grimoire-discussion

[gaunt dawn]

A lot of people want this killer to have many voices both male and female, overlapping eachother in an ethereal nature

[sour skiff]

That's way too much ngl

[gaunt dawn]

why?

have you ever watched the adventures of mark twain?

[sour skiff]

It would be hard to hear the voice and what it's saying which in turn be in the killer's favour and I might be saying this as a picky survivor but I'm also a killer and I like the game to be alittle balanced

[sour skiff]

Nope

[gaunt dawn]

The way the devil is depicted in that cartoon is phenomenal design, look it up on youtube and youll see what I mean

[digital lily]

Wizardventures hello again

[sour skiff]

I'll see if I get free time to watch it. My timetable is messed up

[gaunt dawn]

only have to watch like 2 minutes of it to get the sound of the voice

[sour skiff]

Ok

What about the survivor, do you like the clothing?

[digital lily]

I don’t

[sour skiff]

Why?

[digital lily]

Bcs in my opinion it’s lazy design

It gives too much cultist wich we already have

[gaunt dawn]

I like a lot of the clothing options for survivor and I hope they all come as skins

[sour skiff]

Me personally, I would probably make the survivor a cultist of the angel

[sour skiff]

Yeah but taure is a ginger

[digital lily]

But we already have that and they said she is a scientist…

WHAT ABOUT THAT

[sour skiff]

I mean it was in ruined world so rags makes sense

And I would say the person is a scientist of the cult

[digital lily]

Okay but in my opinion the outfits say nothing, yeah they are destroyed but what else? I like the Top of the first one tho

Hot mamas can show some skin

[sour skiff]

Me personally, I would just make the clothing always jeans and a jumper

[digital lily]

hahahah

I just wish a little more story telling in both surv and killer

[sour skiff]

BUT lara corft is the exception. I love tomb raider

[digital lily]

It feels so without motive

[digital lily]

valid

[solar mantle]

is it a killer or a survivor?

[gaunt dawn]

SEE NOW THATS WHAT IM TALKING ABOUT!

if that came out tomorrow, instant buy

[sour skiff]

I think theyll be bspecial interactions in the Mori. Like "HOW DARE YOU DEFIE ME CULTIST"

[sour skiff]

Way too much with option one. Not really the whole fallen angel type

[digital lily]

Could be cool, but the killer is not screaming „I started an apocalypse“ you can’t tell any reasons in the design

[gaunt dawn]

they made the edit according to what I wanted

and yes, it very much looks like a fallen angel to me

[sour skiff]

I think it say at the start of the round "I'LL MAKE THE WORLD FALL DOWN TO MY KNEES AND BEG FOR MERCY" or something

[digital lily]

I hate the face and wings on that one

[sour skiff]

Option 1 or 2

[digital lily]

But why does the angel need to TELL us this. It should be shown in the design… that’s what good design is.

[digital lily]

Option 1 what they send in here

[sour skiff]

That's why option 2 is the better option as Its been punished by god by ruining the world.

Punished by god for playing god

[gaunt dawn]

I feel like this divine killer would be more like "You deserve nothing, you must be punished for your heresy"

[digital lily]

I like it more bcs of the bone structure and stuff bcs it shows some commitment to the topic. Option 1 is way too polished to be an corrupted angel

[gaunt dawn]

I mean, literally morningstar lore

number 2 is too visceral to be a corrupted angel to me but then again, I think many people have different aspects they like to focus on.

I like the etherealness

[digital lily]

But why would an corrupted angel have perfectly fine wings plus a super model face?

[gaunt dawn]

because its an angel

[solar mantle]

It is a killer, right?

[digital lily]

yes

[gaunt dawn]

if it was more eldritch in nature Id go with the second one

[digital lily]

But a statue and a corrupted angel don’t look like kim kardashien. Sorry but I can’t see any horror aspects in that one. Although I think the belly part could be very cool if they work it out a little better.

[tropic willow]

Not a fan of it

[stiff obsidian]

Is the chapter coming before the 10th Anniversary or after

[gaunt dawn]

I think thats where our opinions differ. Ive seen years and years and years of similar designs, all trying to be more visceral than the next, over and over. trying to be as gory as possible.

In truth gorey horror has lost its edge to me. Existential horror is not done enough

[winged comet]

The devs should have dropped the killer that lost the vote, and then had a 2nd round of voting between the joint winners./srs

Then big head would've won/j

[gaunt dawn]

Like for example, some peoples idea of horror is to make a character bleed and lose flesh, so much fleshyness

[digital lily]

Oh I don’t mean it to be only gore. But I think it would be cool if the head is like almost fallen off bcs it’s broken or the face is glitching with different emotions.

[gaunt dawn]

the ethereal nature of the first one is unlike anything we have in the game so far, it would be a wonderful change of pace

[winged comet]

Admittedly I like the faces on the legs, brings something cathedral-like to the character

[digital lily]

I think they at least need to make more than 2 concepts (that are almost the same)

[gaunt dawn]

and this is the concept that would fit it best

[stiff obsidian]

Second concept just feels like they had no idea after the first, so they desecrated the wings

[digital lily]

I think the wings are the best thing on it

[gaunt dawn]

the red eyes blend too much into the flesh

[digital lily]

But I am still figuring out why there is a loose white string? with no purpose…

[stiff obsidian]

Yeah, but having them overgrown with flesh goo feels more like a wannabe angel than an actual one

[gaunt dawn]

I mean, we did vote on white and blue

[digital lily]

I think that’s the case with option 1

[gaunt dawn]

I dont see it, can you elaborate?

[stiff obsidian]

Both of the concept also look AI generated, aswell as the weapons feel just weird.

[digital lily]

That’s why I said they need to work it out more on one. The red is so dark and everything is so close together you can’t really tell or don’t recognize the eyes at first. All thought I like that idea more than the second one.

[gaunt dawn]

If it had more blues and whites it would contrast better than the reds and blacks

[digital lily]

I don’t think they are AI but it kinda feels like they ask ChatGPT for the details.

[stiff obsidian]

There has to be some AI involved most likely to polish them out.

[digital lily]

Yeah, but I also don’t like the overload of the „mass“ in option 2. If it would be more minimalist great.

Im just not a fan of all of it tbh kinda disappointed by bhvr again…

[stiff obsidian]

Im happy with the new surv, bout time we got old Laurie

[gaunt dawn]

Im sorry its not what you wanted, we knew that someone would always be dissapointed though.

Its amazing we got this far with the details I wanted but I wouldnt be surprised if this is where my luck runs out

if this was to release tomorrow Id buy it instantly

[digital lily]

yesssss

[stiff obsidian]

But the glasses look bad

Either no accessory or the greenish band sella it for me.

[digital lily]

Thanks, it just gives the vibe of the angel rift which was a complete failure

[gaunt dawn]

I liked that rift, its failure was in its lack of variety

[digital lily]

Yes. I liked the Trickster and Spirit skin, but everything else? No. Just no. And the amount of recolours we get is absurd

[stiff obsidian]

Also the if the 1st survivor outfit doesn't win I'm not gonna buy her, prob just for the perks. The 2nd one looks like that one mid Elodie skin that was free around All Things Wicked (goated chapter)

[gaunt dawn]

exactly, lack of variety

Also I actually dont think the trickster skin was done well, great concept but the hands look painted on

[digital lily]

And it’s so sad bcs I love the topic but they are just delivering not enough

[digital lily]

sure but it was at least a new skin

[gaunt dawn]

I suppose, its still my trickster skin of choice

[stiff obsidian]

The trickstsr skin was very specific but for him I'd love it if they pivot off of making such a big deal out of him having no shirt. Like a trickster that's idk how to say it a "uniform" design

[digital lily]

Hopefully Trickster is more fun after the update

[gaunt dawn]

I thought he was fine as is, we will see

[digital lily]

Yesss and it was a very weird combo with the pants

[stiff obsidian]

Like for me that skin was just off putting, not exactly eye candy, it was more just unsettling. Which i think it was supossed to be

Gross flesh, fused stuff. Good thing the floating head didn't win.

• The concpet of fused bodies was done in blighted legion so it didn't seem that unique

[gaunt dawn]

Some people get freaked out by watching surgery, others get more freaked out by the silent gaze of a poweful person who seems "perfect"

Im more in the second demographic

[stiff obsidian]

I like eye candy skins. If i were to make a cool trickster skin i'd make it similar to the new survivors jacket skins

[gaunt dawn]

thats why its important to me that the character doesnt look visceral to me, it just makes them seem weaker IMO

[stiff obsidian]

Wait lemme look up visceral english is my 2nd

[gaunt dawn]

fleshy, gory

[stone kestrel]

it really depends on the lore

[gaunt dawn]

viscera, the medical term, means deep internal organs

[stiff obsidian]

Thanks

[stone kestrel]

cuz it could make more sense depending on the background

[stiff obsidian]

Yeah, that's been done with Dredge.

[gaunt dawn]

exactly!

thats my main argument for the first concept over the second one

[stiff obsidian]

Next original killer should be something revolving around computers, or being digital.

