#grimoire-discussion

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final badger
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fire

tropic willow
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Probably just dont know how to implement them more than not wanting to

fickle scarab
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It makes sense that they would keep things in mind for future application or new ideas.

tropic willow
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They could just do what they did with the newest chapter tbh. Like maybe use that galaxy theme as a map and add the blue haired girl as another survivor or something

fickle scarab
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Like incorporating the faces into the final design. Or exploring the design space of a losing perk option.

tropic willow
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The perks i really hope they work into a future chapter all of them were solid tbh

echo folio
tropic willow
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But yeah can we discuss what everyone thinks theyll add for this next vote? For the cosmetics. Like i wanna know how its different than the appearance votes

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Also kinda hope we’ll get blood moon cosmetics for Judgement and Aurora next year’s event

echo folio
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This could be that but for the survivor and killer of Chorus of Sin

raven robin
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Yall really voted for that fuckin boon 😭

potent tinsel
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1 of the 6 perks I voted for won... I feel like most of the perks that won are the more boring of the pairs.

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Got everything else I voted for in this phase tho atleast.

violet geode
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I was really hoping for 8-3: Disintegration Loop to win but oh well this one is pretty too

violet geode
gaunt dawn
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So let me get this straight. Players voted on giving survivor haste and not giving killer haste

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Yet that was an incredibly close one for vigilance

fast dove
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I love the blue banishment skybox, so happy it won

gaunt dawn
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Yeah and Im sure killers will get more haste eventually. At least killers will get something that limits survivor haste but its a hex perk

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Im feeling that... maybe some people voted with having a specific sided advantage in mind

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I dont think killers need anymore aura perk..... unless this somehow counters elusive

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Maybe thats what near perfect means

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Im going to laugh if people voted against haste for killer because they thought aura reading was going to ve easily counterable only for it to directly counter elusive

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I can see legion getting more popular if elusive becomes meta

indigo abyss
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Elusive counters auras, it’s its core mechanic

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Also I’m pretty sure that the reason people didn’t vote for the haste perk for killers was because it just sounded bad and too ambiguous

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Even after they elaborated on it during AMA I’d didn’t become any more clear

gaunt dawn
indigo abyss
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Such as Vecna’s Iridescent Chip add-on

gaunt dawn
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I do wish we had chosen shooting stars. That was the one I was most looking forward to

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Its not the end of the world. I feel like we will get these perks eventually. Its inevitable

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I mean. Technically the Judgement is the end of the world but lets not get into semantics lol

ionic crater
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God I fucking hate the idea of the new boon so much, like it’s so easy to genrush already now we’re just fucking the killer extra hard just for the love of the game

fading lotus
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Almost 2.25 on day one, isnt that faster than last year

indigo abyss
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What?

Oh you mean the bp bonus

fading lotus
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Yip

empty vessel
empty vessel
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Yesssss

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I just wanted the one with the bandana as the head

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Mabye they will add it as a cosmetic l8r

echo folio
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Maybe it'll be an option for the cosmetic vote but I hear you, I just didn't want the glasses. It sounded like an eventual nightmare to make new cosmetics every time with a new pair of glasses, earrings being the one that won is going to be fun.

indigo abyss
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Claudette doesn’t have glasses on all of her cosmetics

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That’s not really an issue

rain canopy
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Is this going to be the next dlc?

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Sorry I'm out of the loop

indigo abyss
vague crater
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ngl its kinda crazy to me that the other mori even got 20% of the votes
I thought it would be like a 90% sweep for the burning mori

noble hornet
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Yeah, boon won, we are cooked

vague crater
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i already invested in shattered hope stocks

astral plinth
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so we're not getting the pallet stun perk...

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another aura reading perk is so boring 🫠

surreal isle
final badger
tropic willow
astral plinth
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and it would've been lowkey refreshing if it came it chorus of sin but oh well 😩

final badger
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i dont know why the big pallet stun perk wasnt added it seemed so much fun

indigo abyss
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And first one reminds me of Vecna a bit too much but I won’t deny that it’s probably better, given the devs can do the gore justice

indigo abyss
old steeple
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Omg, the perks that won are so FAHHHHH

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We got ANOTHER FUCKED ASS GENERATOR PERK!!!! IMA CRY!!!

old steeple
indigo abyss
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What came to my mind was this recently released piece of absolute cinema

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It’s mainly about bringing judgment with his own hands instead of just using psychic powers or whatever

topaz linden
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"VERY LITTLE IS GOING TO WASTE"

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GINGER GANG WE STILL GOT A CHANCE

old steeple
indigo abyss
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It’s merch

old steeple
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Also is that minos?

indigo abyss
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Released shortly after Fraud came out

Yes it’s Minos

old steeple
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Is it a poster? Cause i think im aboit to buy it

indigo abyss
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Something like that, yeah

old steeple
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Also cant wait for layer 9. I just p ranked p1 and p2 and fullycom0leted all of prelude act 1 and 2

indigo abyss
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Good times

old steeple
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Very much

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Soooo we gonna talk about these survivor perks?

topaz linden
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2 of them I voted for

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I did not vote for the boon; that's not my fault

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I liked all the options for the killer perks; but Boon: Steadfast feels dangerous when we already have Fast Track in it's current state

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I pray we at least got the gen kicking perk (that I didn't vote for)

calm rain
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Here’s a random meme

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Eh?

fickle scarab
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Old ass meme

flat bison
final badger
calm rain
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Want to know where I get my meme’s?

final badger
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no

calm rain
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Okie. Wonder if someone will be!

fervent spade
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Random idea I've had and I'm curious if anyone else would agree. "The Judgement" is a relatively accurate angel and stuff, and people love the RE crossovers. So what if we get a crossover from the Ethan Winters ark (specifically RE Village) and we get Mother Miranda as a legendary. Give her a Mori of her own obviously, her own voice lines, you can have the exile place look like the mutamycete realm thing that everyone who is infected can go to (as seen in shadows of rose) and for a weapon, the judgment uses a staff so what if she has the walking stick she uses while she is the hag? I just think it'd be a cool skin and I'm wondering if people agree

calm rain
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Hmm interesting..

fervent spade
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Agree? Disagree? I thought about it way to much lol

crisp sluice
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honestly with that logic , i Agree

tropic willow
calm rain
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Pinterest

tropic willow
fervent spade
stone lance
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BHVR dev reading this make sure the chase music is gregorian chants and organ music it would be rad thanks

calm rain
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GASP FHE ORGAN WOULF BE SIIIICK!!!

