ptb-discussion

[bright yoke]

im in a trio and were steagulling it up rn its actually the most fun ive had playing this game in months

[stiff mulch]

I will continue to DC as much as I like in the PTB because survivor gets matches instantaneously

[astral lion]

You want them to make entire assets for the Splatoon ability

[celest hare]

?

[uneven bridge]

yeah, but due to being 4.4 and requiring two hits before damaging, I think it's pretty chill

[stoic crypt]

his counter play is just holding w

[rotund lake]

i mean they can pull off the same trick like they did with spirit when she goes into trans

[feral wigeon]

Are the survivors voice acted by the original actors or lookalikes? For me dustin sounded very similar but im not sure

[stoic crypt]

u can dodge his abilities easily also, i dont think this dude needs a nerf

[white python]

they shouldnt have their voices yet, the survivors are placeholder until live

[stoic crypt]

survivors have voicelines but won’t be out till live release

[dark pagoda]

I agree tbh it's really easy to evade him

[rotund lake]

they only have to just add some vines for every map as an seperate asset for when the killer goes into the upside down and a little misty weather and done

[stoic crypt]

people saying he’s broken clearly haven’t played the ghoul ptb

[icy summit]

Vecna for sure isnt 😔

[feral wigeon]

The ones in the trailer though

[white python]

no clue, i dont think theyve said it anywhere

[junior sapphire]

MY GOAT GOT BUFFFEDD

[astral lion]

I kinda dislike this cuz the last time we had voicelines in the PTB the community found some issues to fix in the Live version

Feels like they maybe didn't bring the voicelines into this PTB to avoid similar backlash

[rotund lake]

can they still change such big features for the final version?

[astral lion]

Not that it worked because apparently lean sky went past in-house testing

[white python]

they could, they usually dont

[white python]

wouldnt surprise me

[rotund lake]

hmm its literally the one thing i was anticipating on the most

[dawn storm]

im expecting a mr whatsit skin soon for vecna with the lil hand on release or else idk ill flush down a toilet

[astral lion]

It's a lot of models and materials that you're asking for them to make within 30 days, while admirable

[rotund lake]

if only i could travel through the upside down and create portals

[icy summit]

I just want season 4 Vecna 🙏

[brittle swift]

That would be a cool excuse to make survivors invisible, maybe give a xeno like ability where yiu can see footsteps but not the survivors themselves

[white python]

honestly i still cant decide if i like him or not, hes a intresting killer

[rotund lake]

yea exactly likke that

[icy summit]

https://tenor.com/view/vecna-on-phone-vecna-vecna-stranger-things-stranger-things-gif-26127549

[rotund lake]

or with light flickering

[craggy mortar]

He's 4.4?? Damn i didn't notice at all

[brittle swift]

Im mostly worried about the unavoidable health state from burrowing

[solid compass]

WHY IS THERE A GHOUL CAMPING AND TUNNELING IN PTB

[rotund lake]

doesnt have to be all quality yk, just the concept of traveling in the upside down through its atmosphere is just neat

[white python]

you cant escaspe it
you cant run
Ghoul will tunnel and camp, ptb or live

[solid compass]

[craggy mortar]

Also you have a guaranteed hit or worldbreaker with nurses calling aura

[brittle swift]

Yeah auras gonna go crazy on this killer

[severe aspen]

TBF, probably got tired of getting run around with The First and wanted to turn their brain off for a bit.

[icy summit]

Thy are just testing out all the ghoul changes this PTB

[solid compass]

But he picked the worse survivor fot it

[craggy mortar]

They already are, I'm playing with an aura build survivors must feel like they're doing a bossfight

[solid compass]

that poor ghoul 😭

[white python]

yeah aura will prob be meta on vecna

[brittle swift]

Can his power be casted up floors

[granite furnace]

I'm genuinely obsessed with turn back the clock

[granite furnace]

yes

[brittle swift]

Dope

[snow tusk]

Just look at patch notes, all the perks seem good/borderline usable/really good/bully squad material

[stoic crypt]

ghoul didn’t get changed did he?

[granite furnace]

I'm so happy with the perks. so much build potential

[snow tusk]

True

[raw lotus]

does we see you proc on object of obsession?

[snow tusk]

I can’t wait for bully squad to do full hindered builds (CoL, Chem Trap, Bada Bada Boom)

[snow tusk]

You mean deerstalker?

Oh you mean the 30 second intervals on object

[raw lotus]

no, it obviously does. I mean on object cuz the killer sees your aura but technically doesn't reveal it himself

[flint granite]

I can't access ptb?

[raw lotus]

what else is object for lol

[granite furnace]

Undergate attack is abysmal dogshit

[snow tusk]

Well it said as long as your aura is revealed

Doesn’t have to be the killer’s perks to do it

[granite furnace]

Thanks for the build idea gonna test this out

[snow tusk]

So come and get me Ig could work

[raw lotus]

technically this wording makes it so

it's not "when your aura is revealed"

[snow tusk]

Test it out

[median cosmos]

gotcha I never knew that

[raw lotus]

yea, I just figured maybe somebody knew beforehand lol

[haughty hazel]

im so happy the ptb is just pc players so i can use the pregame chat but noone is laughing at my funny stranger things jokes… :(

[flint oyster]

if they are death hook and max stacks, downing with your power does this

[snow tusk]

If it did work that way, four people on Object and WSY can chain reveal a non stealth killer

[icy summit]

Can you change the keybind for turn back the clock?

[flint granite]

Guys I can't access PTB. I can't pick other betas on steam!!

[raw lotus]

it only works when you're the obsession, so 4 objects doesn't do anything

[icy summit]

Restart steam maybe

[flint oyster]

it's Active Ability 1 (E by default), you can change it that way in your settings

[stiff mulch]

is this new tech?

[flint granite]

Already did! Twice!

[stiff mulch]

Dustin Speed blitz

[icy summit]

There is no active ability 1 key though. The only thing i have binded to E is my turn right key

[flint oyster]

dustin ftl+ confirmed

secret vecna upscale to wall level

[flint oyster]

it's really stupid but you need to look in the survivor section

i think if you change it there it should change it for killer as well

[wind merlin]

yep

[icy summit]

Ohhhhh

[lyric sand]

What’s the joke?

[vocal briar]

so the new teamwork perks are glitched. after using them on the first match, when i got to the lobby they went down to teir 1 and you cant remove them nor they show up in the perk list even if you search them

[runic flare]

have we seen any of the vecna game play yet?

sry if im a bit late lmao

[flint granite]

I even reset my entire PC and still nothing!

[misty crow]

Can the PTB be played on console or is it a PC exclusive

[vocal briar]

pc only

[white python]

yeah, otz already released a full video talking about his kit

[flint granite]

really? I can't access it at all

[haughty hazel]

i thought the bugs in the past were bad but now all i see is stranger things!

[runic flare]

ty ty i will look at it when i get home!

[vocal briar]

did you select it in steam instead of live server?

[hazy kraken]

I'd say he's ass both in terms of power and visual design

Already played him

[flint granite]

I'm on steam and managing properties. On the Betas tab you can only select 'none' on beta participation

which is how I remember it to be done

[vocal briar]

it shows up for me

[flint granite]

Nothing for me!

[hazy kraken]

Guess devs have beef with ya

[haughty hazel]

this channel really is proof that gay people will complain about anything wont we

[flint granite]

Am I the only one havinf this issue 😭

[hazy kraken]

Or you playing with egs version of game

[tawny portal]

guys where is robin?

[flint granite]

egs?

[hazy kraken]

Skins

[quiet iron]

i just realized we got two killers in a row whose whole aesthetic is being a fucked up meat tendril monster and they can use an ability to go low to the ground and traverse the map faster and they both have a token mechanic that makes you have to hit the survivor multiple times before you can do damage with your power

[haughty hazel]

nancy skin

[keen patrol]

i wish conformity gate was real that would have been so fire

[hazy kraken]

Epic Games Store

[tawny portal]

oh i thought it was for eleven

[flint granite]

I said I'm on steam

[hazy kraken]

Nah, she'll get seven skin

[tawny portal]

oh ok

[flint granite]

ptb went live while I was still on the game. I guess I'll try to touch some stuff and pray that does something

[reef sedge]

anyone having issues blinding venca when hes picking up a survivor? i was literally right infront of him from a slight angle and it didnt register at all..

[queen radish]

mid perks

[toxic dirge]

Seemed normal to me earlier

[rigid axle]

what if you wanted to vault a window or kick a pallet and survivors said "fuck you get hindered"

[reef sedge]

weird, could it possibly be like a hitbox issue on some maps? i was literally shining it right in his face (with both add-ons) and it wasnt making the audio cue at all

[lost aurora]

what are some good perks to run with the new ones on surv side?

[lyric sand]

[flint oyster]

i think its because theyve never implemented perk active abilities for killers before this, this has only ever been a survivor gimmick (stuff like dead hard, chem trap, etc)

[white python]

idk i got blinded like 12 times last game, i think its working correctly lol

[snow tusk]

Turn Back the Clock could be a Pop alternative now

[white python]

i feel like people might end up running both tbh, since pop can be used on gens with no survivors working on it and clock for ones with survivors

[tepid jasper]

Is anyone else having the same problem where the game just crashes from time to time when you rise from the Upside Down ?