Or if not original there could be some fun characters

[gaunt dawn]

the second one looks more organic than ethereal

[stiff obsidian]

Second one would be kinda good if the legs weren't so gross. Like it doesn't even look cool its just gross.

[stone kestrel]

next not original should be jason

[stiff obsidian]

Eh, idk. I made a concept for him once. I think that there is definetly more interesting licenses

[rocky meadow]

Dbd are meant to be a scary game so why don’t just take the scariest character?

[gaunt dawn]

the legs and the wings turn me off. If the wings were more feathery Id perhaps have given it a pass but there is that raw muscle and bone on display of its body, it looks like 70% eldritch and 30%% angelic

[stone kestrel]

if not they could just make him like a trapper skin or sum. I think that might upset fans tho

[gaunt dawn]

depends on what you consider scary, some people arent phased at all by gore or viscera

I would sooner work at a morgue than some priesthoods

[stiff obsidian]

For example. Death Angels from A Quiet Place - much more cooler power

frickin SCPSS!!! (Won't happen but oh man i can keep dreaming)

Jason for 10th Anniversary would be SO dissapointing for me.

Pennywise - but would have to be perfectly done, which form etc.

Another FNAF - Vanny as killer, or as a skin to onryo(skin won't happen lol)

[stiff obsidian]

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[stone kestrel]

wait scps have so much potential as well

[stiff obsidian]

Mostly 049, 106

[rocky meadow]

Well springtrap already has a vanny skin

[stiff obsidian]

Since when, Glitchtrap is a differwnt character

[gaunt dawn]

My biggest nightmares are never about anything bloody, gorey, stuff like that. My biggest fear, the stuff that gives me real nightmares are people. People, desperate, making desicions. Social pressures that will doom others, needing to stay in line and be like the rest.

One moment of not being perfect and JUDGEMENT

thats the feel I want from this killer

[stone kestrel]

im guessing your most scared by killers that make you have to think fast then

[gaunt dawn]

in game, Im not scared of dredge but stealth killers can sometimes get me. pyramidhead is a big one that gives me the creeps but Im not exactly scared

I do get scared when I land in a trapper trap, as rare as it is. because I know hes coming for me

[stone kestrel]

imo pyramid head has some of the most visually appealing skins

[gaunt dawn]

pyramid head in the official games has that aura of judgement that I fear

[stone kestrel]

is that not what he was made for?

[gaunt dawn]

yes! exactly

Krasue to me is the least scary killer in the game, shes just a bunch of organs

[stiff obsidian]

Dredge wannabe

[stone kestrel]

i do like the fact that they are made a killer from folklore and myths though. I find it really cool the concept of killers like that

[gaunt dawn]

unknown can be scary though

[stiff obsidian]

Best original chapter by far

[gaunt dawn]

yeah I apprciate that aspect and I hope they do more

but going back, killers like krasue and dredge and more of examples of the kind of thing I feel like we have enough of, an ethereal "perfect" form would be a nice change of pace

[stone kestrel]

like a more popular one a like a wendigo

[stone kestrel]

the lore of how they got to the realm would be really interesting

[stiff obsidian]

Scariest killer for me, if not dependant on the map like Hawkins Myers/Ghostie has to be Pyramid Head just because of his blade scraping the floor it has the feel if impending doom

[gaunt dawn]

yes!

the slow agonizing anticipation

[stiff obsidian]

And its loud af, which hinders him on enclosed maps. You can still hear it from different floors

[stone kestrel]

doctor kinda scares me tbh. just the deception and seeing him everywhere is scary to me

[stiff obsidian]

Funny, but annoying to vs

[gaunt dawn]

Im hoping that this angel killer gives off the same kind of vibe though.

Pyramic head similarly does not typically stealth but he reveals all

[stiff obsidian]

I hate being interrupted on the ruin totem for the 20th time bcs he also has Thrill

[gaunt dawn]

Im hoping that this killer has an intimidating presence

[stiff obsidian]

60 meter lullaby would be fire

[stone kestrel]

i used to main doctor cuz i really enjoyed messing with people. Also cuz i needed alot of bp and i heard doctor was good for it

[gaunt dawn]

I just think bright as heck

probably could actually stealth.... if its an indoor map

[stone kestrel]

chase music better be heavenly

[gaunt dawn]

I want the chase music to be organ, bells and latin choir

[stiff obsidian]

I'd like for it to look menacing but have completely silent footsteps, since it treads like an angel

[stiff obsidian]

Prob that, yeah. If not they'll go for heavy metal

[gaunt dawn]

another reason I want first one to win, I dont think the angel actually walks on those legs in the first one

[stiff obsidian]

Wait what if

[stone kestrel]

and it could have a red stain illusion like doctor, as if to say its always watching you

[stiff obsidian]

He grabs them with the legs and floats, that'd be so unique. Singularity all over again

Since HUX got the first unique carry and yknow, after that it was every chapter almost

I'd like for it to have an ability where it flies up into the sky, and then crashes down with conjured angelic spearedz kinda like doomfist ult from OW

But too similar to vecna i fear

[gaunt dawn]

O fortuna, great inspiration behind what Id like to see as chase music

but like, more in a dark souls style

[stone kestrel]

and the remixed main menu music could with like violins or smth

[gaunt dawn]

something like lady maria from bloodborne

[stiff obsidian]

Have you guys heard church organs that run out of air

[gaunt dawn]

oh yes!

[stone kestrel]

i havent

[stiff obsidian]

Creepy sound, that would fit the terror radius as he got away

[stiff obsidian]

Search it up, spooky

[stone kestrel]

ill look at it now

[stiff obsidian]

And the organs getting alive again as it got closer

[stone kestrel]

or as the trial goes along, like how huntress gets more annoyed

[stiff obsidian]

YES HUMMING ANGEL

[gaunt dawn]

if the chase music isnt organs and latin choir we riot

[muted estuary]

Can wr have a redo on the entire grimoire?

[gaunt dawn]

we can always hope for another grimoire

[stiff obsidian]

Nah, more new survivor items

[muted estuary]

I think this one will make me step away from the game again lol

[gaunt dawn]

cant please everyone

[muted estuary]

This has to be the worst survivor and killer ige seen

[gaunt dawn]

k

[stone kestrel]

killer isnt bad

[stiff obsidian]

You're saying Haddie Kaur is better than Old Laurie?

[tropic willow]

Hope we do get another

[stone kestrel]

mostly voted the old lady cuz her tagline suggested she would get some new aura reading perks

[gaunt dawn]

Eleven has the best aura reading perk in the game, Im not sure how anyone is going to top it

[stiff obsidian]

I'd love for her to have a Teamwork perk. That acts similar to Lucky Break 8 seconds/8 charges. Recharges every time someone gets hooked. Up to 32 charges

Survivors within 8 meters also see the auras you see spending 1 charge for 1 second of aura sharing

Actual good teamwork perk?

My numbers are prob overtuned

[stone kestrel]

trevors version of lethal pursuer just makes all of the aura reading perks better

[stone kestrel]

actually wouldnt mind it

[gaunt dawn]

Id like to see more invocations, something that helps invocations get better

[stiff obsidian]

Eleven perk+ Object is so good

[stiff obsidian]

First I have to see a boon system rework

[gaunt dawn]

like, a perk that makes invocations faster or something

[stone kestrel]

theyre just kinda useless rn

[gaunt dawn]

boons dont have the same kind of protection as hexes do, but hexes can be renewed

[stiff obsidian]

My idea:
New map object where survivor go to get blessed themselves, instead of blessing totems. Then for the next 60 seconds the boon is active around them within 16 meters. Getting hit removes half of the remaining duration.

[stone kestrel]

kinda like plagues sinks but less of them?

[gaunt dawn]

its possible dbd needs to just rethink totems entirely

[stiff obsidian]

2 per map top.

[stone kestrel]

thats pretty fair

[stiff obsidian]

Boons are so bad since the killer doesn't have to sacrifice much to get rid of them, using a boon forces to run to it also makes it harder to use, and in turn leads the killer to the boon

[stone kestrel]

hexes i think are pretty balanced, since as soon as i see a killer using a hex i just look for the totem and disable it

[stiff obsidian]

I spawned to a devour last game, killer quit on the spot lol

A system where totems can't be cleansed for the first 16 seconds of a game

[stone kestrel]

devour is so situational cuz it takes time for it to take effect, and in that time its really easy to disable it

[midnight tusk]

Can we get her back

[midnight tusk]

like this is mother

[stiff obsidian]

No

[stone kestrel]

i never realised she had heterochromia

[gaunt dawn]

I never leave home without either my undying or dominance

[stiff obsidian]

The face looks exactly like sable

[gaunt dawn]

all of the survivors did IIRC

[midnight tusk]

such an interesting design, too bad we never got to see it in game

[stiff obsidian]

Invocations are so interesting but, they suck. Either make them not take a health state, but reveal the aura to the killer when 75% of is done.
Or make them stronger for taking a health state

[midnight tusk]

it literally doesn’t, ur just saying that cus she’s pretty

[stone kestrel]

i guess i never looked hard enough

[midnight tusk]

i’ll never forgive behavior for making invocation perks so useless

[gaunt dawn]

there is always time to compliment them to make them better

hexes werent in a great spot for years

[stiff obsidian]

