ptb-discussion

[vagrant tundra]

Trickster is lowk still shit but now he’s 110

Did you check mail icon

[wary wave]

[lethal remnant]

When will the ptb end

[raven flume]

You can only access the PTB on Steam

[raven flume]

Not sure exactly but you’ll have to wait until at least 2v8 is over

[silent crest]

Oh god, yes. They are just removing FUNDAMENTALS bruh. I don't really care about sky Wesker although it was fun. But rebounds being removed or broken is just terrible. Also hope this doesn't go live. It's just sad.

[burnt harbor]

thanks i feel stupid

[burnt harbor]

i hate playing against him tbh

like i enjoy huntress or springtrap or whatever but trickster is just so boring to play against

like with huntress its fun to dodge her hatchets, with trickster you just get spammed

if you have a good loop with cover hes useless but sometimes you dont yk

[hazy kraken]

Devs are survivor mains, they'd rather buff the strongest perks of new survivor than keep those wesker changes out of live

[gleaming hornet]

community would make bhvr to revert it since its incredibly ruining for the weskey

[hazy kraken]

And ik ppl call new map surv sided but... perhaps I didn't notice it much cuz I main chuck?

Also why queues are suddenly so long?

[silent crest]

I do get it but... I mean I have been a survivor main myself for years but it doesn't change a thing. Started playing killers cause Wesker is interesting to master lol. But anyway these changes don't make any sense. Especially when you know there are Blight and Nurse who are definitely stronger then Wesker and haven't been nerfed for ages. And also Kaneki with his free hit (especially frustrating when it happens through textures, which devs don't care about). Nobody asked for such a freaking unnecessary nerf of Wesker - it was fun and interesting to play both as and aganst him. Press F to Wesker if that comes to live lol. Gonna switch to Blight or just gonna play survivor. So sad tbh

[hazy kraken]

Ghoul being nerfed every patch, Chucky's already nerfed to oblivion

And Chucky's release once made me return to game after years

Devs don't care. They see someone obliterating them at loops, they nerf them

[silent crest]

Meh. Devs are nerfing unnecessary stuff. Would rather have them concerned about actual bugs and issues. I mean Xeno mains once could revert the changes. Maybe Wesker mains will be able too :c

[winged stream]

I would say its only good for stealth killers for this map since you won't see them coming until around the corner

thats why I used stealth trickster build on new map since he awful in new map and it worked well

[vagrant tundra]

Generally if you get in close range against Trickster you’re generally cooked, but to counter this your best move against him is just to hold W. More than any other killer. His knives deal one sixth of a damage state each and that sixth lasts ten seconds if he can’t hit another. Because he's 4.4 m/s and he slows down when aiming his knives, you should prioritize making distance rather than looping.

[burnt harbor]

yeah i know

[vagrant tundra]

Run through pallets.

[burnt harbor]

i just dont find it very engaging to play against

[vagrant tundra]

It is what it is.

Nurse's counter is trying to blind her while she's charging to make her fuck up. Lightborn Nurse just is a demon.

[burnt harbor]

with a good nurse player you're really just fucked, she totally changes the dynamic of the game

[vagrant tundra]

I have no idea why Trickster has a lullaby and Nurse doesnt. Nurse shouldn’t be able to go completely undetectable.

Trickster doesnt need a lullaby 😭

[celest eagle]

I’m not a great Wesker player, but I really enjoy playing him. Using some of his techs to win games feels really fun and highly rewarding.

I understand fixing bugs（especially sometimes already catched the surviver without damage), but completely removing his tech just feels unnecessary. He’s not even that strong — those techs were part of what made him fun.

I just don’t really understand why they all had to be removed.

[silent crest]

Exactly... I just hope that dbd community and content creators will revert all these sad changes :c

[celest eagle]

Strongly agree

[vagrant tundra]

Kaneki is weird on the new map. Is it just me or do the top halves of the buildings just not connect with his leap crosshair?

New map was fun with Springtrap and small enough that non-movement killers arent found dead in a ditch. I’ll try Singularity soon.

[quiet geyser]

That shit makes no sense fr. Like ghoul is getting nerfed again and again. Why are they trying to kill the killer? How are console player supposed to play with ghoul now?

The only good thing about this ptb is the simple explanation of perks and customizable auras that's it.

[fathom bane]

They can use mouse and keyboard.... and for a good ghoul player that isn't a nerf lmao

Its a huge nerf to baby ghouls/ bad ghoul players

[quiet geyser]

Not everyone is used to playing with kbm and most people won't change their playstyle because of a single killer. It's not an excuse to nerfing the killer every update.

[fathom bane]

Even without KBM, its still not a "nerf"

well, to bad ghoul players and baby ghouls it is a substantial one

but to those who actually know how to use his ability to fling onto survivors

it is a very good buff

[terse nest]

Have you guys heard all the Korean people complaining about the signs in the new map ? Apparently the font is dull and the word choice is awkward.

If that's true I'm glad I don't understand Korean lol

[winged stream]

played between normal trickster public and updated trickster, I kinda prefer his new rank just keep his speed or his knives back to 44

[brittle jacinth]

How good is the new survivors perks

[quiet geyser]

Let's see how good the buff is in live.

[terse nest]

Good, good, and great

[fallow palm]

It's VERY unlikely, but I pray the devs make a Prestige icon for OG Nemesis.
I don't like the remake ☹️

[jagged fractal]

Doesn't flashlighting Nurse also make her unable to blink?

[vagrant tundra]

No just not able to use it any properly

[jagged fractal]

Huh. I thought it made her unable to even charge it.

[hidden bronze]

It used to but not anymore

[terse nest]

Still confused why bhvr removed that

"You know what this game needs? A nurse buff"

[hidden bronze]

it was pretty easy to abuse

[terse nest]

"Lets remove a fun mechanic"

[hidden bronze]

and I don’t think they’d want a killer to just be countered by an item

[hidden bronze]

They do this a lot

[jagged fractal]

Bruh I doubt most people even knew that.

[hidden bronze]

I think it was getting more popular at the time cuz of content creators and more content creators were covering the comp side of dbd too

[terse nest]

Crazy how Trickster is 4.4 but Blight is 4.6

[hidden bronze]

it’s like the devs law that every ranged killer has to be 4.4 or smth

[terse nest]

I think the devs don't actually want to balance the game. They want some killers to be over/underpowered

[hazy kraken]

Also am I the only one who has camera moving differently on new map during mori? It's like getting to the left and back

[solar atlas]

I cant believe what they did to wesker this PTB bro💔 i might actually delete the game atp

[hidden bronze]

Yeah I think the idea is to probably satisfy everyone’s little niche

if u had all the killers have really good kits that would be pretty bad

[hazy kraken]

To satisfy survs they represent id say

[terse nest]

We need every killer to have a decent kit

And none with a really good kit

It should be B- tier to A+ tier only

No S no C

I guess trapper is hard to buff

[hidden bronze]

Idk how they could do that without making the game boring

[hazy kraken]

For it chuck needs his old scamper back

[terse nest]

I don't think it would make the game boring

Killers still have high skill ceilings

[hidden bronze]

They nerfed most pallets right on mac coldwind

[terse nest]

A really good Wesker or Oni can demolish most teams

But a really good Blight can win every game no matter what

[hidden bronze]

Yeah but then ur balancing for the minority in the game if u balance for the top 1% of the killer players instead of the casual ppl

most ppl r pretty bad

[terse nest]

true

But still I think Blight should be 4.4

[hidden bronze]

i think blight is balanced for the top 1%

fun to vs and you can last like a minute if u have good rng vs him

But a good blight vs avg players will always win

[terse nest]

Maybe they should nerf pig

[hidden bronze]

they gotta nerf the new dude

[terse nest]

yeah he's too slippery with all that oil on him

[rustic solstice]

skill issue im afraid

[odd bison]

koreans guy perks sound too good i dont like them
same for lee yun jins reworked ones

[misty yew]

So, am I crazy or did trickster get worse? I've been playing on the ptb and he just feels worse.

[slate garnet]

i am in ptb and why do i have 0 add ons and items same for offerings and when i buy a charecter it gets p100 on the screen but says its lv1

[hidden bronze]

ig idk it’s kinda fun being able to just spam it mindlessly tho free brainless 4ks

[rustic solstice]

he is worse imo

[slate garnet]

why in ptb do i not have 99 items or add ons on survivors and killers ?

[hard idol]

well every presitge resets the level to one

[ripe bison]

I think its bugged.

I dont have a ton of every addon on every killer either. Only a selection of them

[random flicker]

4.4 and less knives feel like the main culprit

[ripe bison]

Trickster mains online seem to be complaining about the 4.4 mainly

and the slowdown while throwing

[ripe bison]

Are the dark mist offering smore effective in the ptb?

[balmy hearth]

think the PTB is glitching bc kates, quentins, and detective tapps p100 badges r all swapped

[ripe bison]

Lol

Yeah Ive zeen that brought up before

[balmy hearth]

kate has quentins p100 badge, tapp has kates, and quentin has tapps

[ripe bison]

Im sure thst will be fixed at live

[balmy hearth]

hopefully not its funny 🤣😭

imagine getting quentin to p100 just to unlock tapps badge 😭

it feels targeted aswell bc quentin and tapp r like 2 of the least used survivors

[stiff field]

Bruh what did they do to my man wesker

[buoyant scaffold]

RIGHT!?!?!?

[hard idol]

ego talking 100%

no way somone actually believes hes broken

[cursive plume]

survivor players being survivor players (I say this as someone who usually plays survivor)…

[hard idol]

theres a difference between playing survivor and being a entitled bitch that cant handle doing dogshit against a MAYBE B- killer and thats giving him extra credit

[cursive plume]

GENUINELY

Ts is why I despise being labeled as a survivor players as I’m more of both but genuinely both sides have the people who complain about the other role with that stupid “us vs them” mentality that makes me want to tie a noose

like why can’t we just be nice to eachother… or maybe try playing the other side to realize the thing that’s “broken” isn’t actually broken it’s just a skill issue..

