grimoire-discussion

[exotic flower]

staff is sadly gonna win and its such a lame weapon

[old steeple]

Its gon a be the meat amalgamation. Just let me dream

[exotic flower]

staff is so simular to trickster

let us have a unique weapon for once

[old steeple]

That hammer or flail better with

[exotic flower]

not just generic knife/sword

[tropic willow]

Tbh the hammer is unique ill admit but i just think it looks ugly future skins might look good if wins

[fickle scarab]

Thats not accurate. What we voted for the communiter interpreted as having spider legs. I dont think thats what they originally had in mind.

The final voting options are split between an actual spider themed design and a dedign more in line with the base silhoette.

[tropic willow]

The hammer just looks ugly af, the flail i think looks the coolest design wise. And the staff looks like it got stolen from an anime magical school girl

[exotic flower]

hopefully they change the hammer look

[tropic willow]

If the staff wins they better make a F’d up magical school girl skin

[tropic willow]

Agreed i wont mind the hammer at that point

[exotic flower]

a hammer mori just has so much potential to be so much more brutal than any generic slashing weapon

[old steeple]

Ugh i really dont want the meat amalgamation. I wish the was a way to see real time updates on the voting

[tropic willow]

I just want a rapture mori send the survivors to the sky

[exotic flower]

honestley i feel like this is gonna be a plague situation

[tropic willow]

Call it the ban hammer and mori yeets them to heaven

[exotic flower]

where this angels god is actually the entity

also helps explain the spider legs as thats what the entity is known for

[tropic willow]

Thats why ive been saying it might be an avatar for the entity

[exotic flower]

its defenetley entity made it feels

[tropic willow]

Like this is the entitys attempt as a self insert lol

[fickle scarab]

I imagine this figure will be a seperate old one unrelated to The Entity.

[exotic flower]

it feels like the entity tried to make an angel but this is what it ended up with

[robust bloom]

if they do another community voted chapter I hope they make it so we can see the progress on which options have the most votes

[tropic willow]

If they do another one they better actually let us vote for crap properly

[exotic flower]

at least noones complained about this being rigged like every other vote ever

[fickle scarab]

This would be a terrible idea as it would would result in votes becoming lopsided

[tropic willow]

Like why were we given pretty much finished survivors

[exotic flower]

itd also just generate more hate

[tropic willow]

We should of had race/species, looks and so on as options before they started the art phase

I would of killed for a non human survivor

[robust bloom]

i do understand having a mostly solid character design for the sake making it easy on the company but i do think we should have been able to have more input on things

[tropic willow]

Like they clearly had the survivors in mind from the start based off how it was presented

[old steeple]

Yes

[tropic willow]

The survivor just feels like it wasnt really community made outside of lore

[old steeple]

Your s terrible idea!!!!!

[robust bloom]

like yeah we got to pick 1 of 4 but they seem to be already fully thought out vibes and design goals

[tropic willow]

Exactly we had like zero input on them

Oh well im not dissapointed atm though as long as she ends up as a cool fortune teller mystic

[exotic flower]

the hammer might just be cope because of how badly i want karl heisenberg in the game tbh

[tropic willow]

Tbh i could see them putting him in eventually as long as its not the damn fetus. I hated that level

[exotic flower]

people are saying demitresque or jack baker though

[fickle scarab]

RE5 Chris as the killer

[old steeple]

Jack baker would be so dang cool

[tropic willow]

I think shes too tall shes taller than the killer shack lol

[stiff pollen]

he would be too op

[limber zodiac]

I went back to check my vote, and had to vote again because none of it went through apparently.

[exotic flower]

yeah but heisenberg

[old steeple]

Ima kill that bolder punching asshole

[stiff pollen]

magneto type killer would go so hard

[limber zodiac]

[exotic ember]

how do i check to see if it goes through

[limber zodiac]

Just revisit the page and see if it asks you to vote again.

[green palm]

Ngl the new killer shouldn't have a weapon at all and have like a spider leg as its attack

[tropic willow]

Agreed or with its wings

[green palm]

Yee cause like now it looks crowded asf

[gaunt dawn]

YES

"Staff superiority, Flail or Fail, Hammers for homies."

Get your slogans right here!

I think its supposed to be vague enough to be either, arguably the ethereal option does not connect the legs to the body

[wheat kayak]

yeahhh thats why i didnt like the staff or the hammer too much but the flail felt too similar to plague's weapon

[green palm]

Truee but seeing how the legs could not be connected to the body that could've been a better usage of the floating legs

[wheat kayak]

went with the hammer since it felt fitting with like, the "painful" look

[wheat kayak]

could make for a nice mori too

[green palm]

Ohh a slight crucifixion mori would be cool

[wheat kayak]

though i guess you gotta have the "weapon" visible from the killer's perspective during gameplay

wouldnt be easy to make that happen if the supposed weapon is like, naturally below your waist

[green palm]

Isn't the ghoul guy weapon above hes head lol

[wheat kayak]

yeah, but that is a kagune (basically an organic weapon that only ghouls and half-ghouls have in the anime that kaneki is from) that is able to stretch as seen with the m2
this new killer's spider leg thingy is a whole solid part of them which without a doubt would be used, well, as legs
maybe if there were more legs and two specifically higher, it could work?

im thinking more like big claws but that feels unlikely to work the more i compare the idea to both designs

also side note kinda hoping "the apocalypse" isnt gonna be the most voted cause it feels wayyy too similar to plague especially if the flail wins too

[green palm]

Plague doesnt really feel apocalyptic tho it gives off just nurgle wibes

[restive kite]

2v8 lobby with two predropping sables

ones running around dropping it when the killer aint even there

[wheat kayak]

"apocalypse" and "plague" both imply large destruction on the world, no?

they imply wide impacts on the world if its better said that way

[green palm]

Trueee

[gaunt dawn]

I figure knight, plague and our new grimoire killer would make for a solid crusade

Im fine with flail, but I just preffer staff

I like how the flail has faces

[restive kite]

I saw a mori concept where the killer telekinetically lifts up the player, and their mouth and eyes start glowing golden, before the survivor just evaporates after a massive light implosion.

Very nice concept if I've ever seen one.

[green palm]

That is boring asf😭

[viral escarp]

I'd like to see you come up with a better mori concept.

[green palm]

Anything is better then just simply lifting the survivors off the ground and giving em the the imploded effect

[gaunt dawn]

How about a beam behind them and it slowly pulls them inside while the survivor tries to crawl away from it. The pull is too strong and they dissapear into the light

what are people saying on twitter?

[winged nexus]

For the divine i thought it would include some mystic powers or maybe possibly turning the player into a wretched angel of some kind and watch them suffer

[cobalt ivy]

just fucking rapture them

[winged nexus]

🤯

[cobalt ivy]

you initiate the mori and the survivor starts fucking flying

[gaunt dawn]

Its important that the survivor tries to claw at the ground desperately

[cobalt ivy]

alternatively i like a 🙉🙈🙊 approach

hear no evil, see no evil, speak no evil

[gaunt dawn]

what do you mean?

[winged nexus]

I feel we need more moris with the survivors fighting back atleast slightly like Legions for example

[gaunt dawn]

yes!

[cobalt ivy]

it's a very common saying and is often associated with religious villains like in cult of the lamb

[winged nexus]

Them just being helpless feels so unsatysfying

[gaunt dawn]

Wesker has one but its a weak punch

[winged nexus]

imo many of the current moris feel unsatysfying because its just either killer taking them down with one punch or the mori being so out of place
bc wdym you were just chased by the killer but now looking around confused

[cobalt ivy]

i like the knight's

[gaunt dawn]

knights is like an elegant dance with his homies

theres a rythme to it, a flow

oh you know what would fit this killer? Imagine if the survivor begged

it would be kinda funny for some characters like trevor for example but it would be fitting

[cobalt ivy]

the survivor kneeling for mercy...

