#grimoire-discussion
1 messages · Page 46 of 1
Probably just dont know how to implement them more than not wanting to
It makes sense that they would keep things in mind for future application or new ideas.
They could just do what they did with the newest chapter tbh. Like maybe use that galaxy theme as a map and add the blue haired girl as another survivor or something
Like incorporating the faces into the final design. Or exploring the design space of a losing perk option.
The perks i really hope they work into a future chapter all of them were solid tbh
I do too, they were hard to choose for me
Yeah i just voted for ones id more likely use even if id hate to face against them when playing the other role
But yeah can we discuss what everyone thinks theyll add for this next vote? For the cosmetics. Like i wanna know how its different than the appearance votes
Also kinda hope we’ll get blood moon cosmetics for Judgement and Aurora next year’s event
I assume like most chapters release with extra cosmetics you can buy on the release. The puffy jackets for Kwon Tae-Young or the Golden mask robe outfit Taurie came with
This could be that but for the survivor and killer of Chorus of Sin
Yall really voted for that fuckin boon 😭
1 of the 6 perks I voted for won... I feel like most of the perks that won are the more boring of the pairs.
Got everything else I voted for in this phase tho atleast.
I was really hoping for 8-3: Disintegration Loop to win but oh well this one is pretty too
Same
This community apparently just craves boring and uninteresting aura and gen perks
So let me get this straight. Players voted on giving survivor haste and not giving killer haste
Yet that was an incredibly close one for vigilance
I love the blue banishment skybox, so happy it won
Yeah and Im sure killers will get more haste eventually. At least killers will get something that limits survivor haste but its a hex perk
Im feeling that... maybe some people voted with having a specific sided advantage in mind
I dont think killers need anymore aura perk..... unless this somehow counters elusive
Maybe thats what near perfect means
Im going to laugh if people voted against haste for killer because they thought aura reading was going to ve easily counterable only for it to directly counter elusive
I can see legion getting more popular if elusive becomes meta
Elusive counters auras, it’s its core mechanic
Also I’m pretty sure that the reason people didn’t vote for the haste perk for killers was because it just sounded bad and too ambiguous
Even after they elaborated on it during AMA I’d didn’t become any more clear
Right. But we have plenty of aura perks. What makes this special is that its described as near perfect. That it might be an exception
I’d assume it means precision
Such as Vecna’s Iridescent Chip add-on
I do wish we had chosen shooting stars. That was the one I was most looking forward to
Its not the end of the world. I feel like we will get these perks eventually. Its inevitable
I mean. Technically the Judgement is the end of the world but lets not get into semantics lol
God I fucking hate the idea of the new boon so much, like it’s so easy to genrush already now we’re just fucking the killer extra hard just for the love of the game
Almost 2.25 on day one, isnt that faster than last year
What?
Oh you mean the bp bonus
Yip
What did the survivors final design look like?
Yesssss
I just wanted the one with the bandana as the head
Mabye they will add it as a cosmetic l8r
Maybe it'll be an option for the cosmetic vote but I hear you, I just didn't want the glasses. It sounded like an eventual nightmare to make new cosmetics every time with a new pair of glasses, earrings being the one that won is going to be fun.
Not the next one
ngl its kinda crazy to me that the other mori even got 20% of the votes
I thought it would be like a 90% sweep for the burning mori
Yeah, boon won, we are cooked
i already invested in shattered hope stocks
so we're not getting the pallet stun perk...
another aura reading perk is so boring 🫠
💯
no we still could just in a future update
One of my friends voted for the spear mori since it “gave killers a chance to see their cosmetics” which i mean fair but both show the killer some
fair i guess
well yes but that's probably gonna tons of updates later
and it would've been lowkey refreshing if it came it chorus of sin but oh well 😩
i dont know why the big pallet stun perk wasnt added it seemed so much fun
I voted for it because incinerating survivors from inside by stabbing them seemed lit
And first one reminds me of Vecna a bit too much but I won’t deny that it’s probably better, given the devs can do the gore justice
Oh and also because it leaned more into “The Judgement” thingy, bringing this judgement with your own hands seemed a bit more fitting, reminded me of Gabriel from Ultrakill too
Omg, the perks that won are so FAHHHHH
We got ANOTHER FUCKED ASS GENERATOR PERK!!!! IMA CRY!!!
Also, sick ultrakill reference. Buttt i dont think gabriel has ever show he can just incinerate anybody from the inside put
Yeah I didn’t mean it that literally
What came to my mind was this recently released piece of absolute cinema
It’s mainly about bringing judgment with his own hands instead of just using psychic powers or whatever
Woah. When did this apear?
It’s merch
Also is that minos?
Released shortly after Fraud came out
Yes it’s Minos
Is it a poster? Cause i think im aboit to buy it
Something like that, yeah
Also cant wait for layer 9. I just p ranked p1 and p2 and fullycom0leted all of prelude act 1 and 2
Good times
2 of them I voted for
I did not vote for the boon; that's not my fault
I liked all the options for the killer perks; but Boon: Steadfast feels dangerous when we already have Fast Track in it's current state
I pray we at least got the gen kicking perk (that I didn't vote for)
Old ass meme
It was downloaded from internet explorer
internet explorer is genuinely still on the desktop too😭
Want to know where I get my meme’s?
no
Okie. Wonder if someone will be!
Random idea I've had and I'm curious if anyone else would agree. "The Judgement" is a relatively accurate angel and stuff, and people love the RE crossovers. So what if we get a crossover from the Ethan Winters ark (specifically RE Village) and we get Mother Miranda as a legendary. Give her a Mori of her own obviously, her own voice lines, you can have the exile place look like the mutamycete realm thing that everyone who is infected can go to (as seen in shadows of rose) and for a weapon, the judgment uses a staff so what if she has the walking stick she uses while she is the hag? I just think it'd be a cool skin and I'm wondering if people agree
Hmm interesting..
Agree? Disagree? I thought about it way to much lol
honestly with that logic , i Agree
Sure
Would be cool to see. No idea if theyll let skins affect the exile (but im hoping they do or even have it as its own cosmetic slot and just have full body as one instead of splitting it up that way they can have the losing theme also as a cosmetic) the only issue is theyd need to figure out what to do with the spider legs for that skin
Technically if it's a legendary I'm sure they can just.. not have them? Ig? If the legs become part of the Mori (like I want) they can just have her own special Mori.
