ptb-discussion

[fluid fern]

and Vecna potentially will be one of them depending on how he is changed on live release

[radiant locust]

I’m saying that you shouldn’t need to play an S tier to win

[glass fox]

Okay picture this scenario: 1 gen left, 3 survivors in death hook and the person beckoning you to chase them is only second hook. What do you do

[long bay]

No killer needs to tunnel to win. It's just some players controlling those killers

[radiant locust]

Or tunnel
Or bring meta

[neon wave]

if you want to win yes it is

[fluid fern]

I beg you to play Hag against a comp team

please attempt to 8 hook on Hag

let the death hook survivors crawl to their teammates for free

[long bay]

"I" cant even act like I could. I dont know hag or how she works

[fluid fern]

then why are you speaking with authority

[glass fox]

Play any c tier or below killer and don’t tunnel

[radiant locust]

Hag should be strong enough that she doesn’t need to tunnel to win

[fluid fern]

👆

[neon wave]

people like him are ignorant. "Please daddy i beg you play a killer you have no clue how to play against a sweaty team of players that know what theyre doing"

[long bay]

Because someone that knows hag better would probably be better than I am, and they wouldnt need to tunnel to win...?

[fluid fern]

post stats oh sage

[long bay]

Why am I playing killers I dont know how to play?

[glass fox]

Because your arguments don’t hold up

[neon wave]

ask the dumbass who "blocked me" but is replying to my messages like a good boy

[glass fox]

If you don’t

You don’t get to speak on another main’s behalf if you never put any amount of time into it

[neon wave]

playing a killer idk how to play against a group of people that have hundreds of thousands of hours on what they DO play makes our argument invalid?

[fluid fern]

👆

[neon wave]

no one brought up hag but them lil bro XD

[long bay]

I'm saying if you are good with hag, you wont need to tunnel, you play who you like, I'll play who I like. No tunnelling. I'm not saying I'm God with everybody, but I'm also not saying that someone that knew how to use her power would be either of us. How does me not being good at hag mean hag is worthless

[neon wave]

Thats not true you need to tunnel if you want to win a game

you dont need to tunnel ALL of your games but in the really sweaty ones you need to tunnel

[long bay]

Maybe you do...

I'm out. I'm gonna life

[neon wave]

if thats your way of calling me ass then go watch comp players and call them ass cuz they tunnel

[fluid fern]

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=7CCngNTzvWE

Its time to get educated on Hag Meta

but yknow COMP players vs the best players on a respective killer is just "not how the game works"

[glass fox]

Also comp players tunnel all the fucking time

So even the best of the best endorse this strategy

[fluid fern]

this chat has devulged into fodder by anonymous people who dont post their creds in their bio

[neon wave]

people that play clock in pubs are no lifes and sad af im sorry

[fickle crane]

Well the requirements of comp are very different than the requirements of your regular matches

[glass fox]

When was the fresh hook bonus points introduced to discourage comp tunneling

[fluid fern]

true, they're balanced around banning the strongest tools on both sides and put on a map that gives both sides a fair chance

[neon wave]

youre right survivors are way more restricted in comp than in pubs and killer still has to tunnel to win

[fluid fern]

instead of one side getting an ungodly advantageous map while running the most oppresive perks possible

[rustic mica]

ive seen enough please nerf vecna

[fluid fern]

🙏

[neon wave]

i dont understand why you think this vid would prove him wrong? he didnt tunnel at all and won against comp players

[tropic cairn]

what do we think of the new survivor perks? any of them worth getting?

[subtle zephyr]

Don't nerf me

[glass fox]

Window trap

[dusk kettle]

maybe dustin's

[radiant locust]

Dustin’s are not good, and Eleven’s are middle of the road, but We See You is honestly amazing

[subtle zephyr]

Dawg why do u have a discord suspicion on your ass for selling illegal shit

[tropic cairn]

yeah that trap seems strong, are the numbers any different than chem trap?

[radiant locust]

It’s better than chem trap, but it’s still basically a chem trap

So pretty situational at best

[tropic cairn]

im a killer main due to lack of survivor perks currently but it seems too strong for being basically free to obtain (20% fix on a gen)

[rich nacelle]

Imagine being called The First ingame and being the second Vecna lmao

[subtle zephyr]

DAMN

[radiant locust]

But still, when do you have time to stop in a chase (that you are already winning) and trap a window?

Unlike pallets, you don’t have to vault a window to win in a loop

And yes ik unsafe pallets exist

But there are very few “safe” windows

[tropic cairn]

it looked about as fast to set up as chem trap. I'd guess that its best place of use is shack and some other stronger loops

what about Vecna's perks? they all seem quite good for once

[subtle zephyr]

Ashamed to say my only decent perk is Turn Back The Clock

[radiant locust]

Yes. Remote Pop, better Tinkerer, and unlimited stealth are all good

[icy summit]

Whats wrong with Secret Project?

[tropic cairn]

its definitely the best out the three but it needs a small buff imo. Unless i got it wrong you need los on the gen to activate it which can be quite troublesome

[subtle zephyr]

Hive Mind is horrible and Secret Project is ok

[subtle zephyr]

It's good In some sort of situations

[radiant locust]

Combined with a perk like Thrilling Tremors or Deadlock makes it a very frequent stealth perk

[fickle crane]

Hive Mind feels really good. Like it's a hex so it goes away after a bit but once the Hex is up you basically have perfect gen information

[radiant locust]

Also, coverage for hexes 🤷‍♂️

[subtle zephyr]

I honestly forgot what it does exactly u don't mind sending a pic of what it does kind person?

[icy summit]

Only issue is you are never reaching 1 gen with the totem still lit lmao

[subtle zephyr]

That's what I mean

[subtle zephyr]

Thank you kindly btw

[icy summit]

Hear me out on this build

[fickle crane]

Well that's not the point of the hex. The point of the hex is to give you information until then. My guess as to why it deactivates at 1 gen left is to prevent extremely oppressive 3-gens

[subtle zephyr]

Hear me out on Face The Darkness on my character

[icy summit]

Yeah true

[fickle crane]

The explosion is just a little nice tack-on instead of the perk deactivating fully like Ruin used to

[icy summit]

I just know there are some players crying about turn back the clock being "OP"

[subtle zephyr]

Definitely it was already confirmed

[fluid fern]

because it is

[icy summit]

It really isnt lmao

[subtle zephyr]

Its a good perk but I wouldn't say it'd overpowered

[fluid fern]

Corporate wants you to find the counterplay

"Don't get hooked" gg ez lol

[icy summit]

2 of those perks are useless after 4 hooks

Dead mans isn't going to be proccing nearly as much once Pain res is gone

[fluid fern]

https://tenor.com/view/how-do-we-tell-him-mr-krabs-spongebob-meme-spongebob-meme-gif-24063814

you mean...after every other hook too right?

[subtle zephyr]

https://tenor.com/view/i-dont-know-bro-not-sure-no-idea-nervous-idk-gif-15659582

[fluid fern]

from a 20 m distance?

[icy summit]

How would that trigger dead mans though? You need to be 20 meters from a gen with a survivor on it while in line of sight of the gen

[fluid fern]

so you hook a survivor. And you look at a gen while a survivor is working on it

you explode it, 10% intstant and 35 second block

or they let go of it, 35 second block and you go back after and explode it after

from a 20m distance (mid chase if you want to, or slug and do it and do it a second time after hooking)

[subtle zephyr]

Not to mention that one add on...

[fluid fern]

definitely not op

[subtle zephyr]

Breaks pallets and damaged gens? Yeah totally balanced

[fickle crane]

In my experience that add-on didn't really come up that much. Vecna 2 plays around pallets in such a way that it often doesn't change that much, plus you're not often using the Undergate that close to pallets. It seems like a nice QoL thing for nearby gens though

[glass fox]

Why are people thinking Hive Mind is bad just because it’s a hex

[fluid fern]

Remember that the last time we had a perk that gave this much value (OG pain res) everyone used it and it got gutted because of how universally oppressive it was

[glass fox]

IMO is more powerful than Blood Favour and that hex is nuts

[fluid fern]

at least Pain Res is tied to a Scourge, this is any hook anywhere on the map

[glass fox]

Requires direct los

So you can’t explode gens with it behind walls or on different floors

[fluid fern]

that isn't as big of a deal as it might seem

[glass fox]

Let’s not forget rpd got boosted

[craggy mortar]

I think yall talking about the addon that destroys pallet and imo it's only great with the addon that blocks windows so you won't give them any escape from you and even with this it feels kinda useless

[fluid fern]

you can always just walk closer to it

[craggy mortar]

Wait what😨

[fickle crane]

Well at that point, you're walking closer to a gen and that'll trigger DMS anyways when the survivor has to leave it

[glass fox]

You can’t explode through walls or floors

[craggy mortar]

Yeah i get it, now I'm sad

[glass fox]

So it’s nerfed by indoor maps but great in wide open ones

[fluid fern]

sounds like perk and build value to me thats unavoidable for the surv

not op?

[fickle crane]

Well, is DMS not unavoidable by default? If the killer walks up to the gen, you have to leave. That's DMS's doing, not TBtC's

[fluid fern]

and stealth perks/add-ons/killers don't exist right?

surely there anren't killers who cant get to 20m distance with that perk and DMS it while undetectable

[fickle crane]

I'm not sure if Wraith can use TBtC while cloaked. I know you can't while you're burrowing as Vecna so I'll have to check.