[gaunt dawn]

it would fit

I mean, it would be pathetic for the survivor but it would fit

[cobalt ivy]

exactly

shit i might play this killer

[gaunt dawn]

Im really, really hoping its radiant. I feel strongly about that. If its not ethereal it feels like it would feel more eldirtch and be yet another abomination of flesh. Like Billy, dredge, vecna, singularity, krasue

[cobalt ivy]

the body horror does get fatiguing

im sick of everything being flesh or plague give us more variation

[gaunt dawn]

Well, its mind blowing when you are like..... 12

like woah, look how extreme it is, in a thrilling way

but just like jumpscares it gets so overdone it just stops working

[cobalt ivy]

im mostly immune to horror visuals i just want cool aesthetics man

[gaunt dawn]

Im glad we are getting a divine angel killer, some debate if it isnt fleshy it isnt considered corrupted but Im going to respond with this, do they not see the noodles of eyes?

The eyes are so much more noticable in the radiant one

not to mention skin potential

Ill admit my bias here, Im a fan of wizards and spellcasters. I really like Vecna and Dracula. Psychics are good too, I like the other vecna.

[gray forge]

what surv name did u guys choose

[gaunt dawn]

it seems like a lot of people are split between grace and aurora but grace seems to be winning

If any devs are reading, I really hope this angel talks with multilayered multigendered voices.

also latin choir, organ and bells for chase music

[gray forge]

nooo imogen is so good😭

[winged nexus]

Imogen

Grace and Aurora are so basic

[gaunt dawn]

I mean, Im not particularly bothered either way

[onyx geyser]

this is grimiore discussion btw, also what else do you want them to do? let you do the gens

[peak python]

Yh ik deleting it now didn’t mean to x

[half coral]

I can't help but chuckle a lil bit imagining the killer scuttling along with all it's legs

[deft minnow]

Mf Gonna be running at you like:

https://tenor.com/view/monsters-inc-mrwaternoose-jeffbezos-gif-22414942

[feral flare]

Sorry, did you just call BILLY and SINGULARITY eldritch??

[gaunt dawn]

I mean, I get what you are talking about, but my point being how fleshy all of them are

take any silent hill creature for example, all of them contorted bodies, fleshy. little nightmares, amnesia, resident evil, dead space

Just fleshy blobs

[hoary crater]

That's propably even close to the real animation. I guesse the spider legs of the final model will be pointing more to the side and not straight down like in the concepts.

[gaunt dawn]

meanwhile look at games like diablo, the serephim for example is much scarier

or better yet radiance from hollow knight!!

[warped mortar]

Damn they did so well on this vote... i like all 3 of them.

[gaunt dawn]

the names are all pretty good for chapter, killer and survivor

[warped mortar]

I think I like ashes of absolution the most 🙂 clicked it immediately when I saw the choices lol

[gaunt dawn]

I went with chorus of sin

[deft minnow]

Chorus of sin for the win!

[main eagle]

Chorus of sin better win

[tropic drum]

yeah i voted chorus of sin

[sinful crown]

Same

[vague crater]

grace was my choice just cause it lines up with the whole divine thing

[vague crater]

thats body horror not eldritch horror

[deft minnow]

I'd say that for this killer, N1 is more in the realm of uncanny valley/marionette horror, while N2 is more eldrich

[marsh imp]

Hi all! 👋🏻

[deft minnow]

Hello my good sir

[marsh imp]

That's why I chose Imogen. It means innocent.

[azure garnet]

I chose Imogen because I thought it sounded funny

[deft minnow]

I picked Imogen cuz it sounded like a painkiller lol

[azure garnet]

You know what, it kinda does sound like a painkiller.

[marsh imp]

Imagine if she gets Altruism based perks.

Though truth be told I don't remember what style of perks actually won for the Survivor? Or was that whole choice meant to enhance the background of the character?

[hoary crater]

Boldness won for the survivor. My guess the perks will revolve around getting benefits by staying in the killers terror radius while not being detected.

[tropic willow]

The etherial one looks like its still connected to me

[marsh imp]

Thank you. 🙂

[crude siren]

can we pick judgement?

[calm rain]

I have returned. . . Hi :3

How tall cuties doin

[fickle scarab]

No

[fickle scarab]

I imagine judgement is probably gonna win

[calm rain]

Probs but I do hope apocalypse wins

[crude siren]

i want it to win becuase ultrakill

[calm rain]

lol

[tropic willow]

Imogen doesnt sound like a female name to me though

Thats why i picked Aurora sounded pretty and fit with me wanting her to be a mystic/fortune teller

[modest gull]

Which weapon did y'all voted for?

[calm rain]

Flail- it was that or the hammer

[modest gull]

I chose the hammer it looks cool.

[calm rain]

Sweet

[modest gull]

I hope the staff doesn't win. Flail and hammer are cool.

[calm rain]

Eh

I’m okay if the staff wins.. I’ll just be disappointed

[echo folio]

I chose the flail. I would love to smack people around

[deft minnow]

Flail for the win

[echo folio]

Chorus of sins is such a good chapter title

[deft minnow]

Fr

[blazing jolt]

Get this man a true

[trail moth]

When will this chapter be made?

[marsh imp]

Funny thing is, is that it is a female name.

[marsh imp]

It's being made right now.

[trail moth]

When will it be released

Like 5 months

[marsh imp]

We can assume around September at earliest.

[marsh imp]

Hammer because I want to beat a Meg with it. 😈

[modest gull]

Yeah lol a smashin survivors with hammer will be so satisfying .

[trail moth]

And dwight.

I wanna hit the toxic survivors on hook so many times with it

I hope it has a good satisfying sound

[shell gate]

I voted Imogen it just fits honestly🤷‍♀️

[plush oracle]

The staff

[shell gate]

Flailllll 🙂‍↕️

[modest gull]

Oh. Nice. The staff looked the least interesting to me.

[plush oracle]

We Alr got flail killers and i think staff would be like good with the theme of holy, heaven and judge

[plush oracle]

Yeah me too

[shell gate]

honestly I do agree with that

[plush oracle]

It sounds like a old women name

Idk

[shell gate]

I agree with that too, all the other ones sounded young, and also I liked how almost like “brooding” the name sounded

[eternal vale]

Grimoire Diacussion

[plush oracle]

Yeah

There was another good one but i dont remember what it was

[shell gate]

I liked Aurora a little, I thought it fitted the theme

[plush oracle]

For me it is a good name but it remembers me of the Disney princess so I prefer imogen

[shell gate]

Yeaahhhh true

[shell gate]

There was Grace an Michelle

[plush oracle]

Michelle was the worst in my opinion

[shell gate]

yeah. 😭😭

It sounds like a 30 year old Karen🥲

[plush oracle]

Yeah fr

Imogen is like a diferent name and it sounds very old so i liked it

Grace is very like basic ahh name

And aurora sounds like a blonde young women

[shell gate]

Imogen is just like the only one there that fit her

[plush oracle]

Yeah

[marsh imp]

Imogen gang rise up!

[echo folio]

Meanwhile Imogen was the name after Michelle and grace I said fit the least. Aurora is perfect for her

[bronze geyser]

I literally picked exactly this with the name Aurora

[onyx geyser]

andddd everyone sits.

[marsh imp]

Oh fudge off! There are plenty of Imogen enjoyers! 😭

[shell gate]

Weeee love Imogen

[fervent lotus]

Why aren't there any comepetent players anymore?

Oops, wrong chat😭😂 sorry

[gusty cipher]

was about to say💀

[median tree]

I stan Imogen and The JUdgement

[warped aspen]

in Survivor - Phase 2, Verse 4, i cant choose which outfit i like more 😭

[echo folio]

You mean it won't let you vote or you're incapable of deciding

[warped aspen]

incapable of deciding

i just went with the purple one

[rough turret]

I chose imogen and exalted

[warped aspen]

also if the judgement name for killer and staff weapon doesnt win imma riot

[echo folio]

I also went with the purple one

Imma riot if the Apocalypse isn't the killer name

[rough turret]

the more muted purple will look really nice with the pinkish head band

I won't riot but I will be a little bit sad if exalted doesn't win

[echo folio]

I just want to shoot my beams of light with a flail in hand while I cause the Apocalypse by just existing

[rough turret]

I did choose the mace weapon

[echo folio]

Thank you

[modest gull]

The apocalypse name is so perfect.