BHVR dev reading this make sure the chase music is gregorian chants and organ music it would be rad thanks
so is the grimoire chapter next or is it the anniversary chapter?
Ive said for awhile i hope their music has an organ. The chanting would be good too
Anniversary. Grimoire is probably going to be around November
An acapella version of the dbd theme could go hard with multiple singers
yk that one video of a opera choir singing five nights at freddys a opera choir singing the theme could be cool too
I still want a church organ tho
They just have to
I know Michel will cook, like always
how did we get literally the most boring perks for survivor
Wait what perks won
Honestly I got damn near everything I wanted aside from perks so Im pretty happy.
the killer is going to be the thing that sticks with us, that and the survivor character itself
This isnt the channel for it, this channel is for the community voted chapter
I’m so happy we got another boon, I love booning.
I am happy we got an aura perk for the killer. Fitting for an all seeing killer
When the ptb drops later this year I am painfully counting how many eyes the Judgment has
Gen I’m not playing dbd until this thing drops Negl just to build the hype
what if the anniversary chapter is dope and you miss out?
Depends, if it’s buns I’m not even gonna bother
That perk is way too overpowered imo
Setting up the boon takes about as much time as a pain res at 60% so by setting up the boon you kinda pain res ur gen. Gen blocking perks, like Grim Embrace, bypass the boon. So if the killer runs blocking over regression ur perk does nothing. Please I don't want more perks to be fearmongered into nothing before we even get a change to use them
It just sounds badly designed
It’s either gonna be useless or too strong
Is it guaranteed that the new killer will be purchasable with Iridescent Shards?
If its unlicensed
It should be fearmongered into nothing, imagine a 4 man running this, itd literally be impossible for the killer. Not to mention the better perks are for regression and not blocking
Shit like this is why dbd has such a negative rep
Yes
If it works for each person putting this thats going to be ass to play as killer
Hopfully its a only works for one gen no matter who puts it boon
I think and hope it is only works on the gens near the boon and it would need to be moved around throughout the match
I just pray its only one gen the entire match
Cause if not imma regret voting for it
One gen only a match would be a weak perk but we'll see
I just mean if every surv uses it
Like its gonna be too op if can just protect 4 gens the entire match
Hopfully they actually balance it so people just use it as an anti 3 gen which is what i voted for it to use it as
If this isnt going to be for the anniversery chapter then I predict the grimoire killer will be a september or october release
I read somewhere that its the anniversary chapter, but im not sure
I highly doubt it. We arent even done voting yet
We're only voting for basic stuff like names etc. The hardest part (the killer power, killer and survivor design, etc) are all already done and I think it's possible for a big studio like BHVR to make it in the span of 3 months. But if it comes in September/October thats great as well
We already voted for names theres still at least 3 more voting phases
All that stuff is super simple impo, except for the VOs, so instead of june its probably August-September
I wouldn't be surprised if it came in July
I mean they still have to make the stuff for their appearance which takes time to model and texture
Honestly I hope it comes super late. That survivor boon perk seems busted asf
Yeah i hope it only effects one gen even if used by multiple people otherwise its going to be too op if everyone runs it
I only voted for it to use as an anti 3 gen
I’m so upset yall picked the boon peek over the Crows one 😭
tokens for scaring crows sounds lame
and would probably be another dogshit perk too
What is wrong with dbd today? Ive been disconnected several times despite having good internet
I had a 4k and disconnected at the end
Unk on trickster’s map breh
Server have been having problems since all kill comeback dropped. Also wrong channel
Blood moon prolly aint helping
On one hand, I'm sad that the Exalted lost as a name, since its meaning has a lot of depth to it. On the OTHER hand, I'm hyped for all of the ULTRAKILL memes that will come from the name JUDGEMENT
Meanwhile I was disappointed it wasn't the Apocalypse but the Judgment still works
<@&480465015267262484>
@errant sable 🚫➡️ That user is already banned. You can adjust unban timers with /unban user: ID
Guessing was on the “check my bio” dude
If so i was tempted to @ the crew too on them but was like half asleep
I know for a fact people will have Gabriel voice clips playing during montages for this killer
But yeah I’m sad Desolation and Flesh is Weak aren’t the winners since the names (especially the second one) go hard
You don't have one?
<@&480465015267262484>
somehow every time i enter the ban command in another channel it then gets pinged in another
What was even in the bio? It didn't let me view it
i didnt see anything either, but it seems to be a new compromised account thing. usually they contain links to 18+ servers
its a new thing to avoid getting flagged for posting the link directly
Ppl be weird bruh
Thats actually been a thing for years. Think just becoming more popular with more and more servers having automated bots for reporting links.
well of course "link in bio" has been a thing, its just popping up on this discord for the first time ive seen it now
Ahh gotcha
Yeah if anyone ever links someone to a random server never click it guys unless you vocally confirm it was from them on VC since theres discord servers that once you join they somehow insta hack your account. Had an old account get lost that way years ago and ive seen it happen to others too sadly.
@deft surge 🚫➡️ Your message content contains flagged text
Drunk dbd?
:3
Fire
What's the killer perks calledb
Vigilance
Hex: Under Your Thumb
Lay Waste
That's unique names
We know anything on how they work
Vigilance - near perfect aura read on the obsession
Hex: Under Your Thumb - limits survivors’ haste
Lay Waste - increases regression on nearly repaired generators
Okay that's good
An obsession build but the obsession hates themselves
Judging by your question in #game-questions I’m going to clarify that Grimoire chapter is not the next one
It’ll come out either in August/September or November/December given no delays happen
Wait we have another chapter in between?!?!
What we usually get in anniversary other that cakes
Grimoire has been an ongoing thing since July
And other items like that
New chapter, tons of reveals, annual roadmap.
This time we get an entirely new event since Twisted Masquerade has been retired
I forgot grimoire existed
Haven’t you come to this channel asking about grimoire?
