grimoire-discussion

[fleet vessel]

nope

[gusty cipher]

that would be cool

[fleet vessel]

i mean nothing exact

[outer meadow]

yes we do???

[calm rain]

You can also be sent to a pocket dimension

[gaunt dawn]

I wish they would do an infograph of everything we have up to this point, last thing they released about the votes was in mid jan

[fleet vessel]

i mean exact build lol

[gaunt dawn]

that honestly should have been freddies power a long time ago

[calm rain]

True

[outer meadow]

oh. Well we at least KNOW the power itself and what it vaguely does.

[outer meadow]

if the pocket dimension is a skillcheck ill be so pissed

[gusty cipher]

i can’t wait to see how the pocket dimension will look like

[waxen island]

All I can say as someone whose started playing DBD in 2019 is this: If this killers power is as it states in the chapter info panels, its either going to be really good or heavily nerfed.

[calm rain]

Me when I get hit by that beam

[waxen island]

As a guy who loves doctor and plague...oh the things I can with that.

[outer meadow]

its going to be good but will get heavily nerfed because sweaty survivor tryhards are the queens and kings of bitching and moaning

[waxen island]

Well then we go running to our guys on YouTube, v.h.s.x and the like.

And start up a fuss.

Not much else you can do.

RELEASE THE MEMES...

[calm rain]

In what way

[calm rain]

Meme? Random meme time?

[fleet vessel]

stared directly into the sun

[waxen island]

Yes.

[outer meadow]

"the killer is too OP because I dont know the counterplay" they say as they run the most cracked out survivor perks.

[fleet vessel]

the people who most likely give feedback are people with 10k hours who don't think about how the characters and perks gotta also be for people with 10 hours LMAO

[waxen island]

Well yeah. That. The thing Is, sometimes it has other vectors. But strats are fine. It doesn't mean dong when I, the killer, actually knows what the hell I am doing.

[calm rain]

One more meme- endless asked for more

[gusty cipher]

relatable

[waxen island]

But ive encountered many decent survivors in character. Ive shown grace.

And some really whiny bastards too.

[calm rain]

Lmao

[waxen island]

Very gud.

[outer meadow]

im just waiting for bhvr to nerf vecna into the ground like they do 9 times outta 10 with new killers because of survivor complaints

[calm rain]

Honestly I just wanna eat ice cream with a tactical shovel in general

[waxen island]

Ok I need food and to laundry. I worketh my part time job at FedEx.

So sleeeeep.

[gusty cipher]

bye!

[waxen island]

Not a bad job. Good exercise. Polite coworkers.

Gnight.

[waxen island]

[gusty cipher]

indeed

[bright sparrow]

Probably heavily nerfed as long as survivors whine loudly enough

[calm rain]

Night frog with golden teeth and a tuxedo

[bright sparrow]

behaviour listens a lot to the people who are the loudest regardless of what side it is

[outer meadow]

which usually seems to be survivor

[calm rain]

Would anyone else like to hear me out on the quiet place death angel idea?

[outer meadow]

i think them teeth rotten not gold 💀

[gusty cipher]

they balance their game around survivors so

yeah

[gusty cipher]

yes

go ahead

[bright sparrow]

Which is dumb tbh

You shouldn’t be balancing the game based off one side specifically

[gusty cipher]

exactly since killers need shit too

[bright sparrow]

it should be balanced based off what actually needs changes

They also just need to make a better tutorial

the one in game is so outdated it’s not funny

[calm rain]

Power: you are blind BUT can hear when survivors are running and working on gens if they do a fast action there auras will be revealed or if they missed a skill check

[bright sparrow]

and atp just add an in game wiki of sorts where you can look up status effects, killer powers and the effects of those along with things that aren’t directly stated in the descriptions

[bright sparrow]

How would the blindness work?

[calm rain]

They can also do a charged up ability we’re they build up speed

[bright sparrow]

If it’s straight up you can’t see anything at all then no sadly that wouldn’t work at all

[calm rain]

You see the outlines of building and the area but everything is black

[bright sparrow]

Maybe

[outer meadow]

me when i think im going forward but im actually just running into the leftside shed wall and all four survivors stare at me like im slow:

[bright sparrow]

I’d say though if they did that then the killer should also get killer instinct or aura whenever survivors are running

assuming this is about death angels

[calm rain]

At least you can’t get blind

Light born built in

[bright sparrow]

and not just for fast vaults

[gusty cipher]

hmmmm

[calm rain]

I’d like the killer can do a fast vault to when speed is charged up

[fleet vessel]

what

oh if they're blind

otherwise thats bs omg

[bright sparrow]

Yea they’re talking about a death angel from quiet place

If it was added as a killer

[fleet vessel]

righhtt

[bright sparrow]

I’m like if they can’t see anything then they need to have killer instinct or aura if survivors run since they’d be making noise

fits the lore of the death angels too

killer instinct would probably be what behavior would do

if they ever did that

[bright sparrow]

It would also probably have to be within a certain radius

[calm rain]

They can see the aura of generators being worked on

[bright sparrow]

maybe just inside the killers terror radius

[calm rain]

If that makes it better

[calm rain]

I guess

[gusty cipher]

any of u guys got survivor concepts

curious

[calm rain]

I was thinking xenomorph type of seeing theme run

[bright sparrow]

Not just for balancing sake but also for mental sake because hearing killer instinct constantly halfway across the map when in chase with someone else would grow annoying after a while

[gaunt dawn]

wizard

[calm rain]

HMMMM

THE DAD

as soon as the death angel charges at him the fog takes him and the beast

[gusty cipher]

[bright sparrow]

so maybe just have the death angel have a larger than standard terror radius and then anyone within it who runs, misses a skill check on gens, fast vaults, or is injured would give killer instinct (exception being injured with iron will)

[calm rain]

Also killer perk ideas— a perk that blocks lockers

[bright sparrow]

What would be a reason to use this?

I mean outside of the niche moment where someone has head on and you wanna stop them from getting in prior to it

or playing Vecna and wanna stop them from using the magic item

[calm rain]

And other reasons

[bright sparrow]

Such as?

[calm rain]

Bamboozle

[fleet vessel]

an investigator who has been investigating ALL the people who have gone missing so far

like theyre the only one who sees a connection between all these random disappearances

[bright sparrow]

Has nothing to do with lockers

[gusty cipher]

yo ts would be peak

[calm rain]

That one perk where you run past the locker and it opens it

[bright sparrow]

deception

[calm rain]

Idk what it was called lol

[bright sparrow]

even then that’s still a very niche instance and blocking it wouldn’t even really cause you to gain much or the survivor to lose much

[calm rain]

We do have a lot of perks that are niche tbh

[fleet vessel]

imagine searching for clues for years and then you finally hone in and you think you might have it

and you end up surrounded by those you were looking for all this time

[bright sparrow]

Yes but that doesn’t mean we need more

[gusty cipher]

too many

[calm rain]

Lmao

[gusty cipher]

it would be really cool lore wise

[calm rain]

Help drege

[bright sparrow]

I just fail to see any situation where the killer blocking a locker is actually useful and not just to deny some niche moment

[calm rain]

Or not

[gaunt dawn]

as a vecna main, I actually dont mind if they use the artifacts.

the eye one is incredibly easy to counter and the hand one is pure rng which will break them and youll be able to just fly to them. The real counters to vecna with the magic items are just the common items tbh

[bright sparrow]

Not really?

