ptb-discussion

[cloud python]

theres like couple seconds when killer cant see wheres survivor (if they both close), if u far away from vecna i think its better just keep shift+w

[granite furnace]

this is why I’m all ears is so good on him

[bold sphinx]

holding w works very well for sure

[bold sphinx]

i play him w im all ears, lethal pursuer nurse calling and nowhere to hide, but even with that it's kinda difficult if they straf well but in the open theyre cooked

[cunning kelp]

Imagine if the 3 gen is so close they can just stay in one place and fire at the gens

[granite furnace]

probably possible with a range add on (if he has any I don’t remember)

[cloud python]

+2 meter during worldbreaker is only i think

[bold sphinx]

Dead dawg the saloon map cowboy themed

if you get the main building gen in a 3 gen setup with the gen just below the main building and the one close to the exit game

with almost no movement you can do a 3gen setup

[worn bluff]

what's a good vecna build rn?

[wintry nest]

aura builds are good w vecna but i havent played the ptb enough for a good build sorry gng 😭

I personally just use normal gen regress perks because i dont need the aura but to each their own

[subtle zephyr]

I still say use Face The Darkness

[cunning kelp]

He has a range addon but not during worldbreaker

And it’s only 2 meters

[haughty hazel]

range addon would be INSANE on vecna

[iron drift]

Yo anyone else feel like they should make vecna walk instead of fly his walk is mad tuff

[wintry nest]

didnt vecna levitate in s5 or am i tweaking

[iron drift]

I don’t think so but mabye missed it

[hexed temple]

He did in S4

[stoic crypt]

how is the “all survivors start with one world breaker token” a green add on

[wintry nest]

ohh ty

[wintry nest]

I havent tried that addon yet but i think the use for that addon is to gain early game pressure since u only need to hit a surv once to activate worldbreaker but it resets after u take advantage of it, so it ends up cancelling itself since u need to put one more token/land one other attack to be able to use the mini mori

[icy summit]

When? He mostly just walked menacingly

Unless you mean the tentacles in which case yeah

I really wish there was more ways to prevent the clocks

[wintry nest]

the add on i was talking abt does help w that (removes one gf clock)

and theres another one that increases phase 2 by 3 seconds per living surv i believe

[wintry nest]

i think its fine for the most part because its not exactly difficult to activate and it lasts for a while

[icy summit]

Yeah thats true. Even phase 2 is like 30 seconds which is more than enough time to get a down or a couple of hits

[wintry nest]

Yup, tbh he seems far more balanced than other killer releases surprisingly 😭 (while still being a strong killer ofc)

[icy summit]

Thats why i'm worried they will nerf him into the ground

[wintry nest]

yuh

but i havent seen many ppl complaining

so im pretty confident that it will be unchanged for the most part

[stoic crypt]

it should be a iridescent

[icy summit]

Also i really wish they had just given us more skins to use during the PTB 💔

[stoic crypt]

it’s very good and saves hella time

[stoic crypt]

ur lucky we even got skins bruh

[icy summit]

No it shouldnt lmao. Its good for 1 activation of worldbreaker and then all it does is remove 1 clock

[stoic crypt]

ur funny if u think it should be green bruh, at least very rare

[icy summit]

Why? It's literally just 1 less hit needed to activate the first worldbreaker. It's not like its very op

[celest hare]

Idk if Vecna would be a better character totally rebalanced or not he'd be generic but rn it seems he's in an awkward position to just tweak a bit

[icy summit]

I think he just needs a couple of small tweaks here and there

[stoic crypt]

it allows u to save time by activating world breaker after one hit

[icy summit]

Yeah. Once. That's hardly very rare materiel.

[stoic crypt]

there are worse add ons that are purple bruh

[icy summit]

Than they should buff those ones or lower the rarity of them. No need to raise the rarity of Smashed Cassette Deck

Its a good green addon but would be a bad purple addon

[stoic crypt]

i have went against a handful of vecna and they are all running it

its a very good add on bruh, at least make it blue

i’m not saying all strong add ons should be iridescent but

[icy summit]

Blue would be a nice middle ground but i still think it's fine as a green.

[grave sandal]

Smashed cassette tape is fine honestly it's especially fine compared to something like chicken head from krasue

[icy summit]

Like i said it basically saves you 1 hit and thats it

[grave sandal]

Yep

I prefer roller skate and the electro one that gives aura reading

[celest hare]

Don't remind me of Krasue, bruh it's kinda clear gameplay wise atp BHVR's flinging shit at the wall and seeing what sticks no

[icy summit]

Vecna seems pretty balanced for the most part

[celest hare]

I loved Vecna at first but ngl think I'm starting to hate his design

Really conflicted about him lmaoo

[icy summit]

Like power design or visual design?

[stoic crypt]

yeah love him as a killer

[subtle raft]

Am I correct in assuming that my missing characters will be returned to me like nothing happened to them after the PTB is over? I did read the PTB notes about having to use what they gifted us to re-purchase characters I got on a previous console but they didn't make it clear if things would be back to normal or not. If they will go back I was going to use my cells to mess with the new skins rather than rebuy the characters I had but I wanted to ask about this before I did anything

[grave sandal]

I don't mind vecna he's just not my type of killer but i think he fits a niche for some people who do like him

[stoic crypt]

person who designed ghoul made vecna btw

[celest hare]

Power sorry, and I know if he were rebalanced he'd be boring and like a lot of other killers but ehh

[icy summit]

Yes. The PTB and base game are entirely seperate

[celest hare]

Ew...

Ugh idek I can't tell if DBD just flat out sucks atp ngl

[icy summit]

How would you rebalance him?

[celest hare]

The killer designs now, maybe it's just that they're really trying to be more unique

[icy summit]

Unique is good

[celest hare]

Yeah but bad design like Krasue isn't 🥀

[icy summit]

Is Krasue even that bad anymore???

[celest hare]

Yep body blocking is way too much of a counter, it's just design wise not strength wise

[grave sandal]

Not really if you play not in solo queue

I don't really have an issue going against any of the new killers Henry I do struggle but that's more because you need to break line of sight and sometimes they do really good reads lol

[icy summit]

Also he literally became playable yesterday lmao

[celest hare]

This is all in my imo btw but yeah lol, to make him more generic, and like slightly just guessing, they could make his vine attack more reactable (take longer) so you don't have to rely on just predicting and hoping they're not really good and will sorta hit you no matter what you do (feels like nurse a bit too much that way...), make him 4.6m/s, give him a longer cooldown for the vine attack thing, reduce the upside down emerge AOE but make it quicker maybe, erm idek

Oh a change that 100% should happen is to add a lullaby (visual heartbeat only, like victor) for the upside down travel thing

I was thinking they're going for really unique counterplay and stuff but atp I feel like it was just them not knowing what they're doing... might be wrong

[icy summit]

Making his vine attack take longer would SUCK. He's already a very high skill ceiling killer that survivors can just sidestep

[celest hare]

But like maybe make it bigger or something, irdk, I just know it's pretty much not reactable, just predictable, maybe unless you're crazy at dodging it and not caught close to the middle of it (which I think I've been decent at)

Irdkkk he just feels weird

I was thinking it's cool the counterplay is nurse-y but... starting to think it's not good for any killer to ever be that way lol

[icy summit]

It's very reactable imo. Both the killer and survivor have to be able to predict each others moves. That's the counterplay. If the killer cant predict the survivors moves but they can predict yours you just get utterly stomped

[celest hare]

My main issue is just, that it's like nurse where the really good players it feels like way too much, but it's hard to be that good

[celest hare]

It's predictable but not reactable it shows itself for like a fraction of a second before the attack happens, unlike any other thing like it

And yeah the counterplay being just predictions is cool but to me that might just make it too much like nurse

[weary pilot]

Bro you guys, window trap perk is nuts on strong main buildings or shack. I like to set it up pre-chase and then loop when I can.

[icy summit]

I just feel like making it take longer would just be too heavy of a nerf. It would be far too easy to just never get hit by the attack

[foggy badger]

purple clock

[celest hare]

It would be yeah so irdk loll

[icy summit]

Why it ourple

[hallow chasm]

It's more effective to be more patient with the vines and wait for a Survivor to go where you want them to.

[celest hare]

Maybe keep it as is but nerf the cooldown, but then it's a lot more punishing to miss. I'm kind of at a loss they just designed him really weirdly

[foggy badger]

texture gets deleted somehow during the mori lol

[weary pilot]

I've been playing against ST Vecna a ton today and what I can tell you is you absolutely need to be super unpredictable when you hear that chime. Dodge to the left, right, towards Vecna, away.

[foggy badger]

its similar to the unknown

[celest hare]

This, like it's just, it's fun at first but I'm so not sure it's a good thing it's like that

[weary pilot]

Yeah

[icy summit]

I do wish you were faster while holding m2 just so you weren't punished so heavily for trying to aim precisely during chase

[foggy badger]

imo vecna shouldnt be able to place his attack right in front of him

[foggy badger]

the point is that you have to aim quickly

[icy summit]

What?

[celest hare]

On paper I really like the sound of this

[weary pilot]

Maybe give him a super tiny deadzone (3-4m?)