[stuck depot]

whats a good / the best veca build? (im really bad so make it cheesy if u need to)

[lost oracle]

I just downloaded the ptb but I dont have any progress from my account? Is this normal? I just recently transferred from epic to steam but I dont even have the 10k auric cells u receive from the ptb or anything like that

[white python]

i think the cells should be in the mailbox

[granite furnace]

isn't it crazy that we got ZERO buffs for demo

[lost oracle]

Alright, the progress doesnt save though? Like me having unlocked all the survivors and killers?

[white python]

progress doesnt carry over from live to ptb, as far as im aware it should give you the killers you have bought the dlc for but thats about it, and im not even sure if it does that

[raw lotus]

did you test it yet?

[lapis copper]

The Nemesis:

Added 2 additional Zombies for a total of 4.
Increased Zombie movement speed by 35%.

[raw lotus]

for 2v8

[lapis copper]

yeah sadly

I'd love to have 4 zombies in normal matches and I don't think it would break things

[raw lotus]

it would be more annoying for survivors than anything

[granite furnace]

i forgot but i honestly don't think it'll work because of the perk's wording. It very specifically says that it activates when the killer reveals your aura, as opposed to any time the killer sees your aura

[solid compass]

Can Vecna SEE Survivors in his black blotch?

[granite furnace]

Yes

[solid compass]

That's......

[granite furnace]

ikr 💀

[solid compass]

It should be more like Spirit's phrase...

[upper surge]

so nemi's extra zombies arent showing up...o only eveer see 1-2 and usualy just 1

[raw lotus]

that's what I was thinking too, but it's worth testing. I'll test it later

[toxic dirge]

It's a third person traversal form, akin to Krasue's headlong flight

[toxic dirge]

It's 2v8 only

[solid compass]

Scratch marks, blood pools noises okay cool but bro is high-speeding the entire map and sees everything

[toxic dirge]

The 2 extra zombies are just to buff him in 2v8

[toxic dirge]

Leaving it takes a long time and gives him a long cooldown so it's kinda balanced out

Fairly simple to dodge too

[upper surge]

twell thats garbage and why make 2v8 changes when.....we cant test 2v8 XD

[tidal harbor]

Theres some "prototypes" made by fans for a demo rework, their so good they should add it🗣

[haughty hazel]

my other one is playing Robin and saying I can spot vecna across the map cuz i got hawke eyes

[toxic dirge]

You can test 2v8 on the PTB from the 8th-13th

[solid compass]

K cool but what if I combine it with undetachable perk? 💀

[toxic dirge]

He's already undetectable in it but survivors can hear and see the black blotch on the ground

[solid compass]

idk.........

[upper surge]

and i honestly dont even care anmoree cuz everyone on the ptb aree megasweats that are bullieing killer...i quit

[toxic dirge]

Alright

[odd bison]

what happens when the survivors are left in the state henry can mini mori them?

[toxic dirge]

They go down after a few seconds

Like into the dying state

[odd bison]

ooh cool

[fathom skiff]

is it bad to say i dont like nancy's reworked face

[toxic dirge]

Why would it be bad to have an opinion

[odd bison]

it looks so much better though...

[fathom skiff]

it looks nothing like her its just weird to me

[toxic dirge]

imo it looks better in-game than on menus

[icy summit]

I dont think it worked :(

[lyric sand]

[stuck depot]

are the queue times long?

[icy summit]

Killer queue times yes

[flint oyster]

well then theres no way to change it for now, wait until live 😔

[solid holly]

Anyone know why my ptb isnt the right one? I switched over to the only available branch and it had no new content + no characters unlocked

[toxic dirge]

Should be called "PTB"

Try restarting Steam if you don't see it

[craggy mortar]

Also Vecnas headbreaker or whatever it's called is so tuff the first time i did it i was shocked

[solid holly]

The one you've got there is the one I see

[toxic dirge]

It's so cool

[toxic dirge]

The one that says "None"?

[craggy mortar]

Also i did it on eleven and he said a custom line

[toxic dirge]

I'd still restart anyway. Or full shut down

[toxic dirge]

He has 2 custom lines for every ST character!

[solid holly]

The one that says public test etc etc, but ill try restarting ty

[craggy mortar]

That's so fun vecna gotta be my 3rd favourite killer, before knight and Nemesis...

[errant plinth]

What does ptbnmean

What ptb is meaning?

[toxic dirge]

$ptb

[dusty edge]

Learn about PTBs here: :link: https://forums.bhvr.com/dead-by-daylight/kb/articles/358-ptbs

[flint oyster]

i love how if you use the legendary skin and exit the upside down you have a 50% chance of getting jumpscared by vecna's fucking levi's

[granite furnace]

a damn shame that vecna and vecna and demogorgon arent in the next 2v8

why chucky and just chucky smh

[toxic dirge]

My goat

[flint granite]

I still can't accesssss

nvm it JUST magically appeared

[granite furnace]

is turn back the clock the first killer perk that requires you to press a button?

[odd bison]

can someone show me the full bio of henry

[haughty hazel]

guys if you cant access the PTB, its a santa claus situation youre on the naughty list for not having good enough BHVR

[celest hare]

Y'know watching Vecna kill Eleven is kinda

[stiff sorrel]

so can you decrease the tokens or nah

the red thing on your surv icon that he builds up on you

??

[celest hare]

I don't think so

Did it send that twice...

[haughty hazel]

you can they go away on their own but it takes FOREVER. not that they really do anything tho besides enabling mini mori.

[celest hare]

Oh wow cool

[haughty hazel]

guys i love the robin cosmetic i wish lesbians were real 😔

[civic bobcat]

why is vecna so pink tho

[faint escarp]

more like loserbians 🤣 🤣 🤣

[haughty hazel]

see this is how you take a cute joke and make it lame :/

if lesbians were real theyd be winnerbians in my heart 🩷

[faint escarp]

bro got ragebaited

nah ragebaited

[haughty hazel]

well if dbd isnt scary for you, try a job application, im sure that would give you a fright <3

[dense cradle]

Were there no balance changes for the base game?

[raw lotus]

why did dustin and eleven's perks just disappear on others even though the two are p3?

[keen kelp]

I’ve only played one real game as Vecna, but he’s a lot of fun. Feels like a weaker Nurse (not in a bad way)

[calm mango]

changes seem to focus on 2v8 classes this time around, along with bugfixes but not really balance changes for regular 1v4

[undone breach]

Low A tier killer ngl

[hazy kraken]

To me he's a weaker unknown tbh

[haughty hazel]

genuinely one of the best balanced killers on release imo

[hazy kraken]

C tier at best

[raw lotus]

he's nowhere near lol

[undone breach]

Yeah unknown claps

[steel nimbus]

yo anyone else get the "you have been disconnected from the dedicated server: <-1823315098> error message when you appear from the upside down?

it's pissing me off

[undone breach]

Hitting someone with ctrl is impossible if survivor has 1 brain cell

[open patrol]

Ppl that tried the ptb whats the most useful perk out of the bunch? (Eleven and dustin)

[haughty hazel]

hands down goes to Change of Plans

[solid holly]

I have no idea how but it was putting me on a version of the ptb that was 1. something

[haughty hazel]

i think different techs and strategies will develop but going for outright hits probably isnt best. had a vecna use ctrl to pressure a heal, we were almost done so he got free worldender.

[plush elbow]

vecna needs a cooldown on that vine power holy moly

[celest hare]

Did anyone else notice they also improved Nancy's lobby animations? Same animations just so much higher quality

And I'm fully used to her new face, trust me it looks just like her very often

Or don't trust me lol 🥀 remember it's also a younger Nancy than S5 and so

[celest hare]

Pleasantly surprised

[abstract quartz]

I like his upside down power a bit more than the vine thing

[toxic dirge]

It's a bug on the PTB

[undone breach]

I think vecna's m2 needs some cooldown and ctrl needs less windup

[abstract quartz]

What does the clock on your screen mean when you play venca

[celest hare]

Wow I'm obsessed with Nancy's new lobby animations 😭 I saw the vision before but everything was so stiff, like her fucking gremlin hands on her arms oml

[open patrol]

I thought so, but also does his repair speed perk stack?

[undone breach]

It means your abilities can damage survivors

[celest hare]

Her posture/resting pose is also >>>

[haughty hazel]

yess, running prove thyself and the two new teamwork perks is like ultimate genrush

[raw lotus]

good to know it's known at least

[open patrol]

Oh thats definitely getting nerfed😭

[abstract quartz]

Did demo get anything like a buff?

[celest hare]

Nope

[meager drift]

Did anyone check to see what auras El’s Extrasensory perk actually does anything with?

