nun

[celest bluff]

i voted for 2

[tough terrace]

nun

[indigo pumice]

I voted for 2. I dislike the flip-flops in the first.

[jade palm]

2 for me

[celest bluff]

though im happy with both i just like the rougher look

[minor pendant]

Both are good, still haven’t decided which I’m voting on

[frigid swan]

1 cuz 2 looks boring

[finite plume]

All this aura for it to be a B tier killer in a year

[jade palm]

if you want another version of Taurie, pick 1

[echo folio]

Same one you did

[verbal wharf]

who knows maybe the nurse will finally have competition after 10 years

[grave salmon]

Anyone worried that if 1 wins it might be linked?

[grave salmon]

B tier is fine tbh as long as its not C tier or lower

[minor pendant]

I like how you can perceive the cosmetics as “Before” and “After” the killer destroyed her world. One being her uniform in worship of the divine being, second being her after surviving the “apocalypse”

[cursive compass]

I kinda want both tbh

[strong stratus]

We need alucard Hellsing skin to slucsrd Castlevania

[gilded ore]

[echo folio]

That's always a risk but not in our hands if it does become linked. It's usually linked if it goes above and beyond since they for one reason or another would have issues mix and matching

[jade palm]

I'm seeing both as 'after' unfortunately

[indigo abyss]

https://tenor.com/view/family-guy-who-cares-gif-11790196261333225865

[verbal wharf]

I think a divine angel killer should at the very least be a tier

[hard yacht]

Is this vote for additional skin or standard look of them?

[gilded ore]

Cosmetic!

[echo folio]

Additional

[grave salmon]

I do think its kinda pointless to offer us one of each instead of just giving them both. Maybe there will be a second vote after this one

[indigo abyss]

Both skins require both skins to be made which is not always possible to be done simultaneously

[jade palm]

I do have a feeling that the cosmetics will affect their backstories.

[ruby ocean]

I picked the second one

[finite plume]

It was a joke you CHUD

[echo folio]

Think like how this isn't kwon's default outfit but it released the same day he did. This is what we are voting for the killer and survivor, an additional look

[minor pendant]

Both cosmetic choices are absolutely fantastic this time around!

just wanted to say thank you to the devs for cooking so hard and making it so hard to choose which to vote for!

[grave salmon]

Which key art did y'all vote for?

[indigo abyss]

Well it wasn’t funny then

[astral plinth]

i dont think i'll ever use Aurora but that nun skin just hits harder...

[ruby ocean]

First

[noble gazelle]

The first one

[grave salmon]

Killer skin was not hard for me 🔥

[astral plinth]

third

[echo folio]

First one

[final yew]

what are we voting on next time?

[minor pendant]

Third

[final yew]

how many votes we got left? 1 or 2

[indigo abyss]

2 that we know of

[final yew]

okay thank youu

[grave salmon]

All the designs are legit so good i'm gonna be really sad to see 2 of them go

[echo folio]

Facts but two win at the very least

[minor pendant]

So they moved up the key art to this vote

[echo folio]

Correct

[minor pendant]

Really think they need to save whichever loses for a future release, either shop or rift pass

[grave salmon]

How is the killer addons gonna work? Theres a lot of addons lmao

[granite cliff]

I kinda like the nun one but I went w the other bc it’s more rough for the fog

[indigo abyss]

I thought we’d be voting on the icons

[echo folio]

We choose twenty addons out of 40.. jk

[grave salmon]

Even if it is addon icons thats still a lot to vote on

[indigo abyss]

Sure

[jade palm]

maybe the addons will be themed

[echo folio]

It is exciting

[clever tide]

And of course, a Nun Vs an Angel is deliciously ironic.

[minor pendant]

Probably why they moved up key art vote, since there’s gonna be a lot to vote for next time

[echo folio]

Nun vs the viscuous mockery of humanity

[lunar light]

that too!

[fading storm]

if you dont vote the viscious mockery of humanity for judgment im telling them you've sinned

[ruby ocean]

ngl I'm still disappointed about them making the sin stuff essentially the same as Nemesis in the prototype anyway hopefully it gets changed

[indigo abyss]

It’s still in the works

[astral plinth]

what's coming next

[fading storm]

i like both aurora skin concepts but the nun wins for me

[indigo abyss]

We’re like half a year before the chapter comes out, potentially longer

[verbal wharf]

I wonder how the "near perfect aura reading" perk is gonna work, can't wait to run it on nurse and artist

[fading storm]

also which key art are we feelin'

[molten basin]

Which Killer Skin did yall vote for?

[grave salmon]

I'm still so sad that boon perk that disabled gen regression won 🥀

[verbal wharf]

The one that didn't look like a recolor of the original design

[grave salmon]

I voted this

[grave salmon]

PEAAAAKKKKK

[molten basin]

Same

Like that is the type of Divine horror I wanted to see from this Killer

[sacred bane]

idk to me that steps more away from divine

[grave salmon]

How?

[tough terrace]

ok? its a skin, not the base cosmetic

[grave salmon]

This

[tough terrace]

i think they are allowed to stray away from divine for the skins lul

[echo folio]

Couldn't agree enough

[sacred bane]

i can have an opinion though

[tough terrace]

yes, you can, but you responded to him as though that's the reason he shouldn't vote for it

[desert viper]

We are already having a "divine" design with the base cosmetic

[sacred bane]

"to me"

[indigo abyss]

“The Destruction of Aurora”

[gloomy fjord]

Guys which killer should i vote , i love both and idk what to do

[eternal wren]

The only right option

[eternal wren]

The red one

[desert viper]

For me, it looks too similar to the base design compared to the other option

[echo folio]

Feels like the rejected mori got love with this artwork

[astral plinth]

I voted the other one but now I'm lowkey hoping this one wins because I prefer the feathered wings ngl 😭

[indigo abyss]

Nature’s Mockery

[gloomy fjord]

They are both so amazing , if someone gives me a good reason to vote fir one ill do it

[indigo abyss]

This one’s more unique

[gloomy fjord]

True

[desert viper]

That was my line of thought as well

[gloomy fjord]

But the other is more detailed

[tough terrace]

i honestly just wish they would add both

[eternal wren]

I think the first ones cool but the whole killer is supposed to be a divine and holy like, the other one is too like dark and it kinda gives fallen angel but I feel like that should be a later cosmetic and the more angelic one is more fitting

[echo folio]

As much as the default option is more grotesque and shocking this is more in line of a being that belongs outside our reality.

[desert viper]

They probably will, but one of them will come first

[indigo abyss]

We’ll probably get both eventually. Why would they just scarp a ready concept

[grave salmon]

Yeah i imagine its just "Which would you rather have at launch?"

[eternal wren]

The red one fits more with the angelic deity trope, and the bright colors will go good with the abilities and such

[plain copper]

IT IS SO FUCKING GOOD

[indigo abyss]

Dredge’s skeletal mass skin is literally one of its original concepts

[plain copper]

HOLY HR GIGER

[calm rain]

I’m back-

[grave salmon]

I KNOWWW RIGHT

[echo folio]

I cannot stop looking at the mockery option for killer. It's so good

[desert viper]

Is this the last grimoire?

[grave salmon]

No

[echo folio]

two more votes at the very least

[gloomy fjord]

I dont think so

[topaz leaf]

I love the head area of the second one but prefer the rest of the body and wings of the red one

[calm rain]

Me doin Eldridge horror skin :3

[desert viper]

I wonder why they'll include in the next one(s)

[topaz leaf]

Actually more like just ""legs"" and wings

[echo folio]

Just looking at the killer like "We are going to do horrible and good things together"

[grave salmon]

Addons and perk icons

[gloomy fjord]

Ok so i think i know which one to vote

[plain copper]

God, it is so creative an unique, Nature's Mockery feels like this ACTUAL GOD. the hands which pray, THE SUFFERING ON DISPLAY.!!! AND THAT HEAD!!! THEY LOOK LIKE SOMETHING STARIUGHT OUT OF TRENCH CRUSADE!!!