Old Laurie tops, I'm not saying she's a bad design but with a chapter where they add a literal fallen angel. Having another voodo emo young girl doesn't fit it. Someone that looks expirienced and knows what they are facing fits the best

[gaunt dawn]

I still use invocations for fun sometimes

We dont have to insult sylis's choice

[stone kestrel]

i honestly dont get the hag hate. i used her and i thought she was one of the more fun killers ive played

[midnight tusk]

dark hair ≠ emo

[gaunt dawn]

She was my main for a while

[stiff obsidian]

Didn't say that, it's just sable 2.0

[midnight tusk]

what makes her emo

[gaunt dawn]

please stop it, this is not productive. Ive seen where this conversation heads and I dont like it

[stiff obsidian]

I think the addon that doesn't tell survivors they trigerred a trap is the most fun way to llay her, gen grab after gen grab

[stone kestrel]

i really enjoy the idea of being able to switch chases so quickly and shut down loops

[midnight tusk]

i’m not trying to argue i’m just curious on how she looks like sable in their opinion

[gaunt dawn]

I actually love switching up her abilities, grandmas heart is underrated

[gaunt dawn]

shes more like vee than anything else but its basically about her being another conventionally attractive character

[midnight tusk]

ik it’s cus she’s attractive but they are calling her “emo” meanwhile we dont even see her outfit it’s only her head idk how u can determine if someone’s style is emo off of that

[faint cypress]

She looks like sable’s granny

[stiff obsidian]

The chapter demands a survivor that dips themselves in the divine so they went with

1: Expirienced and knows what they're dealing with: Old Lady
2: First timer, lost and scared: The girl
3: Has seen stuff: Black dude
4: Doesn't like the things he has to deal with at all: Red Hair dude

[gaunt dawn]

Women like having more character options and I respect that, some guys want their harem which is... unhinged.

Others are so anti-that that they go a bit sexist while others just want more male options.

[midnight tusk]

i understand your point ty for clarification

[gaunt dawn]

I want grandma because I think we need more variety. Like short and fat guys, we dont have enough of those either

[stone kestrel]

theyre just skins anyway its not that big of a deal like if you dont like the survivor dont use them

[midnight tusk]

dustin?

[gaunt dawn]

in game dustin is quite big

[midnight tusk]

mind u we only have 1 tall female

[gaunt dawn]

Im talking smaller than most female bodies

[stiff obsidian]

The old lady also fills a missing space with the female roster, someone that look like they've done it before. So the trials are just another day. The eye scar makes it all better

[gaunt dawn]

Im 5' tall, Id like some representation

[midnight tusk]

anywho i sit pretty at 6’3

[stone kestrel]

i do wonder if theyre gonna make it so she got taken whe she was old or shes been living in the realm for ages

[gaunt dawn]

but there never is small skinny guys in these games, its usually tall buff men

[midnight tusk]

honestly eleven should’ve been shorter too

[gaunt dawn]

slay queen.

[midnight tusk]

nobody wants a scrawny man

[gaunt dawn]

hey

[midnight tusk]

no shade-

[gaunt dawn]

some people out there want it, its never stopped me in the dating world

[stiff obsidian]

The one that lost as a skin for sable or a future surv in a different chapter i don't mind. But this chapter just doesn't make her fit. It'd be like forcing Feng Min into All Things Wicked

[midnight tusk]

but overall we just need new models and different bodies in game, we have like one thick woman mind u

[gaunt dawn]

in sme games guys love playing as goblins

[midnight tusk]

well that seems nice for u

[stiff obsidian]

New surv??

[midnight tusk]

do u just not like young girls cus why are we mentioning feng min

[midnight tusk]

he isn’t super skinny tho

[stiff obsidian]

First thing that came to mind that didn't fit All Things Wicked

[midnight tusk]

well

[gaunt dawn]

how come every time I try to google this show it always shows me goblin slayer SMH

[midnight tusk]

i feel like she would fit into this chapter honestly it just depends on the lore they give her

[stone kestrel]

shes not a bad choice its just that i feel the old lady fits better

[midnight tusk]

https://tenor.com/view/blackpink-jump-gif-10741922000250722300

[stiff obsidian]

She looks scared, the old lady looks like she's done it so many times before it bores her

God forbid another dwight but female

One scaredy cat's enough

[midnight tusk]

ntm on dwight he’s dbd’s favorite twink

[gaunt dawn]

The Legend of Vox Machina !

that was it, goblin from that

[ember thorn]

i feel so bad for the ginger guy he was my fav

[midnight tusk]

he’s weak

[ember thorn]

nahh he looks tuff i would play him alot

[stone kestrel]

dont be dissing gingers

[stiff obsidian]

All of them have some sort heterochromia or different designed eyes, which makes me think its an important part of the Killer lore

[stone kestrel]

blinding lights maybe?

[gaunt dawn]

@midnight tusk have you got any opinions on tomorrows pick?

[ember thorn]

also i dont think we have other gingers in game?

my bad mikeala

[gaunt dawn]

male gingers you mean

[stiff obsidian]

I think that its more likely used against the killer, since the old lady has a scar where all if the others have a diff eye

Mace has to win

[midnight tusk]

i’m not gonna vote, me and my girls are boycotting dbd until we get her

[gaunt dawn]

good luck

[midnight tusk]

yes i’m being deadass

[ember thorn]

another sable bro 🥀🥀

[midnight tusk]

well hopefully we won’t have to boycott for long

[ember thorn]

we have enough cute girls

[midnight tusk]

Just because she’s young and pretty doesn’t mean she’s “sable”

[stone kestrel]

its not just sable

[midnight tusk]

we only have sable and vee

[stiff obsidian]

She lost the vote, which means even if every one of her voters tries to boycott which is funny...

She won't come back since 55% was for the old ladg

[gaunt dawn]

To be fair, hardly any of the survivors vibe that well with me

[ember thorn]

ada, mikeala, jill, lara

[gaunt dawn]

theres not really a guy survivor that fits my aesthetic yet

I do appreciate the castlevania crossover though

[stiff obsidian]

You look like a Dr. Strange as a surv person

[midnight tusk]

imo ada isn’t

[stone kestrel]

yeah when we gonna get a ginger dude

[midnight tusk]

we aren’t

[ember thorn]

fr and we have so much diversity in females but not in males

[stone kestrel]

fr

[gaunt dawn]

a wizard, vittiro is the closest but for some reason they insist on making him..... guess what, buff and in some skins shirtless with tattoos

[midnight tusk]

males don’t sell as well and have less opportunities for cosmetics

[stiff obsidian]

Some kind of medieval scientist as a survivor, with a sleek robe

[gaunt dawn]

its a shame

[stiff obsidian]

Alchemist of some sorts, a mad man

[ember thorn]

idc if they sell or not i want diversity not copy paste alt girls

[gaunt dawn]

I like taurie

[stone kestrel]

similar to how blight looked before he turned into blight

[gaunt dawn]

shes neat, I like that her hair is buzzed down

[midnight tusk]

what else would he be marvel rivals has every man looking like a bodybuilder

[stiff obsidian]

The design for her is so good but man the head, just ruins it for me

[gaunt dawn]

yeah, they made strange way too buff

[midnight tusk]

shoulder the burden is underrated asf

[stone kestrel]

that was predetermined because they are characters that existed beforehand

[stiff obsidian]

Marvel in dbd would be cool

[gaunt dawn]

Id love it if they made her bald

[ember thorn]

i dont think that it would match the lore

[stone kestrel]

some characters could fit too

[stiff obsidian]

Who would you guys go for with a killer choice, if there was marvel

[stone kestrel]

maybe morbius

[gaunt dawn]

I like felix but once again, tall handsome man

[midnight tusk]

well true cus he’s literally a sorcerer he doesn’t have to fight with his fists he fights with magic

[stiff obsidian]

Would have to be a niche character not one of the main ones

Knull? For example.

[gaunt dawn]

the closest character I have to what I want is adam

[stone kestrel]

or carnage cuz venom is way too big

[midnight tusk]

selene gallio

[ember thorn]

is it good for dbd to buy a niche character that nooone will recognize? i dont think so

[midnight tusk]

isn’t carnage bigger than venom

[stiff obsidian]

They missed the mark for a skinny dude that doesnt have body mass when they didn't add Micheal along with Springtrap. An already dead survivor

[stone kestrel]

smaller red one

[gaunt dawn]

bigger in size? no

[stone kestrel]

hes stronger

[ember thorn]

fr i need mike afton in game

[midnight tusk]

RIGHT ugh honestly every chapter should have a killer and at least one survivor

[gaunt dawn]

the problem with dustin is that, in game hes not short, just in the lobby

[midnight tusk]

HE ISNT IN GAME WTF I NEVER KNEW THIS

[stone kestrel]

hed be pay to win otherwise

[gaunt dawn]

yeah, hes scaled a bit wierdly too

[gaunt dawn]

by that logic women are pay to win

[midnight tusk]

he’s the same height as women models

[stone kestrel]

in the lobby or in game?