[bright sparrow]

Oh yea no I know lol

[calm rain]

Eh it was a random idea

Still would love to see the death angel

Hmmm… a perk where if you finish a gen- they are all exposed for a few seconds

[gusty cipher]

i wonder what other skins they can make when grimoire drops

[calm rain]

OOO

GOOD IDEA- I might return- BYYYYEEEEEEE

[bright sparrow]

Depends on how long the expose is for

this would be something that I think would be a hex perk or one of those perks like the one where you compromise it

[calm rain]

Yall can debate on that

[bright sparrow]

kick a gen to compromise it, when the gen is completed whoever was working on it screams and is exposed for 60 seconds or something

[outer meadow]

isnt this already a perk?

[bright sparrow]

I’m not sure

[outer meadow]

where after gens finish reveals all survs locations

[bright sparrow]

I know there’s dragons grip which is similar sorta. Kick a gen, anyone who gets back on it gets exposed

[bright sparrow]

Oh yea that one

[ruby mist]

THE OLD LADY WON

HAHAHAHAHAHAHAHA

[bright sparrow]

I think it’s rancor?

[bright sparrow]

Wait no there is another one I think

[outer meadow]

the evil has been defeatedddd

[ruby mist]

Rancor lets you kill the obsession when the last gen pops

[bright sparrow]

Yea but it also reveals auras

when a generator pops it reveals the killers aura to the obsession and reveals all survivors locations for 3 seconds

[outer meadow]

bitter murmur. Everytime a gen is completed reveals all surv auras within 16 meters of the completed gen

[ruby mist]

Are you sure you’re not thinking of bitter murmur bro

[ruby mist]

Yea

[gaunt dawn]

A rough rundown of the choices weve made.

The Killer:
Otherworldly - Divine - beautiful
wielder of exalted truths, torment, punishing heart, each sin is unique.

Briefly described as a debuff on each individual survivor that does something that triggers it, under each sin is unique it says "only prayer can save the sinner"

The Survivor:

Collapsed world, a life of endless mysteries, remember your studies, door of the divine, investigator, Spiritual scientist, Boldness

interpret this in any way you wish

[ruby mist]

The survivor is also the better pick of the two fuck the blue haired chick

🥸

I also like the material that won

[vague crater]

Real

“Ermm she could fit apocalyp-“ DONT CARE OLD WOMAN SWEEP

[outer meadow]

yes yall im so traumatized from my catscratch

over my eye

[vague crater]

Fr

[outer meadow]

i may be a scientist in an apocolypse being mercilessly hunted

by an angelic entity

[fleet vessel]

next surv: hit their toe against a table once

[outer meadow]

but i still find the time to dye my hair and beat my face with makeup!!!

[ruby mist]

She looks 19-late 20’s at most there’s no way she would fit

Ppl are js stupid

I mean I think that’s obvious

Observe the game play of anybody who voted blue hair girl expect to see windows of opportunity in the build and predrop pallets in Chase so they think they’re goated

[vague crater]

Ong

[gaunt dawn]

yall be hating too much, voting is over

[ruby mist]

So did you pick blue hair girl or?

[vague crater]

“Buh… she could… she was…” ALWAYS COULD AND WAS
OLD WOMAN IS
OLD LADY SWEEP

[ruby mist]

I don’t see why we can’t celebrate

Lmfao

[gaunt dawn]

no

[fleet vessel]

they run the same 4 perks

[outer meadow]

let us celebrate

[gaunt dawn]

we can do it without putting blue haired girl down

Im all for granny winning, granny ftw

[ruby mist]

Eh

Debatable

[fleet vessel]

oh shes fine its those freaks on x who i like to make fun of

[outer meadow]

no im putting her down

[gusty cipher]

she looked pretty tho u can’t deny

she doesn’t fit the chapter theme tho

[gusty cipher]

bro-

💀

[rustic kestrel]

I’m so glad granny won

[outer meadow]

she was pretty but oh my god she shouldve never left the design room and honestly we ALL know what bhvr was trying to push.

[gusty cipher]

i cant argue with that

she had potential tho, she would have pretty skins

[outer meadow]

im so maining meemaw

[gusty cipher]

bro got his prestige

but i don’t

[gaunt dawn]

she will definitely be within my top 10

[gusty cipher]

what is this damn

[outer meadow]

i been chatting here for a while

[gusty cipher]

how long

[ruby mist]

How can you be against blue haired but in support of vee

Genuinely asking

[gusty cipher]

i’m not against blue hair lol

[ruby mist]

Yuck

[gusty cipher]

when did i ever say that

[outer meadow]

2 weeks max

[gusty cipher]

i liked all of the designs

[ruby mist]

Well I’m happy you lost

[gusty cipher]

so not that long

[gusty cipher]

again i liked ALL of them

[ruby mist]

Idc

[gusty cipher]

why we can’t be civilized is crazy

[gusty cipher]

[outer meadow]

good always triumphs over evil

and today it did

[rustic kestrel]

Why we hating on others opinions man 😭

[ruby mist]

Stomped it into the ground thank fuck

[gusty cipher]

what im saying lol

[gusty cipher]

i just know you would throw a tantrum if blue girl won

[outer meadow]

yes i would

[rustic kestrel]

Every time a community gets to vote on stuff it ends up dividing them into hating each other for liking something different 😭

[outer meadow]

i would be livid that evil conquered once again

[rustic kestrel]

Happened with Minecraft, happened here

[gusty cipher]

exactly

like bro ur here to have fun and vote

lmao

[rustic kestrel]

I’m sad my goat Killer BobbleHead didn’t make it but that don’t mean ima insult others for not liking him

[gusty cipher]

it’s a video game

[gusty cipher]

absolute twin

[humble ice]

Yeah, people don’t know how to share their opinions respectfully it’s insane

[gusty cipher]

“if you have a different opinion you are less than me”

[humble ice]

Not even a dbd problem or a voting problem it’s just people online

[gusty cipher]

yeah

[humble ice]

Or maybe It’s just cuz all the fandoms I’m in are extremely toxic

[rustic kestrel]

Every game I play 😭 from overwatch to Minecraft to dbd, the toxicity never ceases-

[humble ice]

Fr

[gusty cipher]

be a chad and play story games

[humble ice]

Don’t forget marvel rivals..

[gusty cipher]

i finished stray the other day

and ghostwire tokyo

[ruby mist]

Not rlly..specifically if you’re part of the problem in dbd then you’re beneath everybody else

[humble ice]

Oh I haven’t played that in a while

[rustic kestrel]

I quit that game man 😭 no offense but the balance topped me the wrong way the entire time

[gusty cipher]

schlawg what problem is there?

[gusty cipher]

SOMEONE KNOWS GW

[humble ice]

I play too many games lmao

[gusty cipher]

ABSOLUTE CINEMA

[humble ice]

I used to be addicted to that bro

[ruby mist]

The amount of weirdos and garbage cans that flood the community

They’re all the same people

[gusty cipher]

ending had me crine

akito and kk are so peak

[rustic kestrel]

I tried rivals, got addicted to cap, but then a flying tank came in and I dldecided to go back to overwatch-

[ruby mist]

Who u play on OW

I played sigma

Haven’t played in a min

[rustic kestrel]

Brigitte

[ruby mist]

Love to see you guys

[rustic kestrel]

300+ hours of her, less than 70 on anyone else

[humble ice]

Guys.. don’t kill me im a sombra main..