[desert viper]

Addons I can see, but perk icons seems like something not so important

[plain copper]

PLEASE PELASE PLEASE VOTE FOR NATURE'S MOCKERY

[echo folio]

How can you see the addon vote when that is 20 votes

[plain copper]

It's the most unique look a killer has ever had

[grave salmon]

I already have 🗣️

[eternal wren]

For me the red one is just so perfect and beautiful, this could be one of the prettiest killers in the game and the luxurious creature just gives that angelic horror ive wanted, i need need need and although this killers gender can flip flop between skins i really want a feminine holy skin

[grave salmon]

Importance doesnt matter. We vote on EVERYTHING

[desert viper]

What?

[indigo abyss]

Khines you do realise I called it nature’s mockery just as a reference to Gemini Home Entertainment

[echo folio]

A killer has 20 addons, so we have a huge vote next

[plain copper]

I like the other one for color reasons, but it feels just like a basic color swap. NATURE"S MOCKERY IS A TOTAL REIMAGINING AND I ADORE IT

[eternal wren]

I feel like the other concept looks too much like a dredge vecna mix, if were leaning into the angelic horror we need to go all the way and vote this one because its on theme!!!

[gloomy fjord]

Just did

[verbal wharf]

That one looks too similar to the original design, it could be a blue skin

[echo folio]

Thank you for not sinning

[desert viper]

Definitely not all addons. Just ultra-rare ones I would say

[eternal wren]

The gold one will look 10x better with the abilities though

[plain copper]

I really really like Nature's Mockery... I'm not kidding when I say it would be the most used skin if it released

[desert viper]

Yeah

[grave salmon]

The real answer is we should get both

[eternal wren]

Reallll

[desert viper]

We'll be getting both eventually

[echo folio]

I can easily see it being the next Were-Elk or Mina in terms of people wearing it

[grave salmon]

I know i'll be wearing it

[echo folio]

I for sure would be wearing it

[gloomy fjord]

It was hard to decide which one to vote but , if one is coming later(probably) i think Nature mockery looks very different than the base design maybe making them as a legendary skin but the other one look like a regular epic skin for the base design , both are awesome but , Nature mockery has my vote.

[plain copper]

I feel like the hands in Nature's mockery are attempting to either contain, or open up the blinding light that goes down the center. it feels like an Elder God

[gilded ore]

[echo folio]

This killer could be older than the entity~

[gloomy fjord]

True

[gilded ore]

What you guys thinkin' about the choices?

[desert viper]

Maybe the entity's sibling

[echo folio]

We love it! Thank the art team for us please

[torpid coral]

I love the more androgynous feeling to the killers second option

[gloomy fjord]

They are all very well made and detailed , i love them :3

[gilded ore]

Oh my gosh, I totally will!

[calm rain]

Love em

=)

[indigo abyss]

They deviate from the original concept by making it less human and it’s great

[gloomy fjord]

The art team did a very good job tbh

[gaunt dawn]

Oh my god. Its beautiful

[indigo abyss]

Wish some tweaks were done to the base form

[gilded ore]

Ooh so good to hear!

[eternal wren]

Im gonna be honest im completely biased and I mainly want this one because i wanted this angelic killer to be a woman sooooo bad that I literally need this skin

[gilded ore]

Tell them tomorrow! 😉

[eternal wren]

Literallyyyyy

[calm rain]

Wonder how many people will vote for Nun XD

[gloomy fjord]

Does the other one even have a gender?

[echo folio]

I just hope the chat doesn't spam irrelevant things while we discuss the grimoire tomorrow

[eternal wren]

I need the nub

[eternal wren]

Its masculine

[tropic willow]

The default is female tf you mean. Let us that want it to be androgynous get a skin

[plain copper]

I sort of disagree, just because divinity can come in many forms. The base design covers a more “angel” look, which all the alt colors and outfits would lean into. nature’s mockery is an alternative look at divinity, closer to what The Entity is

[gaunt dawn]

You guys cooked!

[gilded ore]

[gloomy fjord]

Heh, i will 😜☺️

[gaunt dawn]

I love both of the killer skins

[plain copper]

I wish we could get both

[gaunt dawn]

I hope we get lots of cosmetics for this killer on the future

[calm rain]

Indeed they did,

We are all truly blessed by the artists divinity

[gloomy fjord]

Theres a chance one will come later

[eternal wren]

Yeah and I get that but i like the design of the cosmetic so much better, im not completely against the other option but because I stressed so hard about this angelic killer being a woman I really want a the red skin because thats like exactly what I wanted from this killer

[gilded ore]

I do too!

[wanton snow]

What’s the survivor cosmetic ?

[tropic willow]

I like the lther one better. I only like the legs on the one you posted

[gaunt dawn]

Mad max vs nu

[calm rain]

Praise the artist!

[eternal wren]

It will probably depend on how much they're played but I feel like skins for this killer will be rare because of how hard they're designed

[gaunt dawn]

Mad max vs nun. Im going nun personally

[wanton snow]

Omg I love them both

[pulsar pasture]

Making the old lady a nun... how boring

[calm rain]

Agree

[wanton snow]

Nun is a need though

[calm rain]

I do wonder if the dev team will vote?

[gaunt dawn]

God please let taurie be part of this

[eternal wren]

No literally its an angelic chapter let's go all in

[gloomy fjord]

Im voting the nun , it looks very unique and cool, i want to be a nun ingame and loop killers 😭

[eternal wren]

Pleeeaasseeeee

[gilded ore]

That would be a sight!

[tropic willow]

I want this one cause it looks like a fallen angel and it has a non human head which is the main thing i wanted for the killer

[wanton snow]

The nun is gonna be so cool in game

[echo folio]

I wonder what the M means

[gloomy fjord]

🔝🔝

[calm rain]

Nun and this would be DOPE

[wanton snow]

And I lowk want the other killer cosmetic I need the killer to be feminine

[gaunt dawn]

Both of them are honestly fantastic skins. I hope the devs eventually consider adding both eventually

[gloomy fjord]

Frfr that are my votes

[calm rain]

Hell yeah brother

[eternal wren]

You get it!!! I need the beautiful angelic trope

[echo folio]

If it was roman numerals it would be 1,000

[gaunt dawn]

I wish we could have it all!

[wanton snow]

The mori is gonna be so freaking awesome

[calm rain]

Yeah

[eternal wren]

Need this as a killer (I hope this gif is allowed)

[gilded ore]

https://giphy.com/gifs/blakelivelyfan-everything-blake-lively-i-need-NQr00IHTXrigPobSeb

[calm rain]

For reall

[tropic willow]

These were my votes

[wanton snow]

It will all most likely be out just the winner will be out on release

[eternal wren]

On second thought ill try to find a better gif

[wanton snow]

The two I’m NOT voting for lmao

[echo folio]

I thought about using Galeem for Smash Bros Ultimate

[eternal wren]

https://tenor.com/view/angel-angel-statue-angel-multiple-wings-standing-angel-gif-12117763

[gilded ore]

is that a character of something?

[gaunt dawn]

I made a promise I'd pick the more visceral option because of the people who felt like they missed out

[eternal wren]

I freaking LOVEEE galeem

[calm rain]

Probs from berserker I would assume

[tropic willow]

Im not a fan of nuns tbh. And i wanna use the hair that one has. And that Angel looks a lot better imo

[gaunt dawn]

Devilman crybaby. Its a tear jerker and existential horror kinda

[gilded ore]

https://discord.gg/deadbydaylight?event=1491830596840718588
Did you guys click interested yet? 🙂

[gilded ore]

Not familiar!

[calm rain]

Good

[gilded ore]

Oh my!

[echo folio]

I did! I am excited

[gilded ore]

SUPER EXCITED!

[gaunt dawn]

Its really messed up though like elfen lied

Worth a watch imo

[gilded ore]

Oh Gosh I watched aaaaaaagges ago

[calm rain]

I need people to question IF the other silhouettes will be legendary skins

[echo folio]

The music of this grimoire I look forward to voting for next month

[gaunt dawn]

I really do reccomend devilman crybaby

[wanton snow]

I hope we get another grimoire

[gaunt dawn]

In the future, yeah this was a lot of fun and honestly there was minimal argument

[wanton snow]

When will it even release..?

