grimoire-discussion

[real rock]

judgement sounds scary. make that killer op just for the name owo

[tropic willow]

Another for team Flail or Fail

Exalted, Chorus of Sin, Aurora

[fickle scarab]

I seriously do not understand what people see in the non spider design at all

Its so borring and uninteresting and it isnt even what people voted on the silhoette for.

[fickle scarab]

Wait

I just had a thought. What if both killer designs made it in.

[trim walrus]

I like the wings more

[fickle scarab]

Conceptually they could be two sides of the same coin

Embodying two different sides of the same being's wrath

Or perhaps they are both avatars of a larger being.

[old steeple]

Gotta admit i was tore wirh hammer or flail, but the angelic one just looks so good

And from what im seeing on the dbd twitter and pn reddit the glowing angelic one is currently winning.

[tropic willow]

Noooooo

[old steeple]

The other one doesnt look holy lol.

[tropic willow]

All is lost

[old steeple]

It looks like a pretend angel.

[old steeple]

Not yet, still a couple hours, and my calculations maybe off

[tropic willow]

I just want the rotting torso tbh

[old steeple]

Whyyyt, its so clushè

We already have like 3 killers like that plus a whole cosmetic collection dedicated to that kind of style

[tropic willow]

I just like it

Its the closest they gave us to an androgynous killer as we’ll get for the angel

[old steeple]

Bro this is dbd cord. I DONT KNOW WHAT THAT FIRST WORD MEANS

Now that i know what it means, THE OTHER ONE LITTERALY HAS A BOOB POKEING OUT! THEY BOTH FEMALE!

[tropic willow]

A as in singular. There for that one could be given both male and female parts to make it androgynous. Most ones in games have parts of both

https://tenor.com/view/warframe-xaku-prime-pendulum-dance-gauss-prime-gif-12039137251612472912

[old steeple]

Unknown.

[tropic willow]

Like Xaku on the left there from warframe. Which is made up of 3 people

[tropic willow]

Yeah unknown is one too. So is Dredge both of which are two of my fav designed killers

And both were the examples given for otherworldly in the first vote

[old steeple]

First of all, eww, secondly, the second design has feminine curves too. Very feminine lookin over male.

To each there own tho ig. I just like how the glowing one is, you see me and that means your judgement is comeing and theres not much you can do

[gaunt dawn]

An overwhelming unnerving presence

like it is so incredibly powerful and above you, you feel so small in comparison. it judges you for every flaw you have harshly, while it embraces perfection

[manic mortar]

I just like how the radiant design looks "divine" with the bright halo and wings, and even the glowing blue flesh on the underside looks well with the eyes and dark mist

The only thing it's missing is the legs from the "meaty" design

[tropic willow]

Wdym ew

[gaunt dawn]

thats an interesting take I havent heard yet

[old steeple]

Meat amalgamation is desgusting to me. I dont like the weird meat amalgamation chacters bevause it looks desgusting and sounds horrible. Hence why i want the glowing one and nof the meat one

[gaunt dawn]

for me its more that, we have enough of that in the game. Do we really want to give up our oppertunity to do something different in favor of 10 more years of the same stuff

[echo folio]

Hard to argue there

[old steeple]

This is true too. But honestly all the way up till this point i have been wanting to play this killer. This is a make or break situation. The glowing one will make me play them relentlessly, but the meat on i will only do the adepts and thats it. Never gonna touch em again.

[gaunt dawn]

I would play significantly more of it if it is ethereal.

Ill put it this way.

I havent had a favorite original killer since hag

first it was wriath, then nurse came out, then hag.

and that was it

I like etherealness, I like spell casters, I love otherworldly things. The closest thing I currently have of the kind of thing Im into is vecna and dracula. Dark wizards more or less. (I know technically dracula is more or less a warlock or a dark aspect but you know what I mean).

Having another spellcaster and especially making it an original character that also contrasts my other main (venca DnD) would be amazing

I favorite superhero is Dr.strange. My favorite class in ESO is a mix between templar and Sorcerer.
One of my favorite pokemon is delphox.

I could go on.

OF course I want everyone to be happy, so I hope that whatever wins gets a constrasting skin

Judgement, a tie between grace and aurora and hammer being unpopular are the most consistencies Ive noticed

[echo folio]

It makes me happy to hear Aurora is picking up chatter

[gaunt dawn]

I still dont know what is going to win between meat and spirit for the killer thematic though. It depends on the demographics you are part of

I once thought for sure spirit was the popular choice but now I see it could easily go either way

[echo folio]

I don't want to celebrate early but I have a hunch the light based option of the killer will win

[compact crest]

do we know when the results are coming out?

[echo folio]

usually 2-3 days after they close.

Voting should end today at 12 PM ET

[compact crest]

oh?

i see thank you

[echo folio]

No problem! Good luck and enjoy

[old steeple]

Ive been useing logistics to calculate and so far more want the light compared to meat.

[gaunt dawn]

what are your sources though? Ive been sending updates from this channel to my discord and Ive had a program scan reddit and any website with the picture of the grimoire killers. looking for keywords.

Admittingly it isnt perfect but my estimations were heading towards light winning but there was significant push for the meat design in the past 3 days

[old steeple]

Currently my unreliable brain and a peaice of paper

[gaunt dawn]

It would be useful if I had the official servers votes able to be tracked, lol. but that might take away from the spirit of the vote

[old steeple]

But your way works too lol

[gaunt dawn]

Well, there is one flaw

astroterfing. If someone made multiple different accounts and usernames to push for one or the other it could skew things

[old steeple]

Tbh ive been hard core stressing abput this and ion know why.

[gaunt dawn]

Ill honestly be happy when its over, lol.

Im excited, I really am, just these past few days have I been incredibly invested

I started feeling indifferent to both killer designs but the longer I thought about it, the more important it became to me that we get something new in this game design wise

[old steeple]

Same. The glorious light one is something we have never seen before. Yet people want the meat one.

[gaunt dawn]

No matter what happens I hope the angel has an "opposite" skin. Something that can make the people who wanted the other option at least a little happier about the decision

[old steeple]

The odds are unlikely but hopeium is all we got in this time

[gaunt dawn]

I dont think its as unlikely. Sure we wont get exactly the opposite skin but we could for example replace the meat with stone

(content warning, this contains AI to help me emphasize my concept)

the one on the right looks in a way I would desire if the meaty one won

The basic concept is a more "complete" looking version of the meaty one

[old steeple]

Ok first of all HOW DID YOU GET THIS GOOD AT NAKING CONCEPT ART and second, behaviour will probably just forget about that design for like 3 years and then release it

[gaunt dawn]

its AI

[old steeple]

Oh.

[gaunt dawn]

Last time I posted AI I got blasted by the community but Im only using it for concepts. I still fully support artists and I dont think that AI can replicate that creativity

If anyone wants me to remove it please let me know, I still dont know what the official stance for it is in this channel, I cant remember where the rules are posted

well, I dont know what the official stance is on AI around here anyway

if we get the meaty one and it has something similar to this for a skin, Ill be happy

[old steeple]

Dude i fr dont care. Ai isnt that bad in my eyes, just dont be useing it in like game making or to make a song for you.

[old steeple]

I do wounder how plauge would react to this killer tho. Cause like an angel, plauge worships a god, or the entity, and she may think shes a angel of him?

[gaunt dawn]

I have a head cannon lore about the angel killer want to hear it?

[old steeple]

Sure

I CANT WAIT ANYMORE GIVE US THE RESULT BEHAVIOUR GIVE US THE RESUUUUUUULTTTTTSSSS

[gaunt dawn]

The angel doing its duties to an unknown wrathful god from another realm grows tired of watching mortals again and again fail to reach the level of purity it wants to see in the world. Even the smallest of imperfections drive it further into disgust and despair. It has given up hope, so for a more perfect world it believes it needs to reset the world. It will bring about judgement.

A world on the brink of collapse from its destruction leaves our survivor hell bent on finding a way to save her world. She discovers in her tomes the realm of the entity. She attempts to banish this wrathful angel into this realm but unbeknown to her the entity has a mind of its own and takes her along with it.

Our survivor is now trapped in the entities realm, she wants to leave but she must keep the angel trapped here.

The angel driven mad from her crusade, sees this new realm is filled with even more flawed mortals, they must be punished, the entity echoes in its mind "You must finish your crusade". It is driven, like a compulsion, to bring judgement onto the survivors

[fleet vessel]

FINALLY REMEMBERED TO VOTE ON THE GRIMOIRE

[echo folio]

Just in time it closes soon

[fleet vessel]

it glitched tf out but hope it got my votes in

[fleet vessel]

YEAH IK IDK WHY I FORGOT LMAO

[calm rain]

lol

[sick axle]

i chose the killer on the right, and the staff weapon

the one on the right has an obviously more menacing appearance, one on the left imo looks more "friendly" with the angle wings and divine light surrounding it

[winged nexus]

Where do we vote at

[severe fern]

the pinned message in the channel has the link

[gaunt dawn]

Light doesnt always mean friendly.

[gaunt dawn]

What did you vote for?