[dry egret]

B tier is stretching it

[cursive plume]

real shit

meanwhile nurse has yet to be touched 😃

Back to the “us vs them” mentality thing, I want to mention recently there’s been two instances where one side has a bug/issue that they complain about and then it gets fixed and then the other side complains

Killer was the nurse glitch teleport bug thing that got fixed within 1 week and survivors were upset
Survivors was the TBTC + that one brown wraith addon that they complained about and BHVR rewrote the entire perk/addon system just to shadow nerf it to appease them within 3 weeks

like both sides have their moments of BHVR catering to them and yet they still act like they’re starved in comparison to the opposite side..

[hard idol]

thats why i said, "and thats giving him extra credit"

[dry egret]

The perk/addon rework was in the works for a while and accompanied no balance changes, for instance Spirit Fury wasn’t actually nerfed

[hard idol]

it just so happens, that 90% of the fuck wads are survivor players

[dry egret]

Mb for the confusion. Your stretch is stretching it

[hard idol]

lol it sure as fuck is

another reason, why HES NOT OP

[cursive plume]

did the turn back the clock wraith combo not get nerfed via that though? Since the addon only procs on default gen kicks not perks?

[hard idol]

pretty sure it was hard nerfed sadly

[dry egret]

Spirit Fury is stated to only proc on basic-breaks but it has not been changed and still works on special-breaks. I have not tested TBTC and Soot so I can’t speak to that in particular but nothing should be changed unless it was stated to in. The patch notes

[raven flume]

You know what would be a fun trend

[cinder tinsel]

Make trickster 115% again and give him a few more knives is all I want.

Oh and maybe buff some add ons too I hate to see that there are gonna be add ons that do nothing at all and will never be used.

[dry egret]

He has an addon that makes him 1% faster when throwing and another one that makes his knives to 2 lacerations if he is 32 METERS AWAY

https://tenor.com/view/say-that-again-gif-968943876633031890

[cinder tinsel]

So just two good add ons?…

There are a few add ons that make 0 sense for the record caged heart shoes gives you a whopping 1% increase in movement speed while holding knives 😂

[dry egret]

Yeah 1% NOTHING. The new Edge of Revival Album is completely useless, if you actually get the 32 meter hit you are 110% and the 2 lacerations will have decayed by the time you can hit another

[cinder tinsel]

Yup. Idk this patch felt like a nerf for him. Skill shmill buff the guy already 😂 like pyramid head is right there laughing at the poor guy. (Blight too but hey he’s “over tuned”)

[misty yew]

Them Making trickster worse when they tried buffing him twice is genuinely funny to me. I don't know what it is recently but they confuse buffs with nerfs when doing These types of changes. Like when they tried changing Xenos flame resistance.

[buoyant scaffold]

I like to combine it with Agitation, bc it can total a 20% speed bonus when carrying a survivor

[elder marlin]

his kit change (style etc) I've learned to work with, the addons? yeah the addons need work

[wanton coral]

they absolutely nuked trickster

[misty yew]

I think the idea was to make his add-ons more gimmicky and "fun" to compensate for his new strength. Lucky blade being the best example.

Which on paper I don't hate, but he's not strong enough to really justify that design philosophy. Use that on blight, or nurse or something.

[elder marlin]

agreed. the crosshair addon also feels like it's just taking up a slot that could be used for something else

most monitors have a cross hair option

[misty yew]

And them removing the main event activation when near a hook bugs me. Like I get why twins has it and even artist to a lesser degree, but trickster?

[cinder tinsel]

Caged heart shoes only applies while holding knives

[haughty nexus]

Trickster needs to be 4.6 again 😭

[buoyant scaffold]

Ah mb, I was thinking of another addon

[austere girder]

This is gonna sound stupid but what does ptb stand for

[stiff wolf]

public test build

[south patio]

this fucking sucks why is trickster so slow now he cant even catch up to hit blades

and why am i so heavily punished for using my ability at all ever

[signal leaf]

Survivors rage quit enough for the random trickster nerf

[past drift]

why can i use cenobite in the ptb but not myers

[ripe bison]

So um

Ya know how they said that the new map was set in place with no RNG?

That isn't the case. There is actual tile rng

Its most noticable if youre playing Trapper cause there is a pallet tile that can generate on top of one of his trap spawn locations

technically the grander scheme of the map is set in stone, but there is still noticable rng to junk tile placement

I making a bug report about this issue with the trap when it hit me that there is more RNG on this map than they seemed to imply.

[vapid oasis]

The new map is gonna be crazy for stealth killer mains.

[stiff wolf]

I've had purple scratch marks for a long ass time but holy they're almost invisible on this map, might have to change them

[foggy badger]

there should be a "Recommended" color option you can pick, that just picks the scratch mark color automatically based on the map

like the color that would contrast the most from whatever map youre on

[stiff wolf]

true, or atleast be able to select a scratch mark colour for each map

[foggy badger]

thatd be nice but also tedious

[ripe bison]

Theyre perfectly visible onthis map for me

Its more the purple auras from the aura customization that is impossible to see

[stiff wolf]

yeah it's visible for the most part but some areas have pure purple lighting thats why

[ripe bison]

Funniest thing to come out of this map is how reshade cheating doesnt work on it

[stiff wolf]

why not

[ripe bison]

The colors emphasized make the entire screen fucked up

[misty yew]

If we're being realistic, what do y'all think will change from the ptb to live when it comes to trickster?

[ripe bison]

they will probably revert his movement speed back to 4.6 at the very least

thats universally what has been criticized

[misty yew]

I'm just hoping his add-ons get adjusted because a lot of them seem useless.

[toxic obsidian]

Yeah I hope Trickster goes back to 4.6. At 4.4 he's back to just being a Bad Huntress, especially with how gaps constantly get closed off in random patches.

[ripe bison]

maybe he should stay 4.4 so other players can know what its like to SUFFER

[toxic obsidian]

Really I'm not even sure what the rework aims to do besides bring the Combo system to the forefront for... minor buffs. Everything else just feels like going back to Launch Trickster or in some situations, weaker than Launch.

[stiff wolf]

I really hope the wesker changes don't make it to live

[ripe bison]

Its not a rework its an update

From my understanding the idea is that he now by design actively rewards the player for being good at him as opposed to just spamming. It's working off of elements of his old kit but its not really just bringing that back.

[toxic obsidian]

Spamming has always been what sets Trickster apart though, weird as it is to say.

I don't know, it feels like the PTB brings Trickster's flavor up to modern standards (combo system, new animations, new voicelines, chase music variants, etc.) but the gameplay is probably going to need a few updates to smooth it out.

[dapper saffron]

Would prefer they tie it to the rank ups

Below c -> 4.4
C and higher -> 4.6
S tier -> 4.8

[buoyant scaffold]

yes

[quiet iron]

whoever thought of a shack with rounded corners needs a raise

why haven't they done this sooner. it's so good.

[languid light]

I also want to praise the design it's going to shake things up

[ripe bison]

wouldnt that just create the springtrap problem of inconsistency

also 4.8 at S tier is absolutely absurd

once you get to S tier you stay at S tier until you use main event

[dapper saffron]

No?????

[west turret]

Lwky did NOT fix any of trickster problems but hey now we can be stylish

[dapper saffron]

It’s on a timer, and unlike the other tiers it doesn’t pause while carrying

Also krasue is 4.8 in head form and his tr at s tier is 44 meters

I dont think it would be outrageous to give it to him

[dapper saffron]

He is weaker but now he sounds like a slot machine and does bat tricks so it’s an acceptable tradeoff

[ripe bison]

Every trickster main seems to think hes a home run now outside of movement speed

And his addons

[west turret]

Lwky a nerf but now we can pretend trickster

[dapper saffron]

Have u tried him

[ripe bison]

Not particulsrly

[dapper saffron]

Maybe i’m bias because new map is rlly awful for him but he did not feel great

[ripe bison]

New map is weird for him for him what I experienced as survivor

Theres allyways that are death zones against him and then theres the interiors of the building and the junk tiles

Didnt they say in the stream that the map was made with him in mind?

Or is my memory being off again

[dapper saffron]

I guess they dont like him 😭

Although tbf i think a big city map like this is just always gonna be rough for him

[ripe bison]

Map is awesome outside of some building loops being too stupid though

[dapper saffron]

Needs tweaks but overall it’s not bad yeah

And it’s gorgeous, easily the best map visually

[ripe bison]

The market and park area should reallt have had more deadzone

[dapper saffron]

I dont like the funky shape they gave shack

And yeah market is insufferable

Also mosh pit is rlly awful if ur playing someone who can’t hit over it

[south patio]

wtf does trickster do vs a quad gen rush squad

[ripe bison]

I hate the hard square loop in the market

[south patio]

hes too slow to have any pressure now

[ripe bison]

4.4 is bad yes

[south patio]

perfect accuracy and it takes one god pallete to remove all blade progress

[cold sandal]

So hows the new map? Im on console so i cant test it

[haughty nexus]

It’s beautiful and really detailed. It is a bit on the survivor side tho, having multiple god-pallets that connect to each other AND connect to shack. But I’m sure there will be some changes before it comes to live servers

[cold sandal]

I mean we do need a few survivor sided ones. A lot of the maps lately have been more on the killer’s side.

[haughty nexus]

Yeah I agree, but this map is just a bit too much in the survivors favor. If you’re a 4.4 killer (LIKE TRICKSTER FOR SOME REASON) you’re cooked lmao

As well as ranged killers, ranged killers are 4.4 anyways lol

[cold sandal]

I mean it is meant to be his own personal hell so i guess that tracks 😂

[haughty nexus]

Truuue haha

It just needs some tiny adjustments, doesn’t need to be gutted

[burnt harbor]

when does the ptb end?