[ruby mist]

Always putting in work

[ruby mist]

Dw twin you’re good I respect it

[humble ice]

But I play front lines

Mostly

[gusty cipher]

i haven’t played ow before

[humble ice]

Love playing sombra tho ppl say they’re gonna report me for using her kit it’s funny

[rustic kestrel]

Now’s the best time we got a jetpack cat today

[ruby mist]

Another L to hold

Play it

[humble ice]

DUDE THAT CAT IS GOING TO BE ICONIC

ACTUALLY

[gusty cipher]

💀

[humble ice]

ALREADY IS

[rustic kestrel]

IM SO EXCITED ima feel like a proud parent (since brig canonically adopted her)

[ruby mist]

Just watch the sigma lore trailer 🤦‍♂️

He’s the goat

You’ll see

[gusty cipher]

ight bet

[ruby mist]

Plus

Game is js peak

[gusty cipher]

i heard that blizzard was in a controversy with taking down ow1 and making ow2 worse in every way

[ruby mist]

I mean the community is a whole buncha geeks

But it’s still got cool characters

And I love the game

[vague crater]

The new tank looks cool

[ruby mist]

I only play sigma

He’s my goat

Sometimes torbjörn

No compromise

[rustic kestrel]

Ow2 doesn’t exist btw

[gusty cipher]

damn

uh

im not gonna say it

[vague crater]

She’s like Emma frost but better

[humble ice]

Smash

No question

[gusty cipher]

wait yeah she lowk look like emma frost

[vague crater]

Also she uses the same stuff symmetra uses so she’s goated

Hard light or whatever it’s called

[fleet vessel]

hot

[gusty cipher]

SHES BROWN

[vague crater]

And her primary fire is like ultrons

[humble ice]

In fact I’m smashing every new human character they just introduced

[rustic kestrel]

She’s the heiress to the company so

[gusty cipher]

noo wayyyy someone i can resonate with

[vague crater]

Her ult and everything look cool too

[fleet vessel]

i would never play ow but i respect how hot they are

[gusty cipher]

i might try ow just for her

shes bad

[humble ice]

Your opinion is valid ow can be frustrating

BRO I took a break from ow

[vague crater]

She has a full shield made up of squares that need to be broken individually, a primary like ultrons, her ult puts shields around enemies so they can’t shoot or heal

[humble ice]

I lost all my widowmaker skill

[gusty cipher]

i spent so much time on marvel rivals and stopped a while ago

[ruby mist]

@gusty cipher did you watch it

[vague crater]

I fucking love characters who use bubble shields offensively!!!

[rustic kestrel]

Wdym I’ve been playing this game for 3 years and can only manage masters 💔

[humble ice]

Her ult looks awesome

[gusty cipher]

hold on twin

in a bit

[ruby mist]

Sigh ok

It’s like 2 minutes long

[rustic kestrel]

Jetpack cat rho….

[ruby mist]

💔

[humble ice]

I’m a very casual player

[vague crater]

Like Mel from arcane getting maddie to shoot herself by putting a bubble around her when she was gonna shoot Cait

I love shields being used in creative ways!!

[gusty cipher]

last ow character i saw in my feed was juno

my god

[vague crater]

Gonna main her fr

[humble ice]

Off topic Mel is my favorite character in arcane other than jinx

[gusty cipher]

they know what they're doing

[humble ice]

Me too twin

[gusty cipher]

arcane so peak

[bright sparrow]

I’m against blue hair girl for this chapter and for the current time. I don’t think her design is bad but it’s just another in a long list of attractive young girls which has been the standard for original survivors for like 2 almost 3 years.

She feels stale because of that, but I wouldn’t mind her being added in a future chapter once we’ve gotten some different stuff.

[vague crater]

Vi, Mel, lest

[ruby mist]

Mf I forgot you can’t send links

[vague crater]

Those are my top 3

[gusty cipher]

i got it open im watching it now

[ruby mist]

Sick

[fleet vessel]

i am in general not fantastic at games so competitive games are never my style

[ruby mist]

SIGMA IS MY GOAT

[vague crater]

Cait is 4th, ambessa is 5th and Sevika is 6th

[humble ice]

Lest is very underrated

[vague crater]

She would be first but I need to be fr she didn’t get enough scenes

[humble ice]

Yeah

[gusty cipher]

dbd i like since its a competitive game but you dont get punished for losing

other games you do

[vague crater]

https://tenor.com/view/lest-arcane-arcane-season-2-gif-7629940471523605970

[ruby mist]

WHAT IS THAT MELODY

[vague crater]

I adore her design so much

[bright sparrow]

You do however get punished for playing efficiently but only if you’re playing killer

[vague crater]

And she’s transfem
She’s literally me

[bright sparrow]

cough anti tunnel cough

[humble ice]

My top 3 is Mel, Jinx, and season 1 Viktor

[gusty cipher]

true

[fleet vessel]

the only other competitive game i play is splatoon and my friends are dead into the competitive scene and im like haha! no! get me away from there!

[gusty cipher]

splatoon is so peak

[fleet vessel]

SHES TRANSFEM?-,%?#(#?

[bright sparrow]

some anti tunnel is fine imo, but there’s a lot that’s unnecessary. The additional haste added on top of the endurance along with buffing the duration to 15 seconds instead of 10 was so unnecessary.

[fleet vessel]

splatoon is like dbd fr if dbd cared even more about fashion and music

[gusty cipher]

fashion in dbd is already crazy lol

look at mins skins

[fleet vessel]

nothing compared to splatoon though its like their religion

[bright sparrow]

Like it used to be if you hooked a survivor far from the gates at endgame you could probably get the kill even if they got unhooked unless their team took protection hits. Now at endgame off the hook survivors can take the protection hit for their teammates and still make it out the gates even if they’re far away from them.

[fleet vessel]

yet people still get tunnelled so clearly its not changed much

[bright sparrow]

Then it’s literally a skill issue

[gusty cipher]

WHEN DO I GET IMAGE PERMSSSS

god damn it

i need it

[fleet vessel]

then killers just camp the guy and it doesnt encourage people to actually try be altruistic

[bright sparrow]

You have so much base kit protections and perks you can use to prevent/counter tunneling that if you still do manage to get tunneled it is most likely just a skill issue

[fleet vessel]

so is needing to tunnel

[bright sparrow]

Not really

[fleet vessel]

i think a killer is pathetic if they have to resort to it ngl

[bright sparrow]

Some killers are designed weak and if you don’t tunnel you’re gonna get 3 or 4 outed

[gusty cipher]

springtrap 🙁

[fleet vessel]

but if the matches arent properly skill based then you get people who arent great at chases dying over and over, which makes the game so unfun

[ruby mist]

So @gusty cipher did you like it

[gusty cipher]

y e s

[ruby mist]

Please say you did

YAY

[gusty cipher]

it was rly good

[bright sparrow]

Then those survivors need to get better at chase and behaviour needs to fix their matchmaking

[ruby mist]

AGREED

Sigma is so fun

[bright sparrow]

99% of tunneling can be countered by being good in chase

[fleet vessel]

how can they get better at chase if they dont get a chance?

[gusty cipher]

i lowk should change my nickname it was meant to be a joke at first lol

😭

[bright sparrow]

By dying, repeatedly, paying attention to what they did and how loops are designed and where they can run

[fleet vessel]

i don't think I'm that good at chase but it took me hundreds of hours to get decent

[bright sparrow]

watch YouTubers with thousands of hours

there’s so much someone can do to get better even if they’re being tunneled a lot

[fleet vessel]

looping is not intuitive. people dont want to have to watch youtubers for a game they want to play casually or those who just got the game

[bright sparrow]

Then they can stay bad???