[echo folio]

I do too, one grimoire every off year or so would make me happy

[gaunt dawn]

Definitely went smoother than Minecraft mob votes lol

[echo folio]

Much more in depth too

[gaunt dawn]

Yeah big kudos there

[gloomy fjord]

Fr fr

[marble elbow]

For real

[calm rain]

Helll yeah

[echo folio]

I voted those too!

[marble elbow]

The first design survivor would be tuff if not for this bandana😓🤞

[tropic willow]

Like how most the time we vote the same lol

[calm rain]

We are a hive mind fr

[echo folio]

It'll most likely end when the killer is in our hands one day playable and we play Judgment differently

[calm rain]

OoOoOoOoOoO

[naive sonnet]

I agree! These designs are indeed the best!

[echo folio]

I can already see a challenge for the killer for me personally. Can I get every survivor into exile once before they escape

[gaunt dawn]

I wish I remembered who last voting round was upset the more spider and visceral one didn't win. I want to hear what they think about this skin

[echo folio]

Or the people that cried about the other mori not winning and now the chapter art has a reference of it again

[gloomy fjord]

Guys , do you think we will be able to choose the perks? It would be peak

[tropic willow]

Probably thinking of me

[gaunt dawn]

I want to extend a branch.

[gaunt dawn]

And you like this skin?

The male one

[tropic willow]

I like the one with the non human head yes

[gaunt dawn]

I wish you luck you got my vote

[tropic willow]

Thought would of looked better if it was made of corpses imo

[echo folio]

It's back

[calm rain]

=)

[gloomy fjord]

I chosed that one

It would look amazing with nature mockery

[echo folio]

That's fair.. I chose this

[gloomy fjord]

Thats amazing too!

[gaunt dawn]

I chose that as well. But skin wise I picked the male one

[gloomy fjord]

Honestly all are amazing

[calm rain]

Same

[echo folio]

Yeah the male / androgenous form I voted too

Mockery of humanity, peak art

[calm rain]

Okay… what’s the next one?

[echo folio]

next vote?

[calm rain]

Yes

[echo folio]

Killer power icon, Killer Addons, Killer perk icons, Survivor perk icons all April 23rd

[winged comet]

Hey, so what're the opinions on the survivor outfits?

[marsh pendant]

same

[calm rain]

Ah

[calm rain]

Nun all the way for me

[gloomy fjord]

I swear if peoplw choose the strongest perks instead of the cooler ones

[marsh pendant]

nun outfit is goated

[echo folio]

I mean we already voted on the effects now we are just picking how they look

[winged comet]

That's already decided, I think

[gloomy fjord]

Agree , imagine a nun looping for 5 gen

[calm rain]

Yep…

[calm rain]

Already happened

[marsh pendant]

she prayed the onyro away and eveyone got the 4 out

[tropic willow]

Thats the one im voting but it keeps crashing on that votr

[gloomy fjord]

LOL

[marsh pendant]

i thought that was just perk icons and names

i forgot is there was desc too

[calm rain]

Perks already chosen

[tropic willow]

I wouldnt mind the nun winning i just like the hair on the other outfit

[gloomy fjord]

Tbh idk

[gaunt dawn]

Its ultimately going to be ok. There are a thousand million perks in this game

[calm rain]

We jus doin icon’s

[tropic willow]

Also it fits the apocalypse theme

[echo folio]

I hope it lets you vote soon without further issues

[gloomy fjord]

Both are good

[gaunt dawn]

Im voting nun for sure

[gloomy fjord]

Same

[calm rain]

Yeppers

[echo folio]

I know, the mockery totally fits the Apocalypse

[gloomy fjord]

Real

[tropic willow]

It just let me i just tried again

[gaunt dawn]

@gloomy fjord cool pomni pfp btw

[echo folio]

Good job!~

[marsh pendant]

ughhhh i like both killer designs i had a hard time choosing

[gloomy fjord]

[calm rain]

We got a joker here

[gloomy fjord]

POMNI-!?

[dull flame]

what did yall vote? i like whats going on with the head/upper torso of the second, but i like the first legs better

[echo folio]

is that pomni I thought it was The Prototype from Poppy Playtime

[dull flame]

its just final form pomni

[gloomy fjord]

2 ,looks very cool and uhhh idk

[echo folio]

Abstracted Pomni

[gloomy fjord]

It is!!

[tropic willow]

WAIT A SECOND!!! Why wasnt there a weapon cosmetic vote too

[calm rain]

Right is right

[echo folio]

We did that already

[gloomy fjord]

There was

[empty vessel]

Yall BETTER vote that nun outfit

[echo folio]

The weapon is not in our control anymore

[tropic willow]

No we voted FOR the weapon type not for a skin of it

[calm rain]

Shhhhhhhhhhhhhhhh

[echo folio]

I think the devs are leaving the team some room to work around what wins

[tropic willow]

Is the weapon going to be stuck as that ugly magical school girl looking ass wand design

[dull flame]

i voted 3, i feel like the survivor should be more centered in the composition, and it just feels more like dbd keyart

[echo folio]

I think we will get a weapon themed after what cosmetic wins

[dull flame]

yea

[calm rain]

Uhhhhh

-# maybe?

[tropic willow]

I hope so. A spear made of corpse arms if the male one wins would look sick

[echo folio]

Neither look like it'll give me my stained glass look I wanted so I hope we get a bone or hand weapon for the androgenous cosmetic

[tropic willow]

Hate that they seem to skip some voting steps with this tbh like how we voted for 4 final survivor faces and didnt have input on making them get to that stage

[fast dove]

both the killer skins in the grimoire are SO COOL. have a hard time deciding on the dark one for edgy aesthetics or the red cloth one for religious imagry

[dull flame]

the first one looks more porcelain-y to me, thats why i said i prefer those legs over the second's

[tropic drum]

my god there is always one or two elements from the other design that i want on the opposite

like if they had the kind of armour, head and robe of the second design with the colour scheme, legs and wings of the first design? you’d have me sold without question

[tropic willow]

Same. I also wanted stained glass. Think we were always on the same page with that one

[echo folio]

And those four survivors had different traits each, some which conflicted with the votes in the grimoire we did so far

[dull flame]

red cloth looks like a nun, its interesting but i went with the second one lmao

[tough terrace]

omg yes a stained glass angel would be an amazing cosmetic

[echo folio]

Imagine how beautiful the wings would be

[tough terrace]

someone needs to do that for the cosmetic contest

[dull flame]

same here yea, the big heads and arms look weird but everything else is so cool

[tropic willow]

Imma make a design for next years community vote thats stained glass. I just hope mine can win this year. I couldnt submit last year cause it was for Sable and Unknown

[echo folio]

The Detective Unknown was so good though

[fast dove]

im going with the red one simply because we kinda already have the "black, inky dripping wings" aesthetic with the artist and her crows and stuff

but theyre both pretty great

[dull flame]

wow i forgot about the contests
do yall think this chapter will be out by then though? when was last year's again

[tropic willow]

Tbh the armor one so far was the only one i like every aspect of.

[echo folio]

I was gonna say they brought the bone armor asthetic back!

[tropic willow]

Wanna see the designs i did?

[dull flame]

yea me too
except them legs 😔

[echo folio]

Sure! Maybe drop those in #media?

[tropic willow]

I like those legs the most out of all the ones they showed

[dull flame]

damn

i thought the heads look silly, i prefer the faces of the first

omg is that a dbd reference

i like how the first's are also connected by some fleshy material

[tropic willow]

#media message

[viral escarp]

What key art did you guys choose? I'm still deciding, but #1 looks the best imo.

[dull flame]

i picked 3 cuz i like the survivor being more so in the center, and also the composition looks better from far

[tough terrace]

destroy the lich

good

anyways i voted for the first option, I like how its kind of staged

[echo folio]

I chose the one with the killer in center wings spread out

[topaz linden]

HOW DO WE CHOOSE?