[low condor]

imogen and judgement for me

[vivid root]

We’re do I go to vote for “the last word” xoxo 😘

[vague crater]

I dont understand why there are people upset at the angel being feminine
"oh i want it to be androgynous" be fr bhvr wouldnt know how to do that properly and it would just look like a guy

[midnight summit]

when does the voting end?

[vague crater]

also like
angels are normally depicted as feminine
even if they are men

[lavish niche]

i chose aurora and fuckin exalted

[lavish niche]

🤔

[vague crater]

mf can you read

[onyx geyser]

the angel we're voting for isnt biblical

[vague crater]

I literally said in the TEXT YOU REPLIED TO
"depicted as feminine even if they are men"

[lavish niche]

and that says "angels are primarily depicted as male"

[modest gull]

The killer should not be either feminine or masculine bruh. The killer shouldn't even have a gender. It's supposed to be a godlike entity.

[vague crater]

this dumbass bro

[lavish niche]

lol yeah honestly

[vague crater]

do you know what feminine means

[lavish niche]

yes

[broken rapids]

Can we play

[vague crater]

does it mean "automatically 100% female"?

or "this is a woman"?
cause thats what you are acting like i am saying

[modest gull]

Yup

[lavish niche]

you say they are depicted as female, that says they are depicted as male

[vague crater]

feminine doesnt mean female

hence why i said feminine and not female
literally said "feminine even if they are men"

cause they are depicted as feminine
even though they are men

besides my main argument is that bhvr wouldnt be able to get androgyny right unless its inhuman
which it should of been but still

or just being like yubel

one half male one half female

[gaunt dawn]

I was confident the ethereal one would win but now Im not sure

[vague crater]

I dont mind if the unholy one wins
but id prefer the holy one winning

[modest gull]

Judgement doesn't sound that good imo. Apocalypse would be perfect

[vague crater]

but the staff fits the unholy ones design better

[raw breach]

leaning towards “the exalted,” what did you guys choose

[vague crater]

i chose exalted
cause its the best option

[lavish niche]

i love both of them, but i feel like the "fallen angel" one is just cooler

[onyx geyser]

Judgement

[gaunt dawn]

They are both a twisted unholy IMO. Look at all those eyes on the ethereal ones body

[lavish niche]

exalted

[vague crater]

well the descriptions say the fleshy one is "unholy"
so thats just how ive split them up in my brain

[robust mulch]

I like judgement but id be fine with exalted too

[onyx geyser]

anyone else think it'd sound unnatural when ur swf and saying 'ohhh its the judgement'

[vague crater]

if pyramid head didnt steal the name the executioner would fit the angel

[robust mulch]

Do we agree that imogen is the best name

[vague crater]

since its literally an executioner of sinners

[gaunt dawn]

Anyway to add to the feminine. Someone here suggested we remove the breasts and I like that idea. It puts it more in that androgynous category.

But I do acknowledge that some angels in some lores are transsexual

[onyx geyser]

no we dont

[vague crater]

ehh
it doesnt really

[modest gull]

No

[robust mulch]

no yes you do

[onyx geyser]

no I hate all imogens ive met

[robust mulch]

YES YOU DO

[vague crater]

someone did that and it just looked like a guy
it should be like yubels chest where its both

[raw breach]

chose exalted

okay what next y’all

[modest gull]

Grace is best imo.

[gusty cipher]

how many imogens have u met

[gusty cipher]

i picked aurora

[vague crater]

yubel is the goat of being androgynous

[robust mulch]

i pick imogen

[broken rapids]

Can we play

[robust mulch]

although im fine with aurora too

[raw breach]

https://tenor.com/view/invader-zim-who-are-you-i-am-zim-who-are-you-gif-13280270808180518463

[robust mulch]

wrong channel

[raw breach]

idk guys im leaning grace. she looks like a grace to me

that said tho ive no strong feelings on this one. ultimately im happy we got granny

[vague crater]

i chose grace cause its an old lady name but also fits with the divine theme

[modest gull]

Yess. Grace for the win

[vague crater]

cause like
the grace of god and all that

[raw breach]

yeah yeah

[onyx geyser]

3

[gusty cipher]

i picked aurora since thats one of my friends names so i chose it to honor her in a sense

[modest gull]

I picked chorus of sin.

[robust mulch]

nobody picking the last word

[raw breach]

all of these sound so rad im so stuck

[lavish niche]

i took ashes of absolution

[modest gull]

The last word sounds lame af. It's either the first or second.

[raw breach]

okay fair

[lavish niche]

lol yeah 100%

[robust mulch]

ashes of absolution and chorus of sin both sound sick though

[vague crater]

im nobody I guess

[raw breach]

true

leaning chorus of sin

[robust mulch]

chorus of sin rolls off the tongue better tho

[raw breach]

it really does huh

[lavish niche]

thats true, i just feel like ashes of absolution is just cooler even if its harder to say

[modest gull]

Chorus of sin also fits the lore of the killer as well

[raw breach]

tbh even tho im voting chorus, is be okay with either

[lavish niche]

yeah they are both amazing

[gusty cipher]

ashes of absolution all the way

[gaunt dawn]

What do we actually know about the lore though?

I have my own ideas but I dont think anything is set in stone

[sour schooner]

So like who else went the flail?

[gaunt dawn]

Flail and staff are the most popular options

[modest gull]

Um not so much but it's related to sin and stuff and the killer is supposed to be some godlike entity.

[raw breach]

i went staff

[honest lichen]

i hope the staff doesnt get picked cause the m1 would be weird

[gusty cipher]

me

[deft minnow]

Flail is the best choice

[hexed geyser]

literally

[feral flare]

It’s literally just “the last breath” LOL

[modest gull]

Exactly lol no way that is winning

[fickle scarab]

The base angels in SMTV were androngynous

[feral flare]

It just sounds goofy by itself too

[fickle scarab]

Less so in the english version due to having an expicitly male voice though

[vague crater]

it should of been like these

[calm rain]

Agree

💯%

[vague crater]

the blank face would of made more sense for it too

[calm rain]

It definitely should be blank

Would have picked it- if it was blank

[gaunt dawn]

I think we should as a community be able to submit ideas for skins for the winner

[gaunt dawn]

Also I LOVE your design

[vague crater]

it wasnt mine
hold on let me find the post again

[gaunt dawn]

the design you posted though is exactly the kind of thing I was thinking of

[vague crater]

it was posted on reddit by Imaginary-Act98

its in the dbd reddit

[gaunt dawn]

only thing I would change is this

OOOH WAIT, I HAVE A FANTASTIC IDEA

[vague crater]

but yeah its peak
less human but still humanoid
And properly androgynous rather than just
thin man with long hair like most people seem to think means androgynous

[vague crater]

if the baba yaga huntress skin didnt steal the concept i would of said two masks split down the middle

[gaunt dawn]

if ethereal wins, THIS COULD BE THE MASURADE MASK IT GETS! Something like this

[vague crater]

I dont think they are doing masquerade anymore

[gusty cipher]

they are stopping twisted masquerade

[vague crater]

i think they are replacing it with another theme for the next anniversary
yeah thought so-

[gaunt dawn]

they are stopping the event specifically

[gusty cipher]

ya

[vague crater]

sad cause masquerade is peak

[gusty cipher]

yeah they are gonna do a diff theme from now on

[gaunt dawn]

they will continue to make masquerade masks

[gusty cipher]

idk but i hope

[calm rain]

We need a legendary skin where it was the other silhouette

[vague crater]

or a legendary skin thats the other "final design" that we are voting for now

[prisma python]

Question is anyone else having issue with the grimoire? I'm trying to vote for the ethereal actual angelic looking one and it refuses to let me vote for it. It's only highlighting the grotesque version. O_O

[vague crater]

like if unholy flesh angel wins then the divine beauty one gets a legendary skin
and vice versa

cause the rest would need substantial changes to fit with the body

[gaunt dawn]

yeah Id be great with that

[vague crater]

but they are literally based on the same silhouette so its not like it would be too out there

[gaunt dawn]

only problem is, the flesh one has crab legs

[vague crater]

both of them have them

[calm rain]

Ye

[fickle scarab]

I dont think its worth discussing what the designs could have been

[gaunt dawn]

there is a signficant difference, the ethereal one does not look actually connected but rather suspended, meanwhile the meaty one looks like one of these things from Abes Oddysee

[prisma python]

Guessing that's a no?