It’s not on the killers to hand hold new players

[fleet vessel]

there needs to be a middle ground for people who just dont want to spend their life studying dbd

[bright sparrow]

the real solution is behaviour needs to make better matchmaking

[gusty cipher]

people who have 1200 hours in the game are considred INTERMMEDIATE

💔

[fleet vessel]

but its on bhvrs. which is why they buffered it.

[gusty cipher]

screw sbmm

[bright sparrow]

Exactly it’s on behaviours

so don’t expect killers to cater to new players

just because behaviour won’t do their job and make the game have good matchmaking

[fleet vessel]

exactly! I'm a fucking baby in comparison and I should be able to have fun without doing fucking research or learning the fucking innards of the games composition

[bright sparrow]

you can have fun

if you look at things differently

[gusty cipher]

or people who just want to have fun

[bright sparrow]

a lot of it is your view of the game

[gusty cipher]

people sweat too hard these days

[fleet vessel]

By being tunnelled immediately? Makes it hard.

[bright sparrow]

Then get better at chase.

you don’t need to be a god tier looper to play

[gusty cipher]

its harder for killer nowadays, 20 seconds in chase and a gen is already done

[fleet vessel]

DO YOU NOT FUCKING UNDERSTAND ME LMAO

It should be fun WITHOUT HAVING TO STUDY THE GAME

[bright sparrow]

Then clearly dbd isn’t a good game for you

[fleet vessel]

Hard to be sympathetic when I'm dead already

[vague crater]

Yea
The voice actor is transfem and she confirmed lest is also transfem

[gusty cipher]

idk any game where you have to learn the ins and outs of is not a game most have fun in

[bright sparrow]

Right and that’s fine but don’t play a game like that and then bitch about it not being enjoyable???

Like you can play other games

[fleet vessel]

No, I disagree. I don't care what others think. I've had loads of matches witb all killers where they played fantastic without tunnelling, so I know it can be done.

[bright sparrow]

It can be done yes in some matches.

Some matches it can’t.

[gusty cipher]

id say its a game that caters to sweats so sometimes u just have to adjust, bhvr doesnt cater the game to casuals or people who want to have fun

[fleet vessel]

Dude, it's literally just a complaint. Am I not allowed to have an issue with the game whilst still overall enjoying it?

[bright sparrow]

You wouldn’t punish survivors for getting a gen done in 30 seconds, so why punish the killer for getting a killer quicker?

[ruby mist]

I feel like it doesn’t even exist bro I carry every game and whoop ass every game and nothing changes either side

[bright sparrow]

You’re allowed to have your complaints but if you share them to a public forum then anyone has the right to express their opinion about said complaints

[gusty cipher]

yet its a whole different story when playing killer

[fleet vessel]

Exactly! That's my point. I should be able to have fun without putting thousands of hours into it. Some people do have a life outside sweating on dbd

And that doesn't mean I can't fucking play it

[ruby mist]

The game isn’t beginner friendly at all hop off dick bro

[bright sparrow]

Right I’ve literally said this before

I’ve said they need to make better tutorials

overhaul the games tutorial because it’s terrible and outdated

[gusty cipher]

THIS

[ruby mist]

The whole game should be shut down for a year or more so they can fix this shit hole

[gusty cipher]

instead of making a tutorial explaining perks they just autoequip a perk and call it a day

[ruby mist]

It’s so buggy all the time

[bright sparrow]

Not once have I ever said the game is perfect or that it’s beginner friendly or that it doesn’t need changes to make learning things easier

[fleet vessel]

"Wdym you don't know about all possible pallet locations or how to loop and what every add-on does"

I do look at the wikis and stuff and theres loads I don't know

New players? There's nothing for them. It took 9 years to get basic intro quests.

[ruby mist]

Chucky got a glitch with the new update and it’s overall just glitchy slop every update

[bright sparrow]

All I’ve said is you can’t play a game that is competitive in nature and expect to have fun when you’re playing casually and not willing to put in the work to learn the mechanics.

Obviously this would be easier with better in game tutorials which is something I’ve said needs to be done, but either way dbd is not a game you just pick up and have fun with out the box.

[gusty cipher]

the game needs a lot of bug fixing

[ruby mist]

Reading can fix half of that btw

[fleet vessel]

I DO read it all but it's still not always intuitive

I've played with new players on vc and trying to explain stuff is hard

[gusty cipher]

her point is that you should be able to have fun in a game without having to read so much about it, and that some people dont have the time to learn everything about the game

but with dbd yeah i agree you gotta know at least SOME stuff

[bright sparrow]

Right and that’s not really an issue

I’ll agree that how hard it can be to learn those things is an issue, but that’s why I’ve been saying there needs to be a better ingame tutorial

Another thing you can do to make it more fun is change your view of the game

[ruby mist]

I mean I figured everything out fairly quick I feel like it doesn’t take a genius to understand what most of the things in that game do

[bright sparrow]

Set your own win cons as well

Maybe run head on flashbang and make your win con hitting a certain amount of stuns

[ruby mist]

Not everybody can enjoy every game I mean if you can’t keep up don’t participate

[bright sparrow]

a lot of dbd’s frustrations can be rid by changing how you view things

[gusty cipher]

anyway ima dip bye chat

[bright sparrow]

Mind you this is what I been saying and you called me a dick rider for it lmfao

[ruby mist]

No because there’s a difference

Complaining about an amount of reading you’ve gotta do?

That’s fucking ridiculous

Don’t even

[fleet vessel]

ueah but people do come into the game not even knowing the controls

thats what the tutorial is for

it does not teach you about the rest of the mechanics

and people learn at different speeds and rates and all this needs to be considered

[bright sparrow]

There really isn’t lmao.

[fleet vessel]

but i do enjoy the game. im not going to stop because of some killer bullshit lol

[bright sparrow]

All I was saying was don’t play a game that requires learning how it works in a deeper than surface level way to truly play and then complain about it requiring that

[fleet vessel]

im not complaining about the amount of reading. i like learning, i read the wiki for fun. i meant if i brought a friend on today for the first time, theres very little that will help them from the get-go. i know, ive experienced it before

[bright sparrow]

It was also dumb because I flat out said the game needs better tutorials

[fleet vessel]

yeah it does

[bright sparrow]

I never denied the amount of reading was insane or that the game wasn’t beginner friendly or that there weren’t changes needed

[ruby mist]

Except there is? They were two separate things how smooth brained can one person be

Jesus Christ

[fleet vessel]

But I'm mainly trying to say that changes that make sense to high skill lobbies won't do anything but hinder low skill lobbies

bvhr needs their changes to work across the board

like a lobby with 5 people with less than 10 hours probably needs more help than a lobby with 4000 hours

[bright sparrow]

They were not. I was saying if you don’t enjoy a game that requires learning the mechanics to play then you shouldn’t play it. That is under the same idea of ‘Not everybody can enjoy every game I mean if you can’t keep up don’t participate’, which were your exact words.

[fleet vessel]

Maybe I'm just not making sense to you guys, it's very late

[ruby mist]

Referring to specifically the reading portion of the message you cherry picking cave man

Holy shit

[bright sparrow]

No I get your argument I just don’t agree with it

[bright sparrow]

Well no the thing I replied to was just talking about learning the ins and outs of the game, not specifically about the reading requirements.