[abstract quartz]

😔

[toxic dirge]

no

[haughty hazel]

nah its lowk busteddddd like people out here claiming vecna is op and needs cooldown nerfs while i can finish a gen in like 30s

[flint oyster]

okay

[celest hare]

Yeahh </3 might on release tho no? Obviously super unlikely but

[void pasture]

Ngl I hate how there’s no dc penalty in the ptb bcuz I’m having matches ruined by my teammates dc’ing over nothing

[flint oyster]

people glaze this double vine iri but i swear i play better without it

[open patrol]

Running deja vu and prove thyself with that perk is abt to shut down 3 gens immediately 😭

[void pasture]

legit had an eleven who came up to me, shook her head no, and then dc’d on the spot and the match had literally JUST started

[abstract quartz]

We can only pray our boy demo gets some love

[celest hare]

Guys I'm so disappointed I thought Eleven's new crouching perk (which is cool but 🥀) would make the environment go black, floor would go wet, and all the stuff's auras would be all that show

[void pasture]

then the sable dc’d during the first 10 seconds of her first chase before she even got injured

[celest hare]

Kinda like inside security doors, wouldn't be that difficult

[void pasture]

like bruh don’t queue up if you’re gonna be a fucking pussy and dc for no reason

[celest hare]

I already forgot what the realm thing is called in ST

[void pasture]

Go play something else instead of ruining it for everyone else

[haughty hazel]

or for solo q swap deja vu with better together so you can get other people on your gen. you need two people for the perks. discordance boutta be meta asf

[plush elbow]

lemme put you onto the build

[abstract quartz]

Vecna looks fun, sadly dont have a pc but my friends saud he was fun

[celest hare]

Can we agree it's fair to DC against not Vecna's? (I didn't myself)

[plush elbow]

bardic prove thyself built to last stake out

[void pasture]

I think they called it the void

[plush elbow]

trust me its crazy

[abstract quartz]

I feel like info perks would be crazy on vecna

[celest hare]

That sounds right but what's funny to me is so is the ||'actual' void around the upside down||

[haughty hazel]

??? why run stakeout with no like hyperfocus or anything. bardic…maybeee but theres better in slot imo.

[celest hare]

Nancy's new lobby animations are smooth as butter nghhhh

[granite furnace]

going against badaboom + chem trap as killer is not for the weak

[ripe bison]

anyone else experiencing a bug in the PTB where the new killer perks arent avaialble on everyone else?

[celest hare]

Yep

[plush elbow]

trust me

[finite lion]

The First Pick Up speed is way to quick am I the only one thinking this?

[plush elbow]

every great with bardic does more than hyperfocus

[granite furnace]

is it not the same as every other killer?

[celest hare]

Same as every other killer (unless I'm missing something)

Your killer would've used a pick up speed perk

[fickle crane]

I think it might just be the animation. Clown’s pickup feels fast to me for the same reason

[open patrol]

OMG NEW IDEA UNLOCKED THANK YOU?

[celest hare]

New Nancy looks spot on but her new character portrait render thing should be burned in a fire

I mean it's not terrible

[ripe bison]

Its so funny how my big example of a different character who had never ever had their face fixed asside from Nancy got fixed in the exact same patch lmao

[celest hare]

Wait wait huh 🌝 whom

[ripe bison]

They fixed both Nancy AND Cybil

[celest hare]

Oh cool what about Cybil? Like rigging?

[haughty hazel]

am i crazy or do yall love the new models too. they look like the characters through a dbd lens. hyper realistic robin would be scarier than the killer.

[rugged lion]

I've been trying out this build: Full Circuit + Prove thyself + soft spoken + Deja Vu

[ripe bison]

her facial animations got really fucked up while she wasn't holding an item, most noticably while hooked

Theyve always been like this since the cosmetic was added

[celest hare]

LOL I love them but one issue, well Eleven's hair has weird lighting but it's a PTB
But Eddie, he looks like him a lot half the time and the other half like they didn't get the rights

[foggy hemlock]

dustin henderson with the mach 10 beamer save

[ripe bison]

And they only fixed it just now

[celest hare]

Paid cosmetic ugh 😐

[ripe bison]

Any chucky mains with thoughts on the chucky buffs?

[celest hare]

No idea why

[haughty hazel]

nah ur valid for that bc wdym, thats not eddie thats eduardo

[ripe bison]

This entire game has shit lighting

[celest hare]

I can't stop looking at Nancy's lobby animationsss

[ripe bison]

Oh, did they change Steve's voice?

[celest hare]

Ok good not just me LOL, I heard a complaint about the HAIR like what about the FACE

[haughty hazel]

nah for me the hair is good i just think his face is too wide

[shell pumice]

what was his buff

[celest hare]

Dialogue subtitles leaked from datamining and unless they're fake or the new characters talk to them one sided then yee

[haughty hazel]

get my boy on ozempic asap

[ripe bison]

I havent checked. Im uninstalling the PTB so I can reinstall it to see if I can fix it

[celest hare]

Oh voice I'm stupid, grunts screams etc are the same

[granite furnace]

turn back the clock is genuinely peak

[celest hare]

Chucky didn't get 1v4 buffs right?

[ripe bison]

wait no I misread the patch notes. He wasnt buffed hes getting added to 2v8

He got some bugfixes though

[celest hare]

Bummer but eh, I'd like it/be fine with it if they pitched it down a bit lol

[stray shadow]

i hope Extrasensory Perception is going to be nerfed

[celest hare]

Not many people have talked about Robin and Eleven's grunts of pain being way too high pitched, sometimes sounds straight up chipmunk voice level

[ripe bison]

Theres gotta be a legacy thing to keep his old voice. I hope so at least. Its so damned funny.

[celest hare]

The high pitched part is more preference/character accuracy or whatever but the chipmunk thing sounds straight up buggy lol

[haughty hazel]

i didnt even notice this bc im a perma iron will runner 😭

[celest hare]

Move it to a new original character loll

[celest hare]

If you heard it and put iron will on as a result I wouldn't blame you LMAO

[rugged lion]

new killer is pretty ass, but it's interesting how differing the opinions are

[shell pumice]

imo hes one of the most balanced killers on release, hes just released into a 25 second gen era

[haughty hazel]

imo if half the people think hes op and half think hes buns, hes pretty solid balance wise

[rugged lion]

some people think new killer is OP/Broken, others think new killer is a joke

[foggy hemlock]

hes good yeah

[celest hare]

Anyone else wish the clock SFX sounded exactly like the show's? It's fine tho lol

[haughty hazel]

this ^ definitely one of the most balanced on release killers

[rugged lion]

I think people are just gonna have a difficult time learning his mechanics for a bit

[slow kraken]

i do

[haughty hazel]

its a game, ofc its not fully accurate 😭 u want them to shove ur ass in the ACTUAL upside down atp

[foggy hemlock]

his power has 1 second cooldown bro

[celest hare]

YES 🙌 they should've used the same sounds 💔 maybe it's cooler this waytho

[shell pumice]

it also can be countered by teamwork

[rugged lion]

yeah it's pretty fucked how he can just duck into the underworld/upside down so quickly

[celest hare]

Guys what was the known bug/glitch in the notes about a 1s cooldown he's missing?

[foggy hemlock]

until u enter clock mode and the whole team takes damage

[shell pumice]

ur team can reduce the timer and make him stack over and over

[flint oyster]

he is in fact really good with I'm All Ears

[foggy hemlock]

hes still a good chaser tho

[celest hare]

Yeah aura shit on him pisses me off just like it does with nurse

[shell pumice]

hes good but nothing crazy, just like nurse

[celest hare]

But on him it's better ig

[flint oyster]

lowkey hes just a fairer nurse in general

[celest hare]

Yeah loll

[foggy hemlock]

hes a better artist with a 1 second power cooldown u can spam al game

[haughty hazel]

girl what- hes nothing similar to the artist 😭

[flint oyster]

if bhvr had balls this would have been the nurse rework

[celest hare]

New Nancy is so good bruh went from jarring to good to can't ask for more

[foggy hemlock]

i mean like u need to hold W against him

[flint oyster]

if its something its Pyramid Head But It's A Circle Now

[haughty hazel]

holding w is the counterplay to like half the roster

[foggy hemlock]

fair

[rugged lion]

welp, this is what the test build is for! Ironing out all the biggest complaints before the official update

[foggy hemlock]

i hope dustin will get more skins

[rugged lion]

Eleven ugly af

[foggy hemlock]

yeah so is nancy

[shell pumice]

we are overlooking these teamwork perks im speeding past gens

[haughty hazel]

i just PRAY that they dont tank him to the ground because people who cant dodge think hes OP.