Throwing some ground beef on something also doesnt make it look menacing

[vague crater]

"An angel makes itself look scary to ward away evil, a demon makes itself look beautiful to deceive humans"

[gaunt dawn]

Angels are supposed to be beautiful. Menacingly beautiful.
The same type of fear you feel when you get the long stare of a disapproving authority figure.

[umbral trellis]

The correct approach to 'religious terror', IMO, is to make something so beautiful and enticing that it hides just how menacing and exploitative it truly is. It's why I think making the angels look like demons in Doom Eternal was such a mistake, because it's too literal with the 'are we the baddies' trope.

Even if it's borderline cosmic horror, it needs to be alluring in the process. Something you can't look away from, something you want to embrace and let consume you.

[gaunt dawn]

I suppose that interpretation works too.

Me Im thinking more like frolo from hunchback of Notre dam

that guy scares the heck out of me

[umbral trellis]

Frolo, to me, is less about the terror brought on from religion, and more how the power can corrupt. It's an aspect of the upcoming killer without a doubt, but it's very clear that whatever higher power watchies over Frolo does not approve of his actions, even his own subconscious rebels against his decisions.

[gaunt dawn]

the most evil things in the history of mankind has been done in the pursuit of their belief.
The road to hell has been paved with good intentions.

Some people think solutions are easy, "Why dont we just do this heavy handed approach, surely that will fix the problem" and then you get people who have a furvor about them. Its about how people feel it gives them permission to be their worst selves.

righteous people can be the worst kind of people because the are so certain in their morality

[rigid lava]

Grimoire

[gaunt dawn]

yes

[sick axle]

well anyways chose the staff cause it's unique we have no like "magic staff" wielding killers in the game, have plenty wielding hammers or large 2 handed weapons, or using knives and blades or even bare hands

the plague basically has a flail style weapon along with pinhead so a staff may be interesting and unique if done right

[gaunt dawn]

I would love to see a lot of these concepts make their way back eventually.

A flail killer, a big head a spider-like killer.

[gaunt dawn]

low-key hoping we get a whole rift to coincide with our chapter killer, give taurie a new cultist outfit so she matches well with our new survivor or constrasts

[lavish niche]

i liked the staff and was about to chose that but the flail looks like it could be really cool lol

[balmy meadow]

when can we expect to find out the results

[lavish niche]

isnt it like March 16th?

[gaunt dawn]

I dont remember exactly because the dates got switched around but next voting starts on march 19th.

I was told by my sources that the results will be in within 2 days of the voting ending

[balmy meadow]

thats the next voting

voting should have ended by now

[gaunt dawn]

we stil have an hour

[fickle scarab]

I csnt wait for my genuine upset and disapointment

[gaunt dawn]

Ill be honest, Ill probably be happy either way.

I went into this never thinking we would never get a divine killer 8 months ago

so many aspects of this killer are already what Ive always wanted in the game, an alternative dimension to banish survivors to, a light beam from the sky, a divine angel killer.

Im lucky we got this far

Ill be a lot more happy if radiant design wins though

[fickle scarab]

I genuinely really really want both killer designs to be added like Legion

For thematic and lore reasons especially, but Im in doubt it will even be considered

[gaunt dawn]

I just hope both "themes" are available. not necessarily the same as the concept art.

One that leans more into its corruption and another that leans more into its purity

[fickle scarab]

The spider design is less themed around corruption and more the darker more dreaded aspects

The oppressive control and law enforced by such a monster.

[winged comet]

Honestly, I'm not really feeling the killer yet, I hope I'll change my mind once there's more character design.

[gaunt dawn]

a spider design would work better on a strider like character or just straight up a spider.
Love, death and robots had this thing which is clearly what some people really want.

but Id rather leave the spiderlike features for that kind of design

like something eldritch rather than divine

[fickle scarab]

I prefer it this way

Theres more to it than just a spider in its design, both on a surface level and deeper thematic level

[gaunt dawn]

There are a lot of thoughts people have on this grimoire killer thats for sure. Ive heard a lot of varying ideas from people on what they think this thing should even be.

[fickle scarab]

The humanoid portions looks like a doll, mannequin, or puppet to me. An unfeeling husk. Its wrapping of threads further emphasing thematic implications

[gaunt dawn]

it seems more like a creature pretending to be an angel to me if it is meaty with those claw feet. like its masquerading as something holy, as a form of bait

[fickle scarab]

It gives me a megaten vibe, in which case it isnt pretending to be one but a symbolic and otherworlding design centered around emphasizing oppressive themes

[gaunt dawn]

there are many kinds of beings in megaten

dont forget this is also in smt

I could keep going

well, debate time over. May the community approach the winner with grace and civility.

[fickle scarab]

Metatron is a good example of sort of what Im talking about

Best example of an angel that sort of paints the idea Im getting at is probably the soul hackets version of dominion

[gaunt dawn]

still very different than the spiderlegs one with the plucked chicken wings

[fickle scarab]

Chicken wings?

What?

[gaunt dawn]

ever see a molting chicken?

[fickle scarab]

Youre overthinking it

[winged comet]

I mean, I don't know what anyone is saying here, I only see a meat-like creature that erupted from a holy statue

[rough turret]

I love the mace

[echo folio]

the flail is good

[rough turret]

I was gonna vote for the polearm but the mace just felt better

[echo folio]

What name did you go for with the killer

[rough turret]

I chose the exalted

[echo folio]

Ooh nice

[rough turret]

I was gonna go for judgement but exalted goes hard

[echo folio]

Apocalypse had me hook line and sinker

[rough turret]

ultimately I won't mind any of the killer names
the survivor name however,

if it's anything but imogen I will be a little sad

[echo folio]

Oh yeah I do not like many of the survivor options for names

[rough turret]

this is also entirely a personal issue but I don't like the name grace

[echo folio]

Same here only with Michelle

[rough turret]

yeah I don't like michelle as an option

[gaunt dawn]

Im honestly anticipating just getting the answer so it can be over. I can breathe now that the voting is over.

Once its decided Ill have an easier time accepting the result even if it is the meaty one. As long as we get some kind of skin that "restores" it

[rough turret]

yeah I lowkey just want the results, but also I've always been an impatient person

[echo folio]

Once we have our final appearances and names for the killer / survivor then we can breathe easily

[gaunt dawn]

The top 2 names for survivor are going to be grace and aurora, I havent heard the other 2 mentioned much at all

[rough turret]

man that's unfortunate

I don't like aurora either
nothing against the name at all, I just don't feel it fits

[echo folio]

I voted for Aurora so it pleases me she is in the running

[gaunt dawn]

at least its just a name.

[echo folio]

True not anything gamebreaking if another name is chosen ultimately

[gaunt dawn]

honestly Im pretty satisfied with grandma. Like, I could easily go any way about her even though I have my preferences

[rough turret]

make imogen the surname at least 🙏🙏

[gaunt dawn]

Grace imogen? I can see that

[echo folio]

Grace Michelle Imogen Aurora is her full government name

[gaunt dawn]

lol

john micheal, jingle hiemer, shmit

[rough turret]

but also, ultimately it won't affect me at all since I won't play her

[echo folio]

How about the killer?

[rough turret]

I don't have alucard legendary skin for nothing 😭😭

[gaunt dawn]

I love old people in games, the sage characters. I will quite likely play her quite often

[rough turret]

the killer is different since I'll be playing against it

[echo folio]

Ahh well I shall be maining it and her

[rough turret]

I will probably never play as that killer, since I can only really play dracula, but I am invested in the design

I regret getting invested in the vote because now if the other one wins I'll be mourning

[gaunt dawn]

I do lowkey hope they reduce her breasts to an ambiguous degree. Just to make her a little more androgynous. Im not going to lose my mind if the angel has them but I just think it would fit more

[rough turret]

I already am mourning the texture from the previous vote that lost

[echo folio]

Out of the 42 killers currently in the game, The resident Evil killers, Plague and Nurse are the only killers I do not play yet but maybe someday for completionist sake. I plan to play this killer as the gameplay, design and lore have me obsessed. As for that design detail, well they can do anything after getting a design down first, this isn't even a full 3d Model to see how bad it'll be

[hoary crater]

I hope they let us vote on future skins as well. Let this be a full and forever community chapter.

[echo folio]

You mean help with rift outfit ideas?

[rough turret]

every time I think about community votes I remember the minecraft mob votes

[echo folio]

Maybe they could give us themes and say thank you

Not reveal what won to build speculation for the release

[gaunt dawn]

I have some degree of faith that because this game is mature that the community as a whole are going to be civil about this. Especially if they give the promise of doing this again. Overall this was a lot of fun and Id love to see other designs explored by the community using the same format

So far this has been pretty civil actually

[echo folio]

I also would love to see the grimoire return again or at the very least they program the website to allow us to see all the other possible results we could have made

[gaunt dawn]

I dont think they should tell us what else was possible, for future sakes

[echo folio]

only time we weren't civil was the silhouette for the killer and old woman or blue haired girl

[echo folio]

I only wanted that option if they never bring the grimoire back

[gaunt dawn]

I was fine with either killer (head was not winning), I did feel strongly about grandma though.

[echo folio]

I wanted Grandma badly to win

[gaunt dawn]

I felt strongly about grandma but I wasnt insulting people for picking blue haired girl but I did see some people do that.