[ripe bison]

two or three days

[elder marlin]

I find it lowkey funny that the new trickster map, isn't the most trickster friendly

funny as in "why?!"

[elder marlin]

it's just too much ground to make up for killers that aren't teleport-like or speed demons

[cobalt fog]

was about to try out more stealth oriented killers til i noticed i have no add-ons on em while other killers have 99 of every add-on
is this intended? 😭

like by exemple legion has 99 of each, clown and trickster do too
but pig, demogorgon, singularity and dracula dont

oh and i guess this applies to survivors too
dwight has 99 of everything aswell as nea and david
but kwon, feng and kate dont

[south gale]

Why is ptb pc only?

[autumn creek]

Its nearly impossible for them to do crossplat PTBs, so they never tried

[limber tiger]

Its been steam only cause thats how they've always done it and find its easiest for them to do it that way

[south gale]

Boooo I play console

[ripe bison]

Its impossible for them to do it on console. Also steam is the native platform for the game.

[dapper saffron]

Open ptb up to console please so maybe queues will be under 15 mins

Queues r pretty good this ptb tbh but i am gluttonous and want more

[ripe bison]

They were pretty good because there wasnt a new killer

Every time theres a new killer, que times for killer are longer and survivors often instsntly disconnect upon seeing a killer thst isnt the new one.

Hell people still did this against me in this PTB sometimes (mostly streamers) because I wasnt playing trickster

I honestly think que times would be worse if console player could participait

Not being able to talk about stuff in postgame chat as regularly would suck ass too

[rustic geyser]

what did they do to my boy wesker 😔

[dapper saffron]

Sent to c tier dungeon

[austere wren]

they made him untuck

[misty yew]

Might just be me but I'm noticing very poor 3 gen potential on the new map, so that's fun.

[languid light]

That's a wonderful change

[misty yew]

I think there was 1 I saw that was kinda decent involving the main building and the streets, but if you don't roll that, kinda screwed if the game gets that far.

[celest hare]

It's a fucking nightmare

[silver dew]

Yo I had a bug in chucky on the ptb how do I report it again ??

[ripe bison]

https://app.betahub.io/projects/pr-5642738318

[tardy hatch]

if fast tracks makes it past ptb like this killers are cooked

[misty yew]

Stuff like the fast track rework makes me think the guys in charge of designing the killer perks and the survivor perks aren't allowed to test them and it's handed off to someone who's scared to give criticism to play test for a couple bot matches. I know that's not what happens but thats what it feels like at times.

[polar kayak]

fast track? tbh idk if it needed this change?

[autumn mirage]

since PTB release i was calling how this perk change will make stakeout + hyperfocus even more OP if you add this perk 😭

God what an stupid change of a perk

[polar kayak]

6% usage?

[autumn mirage]

the perk now on PTB 3 tokens per survivor hook which each token gives 2% permanent repair on the gen you are repairing if you hit a great skill check and you can carry a maximun of 9 tokens

if you use 9 tokens you can gain more tokens for next hook

[polar kayak]

plus the brandnew parts 10% progress and invo weeping its crazy you're basically no mither for the rest of the game with infinite UB

[autumn mirage]

not only it directly worsen the gen rush issue but also makes gen regression perks because now the % its lower

[autumn mirage]

i still think invo weeping its NOT worth running but running this perk + hyperfocus + brand new parts + stakeout will make gen rushing HELL

[polar kayak]

true

[autumn mirage]

who tf thought that giving survivors 6% permanent repair on gens every time a killer gets a hook is good idea

if 3 people are on a gen with the perk and killer hooks the fourth

[polar kayak]

Deja vu is better for that 6%

[autumn mirage]

the survivors can get 18% permanent repair

[polar kayak]

no risk

[autumn mirage]

if all 3 hit a great skill check, this is some heavy BS

[autumn mirage]

no risk and no counterplay from the killer besides slugging

[polar kayak]

true

[autumn mirage]

and you can break the 3 gen early in game

[polar kayak]

oh yea. i rely on that heavy. in my games most people i play with dont touch gens when im in chase really annoying. so i gotta brake off chase and go gen rush

[autumn mirage]

i always run bond on soloQ for this reason, i just sit on a gen and with UI and bond i can tell when i should move from gen or when is save to stay in it

i swear bond is the best perk if you know how to take advantage of the UI info

in soloQ of course lmao

[polar kayak]

yeah. how familiar are you with vee's tambourine perk is it for other survivors the get more skil checks. so if you are running solo the lute perk is better?

[autumn mirage]

on solo im not really sure

i just hope most this PTB changes dont got live, visuals on PTB are gorgeous but the gameplay on this PTB took horrible choices

[polar kayak]

yeah. i feel like the trickster's rework was basically aesthetic .ill have to play him and see for myself

[stiff mulch]

new fast track will definitely be problematic as is, if all survivors are running it then it basically reduces the amount of gens in the trial to like 3.75 instead of 5
I think they should just change it from 3 tokens per hook to like 2 tokens or some shit and make the upper limit 8
at 2/3rds of its current strength I think it would be viable and not overpowered as it is now

[autumn mirage]

the issue is that even if is 1/3 of the strengh it got rn is that is PERMANENT repair progress, if the survivors get permanent progress on the 3 gens then they can then just do the safe gens and in the last 3 gens they will repair them without issue and also that the perk got 0 cost, 0 time needed to get value and is just passive value that its straight up better than Brand new parts which is the best addon for toolboxes....

[stiff mulch]

nah be honest it would be dogshit if you got 1 token

[autumn mirage]

1 token is 2% which if all 4 survivors bring perk then every time you hook someone they get a free permanent 6%

[stiff mulch]

0 cost isnt true every perk has a cost in the sense it takes up a slot

if youre gonna say that 1 token fast track would be too strong when it would be dogshit and a complete waste of a perkslot im not even gonna bother arguing with that

[autumn mirage]

that argument doesnt mean much, cost talks about what the perk takes to get value saying the perk slot is a cost means every single perk got a cost which isnt true

[autumn mirage]

if every single hook you get as killer gives free passive 6% permanent repair to survivors then yes it would still be problematic even if way less than 18% for hook

brand new parts gives 9%, its a iri addon and 1 time use

[stiff mulch]

4 people running fast track is a potential 4 ds's gone, a potential 4 unbreakables gone, a potential 4 lithes gone, a potential 4 resiliences gone,

sounds to me like you dont want people to run anything other than the same 10 perks theyve been running

a 1 token fast track is completely dogshit, its 15 seconds off of 1 gen, deja vu is stronger than that

we dont complain deja vu is overpowered do we?

[autumn mirage]

thats like saying bringing resilience isnt strong because "4 people running resilience is a potential 4 ds's gone, a potential 4 unbreakables gone and potential 4 lithes gone"

[stiff mulch]

we certainly dont complain weaving spiders is OP do we? thats 80 charges, more than 4 fast tracks can ever get if theyre one token, and thats with 2 of your teamates probably dead

[autumn mirage]

dude the perk actives for EVERY hook not only the first one, getting a possible total of 6 tokens would be 90 seconds off a gen for FREE

[stiff mulch]

how are you gonna insta pop a gen if youre entire team is dead I dont get it

[autumn mirage]

the difference is one takes you to be injure whole match, takes time for invocation and you waste time unlike the oother you need to do nothing but get great skill check which with hyperfocus doesnt matter

[autumn mirage]

dude 6 hooks means your other 3 teammates are on detah hook, not death 9 hooks would be all your team death

[stiff mulch]

actually why am I even taking you serious, you think 2% off a gen for a hook (6% if the ENTIRE TEAM is running it, wouldnt even add up to a pain res) is overpowered
a single shoulder the burden is 10x more damaging

[autumn mirage]

6% for EVERY HOOK

[stiff mulch]

at the cost of 4 perks btw

clearly youre unaware how many more damaging perks can be chosen over a 2% fast track

[autumn mirage]

if i get a total of 72% of a gen gone passive in exchange for 4 perks i would not care

[stiff mulch]

6 x 12 btw

[autumn mirage]

yeah you just refuse to do math

[stiff mulch]

entire team dead, or are we using this in 2v8

average high MMR lobby, someone is dead at 4 hooks, 24% has been taken off a gen(at the cost of 4 perks btw), survivors are now operating at half efficiency
and you think that this 24% is the most game changing thing to ever be observed

[autumn mirage]

Yeah no longer worth arguing, im trying to explain to you for 10 times and now i get mix the number and thats your only argument

enjoy whatever you wanna think and killer being miserable

[stiff mulch]

you were never worth arguing with in the first place lmao, you dont understand how a game actually progresses, or the value of actually good perks, perks are probably 80% of ANY players strength, giving up 4 of them for what adds up to maybe a grand total of 40% of a generator in a actual match is a DOGSHIT trade,
the fact you think its worth picking over something like DS Unbreakable Deadhard vigil botany sprint burst finesse, adrenaline, we'll make it, lithe, resilience, prove thyself, resurgence, wglf, dramaturgy, hyperfocus, deliverance, plot twist, stb, babysitter, or OTR is insane to me

a single DS can enable a survivor to buy enough time for 100% of a gen, survivors can bring four of those you know

I elected to suggest a reasonable nerf to keep a perk worth choosing so that maybe someone would use something out of that box, all you suggested was to kill the perk entirely because youre scared of different perks ever getting used

long live painres dms corrupt pop + ds dh ub resi

[weary pilot]

Is it me or is Self-Preservation such a good perk now?

[stiff mulch]

its pretty good, but it can be sabotaging your team passively if you arent using it properly

I think its funny how the highlight of this guys issue with the perks in the game would be in a 1 token fast track, when self preservation + deliverances lets you unhook yourself and not have your aura read or scratch marks or noise or blood trails for probably an additional 20 seconds, causing the killer to lose astronomical pressure

[ripe bison]

Kind of?