compact raven
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so is the grimoire chapter next or is it the anniversary chapter?

tropic willow
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Ive said for awhile i hope their music has an organ. The chanting would be good too

tropic willow
echo folio
final badger
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yk that one video of a opera choir singing five nights at freddys a opera choir singing the theme could be cool too

tropic willow
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I still want a church organ tho

royal knot
grizzled compass
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Who wants the bat perk instead of boon

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Crow not bat

indigo abyss
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We

cobalt ivy
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how did we get literally the most boring perks for survivor

sonic patrol
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Wait what perks won

indigo abyss
gaunt dawn
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Honestly I got damn near everything I wanted aside from perks so Im pretty happy.

gaunt dawn
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the killer is going to be the thing that sticks with us, that and the survivor character itself

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This isnt the channel for it, this channel is for the community voted chapter

thorny compass
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I’m so happy we got another boon, I love booning.

echo folio
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I am happy we got an aura perk for the killer. Fitting for an all seeing killer

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When the ptb drops later this year I am painfully counting how many eyes the Judgment has

nimble imp
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Gen I’m not playing dbd until this thing drops Negl just to build the hype

echo folio
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what if the anniversary chapter is dope and you miss out?

nimble imp
waxen cobalt
thorny compass
# waxen cobalt That perk is way too overpowered imo

Setting up the boon takes about as much time as a pain res at 60% so by setting up the boon you kinda pain res ur gen. Gen blocking perks, like Grim Embrace, bypass the boon. So if the killer runs blocking over regression ur perk does nothing. Please I don't want more perks to be fearmongered into nothing before we even get a change to use them

indigo abyss
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It’s either gonna be useless or too strong

summer wolf
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Is it guaranteed that the new killer will be purchasable with Iridescent Shards?

waxen cobalt
thorny compass
tropic willow
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Hopfully its a only works for one gen no matter who puts it boon

echo folio
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I think and hope it is only works on the gens near the boon and it would need to be moved around throughout the match

tropic willow
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I just pray its only one gen the entire match

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Cause if not imma regret voting for it

echo folio
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One gen only a match would be a weak perk but we'll see

tropic willow
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Like its gonna be too op if can just protect 4 gens the entire match

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Hopfully they actually balance it so people just use it as an anti 3 gen which is what i voted for it to use it as

gaunt dawn
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If this isnt going to be for the anniversery chapter then I predict the grimoire killer will be a september or october release

waxen cobalt
tropic willow
waxen cobalt
# tropic willow I highly doubt it. We arent even done voting yet

We're only voting for basic stuff like names etc. The hardest part (the killer power, killer and survivor design, etc) are all already done and I think it's possible for a big studio like BHVR to make it in the span of 3 months. But if it comes in September/October thats great as well

tropic willow
waxen cobalt
# tropic willow

All that stuff is super simple impo, except for the VOs, so instead of june its probably August-September

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I wouldn't be surprised if it came in July

tropic willow
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I mean they still have to make the stuff for their appearance which takes time to model and texture

waxen cobalt
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Honestly I hope it comes super late. That survivor boon perk seems busted asf

tropic willow
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Yeah i hope it only effects one gen even if used by multiple people otherwise its going to be too op if everyone runs it

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I only voted for it to use as an anti 3 gen

vast wyvern
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I’m so upset yall picked the boon peek over the Crows one 😭

fading elbow
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tokens for scaring crows sounds lame

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and would probably be another dogshit perk too

fading lotus
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What is wrong with dbd today? Ive been disconnected several times despite having good internet

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I had a 4k and disconnected at the end

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Unk on trickster’s map breh

fickle scarab
neon sierra
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Blood moon prolly aint helping

plain copper
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On one hand, I'm sad that the Exalted lost as a name, since its meaning has a lot of depth to it. On the OTHER hand, I'm hyped for all of the ULTRAKILL memes that will come from the name JUDGEMENT

indigo abyss
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Honestly I don’t really get the appeal of Exalted

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But that’s just me

echo folio
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Meanwhile I was disappointed it wasn't the Apocalypse but the Judgment still works

indigo abyss
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dim bearBOT
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@errant sable 🚫➡️ That user is already banned. You can adjust unban timers with /unban user: ID

tropic willow
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If so i was tempted to @ the crew too on them but was like half asleep

tacit jolt
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But yeah I’m sad Desolation and Flesh is Weak aren’t the winners since the names (especially the second one) go hard

remote tree
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You don't have one?

indigo abyss
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<@&480465015267262484>

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remote tree
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tropic willow
random heath
tropic willow
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Yeah if anyone ever links someone to a random server never click it guys unless you vocally confirm it was from them on VC since theres discord servers that once you join they somehow insta hack your account. Had an old account get lost that way years ago and ive seen it happen to others too sadly.

dim bearBOT
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proper lynx
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Drunk dbd?

gilded elk
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:3

mint geyser
grizzled compass
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What's the killer perks calledb

indigo abyss
grizzled compass
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That's unique names
We know anything on how they work

indigo abyss
grizzled compass
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Okay that's good
An obsession build but the obsession hates themselves

indigo abyss
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It’ll come out either in August/September or November/December given no delays happen

grizzled compass
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Wait we have another chapter in between?!?!

indigo abyss
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We have the anniversary chapter

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And maybe another one after that

grizzled compass
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What we usually get in anniversary other that cakes

indigo abyss
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Grimoire has been an ongoing thing since July

grizzled compass
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And other items like that

indigo abyss
grizzled compass
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I forgot grimoire existed

indigo abyss
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Haven’t you come to this channel asking about grimoire?

grizzled compass
indigo abyss
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What I think doesn’t really matter

grizzled compass
indigo abyss
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Older what

grizzled compass
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Grimoires

indigo abyss
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That’s

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That’s the first grimoire, like ever

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We haven’t had a community made chapter before

toxic verge
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How does everyone feel about the new killer

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I’m happy for new perks to release I have every killer in the game

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What are some builds you guys might create

indigo abyss
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And if it’ll become meta, so will probably Tinkerer

lavish niche
gaunt dawn
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I hope we continue getting updates about its development and not just leave us in the dark until release

echo folio
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After a certain amount of votes there really is nothing left but letting the devs work on the chapter until it is ready for the ptb I have enjoyed this grimoire step by step but don't want to dream too big

tropic willow
echo folio
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I think they mean older posts unless they were thinking of tomes