[celest hare]

Precisely (it being small)

[foggy badger]

so survivors in chase can run up close to him to avoid the attack

adds counterplay at pallets similar to how unknown functions

[celest hare]

Maybe (side note) something like the size of it dynamically increases and decreases slightly depending on the distance, idea I have no idea is good or not what do you guys think lmao

[icy summit]

Ehhh its way easier to miss the attack directly in front of you anyways

[foggy badger]

Its hard bc its incredibly balanced at its current size.. any smaller it would be almost impossible to hit, any bigger it would be almost impossible to dodge

[icy summit]

Exactly. Thats why i feel like he's in a good state right now. Maybe if anything just a slight cooldown between each m2

[foggy badger]

also it feels better to always know the size of it

[icy summit]

And i mean SLIGHT

[foggy badger]

I think it should have a bigger cooldown while worldbreaker is in phase 2

[celest hare]

I mean it decreases if it's close to Vecna but increases if it's further away, just a bit

[icy summit]

The problem with that is it's ridiculously easy to get to phase 2. Like 90% of all worldbreakers are like 10 seconds of phase 1 and then boom phase 2

[celest hare]

I really don't fw Vecna rn like I did at first lol

[foggy badger]

Phase 1 is when survivors can interact with the clocks

Phase 2 is the last quarter of the clock duration when they cant anymore

[icy summit]

I know

[foggy badger]

Maybe increase the cooldown outside of phase 1

[icy summit]

Yeah maybe. I still think it should just be a slight cooldown though. Not too big

I wish there was more counterplay to the clock though. You cant really do anything about them because you dont know where they are, and they progress so quick that if you do manage to find the survivor on the clock its already phase 2

[celest hare]

Yeah I'll just see how he releases, they designed him in such a weird way

He kind of feels like Krasue level flop

[icy summit]

He really isnt that bad imo

He's pretty balanced

[celest hare]

Maybee ¯_(ツ)_/¯

[icy summit]

You probably just need to get used to him. He did just become playable

[celest hare]

I played a heap of matches

Against bad Vecnas which get shit on even worse than equally bad nurses, and good Vecnas but maybe not crazy good Vecnas because it seems when they're just really really good they're able to hit you with the vine attack very often, which is where he feels unbalanced

[fluid fern]

incorrect

[celest hare]

And it's not just strength it's just how weird he feels and how hard it seems he is to balance how he is rn

[grave sandal]

Krasue was way worse than this it's way too early to say with vecna the only thing I thought was wild was the no cooldown on m2

[celest hare]

I don't mean strength necessarily

That no cooldown is what reminded me of Krasue, atp I kinda feel like bhvr just barely knows what they're doing tryna keep it unique or something

I'll shut up and wait for live tho or see if I change my mind. I still think people really good at Vecna end up showing how overtuned parts are and his design's weird as a whole to me

[icy summit]

Theres barely any cooldown but its also really easy to just not hit

[grave sandal]

Krasue doesn't really have cooldown on anything

[celest hare]

Man even springtrap with the doors having a battery mechanic for a power not worth interacting with, when the games literally use it most importantly to lock doors. Think bhvr's kinda lost it power design wise lol

[grave sandal]

Venca tho that cooldown on his gate attack is massive for an attack that isn't super easy to hit once people know

[celest hare]

That's also again where it's weird to me, the mind game it's like a gamble

[icy summit]

Frrr

[celest hare]

I really liked the weirdness at first

[grave sandal]

Springtrap his issue is he is designed around his doors and there is no real reason for people to interact with them making him just be funny axe man

[celest hare]

-# ||I said I'd shut up and didn't 👋🤣||

[icy summit]

https://tenor.com/view/im-the-fun-one-springtrap-fnaf-field-outside-gif-10848856115445480049

[celest hare]

Things like you being able to see him tping to you IMMEDIATELY but only very useful if rng makes the door face the gen you should be on, and only if you know about it. Just so weird the killer powers nowadays

Great in parts, kinda lol

Should've made the doors lockable 😐 (and balanced around it)

[icy summit]

Only time i've ever used a door as a survivor (I rarely play survivor tbf) was during egc where someone was hooked across the map and while someone was distracting the Springtrap i unhooked and we all got out

[icy summit]

Literally this

[grave sandal]

Yeah and it's them moments that feel great but your average map people just sit on gens since the doors just don't have a reason to exist

[icy summit]

It feels like the first part of worldbreaker just doesnt matter 90% of the time

[grave sandal]

Yeah

Every game I was in phase 2 all the time the only time I wasn't was when 2 survivors were dead

[hallow chasm]

What if it required all 4 clocks to be interacted with before the first phase can be sped up?

[icy summit]

That would be cool but perhaps TOO strong considering how easy it is to enter worldbreaker and how long phase 1 actually is. I just wish there was more counterplay to the clocks themselves.

[foggy badger]

you guys are never happy omg

[hallow chasm]

Allow Vecna to destroy one clock to temporarily disable it for one Worldbreaker use, and it will only turn back on during the next Worldbreaker activation?

[grave sandal]

I genuinely do want to play him on release and see how it goes I'm just surprised we got zero bug fixes this patch

[icy summit]

I honestly think the best thing would be just allowing him to see the clocks

[celest hare]

You're allowed to have valid takes lmao

[hallow chasm]

What about the speed up bonus is lessened to encourage more Survivors to find the other clocks?

[celest hare]

Trust me I'm happy with good changes, and I was happy with Vecna at first despite him seeming op with the first stream I saw

[foggy badger]

he really isnt that bad though 😭 his power is fun and unique

[icy summit]

That would be a good as well

[celest hare]

Yes unique but idk if that's a good thing or even what they were going for, with how the counterplay ended up and stuff

[icy summit]

This ☝️

[foggy badger]

idk why ur calling him a flop within a day of the PTB releasing

[grave sandal]

This I like

[foggy badger]

what if clocks were less effective the more often theyre used

[celest hare]

I'm not a whiner, I'm saying like Krasue it feels like he'll flop because they don't seem to know what they're doing, I also said I could be wrong. I didn't say it as a fact
Krasue also had no cooldown on abilities that usually would, etc

[grave sandal]

He isn't a flop even tho he's not my type of killer I genuinely want to try him out more

[icy summit]

But literally all that needs to happen is to make him see the clocks so that when its being used he can actually FIND the clock and stop it

[hallow chasm]

That's just a copy of old Freddy where the wake up interaction between Survivors takes longer each time it's done.

[foggy badger]

connection ≠ copy

[grave sandal]

That also could work and is pretty sweet

[foggy badger]

Also it would go back to normal over time

Just saying it encourages different survivors to use the clocks each time

[celest hare]

But he's ST Vecna so maybe he'd* still be relatively popular despite it

[hallow chasm]

What about Vecna covering the clocks in vines with his Undergate or standard M2, requiring Survivors to do a short interaction of tearing away the vines before the clock can be used?

[strong hemlock]

is there any perk that would let me rekindle the totem that vecna's hive mind perk creates?

[icy summit]

Pentimento is the only rekindle perk but it wont be the hive mind totem anymore

[grave sandal]

That could be cool too it would just be hard since yk can't see the clocks auras

[strong hemlock]

ah that sucks

[celest hare]

Wouldn't undying work?

[hallow chasm]

What if phase 1 was half of the clock instead of 3 quarters?

[foggy badger]

This killer has literally everything i like, I genuinely might main him when he releases... most of the time I uninstall the PTB the day after its released after trying it for a bit, only time ive come back

My mains rn are spirit, artist, onryo, and executioner, this killer feels

like it has a lot of stuff from those 3 but is still unique

[grave sandal]

I like it but maybe make the interaction longer just to make up for the loss of the tiny bit of slow down

[icy summit]

I think we are getting into the too punishing category. I think the most balanced way would just make clocks visble. It allows you to stop a clock from being worked on and if the team is good then another teammate can take the place and start a different clock

The main issue with doing stuff like making the second phase longer, ect. Is that its very easy to get into worldbreaker mode and you are very powerful during it

So something that can just slightly increase the time you are in it would be good and balanced

[wintry nest]

the thing that keeps vecna balanced is the fact that hes a 4 hit down killer(usually), thats why hes not op

[hallow chasm]

He's a two hit down Killer if you drop chase with the Survivor you got tokens off of to focus on someone else during Worldbreaker.

[wintry nest]

you still need 2 hits tho

idk im just fine with his design

[blazing venture]

idk vecna doesnt really need any buffs

[fluid fern]

you're actually stupid if you believe this

[wintry nest]

i use pp head a lot so predictions are not an issue for me

[fluid fern]

you floor snot to a gen, and hit one person, then nurse blink 2 times

this killer is braindead to play

[grave sandal]

He just needs some slight tweaks he's not op

[icy summit]

I'm mostly just thinking of a way to counter clocks. That being just make them visible to you.