Anyone you think need a rework
Like trapper or something
What I think doesn’t really matter
I kinda forgot about older ones
Older what
Grimoires
That’s
That’s the first grimoire, like ever
We haven’t had a community made chapter before
How does everyone feel about the new killer
I’m happy for new perks to release I have every killer in the game
What are some builds you guys might create
If Lay Waste is not compromised numbers wise it’s definitely looking to be a new meta perk
And if it’ll become meta, so will probably Tinkerer
i feel the new killer will be very fun BUT i do also believe that the permanent gen boon is going to be a horrible perk for killers to play against
I hope we continue getting updates about its development and not just leave us in the dark until release
After a certain amount of votes there really is nothing left but letting the devs work on the chapter until it is ready for the ptb I have enjoyed this grimoire step by step but don't want to dream too big
Wdym older Grimoires? This is literally the first one.. 😐
I think they mean older posts unless they were thinking of tomes
Like how the first ever grimoire post was to define our killer and survivor's tone. A supernatural world? Grounded into reality? Otherworldly.
is that what the ptb will be about
when do yall think the next ptb will be? those leaks said one is happening tommorow
We just got a roadmap with when the ptb was
do we know what the outfits from the rift are going to include?
No
What was the name of the new killer that won? I can't remember?
The judgment
I was talking about anniversary, which is in June
The April PTB is just a regular update
do we have the results yet
Which new killer?
At least I assume that’s what they were talking about, since it’s #grimoire-discussion and all
Interesting. It’s an Angel?
thx!
A divine creation that brought ruin to the world
We don’t know much about its lore since you know
It’s in the middle of development
We only have the survivor and killer verses to rely on a storyline so far. This killer is a killer of world's in the multiverse. A first for us. "The divine force brings memories of terrors rendered upon countless worlds. The screams and cries and nightmares of unworthy souls. They whispered stories of your almighty deliverance from civilisation to civilisation. Your reputation preceded you everywhere you went" "Standing in the foyer, you see the cause of your suffering: the divine creature believed to have brought about The Collapse of your world. Your blood runs cold at the sight of the one your people fear most."
I cannot wait to read the full storyline when the chapter is finished
So it’s an angel.
It has wings, it has a halo, but they have never used the word yet officially
PTB will just be for general changes they have planned or have they posted a PTB change log already?
Visually it is something that has clear resemblance of angels
Whether it is an actual angel within the game’s world is yet to be determined
It could mean literally anything
In hinduism there is a good god of destruction who destroys the world before it can be reborn and reshaped.
Can everyone just spam in the future pole idea to change shrine of secrets (I know it prob wont change in a bit but either way its a start)
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=68oaSBeIpAU bro i love how the prototype model is spirit on nurse animation lmao
Behaviour gave me and several other folks in the DBD Creator Program a chance to try out a super-early version of the upcoming Killer, "The Judgment". BHVR set us up to play this prototype remotely and they were also kind enough to provide the raw spectator footage so we could showcase it for you all.
0:00 What is the Grimoire?
2:57 The Judgmen...
So we just basically nuke survivors? Judgement is gonna be complicated I can tell
what
The new killers power
have they shown it?
it doesnt look too complicated, its vecna with curves
Not exactly, just the prototype
Looks fun though I will say that, I like the whole slingshot thing
yea me too XD
Plus coming from a religious family an angel killer is so peak to me
that lowkey does look cool
also its literally vecna again, you infect them with power once and then it can do damage
i wonder if it ignored elevation, that could be nefarious
I see the similarities with Vecna but cmon dude it’s not going to play anything like him
It seems way more mechanically complex
Ngl the killer feels super weak.
people need to understand that with killers like these, the only thing stopping your power is you being bad
thats why nurse is so strong
the only survivor counterplay is tricking you into wrong predictions, theres nothing stopping you from 2 tapping everyone at a technical level
this isnt gonna be weak, but at least this time it looks a lot more fun
yea this
The power looks incredibly fun to use. As an unknown I have to predict where uvx will bounce on top of where survivors are moving sometimes just by gamesense. This killer looks rewarding to practice
It’s not even about the strength level
It’s about how the power functions on a fundamental level
And so far it seems great
I don't agree. The hopeless exile seems almost useless. But this is just a test they will obviously change it later.
Is it 4.4? Or 4.6
Why are sins ONE thjng??? Itd be so much more interesting if sins were a percentage
are you referring to the other realm?
thats a hook state, if they fail to keep up there they die faster, and apparently they can get help from other survivors which is really interesting
Not like it matters at the moment
Will never forgive people for voting against the idea of gaining sin from doing bad actions thruout the match
it should be the more sin you have, the harder the exile is to survive
Yeah but it's not really applying much pressure. As far as I have seem even if you somehow miss the light rays in it it doesn't really decrease the timer that much. And also survs don't even have to leave gens to save them. They can sit to a gen that is near the praying thingy and just do it knowing they will be able to save their teammate easily. So they don't even have to leave their gens to save as normally they have to do that so it wastes their time.
They will most likely do something about this tho I hope
That’s not even that much different from Pyramidhead’s cages
Both sides save time
And both sides cannot use their hook related perks
The biggest issue with exile is that you can save someone (basically unhook them) from anywhere on the map, you just gotta go to an altar, where as for cages and hooks, you have to to up to that person and unhook them
OH MY GOD LETS GOOOOOOO
that actually makes so much sense im so excited
Ok no that’s actually better than Phead’s cages
This is the greatest killer power eveer
when are they gonna show full killer model in game and weapon?
Because survivors can’t be rescued immediately
Probably not for a long time
Most likely when the chapter comes out
I KNOW RIGHT
that late? aw man
Youre underestimating how long it takes to make a detailed model lol
I mean we’ll most likely have the ptb in august
ON MY BIRTH MONTH? LETS GOOOOO
That’s not too far from now
presumably
i hope so
The killer is marked as k44 in the prototype build
what does that mean
Vecna is the 42nd killer
BROOOO 😞 💔
the fact there’s another killer before chorus of sin or did i misunderstand
That’s what I initially said?
We have a chapter in June and after that one (presumably) the grimoire chapter comes out
oh right the anniversary no?