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Like how the first ever grimoire post was to define our killer and survivor's tone. A supernatural world? Grounded into reality? Otherworldly.

calm pelican
hollow cliff
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when do yall think the next ptb will be? those leaks said one is happening tommorow

fickle scarab
lavish niche
# fickle scarab

do we know what the outfits from the rift are going to include?

fickle scarab
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No

soft yoke
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What was the name of the new killer that won? I can't remember?

indigo abyss
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The April PTB is just a regular update

fickle scarab
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I wonder when my little oni will drop

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Its not on there

modern oasis
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do we have the results yet

indigo abyss
lucid spear
indigo abyss
soft yoke
indigo abyss
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We don’t know much about its lore since you know

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It’s in the middle of development

echo folio
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We only have the survivor and killer verses to rely on a storyline so far. This killer is a killer of world's in the multiverse. A first for us. "The divine force brings memories of terrors rendered upon countless worlds. The screams and cries and nightmares of unworthy souls. They whispered stories of your almighty deliverance from civilisation to civilisation. Your reputation preceded you everywhere you went" "Standing in the foyer, you see the cause of your suffering: the divine creature believed to have brought about The Collapse of your world. Your blood runs cold at the sight of the one your people fear most."

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I cannot wait to read the full storyline when the chapter is finished

lucid spear
echo folio
fading epoch
# fickle scarab

PTB will just be for general changes they have planned or have they posted a PTB change log already?

indigo abyss
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Whether it is an actual angel within the game’s world is yet to be determined

fickle scarab
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In hinduism there is a good god of destruction who destroys the world before it can be reborn and reshaped.

worthy temple
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Can everyone just spam in the future pole idea to change shrine of secrets (I know it prob wont change in a bit but either way its a start)

dull flame
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https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=68oaSBeIpAU bro i love how the prototype model is spirit on nurse animation lmao

Behaviour gave me and several other folks in the DBD Creator Program a chance to try out a super-early version of the upcoming Killer, "The Judgment". BHVR set us up to play this prototype remotely and they were also kind enough to provide the raw spectator footage so we could showcase it for you all.

0:00 What is the Grimoire?
2:57 The Judgmen...

▶ Play video
solemn trail
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So we just basically nuke survivors? Judgement is gonna be complicated I can tell

sonic patrol
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what

solemn trail
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The new killers power

sonic patrol
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have they shown it?

dull flame
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it doesnt look too complicated, its vecna with curves

solemn trail
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Not exactly, just the prototype

solemn trail
dull flame
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yea me too XD

solemn trail
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Plus coming from a religious family an angel killer is so peak to me

sonic patrol
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that lowkey does look cool

dull flame
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also its literally vecna again, you infect them with power once and then it can do damage

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i wonder if it ignored elevation, that could be nefarious

indigo abyss
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I see the similarities with Vecna but cmon dude it’s not going to play anything like him

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It seems way more mechanically complex

modest gull
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Ngl the killer feels super weak.

dull flame
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people need to understand that with killers like these, the only thing stopping your power is you being bad

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thats why nurse is so strong

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the only survivor counterplay is tricking you into wrong predictions, theres nothing stopping you from 2 tapping everyone at a technical level

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this isnt gonna be weak, but at least this time it looks a lot more fun

dull flame
echo folio
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The power looks incredibly fun to use. As an unknown I have to predict where uvx will bounce on top of where survivors are moving sometimes just by gamesense. This killer looks rewarding to practice

indigo abyss
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It’s about how the power functions on a fundamental level

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And so far it seems great

modest gull
modest gull
lapis walrus
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Why are sins ONE thjng??? Itd be so much more interesting if sins were a percentage

dull flame
indigo abyss
lapis walrus
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Will never forgive people for voting against the idea of gaining sin from doing bad actions thruout the match

it should be the more sin you have, the harder the exile is to survive

modest gull
# dull flame are you referring to the other realm? thats a hook state, if they fail to keep ...

Yeah but it's not really applying much pressure. As far as I have seem even if you somehow miss the light rays in it it doesn't really decrease the timer that much. And also survs don't even have to leave gens to save them. They can sit to a gen that is near the praying thingy and just do it knowing they will be able to save their teammate easily. So they don't even have to leave their gens to save as normally they have to do that so it wastes their time.

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They will most likely do something about this tho I hope

indigo abyss
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That’s not even that much different from Pyramidhead’s cages

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Both sides save time

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And both sides cannot use their hook related perks

lapis walrus
indigo abyss
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So

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Similar to Cages

fickle scarab
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Tbagging builds sin

lime zenith
indigo abyss
lime zenith
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that actually makes so much sense im so excited

indigo abyss
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Ok no that’s actually better than Phead’s cages

fickle scarab
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This is the greatest killer power eveer

lime zenith
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when are they gonna show full killer model in game and weapon?

indigo abyss
fickle scarab
indigo abyss
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Most likely when the chapter comes out

lime zenith
lime zenith
fickle scarab
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Youre underestimating how long it takes to make a detailed model lol

lime zenith
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ur right tbh

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i love the sin mechanic and praying for forgiveness

indigo abyss
lime zenith
indigo abyss
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That’s not too far from now

indigo abyss
lime zenith
indigo abyss
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The killer is marked as k44 in the prototype build

lime zenith
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what does that mean

indigo abyss
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Vecna is the 42nd killer

lime zenith
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BROOOO 😞 💔

indigo abyss
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What are you getting upset at

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That just confirms the theory we just discussed

lime zenith
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the fact there’s another killer before chorus of sin or did i misunderstand

indigo abyss
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That’s what I initially said?

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We have a chapter in June and after that one (presumably) the grimoire chapter comes out

lime zenith
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oh right the anniversary no?

indigo abyss
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Yes

lime zenith
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right mb, those r the last chapters of the year or is there a 3rd possibly

indigo abyss
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Dbd’s new year starts in June

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So whatever comes out in June will be the first chapter of 11th year

lime zenith
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ayayay i mean 2026

indigo abyss
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And what comes after that we don’t know, Dave Richard talked about some big changes in scheduling coming in the future

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And we’ve already seen that partially, with this year only having 3 killers instead of usual 4

lime zenith
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i see

fickle scarab
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Its in an early prototype phase

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Then again the develoupmebt time isnt exactly clear

gaunt dawn
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Did you guys see the otz gameplay of the grimoire killer?

