grimoire-discussion

[marsh imp]

I agree!

[dusk gull]

12 seconds for Blessing, if it takes 1.5 seconds to stop then you've already bought half your time back in essence.
1.5 x 4 is 6. In that time you got 6 seconds of Survivor Time. If it take the killer more than 1.5 seconds to go to the boon (spoiler alert: It usually does) then you've officially started gaining time for your team.

[sleek acorn]

Does anyone know where to vote

[gaunt dawn]

pinned above

[sleek acorn]

Ok thanks

[fading elbow]

riiight so use toth and haunted grounds and survivors practically cant place any good boons and waste a shit ton of time to do so too

dirty little combo if boons become overused

and then throw in a hex you like for good measure, maybe even just plaything to really fill out those slots

72 second blessing on a hexed totem

[dusk gull]

Oh boy, playing half-perkless because Survivor totem perks must be reusable.

[fading elbow]

you could literally just use toth and plaything an already good combo to make boons entirely unusable

and thats not being half perkless

[dusk gull]

I mean fair, Plaything is one of the very few Hex perks I don't utterly despise.

[fading elbow]

not every single match is going to go your way, not everything you plan for is going to happen that way its just how it is

on another note II dont know if I wanna p100 a killer or a survivor for this bloodmoon

[dusk gull]

I've always said Boons were a bad idea, even when they announced them way back in the day. CoH kinda set that opinion in stone lol

[fading elbow]

circle of healing should be 70% and it should apply to all healing thats what I think about it

maybe 60%

[gaunt dawn]

I remember back when circle of healing just straight up let you pick yourself up and heal yourself

[fading elbow]

I dont think it let you pick yourself up

[gaunt dawn]

yes it did

[fading elbow]

it just gave you 100% self care

[marsh imp]

Hi @gaunt dawn! 👋🏻

[fading elbow]

yeah no I just checked all the versions of CoH none say anything about recovering yourself from the dying state

[marsh imp]

Was someone thinking of Jonah's Perk? 🤔

Boon: Exponential?

[dark fossil]

Wtf

[pallid thorn]

They lowk should make the chapter for Uncs

[gaunt dawn]

we had plenty of chapters

[exotic ember]

wait is the voting open right now? for killer mori?

[gaunt dawn]

yes

[somber kelp]

What Mori are yall voting?

[gaunt dawn]

light

[exotic ember]

holy that one that you pick and the bottom one looks insane they all do but dam thats brutal

[gaunt dawn]

HERETICS SHALL FEEL THE WRATH OF THE LIGHT

[exotic ember]

GUYS ARE WE PICKING THE BOTTOM ONE IT SPLITS THEM IN HALF

[gaunt dawn]

I know I am

The legs thing just seems so.... mortal

and boring IMO

I hope taurie gets a skin for this chapter. I hope we get a whole rift

Maybe throw in some of the options that didnt make it for grandma

[wraith onyx]

And the alternate killer for the people who wanted it just so their happy 😂

[marsh imp]

Another day! Another blocked Bot.

[winged comet]

It was weird how old that bots' account was

[gaunt dawn]

Another skin sure, but another killer? I dont think its possible

Killer should get a more "corrupted and fleshy" version skin

[wraith onyx]

That's what I meant, add the loser of the 2 choices got the killer concept as a legendary rift cosmetic

[wraith onyx]

What bot is being blocked??

[wraith onyx]

What bot?

[fresh tide]

I feel like the survivor crow perk would be interesting. We already have perks that keep gen progress but only for temporary.

We don’t have a survivor crow perk so I’d like to see what they can do with it.

[half kraken]

Is voting closed already??? Its not letting me or my housemates vote

[astral plinth]

I wish, I never liked the spider legs. I preferred the more biblically accurate version with tendrils instead

[marsh imp]

You may have already blocked them.

[wraith onyx]

The other silhouette with wings, and not the big fat head right?

[wraith onyx]

Maybe, but I don't think I have anyone blocked tbh lol

[marsh imp]

Hey! I will not hear you insult the Big Head! 😭

[astral plinth]

Yess

[wraith onyx]

It was bad bro, especially for divine theme

[wraith onyx]

Yeah that's what I originally voted for, but I still think the spider-like legs are a good design

[winged comet]

I think that it's one vote per Wi-Fi, so you may need to switch to mobile data on phone

[half kraken]

My brother tried, still no go

[modest fable]

new grimmy is cool! I love voting in that funny book

[neon escarp]

what mori is the most popular? i chose the Light one

[royal knot]

100% the light one

It's the one I hear the most about

[marsh imp]

I picked the Light one.

[neon escarp]

i mean id rather have a survivor exploding from the inside rather than impaled and burned

[wary kiln]

yea

Ngl I think the best perks for the killer are Vigilance, Hex: Under Your Thumb and Lay Waste

and the strongest for survs are Fruits of Your Labour, What Goes Around and Boon: Steadfast(This would fucking break the game)

[royal knot]

While I think survivors still deserve new and strong perks, otherwise nobody would use them
I feel like in this meta, with our current gen times
I don't think another permanent gen progress perk is something that should happen
Especially after the buff to Fast Track

And while the concept of a new and unique perk, with the crow scare mechanic. I know it won't get picked because the other will most likely end up more overpowered and meta

[median tree]

Killer Mori: Impale the Sinner
K Perk 1: Vigilance
K Perk 2: Hex: Under your Thumb
K Perk 3: Desolation
Exile: Ethereal Realm
S Perk 1: Shooting Stars
S Perk 2: Salvation's Cry
S Perk 3: Boon: Steadfast
I chose the logo with the star in the O.

i just thought these perks better reflected the stories that are developing amongst the names and designs.

[royal knot]

You are the first person I've seen that has chosen impale

[median tree]

As someone with a background in animation I just thought it felt more cinematic.

Thats all

[royal knot]

https://tenor.com/view/general-kai-kai-the-collector-kung-fu-panda-it's-too-much-gif-2713700709915856389

[wary kiln]

I do wish the crow scare one gets picked, I'm done of being gen rushed cause I didn't bring a full slowdown build

[wary kiln]

This is going to be peak

[marsh imp]

I really wish they'd just let us pick any 3 from the 6.

[wary kiln]

I think that we already have enough impale like moris

[wary kiln]

May be too lazy to code

[royal knot]

We did sort of just get one this update, with MiNA

Also I think stabbing them with the claws would be a bit too similar to part of Dredge's mori

[tough cipher]

Only reason I didn’t pick vigilance is cause of object of obsession

[echo swift]

i can't choose which mori they both look sick

[noble hornet]

Why is everybody voteing on that boon

[dark fossil]

Because apparently we don’t have enough Generator perks…

Like, did fast track not just get a buff???

Permanent progress Fast Track is already busted. Now we have this bullshit…

[noble hornet]

Yeah, thats so sad, we really need more crows perks because aside from spies frkm the shadow, Languin touch and this studip invocation, like 3 perks

[dark fossil]

We really do need more crow perks lol

[vague galleon]

Guys what does run down the sinner totem perk on killer mean?? Is it a boon for killer it's not a hex

[dark fossil]

It is a hex

[marsh imp]

Because they want what's strongest. 🫥

[dark fossil]

Would it not be if it’s a totem perk?

[dark fossil]

Because, as I’ve said, we apparently don’t have enough generator perks

[marsh imp]

I did not vote on it. I voted on Avaunt.

[noble hornet]

Love that perk fr

[marsh imp]

Also, survivors have nothing if they disturb crows.

[marsh imp]

The only part I loved was the total decapitation.

But still, thematically it didn't sell me on it.

[royal knot]

It's the safer option for a meta perk

@warped rapids damn thing won't let me ping crew on this

[marsh imp]

Why the hell are we getting xxx bots on this channel? 😭

[noble hornet]

Yeah, but it will be very unhealthy for game, and i hope will be nerfed immedently

[royal knot]

They posted it in every channel, they've been banned

[marsh imp]

Thank goodness.

[dark fossil]

Can we delete this message too?

[terse sorrel]

in terms of mori whiuch one yall like more?

[wanton grove]

not sure on what to vote here tbh

left is cool but i dont think it fits dbd much

[fickle scarab]

The beautiful sky fits the theme far better

Part of the premise is beautiful yet horrifying

[wanton grove]

mhm

[fickle scarab]

Theres also like, a sense of oppression with the eye in they sky

[wanton grove]

im glad we are getting an at least somewhat unique chapter logo, i feel like the past logos have been so bland and corporate

[fickle scarab]

That simple example art honestly works as a piece of art on its own

[wanton grove]

you cannot tell me the fnaf chapter logo is the best they couldve come up with 😭

[willow swift]

Can anyone explain what the crow perk would even do? All behavior wrote was that you get rewarded for disturbing crows… what’s even is the reward?

[neon escarp]

what is this?

i choose the first one, is it supposed to be the color scheme for Judgement?

[willow swift]

What does the crow perk even do?😭

[willow swift]

My hypothesis is that it may be related to the mori. In both of the voting options theres like a blank square in the sequence of the scenes occurring in the mori. I think the killer may be showing this to
The survivor before killing them

It’s kinda like if Cthulhu broke your mind or something

[fickle scarab]

Its for the alternate world you can send the survivors too via your power

[neon escarp]

ohh i see

[neon escarp]

whats their power as of now?