[vague crater]

I mean if anything it might be added as a skin

OH SHIT
community contests are going to FUCK with the angels design

[gaunt dawn]

I wouldnt mind if we got ethereal and it got a meaty skin though

[gaunt dawn]

FOR SURE! I look forward to it

[vague crater]

cause its bhvr original
so people can submit skins for it

[gaunt dawn]

Ive said this since we only had silhouettes and a theme. This is going to have amazing skin potential

[calm rain]

Definitely

OH!

[gaunt dawn]

If we get the meaty design I hope we get something that hides those nasty legs and restores its feathers

[gaunt dawn]

I dont know why we cant have a skin that removes the legs completely

[calm rain]

Remember this?

[vague crater]

I do wonder how itll fit through doors with those big ass legs

[gaunt dawn]

I just dont like them, I preffer the other ones that are more pylon like

[vague crater]

cause it cant be any wider than nemesis
Pretty sure hes the widest killer anyway

[prisma python]

Why did we even get spider legs to begin with? LIke who voted for that?

[vague crater]

or at least cant be wider than a door
which means it wont be that tall

[fickle scarab]

They did say that making it fit through doors was a challenge

[vague crater]

the majority of people voting clearly since it won

[gaunt dawn]

some people didnt vote for it because of the "spider legs" It was up for interpretation enough

[calm rain]

Fold em-

[calm rain]

Legendary skins

[prisma python]

Maybe

[gaunt dawn]

there are no black lines that touch the body

[severe fern]

Lilith omen was onto something

[calm rain]

I did :D

[fickle scarab]

Female figure. Also a ton of people thought the idea of spider legs was cool.

The silhoette didnt even have spider legs either. The community just interpetted it as that and one if the designs was made to reflect that.

[prisma python]

Feel like we have enough monstrous looking creatures in dbd

[gaunt dawn]

I figured they were more like pylons that floated around it

[gaunt dawn]

Im gushing over the design avery shared

if that was a skin I would buy it at launch

if this design wins there should be 2 skins.
One that adds more of the meaty corruption look to it and another that is more like the one avery posted

that way everyones happy

[vague crater]

if her head/upper half isnt smaller than a normal person she would be around this size

[severe fern]

We only have like 7 actually monstrous looking killers

Out of like 42

[gaunt dawn]

are you counting nemesis?

[vague crater]

so around nemesis' height for her head and then even taller for her wings

[severe fern]

I wouldn’t say he’s actually monstrous. But including him, 8

Since he’s so humanoid

[gaunt dawn]

dracula is pretty tall too, especially since he floats

[vague crater]

and then we have 1 non humanoid one

[calm rain]

DO NOT FORGET ABOUT MY XENO QUEEN. She a giant

[vague crater]

shes actually not

[gaunt dawn]

Dracula, when you consider his height and the fact he floats, he gets pretty up there

[prisma python]

I'd say quite a large number of them, more than 7 are actually monstrous it appearance but that comes dow nto ones definition I suppose.

[gaunt dawn]

and yes the xeno noggin is quite huge

[vague crater]

in game at least
in the lobby they size her up and give her a different stance to make her a lot bigger

[calm rain]

Nanie-

[severe fern]

If you consider gross looking monstrous, sure

[vague crater]

queen lobby vs game vs regular xeno

[calm rain]

Huh

[gaunt dawn]

with those legs, assuming they are disconnected, I can see her just hovering lower on her legs going through a door

[calm rain]

She is still kinda big

[gaunt dawn]

wouldnt be that hard to program/animate either

[vague crater]

if you look up it makes the height difference even closer since her head crest is the only thing that makes her taller than the regular xeno

[prisma python]

Yeah queen xeno in match is so tiny X_X

[gaunt dawn]

picture with me, her body sinking lower between her legs as she goes through the doorway

[calm rain]

Huh… at least she has some ||cake||

Heh

[vague crater]

i assume thats how she will vault

kinda like xeno crawling over it but just like
the first two legs reach over, she sinks down slightly
then the front two pull her over and pull the back two over

[gaunt dawn]

in my mind those legs are more like floating pylons and she floats in the middle suspended

[vague crater]

https://tenor.com/view/hop-horse-ride-travel-dog-gif-16669793

[calm rain]

Or maybe she could turn into PURE light and goes through the valt

[vague crater]

would be too peak

[gaunt dawn]

yeah, like dracula style

[vague crater]

i still was hoping she would have a part of her power be to do with blinding
but oh well

[calm rain]

Yeah..

[gaunt dawn]

lol maybe that can be a perk, wouldnt that be funny?

Imagine the killer getting a perk that can blind survivors

[vague crater]

I mean two can play exists

[calm rain]

Use your killers power to temporarily blind someone and have [input timer]

[gaunt dawn]

I mean something more reliable

[vague crater]

yeah...

[gaunt dawn]

like, maybe if I kick a gen I blind survivors working on other gens

[calm rain]

HELL YEAH

[gaunt dawn]

or maybe something like, after kicking a gen, my next landed attack blinds the survivor

it doesnt have to be a long blind, just a few second

[calm rain]

I want revenge for those damn bullys

[gaunt dawn]

it would be really hilarious, like, I dont even care if its powerful

[calm rain]

Yes.

I CAST HEAVENLY LIGHT!

[gaunt dawn]

LOL

[calm rain]

Maybe that cane be the perk name

[vague crater]

https://tenor.com/view/fire-boom-akagi-azur-lane-hot-gif-20948624

[gaunt dawn]

Divine light

[echo folio]

Hex: Retribution

[gaunt dawn]

I think it would be a wasted oppertunity not to include some kind of perk that blinds

[gaunt dawn]

what anime is that from?

[calm rain]

Jujitsu kaisan

[echo folio]

What is the least likely perk we could get for the killer, an invocation?

[calm rain]

I hope I said it correctly

[unborn plank]

Hi guyz

[gaunt dawn]

I would love to see killers get invocations

I think vecna should have gotten one

[echo folio]

As would i

[calm rain]

A perk where you straight up randomly teleport to a random location

[echo folio]

Hey I suggested that perk years ago

[calm rain]

Lmao

[echo folio]

To help slow killers like trapper

[gaunt dawn]

a perk that lets you teleport to a survivor players house and unplug their console/pc in front of their face before leaving

[echo folio]

What

[calm rain]

Potential skin

Hear me out

[vague crater]

gangalang

what is that 😭

[echo folio]

I am listening

[vague crater]

no WE aint

[calm rain]

-# new id get funny reactions >:)

[echo folio]

I was trying to be nice

[calm rain]

Heheh

Maybe like are other killer that has the ghost in a sheet

[echo folio]

I guess for the community outfit contest I'll just give the grimoire killer a stained glass motif for the outfit especially the wings

[calm rain]

Hell yeah

Stained glass

Or this

Would not mind

[vague crater]

like the last(?) rift

[echo folio]

Believe it or not I like the option we have now more but I used to love that image right there

[vague crater]

i was hoping that was a hint towards teh killer

[echo folio]

Exactly

[calm rain]

Ooooo

Maybe it was???

Who wants a random meme

[gaunt dawn]

I think Reverence should get a redemption

Reverence is a good concept

the biggest issue was every skin had 3 variants

[calm rain]

Oohh

[gaunt dawn]

I still do play the white varients of the skins for yun and vittorio

[calm rain]

Wish I hade that..