[ruby mist]

I mean there’s lots of places that need change in the game but when it comes to player feedback on that they rarely seem to listen but also don’t have ideas themselves so we’re in an infinite stand still where we do nothing

[fleet vessel]

Learning the mechanics yes obviously, but for example, I think there should be more tooltips (or at least different ones) for when you face a new killer. It gives very brief hints but doesn't really explain their concept and core gameplay

[ruby mist]

Dude.

My

Fucking

Message

Was specifically about reading

Ragebait through extreme idiocy

[fleet vessel]

Of course you need to learn the game

But I shouldn't have to learn about where pallets spawn

I should be able to learn that entirely in game without having to find forums or wikis or youtube videos

like reading perks or whatever lol

like i can't imagine my dad reading a wiki to play a game lol and he likes playing dbd with me

[bright sparrow]

Right and I’ve been agreeing with that aspect of being able to learn it in game. I’ve literally said there needs to be a better tutorial system and an in game encyclopedia of features.

The only thing I’ve argued against is this notion that you should be able to enjoy it without having to learn it.

[ruby mist]

Pallet spawns can be learned through windows of opportunity but I wouldn’t suggest leaning on it too much or else it’s a permanent crutch and you’re wasting a slot

Of course lord douchebag over here ignores me

🙄

Anyways

[bright sparrow]

Dude I’m trying to find the message you’re referring to

[ruby mist]

@fleet vessel I would suggest running Kate densons windows of opportunity perk so you can learn pallets and windows

Personally I never used it

I just did every challenge and achievement in the game and learned with time

Helped me learn to play a wide variety of characters

And gain knowledge and skill

[bright sparrow]

but also it’s crazy how you’re going so hard on the insults when I’ve been nothing but respectful lmao

[ruby mist]

I don’t have patience for stupidity

My fault

Brother

[bright sparrow]

If this is how you get at a potential small misunderstanding I’d hate to see how rude you get when someone is actually stupid

[rigid plover]

He’s a troll, I’ve dealt with him before. He’s some SJW loser that insults you and then plays the victim when you say anything back

[ruby mist]

Makes sense

[rigid plover]

He’s told me to kill myself before lol

[cobalt ivy]

"sjw loser" bro

[ruby mist]

Oh wow

[bright sparrow]

All cuz I said we shouldn’t use slurs lmao

[halcyon crest]

Definitely shouldn’t use slurs

Lmao

[bright sparrow]

No actually I wished you a fate worse than death

[cobalt ivy]

i sure wonder what incident caused james to "leave" and rejoin the server

[gusty cipher]

yo HOW are yall still going at it

[bright sparrow]

because you were using slurs

[rigid plover]

And told me to kill myself

[gusty cipher]

😭

[ruby mist]

You are such a fuckin geek bro

[rigid plover]

I said a word that isn’t considered a slur by anyone but an SJW

[ruby mist]

Yea this dudes opinion is immediately invalid

[bright sparrow]

It is considered a slur by most people lmao

[gusty cipher]

can we get a mod in here

[ruby mist]

GTFO 😹

[halcyon crest]

But you’re afraid to use it again?

[rigid plover]

The server blocks the message

[ruby mist]

What is tha abbreviation even for bruh

[halcyon crest]

Because its a slur?

[gusty cipher]

[bright sparrow]

they were mad cuz I called them out for using a slur against disabled people

[cobalt ivy]

nobody considers it a slur but the server blocks it? sure

[rigid plover]

They block goober with an n as well. They block a ton of words

[bright sparrow]

This should be a sign that it’s not a word you should be saying…

[rigid plover]

Yes, they block hundreds of words that aren’t slurs and are just Gen Z slang

[halcyon crest]

Did you guys see who won the grimoire thing?

Serious question

[cobalt ivy]

there ain't nothing gen z about it, that word is older than you

[gusty cipher]

yeah its gonna be peak

grandma won

[halcyon crest]

YEEEAAAHHHHH GILFFF

[cobalt ivy]

grandma my goat

[bright sparrow]

Exactly

[halcyon crest]

wait thats so fire

[gusty cipher]

finally we are going back to a normal convo

[rigid plover]

I never said it was. Your point is that id it’s blocked I shouldn’t use it, yet I guarantee you use a ton of the words that are blocked

[gusty cipher]

ight bro move on

[halcyon crest]

Anyways, James

[gusty cipher]

please

[halcyon crest]

Gilf time

[bright sparrow]

James is just a loser who doesn’t know how to move on

[cobalt ivy]

sorry i dont talk with minors

[bright sparrow]

I’d recommend just blocking him

[halcyon crest]

That actually makes me so happy because it makes the lore of the character feel.. idk fucking great

This is gonna be awesome

[rigid plover]

You’re off by 8 years

[cobalt ivy]

ill mourn big head 🙏

[halcyon crest]

No…

[gusty cipher]

the blue haired girl was rly pretty but she doesnt fit an apocalypse world lol

[halcyon crest]

Big head woulda been hella funny but im glad it didnt win

[gusty cipher]

how do u look this hot in a decaying world where u are surviving

well

uhh

some dbd survivors exist ig

[rigid plover]

I like how you’re upset I used a term that I use in my work in the medical field but have no issue with him telling people to kill theirselves lol

[gusty cipher]

he would have been memed

[halcyon crest]

I didnt want her to win simply because we’ve gotten so many characters like her

[gusty cipher]

brotato MOVE ON

[halcyon crest]

Sable and then Vee

[gusty cipher]

i love vee

[ruby mist]

I’m so thankful blue hair lost

[halcyon crest]

I was happy to get anything else

[gusty cipher]

[halcyon crest]

I also like vee

Shes super cute

[bright sparrow]

It’s crazy cuz that’s not even what I said either 😭

[cobalt ivy]

fifteenth identical conventionally attractive white woman

or old woman

[ruby mist]

Wow you’re one in a million

[bright sparrow]

I just said I hope they suffer in life never said I wanted them to die lmao

[halcyon crest]

[gusty cipher]

make an outfit combo with the ponytail hair trust

she looks so pretty with it

[halcyon crest]

I know……

I dont have her yet

[gusty cipher]

broo

wyd

get her

[halcyon crest]

Dude im saving up for a feng skin

[gusty cipher]

ok fair

which one

[halcyon crest]

Ive never played one of the og characters

Uhhh

[gusty cipher]

i have so many min skins lol

[halcyon crest]

The short blue haired one with the keyboard on the back

[gusty cipher]

both min and vee are my mains

[halcyon crest]

Its my fav

[gusty cipher]

AY

tuff

i have almost all her skins except a few

[halcyon crest]

Money? Or grinding?

[gusty cipher]

both

[halcyon crest]

Damn

[gusty cipher]

mostly money 😭

[halcyon crest]

How many hours do you have?

[gusty cipher]

500, im still a baby

[halcyon crest]

Oh shiitt

I have 300

[gusty cipher]

dayum

i mean. we'll get there lol

[gusty cipher]

whus ur fav min skin

[bright sparrow]

I only just recently hit 1k last week

[ruby mist]

Collab only?

[halcyon crest]

Congrats!

[hoary crater]

Results have been revealed just now. Winners are Old Lady, Cloister Moodboard and blue flesh.

[gusty cipher]

similar with me i only play licensed killers mostly

chucky main here

[halcyon crest]

That one. Definitely.