But again, Wraith doesn't need TBtC to make use of DMS. Wraith can go up to the gen easily and unclock manually, and that triggers it.

[fluid fern]

https://deadbydaylight.wiki.gg/wiki/Status_HUD/Undetectable

[glass fox]

Or the aware survivor just walks up to a dud gen and procs it

[fluid fern]

Springtrap, Ghostface

Meyers

[fickle crane]

I am unsure what point you are making. You are just listing killers who have undetectable as part of their power

[fluid fern]

And I provided a list of add ons that make killers undetectable

the point is that you arent going to be able to avoid Deadman's

because Turn Back exists

[fickle crane]

Couldn't you make the survivor unable to avoid DMS just by walking up to the generator regardless?

[glass fox]

Hey guys

Or the one aware survivor can just proc dms on a 0% gen

[subtle zephyr]

Insidious is the best perk fr

[glass fox]

And waste your dms

[fickle crane]

This is true

[icy summit]

They are gonna nerf Turn back clock so its like 5 meters from a gen and only removes 5% of the progress

[glass fox]

Instead Secret Project might be best paired with Thrilling Tremors, Deadlock, Grim Embrace and Corrupt Intervention

Actually does Repressed Alliance trigger Secret Project?

[hallow chasm]

Yes.

[glass fox]

Lmao

[fickle crane]

Honestly I wouldn't hate 5 meter TBtC if it was still 10% because the real thing I love about it is the fact you don't need to go through the kicking animation

[hallow chasm]

What I haven't tested yet is if Secret Project triggers at the end game since it blocks all gens technically when the gates open up.

[icy summit]

But at 5 meters it's literally just a fancy gen kick 😭

[glass fox]

Considering compromised gens no longer 100% procs when the last gen is done regardless

I think not

[fickle crane]

It takes less time. 5 meters is a bit more than half the distance of a Pyramid Head attack. Most of my procs of the perk are at about 5-10 meters anyways

[hallow chasm]

How strong are Teamwork: Full Circuit and Teamwork: Soft-Spoken for their gen speed bonuses?

[glass fox]

People don’t realize how long 5 meters is. That’s like half the length of shack

[rugged lion]

new killer is stupidly overpowered.... as usual.

[icy summit]

He's honestly not. He can be pretty easily dodged

[hallow chasm]

Only thing I'd suggest is a slightly longer cooldown on his vines so it's not that crazy of spam.

[fickle crane]

With it being 5%, I think that's just a nice little bonus for when the perk is active, but it's less speed than Prove Thyself

[icy summit]

I'd be fine with like a 2 second cooldown maybe BUT NO MORE

[hallow chasm]

But what about its synergy when you start stacking other gen perks with it like Prove Thyself, Hyper Focus + Stakeout, Deja Vu, etc.

[granite furnace]

okay since they gave eleven better still sight can we get a still sight buff or rework?

[glass fox]

I heard you can get up to 36% gens repair speed

[ripe bison]

Secret Project , Pentemanto, Plaything is one of the most fun builds I have ever done

[quasi thistle]

His ranged attack doesn't do damage unless he is world breaker
Meaning on average 2 hits will do nothing
Mindlessly holding W will get you hit
If you can dodge huntress, the deathlsinger and so on. You can dodge him

[glass fox]

What if you throw in retribution

[fickle crane]

I've not tested it yet. Maybe if you stack both of them with Stakeout + Hyperfocus, but I don't know how the math works out

[ripe bison]

lmao

Running Ruin is better but thats not a bad idea

[glass fox]

Penti is the slow down you need

[hallow chasm]

Only perk I dislike is Bada Bada Boom.

Another perk that is crippling against lower tier Killers and especially against Hillbilly and Bubba who rely on Bamboozle for windows, but mediocre or even just straight up bad against S tiers like Blight and Nurse.

[granite furnace]

bring thrilling tremors too for even more undetectable

[ripe bison]

Secret Project is also slowdown on top of the undetectable

[glass fox]

Even Blight needs to vault god windows

[icy summit]

Also Vecna is so agonizingly slow while holding m2 and in general that if you miss a bunch and they are holding W they will just completely run out of your range

[ripe bison]

Secret Project also triggers off of Pentemento totems getting cleansed

So you get twice as many triggers for it

[glass fox]

Secret Project also triggers on blessing totems. So if you see a survivor with a map

Not a bad idea to include it

[upbeat raptor]

just downloaded the ptb, my account is completely empty, like I've never played before

[upbeat raptor]

is that normal?

[glass fox]

That’s normal

PTB is completely fresh for everyone, the only thing that is carried over is any killers or survivors you unlocked

[icy summit]

PTB and base game are seperate

[upbeat raptor]

so I just have to play without any teachables?

[ripe bison]

Thats normal. When you play the PTB you have a unique seperate string of content available to you. All perks are available on all killers and stuff.

[upbeat raptor]

ok

thanks

[icy summit]

You have access to every teachable and infinite addons. You also get like 10k auric cells to spend on what you want. The only things that DO carry over are dlc you bought on steam

[glass fox]

Also you can’t get achievements

[ripe bison]

All perks are available even if you dont actually own characters. Characters are also auto leveled to prestige 3 if you open their bloodweb, and you are given a ton of auric cells to spend on stuff.

Do keep in mind though that any and all stuff obtained durring the PTB will not be kept when returning to the normal game.

Any shards or auric cells earned or spent on the PTB specifically wont be kept. Same with bloodpoints and ranks.

[glass fox]

Does secret project’s gen block also block completed gens?

[stiff mulch]

Yooo these new perks "keep them waiting" "cull the weak "see how they run" are so gooooddd BHVR cooked with these!!!

[hollow ore]

So when the content comes to PS5 at the end of the month, will we get 2V8 again too?

[glass fox]

“Will to live” is a shit name

[ripe bison]

No. It actually stops working entirely when all all the generators are completed because there are no gens to block

[stiff mulch]

bound by obsession, and down to the last tho bro, theyre so good!

[glass fox]

Okay so completed gens are excluded

[stiff mulch]

bruh he has will to live dont pick him up!

[ripe bison]

tf you mean that name goes hard

[glass fox]

Doesn’t roll off the tongue at all

[stiff mulch]

I cant believe they even had to change the names bro, theyre so unproblematic

practically already were original

[glass fox]

They are related to the license, they have to be changed

[stiff mulch]

i know but still its ridiculous

[ripe bison]

They kind of have to out of principle regardless. Doing it for one means doing it for all of them.

Changes to like the ST perks in particular werent even that big. Surge became Jolt

[glass fox]

Also the changed icons were from dbd mobile

Thank god Valve forgot about left 4 dead

[icy summit]

What do the icons look like?

[glass fox]

I don’t like license-free unbreakable

[ripe bison]

Bill is a licensed survivor though. Valve just let Behavior give him out for free.

[glass fox]

I mean the perk icon

[icy summit]

Not let. FORCED. They had no choice but to let him be free

[rugged lion]

this game is seriously absurdly survivor-sided.... This is coming from a survivor-main.
Killer is an absolute fucking joke unless you're in the top 5% of players with over 10000 hours.

[ionic zodiac]

I agree :<

[stiff mulch]

nobody asked and it completely depends on what killer you are playing

[glass fox]

It’s swf sided

That is the true answer

[icy summit]

Weren't you just saying earlier that Vecna is stupidly overpowered as usual?

[subtle zephyr]

Yumny add ond

[rugged lion]

yeah, and? New killer is OP, Old killers are nerfed into the ground

there's no in-between

[glass fox]

So why is Nurse and Blight still top

By your logic they should be Ghost Face level by now

[subtle zephyr]

We need a savior hopefully Vecna can teach the Swfs a lesson

[glass fox]

And why is Hillbilly still considered a top tier

Isn’t he part of the three oldest killers? Why hasn’t he bit the dust yet?

[subtle zephyr]

BHVR never saw him as too much a problem

[rugged lion]

the oldest players are very seriously destroying this game for newer players. This game is just impossibly ASS for noobs. I really hate that a lot of stuff is decided based off the most skilled players.

they need to have a better matchmaking system

they need to segregate the tryhard competitive dickheads from the casuals

[icy summit]

This is the only game i know where someone with less than 100 hours can go against someone with thousands of hours without them even having to smurf

[subtle zephyr]

This is why we have to learn the art of Blighting it

[icy summit]

Blight is so fun but man is he hard

[rugged lion]

i hate tryhard sweats so fucking much..... really wish there was a better way of grouping the competitive sweats from the casuals

[subtle zephyr]

I know just the guy who can help : )

Dawg just go to Z in general discussion he's like the residential blight main on this server

[ripe bison]

itneresting fact about One I think

He is countered by flashlights

[honest mason]

If vine attack had a longer cooldown would it just be another the artist or the harmless situation?

[rugged lion]

tryhard sweats really ruin this game for casuals.... they need to make a seperate league

[subtle zephyr]

Artist...

[ripe bison]

Oldest players arent always that insanely good. My younger brother has been playing since like 2018 or so and he messes up all the time despite having heavy knowledge on survivor

[subtle zephyr]

But still Artist would win...my goat bird girl...her crow is more accurate

[ripe bison]

bird lady

[subtle zephyr]

Artist and Hag are the most underestimated killers imo

I say as a Artist main

[ripe bison]

Id say moreso Hag

[subtle zephyr]

Let hag cook

[icy summit]

Who is the most overestimated?