[stiff obsidian]

I don't agree with this. If there is room for a licensed character then sure. But don't force it. Micheal is a good option, but he wasn't added probably because he didn't really have a design apart from the pixel cutscene + hoodie and white mask.

Chucky as a standalone was good

[midnight tusk]

lobby

[ember thorn]

well hitboxes are all the same

[gaunt dawn]

in lobby hes shorter than in game because in game there are only 2 player skeletons

[stone kestrel]

thats just weird then

[gaunt dawn]

hiding is easier when you are smaller, better chance of losing killer in chases

[stiff obsidian]

Eddie skin looks towering compared to dustin

[ember thorn]

i dont feel like its a big diffrence in game advantages between male and female body

[midnight tusk]

well chapters that have an obvious choice for a survivor as well should always have a survivor and a killer

[rare spade]

wow another epic face so cool

more like epic vamp XD B A S E D . 😅 😅 😅 😅 😅 😅

[gaunt dawn]

not for most players, but if you are playing someone like... say trevor or alucard youd definitely notice the difference

[midnight tusk]

aren’t they taller than normal male models

[stiff obsidian]

Yeah, but Micheal didn't have a fully fleshed out design, they'd probably just be paying for the character name and lore

[gaunt dawn]

yeah and they cant hide very well

[ember thorn]

yeah trevors clothes are massive but its same for this one sparkly yui skin

[midnight tusk]

pay to lose

[rare spade]

ok so i got ego'd haha its jsut my life i guess haha 😅 😅 😅 😅 😅 😅

[gaunt dawn]

Soma skin for trevor is a lot better advantage wise

[stiff obsidian]

What is this bot

[midnight tusk]

i don’t understand this message

[ember thorn]

but overall i dont think character model have a big inpact on game since looping skill matters the most

[stiff obsidian]

He's just a 8bit purple dude. In the games

[rare spade]

ohh goddddd ur gonna have to explain it to sylus!! 😅 😅 😅 😅 😅 😅

[midnight tusk]

for being stealthy it helps being smaller

[midnight tusk]

oh ok ty honestly i haven’t played that many fnaf games so ty

[gaunt dawn]

a mix of both are important. but neither means anything if people arent doing gens

Ive had more people lose to me trying to loop me than the ones I cant find

Everyone overestimates their ability to loop against killers like lich for example

[stone kestrel]

if you play him well you can get free hits easily

[tropic willow]

Exotic butters

[stiff obsidian]

Eggs benedict

[gaunt dawn]

Its one of the reason I like aura builds. Is that a team that can split and stealth will more likely win against me since looping doesnt usually work out

[midnight tusk]

we need a perk that literally just shows you the killer if ur like 12m or closer to them

[stone kestrel]

also it doesnt really matter with stealth if a killer has an aura reading build

[gaunt dawn]

though aura blockers are becoming more common

[ember thorn]

i feel like the game is surv sided because when survs are doing genes there is nothing you can do, no aura read or gen regress will help you

[stone kestrel]

true

[stiff obsidian]

Map stamp add on

[gaunt dawn]

did you know, elevens perk, makes it so auras dont work on you?

[rare spade]

??????

[stiff obsidian]

Just slug

[midnight tusk]

that’s why eleven is the best survivor and the most powerful survivor and the entity knew to nerf her

[gaunt dawn]

during her extra sensory perk use, she blocks aura reading

[stone kestrel]

that is annoying

[stiff obsidian]

The most useful part of that perk is the totem reveal

[rare spade]

then u get flamed for playing like a loser 😅 😅 😅 😅 i guess man

[ember thorn]

we were talking about not finding survs so i dont think you can slug them when you cant find them

[tropic willow]

Nah thats Ash hes the chosen one. Or Alan Wake he is a reality warper

[gaunt dawn]

you have to apply pressure, totems slow them down, I like to use some totems because if they are rushing gens, they arent cleansing totems and by the time they realize, its too late

[midnight tusk]

eleven runs both

[gaunt dawn]

anyway, we were talking about the grimoire

[ember thorn]

i like totems too but i feel like its either winning my game or it get cleansed at the start and i lose

[stone kestrel]

especially since unbreakable and perks like that exist

[tropic willow]

Eleven needed help with a single psychic. Ash soloed armies of demons and zombies

[stiff obsidian]

Slugginf gives you more pressure than hooking, you don't lose time to hook, they can't pick them up immediately. And there is no anticamp.

Slugging makes survivors mad so they Play more boldly, which in turn makes them make mistakes. So you win.

Not that i do it.

[ember thorn]

yeah slugging is not worth it anymore

[gaunt dawn]

thats why I like to use killers that apply pressure when playing with totems, give them too much to juggle

[stone kestrel]

unless theyre all close and ur playing bubba or other killers like him

[gaunt dawn]

slugging is only useful if you have an alturistic team that is very coordinated

[tropic willow]

He also solo’d Freddy and Jason

[stiff obsidian]

• Its impossible to win vs that if you waste time hooking.

[ember thorn]

you can slug sometimes but its nor worth to slug whole game unless youre buba

[stiff obsidian]

Most effective way to win vs those teams is have endgame perks. My go to build is Remember Me, No Way out, Terminus, Noed

[stone kestrel]

or a flashlight squad that swfing when you try to pickup anywwhere that isnt a wall

[gaunt dawn]

some people run autodidact and stuff that lets you pick yourself up, at some point youll have to pick them up if they do it right

[stiff obsidian]

If i see 4 flashies in lobby i take lightborn always

[gaunt dawn]

lightborne isnt always necessary but its always useful

[ember thorn]

for me lightborn is a slot waste

[tropic willow]

Nah just bring franklins so they have to do the walk of shame back to their depleted flashlight

[stone kestrel]

ive never used lightborn, i see it as too much of a crutch

[gaunt dawn]

crutch

[stiff obsidian]

I like the aura read more + no saves

[stone kestrel]

yeah was abouta correct it

[tropic willow]

Fair

[stiff obsidian]

And it doesn't ususally hinder me replacing it. Since i run lethal if they point a flashlight i can see them for 12 seconds.

[gaunt dawn]

This point in time is the evolution of aura meta

[stiff obsidian]

Like if i have to take lightborn, losing sloppy doesn't matter to me, since i can just take an addon that does its job

But im not taking sloppy if there's no medkits

[gaunt dawn]

I think this conversation is getting a bit off topic though

[stone kestrel]

yeah

[gaunt dawn]

to bring it back, Someone mentioned aura reading for the grimoire survivor and I was talking about how I wouldnt mind if the new killer didnt hide

[stiff obsidian]

Eh, there's too little chats. They should just adda threads

[stone kestrel]

i mean if we get the first skin then there wont be much hiding with it

[gaunt dawn]

exactly, I want that one

[stiff obsidian]

Make this a thing 🙏

[stone kestrel]

they could just add the other skin as a buyable one

[stiff obsidian]

What's the point of the vote then

[gaunt dawn]

the thing about the killer skin is I think it changes the skeleton of the killer, much harder to change

[stone kestrel]

idk

[gaunt dawn]

the survivor could easily be skins

[stone kestrel]

i didnt think about that

[stiff obsidian]

The truth is people will always complain, and find stuff to hate. You can't please everyone. Even if you added every option someone would complain that it's too much, corporatw greed or that something doesn't fit

[stone kestrel]

exactly

[gaunt dawn]

yeah, probably and we are getting down to the details, the parts people will be most divided about

[stiff obsidian]

An unexiled version. Like one that looks uncorrupted or whatevs

[gaunt dawn]

Gotta be respectful of the winners

[digital lily]

right

[gaunt dawn]

were you guys here for Toast's edit?

I asked toast to make an edit for me combinding aspects of the first model, with the staff and using the faces on the mace on its legs instead of the faces it had

[stone kestrel]

i didnt know about it

[stiff obsidian]

I'd like to see the mace, but because they made it look like a straight long weapon will lose some votes. People won't notice the chain and that it's a flail

[stone kestrel]

if they patch it up it would probably be the best one

[digital lily]

Looks cool but the Staff looks a bit too dark in this combo

[gaunt dawn]

skins can always change the textures, its the overal concept thats important

[digital lily]

The face of the legs on the staff as well would be great

[gaunt dawn]

I too would love to see the light have more feathers/light

[digital lily]

yes

[gaunt dawn]

yes!

[digital lily]

I hope some more people will make their own concepts

Would be so interesting to see everyone’s vision

[spring belfry]

Can we vote yet?