ALL SO GOOD; I WANT IT ALL

[viral escarp]

I ultimately ended up choosing #1 solely because it showcases the killer's prowess the most.

[rotund nexus]

Nun outfit was fire

[viral escarp]

#dbd-announcements click "Here" in the most recent post

[topaz linden]

NO I MEAN HOW DO I CHOOSE JUST ONE

(it feels illegal)

[echo folio]

It feels that way but you must choose

[viral escarp]

I'm not sure what you mean. The voting ballot only allow you to pick one answer.

[topaz linden]

Why is the last page always broken? ;-;

[hoary crater]

Good choice. I picked the same.

[alpine hedge]

Do you guys think the first option will win?

[frail coral]

which killer design did yall pick?

[topaz linden]

Feels like a mismatch, but I voted for the angelic and rugged cosmetics

as much as we have a lack of old ladies showing feet

I went with the Sunlance Concept art

but for those of us who voted for gold and porcelain we got our second chance

[echo folio]

and for those that voted for the bone armor we have a second chance

[topaz linden]

Dang Gifs are illegal here

[worldly smelt]

I really like both killer cosmetics, cant we have both 🙁

[echo folio]

Also I may be seeing things, but did they add the hands of the head form?

[worldly smelt]

either way, voted the bone one and the rugged outfit, even if the nun is funny

[summer wolf]

I like the Nun outfit 👉🏻👈🏻

[indigo abyss]

You’re seeing things

[worldly smelt]

for key are I voted the last with the hand raised to the sky, mostly because I like the perspective

[calm rain]

Index

Indeed I mean

[worldly smelt]

makes it seem more imposing and regal

[echo folio]

Maybe but I clock four hands on each leg and 3 sets of hands on the body

[indigo abyss]

So?

[echo folio]

actually far more than 3

[worldly smelt]

it makes it seem more imposing and regal too, the perspective shows the power/rank difference between the angel and survivors very well

gives statue vibes with the hand raised to the light honestly

[topaz linden]

both angel cosmetics feel straight of a Soulsbourne game XD

[worldly smelt]

first key art is emotionless (and thus merciless), second is vindictive, and the third shows a sense of pride

[topaz linden]

I love the vision of the angel looking down on you

[echo folio]

looking forward to discussing more when we see the grimoire stream tomorrow

[worldly smelt]

theyre all great, and show the angel with very different personalities

[topaz linden]

all 3 key arts are real in my heart

[worldly smelt]

I voted the 3rd because it seems the most angelic to me, as in watch as I smite this sinner in all my holy righteousness

[echo folio]

They are all canon until we see the vote results.

[topaz linden]

is that the steppies one?

[worldly smelt]

the other thing I like with the 3rd is we see the entire survivor

[topaz linden]

okay yeah, it's the steppies one XD

[worldly smelt]

the one with the raised leg and arm to the light yes

[topaz linden]

still upset we didn't get the cool mori

[worldly smelt]

which mori was it I missed it

[topaz linden]

She pierces her legs through the survivor

[worldly smelt]

I kinda forgot who won

[indigo abyss]

Incinerating from inside

[topaz linden]

the one that won she just burns the survivor from the inside out 🥱

[grizzled owl]

say wallahi we’re all voting ts

[empty vessel]

No I think ur right I did not see no hands before 😭😭

[olive birch]

yes

[topaz linden]

it's probably on par with Wraith or Doctors moris for the most plain

[worldly smelt]

damn it, I wanted the other one

[worldly smelt]

plain yes, wraith... no

[grizzled owl]

the design looks sick

[worldly smelt]

wraith needs their mori redone so bad

[topaz linden]

so bad

[olive birch]

fr

[echo folio]

Add that to the list

[topaz linden]

same with Trapper

Trapper needs to be given his DBD Mobile mori as his base mori

[worldly smelt]

trapper at least has a visceral

[topaz linden]

true

[olive birch]

[worldly smelt]

I'm not huge on them but I get why they exist

[tropic willow]

Wish theyd just make Moris their own cosmetic type

[topaz linden]

I have a whole guide on how I'd rework trapper to keep him simple to play and learn but also raise his skill ceiling

[worldly smelt]

honestly, how does one makes wraith's mori more? I dunno how to make it better without making it similar to the other stealth killers who just appear behind the survivor

Can we slam the bell on their head and do the cartoon bucket thing 🙂

[topaz linden]

if you played IDV though, you'd recognize it very well XD

[echo folio]

Purchasing moris would be fun if they gave that kind of range to most of the originals

[topaz linden]

#GiveTrapperAChainhookForMobility

[tropic willow]

Dont make him a second ghoul

[topaz linden]

nah, it'd be more like a reverse wesker

[sage ermine]

I hope

DBD needs more brutal and gore moris

[topaz linden]

Hit obstacle: pull yourself forward.
Hit survivor: pull them backwards and give them stagger.

[worldly smelt]

so a deathslinger with a kaneki dash kinda?

[topaz linden]

and then instead of having to go around picking up traps you have a max of 3 charges, and you can place up to 10 on the map.

and they break on hit or when a survivor escapes them.

[worldly smelt]

i forget, whats trapper's speed tier?

[topaz linden]

4.4 iirc

4.6, it's 4.6

[worldly smelt]

wiki says 4.6

so we cant do that

I wonder if we could do something like when a survivor is trapped the trapper gets some haste? Kinda like that one twins rework that sucked

[topaz linden]

haha XD

[balmy meadow]

can we rename them from "The Judgment" to "The Judgement"

[topaz linden]

imagine how goofy it's gonna look if the bone armor angel wins with the holy exile XD

[worldly smelt]

I mean thats outfits in general

[tropic willow]

I still hate that exile design won

[worldly smelt]

Knight and His guards are incredibly mismatched in some outfits

and theres also the krasue's heads

[topaz linden]

true, wish they could be changed based on armor and weapon pieces XD

[worldly smelt]

srsly I hate that why cant they just keep the hair and not the face with a wierd smile

its so jarring, it just doesnt look right

[topaz linden]

Jailor linked to Helmet
Assassin linked to Sword
Big Guy linked to Armor

[worldly smelt]

I wonder if they could go back and give old outfits power vfx, knight has a lot of linked legendary and ascended otufits

[topaz linden]

for sure, I always wanted more guard skins X3c

we only got one reskin for Snug so far

Darkest Dungeon legendary when?

[echo folio]

Haven't heard of Darkest Dungeon in a while

[topaz linden]

I mean BHVR owns the rights now

haven't taken advantage of it yet though~

I'm wondering what's taking them so long

[echo swift]

I CANT EVEN VOTE IN THE FUCKING GRIMOIRE WITHOUT IT CONSTANTLY CRASHING! BHVR FIX YOUR WEBSITE FOR MERLIN'S BEARD SAKE

[low condor]

worked fine for me

[hallow remnant]

I kind of want to mix and match the design concepts tbh

[real hill]

Who wanna 1v1?

[tribal pendant]

I think it's a bit of a mistake to have the Discord Stage a whole day after voting opens but I understand that things may lay where they do sometimes

[sage ermine]

If the right body for the killer had won

But I guess everyone wanted a crab

[plain copper]

It would have been really cool, however: the crab design won because of how UNIQUE it is.

[sage ermine]

But you agree that this design is better though

[neon escarp]

this is aura

[rancid moss]

This skin option is incredible, the other one is just "Premium Edition"

I really hope it wins

[dull flame]

lmfao these people arent real

[dull flame]

exactly bro 😭

[nova crypt]

this one is really cool I like the colors here

[nova crypt]

true! three looks super good I love how the characters are placed, everything in three is so good. Number one was a close second for me but it just felt a little basic.

[dull flame]

i really like the head and torso, but i prefer the other one's legs
i picked this one

[neon escarp]

also iirc this is how it looks by default right?

[nova crypt]

yes, this is what won for the default

[neon escarp]

and this is the Mori?