[wintry nest]

undergate attacks are the easiest attack to dodge in the entire game

[fluid fern]

no

[foggy badger]

??? theyre kind of right. Hes a two hit down killer unless survivors do the clocks, its so incredibly punishing to allow phase 1 to happen that a survivor is completely forced off of a gen each time

I think Phase 1 is way too punishing, and his attack cooldown is way too short

[fluid fern]

it is unavoidable. if it doesnt land its because the vecna missed, not because its avoidable

[wintry nest]

loud af and creates a ton of distance even if hit

[icy summit]

https://tenor.com/view/skill-issue-gif-3836540956679717108

[wintry nest]

even in indoor maps i alr know when vecna is coming, also he makes a sound cueue when he enters undergate

[foggy badger]

There should be a reasonable option for survivors strategically to allow vecna his power in order to do gens in desperate situations, there currently isnt one

[foggy badger]

this is quite literally a skill issue 😭

[grave sandal]

The gate attack is actually easy to avoid you legit can walk back into him and still escape it

[blazing venture]

i mean sure it woudlnt really matter but why do you wanna push someone off the clock, whenever you are activating worldbreaker you're already in chase, so unless you get the down immediately and go to stop them you don't really have time to, also just like. hook the person you downed? idk it seems like it wouldnt really be helpful but sure i guess

[wintry nest]

undergate attack is only good after zoning, its a zoning tool and its not even that good at that, i mostly use it for map traversal

[blazing venture]

Undergate is good for zoning and you can occasionally get a hit in some spots

[icy summit]

I can see what you mean but it would still be a nice change imo

Currently theres not much you can actually do about the clocks because you have no idea where they are

[grave sandal]

It good on indoor maps I found

[foggy badger]

I dont think "countering" clocks should be a thing... the goal of vecna isnt to keep your power active, its to use your power to its fullest ability before it ends

[blazing venture]

yeah i wouldnt really be opposed to it i just think it doesnt really matter

[wintry nest]

exactly

phase 2 takes forever to end so it doesnt matter if phase 1 last like 10 secs

[icy summit]

I still think it would be nice to have

[foggy badger]

I think my issues with vecna are that Phase 1 is too punishing for survivors to reasonably allow vecna to have the extra time without it screwing everyone over

[fluid fern]

on the part of the Vecna

[stiff mulch]

apparently you can flashlight save against vecnas mori? I didnt even realize I did it if this is the case

[foggy badger]

A survivor always HAS to do the clocks or the team is completely screwed

[fluid fern]

that attack should land every time

if you are mssing, it is becuase you arent being patient enough

[wintry nest]

ive never had a problem with the clock but i can see how its punishing

[blazing venture]

yeah lol, how long is it with 4 survs alive?

[fluid fern]

the only true counter to it is SB

[blazing venture]

the upside down or his m2

[stiff mulch]

5 minutes straight of power is crazy work after all

[wintry nest]

all things considered undergate isnt that bad, it just depends on both sides skill

[icy summit]

wait phase 1 is 5 MINUTES????

[blazing venture]

because yeah if vecnas are patient and wait for you to be animation locked and just zone you until that you can't do much

[stiff mulch]

both can be confirmed with no way to dodge if used correctly

[blazing venture]

i think thats an exageration but its fucking LONG dude

[stiff mulch]

yeah that shit moves outrageously slow, the clocks arent optional ya know

[wintry nest]

i mean everyone is trying vecna out after all sooo, theyll get a lot better

[quiet geyser]

Not really. M2 is pretty hard to dodge but upside down they can easily dodge

[foggy badger]

yes this is my issue, the clocks should be optional

[blazing venture]

how can the upside down attack be used?

[grave sandal]

You pretty much are forced to use the clocks if you want a chance

[wintry nest]

undergate is strong but it has counterplay(the very obvious sound cueue which if im not wronf its directional not stereo)

[stiff mulch]

if there are any walls you can just force them to kill their own momentum and then they wont be quick enough to escape once you undergate attack

[blazing venture]

I feel like making the clocks a good idea to use it awesome but i do feel like its less of a good idea and more of a neccasity rn

[stiff mulch]

certain generators too are put on tiles that make the undergate physically impossible to escape

[quiet geyser]

They know the counterplay bro they will just keep running back and fourth and than hold w to escape

[icy summit]

I wish i was going against ya'll who say his m2 is hard or impossible to dodge instead of all the survivors who easily sidestep every m2 💔

[quiet geyser]

Just m1 and fake m2

[blazing venture]

use your power to zone them till they are animation locked

[icy summit]

But m2 faking is so borriinnggg

[wintry nest]

as i said i play a lot of pp head(on nintendo mind you) so idk how ppl view ranged attacks like that in a difficulty aspect

[blazing venture]

agreed lol, but thats how a good amount of vecnas are gonna play lol

[foggy badger]

Just circle underneath the survivor until they lose their running momentum then emerge from under them, a lot of the time they cant get away if theyve stopped running

Which is why if you are facing against this as a survivor, you have to keep your momentum

[wintry nest]

why would you ever m2 fake im crine

[quiet geyser]

This is actually crazy how people r saying vecna is broken like bruh. No he isn't. He is A+ tier at best.

If he was 4.6 than he would be really S tier

[wintry nest]

agreed

[quiet geyser]

It never works for me man. They always dodge my undergate attacks

[wintry nest]

but the community seems p calm to me compared to other releases

[quiet geyser]

True let's hope they don't kill this killer at release

[icy summit]

Community actually being resonable for the most part :O

[wintry nest]

i mean undergate has to be hard to hit by design since it activates worldbreaker no matter what

[icy summit]

Does it?

[wintry nest]

preach

[grave sandal]

Yeah it does

[quiet geyser]

Yeah I use it for mobility anyway

[wintry nest]

same

[stiff mulch]

By which to watch them wither?

[grave sandal]

It adds 2 tokens

[foggy badger]

it adds 2 tokens

[blazing venture]

it gives 2 stacks

[wintry nest]

undergate attacks add 2 wb tokens

[stiff mulch]

What tool to unravel them?

[icy summit]

Oh wow didnt know that

[quiet geyser]

Using the upside for mobility is better than trying and wasting your time to land the attack

[foggy badger]

jinx x4

[stiff mulch]

Let us test their constitution.

[icy summit]

https://tenor.com/view/licherally-vecna-vecna-dbd-vecna-dnd-lich-gif-2789281111495645036

[blazing venture]

better used for zoning

[icy summit]

Like the crows....

[wintry nest]

undergate can be op in indoor maps imo

[stiff mulch]

I might deadass just start playing the wrong vecna on the PTB for laughs

[quiet geyser]

Yes it is. It's super hard to dodge there

[blazing venture]

its nasty on that loop on rpd near the hook in courtyard

[icy summit]

WAIT THATS AN AMAZING IDEA

I played a single game of Demogorgon yesterday lmao

[wintry nest]

welp, at least hes got potential

[blazing venture]

my friend did that it was silly

[stiff mulch]

im pissed they added chucky to 2v8, like who wants chucky dawg
add lich, add "the first" add demogorgon add some killer that isnt lame as fuck

[icy summit]

Gonna play DnD Vecna and then in end game chat just ask "So how do ya'll enjoy the new killer Vecna?"

[quiet geyser]

Hold up, shouldn't they buff demo?

[wintry nest]

chucky sucks i only use tiffany

[stiff mulch]

"hey. pal. you just blow in from stupid town?"

[icy summit]

Yes. They should. Maybe even rework him tbh

[wintry nest]

i love demo in his current state i main him but i wouldnt mind a buff

[stiff mulch]

thats another thing I fucking hate playing against chucky but if its tiffany I dont care

[stiff mulch]

iri addon for a second shred like henry creel

[wintry nest]

tiff just built better

[icy summit]

Jennifer Tilly ❤️

[wintry nest]

acc its better if they rework demo

[quiet geyser]

Yeah rework would be better

[stiff mulch]

shred fits as his power but it needs BIG BIG Changes

firstly shred should not be a confirmed flashlight blind, like what the actual fuck is that

[wintry nest]

his power is like too restrictive i feel in the sense that you cant change it a lot

[quiet geyser]

For real get punished for using power

[icy summit]

His portal also need big changes. He should also be able to turn during shread imo

[quiet geyser]

The teleports r also weak

[wintry nest]

yeah i just dont see how they can buff the portals

[icy summit]

Springtrap style auto spawn around the map

[wintry nest]

just make them static like weve been saying for 5 years

[quiet geyser]

That would be really good giving him camera control during shred

[stiff mulch]

if pig and myers can do it he should be able too aswell 🙁
I think it could be cool though if hes like blight but its just 1 lethal rush with slight turning and less stun afterwards

[wintry nest]

you mean xenomorph style

[stoic crypt]

he should have 4 portals placed on the map when the match begins

[foggy badger]

bro these 4 people dced literally 30 seconds into the match bc i downed the girl trying to blind me with her flashlight 🤦‍♂️ why do ppl ragequit so easily

[icy summit]

Also PLEASE MAKE BLACK HEART AND BARBS GLASSES BASEKIT ALREADY

[wintry nest]

PLS. IM TIRED OF RUNNING THE SAME 2 ADD ONS EVERY MATCH

[fluid fern]

the bots are bugged

[grave sandal]

Feel just like on live lol

[fluid fern]

they will literally do nothing if someone DCs

[icy summit]

At least they are low rarity so you wont run out 😔

[quiet geyser]

It's crazy how it says escape when they abandoned 🤧

[fluid fern]

they run around in circles edgemap and just do the clocks

[wintry nest]

yuh

[foggy badger]

I made a rework idea for most of demo's addons if ya wanna see

[fluid fern]

if one person DCs the entire team should just leave

[stiff mulch]

portals should be silent(if pre opened), undetectable should be 15s basekit, portals should be always visible, pre placed, or able to be placed whilst in the upside down, allowing you to emerge anywhere but it would take a fat load of time to rip through the ground letting survivors prerun, sorta like dredge on a locked locker, once a portal is opened it can be sealed like normal but if unsealed you can travel through it super quickly like you can now

i think this would be a good fine change for demogorgon

[wintry nest]

i feel like demo could work as a rush down killer or whatever its called

[grave sandal]

Btw did anyone encounter a really rare soft lock with the undergate attack

[stiff mulch]

this guy hopped out of walls he was stealthy asf

[icy summit]

Demogorgon and Spirit have the problem of having 2 addons so good and essential that there's really no reason you wouldn't use them

[wintry nest]

yeah leprose liechen is one of my faves for that (or was it red moss i forgot)

[stiff mulch]

undetectable addon for demogorgon should be basekit and its iridescent instead

[wintry nest]

exactly

[quiet geyser]

Demo is like C tier right now?