Id say grandma vs blue hair was probably the most intense part of this whole thing

[echo folio]

I didn't insult the people for choosing the blue haired girl, I only expressed she wasn't in my eyes what the previous verses of the grimoire we building up to and that I saw simularities with how Sable looked. Someone even showed their faces overlayed together. Anyways.. I loved the grimoire overall

[gaunt dawn]

Im overall glad grandma won, we at the very least have a great survivor that at this point cant go wrong in my eyes

and the killer's theme is exactly what we need in this game, everything else at this point are nitpicks

[echo folio]

I also fear if we didn't make these choices we may never have gotten a divine themed killer~

[fiery forum]

😯

[gaunt dawn]

it contrasts so well with what we already have in the game to give it a richer cast.

[broken grail]

damn new designs look cool

[fickle scarab]

I really want the spider one to win

[wraith onyx]

So any news on the results yet?

[echo folio]

Nothing yet

[wraith onyx]

Damn

I'm so impatient, I really hope the more angelic looking design wins, I still think the meaty statue looks gross and doesn't fit the divine theme at all, anything what I don't care much for, I do wish they give us both killer designs tho with one being a skin so then everyone is happy

[gaunt dawn]

or something equivalent to the theme of the loser

The results will take 2 days to tally

[split hornet]

Me and my friends all voted for the angelic look so hopefully thats gonna be the one that wins, fingers crossed🤞

[wraith onyx]

Sadly yeah, and I agree with the above

[wraith onyx]

Agreed

[fickle scarab]

This community always astounds me

[wraith onyx]

How so?

[fickle scarab]

People were extremely hyped over the concept of the spider legs

[wraith onyx]

?

[fickle scarab]

and then people are voting for the one that DOESNT have them

[vague crater]

it didnt win by 100%

[fickle scarab]

I know but it was the msot vocal perspective by far

[vague crater]

also not everyone knew they would be spider legs

like the statues on the moodboards
and the screen
had the legs separate

[fickle scarab]

They werent. The community interpretted them as such

and latched onto it

the general response to the designs confuses me in general

[vague crater]

[flat rivet]

tf is a grimoire

[marsh imp]

My problem with the black haired gal, is that people wanted her because she was attractive.

Like? Why not just continue playing any of the other attractive survivors? Not every survivor in the roster has to be conventionally attractive. 😒

[marsh imp]

An evil version of a Book of Shadows.

[flat rivet]

has not a single clue what’s book of shadows

[marsh imp]

A Book of Shadows is a book of witchcraft.

[flat rivet]

oh so yall be doing black magic in here ?

[marsh imp]

Of course. Join us @flat rivet. 😈

[flat rivet]

girl if that can make me rich I’m down otherwise I’m out

[gaunt dawn]

we straight up witching up in here

[tropic willow]

Did they announce the vote winners or is that tomorrow?

[gaunt dawn]

give it 2 days

[tropic willow]

https://tenor.com/view/bop-bop-bop-shoebody-bop-squad-summon-dark-magic-gif-13983602502478731881

Yes

[flat rivet]

this gif fries me

[gaunt dawn]

which one do you think is taurie?

[tropic willow]

Is it at least french cut?

[flat rivet]

has no clue what that is

[gaunt dawn]

gotta be the one on the right

[tropic willow]

The one with the least amount of hair

[tropic willow]

https://tenor.com/view/cat-kitty-frenchfries-gif-22294046

[gaunt dawn]

could be almost any one of those red hooded guys

[tropic willow]

I was making a french fries joke

[flat rivet]

yea my apologies English kinda my fourth language I ain’t too much into yall joke i barely understand them 😭

[tropic willow]

Thats fair

[flat rivet]

Witches perhaps can you catch a spell for a Xbox gamepass code to appear in front of me ty

[gaunt dawn]

Witch please

[tropic willow]

You gotta self manifest it with the spell J.O.B.

[flat rivet]

let me play the minor CARD, I’m a MINOR, I have EXAM soon, I HAVE TO APPLY TO COLLEGE so JOB is not in my bucket LIST

[tropic willow]

Its not in anyones bucket list

[flat rivet]

im tryna study English

[calm rain]

What are ya- French?

[gaunt dawn]

could always sell your teeth, there are probably a good dozen there

[flat rivet]

Yea!

[calm rain]

Damn- I rolled a 20 for perception lol

[flat rivet]

I have 32 teeth, god blessed me with straight wisdom, maybe i can sell em for a zillion dollar lol

[flat rivet]

n u won lol

[gaunt dawn]

Im certain, I dont know what sells for more hair or teeth but on a side note, depending on your blood someone might pay for that too

[flat rivet]

Im o negative

[gaunt dawn]

plus the give you free snacks

[flat rivet]

I don’t eat snack god bless I care too much about what I eat lol

[calm rain]

Lmao! What do I win?

[flat rivet]

Nothing I can’t even afford gamepass

[calm rain]

Damn

Your bones will do just fine

[gaunt dawn]

if you give blood you will want to eat the snacks they give you. you could get anywhere between 50$-800$ giving blood if you have some hours to spare and good blood

[flat rivet]

According to my doctor I have a high bone density because of my massive calcium intakes and diet so you’re winning

[gaunt dawn]

it will make you feel light headed possibly

[calm rain]

FOR FUCK SAKE— what’s next your gay?

[flat rivet]

From what I’ve heard me (o-) can give blood to anyone so I think it’s pretty cool lol

[flat rivet]

no sorry… maybe in another life

[calm rain]

. . . Sounds like you want to be gay..

[flat rivet]

i mean I don’t want to be gay but don’t really mind being gay I’m just chill like that

[gaunt dawn]

The space between I think was meant to be interpreted either way like a rorschach

[calm rain]

So I am technically right—

[flat rivet]

well not really because it’s not my main goal of life to be gay

[gaunt dawn]

I did not see connection between the legs and body and the light version of the killer doesnt look like those legs are attatched either

[calm rain]

Fair enough

[flat rivet]

I forgot yall be doing black magic typa shit in here

[gaunt dawn]

we are trying to summon the next killer

[flat rivet]

fair enough, can you also perhaps summon diploma just in case I fail my exam

[tropic willow]

Ngl this makes my earlier joke even better lol

[echo folio]

Now that voting is closed, I want to once again thank you all for the many opportunities to discuss this grimoire which I'm passionate about. I know it isn't fully over but now we will have a final appearance, names and we can continue from here.

[fickle scarab]

[tropic willow]

Add another vote where we tweak the appearance more lol

[echo folio]

Where is that on the roadmap

[fickle scarab]

Its not

[tropic willow]

https://tenor.com/view/the-joke-superman-flying-missing-the-joke-not-getting-the-joke-gif-16558902

[echo folio]

https://tenor.com/view/drax-the-destroyer-dave-bautista-metaphor-guardians-of-the-galaxy-over-my-head-gif-3613490

[dim eagle]

when are winners released?

[tropic willow]

You mean revealed? If so in like 2 days

[woeful pewter]

hello 🙂 anyone have the grimoire roadmap ? i don't remember what we are voting for next 🤔

[tropic willow]

I dont have the roadmap but ik we’re voting for perks and i think chapter logo was mentioned in it

[tropic willow]

Oh right mori was also next

[gaunt dawn]

I think perk wise grandma should get something that makes invocations take less time ans for killer something that can blind the survivor

[tropic willow]

I just hope the fortune teller look won for her

[gaunt dawn]

I dont see why granda can't have both skins. Its not like our killer where the entire skeleton changes

[tropic willow]

Name it Blinded by the light

[tropic willow]

Agreed

Just add them all to shop so everyones happy

[gaunt dawn]

What I'd really like to see is taurie get a skin for this chapter to reflect her similarities and contrasts with the new survivor

[woeful pewter]

thank you ❤️

yus especially since new survivor is like the opposite of her: using religion to fight against an entity when Taurie uses religion to worship an Entity. I love that one of the outfit option looked so close to Taurie's linked outfit (it's the one.voted for)

[gaunt dawn]

we will know the results on wednesday, friday max

[woeful pewter]

wednesday tomorrow or next week ? (sorry even in my native language i have trouble identifying if people means the next time this day come or the one the week after ahah)

[gaunt dawn]

sorry Im in a match, implicitly tomorrow

of course that is presumptuous, it could change to any day

[woeful pewter]

okep thank you very much for taking the time to answer while playing ! Hope you have great matches

[tropic willow]

Tuesday is tomorrow

[woeful pewter]

sorry i didn't take timezone in account xD

fo like 80% of the world tomorrow is wednesday right now if i'm not mistaken, so that why i assumed 🙁

[gaunt dawn]

American exceptionalism

if you must know everything is based on EST

[woeful pewter]

well even alaska is on -9 so it should be 1 am there so today still is tuesday for them no ?

[gaunt dawn]

Alaska is quite the exception

[woeful pewter]

then i wasn't wrong to assume tomorrow was wednesday, if montreal is -6 (4 am)

[gaunt dawn]

GMT -5 or -4 depending on the season because we have daylight savings

[woeful pewter]

true true which is weird, i hate daylight savings. time is already so confusing no need to add to it ahah

[gaunt dawn]

It used to make sense centuries ago

because lights used to turn off at night, electricity wasnt a 24/7 thing. It genuinely did save an hour of electricity every day.