[worldly smelt]

still hate the blue

[nova crypt]

blue just is used in a really strange way for me, clutters the pallate and feels out of place

[fickle scarab]

No thats the one that lost

[neon escarp]

fuck

[dull flame]

the judgement got whipped by nemesis lmao

[fickle scarab]

This is the default design.

[fast dove]

Reynauld outfit for Victorio would be sick, tho I’m struggling to think who would rock Dismas’s outfit the best…

[worldly smelt]

the blue works on that one, albeit I'd still prefer gold

[neon escarp]

people hate good designs

[worldly smelt]

I'm curious, for this outfit we're making will the outfit be in the rift or the shop?

[nova crypt]

I agree that the legs could've looked better but the white and purple just look so awesome I couldn't picture the other one being better at all

[fickle scarab]

Oh, he weapon is also the staff

[neon escarp]

ik

[worldly smelt]

its kinda staff and a spear honestly, the key art implies a pointed tip

[neon escarp]

i dont like how human it looks, i like the concept of "beyond human" this killer can give

[dull flame]

theres gonna be more too, this whole grimoire thing has been very hype ngl

[nova crypt]

I wished the mace would win, really disappointing that the staff won but at least it's not that bad, still a cool weapon

[dull flame]

hmmm agreeable

[worldly smelt]

eh, if we wanted that we needed the giant face, the current concept is better fitting for a "too perfect" uncanny valley feeling angel.

very gothic horror esque is our current direction, perfect outside, imperfect inside

[nova crypt]

chapter main music might be the hardest thing to vote on here, unless they mess it up really bad and there's only one clear winner

[worldly smelt]

what you dont want singu's chase music?

[nova crypt]

😭😭 never

[dull flame]

i think the staff makes more sense, the mace is more of a "rude" weapon, unfitting of an all powerful godly creature
something about it feels calm and organized even as a killer, which is why the third key art also fits better, the other two are too "rough"

im terrible at wording this stuff but hopefully yall get it

[worldly smelt]

my hope for the main music/chase music is a huntress treatment of sorts, it starts holy and light and airy but by the end becomes flawed and angry sounding.

[dull flame]

i was curious, theres no way we'll get the actual finished song, these things still get changes from the ptb

it might be like a snippet or just a melody demo

[nova crypt]

don't worry about the wording you're quite good at this actually!

as for the rest of your point, you're actually right this is very agreeable, you've changed my mind. thank you gabson

[dull flame]

oh wow thanks XD

[worldly smelt]

(for those who dont know, huntress's humming slowly gets more and more corrupted/angry sounding as the trial goes on)

[nova crypt]

probably like the first ten seconds or so?

[dull flame]

yea could be!

[worldly smelt]

What would yall think about the music being like church choir latin chanting?

or of similar idea anyway

[dull flame]

lmao chanting would actually be so cool
i think it should get more and more overwhelming the closer you are, not just louder but deeper and tenser like some impending doom

i wish plague had an unique terror radius

[worldly smelt]

killers tend to have multiple TRs

its in 3 rings by default I believe, though some older killers dont have this

[dull flame]

yea, it has different layers

[worldly smelt]

yup, 4 layers

[dull flame]

4th one is chase im guessing?

[worldly smelt]

far, near, close (normal), close (chase)

with 2 extras set aside for legion

[dull flame]

trickster also got some new tracks this last update haha

[nova crypt]

layer one could be church instruments, layer two could be instruments+choir, then layer three would be louder and harsher and finally chase would be faster and more tense

[dull flame]

yessshhh

[nova crypt]

or something idk just tar and feather me

[worldly smelt]

pipe organ

[nova crypt]

[worldly smelt]

also, chase should ditch the choir music and just be frenzied chanting

[nova crypt]

this would definitely be more interesting, absolutely

[worldly smelt]

with some support from minor instruments of course, you cant just have a single instrument obviously

actually I think the survivor themes might be 1 instrument? not killer tho

[white sinew]

What do you mean by prototype what was his power when nemi was a prototype ?

[worldly smelt]

the sin acted like the nemi infection

first hit sin, subsequent hits damage

[white sinew]

But nemi needs a buff cuz he is the ONLY 3 hit killer in game (in my head)

[worldly smelt]

eh...

[indigo abyss]

What are you on about bro

[worldly smelt]

theres quite a few

[white sinew]

How many 3 hit killers in game ?

[worldly smelt]

4 i think?

[indigo abyss]

Nemesis
Artist
Unknown
Krasue
First (kinda)

[worldly smelt]

Unknown, Nemi, Artist, Krasue

[worldly smelt]

also freddy... ish

[indigo abyss]

Freddy’s power doesn’t injure but yeah it’s also similar

Oh I mean yeah the pallets

[worldly smelt]

no it does

[white sinew]

But artist could DO a hit if he uses his power right, ı always thinked nemesis got powered down cuz his zombies

[worldly smelt]

if anything they went up, they used to only have 1 in the PTB I believe

[indigo abyss]

She still heavily relies on swarm hits

You can’t always do direct hits with crows

[white sinew]

On loops u can

[indigo abyss]

Not always

[ruby ocean]

A couple of streamers got access to a prototype build of the killer

[plain copper]

Anyways, the Nature’s Mockery design is really cool

[indigo abyss]

Artist’s bread and butter are still long distance/through wall shots

[indigo abyss]

You’re sticking with this name aren’t you

Not that I’m complaining

[white sinew]

İs there any videos of the nemesis prototype gameplay ?

[indigo abyss]

No

[ruby ocean]

Idk about nemesis but the grimoire killer does

[worldly smelt]

they mean the judgment not PTB nemesis

[indigo abyss]

The judgement is the only killer we get to see the prototype of

[indigo abyss]

Aside from like a small inside on Slinger’s development but that was A WHILE ago

[plain copper]

I think they both have merit. Me personally, the blind heads covering their eyes is my favorite part of the design

[plain copper]

Is this one not called nature’s Mockery?

[worldly smelt]

either way, nemesis is not the only 3 hit killer

[worldly smelt]

we dont have names for anything except perks

[indigo abyss]

That’s what I called it as a reference to gemini home entertainment

[plain copper]

OH LMAO

Me when I spread misinformation

[worldly smelt]

which perks won again? do we have those?

[indigo abyss]

Yeah I noted it like 3 hours ago😭

That’s where I got the idea

Nature’s Mockery is like an alien species from one analogue horror

[plain copper]

I just think of DnD from that wording

[indigo abyss]

The name does go hard as fuck you gotta give it that

[plain copper]

Alt names that may not be as good:
“Without Peer”
“Trial of Man”
or just some “King in Yellow” or Eldritch thing

Hands of God

[indigo abyss]

“Is it some kind of king in yellow?”

https://tenor.com/view/marvel-fan4stic-fantastic-four-the-thing-say-that-again-gif-9345984830195785978

[plain copper]

“It’s like he’s in some king of… YELLOWGRAVE”

[indigo abyss]

https://cdn.discordapp.com/attachments/1172611049598492734/1396417552040857630/IMG_6941.gif

[plain copper]

(I like without peer because it’s in reference to the lack, or shielding of eyes— as well as the above all nature in divinity)

[fast dove]

Avery and D3rlord3 chapter for DBD confirmed

[topaz linden]

I think I have him down for David

[tiny star]

Did somebody say yellow

[fast dove]

oh yeah that fits well

[gaunt dawn]

Admitingly if I didn't feel like I owed the ones that wanted a visceral design I would have picked porcelain

[gaunt dawn]

I picked 1

[tawdry thorn]

Is the dbd grimoire survivor supposed to be like Christian since there’s a nun outfit you can vote for or just spiritual seeker?