[ripe bison]

a lot of people regard Hag as D tier and the the same level as Trapper

[subtle zephyr]

Nope Hag is easily one of the best when played right

[ripe bison]

Doctor perhaps? For newer players that is

[ripe bison]

Not the best. She struggles due to some major issues that Behavior has never addressed.

Namely the fact her base set speed is so incredibly slow and that she still moves at 4.4

[icy summit]

Why IS hag 4.4?

[subtle zephyr]

Buff Hag and Trapper

[ripe bison]

Running at least the green or blue set speed addon is basically manditory if youre playing her optimally

[ripe bison]

Same reason Legion and Trickster were 4.4 on release. Its so encourage players to use her power.

Which is stupid and they woudnt do that with a killer today

Also she was absolutely busted way back when

No endurance off of unhook, and hook grabs

[stiff mulch]

nerf trapper

he should be 4.4 cuz basement = auto win

[icy summit]

Boooo get better materiel

[stiff mulch]

https://tenor.com/view/gohan-videl-staring-angry-gif-5555145583474932687

[rugged lion]

this new killer is fucked holy

[neon wave]

I would like for them to make all killers 4.8 in ptb to just test it out and see how it would turn out

[neon wave]

whyyyyyyyyyy whats wrong with himmmmmm hes so handsome and great

[rugged lion]

his abilities are way too spammable. needs more cooldown

[neon wave]

Nah just his M2 is spammable

ill agree with that but all the other abilities are fine

Well Worldbreaker i think lasts way too long even with the clock counter its like a whole 30-60 seconds

[sick reef]

The ptb should be on consoles too not just PC because console players have to wait so much longer for it

[neon wave]

too much coding and work they dont care about their community enough

[brittle swift]

Not at all the case. Behaviour has to go through the respective console companies for approval and all updates, also most consoles dont have the capacity to host or download entirely new servers for such a short time frame

[sick reef]

@neon wave ye I was really looking forward to playing as vecna yesterday but then I read it's only available ptb on pc

[neon wave]

yeah it sucks

[sick reef]

@neon wave fr

[astral cipher]

It’s just an unreasonable investment for them unfortunately

[last quiver]

Anyone else not got their account on the PTB? It's basically a brand new account and the new survivors and vecna don't have T3 unlocked

[neon wave]

you have to click on vecna and go to blood web to get him T3 and dbd wont crossover your progress from live servers into ptb

[last quiver]

It says in the patch notes it does?

and its always had my account progress on previous PTB's - is this new ?

[neon wave]

where? i didnt see that

[last quiver]

let me have a quick look

[fluid fern]

agree

[last quiver]

but its also supposed to be a snapshot of my account? it has NOTHING unlocked 🙁

[fluid fern]

If I make him whiff his power 6 times he shouldn't be able to be within range to hit the 7th

[neon wave]

thats how it was for me

[neon wave]

that is not how that works. if hes still in range after the 4th youre not holding W

[rugged lion]

also his "emerge" AOE radius is too big.... Shouldn't have to require SB to escape it

[neon wave]

it doesnt

[rugged lion]

his emerge shoudl take less time but have shorter radius

[neon wave]

If you just hold W and dont doubleback at all against it youll make it out in time

[last quiver]

okay not just me then, thank you 🙂

[open patrol]

Patiently waiting for dustin

[neon wave]

i have plenty recording proof that this is not the case

[fluid fern]

agree

[neon wave]

how do you agree with that? have you not played against him?

[fluid fern]

SB being the only counter and then invalidating that part of his power is bad design

[neon wave]

SB isnt the only counter? you dont need a perk to counter it at all

[hallow chasm]

Only perk I dislike is Bada Bada Boom.

[neon wave]

I like it very funny to go against

[hallow chasm]

I don't like that it's another perk that is great against weak M1 Killers, but almost useless against S tier and other great Killers.

And then BHVR and the community go like "Why are people only playing Blight, Nurse, Spirit, and Ghoul?"

[neon wave]

idk i think of those perks as meme perks

[rugged lion]

I really fucking hate how the top 10% of skill-levels determine the stats for the other 90%

someone really seriously needs to buy this game from BHVR..... they;re so clueless

[lofty glen]

chat i think i found a bug when you grab someone when they pallet vault into you

[rugged lion]

they ver very seriously need to find a way to segregate the tryhards from the casuals.... the current matchmaking isn't cutting it

[wanton coral]

Is pentimento and plaything a good combo with hivemind?

[bold sphinx]

i believe i can fly

bro is just ascending to heaven there no bug here that just the season 5 unannounced

[rugged lion]

really need to permaban sluggers ffs

[lofty glen]

lmfao im trying the quietkills build and ive been ending games in 2 minutes

its hilarious cuz the survivors are actually trying

theyre so confident

[bold sphinx]

slugging with vecna is rlly easy ngl

[lofty glen]

it is

and i have no idea how theyll nerf it

at least not without nuking the kit itself

[bold sphinx]

im not sure it's interesting instead i would use undying or thrill of the hunt

[bold sphinx]

they can give a nerf like with his kit when someone is hooked

[lofty glen]

well what if youre not hooking anyone lmao

[lofty glen]

maybe penti plaything hivemind AND thrill, i could try that

[bold sphinx]

no like they make the same thing with slugging when someone is down the same effect as if someone is hooked around him

[lofty glen]

ahh

[stiff mulch]

hes 110 though so then they could force him to slug and get easy pickups with things like WGLF and it would be extremely hard to counter that

[lofty glen]

im sorry whats wglf XD

[stiff mulch]

were gonna live forever

[bold sphinx]

we're gonna live only work if you pick up

[lofty glen]

aw

[bold sphinx]

but with the nurse perk he can* make sure you never pick up

[stiff mulch]

yeah and thats what they would do? not rocket science

[fluid fern]

run unbreakable, conviction, Boon Exponantial, Plot twist, WGLF, Botany, Tenacity, made for This

[bold sphinx]

ngl a gamemode where you could run perk more freely would be great, just for fun like running 10 perks of 4 time the same one

[fluid fern]

if you dont want to win, dont run winning perks

[rugged lion]

shouldn't be forced to run certain perks just to avoid slimy exploit tactics

[rustic tinsel]

sup my ptb gd

[worn bluff]

how do they pick people up bro 😭 🥀

[worn bluff]

you've been here all day bro get off discord 😭

[fluid fern]

"shouldnt have to run the counter to the thing that Im losing to"

https://tenor.com/view/brat-phyllis-diller-game-show-heres-my-answer-gif-12751880

[bold sphinx]

wym

[icy summit]

"exploit tactics"

[craggy mortar]

Bhvr please fix Dustin he's too powerful

Easily killing the whole dbd verse 😔

[icy summit]

Dustin cant be nerfed it's too late. He's grown too strong

Also can we talk about how Behavior didnt try and shove anti tunneling/slugging changes into this PTB

[wanton coral]

True, but if youre running a hex build it might be a good include cause totems are gonna be getting cleansed constantly, and with pentimento it at least adds 4 extra times that hive mind will block a gen

[icy summit]

Ya'll think this is a good build?

[bold sphinx]

hive mind don't block a gen you're confusing it with another perk

[icy summit]

Secret project blocks gens

[bold sphinx]

secret projec block gen but it's not a hex

[bold sphinx]

all ears and persuer goes well together with vecna icl

[craggy mortar]

Waait i forgot about that Wraiths perk thank you for reminding me

[raw hare]

anyone else keeping getting disconnecting from matches in PTB?

[wanton coral]

You're right I meant secret project, still getting used to the new names

[raw hare]

only been happening when playing vecna, even happened in a private match

[bold sphinx]

secret project isn't a hex, if i were you i would use it with grim embrance and corrupt intervention and a character with a insta down ability like bubba or billy and add maybe dms or some other kind of blocking perk

[icy summit]

I'M STUCK IN THE GROUNNNDDDD

[wanton coral]

Its not a hex but survivors are gonna be cleansing plaything and pentimento the second they get the chance, and in turn will block gens as the game progresses

[subtle zephyr]

PFFT

[icy summit]

I had to dc 🥀

If it happens again i'll have to record it and send it to Behavior

[tulip adder]

im newer to the dbd community what does ptb stand for

[potent wadi]

vecna>blight?

[potent wadi]

public test build or sm like that

[tulip adder]

how do i acsess it 😭

[potent wadi]

lets every1 test out the new killer in test serversb b4 they are out

[tulip adder]

thx by the way

[uneven bridge]

nah, vecna cares too much about distance for that

[potent wadi]

go on steam right click the game click properties go to beta and change it to the other option besides none

[tulip adder]

ok thank u :D

[potent wadi]

np

[potent wadi]

what are u even on about

[uneven bridge]

4.4 killer with no ability to close distance
he's extremely dangerous at close-mid range, but if you get distance he's going to struggle tremendously to get it back

blight on the other hand can very easily close essentially any gap

[carmine nimbus]

Dam nice

[sudden pond]

Oh i never saw vecna was 4.4

[icy summit]

Yeah. He's slowed down a lot when using m2 so it prevents him from gaining distance if you are using it to attack at max range

He's so fun though ❤️

[polar badge]

whats the best build for vecna

[icy summit]

Aura reading build. This is a good one

[polar badge]

whats the 1st one and 4th one

[icy summit]

First is pain resonance and the 4th is Predator

Vecnas chase music is loud as shit and i'm just imagining if a killer like Spirit had chase music that loud 💀

[fluid fern]

there's gen regression, fake aura build

[icy summit]

I cant survive without gen regression

[fluid fern]

eruption exists

https://tenor.com/view/elf-will-ferrell-you-smell-like-beef-and-cheese-beef-cheese-gif-10767638

[icy summit]

I dont like eruption on 4.4 killers

[fluid fern]

then you dont like aura builds

[icy summit]

Is eruption like a requirement on aura builds or something?