[gaunt dawn]

People were hating on this rift relentlessly

I think it was a bit overhated

[calm rain]

Agree

[onyx geyser]

trust this looks so much better with her blue skirt or base skirt

[calm rain]

I don’t see the reason to hate—

[gaunt dawn]

this was one of the first times we got like 20-30 more levels of rift to complete and deep rift had like 3-4 varients of the same thing repeating over and over

not to mention at the time a very niche theme considering nothing else in the game really matches it.

With a divine killer I think it would compliment it well though

[calm rain]

Agree!!

[calm rain]

Love it

[gaunt dawn]

Also the shattered window badge is amazing

As I said undrrated rift and I hope they attempt it again

or make a rift to compliment our new grimoire killer

I do feel strongly that for the killer we should get 2 skins. one that plays more into the corruption aspect and another that plays more into the divine aspect.

[calm rain]

Agree

[gaunt dawn]

I cross my fingers and hope every day that a dev is actually reading what we are saying here and not just popping up rarely only catching the high traffic discussions

[calm rain]

Here’s a random meme :D

[gaunt dawn]

stuff like that Im always afraid will cause a team member to just skim discussions, lol

[vague crater]

I love the hair on that
i dont really use the body and legs just cause yun-jin has so many good cosmetics

[gaunt dawn]

she does, but honestly this one is still my favorite yunjin skin

Yun also has the Juni ito skin and "feathered presence"

one of the big mistakes they made in reverence I think is not leading with the bright variants of the skins

I wish I could say I liked the Claudette one but I didnt

I do think that the blue variant she got fit her better

I use "downfall in blue" as my default claudette skin though

[rough turret]

are the votes over or is the website just broken

[gaunt dawn]

the website is down from time to time, should be back up right now though

[rough turret]

weird, my friend was trying a couple hours ago and it still wont work

[gaunt dawn]

have you tried voting in game?

[rough turret]

oh I didn't know you could

I did it on the website but they'll have to try when they get their ps5 back

[gaunt dawn]

https://thegrimoire.deadbydaylight.com/ well see if this works

[open island]

behaviour. I, an investor, would like to make a request.

[calm rain]

LMAO

YES

[open island]

why do you think Sadako convinced me to play Dead by Daylight

(not objectifying not objectifying not objectifying not objectifying not objectifying not objectifying not objectifying not objectifying not objectifying)

[echo folio]

I suspect otherwise but cannot prove it

[stray forge]

Have yall seen the new grimoire thing in dbd

[gusty cipher]

people were hating on the reverence rift too much imo

i personally thought it was OKAY, not god awful

[fresh badger]

anyone know why i can't vote on the grimoire

[obsidian shell]

Press the next arrow thingy

[fresh badger]

i did, i can't touch any of the options

[obsidian shell]

Oh

Have you already voted maybe?

[fresh badger]

nope

[obsidian shell]

Try refreshing otherwise idkkk

ALSO ARCANE IS PEAKKK

[tropic willow]

Their size when voted on it

[vague crater]

oh right i forgor about that

so i wasnt far off considering dwights gamer neck

[oak veldt]

I feel like the flail is an absolute must. It’s so unique and has so much potential compared to a hammer or maul

[quaint token]

plague

[oak veldt]

I mean it’s what I’m going to be staring at so I’d want it to be better than just a block attached to a stick

Block attached to a swinging chain? Now that’s content

[echo folio]

Flail is the best weapon option I saw

[obsidian shell]

100% agree

[vague crater]

Now this would of been peak for the divine killers head

[raw breach]

idk i like what we’re about to get more tbh

[raw breach]

idk i think the staff looked really good

[royal knot]

When do they reveal the winners of the vote?

[tropic willow]

The only unique one on the list is Hammer and i aint voting for that it doesnt look good imo. I voted flail

Since staff is already done too with Houndmaster

Flail just looks the best as they are now

Also matches the faces on both the leg designs

[tropic willow]

Normally 2 days or so after votes close

[old steeple]

It takes em 2 days to count the votes. This is sadening

[swift shell]

🤔

[tropic willow]

🤷‍♂️

[old steeple]

This game stressin me lowkey. I just wanna see the design. This is the last peice i need before i deside if im gonna play them alot or not.

[spring sparrow]

Was it ever mentioned that the silhouette 1 implied femininity or that it was subject to change when it was revealed?

I've been seeing a lot of comments saying it was clearly implied, but I'm not sure

[deft minnow]

The PNG used in the grimoire was literally named something like "Female silhouette", so yeah, it was 100% fully clear and transparent that it would be a woman

But people just wouldn't accept it despite it being right in front of them, and now they are pissed that it looks "too human"

[echo folio]

Some people live in denial look at Conformity Gate

[spring sparrow]

I'm a bit confused here. Isn't it 100% fully clear and transparent only if this PNG name was mentioned publicly?

Is this the case?

[echo folio]

Not everyone bless their hearts actually read the names of the files

[spring sparrow]

So it was not clearly implied?

[deft minnow]

Anybody could snatch it out of the grimoire and see, plus there were both posts discussing it on Twitter and Reddit, so it wasn't really a secret

[echo folio]

^

[spring sparrow]

To be fair, not every part of the community that voted for the silhouette can be assumed to check social medias about it

[echo folio]

To be fair~

Sorry needed to quote letter kenny

[spring sparrow]

I'm sorry if that sounded offensive. I'm not trying to debate here. I just wanna know if there's any source to this implication or not

Implication, as in, stated by the devs on the live stream or mentioned on their social media, etc.

[deft minnow]

If you don't care enough to see other people's opinions on the vote on the server or the social media, then the vote clearly doesn't matter to you, if a person actually cared, they would have 100% found out, even by putting in the most minimal of effort

[tropic willow]

Mate some of us are on mobile and cant see file names

[spring sparrow]

Well, I'm not completely against that sentiment, but that's not how I would safely assume.

[deft minnow]

But you can see the people in this chat discussing it as well as the people on literally every single platform, it was legit everywhere

[tropic willow]

Also it was either vague male shape or vague female shape or giant head we didnt have much of a choice tbh

[tropic willow]

Not everyone uses social media

[deft minnow]

Discord is a social media...

[spring sparrow]

Some of them could've voted through the links within the game

[tropic willow]

Technically its a texting app with extra features

[deft minnow]

poteto potato

[spring sparrow]

That aside... is there a source to this implication I can check or not?

[tropic willow]

Thats like calling Skype social media. No one called it that

Im more saying stuff like Facebook, reddit, twitter, tiktok, youtube, so on

[deft minnow]

Skype is way more of a stretch from discord tho

[tropic willow]

Not really

[tropic willow]

Name me 5 differences

[spring sparrow]

...So from this conversation, I assume the answer is no

[deft minnow]

I haven't used Skype in like 6 years, I can't remember that shit

[spring sparrow]

right.

[tropic willow]

Exactly.

https://tenor.com/view/happy-dance-excited-crazy-tutu-ballet-gif-10652177

[deft minnow]

I could pick petty stuff tho, like roles, and making polls, and customizable profiles, badges, ect

[tropic willow]

You could customize skype profiles too.

[deft minnow]

Not to this extent

Nitro is also a thing

You couldnt have custom bots either

[cobalt ivy]

has a censer, not really a flail

[tropic willow]

Still either way theres not enough of a difference between the two to classify either as social media without classifying the other is my point. So discord doesnt count. Sides group chats are optional on both too

[deft minnow]

Dang... it's 4:24 AM, I should probably sleep

Welp

Cya

[tropic willow]

Night

[echo folio]

Goodnight

[gaunt dawn]

yes! what are you voting on? or are you going to give it some time to think about it?