[ruby mist]

I own every cosmetic

He’s my goat

[gusty cipher]

FUCK YESS

[gusty cipher]

nice

[halcyon crest]

Main Steve and Lara

[gusty cipher]

mines her down the rabbit hole outfit she looks so cute in it

[halcyon crest]

Eddie Munson will soon be in my grasp

[gusty cipher]

im tryna save for eddie

i need him

[halcyon crest]

Me too dude

[gusty cipher]

i have dustin at p6 i think

i play him coz its so funny how hes short in lobby but tall asf in game

[ruby mist]

I play literally every killer but my fav killers are unknown, chucky, demo, huntress, doctor and that’s basically it

[bright sparrow]

I still don’t know why we can’t kick chucky like victor

[gusty cipher]

chucky, xeno, springtrap (even though he sucks), kaneki, and dnd vecna

[gusty cipher]

hes a doll with the strength of a grown man

and he has a knife

[ruby mist]

He can get kicked but he wouldn’t be effected much I imagine

[halcyon crest]

I like trapper and pinhead

[gusty cipher]

hed get kicked and hed be like "YOU FUCKING PIECE OF SHIT IM GONNA RIP YOU TO FUCKING PIECES" and then get back to work

[ruby mist]

I’m going for everybody p10 I have 46/51 survivors p10 and 17/42 killers p10 with everybody else p3 and then Kate and Dwight p21

[ruby mist]

Lol

[gusty cipher]

i invested all my shit into min and vee lol

i have min at p90, almost there

and i have vee at p25

others i have at p5 or below

[ruby mist]

I immediately p3 every new person so I can have the perks

[cobalt ivy]

yeah he is a grown ass man

[gusty cipher]

true

[cobalt ivy]

he has a wife and kid

[gusty cipher]

which.. i still dont understand how he had a kid when hes a doll

but alr

[cobalt ivy]

there's a movie about it

[ruby mist]

Well he has blood and human insides

So I imagine it wouldn’t be impossible for him to do that lol

[gusty cipher]

true

maybe its not as complicated as i thought lol

[halcyon crest]

a hot wife

sorry.

[ruby mist]

No this is real asf don’t apologize

[halcyon crest]

thank you

[gusty cipher]

no this is real

i need to get her in game

shes tuff

[halcyon crest]

she iisss

i dont see her enough

[gusty cipher]

me neither

[halcyon crest]

well, time to go play some dbd

[marsh imp]

Ayo! I do the exact same! Sometimes it sucks having to save BP instead of spend it but it's worth it to have all perks as soon as new characters come out!

[ruby mist]

That’s sick dude!

You going for any prestige goals after that?

I’m a completionist so I go for all achievements all challenges and now prestige 10 for all the prestige rewards

Currently 46/51 survivors and 17/42 killers p10

[ruby mist]

🔥

[fleet vessel]

i don't actually like windows, it clutters my screen up too much

i definitely am better than i was, i found yui's perk good for pallets and knowing where chases were happening

but yeah hell i would use a map over using a perk slot on windows haha

it only came up with kate's adept and whenever it comes up in chaos

[ruby mist]

Alright that’s fair I don’t like it either

I just took my time

[fleet vessel]

i was INCREDIBLY surprised to find out its popular

yeah im pretty good with like, the permanent objects? like i know the layouts to all the buildings really well and the broad layouts to the maps, its mainly the variety of walls and stuff that can move around that i do sometimes struggle with

partially why i like the indoor ones more, they're easier to remember for me

otherwise its "theres usually a gen over here" and "the killers hut is in this direction"

i get there in the end

[fleet vessel]

that and i memorised the layout of the remake rpd half a decade ago that certainly helps

used to suck ass at stuns

im not like, fantastic now but i get them which is a hell of a lot better than i used to LMAO

blinding...lets not talk about blinding

it is a rare thing for me to blind killers although i dont really try

i also didnt know it was harder on console which makes a lot of sense

[marsh imp]

My goal right now is getting Lich to P100. He's almost at P90 now.

[ruby mist]

Nice

That’s awesome broh

[fleet vessel]

holy shit

i would like a p100 eventually but im focusing on p3 rn

only got like, 1 or 2 survs left (missing a few tho) and uh, most owned killers lol

[marsh imp]

I was fortunate in being part of the game before their Prestige rework, so I only had to make sure all available characters at the time were P1.

Then it was getting everyone to P4 to guarantee I had all the general perks on everyone. Since then I've just had to worry about getting new ones to P3.

[bright sparrow]

That’s what I’ve been doing. Trying to get all survivors and killers to p3 and then worry about a main/getting higher prestiges

I’ve been working on survivor mostly in order of the roster (with a few exceptions) and rn I’m on Ripley

figure it’s also better for future characters because then I have less perks to unlock through their thing as opposed to if I just prestige 1 on everyone

[marsh imp]

Goodnight everyone. 😴

[fleet vessel]

yeah! I try to get the characters i want to play less first just so i have more items for those i do

then i get annoyed for having no items for those i play (im tempted to manually do them all because the auto thing gives me shit) an di just p3 them anyways

i got them all to 1 first then 2 etc etc so if i did want to play them for adepts i could

[crimson mortar]

How do we feel about the grimoire results

[fickle scarab]

Im alright with t

Killer material reminds me of song of saya

[gusty cipher]

good

[crimson mortar]

All my votes won

[tepid timber]

Thank God we didn't got Sable 2.0 and got grandma instead, cool

[manic mortar]

Same here

[carmine estuary]

So glad no sable 2.0

[gusty cipher]

bro put her as the pfp lol

[manic mortar]

I've been put her up for a while during the vote. I have a different nickname in another server

[gusty cipher]

oh i see

[manic mortar]

I'll change it after I'm done tasting that sweet victory

[solemn yew]

Wishing the blue girl won but it is what it is

Honestly I wish they’d have just given us both old lady and the blue girl so everyone would be happy 💀

[gusty cipher]

i liked the blue girl too she was pretty

but it makes sense why grandma won

[gusty cipher]

this 💔

[fading lotus]

Kinda wish the boney material won. Wouldve looked more interesting

Its funny with the survivors though. They will add the new granny survivor and just like every single other survivor dlc im just gonna ignore and play Steve

[magic vortex]

CANNOT wait to see the perks

if there's not an invocation or a boon im gonna be so sad bc i feel like that would make sm sense for a religious character

[humble ice]

Exactly

[hallow prairie]

if they make an invocation it better be good at least

[thin aspen]

IM SO GLAS THE KILLER MATERIAL I WANTED WON

[atomic slate]

I really hope everyone voted for dash

[copper path]

I got 1/3 i wanted this vote

[muted estuary]

Who wants to play as a granny? There was one Irish survivor and now hes gone. I wont be buying the Hag

[hallow prairie]

i likely won't play her lol

wouldn't even get unless the perks are absolutely busted and meta defining because i really have to like something to spend 9k shards

[ruby mist]

Server tag is accurate

🥸

[fleet vessel]

There's no need to be a dick lol

Also "ginger" doesn't mean fucking Irish lmao

They're not from this world, you think all universes have Ireland?

[hallow prairie]

yes the fact that i don't want to pay a ludicrous amount of iri shards for the character i didn't vote for makes me a chud

[hallow prairie]

the post apocalyptic ireland

they better have beer

[muted estuary]

Im not being a dick about it. I said it at the beginning that theres no Irish in the game, unless you think Deathslinger is, which hes not.