[fickle scarab]

Has a damaging ranged attack, which is a vertical pillar of light that moves forward from where where you use the attack. Survivors can accumulate different forms of "sin" as a result of preforming particular actions durring the trial, and accumulate more sin through interacting with what is vaguely described as divine artifacts. Upon accumulating enough sin, they are teleported to another realm (similar to the void from the halloween event) where they must collect stuff while avoiding pillars of light everywhere in order to escape it. Being sent to the realm counts as a hook state, and any time you get hit by an obstacle in the realm it subtracts from your hook timer.

The designers are also experimenting with the idea of the killer having the option to enter the realm

The main thing theyve been updating us on is their work on the ranged attack so far.

[neon escarp]

were did you saw this

also i feel its just a better First

and lowk this perk is goated

[marsh imp]

Goodnight chat. 😴

[fickle scarab]

The second one rewards slugging in the best way possible though

[rancid zodiac]

Does anyone wanna play dbd with me im a dbd veteran 8k+ hours on dbd looking for people to chill with on custom or friends for anything on other playforms

[fast dove]

don't you mean "worst way possible"? pretty sure slugging is seen as distasteful if the survivors weren't already using underhanded strategies

[fickle scarab]

eye for an eye as they say

Theres few killers that truly benefit from slugging excessively regardless

[willow swift]

That’s actually really really cool

So you go to this realm instead of being hooked? If so that’s nice cause being on a hook is the most boring thing in this game to me

[fickle scarab]

Yeah its pretty interesting. You also don't rely on your fellow survivors to unhook you, and have to work for it yourself

[willow swift]

So you’re “unhooked” after you get enough of the items? Also will the killer still be able to use hooks or is it like pyramid head where there are hooks but then there’s this alternative way of “hooking” someone

[fickle scarab]

We don't know the specifics yet

Last we'd heard about it they were still in the basic testing phase

[astral plinth]

It's the aesthetic for the realm where the killer can send you

[fickle scarab]

https://fxtwitter.com/DeadbyDaylight/status/2021691210612854911?s=20

the concept for the ranged attack shown in this post was scrapped just ignroe it

They went through two scrapped variations of the attack before settling on the final one.

[astral plinth]

Apparently this was discarded according to someone

[fickle scarab]

They may have and I just forgot

[astral plinth]

which in imo is good because how are you supposed to survive the killer, survive the rays and do whatever objective you gotta do to escape

[fickle scarab]

Theres also little point in it

Its effectively just face camping and tunneling combined

[astral plinth]

From what I saw here and there it's not a hex. I imagine it'll work like Thrill Of The Hunt so the more totems still standing the more haste you get or probably tokens too

[fickle scarab]

its vague

Just "totem perk". As I recall, on the stream they said that we are voting on the base concepts of the perks before conditionals and balancing are applied.

I picture it as batteries included but for totems which would be funny

[gaunt dawn]

I mean, the mood of dbd has changed a lot over time, we have dracula and it spawns draculas castle outside.

widening the definition of what makes something horror is a good thing

[gaunt dawn]

yet they CAN help by praying. So it sets up an interesting premise

[tropic willow]

Fuck sluggers

Such an asshole tactic

[fickle scarab]

Cant blame a Hag or Twins for doing it as just dickheads tbo

[modest gull]

Best way to play since now killers r getting punished for hooking lol.

[fickle scarab]

Bug brain solution is engame build

[wise birch]

I'm 99% sure this is gonna win so I'm wondering how they're gonna do this

there's very little dismemberment in dbd, the only one that comes to mind is clown and krasue

[modest gull]

Oni too he pulls out survivors tongue.

[primal halo]

Reddit is losing their mind, over the "permanent progression" of gens?

[modest gull]

?

[random locust]

do they not know its a boon perk and boons are loud as hell

[tiny lintel]

what does the galaxy vs sky killer exile thing mean idgi

[hollow ruin]

have they never played enough to have a brand new part and perks like fast track? people will complain about anything unique and i’m a killer main and even i voted for that

also sables invocation perk.

[meager bronze]

HEAR ME OUT! THE GRIMOIRE FIRST MORI IF THEY HAVE ALOT OF SIN, THE SECOND ONE IF THEY DONT

[fickle scarab]

Part of the killer's power is an alternate hook state where the survivor is sent to another realm (like the void in halloween events) where they must do objective before they can escape and effectively unhook themselves. Fucking up results in hook time being reduced.

That exile thing is use voting on the visual aesthetic of that realm.

[meager bronze]

I still chose the first mori

Hear ME OUT for the killers mori ! THE GRIMOIRE FIRST MORI IF THEY HAVE ALOT OF SIN, THE SECOND ONE IF THEY DONT

[fickle scarab]

Ive been for utilizing all the options in some way before but not really here

[meager bronze]

Wdym

[fickle scarab]

Doesnt really work

Or make much sense.

[meager bronze]

Like a Condemned

Like The Onryō’s or Executioners.

[hollow badger]

nah the 2nd mori looks way cooler

[wary oar]

objectively incorrect

[patent pumice]

Is the voting already done? : (

[hollow ruin]

i’m not sure i alr voted yesterday but if you go to the website to vote and it says it’s over than you’ll know

[echo folio]

This round of voting ends March 23 at 1 PM Eastern Time

[unborn heron]

It could be my phone, but the final page where we vote on the title font just keeps crashing.

[topaz linden]

I hope they go for the other one 😭

[gaunt dawn]

Ive noticed each update and each new character or skin does things previous ones never had before.

Dracula, chuckles even deathslinger all brought unique things to the game that has never been done before. Just look how simple the original 3 are both mori and power wise compared to the newer ones

The single eye in the sky looks intimidating

[vagrant terrace]

#ac-commands

[haughty rivet]

God I'm already dreading that generator boon

It would've been a better vote if the crow perk actually explained what the reward for scaring crows was

but I fear it'll be a slam dunk for permanent gen progress

[marsh imp]

Another reason I chose this is because it fits the Reverence Ascended Badge and Banner.

[marsh imp]

I too voted for Avaunt!

[marsh imp]

Poor Dwight. Not only is he being killed, but he's lost his left arm almost entirely.

[tropic willow]

Thats how the last voting was most the time too. Its some coding error with their page for it

[unborn heron]

Ah. Ty.

[tropic willow]

Anyone else voting for the more kinda eldritch void sorta design for the Exile?

[marsh imp]

I voted for the other one.

[tropic willow]

Damn

[gaunt dawn]

Same. Looks pretty though

[tropic willow]

Idk i just didnt like the lighter one. The exile can give you hook states so i feel like its more appropriate for it to kinda give you dread as opposed to “oh look pretty.”

The endless void of the cosmic look gives me that more than what’s essentially just heaven with an wye sun

[gaunt dawn]

Ever play the end of Zelda majoras mask?

[tropic willow]

Nope

I dont play Zelda tbh only one i did was ocarina

[gaunt dawn]

Ever watched promised neverland?

Beautiful, light and pristineness can absolutely be terrifying

[tropic willow]

Nope havent seen that either

These were my votes

[gaunt dawn]

Sometimes a jarring dichotomy is more terrifying than straight old "spooky, dark colors, eldritch beast, ugly monster, blood splatters"

[astral mantle]

Is anyone having problems voting? I can’t choose any option it just chooses for me and won’t let me change it.

[echo folio]

Are you voting on mobile or computer? I had zero issues on my computer with any of the votes this round

[tropic willow]

I had zero issues on mobile

[echo folio]

We voted on the opposite of everything but Boon Steadfast. United by the concept of the boon too good to pass up

[marsh imp]

🙏🏻

[white turtle]

yo wait thats cool as hell

[tropic willow]

United on the fact we desperately need an anti 3 gen perk lol

[tropic willow]

Oh thank god ive been saying that i wanted that in this channel for awhile

At least we get some type of androgyny to them. I was hoping for such with the appearance too but oh well

[tropic willow]

I like this idea

[marsh imp]

I'm so happy Blasphemous acts is still here. 😀

[tropic willow]

Huh

[marsh imp]

They said that Blasphemous Acts is still in the Grimoire Chapter! 😀

@tropic willow

[tropic willow]

Ah ok

Didnt know they were ever considered to not be implemented since we voted for them

[marsh imp]

No we didn't.

[tropic willow]

Thought that was what won?

What won then that round?

[marsh imp]

I thought it was Artifacts that won. 🤔

[tropic willow]

This saddens me. I wanted a giant gothic cathedral with like alchemy equipment all over

Thought that was the point of the survivor mood board vote

Petition to add another vote phase focused on making a map

[marsh imp]

Nope.

[tropic willow]

I still like to think shes a fortune teller of sorts

[marsh imp]

I will now HATE if Boon Perk wins.

[unborn heron]

Is it just me, or do the choices for Killer perks just seem like a cure to Bully Squads or a new way for a Killer to bully? Imaging running those on like Ghostface or Myers.