Yes
right mb, those r the last chapters of the year or is there a 3rd possibly
Dbd’s new year starts in June
So whatever comes out in June will be the first chapter of 11th year
ayayay i mean 2026
And what comes after that we don’t know, Dave Richard talked about some big changes in scheduling coming in the future
And we’ve already seen that partially, with this year only having 3 killers instead of usual 4
i see
I doubt it
Its in an early prototype phase
Then again the develoupmebt time isnt exactly clear
Did you guys see the otz gameplay of the grimoire killer?
I have a minor reccomendation. Behind the character portraits, Id like it if the thing that basically says if the survivors are 'damned" to be like a spell circle or some kind of mystical symbol
I watched Hens
Kinda mad they completely gutted the sin concept
Cause thTs what someone linked
and just made it another ‘effect on hit’ power instead of something more unique
If this idea is purely cut I will riot
i will riot with you
Im gonna give them the benefit of the doubt and assume that the current sin system is temporary
I don’t have that much faith in behavior
Because it is that of an option which lost in the poll
Not after the fast track buff and the lackluster blood moon event we have rn
I asked MintSkull about that, let’s see what he says
And again don’t forget that this is still a prototype
Yea but still super disheartening that they’re just like yea so we’re gonna move away from doing something more unique and just use our standard effect application
Dude you’re either extremely loyal or very new
Because what do you mean you’re losing hope after those thing
I didn’t have much left to begin with
Those aren’t even in the top 20 probably
I got a little back from the concepts of this chapter, but now that they’re gutting the uniqueness of the sin effect on top of all the other bullshit they’re doing, I don’t got any real faith in them
I am aware. Like I said, I assume the infection system is a placeholder
Hopefully they come up with something better than just status effect on power hit.
Yea that’s why I’m like this is such a weird direction to go
even as a prototype. Like I fail to see why they couldn’t have made a prototype with the concept we voted for.
Hopefully
I'm sad it's an aimable ability, i figured it'd just spawn directly on the survivors automatically sort of like a doctor shock
What?
The ray?
yeah, like it would be an ability you trigger and it smites survivors instead of something you aim
that's why I voted for it
Yeah no that sounds horrible
That was one of the other options we had ti vote on
oh yeah but it didn't damage from what i remember
I’m not sure what you’re talking about
There was the ray, a controllable weapon and a damage from above (basically what ray evolved into over the course of the development)
yeah I chose damage from above
Why would you assume that you don’t have to aim using this I have no idea
cause aiming's horrible and we have 30 aiming killers already
something that'd smite from above and being unavoidable would be fitting
How do you suppose they made it engaging for both sides
Because unavoidable damage sounds horrible by default
That's a nonanswer, not everything in the game is made to be engaging for both sides
Well, it should be
But it isn't
Oh lmao
huh odd I don't r emember the lower ones there
Yeah there’s aiming in every single one of those
that's a shame, I wanted unavoidable stuff
eh it's just another aiming killer
Skill expression on both sides = good
Unavoidable damage and lack of interactivity = bad
That’s pretty much an axiom
Eh, agree to disagree. Doctor would be just perfect if his static shock injured
so I hoped it'd be something of the sort here, punishing sins etc
I thought it'd be fitting, you do sins - you get punished
I'm very disappointed to see that there's not going to be an option to enter the Exile as Killer.
I understand the concern of how it has the potential to waste a Killer's time, but I feel like there has to be a way to increase the value to make the reward worth it
I don't mind it honestly, banishing a survivor for a time is kinda fun
The way it was proposed, I thought it would operate like a 1v1 ult arena. Perhaps the potential for an instakill or instahook if the Killer wins
The way they're currently prototyping, where it's a hook state, I don't think there's any way to salvage that
is the angel at least 4.6?
We don’t know and even if we did, that could change 5 times before the chapter comes out
I too expected that, but that just seems like a natural process of game development
hope he's at least 4.6. Anything slower is absoloutely painful
With what they have already cooked up this seems like an appropriate power
ngl i wish legions basic running speed was regular killer speed
Dino I’m starting to think this is either a bit or a bait
I'm just a lover of going fast
my clown build is purely about getting haste
Ever since they nerfed purple bottles
By 1%
Yeah but if I had known that would've been the case then I wouldn't have voted for the Exile at all
and also decreased how long survivors are afflicted by the hindered effect
What would’ve you voted for then
This was reverted
I need a refresher on what the options were tbh, they're blending together
That was the most interesting by far, I’ll tell you that
The other ones were something that was already seen and done before
i remember that too
killer looks really fun & interesting, i love how they pretty much have doorman's ability from deadlock lol
it was either like nemi or plague
did say the killer can enter themselves
Initially it was planned
They’ve talked about trying to make it work multiple times but it just doesn’t unfortunately
I agree it was interesting but I think only because I think it was different from anything we've heard before and we were promised that "1v1" aspect, but idk if it's interesting at its core. Without direct Killer intervention, the Exile mechanic is starting to sound like an uninteractive time waster that Survivors are going to hate once the novelty wears off, much like Onryo Condemned
I still wish onryos tv's couldn't be turned off and were always avalible to teleport to
I would love the idea of something like Merciless Might where the power actually evolves over the course of the match to become something different from what it starts as.
Like, if Nemesis actually turned into his evolved monster form over the course of a match and unlocks new abilities rather than just straight-up stat-boosting him
Relentless Suffering's implementation 1000% depends on how it's implemented.
Ex: If it's just something like slower heal times, boring.
If it's something like, a version of Nemesis's zombies themed as divine henchmen will begin to spawn and slowly hunt down Sinners until they repent, interesting
So many of their proposals are made or broken by how they present the options.
For example, the Avaunt! perk could have been super cool depending on what the reward for scaring crows was, but it was worded so ambiguously it just sounded boring
But people did, that's how people chose to vote
Ah, sorry, I thought that was in response to me
If this makes the situation any better, the devs have admitted to have failed by giving the community to vote on the power in such a way
So with future grimoires they’ll try to improve upon this one
I do appreciate that, yeah, but I think they overcorrected and went too vague
they need to strike a balance where people can use their imagination but also understand the practical strength and implications of what they're voting for
Not an easy thing to do, I've never doubted
Well at the very least what we have seems to be fun and unique, even if not entirely unique
This doesn’t seem like another SM and that’s honestly already enough for me to be satisfied
can someone give me some good perks for p1 ,,the first" please?