[rugged lion]

eleven is both extremely ugly and extremely useless. BHVR not gonna make any money off her if they keep her as-is

[shell pumice]

i really really want this vecna in the game he's so much fun as he is

[raven flume]

I don't like vecnas voice

[flint oyster]

he's fun but 110 killers feel painful to move around with

if he was 115 i would have 0 complaints but that might also make him a little too strong

[haughty hazel]

agreed. this is one of the most fun and most balanced releases we’ve had

[shell pumice]

he doesnt have the struggle of getting into another chase after a hook though hes fine

[flint oyster]

yeah the upside down traversal is actually very useful it solves that problem for him

[haughty hazel]

yeah but traversing the upside down kinda makes up for his sluggishness besides in chase but thats just ranged killer for u

[flint oyster]

all in all, hmm... i think his addons could use a pass though theres a lot of really shit ones in there

i also need to get good at actually hitting people with the rising attack

[shell pumice]

i really like being a survivor against vecna too i feel like im involved in a high pressure chase instead of run around object until i need pallet for once

[flint oyster]

yeah it feels like playing against nurse and i honestly enjoy nurse gameplay

the only killers id say i actively dislike playing against are spirit (youre kind of fucked if youre injured and she phases) and trickster (break line of sight simulator 2025)

[haughty hazel]

the only thing is the hitbox on pools can be a little weird. ive been hit while not inside it but i think thats just kinda how ranged is with lag n shit

[thorny hull]

what exactly triggers the red? is it every 2 hits with the tenticals?

[foggy hemlock]

all they need to do is change vecnas power cooldown

[rugged lion]

they REALLY need to buff Eleven's perception perk. It's so fucking trash. I'd rather stick with Kindred + Still Sight + open-handed

[haughty hazel]

maybe im crazy but i really feel like the cooldown isnt too short. its a long ass animation and if he keeps spamming it just hold W and hes screwed

[shell pumice]

it feels like nurse but more skill instead of luck and not just insta death if something happens. and promotes teamwork and getting off gens to be involved with the killer. loving him so far

[flint oyster]

yeah i think the cooldown is fine, you need to think of it like doctor's shock therapy where the actual animation (and the slowdown tied to it) is the cooldown

[weary obsidian]

I 3 genned at lerys w this goober ahh vecna and won because each gen was only 20 meters apart and i kept spamming his vines on them through the walls for a 4k. I had only 3 hook states at one gen btw.

[flint oyster]

yeah he is insane when he gets a 3gen

[weary obsidian]

this killer is genuinely a 3 gen god on indoors

[haughty hazel]

but i mean as always w 3 gens thats on the survs, if they 3 gen themselves they played poorly

[rugged lion]

it's so painfully obvious that BHVR doesn't even play their own game, or test anything amongst themselves. They just throw shit at the wall and try to see what sticks

[thick turtle]

^^

[hazy kraken]

Well, what would we expect from a killer looking like generic zombie from TWD?

[nocturne root]

i hope nancy’s face rework and the character heights are all bugs or whatever and are fixed on the official release

[weary obsidian]

I think he’s fine and needs a buff plus 3 genning as a surv is a genuine skill issue IMO

It’s just hilarious he’s the new skull merchant basically

Trail of torment, eruption, pain res, no way out and he’s nuts.

[haughty hazel]

no way out is very busted on him fs

[rugged lion]

I won a match against bro where none of us survivors even got hooked once.... and buddy was actually trying

[granite furnace]

we can't even escape ghoul in the fucking ptb with a brand new killer

[last breach]

Does anyone know how to use the attack while he's in the Upside Down? It's extremely slow and almost no one falls for it.

[granite furnace]

it's basically useless unless you bait a survivor into vaulting

[last breach]

😪

His skills are too slow, I hope they buff that.

[tender flame]

Do you need 2 hookstates and 4 stacks to Mori?

[last breach]

Yes

The person needs to be floating for that.

[agile sparrow]

Am i wrong to think Vecna is kinda like Nurse in a way to just not have to deal with pallets or windows

[devout warren]

how does the mind break thing work? i just hit some robin at the exit gate by accident with it and slimed her out... didnt know the big v could do that. his power description also doesnt mention it

[tender flame]

Thought it's like sadako where you need 4 stacks without hookstates

[tender flame]

Imo it's just a more glorified spirit with huntress in addition

[rugged lion]

it's really interesting how differing the opinions on new killer is. Some think he sucks ass, others think he whoops ass

[tender flame]

He's just like a krasue, spirit and huntress having a baby

[stuck depot]

guys what tier do we think vecna is?

[last breach]

I don't really know, but by the time I get all 4 stacks on someone, they're usually already in the late game with 2 hooks.

[tender flame]

He doesn't damage you outside his mode, and he ignores pallets in a way and he can just phase out of the map and appear

[agile sparrow]

I can see Vecna being high on the tierlist for mobility and the similar reason Nurse is being he ignores the Survivor counterplay

[last breach]

I think he's a B (more or less).

[haughty hazel]

if everyone thinks he either sucks or is great hes pretty balanced. if everyone thinks hes a mix of 8 different killers then hes pretty original!

[tender flame]

He doesn't really ignore counterplay, he just has a high skill expression and a kit to compensate and reward you for good hits

I actually just wonder, does the ground ability ignore LOS?

[timid girder]

guys which should i play the ptb till its closed or the normal mode

[haughty hazel]

all his abilities ignore LOS

[agile sparrow]

I mean no Vecna needs to go to a pallet

[tender flame]

Oh my god I can't even stick to a loop then

[agile sparrow]

And he never needs to window vault

[haughty hazel]

just dodge the attacks its super fun

[last breach]

!!

[agile sparrow]

He also has an addon where his undergate breaks pallets

And an addon where coming out of the undergate blocks pallets iirc

[haughty hazel]

i really like how vecna breaks up the usual looping. you gotta play against him different.

[visual siren]

Do we think the voice lines are getting added in live, or no V,ls at all

[haughty hazel]

confirmed getting added in live

[visual siren]

Sweet thanks

[stuck depot]

vecna is balanced

[agile sparrow]

I wonder if they are adding voicelines to Nancy and Steve. They did just remodel Nancy

[stuck depot]

idk what u mean by voice lines but vecna says their name when he moris if ur referencing that

[agile sparrow]

They talk in game

[dusty coral]

like chucky

[cerulean sage]

When are we getting a Geo Mutation Vecna

[agile sparrow]

They have been making voicelines for every character they release lately

[tender flame]

Yeah but the ground ability makes looping harder

I need to break pathing I already learned and I hate thattt

[stuck depot]

ah i havent played survivoir so i didnt know

[agile sparrow]

Vecna also talks

[tender flame]

Survivors are supposed to have shared voice lines

[cerulean sage]

I like how vecna has a voice line for Steve

[tender flame]

I've noticed that new survivors in 2025 so far have gotten voiced

[agile sparrow]

Like he talks mid chase or walking around

[tender flame]

Like everyone will have voice lines, I hope the older characters get voice acting too

[void pasture]

Ngl his vine attack is pretty hard to hit

[agile sparrow]

Steve never had voicelines so if they added them it would be cool

[tender flame]

There's dialogue planned

But the steagull remains, I wonder how scene partner robin is

[void pasture]

I’ve found it’s better used as a zoning tool than getting injuries because good players will just side step or hold w and it is really unforgiving if you miss it

[agile sparrow]

Its not really, the only thing is timing. I kinda can manage Vecna now because im so used to Freddy rupture timings

[void pasture]

It kinda is lmfao

[agile sparrow]

Its mad easy

[void pasture]

not really

[tender flame]

Vecna feels like a huntress or Freddy

[void pasture]

It’s radius is fairly small and the slowdown while holding it makes it super unforgiving if you miss

[tender flame]

High skill ceiling killer

[agile sparrow]

Vecna is just Freddy with Nurse’s ability to avoid pallets and windows due to the power

[granite furnace]

Extrasensory + open handed is goated

[tender flame]

I wish eleven had a remote pallet perk

[ripe bison]

this perk is insane what the fuck

[granite furnace]

don't we all

[ripe bison]

This better not make it to live

[tender flame]

But it won't be made for pallet saves, just mindgames

[granite furnace]

it's still sight but better it's really crazy

[void pasture]

I really don’t see how it’s that bad

[worthy stone]

[void pasture]

It’s definitely good but I don’t think it’s op by any means

[granite furnace]

i mean it's not THAT op

[ripe bison]

Theyve completely reworked perks before live before

[void pasture]

It has a decent cooldown too

[ripe bison]

Background Player was reworked before live iirc

[pulsar canopy]

guys how do people play now the new chapter of stranger things i cant find it on the real game

[void pasture]

I mean maybe if they bumped the cooldown up to 60 seconds but the effect itself is fine imo

[stoic crypt]

we love the high skill ceiling killers

[ripe bison]

If you are on Steam you can opt into the public beta version of it in the betas tab in your steam library

[agile loom]

They really just powercrept the FUCK outta stillsight😭

[void pasture]

Lower range is something they could do too if they feel they need it

Instead of 44 maybe make it 33 or 22 meters and make the cooldown 60 seconds instead of 40

[snow tusk]

Can’t the new Vecna camp hooks effectively?

[pulsar canopy]

tysm

[snow tusk]

Like he pops the unhooker and the person on hook in one go

[ripe bison]

Right click the game in your steam library and there should be a betas tab

[void pasture]

Yes he’s pretty good at that

[ripe bison]

Wait I just realized

Urban builds are an actual thing now with these crouch perks.

[void pasture]

Is ur pfp Kinich from genshin?

[ripe bison]

I have to test this out.