[astral plinth]

Definitely glad I didn't go for that one 😭

Cause I only ever find crows in dead zones

[tropic willow]

They could of said that in the vote to at least make the votes closer hope we get it in the future thi

[clever pivot]

All these perks seem kinda mid for surv. I may just need to seem them in action I guess

[digital hill]

and thats supposed to be a bad thing?

[leaden spruce]

And that is a good thing to get out of Deadzones then, no?

[astral mantle]

Computer. It won’t let my boyfriend do it either, both pc.

[tropic willow]

If they become a staple of EVERY build yes if just become meta no

[tropic willow]

Its an issue with the site soemtimes works sometimes doesnt happened a lot with the previous vote phase too

I really hope we get these losing perks too for a later survivor/killer since honestly all the perks seem pretty good tbh

[dull flame]

oh so thats what it was

they really wanted to add some haste perks for both sides lmao

[clever pivot]

I had to do it off WiFi on my phone

[astral plinth]

i guess it would depend on which killer you're up against

[unborn heron]

I mean, to be fair, it may help turn the tides and have the Killer be on level as good Survivors.

[tropic willow]

So are you my twin?

[echo folio]

Tbf we've been asking for haste perks for a while now

Shocked we didn't have a proposal for a invocation

[clever pivot]

Omg twinssss

[tropic willow]

Invocation: GTFO of there.

[astral mantle]

Thank you!

[dull flame]

invocations kinda suck, if they wanna get back at those they should probably do a little reworking

a perk that needs you to spend that much time in the basement and then leaves you broken for the entire game can do a cool gimmick, but if you do too many of those it doesnt work well

so if invocation is to be a category like it currently is, they should prolly change how it works yea

[echo folio]

How can we say they suck when we only have two invocations atm. It's too early to tell. People had no faith in boons back in the day now look at how often we get them

[dull flame]

i mean totems arent the same thing are they?

they dont take as long, they have a limited range, theres multiple in the map and they can be snuffed

if youre found in the basement the game is over, and even if you get the effect the broken is still a permanent downside

and if basement becomes a common location due to there being too many invocation perks, then theyre kind of all nerfed at the same time

[echo folio]

Invocations used to take 2 minutes and did not enough now they're helpful and a minute long if you're alone

[dull flame]

hmm

yea i cant judge the balance

i just feel that its too gimmicky for there to be multiple

[static tinsel]

Invocations need fair balance

And seeing the killer's aura for 2 seconds if they disturb a crow is not worth the permanent injury

[echo folio]

I agree it needs adjustments

[dull flame]

and the time spent down there

[echo folio]

The time isn't a problem anymore

[calm rain]

My turn ::3

[echo folio]

Me next~ Killer perks: Run down the Sinner, Hex: Under your thumb, Lay Waste. Survivor perks: Fruits of your labor, What goes around, Boon: Steadfast

[neon sierra]

What goes around just seemed like the most unique thing to pick

[midnight summit]

It could be such a good bully perk though. Not sure I want it D:

[fickle scarab]

I just realized the sky option for the realm is a red sky morning

[midnight summit]

I still haven't voted btw. Too torn on the logo, too torn on some perks, too torn between the Moris...

[fickle scarab]

There's a figure of speech among sailors Ive heard many times sailing myself. "Red sky at night: sailors' delight. Red sky at morning: sailors' take warning".

Generally speaking, when the sky being orange/red during the morning it is the sign of a big storm coming.

A sailor seeing the sky red in the morning is a sign for something terrible and problematic coming, which they must prepare to endure

The survivors sent to the realm you might say must prepare to endure punishment, or are beneath a red sky signifying their impending doom if they do not escape.

[willow swift]

Oh yeah and there’s not suppose to be day time in dead by daylight

[fickle scarab]

you might say...daylight is just beginning

[willow swift]

🤯🤯🤯

[midnight summit]

POG

Now I know what the exile is actually supposed to be

Still a tough choice but that makes senseeee

[calm rain]

I feel like everyone likes “Run down the sinner” well- at least that’s what it looks like

[wanton snow]

When do we see which options won?

[calm rain]

No clue I’m guessing when the next vote comes up

[surreal isle]

[calm rain]

Ima turn into the sun now.

And now I am the shining STAR

Hehehe

[crimson mortar]

Which hopeless exile yall vote

And why is it the heavenly one

[hexed geyser]

the heaven one bc the galaxy one doesn't fit

[crimson mortar]

I really don’t think ANYONE voted the galaxy one

[calm rain]

Heh-a few did

[hollow ruin]

ya and if they did they’re just stupid and can’t think bc how is a galaxy more fitting than heaven for an angel let’s be so fr guys like lock in

[echo folio]

Because this fits the killer lore and theme well

[marsh imp]

Hi @echo folio! 👋🏻

[vagrant terrace]

#ac-commands

[fringe ginkgo]

Why are the survivors perks 3x better than the killer ones

[calm rain]

Wheels on the bus go round and- SPLAT

[final badger]

its not an angel though

[plucky hamlet]

I’m scared about the boon perks that make progress permanent. If even 1 person has this, 3 gens will be significantly harder to play for the killer without remotely challenging the survivor

[fringe ginkgo]

And the hex perks are horrible compared to that, also would encourage tunneling the survivor that brought the boon

[plucky hamlet]

I like the cosmic one because the recent collection with Taurie and Nurse have me itching for a cosmic horror killer

[plucky hamlet]

I mean one of the perk options rewards killers for failing to slug people. I don’t know what the idea is there

I though they wanted less ‘toxic’ behavior

[final badger]

yeah same i picked the cosmic background the killer is shaping out to be more of a higher being false god and i feel like a nice pretty backdrop doesnt fit well with running for your life

[final badger]

the killer wouldnt know who brought it in the first place unless they directly see the totem turn blue from said survivor

[fringe ginkgo]

Maybe the killer can see it within like 16m

[mighty moss]

[plucky hamlet]

Shattered Hope is S-tier? 🤨

[warped aspen]

the fucking grimoire crashed my desktop 😭

[marsh imp]

🎵The wheels on the bus go round and-SPLAT🎵

Goodnight all. 😴

[calm rain]

lol

[calm rain]

Computer: fuck this shi—
X-x

[tropic willow]

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Spam bots be posting

The auto bots took care of the messages at least though

[final badger]

whys that needed they can hear it

[tropic willow]

Thank you finally someone else that agrees

[final badger]

i just dont see how a pretty sky with an eye could ever be more scary than a dark cosmic void with a bunch of eyes

[tropic willow]

Idk people were debating it with me too and im just like unsettling isnt scary enough for me i want it to feel like im in actual danger not a frolic through. The clouds as im slowly getting hook states

[final badger]

people are thinking this killer is meant to be an angel when in reality its just meant to be a abstract false god bhvrs stated theyd never base a killer off a religion thats commonly practiced in modern day

[final badger]

exactly thats what my thoughts are too

[random heath]

got it, thanks

[tropic willow]

Np. Saw there was two and figured id inform any of you incase no one was checking

[tropic willow]

I also just prefer the void since i voted for cosmic killer since i wanted Eldritch horror killer but making it a eldritch horror false god pretending to be an angel also works for me

[final badger]

same

[subtle comet]

Yup

[placid scarab]

The new votes seemed like a joke "Do you want a perk that's pretty similar to what we have? Or do you want a perk that's pretty similar to what we have?"

Just add new models and animations into the game instead of reusing variables 😭

[fickle scarab]

What?

[fickle scarab]

What made you assume they would create new custom models for a perk?

Also these perks effects are crazy

[steel walrus]

I hope the divine light shooting out of the survivor wins. That looks cool as hell

[civic valve]

Permanent generator progression sounds like awful design ngl

[frosty mural]

We just got that with reworked fast track and it is ruining the game rn

[frosty mural]

They do this pretty often tbf

Both the music perks for example

And smaller examples too like tbtc

[fickle scarab]

Wdym by music perks

I know they reused the spinechill sound effect for that one basement perk off the top of my head

[civic valve]

I sincerely agree, Fast Track should be reverted or modified

[frosty mural]

The instrument perks

Bardic and that vee one

[indigo abyss]

Potential Energy too

[frosty mural]

1 hook = 18 permanent gen charges

[digital hill]

fast track = fast gen rushing

[final badger]

fast track is a needed change with the meta that we have rn

gen rushing isnt as rampant of a issue as people claim, the only time fast track could be easily abused is in swfs with full comms who all have fast track which obv is bad but i doubt ur running into these guys every game and even if you are just go with the meta build i already see 80% of killers use

[civic valve]

Doesn't matter if it happens very often or less. It's still an issue tbf. And until devs start thinking of swf while creating new Perks, changes (and nerfs) like this will be necessary.

[indigo abyss]

Doesn’t even matter if the perk is too strong or not

The design is ass

[civic valve]

Permanent generator progression Perk about to be chosen for the new Survivor :

[final badger]

they typically always think of swfs first when making perks why do you think boon perks are so bad now and why boon circle of healing was gutted and buckle up when it was reworked before and so many other perks

[final badger]

its not permanent if its a boon

[final badger]

why do you say that

[indigo abyss]

Take a wild guess

The thing that punishes killers that spread their hook stages the most, what so bad could possibly be about it

[indigo abyss]

Circle of Healing
Gutted

[civic valve]

Unfortunately all I can say here is once again: swf

I understand if you don't see them as an issue though. It's your opinion.