[woeful pewter]

isn't it a thing in all countries ?

[gaunt dawn]

yes

[woeful pewter]

i know here it usually turn off around 11 pm

[gaunt dawn]

because of farming and coal based electricity.
It was actually a good step towards reducing pollution

[woeful pewter]

but it must be city-decided and not nation wide, coz realy big city probably can't do that

anyways 'im sorry i made us go off topic xD

[gaunt dawn]

no problem, its never a bad moment to learn something

@woeful pewter I think you mioght be interested in this

[woeful pewter]

damn that actually a cool looking advert, i kinda miss the old style of advert that used only few colors

[gaunt dawn]

some innovations came about because of restrictions, like how the hulk is green

necessity creates innovation

[woeful pewter]

and now it makes for one of the most identifiable fictionnal character

[gaunt dawn]

simpsons was made yellow to catch the attention of channel surfers

[stiff obsidian]

Do we have the winners?

[tropic willow]

No

[gaunt dawn]

give it about 30 hours

[gaunt dawn]

Im very excited for this chapter, I really wish we had this thing released tomorrow

[calm rain]

Hello. I am now gonna show a random meme

[fickle scarab]

The 10% chance if a stegull scream is so much funnier

Its like a jumpscare.

[vague crater]

I think they will probably do that
its just what one we are voting for the base cosmetic so people dont have to pay for it

well they will need to pay for the chapter but you know what i mean

[calm rain]

lol

[gaunt dawn]

at the very least for the survivor. With the killer its not that easy

[ruby igloo]

Stevegulls death is a meme to you? Shame on you

[elder linden]

Was there going to be a map alongside the survivor and killer?

[gaunt dawn]

I wish there was

[echo folio]

We all want one but it is unlikely. We will most likely have to wait four to five years for one if it's like Trickster. I'd love one though for the stained glass and outside we can see glimpses of The Collapse.

We did vote on a moodboard that could easily become a map

[calm rain]

I am but a messenger of what I find.

I dare not desecrate his grave.

[fickle scarab]

a main building for a map

I imagine a chapple in the ruins of a city

[balmy meadow]

WHEN ARE THE FUCKING RESULT.

[echo folio]

Good things come to those that wait. We will know when the time is right

[cedar vault]

I think this chapter should be called the grimoire chapter tbh

[lunar charm]

the map could be so beautiful omg 😭 i absolutely looove stained glass and spooky divine aesthetics

[flat rivet]

Witches I need your help perhaps

[echo folio]

No no, the grimoire is the fancy book that has all these future killers inside. The more you look in the more we have to deal with

Unless they are going to say this scary book is whatever the chapter title we chose

I prefer to think the book is a collection, an anthology

[fair forge]

Did we get the winners?

[echo folio]

Not yet

[fair forge]

Alr ty

[echo folio]

Lowkey I hope the next Grimoire after this one with the divine killer, it will retain the same or similar levels of hype. The inspiring artworks and theories as we discuss throughout the months

[fickle scarab]

It looks like the flesh book from the tomes

Theres a book make of flesh. Iirc both the red crane finds it at one point and Vitorio

[echo folio]

in an older post, even though we cannot translate the entity text it was in the teaser for the grimoire

Now did it just say the grimoire or something else who knows we do not have a cypher yet

[dim eagle]

do we know when winners are revealed?

[echo folio]

Not definitely but soon I can guarantee we won't be in the dark forever

I know the wait sucks but hold on everyone

[gaunt dawn]

give it about 24 hours

[echo folio]

And if it isn't back around 24-48 hours, expect the results roughly the same week as the next Grimoire vote

We have some time

[gaunt dawn]

Thank you devs for your patience with us. it has been intense but we are so incredibly excited.

[echo folio]

Yes our impatience isn't greed but passion for what we're crafting

[gaunt dawn]

There are just a few things Ive heard expressed here Id like to emphasize for better visibility.

Thematically a lot of people would like an alternative skin for whatever wins for killer that has more aspects of the other. One leaning more into the purity aspect and the other the messy meaty corruption.

Some have expressed wanting to get her breasts down a little in size to make her more ambiguously gendered.

Quite a few people want her to have a layered voice.

A lot of people think we should get whatever doesnt win for survive as a skin since it will be much easier for a survivor to get both than the killer to get both.

A lot of people have expressed wanting organs, bells and a latin choir for the music.

[echo folio]

I'm sorry... Organs for the music? This is a first for me

the instrument I hope

[gaunt dawn]

yes of course, lol

[tropic willow]

Theres an organ instrument? Ive been using someone’s lungs as a bagpipe

[echo folio]

it's a horror game and there is the possibility you were focusing on the fact our killer has a Punishing Heart

[gaunt dawn]

stop, please tell me you guys know what an organ is?

[echo folio]

I do

[tropic willow]

Yeah the brain, lungs, heart, and intestines

[tropic willow]

https://tenor.com/view/piano-playing-piano-spongebob-spongebob-playing-organ-organ-gif-21786918

[tropic willow]

Dont ruin our fun

[echo folio]

Sorry Toast~ lol

[tropic willow]

We could of gaslit for another hour if played our cards right

[gaunt dawn]

it wouldnt be hard, lol

[echo folio]

But then we wouldn't be discussing the grimoire

in fact, what of the options of all the grimoire did you hyperfocus over if any? I hyperfocused over the first verse which had the options of our killer. Grounded: "An unhinged, cold-blooded human, cruelty personified."
Examples: The Trapper, The Legion, a Serial Killer.
Supernatural: "A dark presence with powers unknown tied to a mysterious world."
Examples: The Wraith, The Plague, a Vampire.
Otherworldly: "A maddening, incomprehensible horror from beyond reality." (What we chose this time)
Examples: The Dredge, The Unknown, an Eldritch Abomination.
Chimeric: "A twisted creation of nature, somewhat natural, definitely monstrous."
Examples: The Artist, The Singularity, a Werewolf.

[gaunt dawn]

I love supernatural no matter what and otherworldly is amazing as well.

Personally I still want a time control based killer still, some ethereal chronomancy wizard

[echo folio]

I chose otherworldly but would have gone for a grounded killer for my second choice

[gaunt dawn]

Divine would have been my second choice. Which we are getting amazingly

[echo folio]

I know, thankfully divine was our change of fate from otherworldly

[gaunt dawn]

I think after this grimoire I might help vote in a spider

Ill always want a time wizard but Im grateful I got what I did

It seems a large chunk.of the community felt the same way

[echo folio]

I would vote a spider in, but question, can it be one from Falls City? From the tomes

Terra Arachna

[gaunt dawn]

My tops are (after angel): a time wizard, an actual spider, a werewolf

[tropic willow]

Same. I wanted an eldritch being which is why chose otherworldly instead got an angel

[tropic willow]

Pretty sure the angel is going to be the only spider we get tbh since has the legs

[fickle scarab]

A vampire would actually have been kind of interesting given their appearence in the first haddie story

[gaunt dawn]

no way is it ever going to be "the only spider we get"

[fickle scarab]

I don't know dude

Granted, this whole grimoire did show that people would want something like that

[gaunt dawn]

also I would love a vampire that isnt dracula, just for the sakes of possibly losing the lisence

yeah absolutely pepple want a spider killer, just not everyone wants that for the angel.
To me the ethereal design does not have spiderlegs, they are more like pillars that suspend the killers body

[fickle scarab]

Ive said many times that those arent spider legs on that one

[gaunt dawn]

but Im not against a spider eventually, at some point.

[fickle scarab]

Though it is always possible that if it does win they could incorporate that idea into the animations but I doubt it

I'm still adamant about the idea of utilizing both designs as alternates of the same being or as both avatars of one being

Its like my idea for using all silhouettes but much much more cohesive

[echo folio]

Do you still feel that way or are you happier with where we are now? I will never forget the cosmic killer we almost got

[gaunt dawn]

parts of each for sure. it was in the list I condensed based on conversations the past week. Ive been on this chat constantly, both late at night and in the mid day.

Something only an unemployed person with poor sleep can accomplish

[gaunt dawn]

At some point the licenses will slow down, I would love to see cosmic horror as well. These are all fantastic ideas.

[echo folio]

At some point you are right but also I hope by that point we never have a repeat of the skull merchant hate for an original chapter release

[calm rain]

What’s up people- what am I missing out on today

[echo folio]

People asking when are the voting results coming

[gaunt dawn]

not much, Im trying to make a summery easily visible in case the devs/community manager stops by

[echo folio]

^

[calm rain]

Ah

[echo folio]

I appreciated it, Wizard

[gaunt dawn]

if there is something you noticed I havent put please let me know

[echo folio]

I don't need them to remember the small civil war that came when we had to choose an old woman or the blue haired girl

[gaunt dawn]

Im only making notes based on future decisions, past decisions arent worth arguing over, that part is done with

[echo folio]

Agreed

[gaunt dawn]

universally I think most people agree grandma should get both skins eventually and that the killer should get a skin that is thematically different than the one that wins. A lot of people seem to be in favor of organs and bells and a latin choir if possible for the chase music

those are the most universall agreed upon suggestions I keep hearing

personally, I hope we get a rift based on it

[fickle scarab]

Itd be difficult to use organs and bells without it sounding silly and out of place I think. This's games composer is legendary but stil

[gaunt dawn]

I trust, if dark souls/eldin ring/bloodborne/blasphemous can do it, they can

[fickle scarab]

I wonder if its common knowledge that this game's entire ost outside of the Pyramid Head stuff is done by one guy

[gaunt dawn]

a good game can go without good music but a great game cant. Music and sound design are so incredibly important for making games feel impactful

[fickle scarab]

The full track for DBD's main theme is underapreciated

[gaunt dawn]

A game doesnt survive 10 years by being average.