[wintry nest]

teacup spirit is so good its not even funny

[stiff mulch]

bottom of c tier probably

[stoic crypt]

his anti loop is fine ish

[wintry nest]

demo is like right in the middle i feel, like its always been

[quiet geyser]

Hmm

[foggy badger]

I also think if demo holds down shred while traversing through a portal, that portal he enters gets destroyed

[icy summit]

Yeah you could maybe go without a speed addon. But going without rusty flute on Spirit is just insane

[stiff mulch]

of the abyss should be 102.5% not 96.5% either

[wintry nest]

felt that pain

[stiff mulch]

no reason for shred to make you move at nurse speeds when its a free stun for survivors

[icy summit]

15 second cooldown without rusty flute 💔

[wintry nest]

with demo you will eventually catch up, in a long loop ur always getting hit with a competent demo

[icy summit]

Also every time i open the game and see ST Vecna it's so fucking surreal

I can still hardly believe it

[stiff mulch]

you know what, fuck it, make demo a 4.68m/s killer, I genuinely think It would be fine

[wintry nest]

hes just like that

[wintry nest]

why do i not hate the idea lol

[stiff mulch]

cuz dracula can do it and hardly anyone bitches about that

[quiet geyser]

But the name is so lame. They should have named him the sorcerer or something.

[icy summit]

The Sorcerer is Will

[wintry nest]

the first is tuff tho

[stiff mulch]

so they cant cry about this either

@quiet geyser DnD vecna shouldve been the sorcerer

[wintry nest]

i always forget about that 💔

[icy summit]

Nahhh the Lich is perfect for DnD Vecna

[quiet geyser]

I know that. But the first sound so cringe idk why

[stiff mulch]

they shouldve named Henry creel "The Vine guy"

[wintry nest]

The Whatzit

[icy summit]

I still think The Curse would have been sick

[stiff mulch]

its cuz first doesnt fit the theme of a killer

[icy summit]

https://tenor.com/view/stranger-things-stranger-things-5-tani-st-season-5-gif-4112449735394721029

[quiet geyser]

Especially not someone like HENRY!

[stiff mulch]

you can get horror out of any other killer name
cannibal, pig, shape, cenobite, legion, plague, blah blah blah

but not first

[wintry nest]

i hate when you cant react to comments in these channels, oh well

[stiff mulch]

like the shape sounds spooky asf(rip the shape)

[quiet geyser]

It matches myers tho

[icy summit]

I know a lot of people like it but i also think The One sounds equally as bad as The First. Sorry not sorry.

[stiff mulch]

but now everyone has "See how they run" "down to the last" "will to live" for free

[quiet geyser]

“Evil never dies, it changes shape"

[wintry nest]

the one sounds so corny icl

[stiff mulch]

She's just a girl that says that I am the one

[wintry nest]

I think the flayed could work

[icy summit]

https://tenor.com/view/the-one-he-is-the-one-gif-14744864

[stiff mulch]

The Flayer

its not too late to change ur shitty terrible names this update behavior!!!!

[wintry nest]

i read the blender

[stoic crypt]

the first is lowkey tuff but it should have been the curse for sure

[stiff mulch]

The first
down to the last, see how they run, cull the weak
bound by obsession, will to live, keep them waiting for last

KEEP THEM WAITING FOR LAST

KEEP THEM WAITING FOR LAST?!?! HOLY SHIT

ITS SO ASS

[icy summit]

This irrationally annoys me but i hate the implication that during the scene this quote was from it isn't the mindflayer talking but is just Henry. Thats just so much less interesting 😭

[wintry nest]

keep them waiting for last sounds so weird

[stiff mulch]

it doesnt even make sense henry is literally from here

speaking from the perspective of a foreigner

[icy summit]

EXACTLYYYY

[wintry nest]

Also didnt pinheads perks name sound attrocious before they changed them or was it a fake leak (when they became universal)

[stiff mulch]

and henry wasnt let in, the rift was created by him being banished

[icy summit]

Wait is that the full name???

[wintry nest]

yes

[stiff mulch]

yes, thats save the best for last

See how they run... young tomura

[icy summit]

I thought the name was just keep them waiting. Not keep them waiting for last

[foggy badger]

shoulda called him The Defiler or sumn wouldve been cooler 😔

[stiff mulch]

plaything/fortunes fool
deadlock/ no holds barred
gift of pain/ weeping wounds

[stiff mulch]

uh they should NOT call him the defiler 😭

we already have freddy that makes no sense to call him that

[foggy badger]

i was joking chill

[stiff mulch]

change vecna to the nightmare and freddy to the defiler

[icy summit]

Do ya'll think they'll unkillswitch the forgotten ruins maps by the chapter release 🥀

[stiff mulch]

nvm

[wintry nest]

acc no i just remembered they were placeholder names

[stiff mulch]

I was thinking of the other one

[icy summit]

Ahhh i think Borgo is available but forgotten ruins isn't

[stiff mulch]

people really hate that map though for some reason, I like it, it has character

[wintry nest]

borgo is in fact available, at least in the live game

[icy summit]

The portals do kinda suck lmao

[stiff mulch]

the thing is theres only 2 unique maps and theyre haddonfield and forgotten ruins, with both gone every match is literally the same thing

[wintry nest]

forgotten ruins can stay killswitched for all i care, hate that map, even if it looks cool

[celest hare]

I reckon Nancy's new model/animations are near spot on but just realised, think her eyelashes should be a little bit more prominent (kinda nitpicky but I think it'd make a significant difference)

[icy summit]

I think the map might be unkillswitched in the PTB. It's available in custom games

[stiff mulch]

why cant they just rename haddonfield to hadnotfield and repaint it for it to not be copyright

[wintry nest]

haddonfield is unique how

[stiff mulch]

cant be a real question

[icy summit]

It's literally just the lobby tbh. It does her so dirty

[wintry nest]

nvm 😭

[stiff mulch]

were you thinking of a different map?

[celest hare]

Agree to disagree 🫡

[wintry nest]

i thought that garden of joy had more houses for like 2 secs

[stiff mulch]

just the big one and shack

[wintry nest]

ye

[stiff mulch]

haddonfield has 4 houses 2 sheds and a big area of side by side tiles in the middle, its fun and now its gone...

they better make a new map that plays like haddonfield and is similar

[wintry nest]

💔

[stiff mulch]

that or buff Dead dawg saloon to 25% chance until then

[wintry nest]

I always talked sh about haddonfield ngl

[stiff mulch]

i hope you regret it

[wintry nest]

not at all

[stiff mulch]

im gonna download a old version of DBD

where pinhead is still available and haddonfield is still in game, so like from 1 year ago

[wintry nest]

we still got badham even if it sucks too

[stiff mulch]

i like badham but I never see it

[wintry nest]

fr

[stiff mulch]

also people call badham extremely survivor sided, and I wont deny the loops for survivors are strong, but badham has the most insane 3 gen in existance( and it always spawns in its static)

[wintry nest]

unbalanced maps are always fun smh

[wintry nest]

depends on the variation

are u talking about the solo gen in the house with the garage or

[stiff mulch]

one there, one right in front of it and one right on the side of it, you can catch literally all of them in a weave attunements range

[wintry nest]

yuh i remember now

[stiff mulch]

i had to play against an unknown with that shit and it was so cancer

match genuinely went on for 22 minutes at 1 gen

then I just DC'd cause I got bored, let a bot handle it but not giving it to the killer for free

[icy summit]

God Vecna is actually insanely fun. I really hope they dont gut him

[stiff mulch]

i know I love playing lich

[icy summit]

I too love playing Lich

[stiff mulch]

but they already gutted mage hand sorry to tell ya

[fathom widget]

I play a lotta lich and his mage hand is still decent if you know what you are doing

[icy summit]

yeah

[fathom widget]

Trickster glove can give you a hit

0.3s can make a difference on some loops

[icy summit]

I'm partly a Lich main. I say partly because i havent played him in a while :(

[fathom widget]

Theres a guy that mains vecna and he knows how to do techs that look cool and theres spin cast

[icy summit]

He sounds like a refined gentlman

[fathom widget]

I dont know how he does the animation cancels with the spells though

[stiff mulch]

i hate that they cheaped out by making 2 survivor perks completely identical this update though

[fathom widget]

It like looks like he cancels spell but it still activates and looks lanky but I think it removes some slowdown

[fathom widget]

Yeah its a classic bhvr thing

[icy summit]

Yeah. Spancelling. Only spell i can really do it on is FOTD

[stiff mulch]

full circuit and soft spoken are the exact same thing, nobodies using them for quieter repair sounds and bigger good skill checks

[fathom widget]

They made 2 good perks but then 3rd perk is just copy paste slop

[stiff mulch]

just a 4x worse version of prove thyself

[icy summit]

Yeah. They are extremely mid. Even the 5% is just worse Deja Vu

[fathom widget]

I guess same thing with chem trap on window but it does have a different model

[stiff mulch]

and yes it is 4x worse, even more worse if theres 3 people on a gen

[celest hare]

What they should do is phase out the 3 perks per character thing and make it 2

[icy summit]

At least the killers perks are good

[fathom widget]

Does it fully remove the repair penalty if you pair it with provethyself

[stiff mulch]

the teamwork perks are 5% only to you
prove thyself is 20% total with 2 people, 60% with 3 people, 120% with 4 people

[celest hare]

I think so

[fathom widget]

Hyperfocus prove thyself stake out fogwise builds?