3rd option isn't gonna happen. Thats just to make you think Behavior 2026 is competent
Just run that one build with turn back clock, agitation, thrilling tremors, and the ghoul perk to increase pickup and hook speed
That’s amazing I love this already
You hit them with that one Omniman “you wouldn’t dare” gif
i only got spirit and the first unlocked, and i also have like 70 hours on game so not that good
Also side note I hope theirs like a choir as part of the chase music
I couldn’t find the invincible nuke
Agitation is trapper, turn back is first, predator, and dead lock
Yeah you do this while quoting Gabriel from Ultrakill and you got a game facing the judgement
Everything will be okay. Peace and Tranquility.
Go buy A Hat in Time. Really, do it.
Wrong one
https://store.playstation.com/concept/10015370/
CONQUEST. HAS. ARRIVED.
Hope you prepared for his arrival, worms.
Pre-order the Deluxe Edition to secure the Year 1 Character Pass including Universa & Immortal.
The Open Beta is coming for consoles, April 9-11.
Conquest is the 18th Fighter announced for Invincible VS.
Play as Conquest along...
There we go boys and girls
Thought this was #media my bad
Have the Devs not mentioned anything about the artifacts we've voted for yet?
That’s literally the option that won, what are you on about
The artefacts moved from being items to counteract the killer similar to Vecna to something found within the exile to aid survivors
Little far off the divine theme but new killer looks sick
would the ptb be of the grimoire? or something else then'
Something else.
so no new characters or anythging
cause my theory was they were gonna realease grimooire soon and then jason would be perfect for 10th anniversary
but with how its tracking along grimoire might be the 10th anniversary
Theyve stated like three times that grimoire is late 2026
So like september at the earliest
I hope people heard about recent info of the killer
Buddy, pal, just say it.
YouTuber’s got some sneak peaks and gameplay test of the killer
Got to see how it’s power works to
Oh yeah, cannot remember everyone off the top of my head, but there was mintskull and otzdarva yeah?
And updated stuff for the pocket dimension
I’m pretty sure… and one of theme thinks they know when they get released
Oh, where can I find the pocket dimension update?
I mean the judgments little realm
Looks like a new Tanya can do with a flash light- gimme a moment-
Two different YouTubers btw
Pretty cool
Idk if I’m allowed to show this or something- sooooo eh
Don't see why you wouldn't
i mean tbh, while i dislike the fact that once again its a killer that is a 3 shot killer it IS cool over all
Did we get any info on if they found it possible for the killer to visit that realm?
If not, I might just play survivor to experience it
Yes… and also they said no in killer going in the realm since it didn’t make sense
Ah. I guess Ill be playing some survivor then!
lol
Honestly awesome chapter. Can't wait for next round of voting
The game has its own charm for a long time with its original characters but I think with these newest additions of original characters this game is finally getting to a point where it can stand on its own without the licenses
Can't wait to nuke survivors with the holy spirit
which perks won?
For killer we have Vigilance - near perfect aura read on the obsession
Hex: Under Your Thumb - limits survivors’ haste
Lay Waste - increases regression on nearly repaired generators
I didn't fully realize how huge a haste limiter perk is
@rose vapor
How do I check which perks and designs won the last votes?
Look into the media past
ts is hilarious
Finally, a killer with a power built in to counter Tbagging
this like the big 3 rules that survs need to follow? lul
They canned this
In favor of a nemesis infection system
Say it ain't so
I know it's the truth but it still hurts
What if they like
Make it so you suffer different effects based on stuff you due whole infected
like you cant leave the exit gates after tbagging
That’s too complicated
I agree that sin should not be just a third health state but we have to understand that the killer has to be comprehensible by an average player
i mean it is though, if you get hit you get sin, if you get hit again but the ranged attack you get damaged if you get downed by the damage you THEN get the chance to be sent to a different area where you need your team to bring you back, pretty simple tbh
They have to tie it to survivor actions in some way
As it is what we voted for
it should be doing actions that arent neccecary to progress the game but dont help injured / hooked survivors
searching chests, hiding in lockers, etc
At the very least status effects for different sins should be an addon thing
but doing generators or opening the gate wouldnt
That’s a different story
it should still have a manual way to build it up for the killer so they arent just powerless if survivors dont do t hose things
but it should have some sort of passive thing too
yeah
That’s also a slippery slope because like it or not but a simple “3 hits to down” system is the easiest one to balance, it’ll sure be no easy to make sin gain work without it
Again I’m all for a more interesting system but I’m just admitting to the fact it’s very hard to get right
Do we know the killers perks?
On thing they could do is make it so the exile plays out different depending on sins they accumulate
Yeah we voted for the base concepts of the perks
Theres one that is a hex which limits survivor haste boosts in some way and another perk that increases regression speed of generators near completion. Idr the third one.
Thanks
and compared to the survivor perks we have coughing baby v nuclear fucking bomb 
Aaaand a “near perfect aura read on the obsession”
what does that even fucking mean
you can either see the obsessions aura or you cant
???
I’d assume it means that it’s permanent under certain conditions
Ah that actually seems like it could be pretty strong then
My theory is that it gives you effect similar to Vecna’s Iridescent Soteria Chip/Clown’s Cigar Box where it reveals obsession’s aura in a short radius
But regardless what the effect turns out to be, it’ll also probably need a built in obsession swapping in order to discourage tunneling
yeah like if the obession changes everytime the current obsession is hooked to a different survivor
which perk?
Oh wait do you mean futrive chase?
I mean EVERY HOOK not once the obsession dies
it changes for every hook u do on the obsession
hmm really? the google search i did just said it was when the obsession died
nope, if the obsession dies then the perk becomes useless cuz u can no longer hook the obsession lol. It's why u cant mori them if they are ur obsession if ur running the perk
jus watched the angel killer gameplay, seems cool but I really hope the Sin mechanic doesnt release as just another infection. Survivors should be gaining Sin themselves, as thats how sin works lol, ppl dont sin you, you commit sins.