[gaunt dawn]

There are probably commonalities between a lot of them, I think thats going to be important when deciding what to vote on. Skins can change a lot of details but not major details

[gaunt dawn]

9 hours from now

[stone kestrel]

all i want to see is something divine cuz it would be a first for a killer

[gaunt dawn]

I think its important for the killer to be unlike anything weve had before design wise

[digital lily]

Yes for sure

[stone kestrel]

i agree

[digital lily]

But I think that’s Bhvr problem

[spring belfry]

What options do we have now... Cus I keep hearing that it's out but I can't find anything about it

[digital lily]

Should be in #dbd-announcements

[spring belfry]

Finally thank you I don't know why I didn't check there

[gaunt dawn]

oh, no problem

[fluid root]

The first pic id choose the right, second Pic the right, third Pic top left, and final Pic the left one 💪🏻😍

[digital lily]

No problem <3

[stone kestrel]

i think the faces on the legs of the second one would fit better on the first one

[gaunt dawn]

though Im picking the left killer, Id like to see them change the faces on the legs @spring belfry

[fluid root]

I had a feeling you were oce also, had a look and I was right 😂

[digital lily]

I think the faces should be more human like in the junji itto skin of dredge

[stone kestrel]

how could you tell

[digital lily]

So you really see people screaming

[fluid root]

Id prefer the rights legs on the left

[spring belfry]

Idk I feel like it's too normal... The other ones has more of like a gore thing

[fluid root]

Your name , something about it screams aussie 😂

[stone kestrel]

is it the clanka

[gaunt dawn]

thats the difference in opinions. To me there is already enough viscera.

[fluid root]

Yeah , nah idk. The whole name, not just clanka

[gaunt dawn]

blood and guts have gotten boring

[spring belfry]

Maybe your right

[stone kestrel]

well you were right

[fluid root]

How many p100s gamer?

[stone kestrel]

none actually

[spring belfry]

It's just the whole glowing thing I feel like there's too much going on

[fluid root]

Oh- , new to dbd ?

[stone kestrel]

about 130 hours

[fluid root]

Oh, im on the brink of 6K 😂

[spring belfry]

WHAT?

[fluid root]

About 1k hours per year ive played

[gaunt dawn]

an angel to me should have an overwhelming presence, a twisted idea of purity with judgement. The fleshy one looks weaker to me

[fluid root]

10 p100s, working on 11th, my first p100 killer, madame Hag 💪🏻

[stone kestrel]

damn. ive prestiged about six killers and 2 survivors for the perks

[stone kestrel]

shes so underrated

[spring belfry]

Your picking the staff weapon or something else?

[gaunt dawn]

Il fine with staff or flail but Id prefer staff

[fluid root]

Honestly, and she doesn't get enough love, so ive decided to love her, plus shes model skinny 🤷🏼‍♂️

[stone kestrel]

cuz shes starved by the entity

[spring belfry]

Same but I think I'll pick the flail... I don't like the hammer one it's not fitting

[fluid root]

Makes her stronger 💪🏻 plus her "aughghgh" when she teleports is so me

[gaunt dawn]

I think hammer is the least popular one

[stone kestrel]

yeah i enjoy shutting down loops so much. The fact you can place down traps so fast and switch up chases is so fun

[fluid root]

🤌🏻

[spring belfry]

100% I think the most fitting is probably the staff but i wanna know what it would look like from the pov of the killer I mean I hope it's not too big and bulky

[stone kestrel]

trapper gets so much love but in my eyes shes just a better trapping character

[gaunt dawn]

it will look less bulky if it comes out at a bit of a distance

[fluid root]

Our of the 2 trap killers, yes, she doesn't need to walk arpund gathering traps to place

[spring belfry]

Yeah like it's floating away from the killer slightly

[stone kestrel]

and she starts with so many to place as well

[gaunt dawn]

like lich's dagger?

[fluid root]

I started grinding for her about 2 weeks ago, and sadly im only p35 🤦🏻‍♂️. Priorities and life is essential before dbd

[spring belfry]

Kinda yeah

[gaunt dawn]

Id like it if just floated beside the angel

[stone kestrel]

ofc. How do you farm for so many bp?

[spring belfry]

well yeah thats kinda what i meant

[fluid root]

Play efficiently and take BP offerings

[gaunt dawn]

codes, weekly points, events, tomes

[stone kestrel]

i never knew codes give bp

[gaunt dawn]

Anniverseries are also fantastic for grinding bp

[stone kestrel]

also 2v8 is great for it if u play survivor. there was a massive boost but im not sure rn

[spring belfry]

why cant i send pictures?

[gaunt dawn]

right this very moment you can play survivor side on 2v8 for a 3.5 boost

[gaunt dawn]

its a while and a lot of chatting

[spring belfry]

oh

[spring belfry]

well i was gonna show you somthing but nm

[stone kestrel]

yeah i got 400k from a match once but i think most of it was from a quest. rn its about 140k on a good match

[gaunt dawn]

does a good job at reducing spam, since the privilage is so easy to lose and so hard to gain

[gaunt dawn]

you can DM it to me, I wont mind

[fluid root]

This, ill be grinning the whole 1 weeks during anniversary 💪🏻 last anniversary i played which was 3 years ago, I completed 3 p100s and started the next to p32 i think , left with about 5-6K offerings

[spring belfry]

oh ok

[gaunt dawn]

I still have 6 characters to p3 but after that I can get back to my p100s

[fluid root]

Grinding* 2*

[stone kestrel]

hopefully we get a good lot of bp during the 10 year anniversary

[spring belfry]

i dm you

[gaunt dawn]

@spring belfry ah I see what you mean

[rose dagger]

What killer design are voting y'all?

[rose dagger]

Ngl I have an big issue with the face but maybe in game model looks good

[spring belfry]

Same at first i was gonna do the other one but you made me change

[gaunt dawn]

The model looks good and to me thats what matters, skins can always change details we dont like

[rose dagger]

True

[spring belfry]

yeah there will prob be a skin you like that will change the face

[stone kestrel]

maybe they can add like black liquid from the eyes to show that its like corruptd or smth

[rose dagger]

My biggest issue is the face for now, I don't like this type of Angel on the media designs but with the skins ik those details can change

Dredge and Skull are a big example

[stone kestrel]

dredge skins are so cool

[rose dagger]

Frrr

[gaunt dawn]

it depends on what media you consume

[spring belfry]

You saw the rift pass one dude

[stone kestrel]

which one?

[spring belfry]

For dredge the one that makes him like a house

[rose dagger]

A lot, Ik a lot of versions of Angels from the accurates to the biblical and more

[stone kestrel]

i just looked it up and that might be the coolest one yet

[rose dagger]

But ik the skins (that I will buy) will fix the stuff I don't like

[spring belfry]

Exactly

[spring belfry]

yeah i did the same with Singularity i hated his face but i have that skin that turns his head into a computer

[rose dagger]

Yeah that's my point

[gaunt dawn]

we have angels that we see in the renaissance era but those angels are actually based on greek and roman mythologies. Like Nike

[rose dagger]

Yup, I like more the biblical ones/ weirdcore ones

[gaunt dawn]

I think either convays this concept, I just dont like the visceral nature of the right one, I prefer the more ethereal one

I like the spaghetti of eyes on the one on the left

[spring belfry]

The like eye ones?

[rose dagger]

Yes

[rose dagger]

Same I preferd the other design but I like the body of this one, tbh im not a fan of the crab legs pick

[gaunt dawn]

also the eyes on the one on the right blend in too much into the fleshy bits. Im not a fan of the fleshy details, muscle and blue bones

[rose dagger]

Ik some poeple voted thinking it would have an entity spider legs but nope-

[spring belfry]

yeah same i was hoping for like a spider

[gaunt dawn]

having all those bright lights seems more divine to me

I like it

[rose dagger]

I think this material wasn't the best, I like how was going but both designs has their flaws and accerts

[spring belfry]

yeah i was about to say that i think we picked wrong with the material

[gaunt dawn]

gotta pick the closest one to the concept and then hope a skin comes out that "fixes" it.

I like how the legs are, the upper body and the wings are of the first concept. Not a fan of red though

I do like how massive the eyes are in the light one

[spring belfry]

we talked about killer but what yall picking for the grandma

[rose dagger]

I wasn't a fan too but I liked the idea of smt based on Guiger's art

[rose dagger]

Yeah 100% that

[spring belfry]

damn i was gonna pick the same 🤣

[rose dagger]

I think I have no doubts on the grandma

Same with killer weapon but the design is smt more hard

[gaunt dawn]

Grandma could always get her other options as skins though, I think with killer it would be tricker because it needs to match the skeleton

The killers hurdles will be killer skeleton and weaponchoice.

the light one looks more like its floating

which I think is what Id prefer

[rose dagger]

I think an mix of both designs could had been better on killer

But let's see whichs ones wins

[gaunt dawn]

Id preffer it if it didnt have legs all together but its fine, Ill deal

[rose dagger]

I'm yet a bit dissapointed with the killer design ngl

[gaunt dawn]

Well, it cant be perfect for everyone, its bound to dissapoint everyone at least a little bit

[rose dagger]

Yup

[gaunt dawn]

We can always hope for skins, thats my cope

[rose dagger]

I hope the skins are good and not like twins ones

I really hope we have an new dredge on dope skins

[gaunt dawn]

the main difference I see between both killer options is how the legs are connected and how ethereal vs visceral they look

[spring belfry]

Its just the legs looked so good when we were voting for them man im so sad about that

[gaunt dawn]

I still think the eyes in the abdomen of the light option are much more noticable

[spring belfry]

so its just a vote between a ethereal vs visceral

[gaunt dawn]

zoom in on the eyes of the one on the left, in its stomach, and then zoom in on the eyes in its wings. The eyes in its stomach is a much more vibrant option for conveying its design

[spring belfry]

If i could i think i would swap the face and legs between the two

I like the much more spread out legs

[gaunt dawn]

overall how are you feeling? Skeleton is probably most important so you should pick based on the legs

[spring belfry]

exactly man i really like the light one but i just have to go with the second one idk anymore ive changed like 3 times

[fluid root]

Img there's so much mental illness in one of the game discussions channels 🤦🏻‍♂️ they got trans, furries, theys and thems, bLacks, and all sorts of wtf

[gaunt dawn]

you like the legs of the visceral one?