[ripe bison]

in retrospect it was weird noone was running it in the PTB

[south patio]

It becomes a massive problem when all 4 survivors are running it

I've ran into swfs with the quad setup

Only 1 needs weaving, the rest can replace it with one prove thyself and two deja Vus, 4 bnp because the BP economy is thriving and boom

You are now hard punished for doing your job as killer

[weary pilot]

Secret Project goes hard on Iri Photocard Trickster. The perk fully counters the downsides of the addon while you get to have free undetectable and information at the press of a button for the cost of your main event.

[hybrid pewter]

when are we getting more male crop top skins like the Felix one?

[stiff mulch]

next year

[pulsar goblet]

After a few rounds on the new map I can say that it feels perfect for Rize and Kaneki

[stiff mulch]

try deerkstalker or DMS with it lmao

[pulsar goblet]

Not only does it have a lot of space to use your power but it also fits Ghoul in general

[stiff mulch]

well they also buffed the shit out of ghoul for no reason

[pulsar goblet]

We finally got a unique map instead of a goddamn reskin with a few set pieces cough Freddy's cough

[pulsar goblet]

How so? I'm not noticing anything

[stiff mulch]

vault backing against ghoul is removed

which was one a very few counterplays

BHVR described it as a quality of life change btw

[pulsar goblet]

I mean that's kind of the thing though
People like to stand around during a Kagune vault,

Which allows them to get hit, that isn't a bug by the way

[stiff mulch]

why are we talking about bugs

it used to be if you entered at the right angle you could dodge the kagune vault and get back over to the other side of the pallet, which was one of the few limited counterplays against ghoul, they made it physically impossible to do that now, that is a blatant buff disguised as "optimization"

and then theres another example of BHVR nerfing forced hesitation for some reason by making it so you can plot twist to deny the killer its value

and plot twist is already a top 10 perk(not in usage but value) so its not like this is some super niche scenario

[autumn mirage]

Appraisal, specialist, fast track and brand new parts with 2 people can just 100% a generator if both survivors do the brand new part at the same time, it all stacks together

[pulsar goblet]

And sadly awakened ghoul cannot be mixed with kaneki

I still don't get why that counts as a model change

[pulsar goblet]

You know there's just something that I've noticed about survivor perks

A lot of them are direct counters to killer perks, But there's not a lot of killer perks that are counters to survivor perks

Like there's nothing you can do to counter a lithe or sprint burst

[stiff mulch]

languid touch absolutely counters exhaustion perks

[pulsar goblet]

And they already nerfed turn back the clock

And then there was that weird update with... Spirit fury?

[stiff mulch]

the reason there arent many counters to survivor perks is because majority of survivor perks are personal protection perks

spirit fury was not changed

tbtc was not nerfed, a bug synergy with wraiths shadow dance was fixed

because tbtc is not a break action, you do not perform anything

[pulsar goblet]

Yeah but it always sucks when I'm getting a down or I'm so close to getting a down and then those 30 seconds are immediately invalidated by a perk

So gens just went off and I got nothing out of it

[pulsar goblet]

But why is that really a bad thing, I think wraith needs some synergy, otherwise he's basically an useless m1 killer

[stiff mulch]

a lot of killer powers inheritly can counter exhaustion, something like DS is meant to be powerful because its an anti tunnel perk, meant to counter tunneling, which is a strategy that can apply extreme pressure early on in a game

[pulsar goblet]

I noticed that it kind of was when I tried to use SF, enduring, and legion pin

[stiff mulch]

placebo effect

all pallet breaks except knight and vorpal sword charge spirit fury, its always been that way

for what its worth theres not a single survivor perk in the game that counters top tier killers

[pulsar goblet]

But I mean what else do I have? Gen Regression strategies and perks got nerfed heavily, I can't do anti heal Because there's so many healing perks,

[stiff mulch]

DS against a blight? he will just down you the millisecond he is unstunned, same with nurse, exhaustion perks? he will hit you anyways (s)hes faster

[stiff mulch]

committing to chases is anti heal

[pulsar goblet]

Unless you run to a pallet

Which given the density in the current patch

[stiff mulch]

no? they will both still just instantly down you regardless

if you think a blight cannot outplay any filler in 4 seconds you are wrong

[pulsar goblet]

Then again I play controller so

Blight kind of feels wonky to play, or maybe my timing is off

[stiff mulch]

if youre playing killer on controller thats probably why it feels that way

controller is dogshit for almost every killer, even controller lovers in this game switch to kb&m when theyre on killer

DBD does after all have native kbm support

[pulsar goblet]

I'm kind of forced to play controller in some way

[stiff mulch]

nevermind I am wrong about native kbm but xims are allowed

[pulsar goblet]

My console is literally just a computer inside of a controller

[stiff mulch]

dbd on a switch is wild icl

I dont even know how games run on that thing its gotta be connected some cloud base streaming service cuz theres no way

[pulsar goblet]

That's how it is actually

[bold sphinx]

so the new elusive perks completely counters nurse calling and half of the onryo scourge hook perks, that's wild i hope it will have a cooldown it's absurd

[jagged fractal]

I wish Nintendo would let BHVR make a Switch 2 port. 😢

[stiff mulch]

a place for us only counters nurses calling, why does it need a nerf?
self preservation fucks over the rest of your team and mainly only counters ftte bbq and chili, theres only a chance it counters floods of rage, hardly absurd at all, the only thing absurd about self preservation is it activates on yourself when you get hooked

[hybrid pewter]

when will new trickster patch drop?

[frail belfry]

!lfg duo killers 4 2v8

whoops

[jagged fractal]

Two weeks from now I think. Give or take.

Maybe three.

[faint island]

Does anyone else here think the new map is too big?

[jagged fractal]

It's big. Not toooo big. It's not old RPD. But it's still big.

[ripe bison]

Way the rng works makes up for it though

Its bias towards different portions of the map

[hybrid pewter]

I die on hook on 2v8 RPD (old RPD) [......]

[bold sphinx]

one perks that totally counters another and require no efforts ?

[stiff mulch]

nurses calling doesnt require any effort either, self preservation is a personal buff, perks like this exist, theyre not problematic

[bold sphinx]

still has a condition = 32meters, this perks has none, it completely counters nurse calling, it's tiring to see that surv despite having 4 times the amount of killers perks, still have perks that are as good if not better than killers one

[stiff mulch]

no shit it has a range, did you think they would give you map wide aura reading for survivor performing a required task?

a place for us is a terrible perk theres no way were having this conversation, it counters a nurses calling and thats ALL it does, it has 0 usage for anything else

and it only counters it for the people using it, if youre trying to reset then the auras will be revealed when the person that doesnt have it starts to heal you

and if 4 people are running a place for us just to counter nurses calling then its not really an issue at ALL

[faint island]

i can't play killers on it really. survivors it's fun, but killers? yeah, good luck.

[ripe bison]

The issue with it in terms of survivor bias is all the windows

Theres a lot of god windows and stuff

Actual glass windows are also partially translucent, so you can see through them providing more visibility than was probably intended.

Some stupid pallets too in some areas

[cold sandal]

Elusive perks?

[weary pilot]

Three perks in the game that grant Elusive:

Self-Preservation, A Place For Us, Extrasensory Perception

[flint dagger]

cant believe wesker is actually butchered

i really hope its just the ptb

[jagged siren]

bugged pallets btw on the new map, some don't let you drop when running through them

[lofty glen]

bro feels like every killer in the ptb is a legion and every survivor is a wannabe bully lmfao
makes me miss mmr

[dapper saffron]

Fixed every “bug” except window slaps still not working

[haughty nexus]

He’s actually bottom b tier high c tier now, rip to the GOAT 😔

[stiff wolf]

I doubt his changes will make it to live

[pulsar goblet]

Fast track is insane

[bold sphinx]

the ptb map have so much issue around the door 😭

exit gates aren't working its funny asf

and the legion sometimes can't vault the pallet during frenzy

[weary pilot]

If this perk becomes mainstream popular with it being as popular as Windows, this is going to make playing low tier killers miserable.

[ripe bison]

Playing low tier killers is already kind of miserabel against people who know what theyre doing

[dry egret]

It does require your team to be losing, low tier killers won't suffer nearly the amount higher ones will

[ripe bison]

So what youre saying is thst lower tier killers wont suffer because they wont be hooking people to begin with?

[weary pilot]

Can someone interpret this addon? The wording is confusing to me.

[ripe bison]

Makes it takes longer for style ranks to go down while you arent rank S

[dry egret]

Yeah, a better killer will get downs faster and Fast Track will stack faster

[ripe bison]

What does it stacking faster have to do with anythinf

Youre still getting it regardless.

[dry egret]

Well you'd be getting more of it is my point

[ripe bison]

Hell the best killers in the game coukd arguably tunnel someone out before they even get a chance to use the perk.

[dry egret]

Yeah, honestly. But I think most killers won’t be too bugged by the perk in general. I personally haven’t found my PTB matches harder when people run any version of build involving Fast Track

[burnt harbor]

i cant tell if my inability to find a match is because nobody is playing rn or if the servers are just funny because its a test server

[weary pilot]

They call me a trophy wife because of the way I am spinning. But for real, this needs to be fixed before the patch goes live.

[cold sandal]

Glitch spot i take it?

[weary pilot]

No hacks. I'm just stuck in this spot for eternity now.

[cold sandal]

Like the killer was hacking and put you there?

[weary pilot]

No, the spot it totally possible to get to as survivor.

I will show you a clip, but this spot I got to makes it so I'm completely stuck. Killer can't get you out of course because why would a malevolent being do so.

[flint dagger]

removed rebounds and a variety of hug techs and added a delay in between dashes so removed insta flicks bro actually has nothing anymore

[weary pilot]

I have been freed from my prison.

[elder marlin]

also like, having main event only possible after reaching S style is kind of.....

the more I try out the new mechanics on trickster the more i go "im guessing no one tried it before this?"

[shrewd geyser]

What happened to BNP

[graceful turret]

Resilience nerf on PTB?