[gaunt dawn]

I have my own ideas on what some of the new perks should include

[calm rain]

Okayz week 3 is when we get map. W
-# for trickster

Wonder what blood moon is… if somebody knows do tell- is it skins? Or something else??

[onyx geyser]

its like insane bp bonus

[calm rain]

Aaahhh I seee…

[gaunt dawn]

I still need some skins

[calm rain]

lol

Here ya go. Straight from YouTube. Lmao

[gaunt dawn]

I can get a better higher rez version

[calm rain]

Much appreciated

Peak

[echo folio]

Thanks Wizard

[gaunt dawn]

wait.... not its wrong

[echo folio]

lol

[calm rain]

Indeed… what was that—

[gaunt dawn]

I have it here somewhere

[echo folio]

I saw spirit

[gaunt dawn]

that was last years

[calm rain]

Ah

[echo folio]

that was the junji ito collection I think

[calm rain]

W

[gaunt dawn]

here we go

[calm rain]

Can’t wait for blood moon

[gaunt dawn]

I noticed resident evil sale, thats nice I have some stuff I still want from that

birkin, the barret for jill.

also love that haddie skin, finally a haddie skin I like

[echo folio]

I worry when sales like the resident evil one happen, Hellraiser, Stranger things and Halloween had sales right before they lost the licenses

[gaunt dawn]

I figured if we were actually losing the lisences that we would have heard about it

theyve given us plenty of heads up

[echo folio]

You're right but it still weighs on my mind

[gaunt dawn]

every lisence is doomed to it eventually, thats why strong originals are important

[echo folio]

it is also why i hate when people ask for us to lose an original license killer like those ones

[gaunt dawn]

I love our originals, while I have my criticisms on some of them the charm of them are undeniable

[echo folio]

Unknown and Dredge were easily some of my favorite horror icons from anywhere, all the original characters have their place and continue to help our community grow and feel seen with the representation across the globe. Brazil needs another go after Skull merchant I feel to represent

Unless another chapter happened there and I am spacing on it

[gaunt dawn]

of our original killers Id say, wraith, nurse, hag, huntress, spirit and knight are among my favorites

the angel will definitely find its spot among my top

[gaunt dawn]

its hard to say which is my absolute favorite, nothing 100% hits the mark but hag and nurse have always been up there. Ive always been a fan of magic

[wraith onyx]

Grimoire result news?

[gaunt dawn]

we will see the results sometime between tomorrow and the end of the week

[wraith onyx]

Damn 😢, do you mind pinging me when we do?

[gaunt dawn]

Im certain the community itself will be quite loud about it

[wraith onyx]

Yeah but I won't be notified unless I get pinged lol

[gaunt dawn]

Ill try to remember

I cant make any promises, you should turn on notifications in #dbd-announcements

[gaunt dawn]

great post!

[marsh imp]

You mean on here?

[haughty rain]

Omg last word-

[marsh imp]

https://www.reddit.com/r/deadbydaylight/s/fIHL4F37XM

I'm sorry @gaunt dawn I don't know why it gets pixelated when I do a lkng screenshot.

Actually! On my phone it looks fine. Does discord have a horrible compression system or something? 🤔

[gaunt dawn]

phones typically downsize resolution

unless you are specifically using discord through your wifi connection

[marsh imp]

You mean the discord app on my phone will be fine if I use wifi?

Nope. Still garbage resolution. 😢

Survivors shall be found UNWORTHY in the Pillar of Punishment!

[gaunt dawn]

I have some names for it, banishing light, Pillar of perdition, ray of retribution

Penance of Sins

I think the light should take some part in banishing the survivor.

Im kind of confused why the light itself adds sins. Maybe I missed something in a previous grimoire

[marsh imp]

The Power was always intended to add Sin I think.

[gaunt dawn]

Killer phase 2 verse 1 (IV) - "sins are gained from transgressions commited in the trial"

[fickle scarab]

The option for the power attack increasing sin lost the poll

Instead its sins being gained based on survivor actions

[gaunt dawn]

Did they forget?

[tropic willow]

Nope. I mean i dont mind it but was hoping for cosmic

[gaunt dawn]

the acceptance of one is not the denial of another

[deft minnow]

Simply put, the staff is now officially the most garbage weapon pick as the only argument for being any good was, "what if she uses it to shoot the beam", an argument which just got murdered

[marsh imp]

That was an argument?

It's a rather silly one. No killer has ever channeled their power thru their weapon, so why should this one be special.

[deft minnow]

Its staff lover propaganda mixed with cope

They cling to false hope to justify their pick

[gaunt dawn]

I love staves

[deft minnow]

Flail for the win

[marsh imp]

You misspelled Hammer.

[marsh imp]

Well yeah. You're a Wizard. That's like a Witch saying they love wands.

[fickle scarab]

I love seeing the des8gn process like this so much

[deft minnow]

I would be happy with either ngl, I love both

[placid scarab]

Looks a lot like The First's power...

[fickle scarab]

Clerics in dnd are traditionally equiped with maces, flails, and warhammers

As opposed to wizards using staves

I think thats the idea they had

[gaunt dawn]

Witches tend to really like cauldrons and brooksticks

Favored souls sometimes use staves

[placid scarab]

I figured The Plague was more like a cleric, where as this is more of a upper planes creature.

Plus we don't really have a glaive-like weapon in the game I don't think

[deft minnow]

I can already tell this killer will be a pain in the ass, with this new ability looping her on shack will be quite literally impossible, and she will be a nightmare on indoor maps

She can block any door, loop, or window with the death beam

[placid scarab]

They're basically remaking The First

[deft minnow]

Fr, but the power is huge, has a lingering hitbox, and can move

[gaunt dawn]

Id love to see a spear

[placid scarab]

Honestly it'd be pretty cool to get a killer who just has a better basic attack, like a spear with longer reach

[gaunt dawn]

Vlad the impailer

[placid scarab]

With a passive ability or two, but the main thing being the M1 attack

[marsh imp]

And a paladins can use...you got it...WARHAMMERS.

HAMMER IS SUPPREME!

[deft minnow]

Vlad the Impaler would be sick, just hand the guy a sharpened telephone pole like they did in Tabs

[placid scarab]

Variant Human (Tavern Brawler feat), trust me, your DM will either love you or hate you.

https://tenor.com/view/steel-chair-gif-19049284

[marsh imp]

This is a 2014 5E thing isn't it.

[fickle scarab]

It doesnt go through obstacles by the look of it so it wont be like the flame pillars from dracula

Whats really scsry is the alterante hooking method

Pyramid Head remote hook on crack

[deft minnow]

Doesn't mean you can't just place it on the other side of the obstacle, you can't exactly vault the window if there is a death beam waiting for you on the other side

[placid scarab]

Instead of this, we should've gotten Buffalo Bill as a killer. His power would be spawning a giant fucking well in the middle of the map he can throw survivors down

[deft minnow]

The killer will definitely be one of those high intensity hyper obsessive types like Nurse

There will be so much shit going on, alternative hooking, artefacts, curses, cleansing alters, and alternate reality, and beams of death

[frosty mural]

They said specifically that it does go through obstacles

Which is a terrible decision imo

[deft minnow]

Nurse 2.0 on roids

[marsh imp]

Sounds like paradise compared to dealing with the Baker family. (I just beat RE7 for the first time this mornin'!)

[deft minnow]

Congrats 🎉

[marsh imp]

Marguerite Baker was definitely the scariest bit! 😭😭😭

Anyways. Back to Grimmy talk.

I wonder what "Sin" actually does to survivors. 🤔

[fickle scarab]

That is stupud

I missed that

Maybe it will depend in how fast it moves

[frosty mural]

I rlly want her to be a killer

We dont have a bug killer yet surprisingly and i rlly want re7 rep

[marsh imp]

Oh god no! No! Please no! 😭😭😭

[fickle scarab]

Joe Baker survivor

[echo folio]

Finally a nurse I can play like Unknown

[trim walrus]

Sends them to the shadow realm (it’s how they get exiled)

[marsh imp]

Dang I was hoping for unique sins. 😔

[fickle scarab]

Current concept though is that being sent to that realm counts as getting hooked, and to get out you have to navigate moving pillars of light that if hit you reduce your hook timer

[marsh imp]

Really? 🤔

[fickle scarab]

yeah

Its a work in progress though obviously

we havent heard about the ideas for that side of the power in a while

[sinful crown]

That’s sounds op as fuck

[fickle scarab]

why do these bots always show up in this discord

[rough turret]

within the first hour of joining this discord someone dm'd me something extremely awful

I'll never forget that 😭😭

[fickle scarab]

how do we ping crew members again?