[spring belfry]

Yeah i like how they are more spread out and not so close together like the first one

[gaunt dawn]

are we talking about the same thing?

[spring belfry]

wdym?

[gaunt dawn]

oh I kinda see what you mean

but like, all the legs on the visceral one come together in a claw like way, look at the joins between the legs

the visceral one will probably walk like a claw or spider

[spring belfry]

Yeah exactly i think i prefer that much more than the ethereal ive been wanting the spider thing ever since the first vote

[gaunt dawn]

I definitely think we should have a spiderlike killer, but do we really want that concept on an angel killer?

This thing is going to shoot light beams

[spring belfry]

I know its sad that we have to get the spider thing like this but if i dont pick it now im scared it may never come

[gaunt dawn]

it will, people have been asking for a spider killer since before hag

[spring belfry]

also i just dont want the ethereal to just float thats gonna be boring

[gaunt dawn]

I disagree but thats just going to be our opinion I suppose

[spring belfry]

idk anymore man

[gaunt dawn]

of the past 7 killers 4 of them float. I can see how youd be tired fo the concept of floating killers

lich, dracula, the first, krasue, they all float

[spring belfry]

yeah exactly and the first floats as well

[spring belfry]

yeah bingo

[gaunt dawn]

but the first isnt an angel, to be fair

[spring belfry]

True

[gaunt dawn]

Though I really like his human skin

[spring belfry]

same dude i want it but i dont wanna buy the rift pass

[gaunt dawn]

the rift will still be open for 2 more months incase you change your mind

[spring belfry]

yeah

Btw I never thought I'd love yapping about a design in my life 🤣

[gaunt dawn]

hey, its fun!

like, the way I see it is this. So far IVe gotten what I want, I wouldnt be surprised at all if I dont get what I want this next round, but regardless if I dont like it I can always hope for a skin that changes the things I dont like.

Im just incredibly more drawn to the ethereal one

[spring belfry]

I'm drawn to both idk which one I'm gonna pick I think I'ma do a coin flip

[gaunt dawn]

I have a thought experiment Id like you to try.
Imagine we didnt vote for this.
Now imagine either came out, just as is. would you be excited?

[spring belfry]

Damn...

I'd be equally for both

It's a new killer I'm always hype about new killers

[gaunt dawn]

right? its very cool that we even got this far, we are getting a divine killer, ones that have an elegant theme, Weve never had that before

[spring belfry]

Yeah

[gaunt dawn]

thats another reason why the ethereal natured one is important to me

[spring belfry]

Hope the next one is a spider

[gaunt dawn]

yeah me too! something eldritch

[spring belfry]

I just imagine the way the visceral one would walk and it just feels so cool in my head meanwhile the ethereal one would just float... Again

[gaunt dawn]

Id be happy with the floating, Id prefer it even. But then again I like that kinda stuff.

My favorite killers right now are both vecnas and dracula

and I prefer vecnas human skin too

[spring belfry]

The thing is the theme is like a corrupt angel is it not so wouldn't a more visceral look make more sense?

[gaunt dawn]

no, corrupted doesnt mean visceral, look at the eyes in the abdomen

[spring belfry]

My bad but I just now learned the word visceral from you so I might not understand it fully

[gaunt dawn]

meaty, fleshy

[prisma dirge]

Tbh the name would be "The Fallen" or "The Divine"

[spring belfry]

Ohh I thought it was like devilish

[prisma dirge]

It's possible it's a fallen angel my prediction

[spring belfry]

Probably

If it wasn't it would be just a plan old angel none of that flesh and stuff

[gaunt dawn]

I had a fantastic name for it last month

[spring belfry]

Do you remember it?

[gaunt dawn]

Arbitor

I could have sworn I had another name though, I have to go back

[spring belfry]

Can i add you btw talking to you is pretty fun

[gaunt dawn]

sure

[spring belfry]

I sent you a request

[restive kite]

pay 2 lose character ngl

[stiff obsidian]

How

[restive kite]

massive glowing character

in a dark, gloomy map doesnt match well

[stiff obsidian]

Pocket dimension accounts for that

[patent pumice]

Not every killer is gonna be stealthy

• it says "not to scale"

[restive kite]

yeah but surely im not ment to see the killer from the other side oft he map

[stiff obsidian]

Oni in power lol

[restive kite]

not permenant mode though

[stiff obsidian]

Killers with strong powers have to be visible

Or loud

Having a pocket dimension removes two survivors from the match, 1 has to be in there another has to pray them out of it

• after that they have to heal

[gaunt dawn]

The killer literally gets to send survivors away for a while

and has a beam of light aoe that moves

[stiff obsidian]

106 as a skin

[restive kite]

how on earth do we know if this one gonna be strong

[stiff obsidian]

Literally read what i just typed

We know the power, we know how that the PD removes two people from the match for a period of time

[restive kite]

oh cool

[stiff obsidian]

+its an ANGEL also so it has to be powerful

Or have a sense of mighty power, if not particulary strong. The same eminence that pyramidhead has

[restive kite]

This killer sounds fun.

Will the angel be able to transfer between pocket dimensions or..?

[restive kite]

SCP-106?

[stiff obsidian]

Yeah, since the pocket dimension and all

[restive kite]

Yeah, I've wanted an SCP crossover for a good while now.

[stiff obsidian]

I doubt it, would be cool tho.

[restive kite]

SCP-096 Blight Skin.

[stiff obsidian]

Won't happen prob due to licensing issue

[stiff obsidian]

610 Dredge

[restive kite]

YES.

[stiff obsidian]

939 xeno

[restive kite]

SCP-049 Killer.

[stiff obsidian]

Model prited from lab

[restive kite]

SCP-049 would actually fit in as a normal killer.

[restive kite]

definetly

[gaunt dawn]

When the new killer is finished Id really like a statue I could put in my room

With its powers of being able to send someone into a pocket dimension, I wonder if concepts of haunted by daylight will ever be used

[restive kite]

The new character is statue worthy.

[onyx geyser]

Bye i missed so much info where is this said

[restive kite]

Weapon doesn't match that well.

They need to add some more blue to the weapon.

[gaunt dawn]

you dont think so? Keep in mind small details can be fixed with skins, the real choice here is hammer, flail or staff

[stiff obsidian]

The ones that fit in are:
049, 106, 939, 953, 457, 966, 076-2, 1399, 035 there could be unique powers for all if them
As for survivors: Dr.Bright

[gaunt dawn]

I agree

[restive kite]

I think they just need to add some more glowing blue to each weapon.

[restive kite]

SCP-096 could start screaming when the blight rush begins.

[stiff obsidian]

Fiery sword for an angel would be the best way to complete the killer

[restive kite]

As its recharging you can hear the screams of him going insane. (Client Sided)

[stiff obsidian]

Just too black and white of a character. You look you die, same for 173

[gaunt dawn]

I want the angel to have the voice of the "angel" from the adventures of mark twain but in latin

[stiff obsidian]

I would want it to speak in some weird languagae that is incomprehensible

[gaunt dawn]

so latin

I joke, I joke

[restive kite]

If they where to make SCP-096 a custom killer, they most likely would make it so it gives haste to the killer when the player looks at it.
Even then it would most likely be an addon or a hex.

[gaunt dawn]

I didnt even think about addons yet

[stiff obsidian]

The iris will be so the beam no longer slows down in structures but you cant see survivors while using it

[gaunt dawn]

every killer seems to have at least 1 addon that changes how their power works, I cant even imagine what addons they could be thinking up for this one

[fickle scarab]

SCP isnt possible due to licensing issues

[restive kite]

Either way, I think any other SCP killer other than SCP-049 would be a customization.

[stiff obsidian]

That's my guess

[restive kite]

Unfortunately. 😭

[stiff obsidian]

Yeah, sad though

[gaunt dawn]

I thought SCP was some kind of made up internet thing by younger horror fans?

[fickle scarab]

Thst is MASSIVELY underselling it

[stiff obsidian]

That's why it can't be licensed, everybody owns it technically

[gaunt dawn]

I could troll people and say I figured SCP was a stock option

[gaunt dawn]

at that point falls under fair use then, its not an problem

[stiff obsidian]

What could be made is an DBD inspiredn asymetric scp game

[stiff obsidian]

Yeah but someone will complain people always do, they'd probably have to make them free characters for all i know

[frosty mural]

I used to think this but how r the scp games allowed

They cost money so it’s not a profit thing

[gaunt dawn]

Uri Geller sued TPC because they said that kadabra was resenbling his likeness in a destructive manner

Anyone can claim someone is "stealing their idea"

[stiff obsidian]

I just looked it up why

The SCP Foundation operates under a Creative Commons Attribution-ShareAlike 3.0 (CC-BY-SA 3.0) license, which requires any derivative work to be released under the same license. This means that if Behaviour Interactive (BHVR) were to create an SCP-themed killer, survivor, or map, they would have to open-source the entire content, allowing anyone to freely copy, modify, and even sell it — which is not feasible for a commercial game.