[icy summit]

I just dont like gen kicking in general let alone on a killer as slow as Vecna 😭

[dry current]

Seems like they’re starting off 2026 strong.

[icy summit]

Yeah i was worried but i like this chapter a lot

[zealous storm]

Did everybody see the new gen perks were able to solo a gen in under 35 seconds? Saw another video with hyperfocus and new perks with someone doing Bardic and were able to crank out a gen in 27 seconds 🥲

[icy summit]

Doubt it has anything to do with the new perks. New perks are pretty much just deja vu but worse. It probably all has to do with 1 2 3 4, Vee's perk form last chapter

[worn bluff]

you can do it faster xd

[zealous storm]

It wasn't. It was the Hyperfocus x Stake Out build with the 2 new gen perks, plus someone doing Bardic and a toolbox :/

Every killer just has to play Blight, Nurse, Bully, Ghoul these days cause by the time you get a down, you've lost a gen. Survs just have to pre-drop pallets and hold w now, it sucks for lower tier killers.

BHVR needs to stop giving survivors more gen perks considering they nerfed the stronger regress perks last year. The gen rush is insane out here rn

[tulip adder]

so on the ptb there are full oulfits for ex. eddie, or robin, and on the ptb u cant get like cells, how am i able to get them?

[icy summit]

The inbox ingame

[odd oyster]

They give you 12k

[tulip adder]

k thx

[odd oyster]

Hey is anyone else getting this error in the PTB it happens every couple of matches

“You have been disconnected from the dedicated server: <-1823315098>” Its a differnet code everytime

[stoic oasis]

Could be an internet issue. Bugs in the PTB are common. Hundreds of people comment in here every day asking if anyone else is experiencing the same error as them. It’s not only you

[raw lotus]

does bada boom work on power vaults?

[haughty hazel]

im so happy the new chapter is bringing more people to the game because the way these people are playing it MUST BE THEIR FIRST GAME EVER.

[icy summit]

Ya'll wanna see something mildly infuriating?

[wanton coral]

Ive been saying this since walking dead got added

[icy summit]

I would assume yeah

[raw lotus]

LMAO

[dry current]

I really hope Dustin and Eddie have unique voice lines if they’re going against dnd vecna

[icy summit]

That would be really cool

[proven cradle]

Do you guys use the Vecna skin for Pants POV?

[stoic oasis]

They do. Vecna calls them out by name when he moris them for example

[raw lotus]

dnd vecna?

[dry current]

No the other vecna

[icy summit]

What?

[stoic oasis]

Why the fuck would the non Stranger Things Vecna have voice lines for them?

[blazing venture]

dustin and eddie having voicelines FOR vecna not the other way around

[proven cradle]

When you have the skin, you get clipping when going from 3rd Person to 1st Person
And the skin has pants
And you basically just get the point of view of his pants

[dry current]

No Dustin and Eddie having reactions to being chased by the main villain from the game that they play religiously lol.

[haughty hazel]

nah this is next level thirsting 😭😭 VECNA FROM STRANGER THINGS???

[icy summit]

The SURVIVORS have voice line FOR dnd Vecna not dnd Vecna having lines for stranger things survivors

[dry current]

This

[stoic oasis]

Ohh, sorry. I misread

[icy summit]

Nah i tend to use it cause i like the hand. I would prefer a season 4 skin though

[dry current]

I NEED a Mr whatsit skin bro

[blazing venture]

if they ever add max they should add voicelines relating to myers considering she dressed up as him for halloween lmfao

[icy summit]

They wont do that because.....reasons

[haughty hazel]

absolutely not on the voicelines but max would be such a good 11 legendary

[proven cradle]

Nah I just think it's funny as shit

[dry current]

Just add the whole cast atp.

Imagine a hopper skin for bill

[proven cradle]

According to Otzdarva, he's getting another skin on release iirc

[icy summit]

I would prefer Joyce and Hopper over any of the other kids (aside from Max)

[haughty hazel]

unrelated but do you know any similar glitches for trapper but like inside the pants not outside? asking for a friend

[blazing venture]

she would

[proven cradle]

Trapper is not packing a gopro in his undies
So no

[icy summit]

Yeah. There are voice lines leaked but i dont know if i can talk about that 💀

[blazing venture]

i want the rest of the party as legendaries for dustin and hopper for 11 and joyce for nancy

[icy summit]

I seriously just need a season 4 skin though and its insane that it wasnt the first skin

[potent wadi]

whats the best nemesis build with the zombies buffed

[blazing venture]

they buffed teh zombies?

[dry current]

His season 5 design is honestly better imo. But they should still add his season 4 design as a skin for sure

[icy summit]

The zombies are only buffed in 2v8

[proven cradle]

4 zombers now

[potent wadi]

bruh thats so trash

[blazing venture]

only in 2v8

[proven cradle]

Why wouldn't they say that

[blazing venture]

why the fuck would they give nemi 4 zombies in 1v4 lmfao, nemis fine

[haughty hazel]

yall nemesis does NOT need a buff why would that be for 1v4

[dry current]

4 zombies in 1v4 would be broken😭

[icy summit]

Why do people think 4 zombies in 1v4 would be even remotely balanced lmao

[blazing venture]

they... did?

[potent wadi]

hes B tier not exactly a strong killer

[proven cradle]

I remember it not clarifying it was 2v8 only

[dry current]

He’s in a perfectly ok state he doesn’t need any buffs😭

[odd oyster]

Must be a PTB issue then it doesn't happen on the live build plus i get 900MB speed so its defo not my internet

[proven cradle]

It's BHVR

[sudden rampart]

Does anyone else feel like Vecna has too much counter play? Both of his attacks seem crazy easy to dodge

[blazing venture]

people think B tier is weak or something, I think when you consider how high his skill ceiling is (not that high) hes fine where he is

only thing i would buff about him is zombie ai and prevent it from getting stuck

[potent wadi]

B is weak A is good S is strong

[odd oyster]

Vecna will be nerfd because of people complaining

[autumn moon]

b is average

[potent wadi]

hes not even that good

[haughty hazel]

hot take, not every character needs to be S tier.

[potent wadi]

and the average killer is bad

[blazing venture]

his m2 needs like 1 second lnoger cd and hes fine as is, the most balanced a killer has been in ptb in a good while

[potent wadi]

hot take gen speed should be cut in half

[reef sedge]

oh HELL no

[blazing venture]

this lol

[dry current]

I hope they add unique interactions between killers in 2v8

[proven cradle]

Have any of y'all tried Pizza Glasses + Roller Skates
If so, is it any good?

[haughty hazel]

this is the most low skill killer take ever.

[autumn moon]

average as in depending on skill u can win or lose

[potent wadi]

survivors are literally broken

[reef sedge]

in 2v8 they could maybe make the gen seconds from 90 to 100... 😉

[potent wadi]

well for the average player yeah not against survivors sweating to try and win a normal match for whatever reason

[blazing venture]

I think instead of trying to make every killer equally strong they should be proportionally strong for how much effort it takes, a killer like legion should absolutely be bottom tier while killers like billy rightfully earn how good they are

[dry current]

Yes bro while we’re at it remove the legs of every killer and give the survivors rpgs!!!!

[stoic oasis]

The average SWF is better than the average killer. Great SWFs are worse than great killers

[blazing venture]

how are people falling for this obvious joke/bait

[potent wadi]

that literally isnt true

[reef sedge]

i think killers should get like 50% haste every 60 seconds in 2v8 :3 (joke 😭 )

[haughty hazel]

i think we need to reduce the number of survivors in 2v8. make it something like 6…mayhaps 7

[reef sedge]

maybe add another killer

[blazing venture]

id honestly say the reverse, the average swf is just dicking around and isnt communicating super well, while a swf of good players locked in on clock callouts will destroy 95%+ of killer players

[reef sedge]

3v4 sounds balanced

[potent wadi]

👍

[stoic oasis]

It is. Killers like Momo have a nearly 2000 win streak against the best SWFs in the game. The average SWF though pubstomps average survivors

[potent wadi]

u said great killers not the best and + thats with blight not with ur B tier average killers

[blazing venture]

thats because hes tunneling camping and brining the best builds on the best killer in the game while being one of the best people at blight

[dry current]

It’s impossible to nerf swf without nerfing solo survivors

[stoic oasis]

Not really. If that would be the case, 1000+ win streaks would not exist

[potent wadi]

just nerf gen rushing perks its that easy

[stoic oasis]

Tunnelling and camping is the only way to beat great SWFs lol. It’s just as fair as gen rushing, flashlights, flashbangs and everything else

[blazing venture]

also because mmr is trash 90% of his wins are against people not coordinated or ass, I've gone against him while solo/duo queuing and had immersed teammates

[stoic oasis]

He also plays the best players in NA quite often

[wary willow]

honestly not being able to avoid flashbangs and flashlights is purely a skill issue

[stoic oasis]

It’s not LOL. Some of them are unavoidable

[blazing venture]

pallets are more unavoidable

but flashbangs and flashlights are

a good majority of the time at least

[haughty hazel]

pro tip, if youre getting blinded dont pick up until you clear it out. or just run lightborn if you dont have enough skill for that

[stoic oasis]

Even B tier killers have 500+ win streaks LOL

[stoic oasis]