[spiral tangle]

Need advice on how to blind killers

[gaunt dawn]

#game-questions

[gaunt dawn]

I always figured it would be something like feminine. Like bishonen

something more along the lines of androgynous

[broken rapids]

Dbd

[obsidian shell]

Wise words

[tropic willow]

https://tenor.com/view/patrick-star-no-this-is-patrick-spongebob-angry-mad-gif-9319809

[gaunt dawn]

I really do hope they consider more androgyny in the killers final design.

A layered voice of female and male voices. Her chest reduced to the point where it could be either gender.

[humble compass]

That's kind of what I like about the 2nd one's face, even though I voted for the first one. That facial shape looks to me like it could be any gender.

[gaunt dawn]

the light one or the meaty one?

[humble compass]

I voted for the light one because I preferred the wings and halo, but the meaty one I think has a better face.

[gaunt dawn]

I could go either way with the face, what I really want is actually this

[humble compass]

Yeah, I think my personal ideal version of an angel is one that fully exemplifies human beauty, but isn't really recognizably human. That kind of facial expression kept at all times, the face or skin being made of non-organic material, stuff like that.

(Or the angel being mechanical in some way, but that's a bit more niche I think)

[gaunt dawn]

uncanny perfection is more what I think of when I think of divine horror

[humble compass]

Yes, that's a good way of putting it actually. Perfection and beauty that is fully unapproachable.

[gaunt dawn]

You ever see someone with real wide eyes and eeriely perfect white straight teeth?

[humble compass]

It's one of those things where a few flaws makes someone seem less unsettling, you know?

[gaunt dawn]

like, the uncanny nature of this, is that her teeth are just straight, her eyes are so attenuative but you see the creases in her skin, there is an unnerving presence like she a bit too happy

[cobalt ivy]

she looks like a joker victim

[gaunt dawn]

I dont know where this screenshot comes from but I think its that smile movie

" a being that is so "correct" and powerful that your own existence feels small and fragile in comparison. "

[lavish crag]

What the sigma

[gaunt dawn]

talking about what divine horror means to me

A stare that sends shivers down your spine

[tropic willow]

This please

[midnight summit]

hmmm. going through the poll again now.

torn between the messenger, the exalted, and the apocalypse!

I'm also torn between Chorus of Sin and The Last Word

[torpid coral]

I picked the exalted and chorus of sin. I thought they fit the best (with help of my husbands opinion too)

[midnight summit]

oh nice!

i do feel like chorus of sin fits the most, especially with the potential idea that survivors may have to pray to cleanse themselves of sin

but for the exalted, im just imagining the scenario they pictured in the grimoire itself: a name being whispered by survivors. im not sure they'd whisper the exalted

[echo folio]

They whispered about The Apocalypse, killer of worlds, Bringer of the Collapse

[onyx geyser]

What killer should I play

[midnight summit]

Trapper <3

[onyx geyser]

haha blocked

[midnight summit]

HEY

[onyx geyser]

ill play nemesis for the first time

[tropic willow]

Nice pfp

[torpid coral]

Ty ty :3 I also have a Ghostface tattoo. (Just saw scream 7 last night)

[tropic willow]

Also same. Along with Aurora and these other 4 options

[tropic willow]

Nice! Im a ghostface main

[torpid coral]

The only difference between us is I picked the glasses and Grace for the name. But I think it’s obvious why I want her name to be Grace

[tropic willow]

Not a clue

https://tenor.com/view/nemia-fortnite-eating-gif-14117725731113411950

[onyx geyser]

Judgment, aurora, chorus of sin

[midnight summit]

Personally, I picked killer 1, outfit 2, and Imogen :>

[torpid coral]

[tropic willow]

Lmfao love how people ive never talked to are even using the edits i made

[onyx geyser]

gulp

[midnight summit]

Part of me wants to vote for the Judgement, but. We already have Pyramid Head and his Rite of Judgement

[tropic willow]

Or if i have i just forgot talking to you i have a horrible memory

[onyx geyser]

#grimoire-discussion message

[tropic willow]

My statement still stands though. Ive seen some people ive never seen comment before use them

But yeah i have a horrid memory

Also im tired i couldnt get much sleep last night

[onyx geyser]

playing my first nemesis game

[vague crater]

Radiant, staff, exalted, purple, purple, grace, the last word
all in on those

[calm rain]

I wish the plague doctor was in the game 😔

[onyx geyser]

same bru

[strange horizon]

I think the killer is ugly

[calm rain]

Heh-

Me when I hear zombies: OH! It’s nemesis thank god

Me when I hear “I am the cure”

[calm rain]

Witch one?

[onyx geyser]

I dont think I get it

[calm rain]

One of the plague doctors lines “I am the cure”

[onyx geyser]

plauge or doctor?

[calm rain]

Scp.

[onyx geyser]

oh...

[calm rain]

LMAO

[onyx geyser]

well no wondeer I didnt get it

[vague crater]

I hope the killer gets good cosmetics

[calm rain]

Agree

[vague crater]

I know the artists will cook with the concepts for the community votes but I hope she has at least one good launch skin

[onyx geyser]

I want them to get a legendary skin where it is like thiss

[vague crater]

If any killer gets a skin based on the entity it should be this one
Make the wings and stuff crow feathers and wings cause of the entity’s connection to them
Make the legs entity claws
Make it’s lower half between the legs fog

[onyx geyser]

I want a shape shifting killer so bad or one who mimics the entity

[vague crater]

The dredge should have an entity skin

[onyx geyser]

Id buy and main dredge if that happened

[calm rain]

Hell yeah

[vague crater]

Same

Demogorgon is the only killer with an entity themed skin
Which is stupid

Technically blight does but that’s more the flowers

[strange horizon]

All of them I don’t like the weird leg things

[calm rain]

Ah

[strange horizon]

Should of just made it float around

Instead of giving it those big ahh legs

[gaunt dawn]

At least I think with the radiant one it should be easy time make a skin without the legs. Meanwhile the meaty one looks like the legs will more heavily effect the way it moves and the type of skins it would get

[gaunt dawn]

Like Malphas from castlevania

[onyx geyser]

which one

[echo folio]

The only feels a little wrong

[fickle scarab]

base

[fickle scarab]

Thats not really an entity themed cosmetics. Its blight's blighted cosmetic

[vague crater]

the one you are hovering over

[onyx geyser]

this sight brought a tear to my eye

[strange horizon]

I own all 3 none of them are entity themed

[onyx geyser]

demo issnt even that good cuh

[strange horizon]

But the p100 banner is

[onyx geyser]

havent seen it

[strange horizon]

Very cool

So is stranger things vecna

[lilac kernel]

What names you guys voted for? I voted, The Judgment, Graces and Chorus of Sin

[echo folio]

I voted for The Apocalypse, Aurora and Chorus of Sin

[junior spindle]

Same, except I voted Aurora, I’m happy with all except one… can’t remember but it’s not Grace or Imogen

[echo folio]

Michelle

[junior spindle]

Michelle… yeah…

I’d just prefer unique names… Michonne and Michelle are very similar

[echo folio]

I just couldn't with Michelle or Imogen. I was fine with Grace or Aurora

[junior spindle]

🙂‍↕️

[mild siren]

The exalted, Aurora, AShes of absolution

went with the holy version, flail

[lean willow]

the mensagerm, ashes, imogen

guys wat u expected about mori killer vote ?

[fickle scarab]

No idea

Depends on the weapon I suppose

[echo folio]

I expect the survivor to ascend into the air before a ray of light burns them to ashes

[lean willow]

yes burn by sun light

[fickle scarab]

It should be like the scene from indiana jones where the nazis melt

[tropic willow]

Rapture the enemies or smite them

Hell would be cool if somehow turn them into statues of you (the killer) and turn them into shrines of your self

[gaunt dawn]

Rapture

a big light that sucks the survivors in while they are trying to crawl away

Something akin to dredge's mori

When are the votes counted?