[snow tusk]

True with eleven’s perk

[snow tusk]

Yes

[void pasture]

We see you + object of obsession = free aura on the killer for you and your team every so often

it takes a bit of time to build up the 4 stacks for we see you if the killer isn’t using any aura perks but it still works

[snow tusk]

Assuming it works that way. The killer might have to be the one who initiated the aura reveal

[void pasture]

It does work that way I’ve tested it

[snow tusk]

Ohhhhhh

Full aura chain possibly with Come and Get Me plus Object

[void pasture]

However using esp with those does NOT work for the stacks because you get elusive and oblivious so the killer can’t see your aura even with object

[snow tusk]

Four WSY and like Scene Partner/ Amber Keys

[void pasture]

oh yea scene partner could work as well I didn’t even think about that

[snow tusk]

Keys too

[granite furnace]

why am I so ass at playing surv

[snow tusk]

Watch it be possible for SWFs to chain aura timings to pop WSY one after another

Fully revealed the whole match

[daring marlin]

vecna second is so unbalanced is so killer sided

[tender flame]

Remove the teamwork perk and let eleven do remote pallet drops, call it psychic desperation

[stoic crypt]

people think vecna is op, ts sending me

[snow tusk]

Consider…… Insidous and holding power to camp hooks and exit gates

[snow tusk]

The “omg I can’t think of any counterplay rn cuz he’s so new so He must be broken”

[daring marlin]

i dont see any counter play to his spike things to be honest

[uneven frost]

just wait till lauries perks become public

[snow tusk]

Anyone test the vertical height limit for his power?

[snow tusk]

That’s cuz you’re not thinking hard enough

[misty meteor]

does anybody know does Dustin perk change of plans give you a new medkit if your toolbox is at 0%? Or it keeps the same percent as the toolbox

[daring marlin]

there is barely any time for reaction to his spike power, if you dont hold w

[open stratus]

it works at zero

[daring marlin]

what about new players?, a good moveset is meant to be both fun for survivors and killers

[snow tusk]

Reading the perk explains the perk
It converts to a full medkit of the same rarity and random addon of the same rarity

[slender flare]

is the ptb's servers crashing for anyone else?

[atomic pebble]

his power is so confusing? why do they get tokens sometimes and other times they get damaged?

[snow tusk]

New players don’t even realize Pig traps don’t arm til a gen is done. Don’t bring up a kit is only good if brainded people can bash their brains through it

[granite furnace]

playing against henry is honesty so fun

[misty meteor]

Bruh just don’t answer the question if you don’t want to English isn’t my first language you smart ass

[misty meteor]

Thank you

[open stratus]

yw other dude is salty

[snow tusk]

Vecna hits survivors two times, tokens only. Third injures and puts him into a special limited state where his power damages people

[rigid axle]

You can mind-game pallets and windows so easily with Vecna

Like Pryamid head levels of faking I love it

[atomic pebble]

okay so do i wait for that state to end to start adding tokens with hits again?

[snow tusk]

Aura read perk build is lore accurate for Mr. Henry

[snow tusk]

Yea. You can end his state faster if you interact with clocks around the map
Ya know deny his power

[raven flume]

how do i download it

[fluid fern]

so there's literally no counterplay to the new killer, yeah?

[lapis barn]

Dont get hit by his m2

[fluid fern]

you just have a guaranteed health state when he's underground

[drowsy trout]

has the ptb chrashed

[snow tusk]

Just don’t give his first two hits
Wait out his power or use the clocks to end it faster

[fluid fern]

and then if he runs aura its just nurse blink

[inland raptor]

new killer actually imposible to counter play

[fluid fern]

like you just have to hope they miss

[snow tusk]

Yall not even trying for counterplay

[fluid fern]

"wait out his power" is not counter play

[lapis barn]

New killer kinda ez ngl, dont get hit by the m2, delay his worldbreaker as much as possible. Throw pallets, dont go for stuns, break line of sight

[inland raptor]

then if you do dodge it into a deadzone

[ripe bison]

Im wondering how useful the window trap perk will be

[snow tusk]

The clocks on the map are meant for something

[analog silo]

ptb down right now?

[inland raptor]

he can just block of insane loops

[lapis barn]

Gen rush tf out of him

[fluid fern]

so we have yet another Artist

[ripe bison]

https://tenor.com/view/cat-steam-maintenance-tuesday-funny-gif-5125368307851606673

[inland raptor]

he so fast he can get to any gen

[fluid fern]

simply just play exhaustion and never interact because you cannot loop him

[lapis barn]

He is 4.4 m/s, he slow ngl

[analog silo]

the clocks dont really play a significant part in impeding his power, a good vecna will just snipe you with the quarter of the time thats left

[fluid fern]

yeah so its just SB Vigil

[worthy stone]

This gif is so cute I’ll make to post it every Tuesday from now on

[snow tusk]

What’s the height limit on his power? If you can just stand on a high elevation, he possibly can’t hurt you

[analog silo]

the mindbreaker in question

[ripe bison]

The presentation on this man is crazy good. They went all out on it.

[echo oracle]

So the ptb is unplayable

[fluid fern]

literally

[analog silo]

oh right i forgot about that lol

[lapis barn]

He cant aim down through the floors but can aim up

[snow tusk]

His upside down power reminds me of the gray old man SCP

[analog silo]

he can still hit you there

[analog silo]

the animation literally looks copy pasted lol

[echo oracle]

What does this mean

[snow tusk]

Yea but is it like nurse blink kinda power or

[shell orchid]

Has any Perks been Buffed/Nerfed in the PTB?

[ripe bison]

The new stuff with Vecna makes me hope they will rework Freddy's realm again to look cooler but they wont

[snow tusk]

Fr

[fluid fern]

its literally nurse blink

[analog silo]

steam maintenance

[echo oracle]

Aren't others playing?

[daring marlin]

You're correct, still tho, New players will stress quickly over dying to vecna a lot, and some may just stop playing, taking in mind probably tons of people will start playing dbd just because of stranger things

[fluid fern]

nurse blink, with basically Krasue headlong flight

[analog silo]

pretty sure its for everyone

[daring marlin]

they just gotta nerf some vecna abilities and thats pretty much it

[echo oracle]

Ah I see

[ripe bison]

It means easy anticheat is doing a fuckup. Steam is down atm regardless cause its tuesday maintenance

[snow tusk]

Then power could be bugged like nurse with shooting it on different floor by accident like nurse

[analog silo]

if they gut his range i will be very upset cus thats the most fun part

[ripe bison]

Its a PTB they usually need to do that

[fluid fern]

why even play the match

[daring marlin]

the killer itself is really nice, cool and more, but it REALLY needs some huge nerfs to his spike, and that range is so ABSURD (for survivors)

[snow tusk]

True

[fluid fern]

anyone not playing the killer is just wasting other people's time

[analog silo]

ok so from what i understand, you cant use the power to hit a floor below UNLESS you have a line of sight on the bottom floor, however the opposite does not apply cus you can aim up at the ceiling and it will hit the upstairs bit

[lapis barn]

Some good new perks, surv and killer

[icy summit]

Does anyone else feel like his proportions are really off? Like his head should be smaller or his body bigger?

[lapis barn]

yea

[fluid fern]

I mean Id love to try the new perks

[ripe bison]

Whenever I play as Hag to test out perk changes on her people DC instantly in PTBs

[analog silo]

i think the range is fair cus he is stupidly slow, but the cooldown does need tweaking cus its just spammable

[snow tusk]

Oh it’s weird. You need LoS downwards but not up

[fluid fern]

but we have a pseudo-nurse as the killer

[formal nexus]

is vecna going to be balanced a bit better as the ptb goes on?
I dont know much about the ptbs and im just wondering if killers get adjusted during them
(I currently think vecna isnt fun to go against, way too powerful on indoor maps or indoor/cluttered spaces, seeming completely uncounterable on maps such as midwich)

[molten hinge]

his proportions are definitely off, he’s too regular shaped when his shoulders should be more broad and his lower half thinner

[icy summit]

Exactlyyyy!

[fluid fern]

Yeah I just went against him on Midwich

[formal nexus]

agreed

[snow tusk]

Btw any other perk/kit changes to other killers and survivors

[fluid fern]

there is literally nothing you can do

[formal nexus]

same, was hell, got tunneled out the game immediately and theres 0 counterplay)

[snow tusk]

I would not be surprised if the power is bugged on stairs or something and you can crouch tech it

[fluid fern]

like he can just phase through vaults

[ripe bison]

They dont update the PTB, or have never done so before. The characters and changes just stay that way throughout its duration and we won't see how they respond to feedback until the dev stream before the chapter release

[fluid fern]

you cannot get away from his floor snot

and if the guy can aim, its just death

[ripe bison]

Oh god I never thought about how hed work on multi level indoor maps

[snow tusk]

Wait the downwards LoS needed to use his power to target below matters a lot cuz basement

[stoic oasis]

Use SB, KnightLight nearly split his desk in half from people using SB against his Vecna

[formal nexus]

thanks, hopefully they make some changes, such as possibly seperating the main ability into one large circle and a couple smaller ones around them to make it more engaging and hopefully somewhat make him playable against on maps like midwich

[fluid fern]

Yeah so its just SB Vigil

[snow tusk]

He can’t camp basement guys from shack entrance yaaaayyy……
He’ll just camp from stairs

[fluid fern]

no other exhaustion saves you from his chase

[daring marlin]

its not fair, vecna is really fun to play as KILLER, meanwhile palying as a survivor its not, Im not saying its impossible to avoid his spike things, But because of his range its stupidly easy to get a hit like 85% of the time, these things can only be avoidable if the killer places them wrong or times it wrong, Besides, if Vecna places the spike under the survivor, the survivor 100% will take the hit, there is almost no time to react and yeah.... its really spammable, even on hooks and worse, the exit gates

[stoic oasis]

It’s so strong he wants SB banned against Vecna in tournaments

[ripe bison]

There are ALWAYS changes before live.