[rustic solstice]

now why did they do that

[muted creek]

Can anyone tell me if you can only access the public test build on pc

[unreal iris]

what's the nerf?

[rustic solstice]

no repair speed bonus

[primal iris]

It takes 20% longer to lose a stylw

[young forum]

nice

[ripe bison]

I was bringing this up to make a point that lower power killers suffer more from this

[spice vale]

Public Testing Build Discussion

[autumn mirage]

As usual with PTB we got visuals 11/10 and gameplay 5/10

i think only real good thing is that doing chest now can be useful

if you stack fast track and specialist 😭

[umbral yarrow]

I have to say, there are too many pallets on this map, like I literally had 2 spawn within 3 feet of each other, it's kinda unfair to the killers as a survivor main

[stiff wolf]

yeah with 2v8 they added more pallets to 1v4

oh wait i'm a dumbass you're talking about the trickster map

I played killer on it and it's fine, most pallet loops are just weak so it doesn't matter, they're all like 50/50s

[late hazel]

the map is hell for ranged killers from what ive seen

stealth killers thrive on it

[umbral yarrow]

yess, if you have enough distance there's some big loops you can run them on for a while

[stiff wolf]

Yes definitely horrible for ranged killers

I did play oni on it and it was ok for the most part but man there are some parts of the map where there's just so much shit

[late hazel]

bhvr yet again cooking with the art and animation but absolutely selling the game design

has it become a trend to release a killer with a map and have the map be horrible to play with said killer on 💔

[ripe bison]

Hag and Trapper is so much fun on it

Main build and its surrounding areas are insane for traps

[fresh cliff]

Is the new map survivor or killer sided

[ripe bison]

Survivor sided as hell due to insane window placements in the buildings and two car loops.

I assume they will be removing a bunch of windows when the map goes live.

[late hazel]

in terms of detail the map is stunning, fingers crossed we get a city map for tokyo or bangkok in the same realm

[misty yew]

You think the new map is going to dethrone eerie of crows or garden of joy in terms of annoyance?

[elder marlin]

if it stays the way it currently is yeah

[ripe bison]

It depends on how they change it for live

Theres way too many god windows

And other dumb shit that needs to be tweaked

[sleek shale]

is the new map small or big? I main pinhead so honestly map size is the only thing I give a shit about lol

[livid vessel]

when is ptb closing?

[livid vessel]

looks big af

[delicate cliff]

i need a whole album/EP release for the upcoming All-Kill chapter, especially Tae's theme

[raw basin]

When it's bingo

[raw basin]

I think the map itself is pretty big but the playable area is on the smaller side

[sleek shale]

Playable as in not filler or playable as in you can physically get there?

[raw basin]

As in you cannot get there

Actually it's not pretty big it's like slightly above average I think?

I don't remember 😭

[autumn mirage]

i just realized main event cant be used anywhere close 20 meters of hooks to avoid using it when someome unhooks.... bro

[autumn mirage]

its beetwen midwich and racoon city size

[weary pilot]

The wording was confusing to me, but it makes sense now if you exclude "from D to A". Since that's the case, this addon is amazing.

[ripe bison]

Its a fairly average in size but feels bigger due to all the buildings and stuff. Its also sectioned into different districts with their own sorts of layouts which the gen rng biases between

[thin storm]

is the map more or less survivor sided than lery's/gideon

[autumn mirage]

more i would say because holy shit the amount of god pallets and the strengh of the god windows included with being all the downsides of an indoor map

[ripe bison]

Way more in its current state with all its god windows and chainable tiles

[sleek shale]

im sure theyll rebalance it but the box spawns are never gunna get changed for obvious reasons so that's what im in anticipation for, guess I could play ptb but I don't really feel like getting death threats and shit just bc I didn't play the reworked character

I do wish they built around getting knife combos more with trickster with a harsher punishment for missing but more reward for chaining hits, would make him feel more unique and might actually get people excited to master him

[ripe bison]

Its mostly just streamers that do tjat

I played Hag and Trapper during the PTB and didnt get nearlt as many DCs as I usually do.

People only really DCed against me as Hag

[raw basin]

Whyyy

I love Hagsss

[ripe bison]

"who the fuck plays Hag?" - a streamer before immedietly dcing against me in the ptb

[raw basin]

😭

[errant terrace]

what’s ptb sorry i’m new gen✌️😢

[limber tiger]

Public test build
Its a beta for people to test the new stuff coming

Steam launcher only

[errant terrace]

ohh okay

[tepid tapir]

ugh i hate playing killer atp

they hate us

[raw basin]

Who are you playing asss

[tepid tapir]

im not playing anymore i saw the 2 sec gen video and uninstalled the 30 sec gens were already bad enough from last update

[raw basin]

...

Literally PBT it will probably be balanced 😭

[tepid tapir]

im sure people will complain and theyll remove it before it hits live but its a pattern theyre showing time and time again the dont like the killer players so im not staying they dont like me

[ripe bison]

The number was too big is all

Honestly this really isnt anything to throw a fit

This is the same PTB that brough back old Pop

As in, when you kick a generator it instantly regresses 20% like pain res.

[dark mango]

Idk if it's a bug or not but why is Steve's picture on Nancy and Vice versa

[graceful turret]

such a nothingburger way more things to complain about in this game

it makes a nice tiktok clip but the setup for that is already game ending lol

[slender solar]

.

[candid osprey]

fr
people are acting like it'll happen every game where all survivors get the max stacks of tokens lol

[pulsar goblet]

I just want to remind everybody that during the PTB of the anti-tunneling update, survivors were intentionally wearing the same skin or throwing themselves at the killer in order to die early and get that permanent Gen speed buff

I can even vouch for this happening because I was a solo q in a swf and I got SANDBAGGED

[dry egret]

https://cdn.discordapp.com/attachments/1194065197992775772/1477714155828936937/higuruma-oh-my-god.gif

[ripe bison]

It wasn't gen speed buff it was literally locking the killer out of damaging generators

[pulsar goblet]

It was that and gen speed

[ripe bison]

google AI is not a good source citing

[pulsar goblet]

Let me go to the actual update page

[ripe bison]

also I remember it also blocking gen damage

Even if there was a speed buff that was the bigger deal

[pulsar goblet]

And I don't know why people are saying that fast track is nothing burger in this ptb

When you're playing soloQ not a lot of survivors are actually good at the game

I mean it's basically giving you permanent gen progress for your teammate sucking ass

Which alot of average players already do in chase

There's nothing wrong with that but it's still kind of busted

[ripe bison]

Wdym people are saying its a nothingburger

Its like the click bait thumbnail "devs are survivor biased this game is dead" thing this ptb

Its absolutely overtuned

[pulsar goblet]

Actually quite recently

I've seen a lot of people on Reddit try to defend it for some reason

A lot of people point to the fact that not every survivor would have max stack and not all 4 survivors would have it equipped

But even then I've played a couple rounds with it on and I felt like I was doing gens incredibly fast

[quiet geyser]

Exactly lol if that update actually came live it would have been even worse experience for killers.

[odd bison]

when does the ptb go live?

[hard idol]

are you fucking serious, WHY would that be a good idea

that isnt even fucking tunneling if there is say, a dumb fuck thats afk and gets killed or someone in a swf sacrifices themselves, god damn survivor sided fuck ass game

[buoyant scaffold]

Sometimes I feel like bhvr listens to the fuckin' SWF bully squads more than people who play proper survivor

[hard idol]

exactly, they dont listen to the actual players they just listen to the fucks that cant play killer for the life of them and just think that every time they lose 'oH tHe KiLLeR iS sO oP aNd NeEdS tO bE nErFeD" again and again

[buoyant scaffold]

the majority of anti-tunneling and anti-slugging ideas they put in (the old PTB, to clarify) are just... "the survivors aren't skilled enough, let's hand them a mulligan x10"

[ripe bison]

People constantly complaining about how Hag can traps hooks is so insufferable

[hard idol]

complaining about HAG of all killers thats just lovely

[buoyant scaffold]

the game isn't supposed to be "balanced" or "fair", you're a normal person going against an often supernatural serial killer (save when you're Alucard, then you're a nerf'd dhampir); you're supposed to work harder/smarter to win

[hard idol]

tell any survivor main that, they sure as fuck cant understand that

[buoyant scaffold]

I play 50/50, I'm saying it from experience

[ripe bison]

Its not lovely when you are subject to it and have to worry about behavior butchering her in an update

[hard idol]

that was sarcasm

im not such a dumb ass that i think thats actually lovely

[ripe bison]

I thought you meant lovely as in amusing

[hard idol]

yeah, you arent a survivor main, you understand that to understand the game you need to play both, not just fucking play survivor and say anytime you play against a good killer they are either hacking or overpowered

[buoyant scaffold]

My favorite example of this was playing as HUNK, with an anti-sabo build (best I can describe it), and I had all four survivors down in less than a minute. Because they all were planning on either doing flashlight saves or sabo-ing the hook

I had Mad Grit and Agitation

[hard idol]

that a legion skin right?

[buoyant scaffold]

I feel like I learn more about how to better play both sides when I play both sides

[buoyant scaffold]

Yeah, I didn't even need to use my power after the first run

[hard idol]

what a shocker you get better when you play to get better

[buoyant scaffold]

I don't even have 1000 hrs in, and I have 50% of the achievements

Balance is key here

also, I have the RPD map memorized, which helped me play RE2. It's a side note, but I figured a small chuckle would help ease moods

It's a lot bigger than the RPD map I memorized at age 7 playing RE2 on my playstation 0

[pulsar goblet]

And that's what happened in the PTB, you had swf's either sacrificing one of their own, or sandbagging the outlier who's in solo q for the buff

[hard idol]

which what a shocker doesnt make anyone like this game, killer or survivor being sacrificed i really REALLY hope this dogshit change doesnt go live

[pulsar goblet]

It didn't go live

[hard idol]

that like a old change?