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I have a minor reccomendation. Behind the character portraits, Id like it if the thing that basically says if the survivors are 'damned" to be like a spell circle or some kind of mystical symbol

fickle scarab
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I watched Hens

bright sparrow
fickle scarab
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Cause thTs what someone linked

bright sparrow
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and just made it another ‘effect on hit’ power instead of something more unique

fickle scarab
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If this idea is purely cut I will riot

lime zenith
fickle scarab
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Im gonna give them the benefit of the doubt and assume that the current sin system is temporary

bright sparrow
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I don’t have that much faith in behavior

fickle scarab
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Because it is that of an option which lost in the poll

bright sparrow
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Not after the fast track buff and the lackluster blood moon event we have rn

indigo abyss
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And again don’t forget that this is still a prototype

bright sparrow
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Yea but still super disheartening that they’re just like yea so we’re gonna move away from doing something more unique and just use our standard effect application

indigo abyss
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Because what do you mean you’re losing hope after those thing

bright sparrow
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I didn’t have much left to begin with

indigo abyss
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Those aren’t even in the top 20 probably

bright sparrow
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I got a little back from the concepts of this chapter, but now that they’re gutting the uniqueness of the sin effect on top of all the other bullshit they’re doing, I don’t got any real faith in them

fickle scarab
bright sparrow
fickle scarab
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Power hit is not what we voted for

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Said it already but yeah

bright sparrow
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even as a prototype. Like I fail to see why they couldn’t have made a prototype with the concept we voted for.

fickle scarab
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And again, its probably a placeholder

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Thats my guess anyway

bright sparrow
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Hopefully

ebon needle
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I'm sad it's an aimable ability, i figured it'd just spawn directly on the survivors automatically sort of like a doctor shock

ebon needle
# indigo abyss What?

yeah, like it would be an ability you trigger and it smites survivors instead of something you aim

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that's why I voted for it

indigo abyss
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Yeah no that sounds horrible

fickle scarab
ebon needle
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oh yeah but it didn't damage from what i remember

indigo abyss
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I’m not sure what you’re talking about

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There was the ray, a controllable weapon and a damage from above (basically what ray evolved into over the course of the development)

ebon needle
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yeah I chose damage from above

indigo abyss
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Why would you assume that you don’t have to aim using this I have no idea

ebon needle
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cause aiming's horrible and we have 30 aiming killers already

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something that'd smite from above and being unavoidable would be fitting

indigo abyss
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How do you suppose they made it engaging for both sides

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Because unavoidable damage sounds horrible by default

ebon needle
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That's a nonanswer, not everything in the game is made to be engaging for both sides

indigo abyss
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Well, it should be

ebon needle
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But it isn't

fickle scarab
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Here we go

indigo abyss
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Oh lmao

ebon needle
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huh odd I don't r emember the lower ones there

indigo abyss
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Yeah there’s aiming in every single one of those

ebon needle
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that's a shame, I wanted unavoidable stuff

indigo abyss
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Not a shame

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I’ll stand by that

ebon needle
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eh it's just another aiming killer

indigo abyss
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Skill expression on both sides = good

Unavoidable damage and lack of interactivity = bad

That’s pretty much an axiom

ebon needle
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Eh, agree to disagree. Doctor would be just perfect if his static shock injured

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so I hoped it'd be something of the sort here, punishing sins etc

indigo abyss
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That’s one of the worst takes I’ve ever heard, with all due respect

ebon needle
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I thought it'd be fitting, you do sins - you get punished

tribal pendant
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I'm very disappointed to see that there's not going to be an option to enter the Exile as Killer.
I understand the concern of how it has the potential to waste a Killer's time, but I feel like there has to be a way to increase the value to make the reward worth it

ebon needle
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I don't mind it honestly, banishing a survivor for a time is kinda fun

tribal pendant
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The way it was proposed, I thought it would operate like a 1v1 ult arena. Perhaps the potential for an instakill or instahook if the Killer wins

The way they're currently prototyping, where it's a hook state, I don't think there's any way to salvage that

ebon needle
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is the angel at least 4.6?

indigo abyss
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We don’t know and even if we did, that could change 5 times before the chapter comes out

indigo abyss
ebon needle
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hope he's at least 4.6. Anything slower is absoloutely painful

indigo abyss
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With what they have already cooked up this seems like an appropriate power

ebon needle
#

ngl i wish legions basic running speed was regular killer speed

indigo abyss
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Dino I’m starting to think this is either a bit or a bait

ebon needle
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I'm just a lover of going fast

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my clown build is purely about getting haste

#

Ever since they nerfed purple bottles

indigo abyss
#

By 1%

tribal pendant
ebon needle
indigo abyss
#

What would’ve you voted for then

tribal pendant
#

I need a refresher on what the options were tbh, they're blending together

indigo abyss
#

That was the most interesting by far, I’ll tell you that

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The other ones were something that was already seen and done before

ebon needle
#

i remember that too

vale wing
#

killer looks really fun & interesting, i love how they pretty much have doorman's ability from deadlock lol

ebon needle
#

it was either like nemi or plague

indigo abyss
ebon needle
indigo abyss
#

Initially it was planned

#

They’ve talked about trying to make it work multiple times but it just doesn’t unfortunately

tribal pendant
#

I agree it was interesting but I think only because I think it was different from anything we've heard before and we were promised that "1v1" aspect, but idk if it's interesting at its core. Without direct Killer intervention, the Exile mechanic is starting to sound like an uninteractive time waster that Survivors are going to hate once the novelty wears off, much like Onryo Condemned

ebon needle
#

I still wish onryos tv's couldn't be turned off and were always avalible to teleport to

tribal pendant
# indigo abyss

I would love the idea of something like Merciless Might where the power actually evolves over the course of the match to become something different from what it starts as.

Like, if Nemesis actually turned into his evolved monster form over the course of a match and unlocks new abilities rather than just straight-up stat-boosting him

#

Relentless Suffering's implementation 1000% depends on how it's implemented.