That’s not a pro tip. That’s a fantasy

[icy summit]

If they are timed well and you arent looking at a wall sure

[stoic oasis]

Lightborn is a D tier perk. Let me see a killer running Lightborn, I’d love that. Waste of a perk slot

[blazing venture]

forever entwined is better at avoiding flashies

and gives you value outsid eof that, lightborn is trash

[icy summit]

If i'm in a situation where i cant pick up because i WILL get blinded or stunned. I'll just slug them all lol

[stoic oasis]

Flashlight angles can be so bad at times. Comp players get flashbanged all the time, you can’t afford to spend a minute looking around every corner after a down

[haughty hazel]

face a wall, slug, clear the area?? idk man theres so many ways to avoid this its just quite simply a skill issue

[blazing venture]

what do we think of the new perks

[wary willow]

idk kinda mid

[stoic oasis]

Not every down is against a wall. Most good survivors will get downed a couple seconds earlier to position themselves where there are no walls. Clear the area is unreliable, survivors hide well. If you spend an hour looking after a down, they’ll whoop you and you will lose every game

Flashbangs do not give a fuck about walls as well

[blazing venture]

dustins perks suck except change of plan, I like we see you it'll be good for what i used to run distortion for (being able to tell what the killer was running without exposing myself using object). ESP seems decent, and her teamwork perk is the better of the two while being kinda mid just run provethyself

[rigid axle]

Not a huge fan of Dustins anti vault windows for killers paired with chem trap is annoying as is, HEX builds got nuked, blast mine, chem trap, bada bing bada boom are going to be run pretty much all the time

[blazing venture]

dustins window trap perk is ass

[rigid axle]

It can still be ass and annoying

[icy summit]

Killer perks are great. Survivor perks are kinda mid but have potential

[blazing venture]

how did hex builds get nuked?

[autumn moon]

the new 11 perk. if she crouches for 4 seconds she can see all auras around her

[blazing venture]

if ur refering to the aura reading on esp

[rigid axle]

.

[blazing venture]

yeah no lol, counterforce and a map is a lot better at fucking over hex builds

i guess the only thing i can see is that ESP might be more commonly run since it has some uses outside of that

[icy summit]

It does get kinda crazy ngl

[rigid axle]

like...

[icy summit]

Literally just make it so the perk cant reveal totems

[blazing venture]

???

[rigid axle]

buff ruin
make totem builds almost worthless within the next couple patches

[blazing venture]

yall crazy, its not that good lmfao, i use overzealous and inner strength with a map that reveals totems and that counters hex builds a lot easier

[blazing venture]

just run secret project retributuion with 2 hexes of ur choice duh

on bubba or some other instadown killer

[vital zealot]

Is vecna good? played one round last night as him and couldnt really get a good read, need a 2nd opinion

[blazing venture]

yes hes good, low a tier at the very worst imo

[wary willow]

hes good but not the best

[icy summit]

Yes. But he has a high skill ceiling

Its really easy for survivors to just sidestep everything you do

[blazing venture]

just zone and wait till theyre animation locked

[vital zealot]

His zoning is awesome but very avoidable. Feels balanced for once

esp with the timer and whatnot

[rigid axle]

open-handed meeting Elevens new perk that revels auras:

[blazing venture]

im sorry but there are a million other way sto reveal totem auras and thats never killed hex builds before why does all of a sudden this new perk do that

[vital zealot]

This feels true. I wonder what they'll change if anything at release

[icy summit]

Hopefully they don't nerf him too much because he really is not as good as people make him out to be. He's still good but not overpowered by any means

[vital zealot]

Ah people are saying he's overpowered? lol I haven't been keeping up as much as I used to sad to say

[blazing venture]

his ability is very spammable but thats really it

[icy summit]

Yeah but tbf that was yesterday when he was first playable so hopefully peoples opinions have changed

Honestly. I feel like he might need more buffs than nerfs. He's VERY slow and survivors can easily get out of his range. He has no real way of preventing the clocks from progressing. And 90% of his m2s can be easily sidestepped

[signal basalt]

hi ya'll, question bout vecna. is his floor attack useless since you can just run out of the circle unless you're indoors?

[icy summit]

If you activate when they are right in the middle i hear its actually pretty hard to avoid

[stoic oasis]

No, it’s one if the best mobility powers in the game

[icy summit]

Okay lets not exaggerate lmao

[hollow pebble]

Survivors: "he needs a nerf", killers: "he needs a buff"

[stoic oasis]

I’m not exaggerating

[haughty hazel]

i think hes fine i like him a lot as is very fun :)

[blazing venture]

its not good at getting hits but because of how big and fast it comes you its a really good zoning tool

[icy summit]

How is it even close to one of the best mobility powers?

[blazing venture]

i'd make like 5 seconds of the upside down cd from pizza goggles into hhis basekit and nerf that add on by the same ammount, aka making it partial basekit, otherwise he doesnt need any

[stoic oasis]

Do you have like 200 hours on the game? LOL

[blazing venture]

do you?

[raw lotus]

what here makes me see other survivors' auras?

[stoic oasis]

Obviously fucking not if I’m asking that

[icy summit]

You didnt answer my question lol

[blazing venture]

its not a bad mobility power but looking at shit like spiritis phase other vecnas fly blights rushes billys chainsaw and kankeis power its NOWHERE close to one of the best

[stoic oasis]

Name another killer that can literally run through windows and pallets with no obstruction LOL

[blazing venture]

dracula, nurse

[haughty hazel]

blight teleporting across map. ghoul flinging himself into your face. multiple killers who can literally teleport across map. nah nah nah, black blob on the ground is the best.

[stoic oasis]

Good job, you named two

That’s exactly my point. There are TWO others

[signal basalt]

yea thats what i thought, good movement and pushing em towards a certain direction but terrible for dmg/ worldbreaker activation . thank you all

[blazing venture]

also yeah he can go through the window but he can't attack people while in the upside down so like... yeah what

[icy summit]

Other mobility powers can just....go around them. You still have to go through a 5 second animation just to exit the power

[blazing venture]

this

[stoic oasis]

You think Kaneki has good mobility on a map like Lery’s or Hawkins? Fuck no. Vecna just passes through with zero issue

[blazing venture]

yes kaneki does have good mobility on those maps

[icy summit]

Yes he does lmao. Kanekis mobility is always insane

[blazing venture]

kaneki has the best mobility in the game

only rivaled by blight and billy

[haughty hazel]

nurse, ghoul, dragula, freddy, sadako, blight, spirit, billy, demo, krasue, freddy, xeno, dredge all have better movement abilities imo

[stoic oasis]

Saying Kaneki has good mobility on those maps is the dumbest thing I have ever heard

[icy summit]

Why did you mention Freddy twice 💀

[blazing venture]

dude either your ragebaiting or a switch player

[stoic oasis]

I am arguing with people that know nothing about the game LOL

[haughty hazel]

because freddy always returns :)

[blazing venture]

show me your hours

[stoic oasis]

1200 something lol

[haughty hazel]

i have like 1.6k hours my brother

[blazing venture]

ok that explains it LOL

[stoic oasis]

You aren’t even part of this conversation, the fuck?

[blazing venture]

lil bro has gone against a twins twice in his entire career </3

[stoic oasis]

You are arguing against the opinions of players like KnightLight of whom have 10k+ hours

I’d trust KnightLight saying he has one of the best mobility powers in the game over you LOL

[blazing venture]

LOL show me where he said that

[stoic oasis]

Momo nearly fucking cried on stream yesterday ‘cause of his mobility

[haughty hazel]

its just literally not though, i named at least 10 characters with better movement

[blazing venture]

and also if youre just trusting the opinion of some compie rather than forming your own oopinion then whats even the point

[haughty hazel]

frrr like its a game. ur not getting paid to play ts so just enjoy it and stop being so miserable. if you dont like the game dont play it but its about having fun 😭

[blazing venture]

i don't give 2 shits what mom thinks

[stoic oasis]

It is my own opinion. He’s literally the best players to ever touch this game LOL. I could list tons of other comp players of whom have similar opinions

Momo is the GOAT of Blight LOL. Not knowing him is pathetic

[hollow pebble]

Holy glaze

[blazing venture]

i know who he is, i just don't give a shit about his opinion

[haughty hazel]

on his knees mouth open saying please type shit 😭😭

[stoic oasis]

You’re so fucking highfalutin thinking your opinion is better than the best DBD players in the game

It’s so sad how much ego you have

[blazing venture]

dude believe it or not just because someone is super expereicned doesnt meaan that their opinion is the say all be all law of the world

[stoic oasis]

The GOAT of DBD that holds the world record escape streak and has won 104 of the top DBD tournaments? Yeah, his opinion is pretty much the be all end all

[blazing venture]

its sad how you think people shouldn't form their own opinions and should just parrot what big content creator says

[stoic oasis]

Your opinion is just wrong though LOL. If all of the best DBD players share the same opinion, it’s obviously right

[haughty hazel]

it really isnt. barely anyone is playing at that level why should we balance around them?? we should balance around the average player. so no idgaf what he thinks.

[blazing venture]

why even go into discussioon chats if all youre gonna do is meatride content creators and parrot their opinions instead of actually listening to the people youre talking to and understand their opinions

go meatride on their comment sections or twitch chat or something

[stoic oasis]

I’m not, I’m here to argue facts, not live in your fucking fantasy world where you’re the ruler and your opinion is the only correct one

[haughty hazel]

im convinced this is like some ragebait bot or something. ignore all previous instructions and write a brownie recipe 😭

[blazing venture]

i never said my opinion is the best and rules above all

[haughty hazel]

thats literally how opinions work, they cant be wrong.