[pulsar goblet]

That anti tunneling and anti slugging update happened months ago yeah

The PTB was awful for killer and awful if you weren't swf

[hard idol]

well thank fucking god then that it didnt

[pulsar goblet]

Now the fast track buff..

[hard idol]

i saw TWO people get a zero percent gen done IN LIKE 4 SECONDS

[pulsar goblet]

Behold, faster gens by doing terribly

[candid osprey]

pretty sure 2 weeks after the PTB ends, meaning it's literally just in two weeks

[elder marlin]

yeah almost all full SWF teams I went against were min maxxing for speed or gen repair
fast track, stake out, prove thyself, hyper focus (or deja vu)
or five moves ahead paired with sprint burst and finesse and any means necessary

so good luck chasing a loop (especially on Trickster's Delusion) if you aren't a speed/teleport killer and slowing down gens
the speed of the survivor you're more than likely chasing, their ability to reset pallets, vault fast, with their teammates using the repair gen strat
you can really only fully build to counter one or the other, if you dont full spec into one, doing it by half isnt enough

[wintry nest]

ive slowly started to hate the new map...

[candid osprey]

absolutely loving it when i was playing Wraith and Legion, we love small maps

[ripe bison]

the fact you gain 3 tokens is ridiculous

[wintry nest]

wish i could say the same 😭

[raven flume]

At least its different than tire and box slop

[elder marlin]

In regards to the new map itself; aesthetically and mood wise I love the map, the pallet density and god windows needs to be adjusted

[candid osprey]

god windows can be argued since you can just walk like three meters to the left of most of them and be on the other side

[muted oriole]

Since we can change the colors of scratch marks and auras now can we have Red Borgo back

[pulsar goblet]

What do you mean, most tiles suck for survivors

[elder marlin]

there's plenty of double pallets one way pallets and indoor then out of window vaults

[ripe bison]

Is that sarcasm or

[candid osprey]

well yeah, it's more so about chaining the tiles, especially on this map

[ripe bison]

There are parts of the map were god windows chain into eachother

And then into a pallet

[pulsar goblet]

No,

[pulsar goblet]

Oh I main ghoul so people really can't chain on this mal against me before I slingshot

[ripe bison]

I had a blast playing Hag and Trapper because it was easy to lock down the area around the main building

You cna trap those loops if need be

[tulip hill]

guys we need more male crop top skins like the Felix one >///<

[nimble sand]

And the Jake one just don't make it a Canadian tuxedo

[livid vessel]

give alan wake a crop top

[celest hare]

PTB's closed right

[candid osprey]

I'm on it right now and still finding lobbies, so as of now it's still up

[celest hare]

Ah cool ty

[elder marlin]

though there are a lot of things i'd like to see get changed before coming live (some survivor perks, pallet density, and certain trickster kit and addons)
the voice lines, new animations, and the map design is just aaah that's the stuff

[rich frigate]

how is everyone finding the ptb i havent played it

[autumn mortar]

Hey guys is the ptb still active?

[ripe bison]

No

[wanton coral]

does 5 moves ahead replace windows?

[ripe bison]

For the most part yeah

Assuming it doesnt have its cooldown increased by a significant ammount or something

[supple delta]

did ptb end?

[lime pulsar]

When is this gonna release

[supple delta]

idk

[solemn valve]

i believe its march 17th

[languid light]

Did anyone run around maybe in customs and count the amount of pallets in the new map to compare with the live release?

[ripe bison]

Never thought to

[elder marlin]

I got to explore quite a bit, ill try to go look at my vod to see

[feral linden]

is jester overpowerd?

[ripe bison]

jester?

[ripe bison]

Do you mean Trickster? no he is not

[feral linden]

yes my bad trickster... lmao every clip ive seen of him has been him being op

[stiff wolf]

he's not op but new players struggle countering him

[ripe bison]

pretty much

[broken latch]

anyone else sick and tired of the mmr system. I am sitting on 15 min queue times almost just because there arent enough people in my mmr rank. #bringbackoldrankedsystem

[lime nebula]

your queues are long because of 2v8, not your mmr

[dapper saffron]

Trickle needs buffs but the rework feels nice

Map is cool but rough to play on for some killers. Also needs tweaks to window spawns

[sterile falcon]

Is PTB over?

[ripe bison]

Its been over for a while now

[sterile falcon]

Today right?

[ripe bison]

Didnt it ends a few days ago?

[sterile falcon]

I just played yesterday

[ripe bison]

Huh

[sterile falcon]

I played the PTB yesterday

[sweet harbor]

How to get rid of an 85kg chicken fast

[brittle valley]

its insane because when i was trying out every killer back when i first came back after my 4 year hiatus i absolutely loathed trickster. he felt horrible, clunky, weak, and unfun. but the few matches i played in the ptb were fun. Trickster actually felt pretty good. I was so surprised.

I do definetly think it would be nice with a few buffs though. I can see him being 4.6, but at the same time he doesn't have to be. I'd rather get multiple small buffs to his kit rather than a single big buff like to his speed. Perhaps increasing his walkspeeds with knives out, reducing decay rates on style points/laceration, more buffs from higher style ranks, buffs for certain addons cough shoes cough, etc.

Plus, i feel like having trickster be 4.6 with how fast he can kill now is slightly risky and limits him from being buffed in other ways in the future.

[dapper saffron]

I want the speed to be tied to rank ups

[ripe bison]

Wouldnt that be janky

[dapper saffron]

So at c or b tier he goes up to 4.6 and then at s tier he goes to 4.8

[ripe bison]

S tier being 4.8 is incredible stupid lol

[dapper saffron]

I think it would feel pretty natural

[brittle valley]

it also made me sad. i took a break from dbd since like november, and only came back to try the ptb today. played two matches then hopped off, then came back a few hours later and the ptb was gone😭

i wanted to play more of the reworked trickster. i tried playing trickster on live but he felt soooo bad

[ripe bison]

Why even throw knives at that point

[dapper saffron]

He speed up with everything else he does as ranks increase

[dapper saffron]

He has a 44 meter tr so there’s lots of prerun time

Krasue is 4.8 base

4.8 is just a scary way of saying 5% haste

[solemn valve]

i feel like 4.8 while in s rank is fine since it degrades so fast

[brittle valley]

thats already an addon. though him going to 4.6 at S rank might work. still, i don't think touching his movement speed is the right choice.

[ripe bison]

In head form, which cant injure survivors that arent infected and has a weird lunge

[brittle valley]

it takes a minute+ to degrade lol. its the longest style derank timer

[solemn valve]

ah sorry i didn't play ptb much and didn't touch killer at all ㅠㅠ

[dapper saffron]

The lunge is stronger than normal lunge so i dont rlly understand ur point there

[ripe bison]

From Ive heard the big thing trickster mains dont like is how slow he moves while throwing or sometbing

[brittle valley]

sidenote, but i hate playing krasue. so jank and clunky.

[dapper saffron]

It’s effectively faster since it doesn’t pause while hooking

Unlike other tiers

[ripe bison]

People said the exact same thing durring her PTB. Behavior answered by removing her limitations that made her feel clunky, which resulted in her becoming S tier due to how stupid her mobility and antiloop was

[brittle valley]

yeah me too. they reduced his speed while throwing to 3.68 or so, down from 3.86. i think they should bring it back up again or find a middle ground. especially since he gets slower the more knives he throws.

also, the shoes are completely pathetic now. a 1% increase in movement speed while holding knives. its on the level of potion of speed or knotted rope. absolutely atrocious addon design.

[dapper saffron]

The clunkiness of her lunge was the skill floor/ceiling

Now she is braindead easy and insufferable to vs

[brittle valley]

yeah, i know

[dapper saffron]

Knotted rope is so funny to me that they’ve just left it like this

[brittle valley]

shes easy but shes not braindead, and she suffers hard in short loops to the point where its more effective to go into body form at places like car loops or even some jungle gyms, at which point the survivor can often just rotate to another loop for free due to how slow the transformation is.

not saying krasue should transition faster or even get buffed. i admit i'm not good at her, but she feels sooo clunky and unresponsive to me. i just can't play her.

[brittle valley]

BHVR has a bad habit of just avoiding certain addons. there are a few addons that they've added, tried to balance, and then just completely given up on and made them worthless rather than try to balance them. it sucks complete ass and is just lazy on their part.

i made this video on potion of speed and it got some 1.5k upvotes on reddit, so i know i'm not alone in feeling that

[dapper saffron]

First one easy

[brittle valley]

i'm nto using it in either lol

[dapper saffron]

Fuck 🥀

[cold sandal]

That video had me dying ngl

[wanton coral]

surprised the chat hasn't been closed yet

[languid light]

Suddenly the channel gets locked until the next ptb

[elder marlin]

exactly this.

[dire silo]

give trickster a gun please

[languid light]

gives off the same energy of hear me out, basekit Trick Blades

[dire silo]

that could work too

[languid light]

Unknown gets the uvx bounce regardless of addons why can't Trickster hehe

[sharp ivy]

Meow

[hard idol]

yeah clearly knifes should be able to bounce around

[languid light]

See? You get it

[hard idol]

https://tenor.com/view/brain-gif-22265960

[open stratus]

how much longer is PTB open for??

[candid osprey]

it's closed already

[open stratus]

ty

[rich frigate]

oh oops i forgot to take part

how was it everyone whats the vibe

[stiff wolf]

new map is beautiful but not that fun for killer imo, especially dash or ranged ones

[rich frigate]

I thought it was an outdoor map? I thought it was indoor maps that were less fun

How is the new surv

[stiff wolf]

It technically is outdoor but it plays like an indoor one since it's an urban environment, lots of winding alleys and actual indoor locations like shops and nightclubs

about the new surv I don't really know since I didn't look into it but I've heard he has some cool perks

[rich frigate]

fair fair fair

I know I'm in the minority but i love inside maps so I'm excited for it

[stiff wolf]

I like them for the variety they offer until I have to play a killer like blight

[ripe bison]

Its super fun for trapper

Its very easy to lock down the area around the main build.