Ex: If it's just something like slower heal times, boring.
If it's something like, a version of Nemesis's zombies themed as divine henchmen will begin to spawn and slowly hunt down Sinners until they repent, interesting

ebon needle
#

I guess we'll see for now

#

hopefully they make the attack a bit better

tribal pendant
#

So many of their proposals are made or broken by how they present the options.
For example, the Avaunt! perk could have been super cool depending on what the reward for scaring crows was, but it was worded so ambiguously it just sounded boring

indigo abyss
#

It can’t by judged by its strength yet

#

The attack that is

tribal pendant
#

But people did, that's how people chose to vote

#

Ah, sorry, I thought that was in response to me

indigo abyss
#

If this makes the situation any better, the devs have admitted to have failed by giving the community to vote on the power in such a way

#

So with future grimoires they’ll try to improve upon this one

tribal pendant
#

I do appreciate that, yeah, but I think they overcorrected and went too vague

#

they need to strike a balance where people can use their imagination but also understand the practical strength and implications of what they're voting for

#

Not an easy thing to do, I've never doubted

indigo abyss
#

Well at the very least what we have seems to be fun and unique, even if not entirely unique

#

This doesn’t seem like another SM and that’s honestly already enough for me to be satisfied

finite fractal
#

can someone give me some good perks for p1 ,,the first" please?

golden herald
# indigo abyss

3rd option isn't gonna happen. Thats just to make you think Behavior 2026 is competent

golden herald
tacit jolt
tacit jolt
finite fractal
tacit jolt
#

Also side note I hope theirs like a choir as part of the chase music

golden herald
tacit jolt
golden herald
#

Wrong one

#

There we go boys and girls

#

Thought this was #media my bad

winged comet
#

Have the Devs not mentioned anything about the artifacts we've voted for yet?

indigo abyss
indigo abyss
tranquil iris
hollow cliff
fickle scarab
hollow cliff
#

so no new characters or anythging

#

cause my theory was they were gonna realease grimooire soon and then jason would be perfect for 10th anniversary

#

but with how its tracking along grimoire might be the 10th anniversary

fickle scarab
#

So like september at the earliest

scarlet crystal
#

When we getting the grimorie killer again

#

Ah didn’t see messages my bad

calm rain
#

I hope people heard about recent info of the killer

winged comet
calm rain
#

YouTuber’s got some sneak peaks and gameplay test of the killer

#

Got to see how it’s power works to

winged comet
calm rain
#

And updated stuff for the pocket dimension

calm rain
winged comet
calm rain
#

I mean the judgments little realm

#

Looks like a new Tanya can do with a flash light- gimme a moment-

#

Two different YouTubers btw

#

Pretty cool

#

Idk if I’m allowed to show this or something- sooooo eh

winged comet
calm rain
#

Fair enough

#

But ya- seems very cool

#

Yall wanna know which YouTuber or naw

lavish niche
# calm rain

i mean tbh, while i dislike the fact that once again its a killer that is a 3 shot killer it IS cool over all

calm rain
#

Ye

#

Still would have liked beam hands

gaunt dawn
#

Did we get any info on if they found it possible for the killer to visit that realm?

#

If not, I might just play survivor to experience it

calm rain
#

Yes… and also they said no in killer going in the realm since it didn’t make sense

gaunt dawn
#

Ah. I guess Ill be playing some survivor then!

calm rain
#

lol

gaunt dawn
#

Honestly awesome chapter. Can't wait for next round of voting

#

The game has its own charm for a long time with its original characters but I think with these newest additions of original characters this game is finally getting to a point where it can stand on its own without the licenses

calm ruin
#

Can't wait to nuke survivors with the holy spirit

neon escarp
#

which perks won?

echo folio
# neon escarp which perks won?

For killer we have Vigilance - near perfect aura read on the obsession
Hex: Under Your Thumb - limits survivors’ haste
Lay Waste - increases regression on nearly repaired generators

winged comet
#

I didn't fully realize how huge a haste limiter perk is

bright briar
#

@rose vapor

terse sorrel
#

How do I check which perks and designs won the last votes?

calm rain
#

Look into the media past

vague crater
#

ts is hilarious

echo folio
#

Finally, a killer with a power built in to counter Tbagging

lavish niche
fickle scarab
#

In favor of a nemesis infection system

vague crater
#

classic bhvr

#

making shit BORING 💔

echo folio
#

I know it's the truth but it still hurts

fickle scarab
#

What if they like

#

Make it so you suffer different effects based on stuff you due whole infected

#

like you cant leave the exit gates after tbagging

indigo abyss
#

That’s too complicated

#

I agree that sin should not be just a third health state but we have to understand that the killer has to be comprehensible by an average player

lavish niche
#

i mean it is though, if you get hit you get sin, if you get hit again but the ranged attack you get damaged if you get downed by the damage you THEN get the chance to be sent to a different area where you need your team to bring you back, pretty simple tbh

indigo abyss
#

That’s…How it is right now

#

Not what CatMan described

fickle scarab
#

As it is what we voted for

indigo abyss
#

I agree, what I am against is different effects for different sins

#

That’s too much

vague crater
#

searching chests, hiding in lockers, etc

fickle scarab
vague crater
#

but doing generators or opening the gate wouldnt

indigo abyss
vague crater
fickle scarab
indigo abyss
#

That’s also a slippery slope because like it or not but a simple “3 hits to down” system is the easiest one to balance, it’ll sure be no easy to make sin gain work without it

#

Again I’m all for a more interesting system but I’m just admitting to the fact it’s very hard to get right

steady flint
#

Do we know the killers perks?

fickle scarab
#

On thing they could do is make it so the exile plays out different depending on sins they accumulate

fickle scarab
#

Theres one that is a hex which limits survivor haste boosts in some way and another perk that increases regression speed of generators near completion. Idr the third one.

lavish niche
#

and compared to the survivor perks we have coughing baby v nuclear fucking bomb myersnosmile

indigo abyss
lavish niche
#

what does that even fucking mean

#

you can either see the obsessions aura or you cant

#

???

indigo abyss
#

I’d assume it means that it’s permanent under certain conditions

lavish niche
#

Ah that actually seems like it could be pretty strong then

indigo abyss
#

My theory is that it gives you effect similar to Vecna’s Iridescent Soteria Chip/Clown’s Cigar Box where it reveals obsession’s aura in a short radius

#

But regardless what the effect turns out to be, it’ll also probably need a built in obsession swapping in order to discourage tunneling

lavish niche
indigo abyss
#

That’s uhhh

#

A perk already

lavish niche
#

which perk?

#

Oh wait do you mean futrive chase?