Oh wait nvm

Can't even fit both well without sacrificing

[celest hare]

I hope they fix Eleven and Robin's voices puhleaaase

[stiff mulch]

overzealous works alone and is twice the buff of a teamwork perk, but if you cant find totems just use elevens perk extrasensory perception

[fathom widget]

Have to dump stake out or fogwise

[stiff mulch]

theres no reason to use the new teamwork perks
and I see a bunch of killer mains crying "waa waa, more genrushing perks" anybody using these is shooting themselves in the foot

just take hyperfocus stakeout and in 1 skill check you save twice the amount of time the teamwork perks woulda saved you, and you can do it ALONE

[fathom widget]

Yeah the new killer gen perk removes ever needing to use pop

[icy summit]

Or literally just take Deja vu lmao

[stiff mulch]

hyperfocus stakeout deja vu, resilience overzealous, so many better options

[fathom widget]

Also gen block builds are gonna be really fun with a lotta killers with constant undetectable

[stiff mulch]

personally ive been using

Overzealous, Inner strength/Balanced landing , extrasensory perception, shadowstep

[fathom widget]

Hillbilly with silent saw will see a lot more use

[icy summit]

Oni with Secret Project and Corrupt Intervention

[stiff mulch]

grim embrace deadlock thrilling tremors any of those with secret project is fucking busted, and people are calling this update extremely survivor sided

[stiff mulch]

yeah and lethal thats just free power instantly

[fathom widget]

How are they saying its survivor sided with no major changes in patch

No buffs or nerfs really anywhere

[stiff mulch]

cuz of the two teamwork perks being "insane for genrushing"

[fathom widget]

Lol

[stiff mulch]

like its 5% are we really this much of crybabies

5% and to use it you need to put a 30% penalty on your generator too

[fathom widget]

And its more efficient not stacking on gens

[stiff mulch]

i honeslty pray people use these perks when im killer cuz itll make this shit so easy

[fathom widget]

Shame the surv mains will nerf vecna2 to obscurity like krasue

[icy summit]

Thank GOD Behavior didnt try shoving more anti tunneling changes into this ptb 🙏

[fathom widget]

Because devs hold their hand way too much

[stiff mulch]

bada bada boom is a decent perk, but it really only counters bambam killers like bubba, otherwise killers hardly vault windows

[fathom widget]

They gonna look at game one of otz and how he got downs so fast and said how undergate is unavoidable

[stiff mulch]

krasue was entirely the fault of killer players imo

[fathom widget]

How

[stiff mulch]

they called her shit in the PTB and then she got buffed to being easily the best killer in the game

[icy summit]

Literally already happening 💔

[stiff mulch]

and then they made her so unbelievably fucking overpowered that they had to gut her cuz they got scared

[fathom widget]

Definitely wasn't above nurse

[stiff mulch]

krasue is still A tier btw people just dont play her because shes not a free win

[icy summit]

They said she was clunky in the PTB. Which she was. Then Behavior overbuffed her to extreme levels

[stiff mulch]

I heavily disagree

[fathom widget]

Nurse was still stronger if only slightly

[stiff mulch]

then its BHVRs fault, not survivors, the survivor complaints about krasue were 100% valid

[fathom widget]

The issue was it being hard to mess up, less precision needed than nurse

[icy summit]

Do ya'll think Krasue is in a good place right now?

[fathom widget]

Less skill needed but assuming you were top level nurse you'd do better than top level krasue

[stiff mulch]

she had nemesis whip a better traversal then blight, the ability to down survivors just as quickly as nurse, could tunnel even quicker then nurse, a passive slowdown that could not be ignored without getting fucked

[celest hare]

The way she's designed still makes body blocking way too strong of a counter

[stiff mulch]

I do, she performs pretty solidly in chase

[icy summit]

Like HER body blocking?

[stiff mulch]

land 1 spit then get permanent t1 bloodlust in headmode with a improved lunge

[fathom widget]

I never see krasue played ever since nerfs

But i have been playing lots of killer too

[stiff mulch]

people only used her because her appeal was free wins

[icy summit]

I never see Krasue players (I very rarely play Survivor)

[stiff mulch]

now that you actually have to plan instead of turning your brain off people dont want to play krasue

[fathom widget]

Free wins? Sounds like other killers on release 😆

[stiff mulch]

bodyblocking should still be a better counter against krasue then other killers, because of how high her chase potential is

but I agree it can be way too powerful with people being able to take 4 whole hits, it should be reduced to 2 before infection

[fathom widget]

Wasn't ghoul day one better than krasue or nah

[stiff mulch]

no

[fathom widget]

Even with tech?

[stiff mulch]

ghoul was hardly even touched anyways, they patched a bug and people called it a nerf

[stiff mulch]

kidnap tech was an exploit not a tech

[icy summit]

I wonder if there will ever be a point where people stop complaining about Ghoul

[stiff mulch]

no because apparently his free hit is somehow any different from legions or plagues

[fathom widget]

Didn't the devs say it wasnt exploit cuz that means you can get banned for it?

[stiff mulch]

freezing survivors in place while you break a pallet is bug abuse, which is by definition an exploit, that doesnt mean people should be banned for it though

[fathom widget]

And then like theres nem tech but did we ever know if that was intentional?

Or the not very impactful legion blind tech

So would that not be bug abuse there too?

[stiff mulch]

I dont know what they are or how they function, couldnt tell ya

[fathom widget]

I view exploit more like the locker in 2v8 where you couldn't grab a survivor or rpd hook

[icy summit]

You could get on the locker and grab them though

[fathom widget]

Was tedious though

[icy summit]

Yeah it's about as tedious as getting holed

[fathom widget]

With the rpd hook one at least

And there was other ones with collision

[stiff mulch]

cancels his frenzy but he doesnt get stunned for it, if blinding him normally cancels his power I dont see how its a bug, but I dont play legion so I wouldnt know

[fathom widget]

Right but its unknown if that was ever a bug or just a mechanic intended

Becuase other killer powers do not work like that

[stiff mulch]

fat shame hook tech is entirely on behavior

theres 2 of those on RPD btw, one on the west wing terrace and the only in the first room to the left of the main enterance

I view these as exploiting yes but not things people should be banned for, just dont feel accomplished or proud of yourself afterwards and im all good with it

[fathom widget]

You know im quite glad haddonfield is getting removed (probably will be added back later just like stranger things) cuz that map was always unbalanced

[stiff mulch]

haddonfield is quite fine right now as far as balance goes

[fathom widget]

Either survivor or killer sided with no in between. The current we have is better balanced but theres still killers that just ignore everything and make it feel just the same

Yeah rn is the best we have it but still needs a little bit more imo.

But of course wont matter cuz ittl be gone.

[celest hare]

Uninfected survivors coming in to body block basically forces her out of her head form

[fathom widget]

They just need to finally rework badham

[stiff mulch]

if nurse blinks through a wall she should have her power recharge way slower and her recoil increased heavily, because with aura perks she literally has 0 weaknesses other than slow map coverage (campbells last breath completely negates this fact btw)

[fathom widget]

Badham has just been the same forever and always a good survivor kap

[stiff mulch]

also takes people off of gens though

[fathom widget]

I think on indoor maps vecna would actually be the best killer in the game with this cuz blight struggles a lot on maps like Hawkins lab

[icy summit]

Nurse has a huge glaring weakness. Me. I'm the weakness.

[fathom widget]

Nurse would struggle a crap ton with maps that have walls going through every second

[icy summit]

I legit dont think i've gotten a single indoor map as Vecna 💀

[fathom widget]

Oh mb

Vecna2 is what I am referring to

[stiff mulch]

she could just land her hits instead of whiffing, that would help, I could see lerys being a bitch but theres also a lot of hallways one could just teleport through

[fathom widget]

Henryyyyyyyy

[fathom widget]

Wdym like an auto attack?

[stiff mulch]

besides everyone else has to navigate through lerys walls she doesnt need to be even stronger by having the right to bypass them when travelling entirely

[icy summit]

Vecna and Vecman

[fathom widget]

Guys its gonna be fire with Vecna and Vecna in 2v8

[icy summit]

I really need Vecna in 2v8 🙏

[stiff mulch]

no? recoil is practically non existant if nurse lands a hit so this change wouldnt affect her if she lands her hits

someone ask him which vecna, quick

[fathom widget]

Wait so you mean if she blinks through walls and whiffs its a longer cd?

[stiff mulch]

yes so you can make distance

[celest hare]

I really hope they add a lullaby for the upside down travelling mode, just like bat form and victor

At a fair range

[stiff mulch]

that shit is loud you can hear it from 24m away

[fathom widget]

I suppose that would be a fair nerf, just don't know how much that would change things overall with the top level nurses

[celest hare]

Accessibility bruh 😭 I even gave examples cmon

[fathom widget]

You can also see the black sludge too right

[icy summit]

Yeah

[stiff mulch]

it is like those though, it makes a noise mapwide when he enters it, and you can hear tumbling stones when hes within 24m in that form

[fathom widget]

Vecna 2 hackers be placing vines on everyone killing them within 10s of match starting 💀

[icy summit]

I do think they need to lower the volume of sound while traveling in the upside down and lower the volume of the chase music

[celest hare]

Exactly so a lullaby makes perfect sense

[stiff mulch]

everyonehates the chase music and I love it

[icy summit]

It's just a bit too loud atm

[fathom widget]

I think hackers have a new fastest way to kill the lobby with vecna 2 if they didnt have other current hacking options that detect it

[celest hare]

I love it too, not entirely sure it's fitting for the character/show but I think it is? Iirc the soundtrack for s4 and 5 surprised me

[stiff mulch]

we all running keep them waiting for last on the first right?