Friends Till The End
Also when looking up up to date info about dbd always use dbd wiki.gg
Don’t touch fandom wiki with a ten foot stick
because then it would be licensed
grr
Buddy… this is something entirely different my guy
The answer lies in the question
Ah I see my mistake is my question, the question should have been "Why isn't The Mimic from the hit game Five Nights at Freddy's the Grimoire killer"
The grimoire isn't for licensed killers or survivors it is where the community crafts and votes to create a chapter from scratch to the end
So why didn't they make the Mimic? To mimic or not to mimic, that is the question.
They already said they’d like to do the mimic if they do another FNaF chapter
It makes complete sense to do the main villain of the entire franchise first
when did they say this
During one of the AMA sessions
^
thank you
Hello everyone
Sup anime gal
Meme for the day
Not really fitting for this channel but Richard at the bottom is top tier larping
#media
That doesn't really matter, please put memes in #media
This channel is for grimoire stuff
Richard is great
The boon perk that was added is gonna be nerfed to the ground
Halo x Dead By Daylight
Jega Rdomnai -> Killer (BladeMaster)
ODST -> Survi
Gears of War x Dead By Daylight
Skorge -> Killer (The General)
Carmine -> Survi
Sir this is #grimoire-discussion
Eh it’s fine
Honestly there is nothing more we can talk about the grimoire stuff besides what we do know and for curious minds
That’s exactly what the channel is for
Pls no
😭 this is grimoire discussion
I like the gears of war idea though.. but I think the killer should be Raam
Idk, Greg from Steven universe tries but has made some mistakes in being unable to relate to Steven. Steven never went to school for goodness sake
hello everyone
Hello, I am part of everyone
bro said hell everyone
So, what do people think of the killer post-streamer invites?
So far the main thing I've seen is people complaining it's not what they voted for, is anyone excited tfor the new killer as-is?
I’m fine with the infection esc system they have atm for the ray of judgement, but I think my personal compromise I thought of is if they made it a precent thing
-
Time within the ray will very quickly build up sin so a direct hit will basically fill it up completely. A very brief stray wouldn’t do as much but still a lot.
-
and then doing certain actions within the terror radius of the judgement will slowly build up sin based on severity so they have time to correct themselves but can still will accumulate sin the judgement can use against them for later.
-
finally after they are at max sin and can be damaged by the ray only then can they go repent, I would change the spawn logic a bit so they don’t spawn directly by generators.
Thats my take anyway
It’s that or (and this would buff hopeless exile) that a survivor can only be banished once, but when someone was banished they get the empowered state while the survivor is in exile and for a bit after they are freed, that way the positive effects feel more felt if the survivor’s team mates don’t try and help
If they do the later they could always have negative status effects be applied to you if you do the image’s effects while you have sin
Richard got done dirty being put on the same tier as the rest of them
Feel like richard and peter should be swapped with eachother
We’re not devs or forum moderators here
Also it’s #grimoire-discussion
Sounds like I can’t have fun here :(
Lmao
I AM
Entity gonna Entity 😏
Does any1 have the roadmap for the grimoire killer
Ty
When does ut release,
Grimoire?
Yup
Either August/September or November/December
One of those two releases
Thx
Truuuue
i thought they might like it as its the roadmap
I clarified right after😭
please behavior make the other design a cosmetic with extended lore tying into the main design
Yo I have a good question so I know it's basically impossible to escape the entity but How tf did trickster meet Tae and threw him off a balcony if bro was already in the entity
So here's the thing the entity pulls people from any point of the timeline it wants so it can take Kwon Tae-Young way before Trickster or Yun-jin come to the fog but they didn't arrive at the same time. Kwon fell into the future called a "bubble" of the entity and we just now discovered him and MiNA
The order characters get added isnt really set in stone lorewise
Vitorio has been in there for hundreds for years
Wow this is far more than I expected
Im marking may 14th on my calender
ikr
Do we know who's been in the fog for the longest time? My bet's on the Plague.
No one and everyone
Time is not linear in the realm
Nor is it a concern for the entity itself
plague is definitely the one who comes from the oldest timeline, but that doesnt necessarily mean she has been there the longest
Technically it wasn't in the tomes but an old dev stream from 10 years ago that asked was trapper the first killer chosen by the entity and they said "That original killer was bad at their job and is probably in the void now." It makes me smile trying to think of what qualifies being bad. A friendly killer? Someone that barely or never got sacrifices or put people on hooks.
Ah, makes sense
Is there a good source for learning the lore of dbd? I don't have it in me to bother reading through all the tomes and character info.
Just a quick one today, eh?
00:00:00 Intro
00:01:52 Pre-19th Century
00:10:16 The Industrial Revolution (19th C. - pre-war 20th. C)
00:19:00 Post-WWII (1950s-1970s)
00:33:33 Enter The Slashers (1978-1990s)
00:49:57 Horror for the New Millennium (2000s)
01:00:37 So Many Survivors... (2010s)
01:13:16 The Here And Now (2020s)
01:20:35 GOTTA GO TO ...
there are so many good stories in the tomes. i highly recommend giving some of them a read
Tyvm 
Got any specific tomes in mind? I can give one or two a listen/read ^ ^
tome 10 is one of my favorites
tome 12 is also very interesting
Aite bet 
Have you read the twisted masquerade tomes?
yes i have
I love the direction it seemed The Mad Designer was leading the Observer to become a killer. Wonder if it'll matter later down the road
his research into Tryks was moreso what was driving him towards violence from what i could gather. Benedict Baker believed there were a few survivors who memories were being used to manifest her realm, and that to stop her, he would have to get rid of these survivors
but it does seem like he was being driven towards becoming a killer
i also hope we get to see more of it at some point
and considering how much time was between Blights first mention in the tomes to his release, its entirely possible down the line
I mean if 10th anniversary isn’t Jason and rather an original chapter, that would probably be the best option to add
Because he would probably have the biggest build up out of any other character
it would be super awesome for an anniversary chapter
very thematic
Last time I considered him to be a potential new killer was around 6th anniversary I think?