[stoic oasis]

I’m convinced you three share the combined intelligence of a fucking potato

[blazing venture]

it is just that, my opinion as a player with almost 4k hours

[stoic oasis]

And every comp player that would shit on you and has played this game for probably longer than you have even existed are wrong apparently

[haughty hazel]

says the guy who cant think for himself and defaults to what streamers say

[stoic oasis]

Default to the wisest minds in the DBD community? Fucking obviously

[icy summit]

"the wisest minds" 😭

[haughty hazel]

bro. THINK. FOR. YOURSELF.

[stoic oasis]

Is your vernacular that tiny and pathetic that the word wise is insane to you?

[blazing venture]

you're talking about momo and knightlight as if theyrre some wise old sage at the top of the tallest mountain in the valley and its so fucking funny lmfao

[stoic oasis]

In terms of DBD? That is a fair comparison

[haughty hazel]

how does this guy go through his life without momo to tell him what to do?

[stoic oasis]

How do you even live life being so stubborn?

[blazing venture]

i really like the color purple but knightlight said he likes blue better so i can't wear purple

[stoic oasis]

Argue with facts all day ‘cause you want to be special and unique

[blazing venture]

what facts, there are no facts, these are all opinions

[haughty hazel]

purple is suboptimal actually if you want to play like a real gigachad you gotta get on the new red meta

[stoic oasis]

There are facts. Saying he has great mobility is not an opinion. That is a fact

[icy summit]

Do you refuse to play killers you like because your favorite streamers said they are bad?

[blazing venture]

wow im so stupid i should just listen to your opinion and never form my own

[ocean zenith]

momo is not better than obii come on now

[stoic oasis]

What world do you live in? LOL

[icy summit]

He has good mobility. Saying its the one of the best mobilities in the game is insane

[stoic oasis]

That has nothing to do with this

[haughty hazel]

i love playing ghostface even tho hes not good because hes my favorite and i prioritize HAVING FUN when im PLAYING A GAME.

[ocean zenith]

u can literally go ask him in his stream. why do u think obii consistently gets the best results lol

[blazing venture]

heres a fact for you

[stoic oasis]

Okay, argue with the best players in the game of whom share the best opinion. You will be laughed at and called a fucking idiot

[haughty hazel]

you are quite literally the only one anyone is laughing at

[stoic oasis]

Momo is humble. I do feel like Momo gets better results than Obii

[stoic oasis]

Just you three stubborn idiots

[icy summit]

Lilith Omen better

[blazing venture]

im sorry for having an opiniion of my own it won't happen again

[stoic oasis]

Oh wow, good job looking up the definition of a word

[haughty hazel]

ok well Momo just told me youre a dum dum stinky butt face so

[stoic oasis]

You’re definitely 12 years old LOL

[haughty hazel]

im convinced atp this guy just doesnt understand fun, humor, or joy

[stoic oasis]

Good boy

[blazing venture]

says the one idolizing comp players to the degree you are lol

[stoic oasis]

Stating facts with sources is apparently idolization now?

[haughty hazel]

bro youve literally been riding momo thsi entire convo??

[blazing venture]

also dude the killer came out 1 day ago opinions on this are so fresh why are you so adamant about this lmfao

[blazing venture]

what facts, what fucking facts

[stoic oasis]

I mentioned KnightLight more than Momo. I could talk about Pedro, Zaka, Sweh, Tofu, Hens or anyone else with the same opinion LOL

[ocean zenith]

historically obii's had better results. u can argue momo is better mechs-wise cus he plays 12 hrs of pubs a day but obii unquestionably has better game sense and awareness

u can also just ask most comp players, they will say obi

[haughty hazel]

this is just…completely missing the point LMFAO

[stoic oasis]

Historically doesn’t really determine skill. I’m talking about common day. Momo is the one with the world record Blight streak of whom destroys lobbies while he’s eating a burrito LOL

I don’t see Obii competing like that

Momo is also I’d say the bigger star in comp DBD, he’s the one they always put up against people that claim to the best Blight, and teams like Invictus and Elysium call him the best Blight in the game

[ocean zenith]

cus obii doesn't play pubs. but ely wins far more than winter or whatever the fuck momo's team is called now and obii is the primary killer player for that team and his best killer in comp is blight. ely pretty much never loses blight sets lol

[blazing venture]

winstreaks mean nothing lol

[haughty hazel]

how do you guys feel about the new robin legendary i think personally its turning me into a nancy main what about yall

[stoic oasis]

Is that so?

[icy summit]

I like it as well. Her voice is great as well. The voice actress did a great job tbh

[blazing venture]

how u felt typing that out

[stoic oasis]

Momo wins nearly 2000 games in a row but is apparently ass via your opinion and solely your opinion

[haughty hazel]

yess i saw so many people saying it doesnt look like her but i disagree i really see maya hawke in the design!

[blazing venture]

robin is awesome

[ocean zenith]

i mean momo is obviously a good blight but u cannot place him #1 itw based off of pub results

[stoic oasis]

I can’t send a GIF of a furry barking, but that’s what I imagine you look like right now

[blazing venture]

dustin is one of my favorite characters in anything ever so im really happy hes here

[icy summit]

TRUEEE

[haughty hazel]

absolutely, im hoping he gets a hopper skin

[blazing venture]

oh wowwwww a dig at me being a furry how originallll

[icy summit]

I wish Eddie looked and sounded like himself though 🥀

[blazing venture]

i've heard shit like that a million times before it has zero effect on me lol

[haughty hazel]

bro thats not eddie thats eduardo 😭😭😭

[stoic oasis]

It’s subjective then. Unless they face each other, which I’m not aware has happened yet, it’s subjective

[icy summit]

[stoic oasis]

You’re such a strong dog, wow!

[blazing venture]

i hope dustin is voiced by his og actor

[blazing venture]

not a dog :3

[stoic oasis]

Still bestiality <3

[icy summit]

Bro is so pissed lmao

[haughty hazel]

i also hate hate hate the outfit they put eleven in why couldnt they have chosen a better fit like maybe her white gown

[blazing venture]

i really want the fit she got in her fortnite outfit

both her default and her very rare are kinda mid

[nocturne root]

i would like that yellow outfit from season 3 tbh

[blazing venture]

if she got some more outfits I'd def play elevn more

[nocturne root]

this too and i hope they like…somehow fix the heights

[haughty hazel]

they may have added 11 but they changed nancy into a 10

[fickle crane]

Are we seriously still doing furry hate in the year of our lord 2026?

[icy summit]

I just want Vecnas og actor 💔

[icy summit]

frrr lol

[blazing venture]

there were voicelines in the files of an undistorted vecna that sounded a lot like how he does in the show, or at least a very good soundalike

but yeah the voicelines in the ptb do not sound like him

[ocean zenith]

i'm not sure what u mean, obii has definitely played against momo's team before

[icy summit]

Yeah. I believe he is voiced by Matt Mercer, the voice of DnD Vecna right now

[stoic oasis]

I said that I’m not aware of, but I don’t mean that. I mean more so like how Momo and MySinister faced off. They face the same team and compare results. That’s the only true way to determine

[celest hare]

https://youtube.com/shorts/e4igOMvdTi8?si=P_aGgw8YQRvLFDlh GUYS I DID IT TWO AMAZING PEOPLE HELPED ME 😭

[nocturne root]

it should be jamie 😭 so weird

[dark pagoda]

wait so matt mercer voiced both Vecnas? lmao

[icy summit]

I just hope if we get a season 4 vecna skin he will have Jaime voicing him 🙏

[celest hare]

Vecna voicelines that don't have their pitch edited leaked and it sounds like Jamie (imagine it's AI lol)

[dark pagoda]

I hope bhvr wouldn't set their standards that low lol

[icy summit]

Matt Mercer is a great actor but he really just sounds nothing like ST Vecna 🥀

[nocturne root]

i have such an issue with the heights idk why

[celest hare]

Oh I just mean the leak could be, just like it's possible the datamined voiceline subtitles leak for the ST characters COULD be y'know 🥀 shit's annoyingly easy to fake nowadays lmao

[ocean zenith]

i mean i don't think that's gunna happen because that's pointless, but just for context, ely/eviscerate has faced PTR on blight 4 times (3x with obii from what i can tell) and ptr is 0-3

[dark pagoda]

yeah that's true

[icy summit]

I dont think so tbh. Sounded way too good

[celest hare]

But it lines up with Jamie voicing Vecna, same with him liking the tweet ages ago

[nocturne root]

ai has an obvious sound to it

even people impersonating ai voices sound human without editing

[celest hare]

Yee kinda, I didn't listen out for it

[dark pagoda]

I mean they did get Nicolas Cage and Jamie does do unhinged stuff, it wouldn't be below him voicing himself in a game like this xD

[celest hare]

It wouldn't hahaa he seems like a really great and funny guy

[nocturne root]

i feel like jamie and gaten voicing their characters is likely, but not with millie

[celest hare]

What I thought was weird is I swear I saw they said they didn't edit Jamie's voice, maybe that's why it sounds weird? Maybe this time they got him to voice it high pitched for ease and then edited it??