[gaunt dawn]

Konami patented minigames being playable during loading screens

[stiff obsidian]

They have said that they could make SCP inspired killers

[gaunt dawn]

Apple tried copyrighting curved edges on cellphones

[stiff obsidian]

Nintendo tried patenting the idea of catching creatures in games, and i think that went through

[gaunt dawn]

not exactly but its a long winded explanation

[frosty mural]

Ah i c

[gaunt dawn]

Besides the idea of a top secret facility exploring phenomena isnt a new concept. SCP foundation is about 30 years late, Xfiles happened long before

Please tell me people today know X files

[fickle scarab]

Its a collaborative work that falls under collective and public ownership. Anything created in relation to a property under creative commons has to be open to be modified and republished by anyone. When it comes to games, they have to be open source and permitted to be reposted and modified.

DBD itself is not creative commons (obviously) and is specifically owned by Behavior. In order for DBD to have an SCP chapter, DBD itself would have to be creative commons.

[flat bison]

Whats x files?

||i rememeber that disturbing episode where they find the baby||

[gaunt dawn]

This is what sucks about reaching your 40s, something comes around, a bunch of people who see a concept for the first time love it and your own experience with such a thing fades into obscurity

[fickle scarab]

Youre kidding right?

[gaunt dawn]

I felt betrayed when people called kenye a genius for "inventing" better harder faster stronger. Not even knowing about Daft Punk

[gaunt dawn]

I think they are joking

oh, the twilight zone was fun as well

[fickle scarab]

Oh, id didnt look at the spoiler text

[haughty rivet]

Guys I really don't know which killer design to choose from.

I really like the "cleaner" one because it is what I imagined when voting for everything else. I'm just not crazy about the very human face and breasts it has (and the giant aura around it).

On the other hand I love the idea of a divine being getting corrupted in some way with the flesh pushing out of its stone skin and trying its hardest to stay together with bindings. But I'm not crazy about the (wooden???) legs it has, I would've preferred it to have the sharp white ones.

I'm trying to imagine both in-game

[gaunt dawn]

there will always be skins in the future, I would pay more attention to the skeleton of the model and the weapon because those wont be changed no matter what kind of skin it gets

[restive kite]

They could technically make SCP-049 and just call it a plague doctor.

[onyx geyser]

wanted a plauge doctor killer forever

[gaunt dawn]

I know what Im going with

[onyx geyser]

twin

[restive kite]

Just needs some more blue on the weapon.

[haughty rivet]

by the way, is it just me or does this design kinda make it look like the front legs are separated from the body?

[gaunt dawn]

yeah, a skin would fix that

[haughty rivet]

but not the back legs

[silver galleon]

Yess

[restive kite]

Its probably connected by the blue energy.

Otherwise its just a piece of the leg connecting it which can't be seen from this image.

[deft minnow]

Bro really picked the worst of both worlds

[onyx geyser]

best

[haughty rivet]

disagreed

[restive kite]

I prefer the other model, this one needs a little more gore though.

[haughty rivet]

staff is good. We haven't had that kind of weapon

[deft minnow]

It looks like a metal winged porcelain puppet taken over by a flesh monster cosplaying a wizard, its horrid

[onyx geyser]

The staff reminds me of Mercy's staff from overwatch

[deft minnow]

Even worse

[onyx geyser]

alone on this one

[haughty rivet]

The way I interpreted it was a divine being getting corrupted and trying its hardest not to succumb to their monstrous side (the flesh).

[restive kite]

I think the middle weapon is the most unique one we could have.

[onyx geyser]

isnt it just like blight

[haughty rivet]

The way it ties itself together with the rope/lace tells us so much about the character

who has a staff???

[deft minnow]

Nah, yesterday the whole chat was agreeing but those people are US so they aint here rn

[restive kite]

Blight, even then I think that the middle weapon is the most unique option.

[fickle scarab]

Blight uses a cane. Also thats one dude

[haughty rivet]

and that's "too many" ?

[restive kite]

hence I just deleted my initial message.

[haughty rivet]

🫩

[stiff obsidian]

Flail should win

[deft minnow]

Which N2 fits better, as it looks like an actual angelic being with real feathers thats being corrupted rather than a doll

[restive kite]

No.2 Is the best option for killer wise.

[haughty rivet]

oh I thought you were already talking about #2

[restive kite]

No.2 for both killer and weapon. 🔥

[deft minnow]

Exactly what im saying

The flail and the one with actual legs are both peak game design

Way better than this neon blue puppet

[restive kite]

Since DBD is a horror game, we've had a limited amount of killers that represent that horror theme. No.2 for the angel is the best idea that they could've made so far.

[deft minnow]

Exactly, plus it's way more biblically accurate considering the real wings and the fact it has eyes on said wings

[restive kite]

Survivor wise, if you mix No.1 and No.2 that could make something cool.

[haughty rivet]

we're doing a divine killer, not a biblical one

[haughty rivet]

I definitely like #2 more but I can agree with the people who don't like it who say that we've had so many monstrous killers that are just "blob of flesh" and that they want something new

[gaunt dawn]

I disagree, most of what weve had was visceral

[restive kite]

This one isn't a blob of flesh, its mixed between the first design and our classical gore design.

[deft minnow]

Ahh yes, the devs give us a chance to make a biblical angel, but nah, let's make a porcelain puppet instead guys, cuz that makes sense

[haughty rivet]

you're being really rude right now

[deft minnow]

Do i look like i care

[haughty rivet]

We're having a nice discussion. can you not be a little snowflake and just engage without being rude about it?

[deft minnow]

Im being honest, you not liking my honesty is not my problem

[fickle scarab]

We only had one singular killer that fits the "blob of flesh" description.

Also actual monsterous and inhuman killers are something people actively ask for more of because there arent as many.

[haughty rivet]

Edgy little boy, what you're doing isn't "honesty", it's called being a bitch for no reason.

[gaunt dawn]

there seems to be 2 major camps. Some people want the more gorey visceral nature of the second one and others and the more ethereal vibe of the first one.

The first one seems closer to me to a divine killer

[restive kite]

Dredge, Unknown, and Krause.

Still agree though.

[haughty rivet]

🙂‍↕️

[deft minnow]

The fact that you feel pressed enough to where you have to verbally downgrade me to feel better about yourself speaks volumes

[haughty rivet]

You're still talking? move on, bro

[restive kite]

Your*.

[fickle scarab]

Youre doing the same thing tho

[haughty rivet]

... I'm hoping you're joking

[gaunt dawn]

Ive been awake since about 16 hours ago and so far a lot of people are saying the ethereal one + staff. But thats just here, the most vocal of demographics. we will see what happens when the votes really start coming in

[deft minnow]

You're the one who keeps replying

[haughty rivet]

The irony is lost on you

[fickle scarab]

From what ive seen here its a mix

[restive kite]

Indeed.

[gaunt dawn]

Hammer is the only for sure thing thats going to lose though

[haughty rivet]

ok good lol

[fickle scarab]

Earlier everyone was agreeing the spider design

[gaunt dawn]

were you here since they announced it?

[restive kite]

I've recently only really taken a look at the no.2 design, it looks really good suiting DBD in general.

[onyx geyser]

I agree, a hammer is too destructive compared to an angel which is meant to be an ascended badie

[fickle scarab]

I was here when peopoe were initiallt discussing it. Also they never announced it. Some content creators just got early access and posted about it

[haughty rivet]

ascended baddie goes crazy lol

[fickle scarab]

When is the stream today btw

[gaunt dawn]

I was talking when it first dropped so you must have seen me

[fickle scarab]

I dont remember

[gaunt dawn]

its ok, lol

[deft minnow]

Well, I was initially just being critical of the angel design, I have at no point actually insulted him while he insulted me trice

[gaunt dawn]

overall its clear, flail + design 2 or staff + design 1

[fickle scarab]

I like the hammer

[gaunt dawn]

I can understand either choice tbh. like I wouldnt be terribly upset if mine lost, that being said I strongly feel like it should be more ethereal than organic looking

Ethereal to me says more divinity

[haughty rivet]

I like the flail a lot, I'm just wondering if the physics of the game will make it look silly

[fickle scarab]

I would be upset if the spider design didnt win personally but not up in arms about it

Just super disapointed

[gaunt dawn]

Everyone is bound to be at least a little upset the more detailed it gets, thats just the nature of democracy

[gaunt dawn]

probably like plague

[fickle scarab]

We have Plague's incense censee

[haughty rivet]

there is a slight difference because Plague holds the scepters' chain, while this would be 2 points of connection

not sure if that would change anything since I don't do game design

[gaunt dawn]

I think it will be animated all the same

[fickle scarab]

Plague's weapon is a censer

[gaunt dawn]

recycling things is a core aspect of game development

[fickle scarab]

I doubt it would be recycle

They showed off how theyre making new animations for this killer. Survivor kneeling thing.