#

I mean EVERY HOOK not once the obsession dies

low condor
lavish niche
low condor
low condor
#

jus watched the angel killer gameplay, seems cool but I really hope the Sin mechanic doesnt release as just another infection. Survivors should be gaining Sin themselves, as thats how sin works lol, ppl dont sin you, you commit sins.

indigo abyss
#

Also when looking up up to date info about dbd always use dbd wiki.gg

#

Don’t touch fandom wiki with a ten foot stick

tropic willow
#

Video showing what was voted for killer power wise

uneven grove
#

Why isn't the grimoire killer The Mimic

#

from the hit game Five Nights at Freddy's

lavish niche
uneven grove
#

grr

calm rain
tropic willow
uneven grove
#

Ah I see my mistake is my question, the question should have been "Why isn't The Mimic from the hit game Five Nights at Freddy's the Grimoire killer"

echo folio
#

The grimoire isn't for licensed killers or survivors it is where the community crafts and votes to create a chapter from scratch to the end

uneven grove
#

So why didn't they make the Mimic? To mimic or not to mimic, that is the question.

tropic willow
#

It makes complete sense to do the main villain of the entire franchise first

indigo abyss
tropic willow
final badger
calm rain
#

What is happening—

#

I just woke up man— tf?

worn heart
#

Hello everyone

calm rain
#

Sup anime gal

calm rain
#

Meme for the day

indigo abyss
#

Not really fitting for this channel but Richard at the bottom is top tier larping

flat bison
calm rain
#

Hm?

#

Wat that mean¿

#

Ooh

#

…well I don’t want this server to be dead now do I? Nine

flat bison
#

That doesn't really matter, please put memes in #media
This channel is for grimoire stuff

lusty moon
#

The boon perk that was added is gonna be nerfed to the ground

proven charm
#

Halo x Dead By Daylight
Jega Rdomnai -> Killer (BladeMaster)
ODST -> Survi

Gears of War x Dead By Daylight
Skorge -> Killer (The General)
Carmine -> Survi

calm rain
#

Eh it’s fine

calm rain
indigo abyss
lapis walrus
calm rain
#

I like the gears of war idea though.. but I think the killer should be Raam

fast dove
# calm rain Meme for the day

Idk, Greg from Steven universe tries but has made some mistakes in being unable to relate to Steven. Steven never went to school for goodness sake

wide verge
#

hello everyone

winged comet
final badger
#

bro said hell everyone

winged comet
#

So, what do people think of the killer post-streamer invites?

#

So far the main thing I've seen is people complaining it's not what they voted for, is anyone excited tfor the new killer as-is?

tacit jolt
# vague crater ts is hilarious

I’m fine with the infection esc system they have atm for the ray of judgement, but I think my personal compromise I thought of is if they made it a precent thing

  • Time within the ray will very quickly build up sin so a direct hit will basically fill it up completely. A very brief stray wouldn’t do as much but still a lot.

  • and then doing certain actions within the terror radius of the judgement will slowly build up sin based on severity so they have time to correct themselves but can still will accumulate sin the judgement can use against them for later.

  • finally after they are at max sin and can be damaged by the ray only then can they go repent, I would change the spawn logic a bit so they don’t spawn directly by generators.

Thats my take anyway

#

It’s that or (and this would buff hopeless exile) that a survivor can only be banished once, but when someone was banished they get the empowered state while the survivor is in exile and for a bit after they are freed, that way the positive effects feel more felt if the survivor’s team mates don’t try and help

#

If they do the later they could always have negative status effects be applied to you if you do the image’s effects while you have sin

tropic willow
#

Feel like richard and peter should be swapped with eachother

trim current
#

why did i get banned from the forums for no reason

#

i dont even post

indigo abyss
calm rain
#

Sounds like I can’t have fun here :(

surreal isle
empty vessel
#

Does any1 have the roadmap for the grimoire killer

empty vessel
grim tinsel
#

When does ut release,

indigo abyss
grim tinsel
indigo abyss
#

One of those two releases

grim tinsel
#

Thx

calm rain
final badger
indigo abyss
#

It’s just a voting roadmap

final badger
indigo abyss
#

I clarified right after😭

final badger
#

mb twin

fickle scarab
#

please behavior make the other design a cosmetic with extended lore tying into the main design

placid radish
#

Yo I have a good question so I know it's basically impossible to escape the entity but How tf did trickster meet Tae and threw him off a balcony if bro was already in the entity

echo folio
#

So here's the thing the entity pulls people from any point of the timeline it wants so it can take Kwon Tae-Young way before Trickster or Yun-jin come to the fog but they didn't arrive at the same time. Kwon fell into the future called a "bubble" of the entity and we just now discovered him and MiNA

fickle scarab
#

The order characters get added isnt really set in stone lorewise

#

Vitorio has been in there for hundreds for years

gaunt dawn
gaunt dawn
#

Im marking may 14th on my calender

final badger
undone ridge
indigo abyss
#

Time is not linear in the realm

#

Nor is it a concern for the entity itself

severe fern
echo folio
#

Technically it wasn't in the tomes but an old dev stream from 10 years ago that asked was trapper the first killer chosen by the entity and they said "That original killer was bad at their job and is probably in the void now." It makes me smile trying to think of what qualifies being bad. A friendly killer? Someone that barely or never got sacrifices or put people on hooks.

undone ridge
indigo abyss
# undone ridge Is there a good source for learning the lore of dbd? I don't have it in me to bo...

Just a quick one today, eh?

00:00:00 Intro
00:01:52 Pre-19th Century
00:10:16 The Industrial Revolution (19th C. - pre-war 20th. C)
00:19:00 Post-WWII (1950s-1970s)
00:33:33 Enter The Slashers (1978-1990s)
00:49:57 Horror for the New Millennium (2000s)
01:00:37 So Many Survivors... (2010s)
01:13:16 The Here And Now (2020s)
01:20:35 GOTTA GO TO ...

▶ Play video
echo folio
#

^

#

Pixel and Azhymov got you covered

severe fern
undone ridge
severe fern
#

tome 12 is also very interesting

undone ridge
#

Aite bet CrowLove

echo folio
severe fern
echo folio
#

I love the direction it seemed The Mad Designer was leading the Observer to become a killer. Wonder if it'll matter later down the road

severe fern
#

but it does seem like he was being driven towards becoming a killer

#

i also hope we get to see more of it at some point

#

and considering how much time was between Blights first mention in the tomes to his release, its entirely possible down the line

indigo abyss
#

Because he would probably have the biggest build up out of any other character

severe fern
#

very thematic

indigo abyss
#

Last time I considered him to be a potential new killer was around 6th anniversary I think?