[final badger]

killers dont have to be rewarded for everything and if spreading hook stages like that hurts so badly then tunnel because if they have fast track then they more than likely have a gen based build and not an anti tunnel build

[final badger]

i mean its not nowhere as good as it used to be

plus i think fast track gets balanced out anyways with the current meta thats going around

[indigo abyss]

That’s the issue

You asked why it’s bad design and I explained it

It was like that even before the update, now it’s just actually worth using and it’s a bad thing

[final badger]

thats fair maybe they could implement some type of measure where after a certain amount of times of snuffing a certain boon that totem gets destroyed

[final badger]

well if ur bringing a gen rushing build i feel like you should be confident enough in ur looping skills to be okay with being tunneled

[indigo abyss]

The issue is multiple people bringing the perk

If you spread hooks in this scenario you are majorly fucked

And again, that’s not even the design part

The design is ass no matter how you try to spin it

[final badger]

what about it is ass

[indigo abyss]

https://tenor.com/view/cat-cat-crazy-crazy-cat-insane-cat-going-insane-gif-5752628082217795406

Whatever you say

[marsh imp]

Good morning everyone. 👋🏻

[weak heart]

good morning

[marsh imp]

How are you @weak heart ? 🥣

[dim bear]

@weak heart 🚫➡️ Your message content contains flagged text

[indigo abyss]

I’m not sure if soup is doing so well

[tropic willow]

Lmfao

[final badger]

how long did it take for them to get back to you when you sent modmail to get the veteran role

[echo folio]

I'm sad this chapter isn't coming with a map but we have the possibility like trickster to eventually get a map now

[indigo abyss]

Idk

[severe fern]

they usually aim to respond to tickets within 24 hours

[willow swift]

I wish behavior explained the perk options a bit better for aurora

[tropic willow]

Yeah some of these perks being vague ruins their chances

[fickle scarab]

They said in the stream that the condition aspects of the perks would be fleshed out after they voting

the descriptors are intentionally more general

[willow swift]

But why would they not describe it before voting? Like I feel like most people will choose the boon perk that gives permanent progress because that perk is better explained than getting some random unknown reward for scarring crows away

It’s just not my favorite decision of the devs

[gaunt dawn]

If they describe stuff to intricately then they dont leave themselves room to change things that they might need to during playtesting

[willow swift]

I can understand that, but if that’s the case then they should change the boon perk to be as vague as the crow one

[final badger]

okay thank you

[final badger]

dude both of those perks seem so cool its such a shame theyre both really unique i feel like compared to the other survivor perks i wish they werent put up against each other

[willow swift]

Facts homie. I wanna vote for the crow one but I choose the boon perks because I understood it better. I guess rn I’m living in regret😭😭

[final badger]

i voted for the crows because it was just so unique i know the perk wont be op nor should it be i mean its scaring crows also u can always change ur vote still

[willow swift]

Oh I didn’t know you could change it!! Ty for this info

[tropic willow]

They fumbled a lot of decisions with the grimoire imo. Like just giving us end project survivor heads instead of being vague and us forming them as a community. The perks 100% shouldnt of been paired up against eachother snd just been a pick 3 for both killer and survivor perks and they go with the top three from each. But oh well hopfully the next one they do is handled better

[willow swift]

Yeah I agree but maybe next time they’ll get it? Idk

[tropic willow]

Huh

[final badger]

np

[final badger]

as of right now there is no “next time” they might not do another community chapter like this again this could’ve been a one and done typa deal and as of right now unless bhvr says otherwise it is

[obsidian cove]

when is the community killer The Judgement coming out? like does it have a release date yet?

cause i'm thinking of getting Krasue but i only have 9k shards so i'd have to save up again for the new killer that's coming out

[severe fern]

No set release date, but they said it’s planned to release sometime this year

[obsidian cove]

do you think i should just get Krasue and save them up again

[severe fern]

You probably have time to at least get close to 9k again. It’ll probably be towards the end of the year that the Judgement comes out

[obsidian cove]

okay thanks i'll get Krasue then

[tropic willow]

Just wait till the anniversary to get Krasue for 4,500 shards

Itll be easier to get up

[obsidian cove]

Too late

[tropic willow]

Oh well

[obsidian cove]

When is the anniversary?

[tropic willow]

Just saw the conversation tbh

June normally all original characters tend to be half off

[obsidian cove]

Alrighty then

I only have skull merchant and ghost face left

[topaz linden]

the impale the sinner mori has the chance of being my favourite mori in the game; at least up until MiNA came along XD

[junior jolt]

The survivor is literally just taurie Caine old and with hair

[topaz linden]

You shut your time mouth

[junior jolt]

Ok…?

[topaz linden]

I'm sorry, I suppose it's not a reference you'd get if you were born after 2005 ^^;

[echo folio]

I only know that quote from Gravity Falls

[dim bear]

@final badger 🚫➡️ Your message content contains flagged text

[final badger]

??? that words banned ???

why is the g word banned

[crimson mortar]

I main taurie and aurora looks NOTHING like her 😭

[final badger]

im still pissed that the fucking earring accesory won for her

[gaunt dawn]

Also if we look at what is so far established lore which admitingly isn't much. She's practically the opposite

[gaunt dawn]

Im still tp this day sad we never hot a draculas castle map

[sick sierra]

There gonna be sales then?

[copper path]

chat will he make it

[topaz linden]

That's correct lol

[fickle scarab]

The bots are evolving

<@&480465015267262484>

[tired shard]

Much appreciated

[flint sparrow]

guys what does making a gens progress permanent mean thats a very scary concept

[tropic willow]

As in the killer cant regress it

[tropic willow]

Same. I wanted the purple headband

[quartz plinth]

i bet he did

[tropic willow]

What am j looking at here

[vague crater]

Elite ball knowledge

[copper path]

He did cause he got stuck

[midnight summit]

Desolation could be a good counter for Adrenaline now that I think about it. I might vote for it just for that (plus it's a bit more exciting than a gen regression perk)

At the same time, Lay Waste with Pop or Turn Back the Clock sounds fun

[fleet vessel]

i think it would just encourage even more people to run vigil lmao

[midnight summit]

I said Adren, not Vigil :P

Unless Broken is something that can be worn down by Vigil? I'm unsure. Or, Vigil to get Exhaustion effects faster to get away from the killer faster and thus not be affected by Broken

[fleet vessel]

In fairness I may have misremembered the effect lmao

My poor little Born For This doesn't need a nerf though

[junior jolt]

I mean like her style is just so boring

[fleet vessel]

Give her a chance I think she looks cool

[royal knot]

Maybe the crow perk might stand more of a chance since the reveal of it being a haste perk

Although it doesn't help they decided to announce this a day or so AFTER everyone has already voted

Can't wait for ANOTHER gen speed perk, that'll be so fun to deal with

[vagrant terrace]

#ac-commands

[nova oyster]

@compact glen why did you block me?

[calm rain]

._.

Here’s daily meme so the server doesn’t seem DEAD :D

[ebon needle]

https://thegrimoire.deadbydaylight.com/

new grim out btw

[calm rain]

W rapter

[tropic willow]

Its been out for like 4 days now. What do you think we’ve been talking about lol

[ebon needle]

The old grim

[echo folio]

In fact it is almost the final day of voting

[tropic willow]

Everyones talking about perks. How did you think we were talking about the old when this is the grim about the perks?

[tropic willow]

Didnt even realize we had an exact timer for it tbh

[echo folio]

Put a - between the and grimoire in the site where you vote to get the timer site Toast

[ebon needle]

Speculating

[tropic willow]

Interesting didnt know that

[echo folio]

You thought we were speculating with the same perk names?

[tropic willow]

I was gonna say the same thing lol

[echo folio]

We've never agreed on a names if it wasn't official

[tropic willow]

Hell some of us dont agree on the names even when they are official lol

[echo folio]

🤣 Exactly

[tropic willow]

Btw sent you a friend request. Wanted to talk to you about something non game related

[ebon needle]

Perchance

[tropic willow]

I mean most the complaints were “i wish they explained the crow perk gave haste instead of being vague” that would be a weird thing to comment on a sepculation

[echo folio]

I'll accept and check it out once I get back home this evening. Currently on mobile

[tropic willow]

Aight

[echo folio]

The only speculation I think we did that wasn't official was stuff like me asking for an invocation perk

[raven kindle]

What is a fun build for xenomorph.

[calm rain]

Yes

[meager mason]

Hey guys, does anyone know if the grimoire votes are account based or IP based? I input my votes and now its not letting my brother vote for them at all.

[tropic willow]

IP

[tropic willow]

IP based have him use cellular on his phone instead

[fervent spade]

So do we know when the judgment is joining dbd?