[lean willow]

flashlight reverse

hehehe

[fickle scarab]

off topic but they need to buff two can play

make it so survivors are blinded for the same ammount of time the killer is stunned or blinded

[lean willow]

maybe separate body from soul, soul go up, and body killer eat meat

[gaunt dawn]

oh that could be really coo, Imagine the survivors soul being ripped from their body and they try to claw back into their body but the light beam pulls them in

[tropic willow]

I think its fine as is tbh. Since i think they still need to make up some distance even if its a lot less

[gaunt dawn]

I think other options to blind survivors would be preffered to that

[tropic willow]

Because then there would be no way to extend chase at all really

[tropic willow]

Agreed

[crimson mortar]

Did they mention when they’re revealing the vote winners

[fickle scarab]

It only blinds them for 1.5 seconds. It doesnt stun them or anything, and its very brief.

[gaunt dawn]

I really need to know as well, for some reason I have sources saying march 2nd but that seems far too soon

[gaunt dawn]

my sources tell me that voting ends on march 2nd noon eastern time. and a couple days after that we will hear the results

[echo folio]

Or bring back the ray of retribution for the mori

[vague blaze]

chat i like the fleshy option for the killer

i see nobody saying good stuff about it

[fickle scarab]

wdym

Almost everyone here was gushing about it for several days

[vague blaze]

havent checked here but on reddit nobody is talking about it

[fickle scarab]

If it doesn't win it would be incredibly funny though

[vague blaze]

tbh reddit is just saying "both options suck"

[fickle scarab]

All the hype over spider legs and then the killer doesnt have them in the end

[fickle scarab]

How?

[vague blaze]

"too human/gendered" is a common complaint there

[fickle scarab]

They literally voted on the female figure silhoette

tf did they expect

[vague blaze]

like this

[vague crater]

there was a concept i saw on the reddit a bit ago
where the survivor floated up and then the killer poked their forehead and light poured from the survivors eyes and mouth before they turned to ash

[vague blaze]

this one?

[vague crater]

tbf it only won by a majority
the people complaining could of voted for one of the other two

[vague crater]

ya that one

[vague crater]

the black armor shell one is

[fickle scarab]

person complaining about the flesh is wacky

[vague crater]

it has entity claws growing from it and the descriptions mention how the fog changed it to be more like where it currently is or something

[fickle scarab]

Oh I never noticed those claws

[vague crater]

they are small so i dont blame you lmao

and its the only thing we have that has a killer actually have entity claws

and its demogorgon of all things
not blight, ghost face, trapper, unknown or anyone else more fitting

[fickle scarab]

I will be very disapointed in the spider/puppet themed one doesnt win

Its such a better overall design

[vague crater]

which one

[fickle scarab]

the spider/puppet themed one

[vague crater]

[fickle scarab]

seriously?

[vague crater]

what are we talking about

cause if its the grimoire neither of those fit that description 💔

[fickle scarab]

This one

Its got spider legs, covered in string

looks more like a doll

[vague crater]

ehh

I see it more of a statue coming to life

like having entity flesh sprout from it to form the angel
cause the pink fleshy parts are like the entity flesh throughout some of the maps

but either way I like the radiant one slightly more
but idm which wins cause they are both peak designs

[calm rain]

I’ve been meaning to ask… are you two sisters or twins

[vague crater]

no-?

[calm rain]

Uh-huh

[fickle scarab]

what?

[vague crater]

I prefer this one cause the faces on its legs look scared
rather than angry

[fickle scarab]

Im a guy

[vague crater]

the other ones called "the personification of fear" but then has angry faces on its legs rather than scared ones

also the radiant one seems to be floating between the four legs rather than having connected legs
but that might not be true

[calm rain]

Damn- . . . Two hags in the same channel but different genders that’s crazy

[fickle scarab]

They look like they are screaming in pain to me

[vague crater]

the back artwork makes it seem like they are connected
but the front artwork makes it look like its floating which would fit more with the statues in the survivor moodboards

I also dont like the feathers on that ones legs tbh

its a bit much

also I dislike people "redesigning" the final concepts
but then not following the previous votes

like there was one where it had pinkish skin and fully dark clothes and like a robe

but like
that doesnt fit "Your flesh is blue, with gold and white stone adornments."

[fickle scarab]

People voting on what a deisgn "could have been" is dumb

[gaunt dawn]

This edit that toast made for me makes the faces more like what I envisioned

[vague crater]

i kinda wish there was still a change your fate for this one
just to see what the other colours could have been
but it makes sense for why they cant do that for every vote since they would need to make an entire other concept art

[gaunt dawn]

I actually just made a rant about this very concept recently

[vague crater]

thats neat

I like the idea of the faces and eyes being people its absorbed or something
similar to the dredge

[gaunt dawn]

this is the one

[vague crater]

like the realm that the survivors get sent to with its power is literally inside of it

and thats what all the screaming faces and eyes are
even in its weapon

yeahhhh

[gaunt dawn]

let me know what you think of my statement

[vague crater]

thats true
I feel like the part where it started falling apart was the further we got in
which makes sense

[gaunt dawn]

it was bound to happen

[vague crater]

like the very loose concepts not many people were too upset about chimeric or parasitic losing once they saw divine as an option

[gaunt dawn]

when given 4 choices, only 38% of voters got the material they wanted

[vague crater]

and then the like exalted truths and all that
loose concepts so people dont mind

[vague blaze]

i like this idea from u/imaginary-act98 with how the face is hidden behind the glow

[vague crater]

but then when its getting closer to the final concept with the silhouettes and survivor faces people get upset
since thats the actual thing we are getting in the game

the materials werent as bad since they were again loose concepts for the most part

[gaunt dawn]

The idea of something is often better than whatever it actually is

[vague crater]

but then the actual final concept has people upset again

[gaunt dawn]

because in your head it can be anything. It has limitless potential, even beyond their own imagination

[vague blaze]

idk why but in my head the blue was less prominent

[vague crater]

but then again not every killer will be liked by everyone so going for the majority 100% makes sense

like 90% of the people voting probably wont end up maining the characters
play them sure but maining them probably not

[vague blaze]

i thought the blue would be an accent color with it being mostly covered by white and gold stuff

[vague crater]

I mean it did say "Your flesh is blue, with gold and white stone adornments."

[gaunt dawn]

I sincerely hope this killer gets skins to rectify these small issues people have with the killers design.

I see a lot of these kinds of nitpicks as overall unimportant because Skins can change textures easily, the legs are what Im really stuck on

[vague crater]

yeahh

and like
community contest cosmetics
since its bhvr original they can have them in that

[gaunt dawn]

Whatever we pick for the legs is going to be the one thing we can never change in the future

[vague crater]

so there will 100% be cosmetics that cook for the killer either way

[gaunt dawn]

People also seem to highly overestimate what a skin can do

[vague crater]

if bhvr doesnt then the communtiy will

[vague crater]

I mean it just needs to keep the general shape

[gaunt dawn]

You are not going to change a killers walk cycle or their attack animation

[vague crater]

first person attack animations you can
otherwise no

[gaunt dawn]

right but it looks like the fleshy one emphasizes a lot of importance on its claw-legs

[vague crater]

yeah

[vague blaze]

imo the fleshy one has the legs too close to the ground but i like it more than the other option

[gaunt dawn]

The 2 genders she/her and Autism.

[gaunt dawn]

but why though?

the legs are going to be the one thing skins cant change

[balmy meadow]

when will we find out results?

[calm rain]

Lmao

[gaunt dawn]

tomorrow supposedly according to my sources

[vague blaze]

idk the first one just gives me the vibes of this image and i cant get it out of my head

[balmy meadow]

huh

[vague blaze]

just kinda looks like its about to give me a white monster to clutch a csgo round

[strange horizon]

So chopped

[onyx geyser]

mixxd monster so much better

[gaunt dawn]

Every killer loses its scariness after just a couple of hours.

Her face could always change with a skin, her textures and colors can always change with a skin, her legs determin her skeleton and that will determine the limitations of what you can do with skins

unless the upcoming trickster skin is implying that we have now moved beyond that

[vague blaze]

im gonna keep it real
i dont buy skins

[gaunt dawn]

I want her to have a gross skin if the light one wins

[gaunt dawn]

not even with auric cells?