[tropic willow]

Technically neither. Just an arcane investigator if i remember correctly

[indigo abyss]

BHVR have said that they don’t want to do anything with real life religion

The chapter of course is inspired by religion, but not by any specific ones

[tawdry thorn]

Ohh ok

[tawdry thorn]

I thought it was specifically Christianity since it looks like a biblically-ish accurate angel or a fallen angel

[indigo abyss]

No no, we chose the divine killer and the devs just went from there

It does seem to be mostly inspired by Abrahamic religions though

[tawdry thorn]

Ohh ok kind of a relief cus I didn’t want there to be a Christian/angel killer would’ve been a little disrespectful on my part lol

[indigo abyss]

Checks out

[tawdry thorn]

Ahh ok

I wonder if they’ll ever give like canonical religions to characters in the game or say some are atheist etc

as just bio

[indigo abyss]

Very unlikely

I’d say the closest they might get to irl religions would be if they decided to make a Conjuring chapter

But that’s a license

[tawdry thorn]

Well Mikaela is a witch so I guess that slightly counts but not necessarily a belief system

[indigo abyss]

That’s definitely not anything religious lol

[tawdry thorn]

More cult-ish vibes in my opinion

[indigo abyss]

Not to mention that she isn’t an actual witch

That’s more of her style, she’s not a real deal

[tawdry thorn]

doesn’t she still do some sort of witch craft

[indigo abyss]

Not to my knowledge

[tawdry thorn]

I’ll probably just search it up later then

[indigo abyss]

As far as I know she’s basically a tiktok astrology girl

[tardy ravine]

I mean iirc most witch crafty stuff is extension of the entity (Hexes)

[indigo abyss]

Hexes were a thing in the real world too

Hag’s entire role is based on her using hexes to her own benefit

[tawdry thorn]

I believe vittorio had some type of religious thing in his backstory correct me if I’m wrong

Something with spiritual knowledge

[indigo abyss]

Not really

[tardy ravine]

I thought the lore was the hexes Hag used were something from the entity b4 taking her, unless im like msiremembering

[indigo abyss]

There’s a cult of the entity within dbd’s universe but that’s a made up religion

[indigo abyss]

I mean how we see them in game is purely post-entity thing

[tawdry thorn]

Ohh okay

[indigo abyss]

But before hag became a killer, hexes were basically sigils that brought luck

[tardy ravine]

also ?? Mithrix in dbd real

[indigo abyss]

A thing her grandmother taught her

But then her friend overused hexes and got karma stricken by a coffin

And when Lisa got kidnapped by the cannibals, she used hexes to escape at the cost of becoming what she is right now

[tawdry thorn]

Welp that means Quentin smith is the only possibly religious survivor then cus he’s portrayed as having faith in something cus he has a cross necklace in the movies

[indigo abyss]

Well, he doesn’t have anything in dbd

[tawdry thorn]

Wish they had more outfits for him but

I guess they don’t have a strong connection with the license

[indigo abyss]

They do not

[tardy ravine]

I think Alan Wake is religious 2

[indigo abyss]

But again it’s not that irl religions don’t exist in dbd’s universe at all, they’re just not brought up

[tawdry thorn]

yeah pretty much

I guess you can just infer on certain survivors/killers based on the time and place they live in like zarina and plague

[eager garnet]

hi everyone whats this about

[indigo abyss]

Hi

This is a channel dedicated to the grimoire

Which is our first community made dbd chapter

[gusty oasis]

Don’t click the link

Does the grimore crash on page 3 for anyone else? I am on IOS 26.3.1 (a) on an iPhone 17 pro max

[plain copper]

FIREE

[plain copper]

We are voting on cosmetics!

[plain copper]

Nah, it’s just religion in general, as far as I’m aware. That’s why crosses aren’t a thing at all

[sage ermine]

Imagine if the judgement had a female and male skin like Aestri Yazar and baermar

[tropic willow]

One of the voting options is a male and the default is female.

Hoping male wins so the killer is androgynous that and the male skin looks wicked

[tiny star]

I honestly dont view the grimmy killer as a gendered being even with its chosen designs

I just dont really see it. I can understand how people do see it though

[tawdry thorn]

I think it just takes inspiration but not generally supposed to be a specific religion since dead by daylight avoids that for respect and stuff

[calm rain]

Oof

[echo folio]

I might vote for the both male and female overlayed like Unknown option, but on the day of voting for voices I may be swayed to vote another option

[lavish niche]

tbh if they voices were actually overlaid instead of one skin having a female skin and one a male, tbh i feel like that would be cooler

[tiny star]

That would be cooler

[lavish niche]

yeah you get it

hell yeah

[winter bolt]

I thought base skin was already androgynous?

[tropic willow]

Not really

[tiny star]

I personally think so

[winter bolt]

Hm..I'll have to go back and look at it

Do you think they will do more chapters like this one?

[lavish niche]

it "is" but not definitely

[winter bolt]

Woah

Was that a femboy server? Weird

[shell lynx]

vote for nun

[north spindle]

of course

[shell lynx]

the other ones ugly ns

[echo folio]

Sadly I cannot vote for the nun

[north spindle]

right???

the nuns gaggy af

[tiny star]

I like them both. But... I had to vote for the wastelander look. I like the cape...

[lean willow]

now i can only see nemesis face on face legs

[shell lynx]

IKK ID LOOK SO CUNT WITH THE NUN SKIN

[shell lynx]

why..

i hope its not something about religion when its literally just a skin 🙄

OMGGG

[north spindle]

like omfg

like let me send my gifs ns...

[shell lynx]

waitt theyre messy cus i had a funny gif

[north spindle]

Right.

[shell lynx]

[topaz linden]

I have a whole list on my sticky notes somewhere; I'll have to look for it later

[sage mantle]

I voted for design 1 for killer since faceless is a cooler look

I think

[wanton cove]

Everytime I see the new killer

I can't get "Death of gods will" from Ultrakill out of my head

[alpine jackal]

#salvemotrembala

[sage ermine]

Imagine if the devs purposely made the killer material so ugly so we would want to buy the skins

I have no idea how that ugly neon material won from the other options

Any of those could’ve won

But everyone wanna be a neon spotlight that could be seen miles away

[fast dove]

we already have dredge for "flesh abomination" stuff, I for one am happy that the exalted is going for a more unique aesthetic

i for one think the white hair +gold strands + blue energy makes for a pretty combo

plus i very much doubt an angelic killer would care much about being stealthy regardless

[sacred bane]

cause it looks like its theme most likely

[sage ermine]

Eh

[tropic willow]

I voted for the 2nd and 3rd from those

[ripe trail]

gen who like the other one better than the nun

[forest mango]

The other skin blends in more with the environment on most maps, so you dont stick out and can hide better, maybe that's why some people are voting for it instead of the red nun skin

[ripe trail]

why not wear the original then

[forest mango]

True, i can't argue with that lol

I was just saying that's why i think people would vote for it, i see no other reason

[ripe trail]

no yeah i get it lol

[sharp radish]

I would love the bad bitch nun costume, the second one looks like something 10 of the other survivors have already and if the color is an issue just make the nun dress black like a real habit is

[indigo abyss]

https://gif.fxtwitter.com/tweet_video/HEx6ZVQawAA8ftQ.webp

Just because you are able to say something doesn’t mean you always have to

[sharp radish]

Elaborate girl because God forbid I want something that's not cyberpunk tech autobot fighter

[indigo abyss]

There were probably million of better ways to put it

[tropic willow]

The other fit looks nothing like what you just described

[sharp radish]

Ok looking back at it, definitely not cyberpunk. But you can go ahead and find how the second outfit is original and definitely something that can't be slightly replicated with another survivors outfits

[echo folio]

Nothing like that! I voted the other outfit already because it looked badass compared to the default outfit.

[calm ruin]

Ngl that grimoire killer can get it

[indigo abyss]

Say what now

[echo folio]

What

[leaden spruce]

This channel was probably not built for these conversations

[rancid moss]

Because piece by piece design was a bad idea. If they presented desings with shapes, colors & textures, already sketched out by ARTISTS we could make better decisions. Like, everyone sees how baller the left skin is, cause players did not interfere with its creation.

But, just by looking at those squares you would have no idea how it would turn out. I voted for Black mask & gold so im happy with the skin now. I hope it will be the BP skin, if not im gonna crash out. Cause im NOT playing with that default skin, no way xD

[hoary crater]

I'm grateful for the skins we currently vote on. I love both of them so even though I'm not a fan of the default design I'll have something to make my angel pretty ... pretty scary.