[fickle scarab]

Theyvd said 2 or 3 times now that it will be late 2026

[fervent spade]

Ok I never saw anything myself cuz I haven't been able to keep up sadly

Thanks

[rustic leaf]

nerf bubba

[lime umbra]

So probably November's chapter

[opaque tendon]

Along with probably the most unbalanced perk in the game for survivors

because we all know that one will be chosen

[subtle comet]

Slop

[graceful gate]

hi guys, where can I see all the previous votes and percentages on this Grimoire?

like every phase and verse

[marsh imp]

Hello everyone! 👋🏻

[indigo abyss]

https://tenor.com/view/smiling-friends-season-3-episode-4-dap-me-up-dap-up-gif-4936664253434651775

[craggy lake]

Hey

[marsh imp]

I sincerely hope that, despite the heated debate between the Boon Perk and Avaunt!, that BHVR does not fuck up the results this time.

[hazy sapphire]

Kindly, nerf pig 🙂

[midnight oxide]

buff ghostface

[terse sorrel]

my first 4k slug with ghoul 🥹

I had 1 hook till I started slugging

[empty vessel]

So proud of you you’ll soon be a true ghoul main

[calm rain]

I just got him recently because new map- makes sense

Also got the GURL because paid to win

[willow swift]

I rather hear her slightly annoying giggles than Kaneki’s stupid insanity laugh 24/7

[calm rain]

Agree

[tropic pivot]

oooooh sluging is when u got them down to die

[surreal isle]

100%

[willow swift]

Yes it’s very boring to be in that state as survivor but it can be a really good play by the killer

[tropic pivot]

i didnt do it once, mabye i should if its fun

[willow swift]

It depends on your build sometimes and what state you are in the game. Sometimes you need to slug so you can put more pressure on survivors and other times you hurt yourself more by slugging

[marsh imp]

Goodnight chat. 😴

[sage mantle]

I do like Concept A a bit more. The survivor gets overwhelmed by the power of a deity to the point where he or she gets disinterested. That is metal

[fickle scarab]

Going for bleedouts is something you shouldnt really be prioritizing. You generally leave people on the ground for other reasons, like chasing someone else in the immediet area, the survivor being under a pallet, etc

[restive kite]

Highly dislike your playstyle.

[empty vessel]

?

[tropic willow]

Ok? Want a cookie for being a toxic ghoul?

[terse sorrel]

I wasn't Toxic to anyone dw, I always say ggs

[tropic willow]

I meant the slugging part. Or were they a bully squad?

If it was a bully squad thats a different story

[terse sorrel]

If slugging is toxic then so is flashlight saves, body block and sabo

[hollow ruin]

Lol that’s just highly untrue

[tropic willow]

Not really. Flashlight blinding on every pallet break, tea bagging, and sure body blocking is. But not a single other thing you said

And even then body blocking is only toxic on certain situations. Like if theyre body blocking you from tunneling someone out is the opposite of toxic since youre the one being toxic in that situation

[terse sorrel]

😭😭😭

[tropic willow]

I play both roles so this isnt even a biased opinion

[terse sorrel]

I just said I slugged cause I wasn't getting hooks lmao it's not toxic

[tropic willow]

The question is, did you not get hooks because they were actively being good teammates and they were saving eachother?

[surreal isle]

☝️💯

[tropic willow]

Because if theyre busy saving constantly then they also arent doing gens so slugging really wasnt needed. Now if theyre busy saving were blinding just to be an a hole and tea bagging thats a different story

[terse sorrel]

Nah their gameplay just required slugging lol

Besides it's not even toxic to leave someone on the ground to get saved

The things I have to hear these days jeez 😭😭

[hollow ruin]

“i’m being toxic and letting them bleed out bc i couldn’t get hooks, Geez everyone else but me is wrong and im not toxic” sounding ahh

only four hooks and they were on the same two ppl than you slug with one gen left bc you couldn’t win normally

as a killer and surv player but mostly killer just get better

[nova oyster]

@compact glen ?

[scarlet orchid]

If there’s three gens done and you only have like two hooks, I’d say you’re free to tunnel at that point.

[tropic willow]

“To be saved” actively 4 slugged so there is no saving

If youre going to make excuses at least make believable ones

Cause as the other person said you had 2 on death hook. Could of easily hooked those two to get them out then just patrol the gens. Drop chase if tried to get you too far from gens and rinse and repeat that. Not like you werent playing ghoul the easiest character in the game to patrol gens with

Making excuses to slug while playing a killer that most people dont even bother healing against is kinda wild cope tbh. Especially one that has add ons that gives him built in BBQ & Chili

ANYWAYS back to actually talking about the grimoire the point of this channel

Ngl most of the perks for this vote i wouldnt mind winning. Though i wish we could of gotten the crow and perma gen boon perks

Hope theyll give the losing one to another survivor later on

[calm rain]

Sup nerds

[terse sorrel]

Holy yap brother, slugging aint toxic don't need a whole essay

They no heal = I slug

[hollow ruin]

🙄 simple people require simple answers i guess

[haughty rivet]

hey you're getting a lot of hate when I think you're completely right

if survivors are constantly around you flashlight/pallet saving or sabotaging hooks and body blocking then you're more than justified in changing up the strategy and not going for hooks anymore

I'm guessing the people responding are survivor mains that want you to play by every single rule they have so they can win.

[terse sorrel]

I knew this community was toxic when I joined dw 🙄

So yeah I slugged and won a game, we said ggs and moved on i don't see how that's bad for the game

[haughty rivet]

hell yeah

Get that W, sis

[meager pelican]

I like playing with Nemesis's dih

[calm rain]

That the whole point. I’d rather win than lose.

[calm rain]

Lmao

[meager pelican]

And with Mira's (Trickster) ... ✅️✅️

[leaden spruce]

MiNA*

if you're already making statements like these, at least say them correctly -.-

" NSFW imagery or comments. " (Rules, off-limits)
Also, learn to read

[marsh imp]

Hello ❄️ 🦊

[tropic willow]

Oh ok let me dumb it down for you to understand. If you need to slug to win you’re not good js. And if you think slugging isnt toxic then im sorry for the head trauma you must of received at a young age.

[tropic willow]

If you need to slug as a ghoul then you need to go play something else imma be real.

[young folio]

i mean idm slugging its annoying but theres alot of counters to it

[calm rain]

Oh I mean In general

There have been so many Bully squads… they deserve to suffer as I have

[tropic willow]

I said earlier if its a bully squad thats different

If its just people playing normally then there aint no need for that

[desert viper]

grimoroie

[restive kite]

The amount of hate this community has for no reason is mad.

It's not toxic to slug, its a strategy, it's just not liked among the community.

I highly dislike ghoul but it's not toxic to play such killer? Just because you dislike said tactic doesn't mean it's toxic.

[hollow ruin]

holy yappers go back to gen chat

[restive kite]

Discord servers are for speaking... Either way, agreed.

[hollow ruin]

yep and channels are for certain things

[final badger]

slugging can be toxic in some cases

[restive kite]

Absolutely, but in this case, where they weren't healing, slugging is ideal.

[restive kite]

God forbid people talk.

[balmy ivy]

@solid moon @soft moth are we thinking about giving middle east a better server than the indian one?

the game is now the SECOND most reported game with connectivity and ping issues when we speed test in ookla servers

[final badger]

yes

[final badger]

i think they’re expanding the servers

[balmy ivy]

they said it in stream?

[final badger]

uh idk they mightve but ive heard multiple people talk about them expanding the servers so im assuming so

[tropic willow]

Tell that to the guy trying to flex his slug ss as ghoul. I didnt tell him to bring it here i just voiced my opinion

[hollow ruin]

no i know im just responding to the person continuing the useless pointless conversation after it was alr ended. I agree with what you were saying as a killer main nothing makes it more cringe than slugging bc you can’t win with actual skill

[tropic willow]

Like if theyre actually being toxic idc go ahead and slug and tunnel. But doing it against people that arent even trying to be toxic and doing it just because youre getting out played isnt called for. Idk i just feel like your 4K wasnt really earned if you have to do it like that personally. Same goes for bully squads picking on someone thats a new killer or on a killer they dont know how to play, it just isnt called for in my book.

[tropic willow]

Its against Ghoul. Most people dont heal, same with legion.

[restive kite]

Never not healed against ghoul, don't understand where that playstyle comes from.

[tropic willow]

Its because his ability can only put you in injured state it cant down you. So most people dont heal. I do but a lot of people i played with get pissy if try healing them in a ghoul match

[final badger]

bc ghoul gets a free hit just like legion ur wasting time healing most of the time

[tropic willow]

This^

[surreal isle]

☝️ 💯

[restive kite]

Understandable.

Then yes, slugging as ghoul is just a major skill issue.

[tropic willow]

Glad we’re on the same page now.