[gaunt dawn]

I really liked how they changed the light beam

[haughty rivet]

does anyone have image perms here?

[gaunt dawn]

anyone red or pink

[haughty rivet]

I don't but I wanna send a crude image I edited, So I'll send it to someone and they can send it here

[gaunt dawn]

alright, go ahead

@haughty rivet their concept

mine

[haughty rivet]

I really like this combo

[fickle scarab]

That looks stupid

[gaunt dawn]

They have completely different vibes

[haughty rivet]

🙁

[gaunt dawn]

I dont think it does, its different for sure

it fits more with what we already see a lot of in the game though IMO

I still preffer my ethereal one

[fickle scarab]

I would rather have a mace over a flail personally

Or at least a longer handle on the flail

Not an option tho

[gaunt dawn]

yeah I think mace would have worked better but Im still team staff

[manic spruce]

Is the surv with blue hair coming to dbd?

[fickle scarab]

No

[manic spruce]

WHAT

[tropic willow]

Nope

[fickle scarab]

The old woman won the voting. Are your really so out of the loop?

[light ocean]

Cooler power doesn't mean higher chance of coming btw
Pennywise isn't coming anytime soon, too strict & Paramount's deal with WB made it more difficult for him to come
Idk what you gonna disappoint about Jason, about his power potential?
Popularity & icon>Power potentials

[manic spruce]

I’m not a regular player no I just like playing events mostly

[fickle scarab]

I see

[restive kite]

A Quiet Place is extremely popular...

Atleast used to be, unsure about now.

[fickle scarab]

The new Scary Movie has A Quiet Place listed as among the movies its going to parody. That says a lot.

[light ocean]

Ok, tell me how many people wanted A Quiet Place in dbd & how many Surveys has it showed up in licenses?

[restive kite]

I said popular, not that anyone wants in DBD. 🤣

[light ocean]

Does bhvr want that license? How open the ip holders are...

[fickle scarab]

That said, its not among the most commonyl requested licensrd things

[restive kite]

It'd be cool to have in dead by daylight, but I dont see anyone wanting it in the game.

[light ocean]

Popular in terms of what? Popular ip to be added or popular outside dbd?

[restive kite]

Outside of DBD.

[light ocean]

Ok... got it...

[fickle scarab]

Most commonly requested off the top of my head are Jason, Predator, Junko from Daganronpa, Big Daddy from Bioshock, Art the Clown, Slendrrman, and Pennywise.

[light ocean]

Art has more chance than Predator lwk...

[restive kite]

One day I do hope to see Jason in the game.

[tropic willow]

Feel like Predator is more likely since wtf would even be Art’s power

[fickle scarab]

Im sure he will be for the anniversary. Jason I mean.

[light ocean]

Something ties to Terrifier 2...

[fickle scarab]

We got Springtrap, so Jason is the logical next step

[light ocean]

Power potential isn't gonna make them added to the game lol...

Look at Springtrap, lazy power design but still popular

Popularity & demand matter more than anything

[fickle scarab]

Springtrap wasnt lazy

[light ocean]

His power was lazy, theme was spot on...

[tropic willow]

So predator is still more likely by that logic still

[light ocean]

Art is more popular than Predator, Predator hype died off...

[fickle scarab]

His power was deffinitely not lazy. It might appear so if you assume its intended to be just huntress 2

[light ocean]

No commitment from bhvr yet...

[tropic willow]

Idk anyone personally that cares about art but multiple that like Predator

[light ocean]

Art has released & stayed active for years now as of currently, Predator hasn't shown much new things to keep up the hype...

[tropic willow]

Sides Terrifier is a pretty trash horror movie just overly gorey with no actual substance

[fickle scarab]

Art is like Jason to a modern audience. Terrifier movies are similar in broad premise just wsy more horrific and dark

[light ocean]

Lot of people don't want Art & Jason coz their power potential skepticism...

[tropic willow]

Ive never once seen someone say they dont want Jason what are you talking about

[fickle scarab]

Jason could swap between different wespon as apart of his powet

Anyways we should move on. Were so off topic

[tropic willow]

Different attack types based off the weapon would be interesting

[light ocean]

Nah dude, the devs told all of us that his power is gonna be grab based, guess what? That didn't happen, they basically put the grab that's inaccessible like 90% of the time, irrelevant

Where's the nature of his grab focused power?

[gaunt dawn]

Getting off topic happens a lot, this is just game-discussion #2 sometimes, lol

but, I can see how it happens, a lot of aspects of the game are intertwined

[fickle scarab]

Licensed-Killer-Suggest-discussion

[light ocean]

I don't see an issue, #game-discussion went off topic lotta times...

[light ocean]

Real, we should've this...

[gaunt dawn]

I figure that someone at bhvr actually reads this

based on some of the decisions Ive seen made, they are definitely listening

[light ocean]

As much he's a weapon genius, I don't want that kind of power in the game, feels way too uncreative...

[tropic willow]

Not listening enough sadly. 😭 a lot of us wanted a non human head

[gaunt dawn]

I always said I wanted a blanco Volto Venecian mask for a face

They did make a face that kinda looked like a venecian mask

[tropic willow]

See even that would be better than the options we got

[gaunt dawn]

There are always skins, whats important is the skeleton of the killer and what weapon we choose

the ethereal option is the closest to what I wanted, its good enough for me

[tropic willow]

Might vote for the 2nd killer since i like the decomposed torso

[gaunt dawn]

That just takes away from its divineness to me though

[potent mural]

I wouldn't be surprised if they added the not decided design for killer or survivor as a skin ngl

[gaunt dawn]

well the only issue with that is the skeleton, but I can see them carry over the overall concept. from one to the other

So like, the overall frame of the killer for example

[potent mural]

Yeah

[gaunt dawn]

I can imagine mixing up the textures, skins adding detains here or there. Im mostly focused on the legs and wings

[potent mural]

I really hope the more meaty one wins because I really like the dark eyes all over and the wings on the legs

[potent mural]

But yeah, that would definitely be a challenge to adapt to if they make the loser a skin

[gaunt dawn]

I could imagine a skin that gives the left one more meaty features or make it darker.

I just overall love the left one

[wraith onyx]

We should have both licensed killer suggestions as what the community wants (but this i don't see happening because it's based on licensing and shit), and an original character concept suggestions, and if you're suggestion gets added you can have a skin custom made for you or something like that

[gaunt dawn]

I cant wait to vote

[potent mural]

I get why, I love both... I kinda wish there was a combo between both

[gaunt dawn]

well, yeah, I imagined something a bit more different myself but what weve been given, its still pretty good design overall

Id prefer porcelain faces on the knees though

[potent mural]

I wonder how they would execute the little white floaty bits tho

[gaunt dawn]

edit made by Toast

[gaunt dawn]

thats actually pretty easy to do nowadays

I do hope it radiates

[potent mural]

That'd be cool

[gaunt dawn]

Some people are wanting this thing to be a stealth killer and that boggles my mind

Im pretty sure both of these are going to be pretty tall

[potent mural]

What im voting for for killer is the staff and the more meaty looking design

[wraith onyx]

I like the staff, but honestly wish it was slightly less meaty and looked more angelic, like the meaty look makes sense for a giant ass axe or maybe even the flail, but the staff seems more like a magically divine weapon than a meaty mess

[potent mural]

But how would they even do that? And if they want it to be stealth just use perks

[gaunt dawn]

Also the eyes are much bigger on the one I want

[wraith onyx]

Bold to choose the meaty looking killer tbh, it looks like a corrupted statue more than a diving angelic killer which is what it's supposed to be, the 1st one just first the theme better imo

[gaunt dawn]

the meaty wings you cant really tell from a distance that it has extra eyes, to me it has too many similarities with singularity and dredge in that sense

I always figured this thing was suppose to be divine in nature, not eldritch

[wraith onyx]

Yup, that's why the one that's less meaty and has more angelic glowing wings and a sleek feminine design fits the whole theme better imo

The meaty one just looks messy for a divine killer imo

When is the vote happening today tho?

[potent mural]

I get what you're saying about the meaty killer design but mainly want it because it has more details I like compared to the other one ngl

[gaunt dawn]

Im really curious about what the larger demographic of people will think though

[gaunt dawn]

more details how?

[fickle scarab]

Do we know when the stream wkll take place?

[potent mural]

I like the halo, legs, and the hands

[gaunt dawn]

the first one has a halo, I agree about the hands but the blue skeleton makes it look necromantic. The legs are too spiderlike which I know some people like but it feels to me more eldritch in nature

I am not a fan of the fact it has a blue skeleton

[potent mural]

I wonder what type of cosmetics the killer will get tho

[gaunt dawn]

both have lots of potential, I can imagine a skin that makes the one on the right look less meaty and more traditional but nothing could be done about the spider legs, the one on the right I can see a skin that makes it look groser if thats what someone wants

[potent mural]

And with the survivor their purple outfit makes them look more like a gypsie

[gaunt dawn]

The survivor is probably the easiest one because her other options could easily be turned into skins, its non-issue with the survivor at this point

[potent mural]

Yeah, but it's mainly just which we want for free for the survivor