[quaint thistle]

Anyone else want to "change fate" to make the alt base.

[shell lynx]

Imo it looks basic and the nun is a new concept

[shell lynx]

RIGHTT

[sage ermine]

Exactly

[olive cedar]

why is it so hard to choose between the angel cosmetics

[sharp radish]

Im at home literally clocking my own tea and there's at least 3 characters soo far that proved my ass right about this. feng ming gets the closest in resemblance soo far

[indigo abyss]

What

[tacit jolt]

Same

This round’s tough for me

[raw breach]

yea both angel cosmetics look really good

hmmm idk im gonna go with the dark one. the scary one. cuz the royal gold look, as cool as it is, seems more similar to base than the other

for aurora (still think she shouldve been called grace) im going with the nun outfit

• religious chapter
• community doesnt choose the name with religious implications
• ???

idk ill get used to aurora eventually

[tacit jolt]

I do hope the cosmetics that don’t win get added in some way later

I might pick the human mimic one just because it’s more abstract which I like

[indigo abyss]

Aurora just sounds better idk what to tell you

[topaz linden]

Both of them

[topaz linden]

Because they're based on both of the best "what is the killer made of" options

It's a win win either way (and we're going to have to pay for it ;-;)

I lean towards the angelic gold and porcelain, but if the bone armor one wins I can't really complain

The design team is really locked in to giving us hard choices

Count your DAYS BHVR design team

They better slowly roll all the post silhouette grimoire options our way based on popularity

(I will probably buy them all)

[gilded ore]

Who, me?

[indigo abyss]

Hi! I always wondered, what’s the difference between community managers and community coordinators?

[gilded ore]

Ooh such a good questions. It's basically the same, but I am not a community manager, but coordinate a smaller bit, so in my case, this Discord 🙂

[indigo abyss]

So it’s a more specialised kind of cm?

[gilded ore]

Sorta? I work for the CM's! 🙂

[indigo abyss]

I see

[lament tapir]

Are the losing cosmetics saved for later releases potentially?

[swift geyser]

I was wondering: are those going to be the only skins for now?

[tough terrace]

im in a meeting rn so i cant join the stream, is there anything interesting said so far?

[valid roost]

Judgment has hints of cosmic horror and Aurora and Judgment are tied together

[tough terrace]

gotcha, other than that they have just been going over the skins?

[indigo abyss]

Definitely

They’ve said in the past that very little will go to waste

And concept art is like half the work done on a cosmetic

[valid roost]

PLEASE. MAKE THEM COME TO THE GAME THEY ARE SO GOOD

[olive cedar]

I picked the darkish one, it was a really hard decision

[astral plinth]

what have they said so far

[valid roost]

Why isnt weapons appearing for the judgment skins? Perhaps the losing weapons (Hammer and mace) are being considered for skins?

[lament tapir]

Will future cosmetics for Aurora and Judgement be voted on down the line? Or will cosmetics going forward just be made and released like usual?

[indigo abyss]

Probably not

[dull lodge]

Finaly i can text hereee

[valid roost]

I'd assume the latter alongside the first on the art contest when both Aurora and Judgement are available

[lament tapir]

A community art contest for a new Judgement and Aurora collection would be so cool

[jade palm]

They just confirmed that cosmetics will affect backstories

I repeat again... DON'T MAKE AURORA A NUN!

[alpine hedge]

who did everyone vote for?

[tough terrace]

purple skin, nun outfit, first key art

[valid roost]

Gives me creation of Adam vibes

[tough terrace]

man there are a lot of people begging for their licenses in the grimoire livestream. reminds me too much of twitter

[alpine hedge]

I voted for the second one in the killer outfit, I like the armor vibe it gives me elden ring vibes.

[pseudo blaze]

Something I've been meaning to ask is; are there any updates being made for the hopeless exile? I feel like it should be akin to pyramid heads cages since as what we've seen so far it makes it little to no sense to send someone to the Hopless Exile when you could just hook them instead and have them keep their sin.

You also sacrifice survivor urgency when sending a survivor to the hopeless exile since even the closest prayer alter can remove the survivor trapped within in.

[tough terrace]

we'll pry get an update on gameplay next week, since its an off-week between grimoire votes and that's the pattern they have followed so far

one week: grimoire voting next week: announce winners halfway through the week and later in the week show gameplay updates next day

[late grail]

What if it was like church choir music w LOTS of brass like French horn and trumpets to lean into the religious theme mixed w like an ethereal singing bowl kinda vibe
There's a lot of tubas in the game audio being used and I'm a new player so idk how often it's used ik it's to make it more anxiety inducing but its overplayed imo for judgement's chase music
Thoughts?

[cerulean pivot]

Maybe you answered this already but: Speaking of the Rift, will we get to also do the Core Lore and Rift lore for The Judgement and Aurora? Big lore guy over here

[late grail]

I kept asking this at the event but no one answered at bhvr

[late grail]

Might just b a perk thing
Or mayb they could make it into a boon perk or offering making it less likely to b sent to hopeless exile and have a higher chance of getting hooked instead

[idle charm]

Everyone, hope you managed to tune into our little chat, and have some of the voting options explained in a bit more detail!

[late grail]

What do u think about this idea for judgment's chase music
What if it was like church choir music w LOTS of brass like French horn and trumpets to lean into the religious theme mixed w like an ethereal singing bowl kinda vibe
There's a lot of tubas in the game audio being used and I'm a new player so idk how often it's used ik it's to make it more anxiety inducing but its overplayed imo for judgement's chase music

[indigo abyss]

We will be voting on the audio stuff in May

[late grail]

Tried asking in chat at the event but no one answered and I think it would b SUPER cool

[idle charm]

I can't answer questions like that i'm afraid, as there's voting to come

[indigo abyss]

Btw hi mandy!!!

[late grail]

O ok cool my bad

[idle charm]

[gilded ore]

I'd be terrified, to be honest. But we can't answer to that

[indigo abyss]

I wanted to ask, have dev updates been completely replaced by community streams? Last one we had was in August iirc

[late grail]

Just food for thought it would REALLY play into the theme w this chapter

[pseudo blaze]

I dont know if you guys can answer this but is there any short term changes coming to the hopeless exile?

[late grail]

Can't say
I'm a new player but mayb cause it's easier for everyone idk

[indigo abyss]

I mean that’s why I’m asking the person responsible for dev updates

Alongside other CMs

Wish Ryan was also here ngl

[idle charm]

for the time being yeah

[indigo abyss]

I miss them🥲

[idle charm]

I am the one responsible, as I am the team lead

So it's okay to ask me, but please, lets try to keep this related to Grimoire ❤️

[prime prawn]

will the other survivors / killer get skins for the chorus of sin?

[tough terrace]

will the judgment judge

[indigo abyss]

If so, will there be other votings after the one in May?

[idle charm]

I think May will be the end of the voting

[indigo abyss]

Makes sense

[gilded ore]

[indigo abyss]

I missed a big chunk of the stream, has anything been told about losing options appearing as outfits later?

[tough terrace]

it will be sad to see it end. but, I look forward to the grimoire happening again sometime in the future!

[late grail]

Might b a select few
Would b cool if dracula got one but he kinda already fits the gothic vibe so it might not happen for him or plague since she's a priestess
Wesker though as like a twisted pastor and having his robes being taken over by urobouros however u spell that
That could b sick

[late grail]

What day in May if u mind me asking if uk

[idle charm]

i don't have that yet I'm afraid, but probably earlier in the month rather than later

[indigo abyss]

Oh and another thing. During the grimoire AMA the team was asked if they’d consider making the killer more gender neutral looking.

Is that something that the team is still looking into?

[indigo abyss]

14th of May

[late grail]

Makes sense
When will the chapter release it's gonna b super cool w what I saw and heard so far especially w some of the beta testing w the attacks and hopeless exile
What do u think about mayb having a boon perk or offering where it makes it less likely for survivors to go to hopeless exile and you get hooked instead was tlking about this in chat someone asked something about hooking and exile and that's the idea I responded w what do u think
Would it have to b nerfed at some point if u did this

[late grail]

Thx

[indigo abyss]

Subject to change, obviously

[muted estuary]

Why is the new killer so stupid looking?