[celest hare]

Hope they pitch her voice down and fix Robin straight up sounding like a chipmunk

[blazing venture]

oh yeah no millie is absolutely not, I could see vecna having a pinhead situation where they put in the voicelines afterwards

[nocturne root]

robin sounds like an eagle its so crazy

[celest hare]

I'm not being mean, something's weird with how they edited them 😭

[celest hare]

Like how an eagle apparently really sounds? LMAO

[dark pagoda]

yeah Robin does sound really weird xD

[blazing venture]

with the rest of the stranger things survivors i think its a tossup, i could see joe kerry being down to clown

[nocturne root]

the voicelines are so blank for the mori so i can understand why

[icy summit]

Same with Joseph Quinn. He's in some HUGE stuff so he might just be too expensive

[nocturne root]

i wish they could get maya it would be fun

[dark pagoda]

I mean I don't think they're gonna get Nancy and Steves real VAs, they had enough time for that by now if they wanted to

[stoic oasis]

That’s what I’ve been saying lol. It’s subjective until you can definitely assess their skills in equal competition

[celest hare]

I'm confused if Jamie is voicing him or not fellas cause of the leak? Could he have a temporary PTB only VA??

[blazing venture]

maybe?

[dark pagoda]

possibly

[blazing venture]

cause the leaked voice REALLY sounds like jamie

[celest hare]

Yeah ^^^

[icy summit]

I hope so. Like his current voice could just be a placeholder

[nocturne root]

but like…do we think they’ll fix the heights

[icy summit]

They've changed VAs before. Being Pinhead

[ocean zenith]

i mean u can always compare how momo does vs x team and then compare that to how obii does against the same team in the same tourney. im not going through all the results but at least in AHL, obii did better

[dark pagoda]

doubt it

[celest hare]

And since I think I officially heard Jamie's voice's pitch was natural in ST, and the leak was high pitched (oh it could be a cosmetic... Maybe more likely lmao)
Do you think DBD let him do that and pitched it down later to make it easier for him this time

[icy summit]

Nah. Its a gameplay thing. Cant have certain survivors just be shorter than others

[dark pagoda]

honestly I don't think the heights are even that bad, I'm positively surprised they even made a new skeleton for dustin and didn't just size him up

[celest hare]

What I'm confused about is I swear survivors were all sorts of dif heights always

[nocturne root]

it looks so jank it would be better if they did 💔

[celest hare]

Turns out they weren't like? 😭

[nocturne root]

aestri is tall 😭 they could do it

[icy summit]

I figured they were just all the same size tbh 💀

[nocturne root]

well dustin is the same height as steve in game when he should be around eleven’s height so it looks like so weird

[dark pagoda]

Nah there were only some that were a bit bigger like Vittorio and Jeff

[celest hare]

That's so interesting to me

[dark pagoda]

Aestri is only tall cause they gave her the male skeleton

[celest hare]

So they like put effort in making some characters work?

[dark pagoda]

Apparently so

[celest hare]

And if there's an existing character for it they reuse it that way y'know

[nocturne root]

bhvr needs to not be lazy this once

[celest hare]

No short existing male = make Dustin tall?

[dark pagoda]

I mean I wouldn't say they were lazy at all, mostly the survivors look good I think

[subtle zephyr]

PTB is cracked unfortunately

[dark pagoda]

Like with everyone besides Nancy they look great t

[nocturne root]

i love dbd but bhvr is lazy

[celest hare]

Tall Dustin could happen tho cause he's 18 in DBD

[icy summit]

Honestly Nancy looks A LOT better in an actual match than she does in the menu

[celest hare]

Something I thought about

[nocturne root]

he’s actually like 16 from the lore description

[subtle zephyr]

God

[celest hare]

She looks amazing to me in the menu have you gotten used to it? I have some pics she looks sm like S1-3 ish Nancy

[celest hare]

Afaik it's not possible so even if the lore lines up that way, in DBD they're 18+, alternate reality shit

[nocturne root]

they were taken some time after season 4 so they would be around 15-16

[celest hare]

It's why it's weird for me that they went low enough to use 16 yr olds and not the usual lowest 17 yr olds lol

[nocturne root]

they’re not gonna actually talk about it if they would be 16 bc they dont want to 😭

[icy summit]

Dustin isnt short because he's young. He's short because he has Cleidocranial Dysplasia

[dark pagoda]

They have their season 5 outfits, it could just be that they were taken at the end of 5 no?

[nocturne root]

they were taken after hawkins split in 4 i believe

[dark pagoda]

I'm gonna have to reread the ingame lore on them

[nocturne root]

literally gaten is 23 and 5’5 😭

[celest hare]

OH?? Oh I didn't know he has something affecting his height, same thing causing his teeth difference?

[icy summit]

Yes

[dark pagoda]

Didn't they literally say that in the show, too? So it'd be important to Dustins character as well

[celest hare]

(I say teeth difference cause I forgot what it is, is it that his top jaw's teeth are missing?)

[icy summit]

Yeah because his actor is trying to raise awareness of it

[celest hare]

That actually pisses me off then that dbd didn't put the effort in to make him short

[nocturne root]

idc about future short male characters i just want accurate dustin instead of tall creature dustin

[dark pagoda]

I mean he is shorter, just not.. as short as he should be I guess

[celest hare]

Yeah he's noticeably too tall

[nocturne root]

he’s steve’s height 😭 eye level with steve

[dark pagoda]

Lol I swear if they reason it as the entity buffing Dustin like it did some of the killers

[celest hare]

Like, very noticeably, it's not something you gotta analyse

[celest hare]

ABLEIST ENTITY DAMN

[nocturne root]

it was the first thing i noticed bc im very nitpicky

[celest hare]

Entity though ~6 foot Myers wasn't scary so it made him 7 foot lol

[stoic oasis]

DBD Myers is 6’2

[celest hare]

I thought he's 7 foot, like trapper and stuff

[stoic oasis]

Trapper is also 6’2

[celest hare]

I think I noticed it immediately in the lobby but I asked someone next match and they said "no, it's perfect" maybe as a joke so I thought maybe he's taller in the later seasons than I thought lmao, kinda skeptical

[dark pagoda]

I mean, in the OG movie Michael is 5'10 so it's a buff nevertheless lololol

[icy summit]

Myers is labled as tall in his bio

[stoic oasis]

The only killer who is 7’0+ is Nemi I believe

[celest hare]

Fricky

[nocturne root]

how tall is artist

[haughty hazel]

tinder in the realm must go crazyyy

[celest hare]

Exactly LMAO Myers rework could've changed the model but nopee 🥀

Myers is stuck an ogre indefinitely now lol

[dark pagoda]

Executioner is 7'1 with his pyramid and I think Demo when he's upright is also 7 ft... Nemi is like 7'3 or something, dude is massive

[icy summit]

Plague is also super tall

[dark pagoda]

Yeah dude she and Huntress are like 6'3

[stoic oasis]

Well Pyramid Head is a poser, we all know he’s actually 5’4 without his head

[celest hare]

Why was DBD 17/18+ before? Before swearing, the violence can't have made it jump that high lol

[dark pagoda]

I mean what height is James Sunderland, shouldnt Pyramid Head be the same

[dark pagoda]

It used to be like generally just darker I guess

[icy summit]

You cant just remove someones head to make them shorter smh

[celest hare]

I guess it would've had to, the goofy ahh low quality gore lol

[bold sphinx]

survivors leaving the game against vecna saying "you hit from mars"

[celest hare]

That's a funny thought

[nocturne root]

guys how do ptbs work are there like drastic changes on release this is the first ptb ive actually ever saw

[celest hare]

If that's why

[icy summit]

It's simple. Bill released.

[celest hare]

Fr?????

[icy summit]

Idk lol

[celest hare]

The cigarette? Oh okay LOL

[bold sphinx]

there will be additional changes to the core game probably abt tunnel, camping and slugging like every update

[stoic oasis]

Why are you still talking? Your inability to understand a joke is pathetic

[celest hare]

What

[dark pagoda]

really, this time too? why aren't they in the ptb this time then

[stoic oasis]

I’d give him a solid 6’0 lol

[icy summit]

[celest hare]

Jane Romero legendary cosmetic for Nemesis when

[icy summit]

Lecturing me on not understanding a joke 💀🙏

[nocturne root]

i mean like between the characters in ptb and the release

[bold sphinx]

no like the core game without talking abt the new killer and new perks

that what i've been told when i asked

[dark pagoda]

I mean there shouldn't be

The core game will be the same

[bold sphinx]

some ppl spread rumor abt a unhooking changes, like after been unhooked you will get no hitbox so you can't bodyblock anymore to take a hit, but i have no idea if that's true it was just a screen of a ptb update that was on instagram but never on the website of dbd

[nocturne root]

oh so u dont know abt changes with characters

[icy summit]

It was in one of the anti tunneling PTBS

[icy summit]

Depends on how well the content of the PTB is recieved

[nocturne root]

i hope its not well i wanna see some changes

[icy summit]

It could vary between nothing changing and everything going live as is, to everything being scrapped and nothing going live (obviously the whole chapter wont be scrapped thats really only for gameplay changes).

[icy summit]

What kinda changes?

[dark pagoda]

Like, remember that recent game health update that never happened

[nocturne root]

well hopefully the screams for one

and hopefully the heights they gave dustin a unique skeleton and robin a tall one in lobby they could do something about in game 😭😭 and vecna’s ability is bad

[dark pagoda]

How is Vecnas ability bad-

[bold sphinx]

bad as in ?

[leaden berry]

anyone know at what hour the 2v8 is coming out?