I mean iri shards, thats what I mean

[fickle scarab]

lol

[vague blaze]

the only skins i plan on truly buying are for my survivor main and thats only after i unlock all the survs

[gaunt dawn]

are you even going to play the new killer?

[vague blaze]

yeah

i have the rest of the iri killers unlocked

so i wouldnt need to spend them

i worded it misleadingly

[gaunt dawn]

Im a killer main so my focus is definitely on skins for my killers. I already have every character prestiged and every character unlocked so I view iri shards as free skin unlocks

[vague blaze]

now that you mention it im prob gonna get skins for whover i pick as my killer main but i dont have enough bloodpoints to have a main yet

cause i gotta spend it on prestiging for perks

[gaunt dawn]

fair, That being said I hope if light wins that we get a corrupted skin for it and if the fleshy one wins I hope we get a version that is neat with all its feathers back.

That way everyone gets a little something for the vibe they want to go for

[modest gull]

Fr

[gaunt dawn]

The best case scenario I can see is a skin consolation for the side that didnt win. Have a skin with more of the vibe of the other even if its not exactly the same.

In the event that the flesh one wins, Id like to see a skin that makes the wings all feathery and the rest of her body more on pare with her face, mostly removing the fleshy parts

Thats my personal take anyway.

I dont know exactly what people would want if light wins but I wouldnt mind it getting those fleshy wings if thats what people are focused on

[echo folio]

That sounds great!

[obsidian shell]

Wait she does 😭

[gaunt dawn]

is this a reference I dont get?

[obsidian shell]

Yea 😭

[gaunt dawn]

someone dm me the reference

[obsidian shell]

Basically this

[gaunt dawn]

Am I old, I dont get the joke

[obsidian shell]

How old are you 😭

[gaunt dawn]

Ancient, probably a thousand years old, met king tut, funny guy

[obsidian shell]

King tut? 😭

[gaunt dawn]

yeah, great guy, too bad what happened to him though. After that made friends with vlad. He always took things super seriously though, short temper. No patience, always said "get to the point". You know, which a lot of people did either phonetically or literally

Anyway, I dont get the reference

[winged comet]

Are we discussing the grimoire in here?

[fickle scarab]

thats what this channel is for yeah

[echo folio]

However time to time we get off topic it's nothing but grimoire discussion and voting hype for several choices

[gaunt dawn]

yeah lol. what are your thoughts?

[winged comet]

I controversially like the faces on the legs, feels cathedral-like.
Survivor is good no matter what, I like the name Grace though. I'm a fan of obvious/cringey names, like Sable Ward.

[honest lichen]

your pretty old man if youve met tut

[gaunt dawn]

I dont think its as controversial as you think

[winged comet]

Oh? My bad then, to rephrase: I am an NPC sheep who enjoys the obviously enjoyable faces on the legs

[gaunt dawn]

dont be too harsh on yourself, lol. Its fine

[winged comet]

As long as it's funny, I will continue being harsh on myself 🙂

[winged comet]

So, what are your thoughts?

[gaunt dawn]

oh Ive been talking nonstop about my thoughts since voting opened.

But my summery is this. The fleshy one is too amalgamous I think its time we had an ethereal original killer that didnt rely on gore, contortion and decay to have an intimidating presence. Not to mention I think ethereal in nature is more divine.

So Im going with the radiant aspect for killer.
A staff because I think it fits best with its power and we dont have a killer with a staff.
With grandma Im going with the white coat because it has an amazing design that blurs the lines between cleric and doctor, with glasses that fits.

The names Im not too picky about but I picked judgement, grace and Chorus of sins

not to mention I see a lot mroe skin potential with the radiant one, the crab legs of the meaty one are going to be hard to work around

[winged comet]

Ah, I really liked the... ashes name, can't remember what it was called

Funnily enough, I liked the war hammer

[gaunt dawn]

ashes is great too!!

The only universally disliked options IVe seen so far are hammer and "last word"

[winged comet]

Oh? Last word I would think is pretty fitting for a being of "exalted truth."

[gaunt dawn]

Well the names are not important to me, they all sound great

[fickle scarab]

We dont have an ethereal killer in the game.

[winged comet]

Voted for the fleshy one, mainly due to the wings and feathers

[gaunt dawn]

the wings can always be changed with skins, its the legs we will be stuck with

it would be a shame that every single skin our angel gets might end up needing to impliment the crab legs in some way

[winged comet]

Oh, for real? Another big reason I voted fleshy was for the headdress-like feathers on the faces.

[gaunt dawn]

I mean, look at how skins work for other killers, like dracula for example

both of draculas major skins use the same skeleton but completely change the look and feel of his character

same with vecna

[winged comet]

I feel that licensed killers are a bad example here.

[fickle scarab]

Droned on a out it endlesslt already but the spider one is far more visually interesting and has a lot of details

[winged comet]

I do see the point, Houndmaster is very much the same.

[gaunt dawn]

If it was any other theme I would have picked spider legs but thats not what we got, we got an angel that shoots light beams

[fickle scarab]

You shouldnt be voting based on drastic cosmetic potential imo

[gaunt dawn]

Im not, Im saying that these are minor nitpicks that could easily be fixed with skins. Id play this killer as is

[winged comet]

I was all-in on big head

Also, I think spider legs as an option really got BHVR to stretch their creative muscles here

[gaunt dawn]

Ill accept whatever wins but I hope if fleshy one wins we at least get a skin that I would enjoy looking at

[winged comet]

I mean, you'll probably be looking the most at where their head is pointing, considering the giant laser beam you would need to dodge

I think it would be really cool if the killer's legs were disjointed from where their body was looking.

[gaunt dawn]

am I allowed to post an AI edit of the official concept art?

[winged comet]

Uh, I don't know.

[gaunt dawn]

Ill dm it to you, if someone here wants to allow it let me know, all it is, is official art edited using AI for minor edits to prove a concept

that thing I sent you, something liek that would be a good consolation for me if flesh wins

[winged comet]

Ah, I remember with the previous appearance vote people wanted skins to be made out of the other options, maybe it'll be something like that

[gaunt dawn]

I too have been advocating for this on hour 1 of the reveal

If that becomes a skin Ill be happy enough

If anyone officially in charge around here lets me know if I can post an ai edit of the fleshy concept art with my preferred changes I would appreciate it. But I know its sunday and that is unlikely.

I do feel quite strongly about this alternative skin if flesh wins though

Basically this, a skin for the fleshy one that involves replacing the flesh and blue skeletal bits with stone and making her look like an angel statue

[winged comet]

I mean, as-is it looks like an angel statue that suddenly had flesh rupture out from it (look at how the legs are wearing that material)

[gaunt dawn]

Id rather it look more together and clean

[steady current]

guys we need more male crop top skins like the Felix one >///<

[calm rain]

Whelp- I know your type.

[winged comet]

How did you send this image?

[calm rain]

JUDGMENT!

-# prestige

[mellow wadi]

My votes for the Grimoire

Killer design: Angelic
Killer weapon: Ball and chain flail
Killer name: The Judgement
Survivor design: Dark purple attire
Survivor accessories: Bandana with 2 earrings
Survivor name: Grace
Chapter name: Chorus of Sin

[fickle scarab]

A flail is a ball and chain thats not a type of flail

[echo folio]

Seems like the Judgment is the most reoccurring name for the killer on most servers I'm in

[winged comet]

Fellow Grace enjoyer 🤝. Admittedly I went for different votes on nearly everything else.

[manic mortar]

The server I'm in names them The Exalted

[winged comet]

I mean, they caused an apocalypse upon the world for being too sinful.

[echo folio]

So wouldn't the Apocalypse be more fitting like how I voted

[manic mortar]

I voted for the Exalted since the killer is known as "The Wielder of Exalted Truths"

[winged comet]

I mean, they weren't "the Apocalypse," they caused it though. Honestly, I'm really playing devil's advocate here, both are good names.

[tropic willow]

Ive seen more Exalteds than Judgements