#

Whenever the blue stuff appeared on the skulls they use for promo art

indigo abyss
#

<@&480465015267262484>

dim bearBOT
#

@errant sable 🚫➡️ That user is already banned. You can adjust unban timers with /unban user: ID

fickle scarab
#

Its always the bad and/or generally clueless players running these generator builds.

#

woops wrong channel

waxen cobalt
fickle scarab
#

This is just another person who deosnt understand how Hag works

#

I brought it up because it feels like fast track is only ever used by bad or inexperienced players

echo folio
#

I see more and more perks like Corrective actions to avoid that

fickle scarab
tranquil iris
#

This is the grimoire discussion channel

echo folio
#

I am curious if the cosmetic vote will allow us to bring the older ideas for the killer back or are we trying to add clothing onto the impossible body shape that is the Judgment

latent haven
echo folio
latent haven
#

That too

tropic willow
latent haven
tropic willow
latent haven
#

I was going to say its basic knowledge but you joined in 2025

fickle scarab
#

we don't know anything about it beyond the name

indigo abyss
fickle scarab
indigo abyss
#

It was always meant to be a bone for the dataminers

fickle scarab
#

Oh I didnt know that

#

DBD honeypots are always amusing

azure token
#

Wasn’t there a killer that just broke through anything but was scrapped

indigo abyss
#

Before the game was even fully conceptualised

#

Like when that also considered adding parkour

fickle scarab
#

remember the Vee one?

indigo abyss
#

The what

fickle scarab
#

There was a honeypot for leakers last year that was a fake version of Vee before Vee was announced

#

Idk if posting that is allowed or not since technically Behavior made it

azure token
#

If it isn’t going to be used than I think it’s fine

indigo abyss
#

I remember there being a bunch of supposed leaks in general

#

But none that would tie them to Vee

#

Huh, now that I think about it

fickle scarab
indigo abyss
#

Grimoire chapter cannot possibly be leaked, right

indigo abyss
fickle scarab
#

It turned out to be a honeypot specifically made to bait in leakers

#

its obviously still loosely based on the actual survivor that ended up releasing

indigo abyss
#

Couldn’t it be just an early concept

fickle scarab
#

could br

#

but everyone was convinced it was a honeypot

indigo abyss
#

I mean I can believe that

final badger
# fickle scarab

if this is actually a honeypot its a shitty honeypot because it literally looks like an early concept like what nemo said

zenith cliff
#

Should i get the new killer or the first?

#

And is the new grimoire killer gonna be accessable with irri?

fickle scarab
#

Also the grimoire killer isnt coming until late in the year

zenith cliff
fickle scarab
fast dove
fickle scarab
#

Oof

#

I spent the entite PTB playing other killers using his perks lol

#

All three are amazing and fun

indigo abyss
#

A playable build?

final badger
#

oh yeah true lol

tropic willow
marble zenith
#

uh

velvet stream
#

Nice work Mods... 🥀

cold lagoon
#

The hell

sick storm
indigo abyss
#

<@&480465015267262484>

barren mural
#

make the killer invisble with no terror radius and make it long and close range

indigo abyss
celest nova
hybrid geode
#

are there any codes that give bloodpoints or sum

lavish niche
#

what happened?

final badger
hollow hawk
#

When is the glyph visible to killer?

winged comet
# hollow hawk When is the glyph visible to killer?

Green glyphs appear when nearby, and have their aura revealed every generator, not sure.

Orange glyphs spawn next to the killer.

The survivor-quest glyphs mostly appear to the killer while a survivor is interacting with them.

Also #game-questions is probably where you want to be.

winged comet
tropic willow
teal marlin
#

Hello, everyone

final badger
tropic willow
#

Ello moto

toxic verge
#

Good morning

sick charm
final badger
quiet harness
#

6’7

tranquil lynx
#

How is life

#

Yo

cyan field
#

Is wglf fixed in ptb

fast dove
#

I’m surprised this channel is open, new grimoire vote isn’t open yet

tropic willow
indigo abyss
indigo abyss
tropic willow
#

I dont recall ever seeing it closed tbh

echo folio
#

Yeah I never saw this channel locked. The ptb discussion on the other hand is locked in between ptbs

calm rain
#

Sweet. I do wonder, ya think the killer will float? Or walk/crawl

limpid summit
#

It will be 4500 or 9k cost?

indigo abyss
echo folio
limpid summit
indigo abyss
echo folio
#

No no, just the new chapter like Kwon

indigo abyss
#

What

limpid summit
indigo abyss
echo folio
#

Wait the grimoire chapter, yes It will easily be worth the purchase when it comes out at the end of the year

limpid summit
echo folio
#

Good job

echo folio
#

Can't know it will release at the end of the year? I mean it was what has been stated multiple streams and the ama

indigo abyss
#

We can’t know if it’ll be worth buying

echo folio
#

Oh personally I do know

limpid summit
indigo abyss
limpid summit
echo folio
#

We have voices and music to vote for next month

indigo abyss
echo folio
#

This week we vote on the cosmetics

indigo abyss
#

Chapters take a long while to make

#

From start to finish it’s not less than a year

limpid summit
indigo abyss
#

Dude

#

Everything is raw

#

Altars are just plague’s fountains, exile is just a textureless void, they use flashlight instead of artefact

#

And the killer itself is just spirit’s model with nurse’s rigging

#

They aren’t even balancing the power in terms of strength, they’re still trying to figure out the very fundamentals

calm rain
#

But! It’s still REALLY cool~

It’d be worth to buy it just for pure aura, besides I do not care how much it cost’s (kinda) I’d still buy it because of how much work was put in it

dusky quarry
#

Its an original chapter, so it will probably be purchasable with iri shards

empty vessel
#

When does this rift pass end cuz I think that’s when it will release

final badger
indigo abyss
indigo abyss
empty vessel
final badger
vestal sandal
#

Does the new killer really have a thing to punish survivors for Tbagging?