[rough turret]

I was going to @ crew but it says not to unless it's an emergency, so I was too afraid to over a link that seems to have slipped the auto mod

[fickle scarab]

Normally these posts are instant deleted

Like three of them just got deleted in game discussion just now lol

[rough turret]

guess they're tryna raid or smth

[fickle scarab]

No these are scam bots

[rough turret]

yeah, a bot raid of some kind

[fickle scarab]

Theres one advertising crypto scams sometimes too

[rough turret]

lowkey crypto is synonymous with scam

I've never heard of crypto that wasn't a scam

I messaged the modmail abt that one link

[copper path]

How is that thing still up?

[rough turret]

perhaps two links were sent at the same time, and the auto mod only registered one or smth

[patent violet]

Starting this year (in the US), you have to fill out an extra form when doing your taxes if you sell any digital assets (cryptocurrencies, NFTs, etc.)

[patent pumice]

I really want this new killer to have a top down view when deploying the power, kind of like an orbital strike (from the heavens ) has staff considered that?

I know there is top down views of some maps

I think it would also be awesome sauce if you could choose its path from the sky just like a knight guard

[tropic willow]

Does this include those people that sell fans? 😂

[gaunt dawn]

Crypto and NFTs were always scams once they hit the general public, it was never meant for the general public. It was always meant as a form of private banking from the individuals away from government eyes. A way to buy stuff without getting traced, unregulated. Now the governments know about it and regulate it, its lost its purpose and the only ones who keep using it now are either unaware or those people who just saw how it gained value and invested in it as a quick way to get a quick buck

everything from resellers reaching new heights, things getting scalped left and right and all kinds of pyramid schemes. ever since about 2018 its been a con economy. Several rug pulls have happened and there will be many more to follow

[gaunt dawn]

kind of, you can

I was told that sins would be from stuff survivors do, not from hitting them with the power.
I hope the power itself banishes people who have enough sins and doesnt apply sins itself

I have yet to hear how survivors accumulate sins by their own actions

[patent pumice]

It doesent really seem like something you can control super well so far

[gaunt dawn]

you mean because of how its done you cant pinpoint the projectile?

[patent pumice]

yeah it just keeps moving

kinda like a nurse blink

[gaunt dawn]

I think its fine

[calm rain]

I wish we shot the beam from the hands ;~;

[gaunt dawn]

I disagree, from a skill expression standpoint and from a balance perspective

[calm rain]

I guess

[modest gull]

Same. It won't be as cool now I guess. Shooting beam from hands would have been so good.

[gaunt dawn]

Xeno can do it but its power turns off every once in a while, huntress can damage from range but it has huge collision, trickster can damage from range but he needs to hit multiple times, nemesis can hit from range but he needs to build it up and it has collision with objects, pyramid head has range but its very telegraphed.

I shutter to think what would happen if we had a beam that just hit things

[silent pasture]

I thought the beam was supposed to interact with the "alternate realm" part of its power?

[gaunt dawn]

yeah

[silent pasture]

All of the powers you listed are able to damage survivors as their end-goal. The beam wouldn't do that

[frosty mural]

The beam auto hooks u

[silent pasture]

Wait huh?

[frosty mural]

It is stronger than if it was just a damage state

[silent pasture]

nevermind then. Wasn't aware of that

[frosty mural]

Being in the alternate realm counts as a hook

[silent pasture]

I think the light pillar is a good alternative

[frosty mural]

I like the pillar but it shouldnt go over obstacles

The controls for it seemed interesting but it doesn’t rlly matter if u can just send it straight through everything

[gaunt dawn]

By itself the ray itself shouldn't do much of anything. Thats why it should go through obstacles

[marsh imp]

Hello chat! 👋🏻

[gaunt dawn]

Im really hoping for news soon about the winners

[echo folio]

I agree, plus it is unique to this killer. The Pillar of Punishment concept they updated us with looks great

[calm rain]

Hayo

So… we get a hammer of dawn type bean instead of a laser beam

https://tenor.com/view/gears-of-war-hammer-of-dawn-gaming-explode-gif-17377478

https://tenor.com/view/anime-anime-attack-laser-anime-laser-beam-gif-8059515815729310221

[echo folio]

I love the way it works so far, seems fun

[gaunt dawn]

Its like a sling or yoyo

[quaint thistle]

Pretty cool final concept tbf.

[bold haven]

How did people vote for the WORST options in the last round except the weapon

[quaint thistle]

You gotta see the vision

[mellow wadi]

FUUUUUUUUUUUCK THE FLESHY ANGEL WON

[mellow wadi]

It's actually so over 🥀

[bold haven]

'The Judgement' must sound so cool to 12 year olds

Angels are literally messengers of God like can we be fr

[mellow wadi]

We could have had the best angel chapter ever

[quaint thistle]

I agree the names are...iffy
I'd definitely give it to other concepts but
They're good enough., you gotta agree

[mellow wadi]

Unfortunately, the community is as the community does

[bold haven]

The other killer design was waaaaaay better

This one is actually just not good at all

[mellow wadi]

LIKE ACTUALLY THOUGH

[quaint thistle]

Im more excited to next time (if that ever happens) since we have experience with the system we can all make something really special
(We need a music killer so bad)

[bold haven]

Its actually night and day between those designs

[mellow wadi]

I hope they add the angelic design as a skin

[gaunt dawn]

dang, I campaigned for the radiant one hard

[quaint thistle]

Different strokes for different folk,
Like it was 60% come on dude

[mellow wadi]

Please add it as a skin PLEASE

[echo folio]

I figured The Judgement was winning by a landslide

[gaunt dawn]

holy moly flesh won by a lot

[bold haven]

Man this name is so boring

[mellow wadi]

Horrible killer design

[gaunt dawn]

and that one won!

[echo folio]

Aurora won!

[bold haven]

Terrible

[mellow wadi]

Ew Aurora?

[gaunt dawn]

thats crazy that none of my votes one this time

[delicate cargo]

Yesssss

[echo folio]

That's just like your opinion

[bold haven]

Its just not good

[mellow wadi]

Grace was a lot better

[gaunt dawn]

well, I guess we get more fleshy blobs for the roster

[bold haven]

American children will slobber over it as always ig

[gaunt dawn]

at least we got the chapter name right

[bold haven]

I voted another chapter name too lol

[quaint thistle]

Peep how chorus of sin got 50% tho
Come on community, we're all secretly craving that music chapter

[echo folio]

^

[mellow wadi]

At least they got one thing right

[gaunt dawn]

I bet most people wanted flail + fleshy or Staff + radiant

[echo folio]

I know I did

[bold haven]

Yep I am the latter

[gaunt dawn]

so staff + fleshy is probably not what most people wanted

[mellow wadi]

Flail + angelic

[echo folio]

I wanted flail with radiant body

[mellow wadi]

I'm literally not going to buy this chapter, this chapter is so cooked 😭

[gaunt dawn]

its crazy how much the fleshy one won by

[bold haven]

Flail or staff both good, axe just flat out no

[echo folio]

I am loyal to the end

[gaunt dawn]

I guess we are playing it safe

[echo folio]

I shall main the killer and survivor like I said in the beginning

[gaunt dawn]

oh well, I just hope we get a good skin for it (crosses fingers)

I know I cant always get what I want but it will be nice

[quaint thistle]

It's a live service game, they know where the real money comes from.

[gaunt dawn]

please give us something similar to this as a skin at least

[calm rain]

Ooo—

[gaunt dawn]

Ill buy a skin like that day 1

[quaint thistle]

Ohhh who made that,

[calm rain]

Agree

[gaunt dawn]

people will hate me when I say it but its actually ai.
(Disclaimer, this is an AI edit, I support official artists and do not think that AI can replace the creativity of real people. This is mearly used as a concept)

[marsh imp]

Hell yeah! The name I pitched to them when they asked, and it won! 😎

[delicate cargo]

they need to do this again this was fun

[quaint thistle]

Dang that's a shame, I was gonna say I would love to see what they'd cook up for the second killer silhouette thing (the masc one)

[calm rain]

BURN IN HOLY FIRE HERETIC

[marsh imp]

You're fine. I'd like to think that most* people won't bash someone for using AI to pitch a concept.

[gaunt dawn]

it was, after all is said and done, we got an angel and thats the important thing

[calm rain]

You must atone for your sins.

[night cargo]

i just saw the design that won bruh how did the more angel looking one NOT win??🫩

[gaunt dawn]

You should see how people reacted early on in the process during the first phase of the grimoire

[calm rain]

Lmfao

[gaunt dawn]

Look up at the edit, what do you think of the modified version?