[formal nexus]

yeah literally 0 counters, maybe if it was multiple aoes? therefore its still dodgable?

[icy summit]

Y'all know what's REALLY ANNOYING?!? You cant rotate Vecna in the lobby OR THE SHOP

[snow tusk]

Maybe DH

[formal nexus]

whats the most significant change we have gotten on any killer so far? (just out of curiosity)

[stoic oasis]

Like I said, SB. You can have the reaction time of a snail and it counters it 100% of the time

[formal nexus]

whats SB?

oh backwards?

[snow tusk]

Why you wanna rotate him hmmmmm? 🤨 you wanna see some Henry cheeks?

[glad night]

Is vecna over powered?

[stoic oasis]

Sprint burst. Or if you have any reaction time at all, you can outrun it normally

[formal nexus]

ohhh sprint burst

[icy summit]

Yes

[stoic oasis]

No, he’s low A tier

[snow tusk]

Lmao honest

[formal nexus]

yeah but on maps like midwich theres nothing you can do like at all

[prisma anchor]

Still couldn't play the ptb, where woul you say is vecna on a tierlist?

[icy summit]

I wanna see his cool back that he has BUT NOOOOO

[formal nexus]

unless they change it to have spots in the power which are safe or smth

[stoic oasis]

Not true at all lol

[ripe bison]

Dont remember

[subtle zephyr]

Just equip Face The Darkness on Vecna and ur good

[formal nexus]

dude if he places it in front of u you HAVE to run into him or u die, and its just crazy distance lost

[snow tusk]

What does that do?

[glad night]

nice idk why everyone calls him op but ill find out i guess

[subtle zephyr]

If u injure a survivor by any means a dull totem lights up

all survivors will just randomly scream and show their location sometimes

[stoic oasis]

The hitbox on it is dogshit. He’s 4.4 m/s. all you need to do is dodge to the side lol. He’s slow as shit while using his power and has a second buffer after using it where he is slow

[stark summit]

Every killer that comes out is op because people have to learn how to counter, plus they go into ptb really strong and come out with a bunch of changes on live

[stoic oasis]

Distance against him is really easy to gain

[formal nexus]

oh hes 4.4? fair enough, that seems fair, but on midwich there is no space in the halls to dodge to

[subtle zephyr]

However you have to injure them as much as possible to get it to work

[glad night]

Thats a good point

Are ptb que times long?

[formal nexus]

im a fast learner lol

[stoic oasis]

Double back then. If it’s directly on you, you can just W key and run through it. If it’s in front of you, double back. Even after you double back, you lose no distance since he’s so fucking slow

[formal nexus]

really?

[stark summit]

My fiancé hasn't been able to get into any yet, because the game keeps crashing every time he finds a lobby

[stoic oasis]

Yes really

[icy summit]

I may just be stupid but did myers hospital gown always have the tubes on the arm?

[formal nexus]

alr nice (I was under the impression he was a 4.6m/s)

[stark summit]

Me too, lol, except against Krasue and Ghoul, those two I really struggle with lmao

[snow tusk]

And you expect to snipe with that alone? Also aiming below is scuffed for maps like Midwich

[formal nexus]

hes still much stronger on midwich than any other map tho, with there only being 2 ways to dodge

[icy summit]

To be fair lots of killers are really strong on Midwich

[stoic oasis]

Midwich is great for killers like Vecna and Nurse, yes. But he definitely has shitty maps as well

[stark summit]

There's lots of killers that do really well on Midwich. Scratched Mirror Myers, Doctor, Nurse, and so on

[formal nexus]

what maps would u say suck? he can hit through walls

[subtle zephyr]

It means you can just use anyway of hitting a survivor and get value, seeing as Vecna can hurt survivors in many ways it's a good perk on him..never said to rely on it alone

[lapis barn]

Lerys seems like a struggle for him

[snow tusk]

Nurse can blink downwards Vecna cannot aim below

[snow tusk]

What’s his range?

[stoic oasis]

Any really large maps. His mobility is great when in the Upside Down, otherwise it’s ass. His power gets punished heavily in large maps

[formal nexus]

fair enough

[glad night]

Sounds like a pain - Mines still downloading lol

[icy summit]

How do you actually give feedback on the PTB to the devs?

[stoic oasis]

He’s good on Widmich due to how tiny it is and how the hallways are compact not ‘cause he can presumably hit through the floor

[subtle zephyr]

About the same range as a fully charged Nurse blink

[formal nexus]

high mobility but slow speed makes sense, I think blight and (maybe) ghoul should be the same (or just nerf how fast he can cancel the gosh diddly darn leap)

vecna has extremely high skill potential though, correct?

[stark summit]

Yeah, we're trying to figure out why. Hes been looking forward to this ptb. Were also very confused about all the changes to 2v8, which seem a little unnecessary in my opinion

[stoic oasis]

If they remove his fucking bite through walls and pallets, I wouldn’t mind him. And yes, Vecna definitely has a high skill ceiling

[formal nexus]

nemi having 4 zombies should be for normal mode if u ask me

[stoic oasis]

That’s only for 2v8

[glad night]

To be completely honest I thought ptb was a livestream and thats very embarrassing 😭 and i thought the 2v8 wasnt for another day?

[formal nexus]

fucking hate ghoul, thought he was weak when I first started using him, then immediately dropped him once realising how fast u can cancel a leap and how bs it was

[stark summit]

I agree, I run Nemi on occasion and the Zombies he has normally seem really fucking useless

[subtle zephyr]

unpopular opinion his Zombies are useful because they keep survivors off gens a bit and put pressure throughout the map

[stark summit]

2v8 ptb comes out on the 8th, I was just meaning the changes they made according to the Dev notes. I personally thought the last 2v8 was perfect as it was, and didn't think it needed many if any changes

[stoic oasis]

Really good Ghouls like KnightLight and Xeno can curve around the entirety of shack in seconds, it’s insane

[subtle zephyr]

Wait 2v8

[formal nexus]

they are alright, decent aura reading and u can fire them (whip em) if they piss you off, great stress relief

[stark summit]

Dude. It would be awesome if my Zombies did that, mine wandered aimlessly, occasionally find a survivor and then seem to get distracted by a damn butterfly lmao

[snow tusk]

He needs LoS for aiming below, not the case for aiming up

[ripe bison]

Its funny how the vault trap does nothing against the new killer in the same chapter

[glad night]

Ohhh okay okay, I see what you mean but I do think that changes did definitely need to be made (imo of course) idk what they did do but I think that they were kind of needed as it felt very unpleasant

[stoic oasis]

Nobody ever said he can hit through floors LOL

[formal nexus]

I personally think he deserves 4-5 on normal mode, therefore survivors have to actually actively corral the zombies with failed skill checks or loud noise notis of some sort, yk so they actually have an affect on gameplay

[worn bluff]

what's a good vecna build if anyone has figured it out yet?

[stoic oasis]

Eruption, Pop, Corrupt, Pain Res

[snow tusk]

Nah it’s just me complaining it’s weird

[worn bluff]

💀🙏💔😭

[echo oracle]

I have to reinstall THE WHOLE FUCKING GAME BECAUSE THE PTB SUCKS

[subtle zephyr]

It kinda differs I've seen survivors stupid enough to get hit by them 3 times in the same match

[stark summit]

Im mostly nervous about the Torchbearer ability tbh, doesn't sound horrible but in theory, if 4 survivors are running it and all get flashbangs, it can be annoying asf

[formal nexus]

scourge hook builds are what I normally run, jagged compass helps a lot (unhooks from any hook trigger all unhook based scourge hook effects)

[glad night]

That sounds miserable

[stoic oasis]

It takes like five minutes to switch between lol

[echo oracle]

Its gonna take over an hour

[void pasture]

Made a Henry dc even tho he had a goated 3 gen lmfaooooo

[formal nexus]

unlucky

[void pasture]

It was on ormond lake mine and it was one gen in shack, one at the large snow tube, and one at a tile in between the two

[spring verge]

Im not seeing a PTB option on steam for the beta participation

[stark summit]

I hope it won't be as bad, and that it'll take timing. Because, I really hope that its not going to be constant worrying about flashbangs lmao.

[stoic oasis]

It’s 4 GB to switch between. Do you play on a Samsung refrigerator?