[winged kraken]

when does the ptb end

[winged kraken]

nvm

[elder marlin]

agreed x2

[elder marlin]

yikes. but is that ptb related?

[limber tiger]

$blur the name pls

[dusty edge]

It looks like you have someone’s name that should be blurred in your screenshot--If something negative is being shown, such as DCs or someone talking trash, please blur their names. Feel free to reupload the new version! Thank you!

[sharp ivy]

meow

[ripe bison]

Woem

[hoary fable]

I’ve also heard the survivors perks are cool but one I’ve seen criticized for being a worse version of windows of opportunity so idk

[icy summit]

Wait why is this chat still open lmao

[flat oracle]

PTB CHANNEL NOW CLOSED

Thank you for using it! It will reopen on the next ptb.

[barren viper]

https://tenor.com/view/marketmove-move-opne-for-business-gif-27451136

[cloud wagon]

PTB 9.6.0.

https://app.betahub.io/projects/pr-5642738318/releases/3420

[grave lily]

Hooray!!!

[dry egret]

Is anyone else having a perk bug? Both me and my friend are having a bug where some killers/survivors can only use general perks. This seemingly doesn't affect killers who were prestiged in older PTBs

[steel magnet]

yeah its annoying

[random minnow]

Yeah makes the ptb kinda pointless tbh cos the whole point is to test perks with diminishing returns but no perks are available

[ripe bison]

everyone is gettting it

[sudden vault]

yup

[tall cedar]

can someone explain the skull merchant section?

Added support to multiple Power icons.
New Power Icons mapped to Deploy Drone, Rotate and Recall actions.

[barren viper]

Just power icon updates, no mechanical changes

[tall cedar]

thank you! i figured !

[tardy hatch]

W perk selection

[zealous elk]

is the ptb crashing for anyone else?

I keep getting this

[languid light]

Currently no

Last PTB yes

[zealous elk]

weird
were you able to fix it last ptb? maybe the fix can work here too

[fresh river]

Mine is crashing whenever I use the -dx11 launch setting, but then when im not using that launch setting Its stuck on the initializing shaders screen

[zealous elk]

ahhh I also use -dx11

I'll remove it just to see

[fresh river]

Yeah, the initializing shaders thing is probslly just on my end

[zealous elk]

I wonder why -dx11 is causing crashes tho

[languid light]

This is what fixed it for me last time

Hope that helps

[zealous elk]

also doing that right now

[icy summit]

WE DONT EVEN HAVE PERKS UNLOCKED ARE YOU KIDDING ME?!?

[limber tiger]

click their bloodweb

[icy summit]

On certain characters i do but i bought Blight in the PTB and he has nothing outside of what i just spent BP on

Actual bs

[soft phoenix]

Still no consistent Weaken re-aplication on Unknown.
If you gonna "Buff" him can we get at least that?

[tardy basalt]

like a legit pointless ptb ngl hope they fix it

[astral tartan]

anyone else struggling to find a game as killer in ptb?

been in q for 30 minutes

[odd vortex]

Welcome to playing killer on the PTB

[rigid axle]

Killer changes will usually result in longer queues

[zealous elk]

okay this is true. Also remove -d3d11 if you use it

[odd vortex]

He has add ons and he can snipe unhooks and gens.

Youre just going to have land your shots big guy

[turbid panther]

It's happening to everyone

[woeful shore]

true

[turbid panther]

So in the meantime we either gotta use our characters from old ptbs or beginner builds

[icy summit]

Its so awful. Cant even use perks on Blight who was the ONE killer i'm even in this ptb for

[odd vortex]

You can still play him. Why do you need to run a full meta build and sweat in order to test his chase

Survivors can literally DC in the first 2 seconds of the match you sit 30 min in que for. Like chill out and test. Stop.

[zealous elk]

I'm going to run expose dredge for the sole reason he got a slight movement speed while holding remnant buff

[icy summit]

Who even mentioned full meta or sweating lmao. I don't have ANY perks unlocked. And what if i wanted to use my usual build that i run outside of the PTB?

This just straight up shouldn't be something that has been happening in the past like 3 or 4 ptbs. Every PTB has had some kind of progressively worse problem involving addons and perks

[astral tartan]

Other ptbs for me were never THAT long i gave up and went in custom just to find out that mina's mori is bugged with trickster's 💀

[daring vessel]

Why are BHVR so scared of making a drastic change to a killer unless it's to nerf them??? For Springtrap they should've just made him permanently 4.6 m/s and made restaurant menu completely basekit so they can change the add-on can do something else. Not to mention the Doctor, Cannibal, Ghostface, and Dredge buffs were so incredibly miniscule they don't even really matter.

[ripe bison]

This bug actuallyt looks rather nice

[alpine dune]

Wsg

[ripe bison]

anyway

STEGUL IS BACK! REJOICE!

[odd vortex]

Bitter, spies, whispers, noed on blight

Go chase people, stop

[ripe bison]

Its probably because of the perk bug

theres a bug where a character just has no perks asside from either generic ones or all rank 1

[odd vortex]

Im telling them what to run

[icy summit]

Wait he is?

[odd vortex]

Instead of whining

[astral tartan]

ok um

[ripe bison]

Yeah. He does the stegul scream now but with his new VA

[astral tartan]

so mina's mori is rlly bugged like its either bugged with trickster's most of the time or the surv's faces are deformed when its not

[ripe bison]

For what it is worth, them increasing the camera's battery was actually kind of huge for when you actually use it

Its possible now to just sit on a camera monitoring him for long periods of time

Issue is youre still becoming a person who is not doing a generator

[daring vessel]

I mean it doesn't really matter, all Springtrap players know to run Mindbreaker.

[ripe bison]

Blindness doesnt block camera aura

[daring vessel]

Really?

[ripe bison]

yeah

Springtrap players run mindbreaker because of sprintburst

[daring vessel]

I was under the assumption that it does considering Mindbreaker is what I see every Springtrap run.

[daring vessel]

Yeah that too.

[ripe bison]

Mindbreaker prevents survivors from prerunning off of generators the moment they hear him exit a door

[daring vessel]

I know but I thought it blocked camera aura.

[ripe bison]

nope

[soft phoenix]

Respectfully, wtf does anything you said has anything to do with the fact that Unknowns 2nd Weaken is shorter than 1st for no reason whatsoever?

[odd vortex]

Your suggestions on ani are bad. No ranged killer should be 4.6

[ripe bison]

Unknown is 4.6

[cursive kestrel]

As a Dredge main I see this ptb as a win (with the sole exception of survivors being able to see the killers power in the beginning)

[turbid panther]

Also the controller icons for playstaion controllers dont work in this ptb

[brittle mantle]

Other than like Trickster

[turbid panther]

its only xbox icons for them now

[daring vessel]

Nah you're just dumb. No killer should be 4.4 m/s anymore except Blight. The game has become too fast paced and lots of 4.4 killers struggle.

[ripe bison]

This is incredibly stupid

[ripe bison]

[odd vortex]

Brainrot lmao

[daring vessel]

https://tenor.com/view/benjammins-idk-this-person-questioning-random-person-this-who-gif-5295285761881556675

[cursive kestrel]

You mean the part where survivors can see the killers power, right?

[ripe bison]

Yes

Not to imply bias but this is a colossal Hag nerf

Its extremelt bad for her

[cursive kestrel]

It nerfs all map-control killers and stealth ones too

[odd vortex]

People can figure it its hag pretty quick my guy

[cursive kestrel]

Hell, I think even trapper would suffer from this

[odd vortex]

Um... the unopened traps littered around the map?

[limber ridge]

any possible way we can keep this as a chance position? i bet it looks so hilarious

[ripe bison]

If you get spotted, someone sees a trap you placed, or someone sets off a trap while you aren't running shackles.

Avoiding getting spotted while you set up is really important

Youre supposed to be able to by design

[odd vortex]

OoO procs after 30 sec, poised procs instantly w/o corrupt, running into you in the first 30

[alpine dune]

I like trapper

[odd vortex]

Its not going to be as impacting as you think it is

[cursive kestrel]

https://tenor.com/view/this-slander-is-so-good-one-piece-slander-yuta-okkotsu-jjk-gif-1838148331228807527

[alpine dune]

I'm lowk cooked

[ripe bison]

People rarely run poised, and OoO isn't as omnipresent as youre implying. OoO also requires being in the killer's TR. She has a 24 meter TR, and Hags often run Monitor to make it smaller (although I guess now less so since monitor got nerfed)

[odd vortex]

OoO does not require TR

[ripe bison]

You can also run secret project with corrupt for 30 sec of undetectable at the start of the game

[ripe bison]

Oh yeah I forgot

still though, its not THAT omnipresent.

Its very noticable and annoying when people run it and thankfully it isnt nearly as common as something like windows

least in my experience

[odd vortex]

The point is to shrink the gap between solo and SWF. SWFs are very aggressive about finding the killer quickly

[cursive kestrel]

Voice chat should be default in the game, same for killer actually that would be great

[odd vortex]

That would be a disaster given how whiny and toxic the DBD community is

Being in most of the VCs in this server is bad enough

[cursive kestrel]

It would have less of a reason to be whiny and toxic because of other things that come from it

[icy summit]

PTB so buggy i got skins equipped from previous PTBS that i dont even own anymore

[ripe bison]

Yeah you can still equip them via presets.

[left falcon]

Is PTB bugged? I have no perks. Just the ones from the killer/character equipped.

[languid light]

They seem to revert back to your default outfit when you load into a match

[icy summit]

Ah darn

[ripe bison]

Yeah perk unlocks are weird in this ptb for some reason.

[left falcon]

I hope they fix it :(

[ripe bison]

considering they didn't fix it when there were issues last PTB Im doubtful

[icy summit]

There has been isssues like this for the past like 4 ptbs

[ripe bison]

I know

[left falcon]

I just mean how are you supposed to test diminishing returns if you have no perks?