[fleet vessel]

I would've been happy for either of the guys to win but thats no reason to put down the winner

[fleet vessel]

"There was one Irish survivor"

[muted estuary]

Well Ive already got the Hag, i dont need her again.

[muted estuary]

There was, now the only Irish that is left is an American with Irish parents

I wanna play as Tadhg O'Loughlin

[fleet vessel]

And you think that isn't being a dick lmao??

[fleet vessel]

Literally who

I don't think Deathslinger counts

[muted estuary]

Oh im being a dick to concept art

Youre right

[fleet vessel]

But that ginger guy in the grimoire was literally just ginger. he wasnt irish

[fleet vessel]

No but to all who voted

Who will play her

[muted estuary]

They better bring slippery meat

[fleet vessel]

Lmaooo salty isn't a good look on you

I'm Irish so it's not like I have anything against having an Irish survivor but it's a bold claim to say that the ginger concept art was representation lol

[muted estuary]

The Hag could be Irish too, yet we have no background. Its very likely though that the ginger comes from Ireland, or one of the celtic isles

[fleet vessel]

....But he's not of this world

Besides you get gingers outside of it

I've spent my whole life in Scotland and it's not like every 2nd person is ginger

Hell he could've been English lmao

I love celtic culture and language and everything but that doesn't mean that bvhr would've given them the representation we deserve

Taurie is celtic and yet she doesn't have a celtic va.

Besides I would love some love for the other Celts

Brezhoneg, Kernowek & Manx

Welsh too but. I am Welsh

[gaunt dawn]

I do

[muted estuary]

https://tenor.com/view/whine-give-up-pout-frustrated-gif-5313242348381105216

[echo folio]

A lot of us wanted to play her. We didn't want the blue haired woman for one reason or another and leave it there

[muted estuary]

I dont think many want to play as the Hag a second time. She'll only be used for her perks

Id have preferred the blue haired one of the Hag. Irish fella first obviously

There cant be that many older women in the playerbase

[echo folio]

I know that's not true for many of us but I can see your point some people only get the new dlc for perks and keep using their mains, nothing wrong with that

[muted estuary]

But i would have mained an Irish guy. Im an Ace main now because hes so out of touch with the rest of the crew

I bet alot of other Irish people would have too. Now we just have an old woman, for the lolz, with no representation behind it

[gaunt dawn]

Why not?

[echo folio]

As would I have if he won but I cannot bring the red haired survivor back, I can only hope the chapter will be great with the choices we make along the way

[muted estuary]

Cuz shes an elderly woman. How much of the playerbase is going to feel represented by that?

[echo folio]

The longer the game goes on, more relatable

[gaunt dawn]

Its about variety. Its unlikely we will ever get an old woman ever again

So its nice we have one

[muted estuary]

Is Laurie transparent or something?

[gaunt dawn]

How old do you think Laurie is?

[echo folio]

Isn't the Laurie we have the young one?

Not The new Halloween trilogy elder Laurie

[gaunt dawn]

I dont know how to break this to you hickster but we are getting old. Better start embracing that

[muted estuary]

Theres already a couple of oldies in it. Most of the male characters have some grey hairs like.

[gaunt dawn]

I can only assume 1991 is your birth year

[muted estuary]

Nope

[gaunt dawn]

What's special about 1991 then?

[muted estuary]

Plus, theres already a few old characters

[gaunt dawn]

None of them are women

[muted estuary]

Some women, no Irish

[gaunt dawn]

And I think geralt isn't old isn't he just albino?

Who's the old women?

[muted estuary]

Elodie is older

[gaunt dawn]

Elodies isn't old

[muted estuary]

Im sure the reporter survivor is older again

Zair or something

[gaunt dawn]

Not a single person in the game is over 40 aside from maybe ash or bill

The oldest survivors are all men the oldest woman is in her 30s at best

You are probably thinking of haddie and that tome archive is debatable

[muted estuary]

Yeah ill be giving it a skip anyway, very disappointed in the survivor

[gaunt dawn]

Well you'll be happy to hear we are getting a solo survivor chapter in just a month or two

With a new realm

[surreal echo]

So excited for granny survivor. Honestly gonna go back to playing survivor just to play her and get her p100

[hexed geyser]

at least we don't get another sable v2

i'm happy abt that

[vague crater]

Ace and Vittorio

Ace is minimum 60 but more likely 80

And then vittorio is definitely over 40 but he has magic so it doesn’t really count

Also aestri but for an elf she might as well be 20

Male survivors have an age range of like 18-80+
Women have 18-40 if you really push for Jane and yun Jin but even then neither of those make much sense

Cause that would mean trickster is also around that age since she met trickster “a few years after” she was 17

But yeah granny sweep

Glad we got our first actual old lady

[vague crater]

Original survivors anyway
Pretty sure michonne or however you spell it is over 40
But that’s only in later parts and idfk when she was taken so

[gaunt dawn]

What. Ace 60????

[vague crater]

At a minimum
He was born in the 1930s and was taken between 1990s and 2010s

[copper path]

I want another survivor that isnt a good person

And i want a survivor that isnt human

[vague crater]

Wait for the second dnd chapter

[unique notch]

baldur's gate dnd chapter would go crazy

[fickle scarab]

Tapp is

[unique notch]

I lowkey thought that one felix devil skin is rafael from bg3 already

[fickle scarab]

Tapp is in his 50s

[unique notch]

well yaestri is a elf

I dont really think a non humanoid surv gonna work

[fickle scarab]

Sarevok killer would be amazing

That doesnt count

[unique notch]

imagine ketheric thorm skin for knight

[fickle scarab]

Again though Tapp is in his 50s

[fickle scarab]

Actually Sarevok would make more sense as a knight skin because he uses a two banded sword now that I think about it

Thorm doesnt use a two handed sword iirc.

[unique notch]

oh right ketheric had the warhammer

[copper path]

Android survivor

[fickle scarab]

theyd have to be able to bleed tho

[trim walrus]

Oil

[fickle scarab]

That would require changing the color of blood

[muted estuary]

Hello oldie lovers

[copper path]

They can. Alot of games and movies use fake blood to sell off they are human

[hallow prairie]

V1 ultrakill

[fleet vessel]

the things i would do if they added even one tiefling

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androids bleed with thirum in detroit

but then again fucking blue blood is really obvious

[fleet vessel]

yeah he's fuckin ripped so it doesn't even seem like hes old

[vague crater]

big ahh hammer

[hallow prairie]

god forbid an older person doesn't look like a fkn raisin

[vague crater]

and a shield im pretty sure

[fleet vessel]

Yeah Jane dresses like shes older but she doesn't look older than 40

Idk WHERE the idea of Yun-Jin being over 40 came from she doesn't look like she is at all

[vague crater]

I would kill for a dragonborn survivor if dnd gets another chapter

[hallow prairie]

d&d better get another chapter

[fleet vessel]

no i like how he's buff but i also like how Bill and Ash have a bit more softness to their bodies

[vague crater]

I might of been misinformed about that tbf
i feel like people just thought it cause she looks kinda old in her default cosmetic with the white hair

[hallow prairie]

ash doesn't even look that bad for a guy in his 60s

[fleet vessel]

PLEASE

skins that make them look like the different types

[vague crater]

Id kill for an alhoon skin for the real vecna

or just a mind flayer as a killer
but i feel like an alhoon skin would work

[hallow prairie]

that just looks like a weird mindflayer

[vague crater]

it is

[fleet vessel]

I fully thought her white hair was dyed

Also Korea is really into plastic surgery but Yun-Jin doesn't look like shes had it

Tbh I think she looks older than she is because of all the murrders that keep her up at night

Like Haddie looks old to me but I know that's because she looks like she has never slept before in her ENTIRE life

[vague crater]

its just if it was to be a vecna skin it would need to be an alhoon

which is just a mind flayer that got banished from the elder brains connection because it learned arcane magic rather than psionics

[fleet vessel]

yeah he looks great!!