[surreal isle]

Love to see it

[hollow ruin]

i agree with this %100 and it makes me sad that killers now just see slugging as a play style bc they can’t aim or bc they aren’t good with a killer, if that’s the case than play some goof off matches and ease into it don’t just be toxic bc you got outplayed as you said

[tropic willow]

I had a killer pretend to be friendly before at exit gate then downed me just to mori me in front of it after letting me open it. When i asked why they did that, they replied “oh the team before me was a bully squad” like whats that gotta do with us why take it out on us instead of the people that actually bullied? I even gave them my item and they shook their head yes for me leaving. I just dont understand people that decide to spread toxicity instead of being the difference

[torpid coral]

I’ve converted to the dark side of just being toxic because being nice isn’t gonna make the community better. Survivors are toxic because they think they are better and killers do the same thing. Like I’m not a bad person if I’m playing with a friend but I’ve had games with one nice person and 3 toxic survivors. Meaning I don’t wanna give the others any reason to shit talk me because I let anyone go so everyone gets slugged or tunneled

[tropic willow]

Why let what the salty 3 say even get to you?

[gaunt dawn]

Toxic survivors cant really hurt you, just dont invest so much of your emotion into the game and if you need a break take one.

I remember, the bad days

I remember the days with instaheals, real infinites, no window blocking or bloodlust

oh and all survivors could get through hatch, bnps instantly completed a gen and the hatch couldnt be closed

[torpid coral]

My mental is terrible in any game. I just wanna play and not get shit talked after I’ve had shitty days at work. So when people are toxic I’ve just decided to be toxic back instead of “being the bigger person”

[patent pumice]

tbf killers also had moris after one hook state and old ruin/pop

but again it's best to just not give attention to toxic players and move on, regardless of what side you're on

if you give them attention and try to be toxic back, you're just helping them

[calm rain]

Alright grimoire uhhh—

What should we talk about for killer??????

……………

HOW TALL WILL THEG BE???

Also- HIP CHECK

https://tenor.com/view/plesioth-monster-hunter-video-game-gameplay-gif-17759949

[gaunt dawn]

how tall do you think it will be?

Also they teased that the person who is making the killers music has a thing for damaged pianos

[calm rain]

:0

Oh wise wizard with future site… blessed be

Wizard! Use future site
-# again

[gaunt dawn]

it will receive overall praise but with some loud people that will say its not what they expected it to be. the blue sky will win and in may we might get a teaser for the next chapter

[calm rain]

Damn- well… at least I get another W- haters will still be haters 😔

👎✌️💣☠️

-# wonder who can speak wing ding

[gaunt dawn]

TVMX?

unless you are talking metaphorical meaning

[calm rain]

This is probs incorrect wingding buuut it’s the one I know

[dim bear]

@sleek dagger 🚫➡️ Your message content contains flagged text

[autumn river]

whats going on

im new

omg toxic

ban this guy

complete this shit

if you can..

[hollow ruin]

bro wtf is ur problem

go be a racist pos somewhere else

[autumn river]

wtfffffffff

[hollow ruin]

miserable life to be this dedicated to being a pos

[torpid coral]

Ew

[gaunt dawn]

@sturdy meadow

[torpid coral]

The guy left already but

[gaunt dawn]

Still need to cleanup

[torpid coral]

Yeah I was gonna say if they wanna remove the messages

[dim bear]

✅➡️ [NO DM] Banned chael090 with reason trolling + emoji and slur spam
(1 ban(s) on record | 2 total logs)

[calm rain]

What happened??????? I just saw the last episode of mark beating RE-requiem

[calm rain]

I’m think like- “has to lower there head to enter door” type tall

[gaunt dawn]

Why lower head, when they could lower their entire body

[calm rain]

Hell yeah ÒwÓ

[gaunt dawn]

also vaults could be like vecna or dracula

[calm rain]

Agree

Where they can like- lofts there staff a bit and the light burns the pallet

[gaunt dawn]

yeah

The only thing that bothers me about the new killer is spiderlegs but.... I can deal with it. I mean, its a minor detail among a lot of details that I like

[calm rain]

I rather love it! Maybe they float? Would that make ya feel better buddy?

[surreal isle]

The spider legs make a lot of sense to me

Makes me think about being on hook for the second time

[gaunt dawn]

if they were more like floating pylons it would but its been since confirmed they arent attached the way I thought they were

[calm rain]

Ah-

[gaunt dawn]

its ok though, I told myself I was going to be a good sport about whatever happened and realistically it couldnt ever be 100% what I wanted and its healthy to go into it with that mindset

[calm rain]

Agree… what I am nuts about is that fuck ass survivor perk—

[gaunt dawn]

which one?

[calm rain]

The gen perm one

[gaunt dawn]

the way its worded is confusing, I feel like its not like permanent permanent, sounds to me it just means it cant be reduced while the boon is active

[calm rain]

I still hate it— sounds uber broken

[gaunt dawn]

well have to see, also we never know whats going to be voted for, for the record, I didnt vote for that one

[calm rain]

Good

[nova oyster]

@compact glen ?

[topaz linden]

Remember, cool players don't vote for perks that seem broken on paper

[bronze roost]

Cool players play comp to not play a horribly balanced public match

Tbf i wonder wether killer will be played in comp

[proven violet]

Does anyone know if I can post my Killer Grimoire based ideia,about the ones I voted around the killers power and etc,plys if it might get seen by the DBD Crew?

[indigo abyss]

Sure you can

Will it be seen by any of the devs? Doubt that, but I’ve always seen this as being for the fun of it

[marsh imp]

Does anyone have any speculation on when they'll announce the winning votes?

[surreal isle]

Great question, I would also like to know

[echo folio]

It could hypothetically be in a few days or they will wait until a week out from the next voting block

[fast dove]

I mean we know they have people that check what’s popular with the player base, if people talk about an idea enough across different platforms they’ll probably notice, even if actually putting it into process is a whole other ordeal

[untold sigil]

the perk choice for survivor that would make one gens progress permanent...
Im praying it doesnt win. We do not need a perk that makes one gens progression permanent, just going to run killer into the ground more.

[final badger]

literally countered by snuffing a boom btw

[indigo abyss]

Gee I sure do love going on top of Ironworks spending 30 seconds just to snuff out a boon

Especially when playing my favourite killer Pig

[final badger]

the only time i see boons as issues is if the map has two stories like youve said iron works but honestly with how weak boons are most of the time you can play the game without snuffing them and be perfectly fine

[indigo abyss]

You just said that the counter to the perk is snuffing out the boon

[untold sigil]

Yea and the amount of time it takes to snuff the boon two to three gens will already be popped. Valuable time wasted because of a perk that'll be abused by SWF teams and dunk on the lower tier killers. Sorry I dont want the game to be more survivor sided then it already is?

The only time those gens wont be popped is if the team is uncordinated asf

Which in that case ur just lucky the survivors are either new or just shit.

[final badger]

yeah if that one boon did get implemented i get what ur saying i think they could do it so like a totem breaks after being booned too many times, but i meant like in the current state of boons they arent really a problem besides on two story maps

[indigo abyss]

Weak boobs aren’t a problem

[untold sigil]

Weak boobs

[final badger]

boobs

[indigo abyss]

https://tenor.com/view/cat-cat-crazy-crazy-cat-insane-cat-going-insane-gif-5752628082217795406

I digress

[final badger]

i agree tho

[indigo abyss]

You give a semi competent team Exponential or CoH, put them on a map with even one good totem spot and, well good luck if you’re not a Nurse

[final badger]

thats the nature of perks tho theyll always be more powerful if ur in a swf

[untold sigil]

Yes but in this case, the specific boon were talking about is actually a problem, and it's more beneficial for the killer to break it otherwise they'll get gen rushed even quicker. The issue is that the time spent breaking the boon will also get u gen rushed unless the team is uncordinated. The fact u have to pray u get a specific map is also crazy. Its a lose lose situation.

[indigo abyss]

If they ever decided to balance out boons as a mechanic then I’ll change my mind

[untold sigil]

Yk I saw a video today of somebody explaining dbd feels more like perk vs player than player vs player and i see it.

[indigo abyss]

But we don’t know if they ever will, so we have to look at the potential perk in the context of the existing version of the game

And in the existing version of the game, this concept sounds too dangerous

[untold sigil]

They need to fire the whole balancing team and get a brand new one.

[indigo abyss]

I’d rather not venture into this sort of conversation

[untold sigil]

Like i dont want dbd to be survivor sided, and i dont want it to be too killer sided either. But id like it if the killer felt like the power role again.

[indigo abyss]

This sentence implies that the game has to be killer sided

Because at their core killers are the power role, conceptually

[untold sigil]

Slightly it should be because the killer was designed to be the power role. But not overly killer sided to the point survivor is insufferable to play.

[indigo abyss]

Well they are the power role compared to every single asymmetrical horror for the exception of like 2

Maybe even less, I honestly struggle to remember an assym where survivors weren’t given an ability to fight back

[untold sigil]

Yea but killer also isnt fun to play as in the current meta for various reasons, which is an issue.

[indigo abyss]

Sure

Counterpoint

It’s never been good, nor will it ever be

[fickle scarab]

I honestly havent been seeing fast track luch

[stiff pollen]

I've only seen a fast track squad like 1 time so far

[untold sigil]

IMHO toxic survivors don't help this either. It's why many people will pick Blight or Nurse or Ghoul over lower tier killers they may actually like, because it doesn't matter if you play trapper, hag, or blight or nurse; at the end of the game if you win or do above average, most of time you're going to get nasty comments. If you try fun, unique builds, half of the time you'll get genrushed. Make one mistake and two to three gens could pop off. And you'll probably get t-bagged or flashlight bullied. So whats the incentive to try any other killer outside of the four S tiers or any unique perk builds when it'll cost u the game and the people ur playing against will do everything in their power to be sweaty so u dont have much fun?