[night cargo]

if this was the case i would’ve been fine w it

[topaz linden]

Dang, we didn't get The Exalted and the Holy Design

[quaint thistle]

Mhm, im excited about the mori and final lore tbh.
I pray (no pun intended) we use angelic powers for the mori and not the fleshy corruption

[topaz linden]

No accessory getting >25% of the vote is also surprising

[gaunt dawn]

Im still bothered by the legs tbh

[night cargo]

but for only this design really, if it was the more angelic design im fine with the killer being made of flesh yk

[calm rain]

The only thing I’m slightly disappointed about was the name— apocalypse would have been cool

[gaunt dawn]

but, I can live with it if it gets a "cleaner" skin

[echo folio]

I was bummed the light design wasn't chosen, nor my chosen name, The Apocalypse but we can move on from here with a name to fall on

[topaz linden]

The legs were the main saving grace of the unholy design

[quaint thistle]

Like guys please, let's burn them in holy fire or mind control/destroy.

[gaunt dawn]

clearly this chat is a loud minority unless there was vote manipulation going on

[marsh imp]

They gotta use the other killer and survivor designs as day one skins right? RIGHT?

[quaint thistle]

I noticed that as well

[gaunt dawn]

but, Im not going to start that. Its more likely we are a loud minority

[delicate cargo]

it’s insane how different this would have been if the giant head won the original vote

[topaz linden]

Like feathers on the legs is peak design (the unholy angel was also my partner's favourite of the two)

[quaint thistle]

Will be missed fr. Too good for us

[marsh imp]

Giant head my beloved! You shall never be forgotten. 😢

[night cargo]

imo it should’ve been the messenger bc it would’ve made more sense

[gaunt dawn]

giant head should return as a poltergeist

[delicate cargo]

they can always add Ao Oni I suppose

[topaz linden]

I wanted the staff for the holy design; I feel like the Flail would have fit the name/design combo better

[quaint thistle]

Agree but for lore reasons

[echo folio]

The choices that won definitely fits how Dave Richard called the killer "A character with religious theme, with god like presence and power, something beautiful and terrifying" in the video The Grimoire | What is it?

[gaunt dawn]

Lets all pray for a "completed form" skin

[calm rain]

Agree

[quaint thistle]

If it returns, I hope it does with like
Really big fists as well

[marsh imp]

I'm still hoping the Staff isn't just something The Judgment carries around. It needs to appear from light and disappear into light.

[echo folio]

We shall see

[topaz linden]

Staff - The Exalted + Divine
Flail - The Judgement + Unholy
Maul - The Apocalypse + Unholy

[gaunt dawn]

Im interested to see what the cosmetics for the staff looks like

[night cargo]

yeah like something like spirit where the killer didn’t hold it until they attack

[topaz linden]

as for the combinations I think fit each weapon best

[neon escarp]

HOLY SHIT YES THIS WON

[gaunt dawn]

I really hope we do get at least 1 cosmetic option per piece

[gaunt dawn]

congrats

[delicate cargo]

I might have to main

[marsh imp]

This was my initial choice, thought ultimately I went for the other one because of the holy etherealness of it all.

[delicate cargo]

Tbh I liked both for the killer and survivor

[neon escarp]

also tbh The Messenger sounded cool

[gaunt dawn]

I still cant believe it won by almost 10% that is crazy

10% in a choice between 2 is a huge landslide

[marsh imp]

I just wish the name wasn't Aurora. I have a slight speech impediment and I can't say that name/word without slowing the fuck down when I speak it. 😭

[topaz linden]

I can; we only have the NA and EU people talking in here for the most part

[warped aspen]

look both killer designs are great but how did the second one win 😭

[neon escarp]

but like how did the staff win

[delicate cargo]

i liked both but I think this one is a little more cohesive

[warped aspen]

nah the staff is way better then the other two

[gaunt dawn]

Well I picked judgement, in a choice of 4 judgement won at nearly 40%

[quaint thistle]

This was the only one I was surprised by

[gaunt dawn]

The staff barely won

[neon escarp]

i legit thought the Flail was gonna win

[delicate cargo]

I almost voted Flail but I thought about plague so I voted staff

[echo folio]

I was talking about the name but yeah.. not sure how we all voted for the statue instead of the being of light but I digress.. we must move on

[neon escarp]

i wanted the Mace

[echo folio]

I wanted a flail

[delicate cargo]

The hammer looked sick though

[marsh imp]

Ty!

[warped aspen]

the first one is more divine and biblical looking

thats why i thought it would win by a landslide

[marsh imp]

I wanted to smack a Meg with it so badly.

[gaunt dawn]

Cant ever be too married to your idea of the perfect killer when other people are voting. I accept the winner with grace, even though I will miss the other design

[neon escarp]

honestly, it shouldve had a Fire Sword, like the one in Genesis

[delicate cargo]

I thought it would of been a 50 50

[warped aspen]

plus the fleshy wings arent my thing

[echo folio]

Only votes I got that won were Aurora, Accessories and Chorus of Sin

[gaunt dawn]

Its crazy how I got everyone I knew to help me vote on the ethereal one and it still lost by 10%

[echo folio]

I still love what we got, a definite answer

[delicate cargo]

I already know a blighted skin is going to look insane

[neon escarp]

fr

[gaunt dawn]

I can accept this winner but please give us a skin that more reflects what the other side wanted

[warped aspen]

the funny thing is that all of my votes won EXCEPT the killer design 💀

[gaunt dawn]

It will be the perfect consolation

[warped aspen]

yes please

[echo folio]

Give us a stained glass outfit is all I ask

[quaint thistle]

What would you guys vote for next time on first vote,
Between grounded,supernatural,otherworldly and chimeric.
Im interested to know as a community what are we craving more of

[gaunt dawn]

up to this point everything I wanted won so, this is the first time I actually didnt get what I wanted.

[marsh imp]

I also voted for Ethereal.

[marsh imp]

I will vote what I voted for before. Supernatural.

I want a fucking MUMMY KILLER! 😈

[neon escarp]

tbh i did not care about the survivor

[neon escarp]

maybe next time

[gaunt dawn]

the survivor is the easiest thing to rectify, just give us both skins, lol

killer design wont work as an alt because the skeleton is different

[quaint thistle]

Mhm, I think for survivor it was more lore implications than the actual visuals

[night cargo]

going back to that stone design that wizard sent earlier, lowkey i feel like that design could be really good as a starter and as the match goes on the flesh gets revealed as the angel killer grows stronger

[gaunt dawn]

dont care, still want the other one, lol

[night cargo]

also off topic but on topic, dbd took down the post

[marsh imp]

Visceral rarity then.

[gaunt dawn]

what post?

[night cargo]

the winner post

[gaunt dawn]

huh?

[marsh imp]

Oh so we weren't supposed to know yet?

[night cargo]

on their instagram page they took it down

i can’t send the ss but it’s gone

[quaint thistle]

What, im not throwing anything. Im just the importance part of the survior vote was the implications

[gaunt dawn]

hopium, maybe the votes were miscounted

[warped aspen]

possibly

[quaint thistle]

Its still on YouTube

[gaunt dawn]

I kinda wish they gave us a third option

[marsh imp]

Omg! What if they posted the LOSING cosmetics.

[night cargo]

lemme double check everywhere else rq

[echo folio]

The winner post is gone wow

[marsh imp]

That's why it got taken down.

[echo folio]

Doubt it

[night cargo]

yeah they took it down on twitter as well

[quaint thistle]

Unrealistic, but I would have preferred they A)
Let us make 3 final drafts of a killer and let us vote between them or
B) let us vote between fan concepts

[echo folio]

Will seem odd if they post a new results and different winners

[gaunt dawn]

oh well, whatever wins please give us a cosmetic for the killer that reflects aspects of the other choice

[night cargo]

if they clarify i wouldn’t mind but im just confused on why they posted it and took it down

[echo folio]

Behavior: "Actually both killer designs won"

[quaint thistle]

Twin killer fr.

[fading storm]

aurora won???

[echo folio]

hell yeah

[night cargo]

they took the results down on youtube too

[fading storm]

it shoulda been imogen

[night cargo]

everything was scrubbed clean from bhvr

[echo folio]

Nah, Aurora sounds like someone obsessed with constellations

[candid onyx]

Omg the results are down

Mandy what happened

[jade palm]

which I can see.

[fading storm]

i'm disappointed the glasses didn't make it but i'm fine with the earrings

[jade palm]

they all had earrings

[candid onyx]

I think dbd socials messed up and posted the wrong results 😭😭😭

[fading storm]

very glad we're going with chorus of sin tho

[placid ibex]

im fine with aurora because like… isn’t her whole thing that she tried to find reason in religion VIA the constellations

[fading storm]

i didn't realize

so that means we went with fucking nothing for the accessories

[placid ibex]

The one I’m not happy with is “Pyramid Head from temu”

Like we had THE EXALTED and yall let THE JUDGEMENT WIN BY THAT BIG OF A MARGIN??!

[fading storm]

the messenger was better

[gaunt dawn]

are you trolling?

[placid ibex]

ANYTHING is better than The Judgement bro

[vague crater]

thats just

[balmy meadow]

WHO THE FUCK VOTED FOR THE JUDGMENT

[zenith vigil]

I thought i was tripping did they delete it off everything??

[vague crater]

not it

[marsh imp]

I dint belive so unless the person who posted that on another dbd discord I'm in is trolling me?