[glad night]

Guess we'll see tomorrow? Or Friday I dont remember

[blazing venture]

survivors can break my kneecaps if it means killer queues are faster

[formal nexus]

average nemi match is like having 4 killers vs 1 poor, gigantic survivor smh

[echo oracle]

I live in the middle of nowhere

Its gonna take about 30 min to get to base game and then 20 to get back into the ptb

[stark summit]

I really didn't encounter long Queues last time, but I mostly played later at night and used the Play While You Wait, my average wait time was probably about 15-20 minutes, and coukd get probably 3 rounds of survivor in

[stoic oasis]

I’m shocked you were even able to install the full game (20+ GB) if 4 GB takes an hour

[still wyvern]

It could be because of the verify files thing, doesnt mean his internet is bad

[echo oracle]

@stoic oasis

[stoic oasis]

That’s the faster part of the process lol

[still wyvern]

No lol, it depends if its on HDD or SSD

[fast bane]

took me 5 minutes to download but killer queues are like 10 minutes so no need to rush lol

[echo oracle]

I just wanna try the ptb

[stoic oasis]

For me at least, it’s around 10x quicker than my internet LOL

[echo oracle]

But no everytime I tried to do something I GET ERROR CODED

[still wyvern]

Thats because you have it on an SSD

its really fast compared to HDD

[void pasture]

Like one gen at shack, and then these two right next to each other and shack is like off to the left

[manic shale]

wait really?? what happened 😭

[void pasture]

and bro somehow lost the 3 gen and then dc’d 😂

[jagged fable]

can you even be other killers in ptb

[echo oracle]

Everytime I tried to do anything I would get error coded

[stoic oasis]

That’s my point. I never said his internet is shit, I said the device he’s using is shit

[void pasture]

Yes

[jagged fable]

whys it taking sooooooooooooooo long to load, i js wanna play as blight

[manic shale]

wait thats actualyl so scary because im switching back to the normal game since i lowkey dont like the ptb but im scared that might happen

[brittle mantle]

How we feeling about Vecna?

[void pasture]

If you mean queue times it’s cuz everyone’s trying to play Creel so killer queues are fairly full

[echo oracle]

Dw it wont, it only happened in the ptb

[jagged fable]

ahh fair enough, jeez i didnt know it would be this bad, been waiting at least 20 mins

[stark summit]

Well, My Fiance is playing him now, and it seems that hes definitely a killer you gotta practice with and learn about

[stoic oasis]

He’s fun but people are impatient and call him OP ‘cause they don’t know how to counter him

[echo oracle]

Cause the devs for this game SUCK

[manic shale]

as a survivor main i fear hes very unpredictable and strong, like i was talking about it a bit in #game-discussion and i went in blind and he was a bit overpowered when he was able to place his traps ont he other side of the pallet

[void pasture]

Legit the main counter is just hold w and swerve side to side lol

[jagged fable]

honestly its kinda easy, you js need to predict where he uses his ability

and from there on its easy and especially when ur approaching a pallet or a vault

[manic shale]

this might be me because im still having a hard time with figuring it out, i think its cool but just confusing especially with the timer thing

i think with vecna its one of the killers that might be more better to fake with

[void pasture]

he’s slowed down by holding his power and the radius on the attack is fairly small and he can’t change it halfway through placing it so if you have enough distance you can just hold w but if not then you just gotta move unpredictably. He loses distance holding it anyways so you’re fairly safe to move out of line when he’s using it.

[jagged fable]

ikr its honestly easy if u know what ur doing, its common sense really

[stoic oasis]

The average DBD player isn’t intelligent enough to figure out his counter. They just panic and complain

[brittle mantle]

My thoughts are that his rmb AOE Vine attack has way too forgiving a cooldown and should have like half a second-one second extra

But his underrate attack I can almost never seem to land it’s VERY easy to avoid from my experience

[umbral adder]

yalls favorite builds to run on vecna?

[stark summit]

Just gotta practice and learn counters. I mean, he still seems easier to counter from what Ive seen than Krasue or Ghoul. My fiancé keeps saying hes really slow and its hard to keep up with Survivors

[void pasture]

I feel the opposite way tbh. I feel like his vine attack is fairly underpowered and I get more value from his underground attack.

[jagged fable]

ill admit it is hard to loop properly and pallets are death wishes but he is farely slow

[stoic oasis]

As long as your reaction time is better than a deer in headlights, you’re fine

[brittle mantle]

Maybe I gotta practice more. But I def feel like I’m able to use the vine attack way more than I should

[tender flame]

When vecna misses abilities does he lose bloodlust?

[fickle crane]

He struggles a bit if the survivor gets a head start, kinda made up for by really strong anti-loop at close range

[brittle mantle]

Though guess that’s counteracted by how it doesn’t deal damage till worldbreak

[fickle crane]

I believe so much as charging the power will remove bloodlust

[jagged fable]

i think its balanced to some degree, also listening is really important. as long as you can hear him about to use his vine ability and js dodge it

[void pasture]

But also for how unforgiving it is to miss the attack, I think having a fairly short cooldown is fairly balanced

[manic shale]

this was where i was having problems with; i usually pre run so i dont have problems with avoiding him but in direct chase its a bit hard to loop especially with that kind of power

[tender flame]

Oh wow

[ruby raptor]

I think his vine cooldown could be a little bit longer as it can be easily spammed but other than that he seems somewhat balanced

[fickle crane]

Most killer powers work that way. Using your power usually cancels bloodlust

[void pasture]

In direct chase you kinda just have to assume he’s gonna go for cut off attacks at windows and pallets and sort of fake it to make him use the power

[jagged fable]

yeah when you have distance its easy but close up hes hard to predict and get farther but when he misses a vine you can easily gain distance

faking is worth it but again theres no cooldown practivcally

[full yoke]

Y'all is ptb on console or na?

[jagged fable]

finally imin a game

[onyx gale]

So how strong you guys think Vecna is?

[ruby raptor]

It’s steam only

[stark summit]

In theory, with his slowness, if you keep changing loop locations, would it be easier to get out of chase? I think if you avoid pallets and tight loops, youd be okay, especially if you can predict his pathing and where he'll attack from

[fluid fern]

uncounterable

[full yoke]

😭

[manic shale]

yeah i think thats for the best; it was only my first time so i might get better

[fluid fern]

there is no chase, you just hold w until he doesnt miss

[jagged fable]

it was pretty laggy ngl

[manic shale]

i tried that but i dont think i did much of a good job

[void pasture]

I don’t really think it needs any more cooldown tbh

[manic shale]

i might play around with that

[fluid fern]

the projectile he uses needs 2-3 times the cooldown

[ruby raptor]

Yeah but it’s easily spammed

[manic shale]

im about to enter my second round so i might try harder and be more careful

[snow tusk]

Do you think basement Vecna will be busted?

[fickle crane]

I've heard people saying the successful hit should have a slightly longer cooldown than a miss which I don't necessarily think is disagreeable

[void pasture]

For how hard it is to hit and how unforgiving it is to miss, I don’t think it needs any longer cooldown at base

[manic shale]

also if i may ask, what's up with the clocks? how do they work?

[ruby raptor]

He’s actually fairly easy to hit if you know survivor pathing

[stoic oasis]

It’s PC only. NA has nothing to do with it LOL

[void pasture]

I think they meant ‘nah’

[onyx gale]

But can survivor see where he is aiming at or do they have to predict?

[void pasture]

Predict, they can’t see it like you can with ghouls marker. But tbf it’s not hard to guess where he’s probably gonna use it.

[full yoke]

I meant is it console or nah?? 😭😭😭

[stark summit]

I think it all depends on the player's experience and how they play, when I play survivor, I generally can keep most killers distracted as long as they have a little bit of tunnel vision on me, and as Killer, I generally avoid chase as much as possible since I run mostly stealth killers. I dont think Vecna will be one of the ones I play

[tropic rivet]

Does Turn Back the Clock trigger eruption?

[void pasture]

Most times they’ll throw it in front of you in hopes you run into it, or they’ll use it at windows and pallets to try and get you while you’re anim locked

[ruby raptor]

Without auras it’s purely predicting so sorta like Dracula and pyramid head

[stoic oasis]

Ohhh LOLL

[void pasture]

at least that’s what the ones I’ve faced have done. Also be cautious when leaving a tile when worldbreaker mode is active because the range on his attack is fairly decent so he might get you as you’re leaving

[stark summit]

I HATE going against Pyramid Head, hate it sm, he makes me mad lmao, because I just cannot get away or predict his ability

[fast bane]

i like how using undergate makes me undetectable because i will down someone and then silently just sit there as the black goop out of LOS on a wall etc and just explode when they try reviving and down them. just did that to 3 survivors at once and downed the 4th for the 4k

[void pasture]

ngl that’s lowkey super scummy 😭

[stoic oasis]

I want the lobotomites you play against LOL

[fast bane]

blame the devs lol

[ruby raptor]

Vecna is one of those killers which require gamesense and experience in the game which is something I kinda like

[dusty edge]

@stoic oasis 🚫➡️ Your message content contains flagged text

[stark summit]

Do you think he could be made into a decent stealth killer?