Whenever the blue stuff appeared on the skulls they use for promo art
<@&480465015267262484>
@errant sable 🚫➡️ That user is already banned. You can adjust unban timers with /unban user: ID
Its always the bad and/or generally clueless players running these generator builds.
woops wrong channel
They can keep barking imagine losing to a hag when u have both full loop and full gen rush builds in ur lobby
I wasnt posting this to complain
This is just another person who deosnt understand how Hag works
I brought it up because it feels like fast track is only ever used by bad or inexperienced players
Used by some people half the time that can't even hit the skill check-
I see more and more perks like Corrective actions to avoid that
Which is why they run stakeout
This is the grimoire discussion channel
I am curious if the cosmetic vote will allow us to bring the older ideas for the killer back or are we trying to add clothing onto the impossible body shape that is the Judgment
I still think they should bring back the teacher killer
Or find a way to make the Smasher now
That too
The rare hag player
Teacher killer?
Back when dbd first started they had a concept of a teacher killer with their power being called detention
Could also be deciding what parts are separated into cosmetics (though thats unlikely)
Thats funny tbh
I was going to say its basic knowledge but you joined in 2025
There was an unused killer called The Teacher very early in the game's life
we don't know anything about it beyond the name
Not really unused since it’s served its purpose

It was always meant to be a bone for the dataminers
Wasn’t there a killer that just broke through anything but was scrapped
I mean that was WAY back
Before the game was even fully conceptualised
Like when that also considered adding parkour
remember the Vee one?
The what
There was a honeypot for leakers last year that was a fake version of Vee before Vee was announced
Idk if posting that is allowed or not since technically Behavior made it
If it isn’t going to be used than I think it’s fine
I remember there being a bunch of supposed leaks in general
But none that would tie them to Vee
Huh, now that I think about it
Grimoire chapter cannot possibly be leaked, right
Ah yeah, this one I forgot
It turned out to be a honeypot specifically made to bait in leakers
its obviously still loosely based on the actual survivor that ended up releasing
Couldn’t it be just an early concept
I mean I can believe that
is it?
if this is actually a honeypot its a shitty honeypot because it literally looks like an early concept like what nemo said
Should i get the new killer or the first?
And is the new grimoire killer gonna be accessable with irri?
Only licensed killers dont cost shards. Also there is no new killer Trickster just got a slight rework
Also the grimoire killer isnt coming until late in the year
Ohhhh, Also i was asking if i should wait to buy the grimoire killer or stranger things vecna
The First I highly recomend getting regardless because he has probably most fun collection of perkd from any licensed character
Dangit. Didn’t love stranger things season 5 so I got most liscensed killers other than him
Oof
I spent the entite PTB playing other killers using his perks lol
All three are amazing and fun
oh yeah true lol
All original killers are available for iri
uh
Nice work Mods... 🥀
The hell
<@&480465015267262484>
make the killer invisble with no terror radius and make it long and close range
What does this have to do with grimoire again
Thanks
are there any codes that give bloodpoints or sum
what happened?
When is the glyph visible to killer?
Green glyphs appear when nearby, and have their aura revealed every generator, not sure.
Orange glyphs spawn next to the killer.
The survivor-quest glyphs mostly appear to the killer while a survivor is interacting with them.
Also #game-questions is probably where you want to be.
You speak good words
Ah, thanks, I thought I spoke words good.
What happened
Hello, everyone
hi
Ello moto
Good morning
hi
hi
6’7
Is wglf fixed in ptb
I’m surprised this channel is open, new grimoire vote isn’t open yet
Wdym they dont close it between votes
It’s been closed in the past
We have a new voting tomorrow
Did it?
I dont recall ever seeing it closed tbh
Yeah I never saw this channel locked. The ptb discussion on the other hand is locked in between ptbs
Sweet. I do wonder, ya think the killer will float? Or walk/crawl
It will be 4500 or 9k cost?
All freshly released characters cost 9k shards
I think it will walk / crawl like xeno and float like The first and Nurse at the same time since the legs aren't connected
Its worth buy?
The grimoire chapter?
No no, just the new chapter like Kwon
What
Yes
It’ll be in the oven for like half a year if not more, how could we know
Wait the grimoire chapter, yes It will easily be worth the purchase when it comes out at the end of the year
I got kwon already
Good job
WE CANT KNOW THAT
Can't know it will release at the end of the year? I mean it was what has been stated multiple streams and the ama
We can’t know if it’ll be worth buying
Oh personally I do know
Is it not near end and to release?
We haven’t even finished voting
But we got gameplay
We have voices and music to vote for next month
And have you not seen how raw it is?
This week we vote on the cosmetics
The m2 is raw
Dude
Everything is raw
Altars are just plague’s fountains, exile is just a textureless void, they use flashlight instead of artefact
And the killer itself is just spirit’s model with nurse’s rigging
They aren’t even balancing the power in terms of strength, they’re still trying to figure out the very fundamentals
But! It’s still REALLY cool~
It’d be worth to buy it just for pure aura, besides I do not care how much it cost’s (kinda) I’d still buy it because of how much work was put in it
Its an original chapter, so it will probably be purchasable with iri shards
When does this rift pass end cuz I think that’s when it will release
this is the timeline of the grimoire
Not probably, it’s a fact
Not really a grimoire question but the rift ends on 28th
Ty
ofc
Does the new killer really have a thing to punish survivors for Tbagging?