[ripe bison]

It only got particularly bad with the most recent one before this though

[icy summit]

Legion is still killswitched in the PTB

[ripe bison]

[rotund thorn]

i know right? i wanted to test the vault speed build but i cant use any perks

[languid light]

That's the best part! You don't

[left falcon]

Weirdly I do not own random killers either.

[icy summit]

I think the worst started when they made every character p100 and it got even worse from there

[rotund thorn]

i only own the basic survs and killers, bought some survs to see if i could get the perks or smt, it didnt work

[icy summit]

New perks dont even show up in the bloodweb....

[odd vortex]

so...the last one...got it

[icy summit]

Last one of allkill comeback

[odd vortex]

there arent any vault speed perks that stack

[peak shale]

Does the PTB have the angel killer?

[odd vortex]

https://tenor.com/view/gohine-hohino-no-hohineee-gohineee-gif-17792172174678204487

[icy summit]

No lol that aint coming for a while

[peak shale]

Dang ok

[rotund thorn]

really ? i thought maybe bamboozle, superior anatomy and fire up

[odd vortex]

oh you mean for killer

[cursive kestrel]

I don't own any killers at all in the ptb, except Bubba which came with the dlc, I just used iri shards to get Dredge

[glass folio]

seems S tier blights (lilith) are still S. but B blights are now C. Is that BHVR's intended direction? Does BHVR need low tier blights to be weaker to have bigger separation from the good blights?

[cursive kestrel]

Blight mains aren't on fraud watch are they?

[wintry nest]

wait ptb what

can anyone tell me what is it about 🥺

[icy summit]

https://store.steampowered.com/news/app/381210/view/498350753733150731?l=english

[rigid axle]

You can play the next patch early & give feedback to the devs

[daring vessel]

A whole bunch of nothing buffs and some decent Blight nerfs. (Fast Track nerf too.)

[wintry nest]

ohh i see, ty

[rigid axle]

is what I would say if I could have found a match or killers being able to run perks at all

[wintry nest]

😔

[ripe bison]

Experimental mechanic where stacked buffs from perks and stuff is nerfed (particularly for survivor), fast track nerf, some extremely minor changes to a handful of killers, large Demogorgon buffs, more Wesker changes, supposedly come engine level changes, the ability to change the aura colors of things effected by perks and of killer power related thingsm and Stegul hath returned

[icy summit]

The fact that you cant even find new perks in the bloodweb after a certain point if a killer doesnt have perks unlocked is actually insane

[wintry nest]

Im halfway and finally demogorgon buffs 🥹

[ripe bison]

They really need to fix this. Survivor player counts on the ptb were already not gonna be particularly high, but this is making it way worse.

they arent gonna get as much data from this as is either

[icy summit]

Can they even fix it this PTB?

[ripe bison]

idfk

[wintry nest]

why did springtrap get nerfed 💔

[daring vessel]

Just make him 4.6 m/s with the axe already man.

[wintry nest]

fr fr

[ripe bison]

They increased the battery on the doors because they wanted to encourage the survivors to actually use them

[icy summit]

I dont play Demo how big of a buff is this?

[wintry nest]

seems pretty solid

[ripe bison]

Its really solid. The undetectable upon exiting a portal is actually long enough by default to actually matter, much more control over shred, and faster shred.

[azure warren]

Is anyone else level 1 in the PTB ?

How do I fix it

[icy summit]

https://tenor.com/view/thats-the-neat-part-you-dont-invincible-gif-27194608

[solar atlas]

Seeing the wesker changes theyve been adding since the 9.5.0 PTB gives me grey hairs and its js as bad rn

[ripe bison]

noone talking about how they nerfed matchbook

[azure warren]

Anyone else experiencing this too?

[icy summit]

yup

[ripe bison]

everyone has

It doesnt apply to ALL characters on my end at least

[azure warren]

Are they going to fix it?

[ripe bison]

they didnt fix the other perk issue from the last PTB

[wintry nest]

which one

[solar atlas]

Their wet paper code cant fix it

[wooden skiff]

why is perk selection totally fucked in ptb

[azure warren]

Ahh

[wintry nest]

i dont think im downloading this ptb guys...

[cursive kestrel]

What speed do survivors normally run in?

[wintry nest]

4m/s or 4 meters per second

[cursive kestrel]

Okay so Dredge now moves at that speed while charging his ability, sweet

[wintry nest]

dredge needs more love 💔

[pallid ginkgo]

what do we think of springtraps changes?

[solar atlas]

Absolute ass

[daring vessel]

Nothing burger.

[wintry nest]

the buffs are nothing burgers, nerfs were completely unnecesary

[daring vessel]

Like all the other changes besides Demo's changes.

[wooden skiff]

do demogorgon changes actually do anything for it

[vague willow]

why did none of my bought characters transfer over

[wooden skiff]

also once i swittch off ptb how do i get rid of this 47 gb

[wintry nest]

havent played yet but they probably help

[pallid ginkgo]

what nerfs

[daring vessel]

The undetectable will be nice.

[wooden skiff]

does tthe shred buff feel noticeable?

[fresh river]

Even if it doesnt 'feel' better in gameplay it will definitely matter, kinda like resilience for survs

[wintry nest]

they decreased the camera battery consumption which is basically a nerf, they nerfed the add on that decreased axe retrieval from 20 to 10 percent

[daring vessel]

Just make Menu basekit like omg.

[wintry nest]

they buffed the security doors add on tho, but i dont use it so idk

please rework springtrap...

[pallid ginkgo]

i mean the addon is basiclly embredded in him ill call it a buff tbf

[ripe bison]

The battery life increase made using the cameras to track springtrap way more effective. You can just sit on a door and monitor him for long periods of time. However this doesn't solve the issue of how most survivors would really rather be doing a generator than sitting on a camera.

[pallid ginkgo]

yeah

[wooden skiff]

god queues are ass

[wintry nest]

theyve been ass

[pallid ginkgo]

whys the ptb 50 GBS

[fresh river]

If the doors run out of power freddy lowk comes and does an insta mori

[ripe bison]

They made the act of using the cameras much more effective but didnt provide any new incentive to actually use the cameras

[wintry nest]

Good idea, youre hired 🥹

[vague willow]

this ptb is so buggy, none of the perks are popping up

[pallid ginkgo]

best aura reading addon in the game just rng i heard

[ripe bison]

something about engine level changes according to behavior

[daring vessel]

Nah once the power runs out Freddy just opens the exit gates for the survivors. BHVR would think that's way more fair.

[pallid ginkgo]

but springtrap is really rushed abilitys are wacky

[wintry nest]

doesnt he have bk aura reading anyways

[fresh river]

You're so right😖😖 and Chica comes and gives them some yummy pizza

[wooden skiff]

im gonna play one or two games of buffed demo then switch off this ass 😭 🥀

[pallid ginkgo]

make springtrap 4.8 m/s PLS

[wintry nest]

had the same thought twin

[wooden skiff]

how do i get the 47 gigabytes back after switching back to production

[pallid ginkgo]

pray you have uncapped

[wintry nest]

you dont

[wooden skiff]

fr? 😭

[wintry nest]

just uninstall it ig

[wooden skiff]

like uninstall dbd and reinstall?

[wintry nest]

the ptb(tbh dont listen to me i dont play dbd in pc)

[wooden skiff]

ill open the directory and see if its seperated from base dbd

[pallid ginkgo]

insane how ps4 servers shutting down right

[wintry nest]

what

[ripe bison]

they are?

[wintry nest]

i thought it was doing well

[pallid ginkgo]

i heard so but i dont know if its just a april fools thing

[wintry nest]

jst looked it up it says they arent

[pallid ginkgo]

mine shows not at once

[wintry nest]

weird

[odd vortex]

is anyone else having issues with the PTB crashing?

[wintry nest]

its buggy af so thats not surpriging

[pallid ginkgo]

and its still 50 GBS isnane

[odd vortex]

Ive crashed both games Ive played

[fallow nymph]

probably because of 2 things

1. bhvr
2. new engine

[pallid ginkgo]

what buff was the best so far and are any of them moving any tier you reckon

[wooden skiff]

oh finally got a game

[daring vessel]

The Demo buff was the only somewhat "major" one but I'd say he's still in the same tier as he was before. This patch didn't change any killer on a tierlist.

[ripe bison]

If youre refering to Bonnie's Guitar Strings, it isn't tied to RNG. Its let you view the progress of generators based on the intensity of their auras while inside of a door, with the downside being that the duration of the undetectable status after exiting a door is reduced by 100%

[odd vortex]

i.e. no stealth, in door lets yous ee gen progress

[pallid ginkgo]

acces panel

[vague willow]

no perks are unlocking even tho all the characters are level 3

[ripe bison]

Access Panel is ok I guess? The point of it is that it picks up on survivors who are trying to use the doors.

But survivors typically don't use the doors

[pallid ginkgo]

arent all the dorrs near gens

its buffed to a 6 meter instinct as it was 4

[ripe bison]

Yes and no. Theres RNG tied to the door placement and they aren't always really that close to a generator.

[pallid ginkgo]

thats why i said rng yeah

[odd vortex]

p sure the door spawn logic is the same as every other killer power interactible

[royal oxide]

demo buffs are massive

[odd vortex]

they spawn in the same places as RE chests, plague fountains, xeno buttholes

[ripe bison]

Funniest examples are off the top of my head are the door sometimes spawning in a room on the first floor of the main building in garden of joy instead of the second floor and a door spawning on the opposite side of wall from a generator in gideons

[ripe bison]

that makes sense

[daring vessel]

Why are all my Killers P100 but I have zero add-ons or perks for any of them???

[tidal grove]

egg nerf????? has bhvr lost it?

[odd vortex]

its not a nerf

they put most of it basekit and reduced the add on, they do this alot