This is exactly why I don't want that boon perk added to make a gens progression permanent.

Because if it isn't balanced right, it'll absolutely ruin any killer fun and variety even more.

[indigo abyss]

We’re for everything that is good fighting against everything that is bad here

Yada yada

[jovial geyser]

is there anyone who actually uses "shadowborn"

[marsh imp]

Yup. I can't believe I'm saying this, especially as I voted for Avaunt! w/o knowing what it entailed, but it's hinted description is far preferable.

[marsh imp]

Anytime I try, I'm reminded that Lightborn is truly superior.

[nova oyster]

@compact glen ?

[final badger]

lightborn really is just a crutch perk tho

[untold sigil]

only necessary when going against jobless swf flashlight bully squads, but other than that u dont really need it

Well, maybe not necessary, but extremely useful

[fickle scarab]

Its also a meme perk though

[fading epoch]

i mean, not really? by definition it doesn't classify as one...

[tropic willow]

Its the main crutch perk wdym

[fading epoch]

it's not a crutch perk wdym

[tropic willow]

Either youre ragebaiting or have zero idea what youre talking about

[fading epoch]

😐

[final badger]

just slug

[final badger]

yeah i would be lying if i didnt equip when theres only a single guy with a flashlight just for shits and giggles

[final badger]

what makes u say it doesn’t classify as one

[untold sigil]

and pray they dont have anti slug perks

[tropic willow]

Saying the main crutch perk isnt a crutch perk is wild to me tbh

[final badger]

i definitely think its a crutch perk but i just wanna see why they think its not

[untold sigil]

I think its a crutch perk, idk why anybody would use it though unless youre against an entire lobby of flashlights. If not, it just takes up a perfectly good perk slot.

[final badger]

i mean tbf all except boon exponential in a swf are kinda easy to counter

[untold sigil]

I agree

[tropic willow]

And even then Franklin’s is a better anti flashlight perk since can counter all items

[final badger]

franklins is still dog tho

[fickle scarab]

Nah franklins is good

[indigo abyss]

Franklin’s is good but the nerf was just inappropriate

It’s mostly about the context around it and not about the change itself

[lunar gulch]

When will the vote winners be announced? Anyone know

[indigo abyss]

No

[tropic willow]

It got nerfed?

[indigo abyss]

It no longer causes items to lose charges

[tropic willow]

Damn

[calm rain]

Lmao

[indigo locust]

did the blood moon update release?

[final badger]

yes

[flat bison]

Not for switch yet

[fickle scarab]

wrong channel

[calm rain]

lol

[indigo locust]

did u update dbd

bc i didnt get any update but my bf said he got a update

[calm rain]

. . . Wait what—

[modern crane]

The boon won 💀

[indigo locust]

"Boon"yasak won this game lol

[modern crane]

That’s the last vote right?

[indigo abyss]

https://fixupx.com/deadbydaylight/status/2037288606767702215?s=46&t=Gm_gXVXQ6r6kkw0jm6T1Dg

Dead by Daylight (@DeadbyDaylight)

The results are in! 👁️ Thank you all for voting during Phase 2, Verse 5 of The Grimoire.👇

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FixupX · Mar 26, 2026, 10:00 PM

[modern crane]

Forgot about the add ons and icons 💀

[indigo abyss]

Add-on icon vote seems kinda weird to me

There’s gotta be 40 options if there’s at least 2 per each add-on

[modern crane]

Yea

[hoary flicker]

What perk did what again?
I forgor

[modern crane]

The boon permanently removes charges off of gens 💀

[fickle scarab]

Oh no...

[indigo abyss]

It prevents regression

You’re confusing it with something

[calm rain]

FUUUUUUUUUUUUUUUUUUUUUUUUUCK

[final badger]

no you only update u shouldve needed was the one that came out a few days ago

[jade palm]

The Mori and exile theme I voted for got in! Yay!

[calm rain]

Agree one that :3

[final badger]

honestly happy the boon won boons are very under used

[sage mantle]

What does that Boon perk do again?

[indigo abyss]

Prevents regression

[calm rain]

Did it have to be this boon Though ;-;

[sage mantle]

That's kinda problematic

[calm rain]

EXACTLY

[sage mantle]

Tho I'm glad the disintegration mori won. If anything.

[fickle scarab]

"A Boon perk that makes a single generator's progress permanent."

[calm rain]

and survivors that can speed gens are now gonna use this perk to prevent the killer from doing shit :(

[sage mantle]

But what if all four survivors ran that perk?

[calm rain]

Pray

[sage mantle]

Okay, maybe they can make this only an activate once per trial?

[final badger]

why tf didnt what goes around win who wouldnt vote for that

[echo swift]

rip dbd then

[calm rain]

I forgot- what that do?

[echo swift]

whoever voted for boon steady fest just know you have room temperature iq

[sage mantle]

Well it doesn't prevent gen kicking aka gen damage. Take Pop for example.

[calm rain]

Oooohhhh…. The crow one-

[echo swift]

out of all perks though

[sage mantle]

But what about the killer perks? what does the deity get?

[sage mantle]

Maybe on release it won't be so bad?

[final badger]

the killer got a gen regression perk

[calm rain]

Chat- are we screwed?

[final badger]

they usually nerf the hell out boons anyways itll be fine im sure

[cobalt musk]

I voted for boon perk purely because I wanted more boon perks. I'm quite happy with people not liking that reasoning

[normal atlas]

Its fair reasoning

[cobalt musk]

It was the only perk I actually voted for that made it, all other 5 I didnt get what I voted

[calm rain]

Ah-

[median cedar]

The killer: Be not afraid beacuse you have the good perks while I’m going to get gen rushed

[marsh imp]

Okay but what if it just causes closest Gen in its radius to be blocked until the Boon is snuffed out? That would mean you'd have to be careful when you place the Boon, as you may just block a gen that has ZERO progress.

[calm rain]

Well… the killer perks are pretty good

Idk how I feel about the fount of the title

[sage mantle]

Wait you're saying that the boon could potentially affect a gen with zero progress? Is that possible?

[sage mantle]

What about the other two?

[echo folio]

For those that really cannot remember what the perks do

[calm rain]

Thanks ya

[echo folio]

Know that like the killer appearance long ago, these aren't their final effects. They left them vague on purpose so with time we'll either see another update or have an idea what to expect later this year when the Grimoire PTB happens

[calm rain]

W

[tacit jolt]

Fair

[echo folio]

I'm happy with what won

[tacit jolt]

I’m a bit sad shooting stars, flesh is weak, and desolation lost but the other perks they lost too are also good so it’s ok

[echo folio]

Those perks may return in another chapter nothing rarely is left on the chopping room floor

[tacit jolt]

Fair too

I might make a fan made concept with them since I like them so much

[echo folio]

I did a similar thing, a tribute to the killer in another card game but as The Apocalypse.

[tacit jolt]

As for the boon I’m happy their making new types of boons, my only thing is I hope they balance it well because this perk type of perk is very easy to make either too good or awful

[echo folio]

Similarly with the hex it could be oppressive

[tacit jolt]

If I’m being real, desolation feels way more like a hex perk than the actual hex perks

Maybe they’ll rework boons in general because of the boon Idk

[marsh imp]

Deadlock will sometimes target a Generator with no progress, so I don't see why not.

[tacit jolt]

Especially since the boon is very good

[echo folio]

I think it makes perfect sense vigilance won as we didn't want a dash killer, we wanted torment, affliction

[tacit jolt]

Also like it’s tied to totems which like is too vague

[sage mantle]

Now how come we never got the haste increase perk?

[tacit jolt]

Which one

[sage mantle]

The totem based one

Because we already got the obsession haste based perk with Furtive chase.

Which is still a goated perk btw.

[tacit jolt]

Probably because it was tied to totems which aren’t typically something your something have especially when already in chase

Plus it makes more sense for the killers vibe I feel

[sage mantle]

Oh wait then again if we did get that totem based perk it would be kinda mid outside of hex builds.

So fair enough.

[tacit jolt]

Ok I thought of something for steadfast

What if it only works up until a point, so like past 50 precent it can’t stop regression.

[sage mantle]

what do you mean?

It just doesn't work if the gen is past 50 percent?

Like PTB Haywire but on gens and opposite?

[tacit jolt]

Kinda yeah

[mellow wadi]

First we get a park that adds generator speed when the killer plays the game, now we get a perk that adds PERMANENT GENERATOR PROGRESS??? What's next? A perk that forces the killer to do the generators with the survivors? Killers are so cooked 😭

[sage mantle]

Okay. So basically it works before it hits 50 percent. But if past that, it doesn't work? That actually sounds... tame.