[fathom widget]

Also I still think you get a message for dying too fast to hackers and get a penalty

[stiff mulch]

no penalties in test server, I DC so much its so liberating

[icy summit]

Its definitely less fitting for Vecna than Demogorgons chase theme was for it which sucks :(

[stiff mulch]

it sounds really good with worldbreaker mode though imo

[fathom widget]

Right but im saying when on live I think survivor gets immediate penalty. I wonder what the hacks will be like for vecna2, guess ill have to look at voidtodos or trolling prophet day one just to see what to look out for

[icy summit]

Only time i've dced was when i got permanently stuck in the ground playing Vecna 💀

[stiff mulch]

honestly I feel Vecna would make a great addition to 2v8 but idk about Vecna, I mean Vecna is cool but Vecna is way better. Plus Vecna has a better kit than Vecna, as well idk how 8 survivors will do against Vecna. Vecna on the other hand is amazing.

[stiff mulch]

well thats different ur on killer, I play survivor so I can just find another match in 12 seconds

[fathom widget]

Lol and vecna has that cool hand

The hand that prevents the survivor from doing the thing

[icy summit]

https://tenor.com/view/truth-nuke-truth-true-soyjak-wojak-gif-14828627546768133163

[fathom widget]

Oh gosh pig and vecna, 2 timers to worry about

[stiff mulch]

truthfully though Lich's power would probably be extremely overwhelming in 2v8, and id imagine mage hand would have like a 10 second cooldown too

[fathom widget]

Slowdown and power denial

[icy summit]

If i dc as killer i can find another match in about 5 minutes

[stiff mulch]

and then you queue up against me just to play against a bot when I DC

its okay though dont run franklins demise and I wont DC

franklins demise is my one DC condition

[fathom widget]

Chucky buffs for 2v8 sound like survivor complaints just like people got him nerfed over his no counterplay (even though he still wasnt even A tier)

[dapper bear]

Ppl on the ptb still pmo like why tf we bringing decisive and deadhard for you sweats 😭😭😭

[fathom widget]

The buffs make him just og chucky really

[icy summit]

https://tenor.com/view/the-grinch-evil-smile-creepy-smile-gif-7618321

[stiff mulch]

chucky in 2v8 is a waste of company resources

nobody wants to play that midget in 2v8

[fathom widget]

He doesnt have the scamper under pallet thing but now his lunge attack will be a hit pretty much every time

[dapper bear]

gng this shit a slur 😭

[stiff mulch]

couldve added vecna, or vecna, or demogorgon, or someone fun

[icy summit]

Chucky was by far the easiest to implement killer that wasnt already implemented

[stiff mulch]

hes 0.4m tall what you want me to say

[fathom widget]

Well chucky isnt something we already have in 2v8 really, closest we have is blight with his rush attack

[icy summit]

Doll

[stiff mulch]

they made like a few value changes and a iri addon basekit, that is not work to be proud of and not an excuse for not adding anything else to 2v8

[dapper bear]

you guys cant loop a 4’4 m/s doll?

i say hes fine in 2v8 he dont have mobility

[fathom widget]

Well his buffs make that harder

[icy summit]

Every other killer is much harder to implement because of their powers/objects they spawn

[stiff mulch]

at that height hes practically usain bolt

[dapper bear]

The survivor side is handheld as FUCK with the addition of the new flashlight saver focused class so i wouldnt find it diffcult

[fathom widget]

Oh I forgot about the new classes

[stiff mulch]

Lich would be perfect and not hard to do, the counterplay to the items is basekit for vecna already and chests infinitely regenerate, they probably wouldnt even need to touch him

could probably reduce cooldowns or some shit

[fathom widget]

They have the chest bug back i think where it fucks killer powers

[dapper bear]

Great news is that Myers will not see the light of 2v8

[stiff mulch]

make ornate horn basekit

[fathom widget]

Until Halloween game dies

License holders get back in touch with bhvr again

[stiff mulch]

tombstone infinite t3 myers in 2v8, imagine

oh what could have been

[fathom widget]

It wouldnt be much fun if myers was in 2v8 anyway since his rework just made him better pig

[stiff mulch]

myers in 2v8 would be fun as shit

imagine pig in 2v8 with videotape as basekit and ruleset n02

[fathom widget]

But they would keep his dash power not his old expose

[stiff mulch]

i know, a tall undetectable man sounds fun though

[icy summit]

Also ravens feather, ring of spell storing, and that one tha reduces the time before you can attack after flying just so they can change those god awful addons for better ones

[fathom widget]

But then what would pig be?

[stiff mulch]

time reduction on flight is 0.1 seconds btw 😭

[fathom widget]

Pig would have to be better to get hits on but it isnt exposed

[dapper bear]

You guys think Chucky will be annoying other than the 4.6 m/s killer with a INSTADOWN DASH

[icy summit]

It's so bad just give him new addons already 😭

[stiff mulch]

thats not why were complaining about chucky in 2v8

[dapper bear]

Atleast im not dying instantly by a missplay

[fathom widget]

Well it could be like Billy rememebr he doesnt have instadown saw anymore ( I think?)

[icy summit]

We're complaining about Chucky in 2v8?

[stiff mulch]

its cuz chucky is boring and uninspired for a mode like 2v8

so many other fun killers couldve been added, no one thinks its gonna be busted

[dapper bear]

If it was Myers added into 2v8 it would be a whole different story

[fathom widget]

2v8 shouldn't be balanced

Its meant for fun

[stiff mulch]

yes it would be fun, no one cares if its fair

[icy summit]

Just because you dont like Chucky doesnt mean he shouldnt get in 2v8

[stiff mulch]

sure but he shouldnt have had priority

[dapper bear]

WHO TF FINDS MYERS FUN??

[stiff mulch]

anyone with 3 braincells

[fathom widget]

Fun is subjective af people find skull merchant really fun

[dapper bear]

He takes legit no skill, controllable dash duration and an NONEXISTENT TURNRATE

[stiff mulch]

huh he can turn at full speed

[fathom widget]

Bruh and legion takes skill?

[icy summit]

He's ridiculously easy to add to 2v8. There was really no reason not to

[dapper bear]

Yes he can do that

[fathom widget]

He gets free hits and if it wasnt for the fact he is an m1 killer after that then you'd be calling him op

[stiff mulch]

sure but they couldve added someone else too considering they changed nothing about him significantly

[dapper bear]

No fucking harsh turnrate despite him being able to instadown

[icy summit]

Also you are forgetting one possibility. License holders may just not allow the killer in 2v8

[ripe bison]

Theres at least some skill involved with Legion such as flicks durring chase to hit survivors as they do particular tactics to dodge you

[fathom widget]

Oni change hello?

[stiff mulch]

id rather someone other than chucky but if his changes are a nothing burger they could add morekillers too

[fathom widget]

Meh, but that rarely makes me whiff

[stiff mulch]

not sure license holders have that power, they could cry about it and revoke their license yeah but BHVR has the right to add them im pretty sure

[dapper bear]

Oni’s instadown takes longer to get + you still gotta flick around to get a instadown meanwhile myers is faster in getting t3 and also he can control when to dash and when to cancel with no downsides whatsoever..

[icy summit]

Nope. Has to do mainly with licensed killer interacting with other licensed killers.

[fathom widget]

Once theres blood flowing around the map then he gets his power faster than myers if you dont just consume it all

[dapper bear]

Well not all Onis do that

[icy summit]

The chucky license holders also just clearly have a great relationship with Behavior

[fathom widget]

Yeah not many onis use all their power

Myers you have to unless you use the one addon

[dapper bear]

also you gotta rely on injures meanwhile Myers relies on LoS

[fathom widget]

Yeah and theres not many maps with easy LOS, theres plenty of pressure to have with oni and injures

[icy summit]

Oni is cooler though. Big demon man with stick.

[fathom widget]

Plus theres a cap on bloodorbs so you dont even need ppl injured all the time

[dapper bear]

And takes more skill lol

[icy summit]

I wish using wasd on Oni didnt mess with his dash so much. I'm always tempted to do it

[ripe bison]

2v8 ptb is gonna be que time hell

[icy summit]

It always is.

[fathom widget]

Thoughts on truetalents and scottjunds takes on vecna? Personally I agree a lot with trues points and scott about the skill floor being infinite

[icy summit]

Do you think the queue times for 1v4 will be better once the 2v8 ptb starts?

[gusty jewel]

Is it true that Vecna can do 4 mori at once?

[fathom widget]

Its kinda crazy to think Vecna2 would be by far even better than nurse if people had on point accuracy with his power

Aura reveal making that possible

[gray horizon]

its almost impossible to perfectly track surv movement like that

[fathom widget]

Oh yes I know but im just saying

[gray horizon]

i get wym though yeah

[icy summit]

Survivors going against nurse have to predict her or die. Meanwhile both Vecna and survivors have to be able to predict each others moves.

[fathom widget]

Thats the big thing behavior wont consider when they gut vecna, how hard it is to actually recreate the clips because its a ton of prediction to make 10s downs

[stiff mulch]

HOLY SHIT THE ENTITY IS EATING GOOD

[fathom widget]

HEYY THATS NOT THE RIGHT VECNA

[stiff mulch]

killed them all at 5 gens, cant say it was my intention to get them all instantly but damn

[gray horizon]

honestly would say it’s slightly easier for the surv to predict

[stiff mulch]

the entity spawning over 4 hooks simultaneously and taking them all sounds really really cool

this is why the entity had to nerf vecna, hes too strong

[fathom widget]

The entity playing favorites with vecna2. I think Lich vecna isnt as strong as Henry vecna

But hard to say, and we have to see when live

[icy summit]

100% its kinda easy to just sidestep it

[stiff mulch]

could this be the worst take ever?