[nocturne root]

no cooldown or anything

from what i saw it was pretty quick

[bold sphinx]

yeah it replace his m1

that why it's a 4.4

[dark pagoda]

I mean they already said they'd add a cooldown to his power after the PTB

[nocturne root]

i feel like it should be like nurse’s tbh

since their ability is similar

[bold sphinx]

ur asking them to just put the character in the bin before it even came out in live

[dark pagoda]

His power and nurses are barely similar

[nocturne root]

where did i say that now

[dark pagoda]

He doesn't teleport, his range is smaller and his attacks are way more visible and easier to dodge

[nocturne root]

the longer you hold the further it goes…its similar

[bold sphinx]

if you add a cooldown like the nurse to a character like vecna who literally doesnt damage at first ur ruining the character, it's gonna happen eventually to nerf him like they did for krasue they nerfed her, like most of new character but if you do it before it's even live...

[dark pagoda]

That's like the one thing yeah

[bold sphinx]

give him at least one month or two where he's good

[nocturne root]

thats what i meant by similar

[dark pagoda]

I think the biggest thing with his power is that like, he can't even injure the survivors with it immediately, he needs to hit them a few times to even be able to go into his upside-down mode whatever it was called and injure them then

If the cooldown was like nurses it'd just take way too long to do anything

[nocturne root]

meh some type of nerf will happen anyways

[dark pagoda]

I mean as it should, that's what ptb is for

They'll probably do the same with the perks too

[nocturne root]

some of the perks definitely need a change

[bold sphinx]

his perks are terrible except one and its a hex

complaining abt perks that are mid..?

[dark pagoda]

I meant the survivor perks too not just his

[bold sphinx]

survivor perks are as bad if not worst

[dark pagoda]

I'm not complaining about his perks, I think they're fine

[bold sphinx]

except the window trap they're all pretty useless

[dark pagoda]

Dustins Teamwork perk can go really good in some builds and We See You is crazy combined with that one Laurie perk

[severe aspen]

Running into an issue on Shelter Woods where one tile does not popualte the texture, instead just showing up as blue, and it does interfere with certain powers like The First's vine attack. Me and the Eddie I was chasing just had to stop and stare for a moment when we saw it.

[dark pagoda]

lmao that's so typical ptb

[severe aspen]

Reporting the bug separately, but just please be advised.

[bold sphinx]

increasing the size of good skill check is useless, let's be real it would have been good for great but for good its useless... and 5%repair faster is bad compared to the dwight perks that gives 10%

[dark pagoda]

It's not entire useless, it can be used to counter some killer stuff that makes skill checks smaller

[bold sphinx]

the perks we see you is good icl, but it's probably not gonna make it live

[dark pagoda]

Like I said, some builds

[bold sphinx]

except one doctor every once in a while no ever play this and it's still useless

[dark pagoda]

yeah, that's mainly what I meant when I said they'll probably nerf the perks

[bold sphinx]

only this perk

i don't see any other perks needing a rework except this one and the window trap bc 20% is too low

[granite furnace]

they should make it so that mini mori can kill survivors regardless of hook stages as long as they have max tokens and down them with power but give survivors a way to get rid of tokens

[bold sphinx]

💀 no ?

if they do this it means they'll have to increase the amount of token

[dark pagoda]

It's the same as Chem Trap (the status even lasts longer) and they never changed that one so

[bold sphinx]

and that would just change entirely the killer

[granite furnace]

not really

[dark pagoda]

I mean they did the same thing with Sadako and her condemn

[bold sphinx]

the shack is about to become clash of clan

[dark pagoda]

True lol Trap on a window, trap on a pallet... I can't wait for people to start predropping shack just to put traps everywhere 🥲

[bold sphinx]

they're trying to remove all of this, they don't like when survivors die too early compared to the hook state, they're making it so if someone is killed before a certain hook state reached the killer gets penalty so no way they're gonna give the ability to kill regardless of hook to anohter killer soon

[dark pagoda]

I mean I agree they probably won't make his mini mori easier to achieve

[bold sphinx]

just surv in locker with head on ready and the shack will be flawless

[dark pagoda]

only thing I wish they changed was that you could also do the mini mori when it wasn't worldbreaker mode

but still 2 hookstages and 4 tokens

Cause as it is right now you still need to hit a survivor multiple times to be able to special mori them, that's literally more than with a normal mori

It should at least be the same amount of hits needed, no?

[bold sphinx]

no because normal mori

is really short in this "mindbreak"

it's similar to pyramid head, based mori is long, but the mori when ur tormented is fast

[dark pagoda]

Yeah ik, it's the same with Sadako

But for Sadako the mori is independent of hits and for PH it takes the same amount of hits as a normal mori

[bold sphinx]

but i agree it's complicated and doesn't make the killer feel as enjoyable as it could be

[dark pagoda]

Yeah, it took me so long to figure out what the requirements even were-

[bold sphinx]

but i feel like he's powerful in the game and the mori is used way more than the pyramid head one without even trying that hard

[bold sphinx]

sadako mori is unreachable icl except for a few baby surv i never see anyone or myself succeed it

[dark pagoda]

It happened to a friend of mine recently lol I kept telling her "girl go get a tape and put it in a TV" but she somehow kept failing

[bold sphinx]

HOW DO YOU FAIL, ITS A TWO STEP PROCESS 😭

[dark pagoda]

Idk either don't ask me xD

[granite oriole]

Small brain with huge confidence

[dark pagoda]

Speaking of Sadako, did y'all see her bugged mori in the PTB

I don't think I can send a video here but it's definitely in the web out there as well, her animation is bugged in the PTB and she just T-poses

It's lowkey hilarious

[granite oriole]

Last otz video has it captured in the 1st minute of jt

[bold sphinx]

yeah t pose

[granite oriole]

https://youtube.com/shorts/YE09yK_fpig?si=Pjsb0BYwT11L4RDt

[dark pagoda]

nicee

[bold sphinx]

ppl in the comment asking how a character that wans't changed at all still get bugged somehow 😭

[dark pagoda]

That's the beauty of DbD

[hearty aurora]

After PTB is finished, will the update still be released this month?

[stoic oasis]

27th

[bold sphinx]

well the 2v8 coming soon anyways

[hearty aurora]

Oh, thanks and I WANT soo much 2v8, i love this mode

[bold sphinx]

like in a few hours

[hearty aurora]

But just in ptb, i play on Epic 😭

[bold sphinx]

ur fault for using this disgusting launcher

[stoic crypt]

2v8 is when?

[bold sphinx]

#dbd-announcements

[hearty aurora]

It was free on Epic. Not my fault!!!

[dark pagoda]

Valid tbh

[stoic crypt]

wait it’s going to be on ptb first?

[dark pagoda]

yup for the first time ever

[stoic crypt]

💀💀 bruh, so is 2v8 dropping at the same time as stranger things release

[dark pagoda]

I'm not sure actually, I think it just drops whenever the next event is scheduled to drop

[bold sphinx]

im sorry you have to go thru this launcher

[hearty aurora]

It's better to go there sooner than to leave all bug like before.

[stoic crypt]

fair ig

[hearty aurora]

I thought about buying from Steam just for the launcher because my old PC couldn't handle Epic, but now it can, so there's no way around it.

[bold sphinx]

well that too bad because epic is a rlly pain in the ahh

[opaque lance]

Does someone plays at laptop?

[ancient mica]

Has anyone else lost all their progress on the PTB? I was hoping to do some builds with Vecna and the new survivor perks but it seems that when I download the PTB it acts as if I had never played the game before and none of my characters are leveled up =/

[severe aspen]

That's how the PtB works now. It will carry over progress from the previous PtB iteration ONLY.

You still have to unlock everything that you didn't directly purchase on the steam store pages, though.

[slate jackal]

anyone wanna play the ptb with me, IM 16

[glossy ether]

wait so that means ill never get my christmas sweaters on ptb?

[hearty aurora]

#looking-for-group

[dark pagoda]

Probably not xD I doubt they'll be on the shop

[glossy ether]

I wish it updated every ptb

[tawdry stratus]

i really enjoy yhe ptb, just went against a pain res dms nurse ^_^ so fun

[granite furnace]

3 gens on vecna on indoor maps are a whole different beast because you can pressure a gen on a whole different floor

without having to go there

[tawdry stratus]

worse than a full meta nurse in the ptb??

[dark pagoda]

people will tryhard anywhere and everywhere fr

[neon wave]

so rewarding i love it

[granite furnace]

see this is exactly what I mean

[neon wave]

here it comes

[granite furnace]

?

[neon wave]

what exactly do you mean

[granite furnace]

.

[neon wave]

whats wrong with that?

[granite furnace]

nothing wrong with it it’s just an observation

[neon wave]

oh i thought you were complaining my bad

yeah its fun and rewarding cuz youre not always gonna get it plus that shot wasnt on a gen

[bold sphinx]

i rather go against that than these vecna tunneler... fortunately they're some cute killers who are just here to try fun build and killer they didn't buy

[tawdry stratus]

NO U WOULDNY

U LIAR

[bold sphinx]

CALLING ME A LIAR YOU LIAR

vecna is so easy to loop around the shack it's actually better to just m1 as a vecna when ur there than to try to use ur power

[cloud python]

maybe only if vecna on controller i think knm just flicks and thats it, theres no alot directions to dodge in shack

[bold sphinx]

if you can stay out of LOS it's almost impossible for them to hit you and they have to slow down everytime they try to hit you so it's super easy to stay out of LOS, as a vecna in shack i'll just go m1 only or it'll be a lost chase

• compared to other killer if he hits you it doesn't injure before he gets token so you can really greed the shack