no lol where did u hear that
I saw a thing that said Tbagging will increase survivors sin meter
i havent watched any early concept gameplay yet but that’s 99% probably not true itd be impossible for them to implement bc not all crouching up and down is bad
They could add it just for when your in the killers terror radius
wouldnt work because of the undetectable status effect
Listen I don't care either way if its implemented but you keep suggesting stuff that has obvious answers. It could just not apply when the killer is undetectable
i haven’t suggested anything tho..? and i also dont care either way… im not trying to be a dick sorry if it seems that way also what you said is my point it wouldnt apply while undetectable that would be nerfing the killer for no reason
You are suggesting stuff your suggesting reasons why they wouldn't add it
im not suggesting, im telling you for a fact. and you said that the answer was obvious if the answer to why it wouldn’t work was so obvious then whyd u suggest it in the first place
I didn't suggest it like i already said I saw a thing saying its happening and was asking if its true. And Its not at all a fact that they couldn't add that mechanic because players crouch spam for non Tbagging reasons that has a obvious answer and its only applying when within the killers terror radius
thats not an answer tho dude, if the killer has the undetectable status effect and is getting t bagged by the survivors then then the mechanic just wouldn’t work because they have no terror radius
So? It not working when the killer has undetectable doesn't mean the mechanic couldn't exist it just wouldn't work in the rare times when the killer has undetectable
except having undetectable isnt rare their are plenty of perks that give you that status effect also if a mechanic doesnt work due to a “rare circumstance” and not an actual design feature then the mechanic doesnt work as intended
I would have no problem with it. I don't care if they added it and it didn't work when the killer had undetectable it doesn't matter
alr man
Nope theres at least one more rift before then
goblin quentin was reborn? since when?
I KEEP COMING TO THE WRONG CHAT
Relatable tbh
Sup nerds..
Here’s a good question- witch one would u be
-# wonder if peps will respond
Good morning Grimmy crew
lol
😔🔫
Pure vanilla
Lmao
lol
Rip vanilla 😔
Omg the scene where white lily dies and he was crying 😭
That day shippers where furious
Who’s ur fav cookie
OMG FR
Mine is eternal sugar I have her max and made her a shrine in my kingdom🤭
lol
UGH I HATE DARK COCOA BECAUSE HE STOLE MY LEGENDARY SKIN SLOT FOR MYSTIC FLOUR
100% sure dark enchantress can be in dbd
I ended up getting her skin anyways but I still hate him
Omg yess😭😭
I do believe the voting is today?
Correct
Soon

Since when is that a thing
Since the grimoire website existed?
this could be interesting
Whenever I open the page it just takes me to the old voting
When we getting the cosmetics vote?
2 hours 10 minutes
Soooooooooon*
When you go to the website put a "-" between The and grimoire
I see
lol
Nope!
FUCK
The Grimoire opens once again with new choices for you to make!
︀︀
︀︀👤 Killer & Survivor Cosmetic Concepts
︀︀🖼️ Chapter Key Art Concept
︀︀
︀︀Vote now 🔗 dbd.game/4a7HUq6
︀︀
︀︀Join us tomorrow starting at 11AM ET on Discord to discuss the concepts!
:D
OOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOO
the killer concept should be very obvious, i think
happy clown sound’s
oh myy i cant choose on the surv one
I just saw the cosmetic for Aurora
for the love of crype. DON'T MAKE HER A NUN!!!
Lmoa
Nothing is ever obvious in this grimoire
I know right lmao
TOOO LATE
IM VOTING THAT IMMEDIATELY >:P
Shame on you.
Holy horror~ I love it
Ngl, the second cosmetic for the killer is sick as hell
2/2/3 for the win
I’m evil jester
Agree
Brb real quick
Genuinely so hard to decide between the two killer cosmetics. They’re both so sick
made my vote

The second one looks like something out of Diablo 4, and im all for it
the design is so peak
that was a hard choice but i chose the other one
I honestly don't care which one it is
i really hope this killer plays well because they already are building up to be one of the most auraful in the entire roster
Same
As much as the default option is more grotesque and shocking this is more in line of a being that belongs outside our reality.
The first killer skin is insane
oni cough cough
I like the right one more but both will be my favorite killer design either way
Easy vote for me
but anyway, that second one looks amazing
Anyone else confused on why we got more killer concepts when we already voted on it? 🙁 The concept before looked way better than these options
I like the part where even the grimoire crashes after answering the two questions.
though, I do notice something here and makes me a little concern on Aurora's backstory
are they planning to make her a follower and believer of the Judgement? or is it that she only follow the Judgement as a way to survive?
Ooh that's an interesting view, thank you!
Those are cosmetics
the one on the left feels like its leaning into the holy aspect more, and the one on the right kinda feels like a demon passing as an angel
I know right? After reading the descriptions too, I had to choose the one mocking humanity
Ohhhhhh so not the base but a different skin? Okay that makes way more sense thank you
I'm really struggling with the key art, all 3 of them are so good and have something I like about each
the somewhat nun outfit for the survivor is goated too
I chose 2, 1, 1.
The second cosmetic looks more eldritch than the base killer
Does anyone know when this update will come out is it after blood moon?
Agreed. I went for the nun cosmetic.
AAAAAAH IM SO LOOKING FORWARD FOR THIS CHAPTERRRR
I choose 1 2 1
FRFR
me too🤝
the other option is really cool as well but we don‘t have a nun yet
Yeah I went for the nun and the second killer option
How I feel about this chapter~
Am I the only one who can’t vote for this
I still hope they’ll reconsider the feminine look
the left design did not need jandals
i forgot, what was the base design we voted for?
probably not the only one but I had no issues with my votes
They put flip flops for her 😭
Being of light instead of stone
I preferred the stone one by a long shot

this is the best design that has ever come out of this grimoire ngl
I cannot lie I love it so much
NUN AURORA
god theyre all so peak but i love nun aurora
Battle ready Aurora vs nun Aurora
its like bhvr picked the best elements from every previous design
i chose the 2nd killer cosmetic
I think it'd be kinda neat if this killer is they/them, like its a being that exists beyond our comprehension and so doesn't really have a gender tied to it
badass nun is something we need
Sameee, it looks so cool
guys, if we vote for the nun cosmetic, Aurora becomes Taurie 2.0
I liked the second killer design more. I prefer the elegance of it.
A nun running around terrorising killers would be peak comedy
I pray she has a Scottish accent 
Then she ain't getting no cosmetics 😭
Irish would be more fitting
Norwegian?
French?
OH OH MAYBE AURORA HERSELF SHOULD VOICE HER
o mah gawd Frenchhh oui ouii baguette croissanntttt
oui oui
Putain
phoque
Oui oui oui?
the annversary killer will come out before this one right?
yes
Yup
wait is the voting out again or is that tomorrow
its today
It’s now