[fathom widget]

What you think Henry is worse than Lich?

[stiff mulch]

pallets are so useless against these 2

[fathom widget]

Pallets are useless against Henry

[gray horizon]

hes objectively stronger but guarantee he wont make it through to live how he is in ptb

[stiff mulch]

yes because vecna has bambam and blood favor in his kit and his map traversal and location tools are extremely strong

[fathom widget]

But his chase power isnt as strong and unless you get a really big map then Henry will perform better assuming you play equally as well

[stiff mulch]

and not to mention the items of vecna can just be dispelled

[stiff mulch]

vecna is a 4.4 and gets severely slowed for using his power, unlike vecna

[fathom widget]

Yes im aware but if you predict well you down faster than lich

[stiff mulch]

a 4.4 takes 50% longer to catch up vs a 4.6 he stands no chance against sprintburst

however I will say his +2m addon makes his power extremely strong, heavily slept on cuz its a common addon

[fathom widget]

Not everyone will use sprintburst forever so assuming Henry's one counter will remain forever a month later isnt realistic

[stiff mulch]

sprintburst is always a popular choice

second only to lithe which will have the same effect

[fathom widget]

But its gonna be all 4 survs for at least 2 weeks

Just purely on how much more sprint burst counters henry

[gray horizon]

sb vigil like when springtrap dropped

[stiff mulch]

ive been using shadowstep aswell and a lot of Creel users cant play or do much about it

they have to completely guess where to use their power

or look for the totem

[fathom widget]

I think he'll be more map dependent than lich for sure

If he has aura builds he can down well on indoor maps since he doesnt need LOS

[gray horizon]

shadowstep is busted on some maps indoors specifically

[stiff mulch]

midwhich 🙂

[fathom widget]

And its harder for survivors to move far enough away from the tentacles range in a lot of scenarios with walls blocking just holding w forward

They have to turn corners a lot

Imagine if pwyf is actually bugged and you only lose stacks on successful attacks with henry

Then he'd be really good

[gray horizon]

you can also just get free tag on animation locks like vaults or mid pallet drop animation

[fathom widget]

Yep

[gray horizon]

pretty sure something similar was with nemesis a while back but forgot

[fathom widget]

Im surprised the only mechanic with the stacks on Henry's power is the mini mori, they definitely can do more with addons or other effects on survivors

Full stacks making them removable and clock ticks down faster, or maybe you get extra effect from Henry

[gray horizon]

probably trying to keep the kit minimal im not exactly sure

[fathom widget]

They could go sadako route ish with full stacks his tentacles always injures so you have to remove them as an act of slowdown otherwise his lethality goes way up

And then it takes like 3 hits default to enter clock state idk

[stiff mulch]

oops I did it again

[fathom widget]

Its funny now tier one Franklin's is the same as tier 3 isnt it?

[stiff mulch]

just the range that i see items from but weave attunement shows me them map wide anyways

[fathom widget]

Oh yeah and thats fucking useless seeing the auras on franklins cuz oh they picked up their item, I dont know where they went unless I have weave 😆

So dumb they killed Franklin's like that because of weave

Ppl too dumb to know the drop item before chase counterplay, in corner map

[stiff mulch]

well its still a strong combo, if you use it on shack or whatever they have to leave it or you have full aura reading on shack and they risk getting killed super quickly

[fathom widget]

The issue though is 2 perk slots and if they just use their items up all the way and pick up later, most ppl using toolboxes and that will deplete fast no need to hold it so just dump it in the corner

Top team probably just dumping their items rather than holding onto them cuz that would remove 2 killer perks to worry about

[stiff mulch]

you can also use spirit fury on vecna, if they drop a god pallet you can just pick it up, and if they try to stun you with it itll just break and you can smack them

and if they dont well then it doesnt give them much distance

[fathom widget]

I usually run scourge corrupt lethal alien instinct (aura on injured surv, oblivipus)

Good for tunneling out

[stiff mulch]

if I see alien instinct I know the killer is coming for me

[fathom widget]

At minimum forces heal under hook or more heals in match generally but then I have orb to find them

[stiff mulch]

im thinking rapid brutality is probably very strong with vecna too

[fathom widget]

Yeah its pretty good

[stiff mulch]

he doesnt really struggle to get that hit,but then again he has fly so he doesnt need it

[fathom widget]

I dont think it does anything with fly, adding to that movespeed

But idk. Its already so fast I dont think it matters

[stiff mulch]

vecna needs new addons

[fathom widget]

I started using raven feather

[stiff mulch]

his iris are fine, but the rest are weird, a couple can stay though

[fathom widget]

His cloak addons...

[stiff mulch]

cloak is dirty as fuck

[fathom widget]

Dump everything for undetectable and pray your chests are good spawns

[stiff mulch]

it should be a purple but im not complaining with it being easy to get

[fathom widget]

Oh you mean the rare terror radius one

I was talking about his purple robe addons

[stiff mulch]

yeah its practically undetectable during flight shits insane

[fathom widget]

Unless they get the thing that reveals aura in flight

[stiff mulch]

people usually take sphere and mage hand haste though

[fathom widget]

I think they wont when they know u have that though

Assuming they well. Get the rng

[stiff mulch]

you only need 1 down from it to get good value

and then thats either mage hand or sphere that they cant use either

[fathom widget]

I suppose, a top level though with comms they'll probably call it out

I like raven feather with the 2 mimic chests

[stiff mulch]

the lithe user when I hit them with withered staff (their lithe wont activate!!!!)

[fathom widget]

The purple sloppy addon is weird cuz good survivors pick up the items but then some people pick up nothing and then you get 0 addon value

[stiff mulch]

I think all brown items and all addons up to green should be infinitely available

[fathom widget]

But its a win win cuz if they have no item chases are easier

[stiff mulch]

this way people can gacha for better things

that or just add a way to sell my fucking fog vials

[fathom widget]

Then ppl will complain since theres an addon rarity imbalance with killers best addons being browns and others browns are among their worst

[stiff mulch]

dragontooth dagger

[fathom widget]

Yeah it can be nice

[stiff mulch]

yeah but rarer addons would be easier to roll as a byproduct so it wouldnt matter

[fathom widget]

I suppose yeah

[stiff mulch]

I think if theres something you want to run every match, you should be able to

using an iridescent addon shouldnt have to be a luxury

[fathom widget]

But then would that be for offerings too

[stiff mulch]

sure

[fathom widget]

Oof hatch offering every match

But you wont know...

Or wait isnt sac ward common now too

[stiff mulch]

thats a brown and I have like 100000 of them on killer and survivor

[ripe bison]

No

[stiff mulch]

yes

[fathom widget]

Yeah I guess true

[fathom widget]

Its basically just what characters dont I have those browns on 😆

[ripe bison]

Hatch offeringd area non issue. You just check the shack first whenever the hatch spawns

[fathom widget]

Yeah true

And I earn max BP without needing to 4k so I dont even care when grinding if last gets out

[halcyon solar]

What’re your guys’ thoughts on the first?

[fathom widget]

Im gonna be maining Vecna and Vecna, please help

[stiff mulch]

unfun to play against its just the floor is lava

[halcyon solar]

I’m actually the opposite lol

[stiff mulch]

on a real note im gonna be using lich and bubba

WAIT ADD BUBBA TO 2v8 ITS GENIUS

[gleaming sentinel]

am i the only one who’s using the ptb to test out killers to see who to buy instead of testing new characters 🥹

[halcyon solar]

His floor attack is extremely easy to dodge and the vines are kinda 50/50

[stiff mulch]

yes

[fathom widget]

The facecampers will be sad cuz they can no longer basement bubba

[gleaming sentinel]

🤑

[fathom widget]

Can't even camp a cage if you do find it

[sleek path]

i used it to test hex devour hope since i dont have hag and devour hope is realllyyyy fun on dredge and now i have hag prestieged

[stiff mulch]

basekit iri flesh with 8 people to hit

[fathom widget]

Oh my

[stiff mulch]

keep them waiting for last

[sleek path]

and blight for undying

[fathom widget]

Wait thats gonna just be legion without vault and killer instinct so people will Hella complain with Bubba legion

Legion on comms telling Bubba where to go next 😆

Goddamn its time for bed 🛌

[ripe bison]

Bubba in 2v8 sounds likr a disaster

He will be consistently chaining 2-4 downs on the regular

[rugged lion]

really wish they'd add the Romulus hybrid Xeno as a skin.

oops wrong channel

[stiff mulch]

I feel like it would be cool if they made iridescent addons unlimited but you can only bring 1, can never use two

im too broke to be able to use vorpal sword or vile darkness whenever Id like

[granite furnace]

they need to change his terror radius and chase music it's so ass rn

the fact it has no synth and clocks is an unforgivable crime

[granite furnace]

REAL REAL REAL REAL THE OFFSPRING IS MY MOST WANTED COSMETIC EVER

[round crow]

i think the infant from 4 would make an awesome legendary if it got its own voice lines

[ocean dove]

I would like to share some constructive feedback regarding Eleven’s unique perk design.

I have been a long-time fan of Stranger Things and have followed Eleven’s character throughout every season. In the show, Eleven is portrayed as a powerful and proactive character—someone who disrupts enemies, intervenes in critical moments, and directly confronts threats such as One. Her abilities are impactful, forceful, and highly interactive.

However, in Dead by Daylight, her unique perk being primarily aura-reading focused feels disconnected from that identity. While aura reading is useful, it does not capture the essence of Eleven’s psychic powers or her role in the source material. As a result, the perk feels underwhelming and lacks a strong “wow” factor compared to what players might expect from this character.