[vague crater]

and vecna uses arcane magic

[fleet vessel]

i love ash hes so funny i love his old man wheezing

[vague crater]

so it wouldnt make sense for a regular mindflayer to be a skin for him

but an alhoon would

[hallow prairie]

tbh the only reason i don't use him that much is because i ran out of cakes on him lmao

[fleet vessel]

so real. guess you have to just use his own

[hallow prairie]

the series was a fun watch i got him because of it

[vague crater]

kinda crazy how we got a dnd chapter and got zero non human (or elf since they are literally just humans with pointed ears) survivor

[hallow prairie]

and both survivors are ugly as shit too

[vague crater]

obviously we couldnt of gotten a dwarf or-

WOAH

WOAH WOAH WOAH

AESTRI IS GOATED

TAKE THAT BACK

[hallow prairie]

i deadass thought aestri was a weird twink

[fleet vessel]

strahd skin for dracula when

[fleet vessel]

woah woah woah

[vague crater]

would be too peak

but just going off the players handbook

[fleet vessel]

are you dissing my wife and my other wife

[hallow prairie]

i think they gave her the male template and rig for some reason

[fleet vessel]

they had to yeah shes tall

and shes hot

its so they can share cosmetics

[hallow prairie]

uhh to each their own ig 😭

[vague crater]

we could of gotten (excluding small races since they would obviously not be allowed since they would be half the size of a regular survivor)

• dragonborn
• half orc
• tiefling

And including other books would give us so many more

[hallow prairie]

she looks uncanny to me

[hallow prairie]

warforged survivor when

bugbear even

[vague crater]

just say you dont like bad bitches

[fleet vessel]

strahd CAN canonically turn into a swarm of bats and a wolf. well a werewolf but close enough.

[hallow prairie]

ok this might be a case of a character being carried by fan art lmao

[fleet vessel]

https://tenor.com/view/spongebob-worship-worshipping-now-bowing-gif-12297363

[hallow prairie]

the guy isn't redeemable tho

[vague crater]

his masquerade outfit if you use the darker hair is kinda peak

hold on

[hallow prairie]

lets take a look... 👀

[vague crater]

it gives him a beard

so he looks better

[hallow prairie]

ok he may look better with a beard but i want to see

[vague crater]

waiting for dbd to open hold on

[fleet vessel]

YEAH

i imagine a dark elf would've been too...dark... for the game but we could've had githyanki or an aasimar

[fleet vessel]

baermar is trying his best

[hallow prairie]

um what

[vague crater]

even just a tiefling

[vague crater]

drow

dark elf

[hallow prairie]

why wouldn't they add a drow

[vague crater]

https://tenor.com/view/minthara-minthara-bg3-minthy-minthy-bg3-bg3-gif-8080327748630034918

[fleet vessel]

I'm kissing every tiefling i see ever they are so beautiful

[vague crater]

cause lore wise their skin is extremely dark grey

so it would be a bit of an advantage

[static cove]

Bravo Six, going dark

[hallow prairie]

erm

[fleet vessel]

dbd doesnt want cosmetics that are too dark and that give an advantage to survs

most drow would be fine tho

[hallow prairie]

there are black outfits for certain survivors

[fleet vessel]

god i wanna play more dnd now

[vague crater]

yeah that always have some part not black

[fleet vessel]

yeah ik i never said they were consistent

[hallow prairie]

drow also tend to have lighter hair

[fleet vessel]

true

[hallow prairie]

and there's nothing preventing them from giving a drow lighter clothes too

tieflings are overrated

[vague crater]

not the best screenshot but there

[fleet vessel]

regardless. more dnd

[fleet vessel]

WHAT

[vague crater]

aestri is still better but the masquerade torso definitely helps him

[fleet vessel]

theyre so hot though

[hallow prairie]

ok he looks better with a beard

[fleet vessel]

yeah that fruit needs more cosmetics

[hallow prairie]

i fw the mustache

[vague crater]

dont know ball

smh

[fleet vessel]

idk why they made Baermar a human ngl

[hallow prairie]

overrated doesn't mean bad

[vague crater]

he should of been like

uhhh

[hallow prairie]

tiefling

dragonborn even

[vague crater]

honestly just a half elf would of been neat

[hallow prairie]

his name is dragonborn coded lowk

[vague crater]

he could of been a half elf and aestri could of been something more dndish

like a monstrous species

dragonborn bard fr

honestly they should of made it so none of the cosmetics are for just two people

and every torso is another character

[fleet vessel]

yeah if they wanted to make sure they could still use the same hairstlyes and shit then an aasimar or a half elf would've worked

[vague crater]

or even just legendary skins

cause they are called "the troupe" but then are just two mfs

[hallow prairie]

they should have made them different fucking characters like legion

[fleet vessel]

or just not have been cowards and given that man horns

[vague crater]

even though im pretty sure there was more than just the two of them in their lore

[static cove]

Trope?

[fleet vessel]

help omg

[vague crater]

GIVE ME MY DRAGONBORN BARD BHVR YOU COWARDS

[hallow prairie]

why can they do it with their ocs but not an actual license hello

[fleet vessel]

this is true

[vague crater]

they literally work the exact same as legion-?

[fleet vessel]

i do like tall buff woman

[vague crater]

theres just

two of them

rather than four

[fleet vessel]

i think they mean more difference

[vague crater]

well its that they share cosmetics

[hallow prairie]

i think legion have different models

[vague crater]

they share legs and hair

if they changed the models they would need to make two models for every leg cosmetic and hair cosmetic

[sweet lava]

Did the old lady win

[fleet vessel]

julie/susie + frank/joey do yeah

[fleet vessel]

yes

[sweet lava]

Oh for fucks sake

[hallow prairie]

yea that

[vague crater]

so they would get like zero cosmetics

or if they did only one half of them would

like the legion

susie gets the most cosmetics

not that she shouldnt shes the best one

[hallow prairie]

poor frank i like him more

[fleet vessel]

SIGHING dramatically time to bring out my dnd books

[vague crater]

but yeah a dragonborn bard would of been neat

[fleet vessel]

fun fact i fucking hate bards in dnd but i love the troupe

they are the ONLY permissible bards to me

[vague crater]

even just
making baermar more of a twink and giving him the female skeleton and then making aestri a dragonborn and giving her a male skeleton so that shes taller

boom

ggez

and also opens the door for other shorter men and taller women

[fleet vessel]

twink baermar and buff aestri would've been INSANE A

[vague crater]

like dustin and robin which they still havent fixed

[fleet vessel]

tbh im surprised orela wasnt made taller

[vague crater]

boom
ez

[fleet vessel]

like i know she's post-surgery but that can't take height off lmao

[vague crater]

she could of just been shorter beforehand

but yeah its just cause they didnt think about it

[fleet vessel]

true, but i would like to see represention for queer people that doesn't just mean easy passing

[vague crater]

or the entity is just really progressive and shrunk her to fit with the other women