final badger
vestal sandal
#

I saw a thing that said Tbagging will increase survivors sin meter

final badger
vestal sandal
#

They could add it just for when your in the killers terror radius

final badger
vestal sandal
#

Listen I don't care either way if its implemented but you keep suggesting stuff that has obvious answers. It could just not apply when the killer is undetectable

final badger
vestal sandal
final badger
vestal sandal
#

I didn't suggest it like i already said I saw a thing saying its happening and was asking if its true. And Its not at all a fact that they couldn't add that mechanic because players crouch spam for non Tbagging reasons that has a obvious answer and its only applying when within the killers terror radius

final badger
vestal sandal
#

So? It not working when the killer has undetectable doesn't mean the mechanic couldn't exist it just wouldn't work in the rare times when the killer has undetectable

final badger
vestal sandal
#

I would have no problem with it. I don't care if they added it and it didn't work when the killer had undetectable it doesn't matter

final badger
#

alr man

tropic willow
regal bone
#

goblin quentin was reborn? since when?

indigo abyss
calm ruin
#

I KEEP COMING TO THE WRONG CHAT

indigo abyss
#

Relatable tbh

calm rain
#

Sup nerds..

#

Here’s a good question- witch one would u be

-# wonder if peps will respond

echo folio
#

Good morning Grimmy crew

calm rain
#

lol

empty vessel
calm rain
#

Lmao

empty vessel
#

lol

calm rain
#

Rip vanilla 😔

empty vessel
#

Omg the scene where white lily dies and he was crying 😭

calm rain
#

That day shippers where furious

empty vessel
#

Who’s ur fav cookie

empty vessel
calm rain
#

Buuut out of those three

#

Dark cacao

empty vessel
#

Mine is eternal sugar I have her max and made her a shrine in my kingdom🤭

calm rain
#

lol

empty vessel
calm rain
#

100% sure dark enchantress can be in dbd

empty vessel
#

I ended up getting her skin anyways but I still hate him

empty vessel
calm rain
#

I do believe the voting is today?

indigo abyss
#

Correct

echo folio
surreal isle
indigo abyss
echo folio
dull flame
#

this could be interesting

indigo abyss
gaunt dawn
#

When we getting the cosmetics vote?

empty vessel
#

Are we able to vote yet?

#

Or is it in 2 hours

indigo abyss
surreal isle
#

Soooooooooon*

echo folio
calm rain
calm rain
#

lol

calm rain
#

ONE MORE HOUR

#

R-Right?

indigo abyss
calm rain
#

FUCK

indigo abyss
# calm rain FUCK

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calm rain
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:D

gilded ore
gilded ore
calm rain
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OOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOO

balmy meadow
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the killer concept should be very obvious, i think

calm rain
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happy clown sound’s

bleak adder
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oh myy i cant choose on the surv one

jade palm
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I just saw the cosmetic for Aurora

for the love of crype. DON'T MAKE HER A NUN!!!

calm rain
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Lmoa

echo folio
calm rain
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IM VOTING THAT IMMEDIATELY >:P

jaunty niche
echo folio
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Holy horror~ I love it

deft minnow
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Ngl, the second cosmetic for the killer is sick as hell

gilded ore
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OOh so good to hear!

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What do you love about it?

deft thunder
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2/2/3 for the win

calm rain
calm rain
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Brb real quick

sturdy marlin
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Genuinely so hard to decide between the two killer cosmetics. They’re both so sick

jade palm
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made my vote

deft minnow
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The second one looks like something out of Diablo 4, and im all for it

gleaming musk
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the design is so peak

lunar light
gleaming musk
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I honestly don't care which one it is

untold oyster
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i really hope this killer plays well because they already are building up to be one of the most auraful in the entire roster

sturdy marlin
echo folio
tough cipher
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The first killer skin is insane

gleaming musk
obsidian adder
lavish niche
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but anyway, that second one looks amazing

fluid hedge
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Anyone else confused on why we got more killer concepts when we already voted on it? 🙁 The concept before looked way better than these options

west cradle
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I like the part where even the grimoire crashes after answering the two questions.

jade palm
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though, I do notice something here and makes me a little concern on Aurora's backstory

are they planning to make her a follower and believer of the Judgement? or is it that she only follow the Judgement as a way to survive?

gilded ore
untold oyster
echo folio
fluid hedge
untold oyster
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I'm really struggling with the key art, all 3 of them are so good and have something I like about each

lunar light
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the somewhat nun outfit for the survivor is goated too

scarlet orchid
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I chose 2, 1, 1.

deft minnow
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The second cosmetic looks more eldritch than the base killer

lucid raft
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Does anyone know when this update will come out is it after blood moon?

clever tide
frozen kettle
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AAAAAAH IM SO LOOKING FORWARD FOR THIS CHAPTERRRR

tough cipher
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I choose 1 2 1

lunar light
obsidian adder
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Yeah I went for the nun and the second killer option

echo folio
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How I feel about this chapter~

flat iron
indigo abyss
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I still hope they’ll reconsider the feminine look

sacred bane
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the left design did not need jandals

untold oyster
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i forgot, what was the base design we voted for?

echo folio
flat iron
echo folio
deft minnow
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I preferred the stone one by a long shot

gilded ore
balmy meadow
echo folio
violet galleon
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NUN AURORA

sand steppe
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god theyre all so peak but i love nun aurora

echo folio
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Battle ready Aurora vs nun Aurora

balmy meadow
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its like bhvr picked the best elements from every previous design

sand steppe
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i chose the 2nd killer cosmetic

untold oyster
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I think it'd be kinda neat if this killer is they/them, like its a being that exists beyond our comprehension and so doesn't really have a gender tied to it

sand steppe
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badass nun is something we need

flat iron
jade palm
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guys, if we vote for the nun cosmetic, Aurora becomes Taurie 2.0

scarlet orchid
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I liked the second killer design more. I prefer the elegance of it.

deft minnow
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A nun running around terrorising killers would be peak comedy

scarlet orchid
young cosmos
violet galleon
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Irish would be more fitting

scarlet orchid
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Norwegian?

minor pendant
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French?

scarlet orchid
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OH OH MAYBE AURORA HERSELF SHOULD VOICE HER

frozen kettle
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o mah gawd Frenchhh oui ouii baguette croissanntttt

untold oyster
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phoque

minor pendant
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Oui oui oui?

frozen kettle
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TABARNAK

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🙌

quaint token
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the annversary killer will come out before this one right?

cobalt ivy
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yes

vivid root
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wait is the voting out again or is that tomorrow

quaint token
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its today

indigo abyss
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It’s now