I believe there was an opportunity to make Eleven feel more distinctive through a more interactive or disruptive mechanic. For example:
• A limited remote Pallet interaction, such as briefly pulling down, locking, or influencing a Pallet at range.
• Or a Totem-related effect that temporarily slows the Killer’s movement speed or action speed under specific conditions.

Even short-duration effects like these could better represent her ability to interfere with and pressure her opponent, making her gameplay feel more aligned with her character in the show.

[round crow]

i just feel like any remote interaction perk would completely change the game in a bad way

the only remote interaction i feel like they could maybe get away with would be like cleansing totems or maybe even saboing a hook if it was like super slow but even then its iffy

i do think that her perks that arent extrasensory perception are aggressively lame though they could have done a lot more

[ocean dove]

Yeah, I feel really disappointed too. Eleven is supposed to be a character with actual supernatural power, but when she’s translated into Dead by Daylight, her abilities end up feeling almost pointless. It’s hard to take her perks seriously when they don’t reflect how powerful or impactful she’s meant to be.

[prisma anchor]

she is the realm, a teenager can kill 4 cops

[round crow]

they could have done a lot giving her like invocations

maybe like an invocation for a remote unhook wouldnt be super completely busted cause they all leave you broken for the rest of the game but im sure thats an idea they've went over and ruled out lol

or maybe just a short stun that gives your team an opportunity to go in but i feel like thats just swf cancer

[ocean dove]

On top of that, the new perks coming in are still focused on faster gen repair, which is honestly ridiculous. Gen speeds are already out of control. As Killer, there are matches where I haven’t even gotten my first down and one or two gens are already done. Adding more gen speed just makes early game pressure feel pointless and pushes gen rushing even harder.

[ivory abyss]

when's 2v8??

[celest hare]

Nobody talks about Nancy's new lobby animations, they were so bad before

They're really cute now

[fiery depot]

Is it me or is Vecna a bit too oppressive (could be a skill issue but idk)

[granite oriole]

He is very oppressive, you simply not allowed to drop pallets or vault windows against him because he punishes that instantly
His 3 gen ability is the best out of all killers by far

[fiery depot]

Glad it wasn't just me. His power lasts very long as well.

[jade laurel]

He needs a buff

His power should instadown lowk

[viscid mesa]

Ok this is a problem lmao
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[granite oriole]

Gearhead value

[jade laurel]

Big ass Skillchecks and my solo q teammates will still miss it

[granite oriole]

Those gen rush perks are good only if you already run every single gen rush perk before that

Meaning hyperfocus, stake out became even stronger

New world records on the fastest out incoming, maybe?

[nocturne birch]

Does vecna's grandfather clock wind down faster if multiple people are doing it

[quartz rampart]

whens the 2v8 releasing?

[celest hare]

Do you guys think they heard Eleven's name and decided to make her voice sound like an 11 year old?? What tf did they pitch it down like that for

[celest hare]

Yeah and since it doesn't say otherwise probably with no debuff, 2 people 2x as fast etc

Erm... it says "mystery" and then reveals the offering when you hover over it (mori)... some mystery lmao, I'll report it

[astral cipher]

It’s been a know bug for a while

[worn bluff]

maybe a boon? That would be something fun huh?

[astral cipher]

It’s -9 charges per second with 1 survivor and then -3 more c/s with each other survivor interacting with the clocks

Which is up to -18 c/s

[pale dome]

is 2v8 on the PTB??

[astral cipher]

I believe it will be in about 3.5 hours

[pale dome]

thanks!

[astral cipher]

4.5 actually

[celest hare]

Oh >:(

[upper karma]

anyone wanna do customs, we are oce

[granite oriole]

Yes

[obtuse vigil]

is legion gonna be in ptb 2v8?

[harsh portal]

Aynone know the time when 2v8 is gonna be here

[astral cipher]

Most likely not

[pale dome]

chucky will be

[wise bridge]

I see what you want to see but Perks is for everyone. So you cant add perks that works for her cause of her Power in the serie. There is no way Jill or other Chars could do it

Sadly there will Never be something really exlusive to the Survs cause the game isnt designed for it

[vital ruin]

What time will 2 on 8 be released today on PTB

[hasty crescent]

the updates usually happen at <t:1767715200:t> so safe to assume that's when the update is today as well

[celest hare]

Trickster with no new perks and Ace sandbagging with none either on the PTB...

DC stigma can fuck off I should've dipped the moment I heard the fuckass lullaby

[glossy ether]

what about the janurary 7th ptb

[arctic prairie]

When accessing a character's Bloodweb, the character will be automatically set to Level 50 and Prestige 3, unlocking their perks to Tier 3, as well as any items that would regularly be obtained during this process.”
this is a lie.

For reasons beyond my comprehension dredge is set to p5 level 18 without so much as touching him and cannot access the new killers perks. i think it was cause i leveled him for the bloody cosmetic a couple ptb ago.

Seriously anyone know how to fix this?

I didn’t play him on the krasu ptb but if i recall correctly he was p5 then as well

[hasty crescent]

$ptbfeedback sorry to hear that the perks are not available here you can post bugs about the ptb so hopefully it will not happen again next time

[dusty edge]

Got feedback for the PTB? Head on over to :link: https://forums.bhvr.com/dead-by-daylight/categories/9-4-0-ptb-feedback

[hasty crescent]

also this might be a stupid question, but have you tried levelling dredge during this ptb to see if the new perks are in his bloodweb?

[quasi heart]

What time will 2v8 release in?

[trim halo]

it depends on the timezone, I believe 11am est

[quasi heart]

❤️

[stoic crypt]

i got vecna at high A tier

i think he’s better than dracula, if we’re really talking about the best vecna vs the best dracula

a good vecna can down from so far away and he has traversal

then again this is ptb things can change even tho he’s a fine killer just gets countered by shift w

[arctic prairie]

Yeah they didn’t show up

I can try leveling him to p6 and see if that brute forces it after breakfast

[haughty hazel]

say what you want about people who dc in the PTB but if i see you playing LEGION??? im leaving immediately. if youre not gunna play the new killer at least play something somewhat fun

[zealous oak]

But legion is fun

[haughty hazel]

literally what about playing against legion is fun

[limpid crag]

The mending game

[tacit kindle]

so when is 2v8 gonna be available?

[stoic crypt]

30 mins

[tacit kindle]

ah sick

[quasi heart]

where is 2v8.

[haughty hazel]

is 2v8 live servers or ptb bc im on the ptb and nothing is coming up

BHVR is 4 minutes late thatll be 110000 auric cells and 67000 iridescent shards please

[quasi heart]

rs

[ruby hemlock]

its already 6 minutes, bring up with the percentage

[placid sable]

yall i am stupid what does ptb mean

[upbeat thistle]

Public test build

[placid sable]

Oh thank you

[haughty hazel]

if we get to 10 minutes theyre legally required to add Sidney Prescott as a survivor with a legendary Gale Weathers skin.

[ruby hemlock]

50 seconds

[opaque kite]

2v8 is ptb or normal?

[copper nebula]

ptb

[ruby hemlock]

ptb

[haughty hazel]

well right now 2v8 is a fantasy

[ruby hemlock]

also, i joined the second last 2x8 got removed i suppose, is there like some forbidden killer that u cant play in 2x8?

[haughty hazel]

theres a limited cast that’s allowed

[ruby hemlock]

where can i find it?

[marble tusk]

do i need restart ghame wen 2v8 is added

[haughty hazel]

the future ig

[ruby hemlock]

ok gtg there ig, byeeeee

[rugged lion]

I just tried restarting steam to see if there was an update available but nope

[placid sable]

am i theoretaclly able to play on PTB on console?

[rugged lion]

only on Steam

[ruby halo]

No it’s steam only

[narrow hazel]

dude i love how vocal they are about something coming to a ptb with 0 announcement on when

[prime vapor]

Does anyone know if 2v8 released in the ptb?

[ruby halo]

2v8 prob drops in an hour if you go off past ptb drops

[ruby hemlock]

Why ptb before was around 3 gb, and now its 48?

[opaque kite]

2v8 is working?

[haughty hazel]

baby there is no plane

[lyric haven]

[copper nebula]

they forgor to active the 2v8 in the ptb

[lyric haven]

[haughty hazel]

what if the 2v8 is the friends we made along the way

[zealous oak]

What killers is available in 2v8

[glass karma]

maybe its january 8 2027

[lyric haven]

[copper nebula]

or 2028

[copper nebula]

the same roaster as live servers but with the addition of chucky

[tepid anchor]

it says on the announcement it’s jan 8 2026

[lyric haven]

[zealous oak]

Next millennium

[copper nebula]

ye

[glass karma]

nah they missclicked 6

[icy summit]

Have PTBs ever updated before?

[tepid anchor]

right..

[haughty hazel]

alright if this goes on much longer im going to have to talk to Mr. HVR themself.

[copper nebula]

ye

[haughty hazel]

how much yall wanna bet its releasing at 11 and we look real dumb

[icy summit]

Behavior gonna release a statement like "Sorry we changed out minds"

[haughty hazel]

lol jk <3

2v8 not out so im boutta sandbag these survs sorry if ur in my game rn

[icy summit]

I'm hoping the 1v4 queue times will increase once the 2v8 is out

[zealous oak]

We are Dumbfuckistan

[glossy ether]

my games not even launching anymore lmao

[rich nacelle]

2pm EST

[icy summit]

[haughty hazel]

u have got to b kidding me

[glossy ether]

😭

[lyric haven]