[quaint thistle]

The troll is crazy

[placid ibex]

Idk what the 4th was but the messanger and the exalted are NOT ON THE SAME PLANE OF EXISTENCE

[marsh imp]

Me! Deal with it! 😈

[echo folio]

Many people voted for the judgement but I was not one of them

[placid ibex]

As THE JUDGEMENT

[jade palm]

I mean, I can see Judgement being a fitting name, even I thought it was a good name

[vague crater]

im surprised the earring won tbh

[gaunt dawn]

theres something strange going on here Avery

[echo folio]

Same but I wanted the Apocalypse. I got over it

[fading storm]

judgment is the status effect
PH's title is the executioner

[zenith vigil]

This real or fake ?

[marsh imp]

I reiterate, this WA posted in another dbd discord group I'm in. I'm not intenting to troll anyone and I'm hoping this is correct. 🤞🏻

[vague crater]

[balmy meadow]

if an option gets less than 50% of the vote there should always be a revote ImO

[zenith vigil]

Imma touch you

[vague crater]

its what I saw posted
if people are faking them then idk though

[placid ibex]

Ik but like… we had the apocalypse, the messanger, and the exalted, and THE JUDGEMENT Wins?!

[zenith vigil]

Same

[fading storm]

eh im already over it

[fickle scarab]

Its real. Posted on the official youtube.
http://youtube.com/post/UgkxAxIat4c926Qnjw-AimSpxlcaD7WLvUWu?si=nuzvtuZvrvDNB2v_

[zenith vigil]

Bet

[fading storm]

fleshy wings won so i'm glad

[echo folio]

Wrong button

[vague crater]

yeah the ones i sent are right then

[rough turret]

😭

[vague crater]

chorus of sin, flesh wings, earring, purple robes, aurora, the judgement, staff

[gaunt dawn]

someone said the results were scrubbed recently

[jade palm]

at least the weapon and the final concept of the survivor made it in, that's what I voted for

[fickle scarab]

Posting misinformation on the internet I see

[echo folio]

Thanks for the link, weird it was taken down on the other social media posts

[fading storm]

almost everything i voted for made it

[vague crater]

tbh i didnt mind which of these won besides the staff
which I got

[placid ibex]

I’m happy with the chorus of sin and STAFF SWEEP

[gaunt dawn]

playing with my heart here, lol

[delicate cargo]

I need to see how this killer vaults through a tiny window

[warped aspen]

everything i voted for won except the killer design lmao

[rough turret]

wait omg at least two of my votes made it through

[fading storm]

everything except for the survivor's head accessory, her name and the killer's title

[placid ibex]

prolly like dredge

like its legs go first and then it pulls itself forward

[vague crater]

the killer and survivor skins will be peak either way
the names didnt matter to me

Literally the only thing i cared about was the staff

[quaint thistle]

Teleportation ofc

[vague crater]

well its not that much taller than a person

[mellow wadi]

This grimoire has traumatized me to a point that I don't think I'm going to vote in a grimoire ever again

[gaunt dawn]

If I get something like this as a skin Im happy

[fickle scarab]

Didn't they say in a stream that it was a struggle figuring out getting a design to fit through a window

[vague crater]

its not even as tall as nemesis

[marsh imp]

It was not my intention I swear! 😭

[vague crater]

a bit wider obvs but its legs could just
move closer together to fit through

[echo folio]

I thought that was back when it was the original shape we voted for

[jade palm]

honestly, I see all of the things voted for very valid, even if the ones I voted for didn't get in, I'ms still happy with the results.

Just be glad that we are going to have an elderly female survivor.

[quaint thistle]

Its more width than height. Like those big legs

[fickle scarab]

It was

[vague crater]

well it would just like

[rough turret]

the names don't bother me because I can just call them the names I like anyway

[delicate cargo]

let’s pray

[vague crater]

move the legs closer together
front legs together at the front pulling it over
back legs moving together at the back being pulled over

[jade palm]

btw, now that we know the name is going to be 'Aurora' I'm curious to know what her surname is going to be.

[fading storm]

yeah judgement's skins are gonna go crazy

[gaunt dawn]

I still dont see why the other options for Aurora cant be cosmetics we can get

[fickle scarab]

This looks like itd be an actual cosmetic

[fading storm]

can't wait to find out what her true name is

[quaint thistle]

Can it even move the legs like that?

[placid ibex]

I will say tho…. Who the hell voted for basic ass bitch no accessory

We haven’t had a survivor with base kit glasses since MIKAELA and yall wanna be this simplistic???

[jade palm]

I mean, that can happen and I think it will happen, we are just voting for the default apperance.

[rough turret]

imogen as the surname (I'm coping)

[delicate cargo]

Ward

[marsh imp]

Hold up.

[vague crater]

its an earring

[fading storm]

reid

[split hornet]

OMG THE OTHER KILLER WON

[placid ibex]

it probably still is an it/they by the way…

Yes it looks gendered but I doubt it’ll use feminine pronouns

[rough turret]

I'm sad the mace didn't win but I don't mind the staff
I'm just so so glad killer 2 won

[vague crater]

I mean people call dredge and unknown he so-

[fickle scarab]

I like that they showed the actual percentage of votes this time

[quaint thistle]

Definitely

[placid ibex]

well those people are objectively incorrect so-

[gaunt dawn]

They need to post it on discord and steam to really solidify it so people arent caught off guard by misinformation posts

[vague crater]

realistically yeah its an it
its just a thing
but its taking the form of a woman so people will call it she her

[jade palm]

just saw the REAL RESULT, and it turns out the other design of the killer won. which is the one I voted for!

[marsh imp]

These were posted in Bluesky. @gaunt dawn

[echo folio]

I hope we can still get wings like this for outfits in the future on the Judgment

[placid ibex]

Did they… not do that last time?

[vague crater]

minsinformation
the other killer won

[fickle scarab]

Assuming you aren't joking, that killer design lost

[vague crater]

or wait what

[quaint thistle]

Omg we had so much potential man. A pure wings killer would have been so fireee

[vague crater]

THE DBD YOUTUBE DELETED IT AND REPOSTED THE OTHER KILLER???

[gaunt dawn]

Can someone contact a community manager to set it straight

[echo folio]

What!?

[vague crater]

https://www.youtube.com/@DeadbyDaylightBHVR/posts

[split hornet]

They corrected it, check their socials again

[placid ibex]

YEAH CAN WE GET SOME MODERATION IN HERE??? THIS IS CHAOTIC

[vague crater]

ITS THE PRETTIER KILLER
LMAO

[fickle scarab]

wait WAHT

[gaunt dawn]

OOOOH

[echo folio]

So did this win or not?!

[vague crater]

of course its bhvr messing up which one won

[mellow wadi]

ARE YOU TELLING ME THERE'S A CHANCE

[fickle scarab]

FUUUUUUUUUUUCK

[rough turret]

oh yeah wait the results are different on different platforms

[gaunt dawn]

Well this is on their official youtube

[vague crater]

that one won
they just updated it like 1 minute ago

[gaunt dawn]

That messup is going to cost them, a ton of chaos among the community

[echo folio]

This has been a stressful morning lol

[vague crater]

and the fleshy one got deleted from their YT

[fickle scarab]

FUUUUUUUUUUUUUUUUCK

[echo folio]

We won!

[split hornet]

Is confirmed 🥳

[vague crater]

"🚨 UPDATE 🚨

It was noticed by our team that the Winning Concept that was shared was incorrect. We wanted to go ahead and correct our mistake and share not only the corrected image, but also the votes for additional context!

VOTES
First Place: 59.63%
Second Place: 40.37%"

comment by them on the post

[quaint thistle]

Dbd is funny man

[candid onyx]

Genuinely how did they mess that up 😭

[echo folio]

Hope has been restored

[vague crater]

so yeah radiant angel killer won

[rough turret]

damn that's unfortunate

[gaunt dawn]

ok, so lets think of ways that the ethereal design can have a skin to make it look more similar in aspect to the fleshy one, anyone have any ideas?

[fickle scarab]

FUUUUUUUUUUUUUUUUUUUUUUUUUUUUUUUUUUCK

[marsh imp]

https://bsky.app/profile/deadbydaylight.com/post/3mgatjw6zkd2d

Dead by Daylight (@deadbydaylight.com)

With Phase 2, Verse 4 of The Grimoire now officially closed, it's time to reveal the results! ⬇️
📅 Check back in on March 19 for our community livestream and the next vote.

Bluesky · Mar 4, 2026, 5:44 PM

[rough turret]

what a crazy mistake

[marsh imp]

Believe me now?

[fickle scarab]

Literally just make the other design a legendary

[echo folio]

That was the only thing that was different? wow

[vague crater]

chorus of sin, the judgement, staff, radiant, aurora, earring, purple robe

[quaint thistle]

Im happy its only the killer that was wrong but yeah, funny this happened

[placid ibex]

to cut BHVR some slack

the entire community was just referring to them as “1 and 2” snd BHVR couldn’t even get the order straight

[gaunt dawn]

cant do that 1 for 1 but they could do something similar

[placid ibex]

The social media intern prolly got confused

[vague crater]

fair

[quaint thistle]

Nah, they have a whole vote system in place.

[gaunt dawn]

Well at least they corrected it quickly, thank goodness it didnt go on for a couple more hours

[vague crater]

but holy shit of course its bhvr having this happen LMAO

[fickle scarab]

Im actually pissed off