[mellow wadi]

At this point, killer is going to be unplayable

[sage mantle]

Or you could run an end game build to make survivors feel miserable.

Especially with Springtrap

[mellow wadi]

You know what, I'm going to do that

I'm going to conjure up the worst possible endgame build to make survivors suffer for what they have picked

[sage mantle]

Especially those who abuse fast track. I mean, I never tried it.

[mellow wadi]

Is that that one park that adds generator speed every time the killer does their job?

[sage mantle]

Ye. I never used it. Nor the end game build. But I'm sure it would go bad for survivors if you have blood warden.

[mellow wadi]

What a fucking bozo of a perk

"Hey, it seems you're doing your job, we don't like that here, we are going to make the survivors better than you."

Okay then, give me infinite Ruin then

[sage mantle]

No way out with Blood warden.

[mellow wadi]

Along with Remember Me

[sage mantle]

Sounds fun?

[mellow wadi]

Absolutely

I will definitely be using that

[sage mantle]

I don't normally advise noed. ..... But who said I have to tell ya?

[mellow wadi]

Ya

If survivors get to have infinite generator progress, then it's only fair that I have infinite Ruin and infinite Blood Warden

An eye for an eye, a soul for a soul

[sage mantle]

Or the positive alternative: be friendly killer.

[tacit jolt]

It is, but as totems currently function, a permanent 50% generator as long as the boon is in play is still pretty big, and they could always make it 60 instead if it’s too weak

[sage mantle]

Wow. My brain hurts.

[mellow wadi]

Being a friendly killer doesn't pay the bills (BP)

[tacit jolt]

“We got to have… Blood Points 😈”

[mellow wadi]

Yes

[sage mantle]

That freaking meme. I see what did you did there.

[tacit jolt]

Thank you

[sage mantle]

Although wouldn't you get alot anyway from blood moon? Come to think of it, you could get 5 mil minimum and be sent for it.

[crude rivet]

[sage mantle]

Ehh Ruin kinda not as reliable. It only works when gens are not worked on and already has progress. Hive mind is actually goated since you can know what gens survivors are working on and can just put a stop to it.

[sage mantle]

I'm sorry to say.

[tacit jolt]

Plus it doesn’t spawn at the very start so the likely hood of hive mind being found is lower than ruin

[sage mantle]

Yeah

[royal knot]

Great... Can't wait to deal with steadfast, yet another generator related perk

I really wish people would have chosen the unique crow perk

And not just Boon: BNP

Considering as far as I know, the ONLY PERK for survivors that actually interacts with crows is Calm Spirit
The worst perk in the game

Yeah no, let's just go for a damage prevention perk like we didn't just get the Fast Track remake

I hope to fucking God this perk doesn't become meta

Gen speeds are already way too fast, and now with the remake of Fast Track and it becoming meta, damaging the generator isn't really something you can do anymore

I fucking KNOW what's going to happen
If fast track stays in its current state, this new perk will either have to be better or end up entirely irrelevant compared to fast track
That's what will happen

And considering it's a Boon, I don't think it stands the chance over 'gain free value for the killer doing their job' over here

This is going to end up a shit show

[empty vessel]

Does any one know the release date of the grimoire killer

[royal knot]

It's supposed to be late 2026 iirc

[empty vessel]

Ohh kk

[empty vessel]

Invocation treacherous crows too

[royal knot]

So unused I forgot it existed

[empty vessel]

😭 there’s not rlly much u can do with crows

[fickle scarab]

Scaring crows can trigger things

Languid touch applying exhaustion for example

[empty vessel]

Yes but for survivors

What can it do cuz speed boost eveytime u scare one is too op and something to do with gens is impossible

[tropic willow]

I voted the boon but only because they were vague with the crow perk. Wish they gave more info on the actual vote idk why they did it like that

Id be happy with either tho tbh.

I do hope the losing perks get added at some point though

[royal knot]

by survivor interaction with crows, I meant a SURVIVOR perk
also thinking about it, not even treacherous crows met my idea because I was more thinking of survivors themselves scaring the crows, leading to them getting something in return for it
Calm Spirit stops you from scaring crows
Treacherous Crows only activates when the killer scares crows
Languid Touch and Spies from The Shadows are both negative effects that are applied via a KILLER perk, not a survivor perk

[royal knot]

they did give more info, in the recent Q&A

iirc they said it was another haste perk

I assume you gain stacks and then reaching max stacks you get sprint burst or something which is what I assume they were going for
its pretty meh because people would still just default to Lithe and Sprint Burst

but thats my suspicion

not like it matters anymore, because we're not getting it

and I don't think they should go any further into the design of the perks because people will just end up pissed that they got what they got and not what they could have been given if enough voted for it

I'm not sure if openly saying what the perks would and will end up doing entirely would be a good thing
but keeping people curious on what you mean leads into a problem that Minecraft experienced with their Mob/Biome Votes

you vaguely tell people what the thing does
people vote on it because it sounds cool
the actual delivery ends up being dissapointing
your community is pissed at you for giving them what they asked for, but also NOT what they asked for at the same time

and hiding what they do will cause people to theorize, which then leads into a 'Prototype Effect' like Poppy Playtime experienced

you give people time to think of the possibilities
they find one or some they like
what they're given is not any of it
and now they're mad

regardless of how the outcome of the thing is
good or bad

we're getting a shit show no matter what

[tropic willow]

Yeah not in the vote though

[royal knot]

there's no way you make EVERYONE happy

[royal knot]

and a day after the vote had been given out
so everyone had already voted for what they voted for

[tropic willow]

I didnt know what it was supposed to do till after i voted sadly. They shouldnt of been vague in the vote description with it honestly

[fast dove]

I’m happy we got a new hex perk and boon perk each, they feel on theme for this more religious-ey chapter

[scenic matrix]

I just hope we are not having the boon perk

[dawn surge]

Is that the final vote for grimoire or is there more

[fickle scarab]

I think we are voting on voicelines or something idr

[echo folio]

Right you are

[royal knot]

we are having the boon perk

[royal knot]

do we get to choose what the terror radius/chase sounds like?

like, given bits and pieces
I don't expect the music producer to make 4 fully made songs

and 3 of them be thrown out the window

Michel does not deserve that

[tropic willow]

Curious wtf the cosmetic concept means

Like are we voting for their first cosmetics since we already voted on their default?

[tropic willow]

They did say theyll be reusing losing vote options in other ways later down the line

[fickle scarab]

I hope we really end up with the other design option as a cosmetic

[royal knot]

where have I heard that before...

[tropic willow]

Minecraft?

[royal knot]

https://tenor.com/view/minecraft-mc-minecraft-community-mob-votes-minecraft-community-mob-vote-mob-vote-gif-8124581348335345310

[fickle scarab]

I dont remember them saying this

[tropic willow]

Same. Im curious to see the options tho

[tropic willow]

To be fair they have implimented some. Mainly just the swamp and frogs atm

[topaz linden]

Boring mori won; literally not even gonna touch the killer except for her adept

[fickle scarab]

bruh

[royal knot]

the stap burn mori sounded more boring

we already have a killer that uses claws to stab the victim

[fickle scarab]

I like both of them

I thought the idea of leaving the charred remains behind was more interesting though

[royal knot]

hang on I'm gonna try to find this one gif

[fickle scarab]

Also I didn't think the explosion one would look as cool in the actual game than in the concept art. I fine with the result regardless

[tropic willow]

Was in the live stream they did on here before the killer’s shape vote

[royal knot]

https://tenor.com/view/dr-manhattan-gif-18899941

I don't know the context of why this guy is exploding another guy
but thats what I've always thought of when I saw the storyboard for that mori

[tropic willow]

Just looked a few of the ones i voted for won like the mori but kinda dissapointed the more eldritch looking Exile theme didnt win

Hope theyll add some skins that change it to that one in the future

[royal knot]

maybe they could add certain toggles

[final badger]

same i thought it fit it more

[tropic willow]

I just think it would look cooler imo and be easier to make skins that fit it than just straight up heaven

[royal knot]

also why can't we get both mori's?
they've already made killers that have two of them before
maybe have the burning one be for when they have an artifact
or something

[tropic willow]

Yeah wish they did a kinda condemned mori like Onryu and The First have where if had full sin they can be mori’d with the one that won and the stabbing one is the regular mori

But the one i voted for won so im not upset on the winner in the end

[royal knot]

or maybe have a different mori depending on which realm you're in (by realm I mean their power realm, the seperate area)
considering one of their recent sneak videos with the nurse model had an option to make yourself go to the condemned realm, whatever its called

from what I remember seeing

[tropic willow]

Either would of been nice to see so everyone would be happy

[tropic willow]

Glad to see it was a mainly even split on this tho so were not the only ones that preferred the other over this

[final badger]

what gmod video are you watching

[royal knot]

could have been more 'even'
iirc the Boon vs Crow perk had a difference of 0.28% from 50% between them

[fickle scarab]

Strange wording

[final badger]

it sounds like they want to but at the same time arent sure

[fickle scarab]

Not exactly

[tropic willow]

One of the Vanoss crew’s

[fickle scarab]

Emphasizing that it MAY be used and then describing it as most things being used