Quad pedal angel

[indigo abyss]

That’s what people voted for

So the majority didn’t consider it to be stupid looking

[plain copper]

I really like the second design with the OLD GOD look.

[indigo abyss]

I called it “Nature’s Mockery”

[calm rain]

Reminds me of something like scp

Also- are there winners already?

[muted estuary]

It looks so stupid compared to the killers we have

[calm rain]

Heretic.

[indigo abyss]

What is that supposed to mean

[calm rain]

-# and now I wait for

-# “Not yet Rico”

[tough terrace]

guys dont engage with them, they're obviously baiting

[rotund hill]

So now which one won

[calm rain]

Hmmm.. okie

-# slowly puts away switch blade

[calm rain]

No clue… still waiting-

[rotund hill]

Alright thanks

[tough terrace]

we dont usually find out until the wednesday after

[calm rain]

Ah

Wha—

EEEEEHHHHHH??????

[muted estuary]

I mean if youre saying the new killer is "good", im just going to have to ignore it. Theres nothing appealing about this killer, nor does it fit any parameter that DBD is missing

[tough terrace]

ok

[muted estuary]

This killers going right into the filter liat

[gaunt dawn]

Did I miss it?

[gaunt dawn]

To be fair. I saw the legs more like pillars and some people weren't looking at the legs at all

@gilded ore is the q and a over?

[ocean jewel]

Yo what is grimoire

[tranquil iris]

It’s a discussion

[calm rain]

About a killer that we the people have made

So far to catch people up to speed. We voted for a Devine feminine killer that can send people into a pocket dimension with a beam

[vivid willow]

Sound s nice

Maybe I will buy it

[calm rain]

Indeed. Praise the judgment. And yes that’s the name of it

[vivid willow]

But not to op

Like no one can help you

[calm rain]

It’s still being made and we’ve seen so far it’s beta.. it’s still being worked on

Perks are questionable buuut should be fine…

[vivid willow]

Maybe like springtrap trap mid perk good in game

[calm rain]

If your super curious I suggest looking at the media and look at the far past of what were the votes and stuff.. I do however have beef with one survivor perk

[fickle scarab]

whatd I miss from the grimoire thing

[calm rain]

We’re voting for skins

And one other thing.

[indigo abyss]

Key art

[fickle scarab]

Nothing new from the stream?

[calm rain]

I didn’t see the stream

Idk who has at this point

[cerulean light]

I really want the goldish red cosmetic for the new killer

[calm rain]

I hope the nun wins lol

[split meadow]

I could take or leave either of the surivor cosmetics, but that red and white killer cosmet 😍

[calm rain]

I personally like the other-

Getting real scp vibes and I love IT

-# if only IT could be in the game 😔

[split meadow]

It IS cool and I would get both

[calm rain]

W

[viral pebble]

yo parental guidance is actually so op why do ppl say its bad

you just hit a pallet stun and then blind with a flashy and just end the chase

and if hes still chasing you just pop a locker with head on

[young girder]

It sees us and it's laughing

[astral plinth]

probs cause it's just 7 seconds

[viral pebble]

thats still enough tho

[astral plinth]

I used to pair it with head on and flashbang

[viral pebble]

i pair it with head on, ds and a flashlight

[finite plume]

So I have not been following this that much, is the Angel killer's power just a fuck off beam they can control

[indigo abyss]

Kinda

They spawn a pillar of light that moves in the direction you drag it in with your camera

And after a short delay they can launch it in whatever direction it was moving at increased speed

And there’s also the whole exile thing which replaces regular hooking

[finite plume]

that sounds kinda broken but fun

[indigo abyss]

We’ve already seen the gameplay and it seems reasonable

But obviously it’s still months away from release

[finite plume]

I've seen Hens play the prototype, definitely looks like something with a high skill ceiling

[indigo abyss]

Yeah

[nova nebula]

i love the idea of the cage from pyramid head it's so badass that they're adding that to another killer

[echo swift]

chat i missed the grimoire stage event what did they show and talked about can someone update me

[indigo abyss]

-# nothing too important

[flat bison]

Just talked aboot the stuff on the grimoire voting and all that
Maybe Hens has a vod up

[echo swift]

i don't know who that is

[echo swift]

i need to know everything. can u tell me it all

[finite plume]

The Grimoire is a recurring community-driven event in Dead by Daylight where players vote to co-create a new Killer and Survivor, culminating in Chapter 41: Chorus of Sin featuring the killer The Judgment and the survivor Aurora. The event is structured into three phases, with the current Phase 3 scheduled to run from April 9, 2026, to May 14, 2026, offering the final votes on character design, names, and audio assets.

Phase 3 focuses on the finalization of the characters, with specific voting windows for:

April 23, 2026: Votes for the chapter's key art concept, perk icons for both characters, the killer's power icon, and add-ons.
May 14, 2026: Votes for the killer and survivor's voiceovers and the chapter's main music.

[indigo abyss]

Chapter 41?

[finite plume]

DLCs

[indigo abyss]

I know but we can’t know which one it’ll be

All we know is that it’s not the anniversary one

[finite plume]

ogey

[calm rain]

Anniversary is likely Jason or something random like bendy

[echo swift]

@gilded ore can you guys fix the site it keeps crashing

[indigo abyss]

I don’t think that’s something within the reach of a community coordinator…

[topaz linden]

I saw you pop up in the online crew list; couldn't resist XD

[topaz linden]

Flagellant - David King
Shieldbreaker - Haddie Kaur
Vestal - Mikaela Reid
Plague Doctor - The Doctor
Occultist - Vittorio Toscano
Musketeer - Kate Denson
Man at Arms - Jonah Vasquez
Leper - The Plague
Jester - The Legion
Houndmaster - The Houndmaster (Visceral)
Highwayman - Dwight Fairfield
Hellion - Meg Thomas
Grave Robber - Nea Karlsson
Crusader - The Knight
Bounty Hunter - The Huntress
Arbalest - Elodie Rakoto
Antiquarian - Zarina Kassir
Abomination - The Oni
Duelist - Claudette Morel
Runaway - Jane Romero

I feel like Highwayman fits David aesthetically, but Flagellant fits his perks XD

[fast dove]

If I saw the Antiquarian in the realm I would leave her on hook every time ||double dealing backstabber||

but also gosh dang this is an super impressively concise list! Reynauld and Dismas (crusader and highwayman) are probs the ones most likely to get skins if they were to ever do such a collab, but dang is it nice to wonder what could be

Am slightly surprised that Jester and Legion are paired, but I suppose they both have a similar mechanics, Jester’s “working up to a strong grand finale move gameplay” kinda mirrors Legions “5th hit instadown”

[topaz linden]

has Reynauld's face ever revealed?

[fast dove]

outside of fanart I doubt it

[topaz linden]

Knight it is then XD

[topaz linden]

is there lore? XD I only ever played Butcher's Circus

[fast dove]

Oh I mostly ignored that mode. Essentially she’s a character focused on money, in the first game she’s not great combat wise but increases the valuable loot you can find and carry, but in the second game she gets bought out by the bad guys and is an antagonist

[topaz linden]

oh damn XD

[fast dove]

yeah it’s kinda funny

[topaz linden]

I'd probably put Sable as Graverobber now, since iirc she wasn't out when I made the list XD

[fast dove]

For other story stuff The crusader wasn’t in the second game’s roster for the longest time, people took that to mean that the crusader canonically died in the first game ||(rip Reynauld x Dismas yaoi)||

[topaz linden]

nvm, I think someone in chat said "not Sable please"

and I changed it to Nea XD

[fast dove]

oh dang sable as graverobber would be a fire fit, plus graverobber’s self serving attitude kinda fits people’s perception of sables

[topaz linden]

Taurie would also work then?

[fast dove]

Yeah that sounds pretty nice

[topaz linden]

Jester Legion though would go soooooooooooooooooo hard