[void pasture]

imagine they add like a dredge killer instinct type thing where if you sit in one general area as the goo for too long it gives killer instinct just to counter that lmfao. I doubt they would but it would be funny

[ruby raptor]

He’s really loud so probably not

[snow tusk]

Me venom ulting a head on survivor when they slow exit a locker

[fast bane]

he already is a stealth killer with undergate and undetectable, plus the perk to give me undetectable after dmging a gen

[stark summit]

Damn.. 😕 I run a stealth Nemi for fun, so I thought I might be able to do the same thing with him

[void pasture]

His undergate has a fairly long cooldown tho so if you’re planning to make a build that relies on that.. uh probably not gonna work that well

[snow tusk]

Nurse players being undetectable after grim embrace procc

[fast bane]

cool your jets @stoic oasis it's just a game

[solid compass]

Nah the black blotch needs to be like spirit's phrase or Dracula's bat to be real

[stoic oasis]

All I said was the survivors are dumb as a rock lol

[void pasture]

Using a slur

[fast bane]

i didn't see what you said, it was flagged so idk xD

[ruby raptor]

Not to mention the undergate is quite weak, you’d probably get hits in corners or newer survivors but definitely not experienced unless you can predict and bait really well

[stoic oasis]

Oh no, I exchanged dumb with the universally normalized word r****d. That’e terrible!

[fast bane]

if you can LOS on the other side of a wall etc, it feels really really good getting a down from that

[daring vessel]

Anyone else feel like the new killer should be 112.5% instead of 110%? I remember hearing someone say way back that some killers should be 112.5% rather than 115% or 110%.

[void pasture]

Still a slur

[ripe bison]

Vecna's ranged attack is crazy

its like a freddy snare on crack

[stoic oasis]

How do you survive in life being such a crybaby snowflake?

[steep star]

Did vecna have any skins?

[void pasture]

Well I don’t use slurs for starters…

[daring vessel]

It is crazy but pretty hard to use if the survivor is just holding W and dodging perfectly since you're 110% and slow yourself down quite a lot.

[stark summit]

Let's not do this here, @stoic oasis and @void pasture . Not the place for it

[worthy stone]

[fast bane]

i took the aoe spread add-on and it feels pretty solid, clipping through terrain. i also min-maxed it with the blights pallet block when they get injured so it's pretty fun. 10/10 would suggest. 2nd 4k in a row

[raw lotus]

If you mean re****ed, it's also a medical term funnily enough so it shouldn't be censored lol

[void pasture]

Yea no don’t try and turn this around as me doing anything this is all them

[stoic oasis]

Aww, cry some more ‘cause I used a word ten people in the world think are a slur

[snow tusk]

Omw to camp basement with Undergate

[ripe bison]

Its very difficult to dodge. Theyre gonna have to nerf it some how

[fast bane]

yall should go somewhere else, yall aint even talking about the PTR anymore xD

[daring vessel]

What is the AOE spread add-on? The brown one?

[stoic oasis]

I work in the medical field LOL. We use that term as a base for other medical terms all the time

[fast bane]

yeah, the 2 meter max one!

[ripe bison]

The AOE is gonna have to be a bit smaller. Or they need to nerf the addon

[void pasture]

Majority of people using it are not using it in the medical way

[manic shale]

that is a horror story in itself what

[daring vessel]

Is it really that good? I mean it's not useful in Worldbreaker mode.

[fast bane]

not in WBer mode but you need to get vine attacks to attack WBer mode faster

so that extra cleave radius is huge

[fluid fern]

yeah my people put on SB Vigil and its night and day. Vecna just killed every other exhaustion perk

its goes from everyone dropping like flies to liek 2 hook states

what an awful design

[daring vessel]

I wish it affected WBer mode even if it the add-on was just half in WBer.

[slim scaffold]

They need do Dustin lower size.

[raw lotus]

This comes down to the 'would you rather jail an innocent or free a guilty' debate tbh

[void pasture]

and people will still say he’s op

[void pasture]

???

[fast bane]

i don't think any of them are OP. most are just knowledge checks of how they work and then countering it with skill

[stoic oasis]

Don’t even argue with him, he gets triggered ‘cause that word describes him perfectly

[void pasture]

whatever you say bud

[stoic oasis]

<3

[void pasture]

May you suffer eternally <3

[stoic oasis]

<3

Fucking dumbass

[void pasture]

yea you are

[fast bane]

yall are wild. take it to DMs

[stoic oasis]

You’re still crying LOL

[void pasture]

and you’re still being an annoying waste of oxygen

[raw lotus]

Do they ever tho? The publicity of it all is what drives it

[limber ridge]

is the ring around the survivor portaits the amount of tokens they have? cause that seems kinda strong to only need to attack the same guy with tokens 4 times to be able to set up a mori after hes on deathook

[fast bane]

i'm pretty sure, yeah!

[stark summit]

What does everyone think of Dustin's Bada Bada Boom perk

[stark summit]

I think thats what its called

[slim scaffold]

PoV: Vecna's hooking Eleven is scene reaction from S4EP9

[tepid jasper]

Legion players r gonna have a hard time :D

[raw lotus]

I haven't tried it yet, but the combo is obvious

[limber ridge]

will be very good with partied players

[snow tusk]

Mindbreaker and blood echoes moments no?

[fast bane]

as a survivor, i'm enjoying elevens perk to spot hex totems. that feels really nice

[snow tusk]

Oh the crouching one. Yea inner strength gamers rise up

[stark summit]

I feel like 50% hindered is too much, personally, but idk, maybe its not. Ive not seen it in action, but it just sounds like too much. Just my opinion though

[raw lotus]

Chem trap exists

[limber ridge]

forget inner strength, look at urban evasion

[stark summit]

Is chem trap 50%? I dont use it

[fast bane]

yeah, mix that with meg thomas 100% crouch haste with lithe or something and that also feels pretty good

[iron flicker]

-0

[raw lotus]

Yep

[stark summit]

Gotcha, if it works the same way, ig it wouldn't be too bad

Just sounds like a lot when youre not seeing it

[raw lotus]

It's the exact same perk except on windows

[void pasture]

Is there an add on that increases his range with hsi m2 cuz I swear this mfer is hitting me from 5 miles away

Cuz if that’s just base range then that’s the only thing I think is somewhat overtuned

[limber ridge]

is extrasensory perception able to see the hatch as well? or no?

[stoic oasis]

I’m not sure if there is an official answer to that yet, it’s something you’ll have to test out on your own. I however would presume not as it would nullify perks like Clairvoyance

[rugged lion]

nice profile pic. love loona.

[ripe bison]

secret project is amazing

[limber ridge]

ok

[ripe bison]

I really hope they dont nerf it its so much fun

[limber ridge]

thanks

[ripe bison]

?

[limber ridge]

wrong thing chat moved to fast

[ripe bison]

o

[limber ridge]

oh i also discovered " we see you" works with object of obsession, so we see yous abilities can pop off passively every 90 seconds because OOO counts as the killer revealing your aura

[raw lotus]

Actually tested/saw in action?

[limber ridge]

yes

[raw lotus]

Oh shit, that's awesome

[fluid fern]

yes and yes

[umbral adder]

what yall running on vecna? i need some builds

[molten hinge]

i just took an actual look at nancy in the ptb im so scared why does she look like a random fortnite character

[raw lotus]

Btw you don't give stacks while the power injures. So it's not as fast as you think

[void pasture]

Bruh I’m tired of teammates dc’ng don’t fucking queue up if ur gonna rage quit over the smallest thing

[limber ridge]

not sure if itll stay that way but yeah for now OOO will give tokens for 'we see you"

[void pasture]

I don’t see any need to change it tbh

[molten hinge]

that is NOT Natalia dyer

[daring vessel]

Lethal, Pain Res, Turn Back the Clock, and Hivemind with range add-on and skates. I also tried a build using all three of his perks and adding in Hex: Retribution as the 4th one.

[raw lotus]

Hopefully it does, otherwise the perk is ass

[void pasture]

it’s a fairly slow acquisition of tokens with ooo so there’s no need to remove compatibility imo

[stoic oasis]

It’s ‘cause they see you and get the fuck out as fast as possible LOL

[worn bluff]

Anyone know what the best vecna build is rn?

[ripe bison]

I just realized that all of First's perks actually synergize with eachother. I dont think weve gotten a killer with perks that synergize like this in years

[void pasture]

Dude quit being such an annoying cunt

[limber ridge]

i disagree, if someones running all aura reveals, that ability can expose the killer pretty quickly, its like distortion but instead of hiding your aura it exposes the killers location

[stoic oasis]

My point is proven

[ripe bison]

Shes suppose to look closer to the actual actress now

[molten hinge]

it looks nothing like her, it looked way more like Natalia before

[ripe bison]

Ive heard a rumor that theyre changing their voices

Steve and Nancy

[snow tusk]

Why would they?

[molten hinge]

changing the voices is probably a good idea but im BEGGING them to reconsider changing her model

[snow tusk]

Add an Amber to control your WSY tokens and when to pop

[stoic oasis]

It’s a little chode LOL

[void pasture]

dude seriously shut the fuck up or go choke on something idc which

[limber ridge]

but the abilities cant injure players out of power mode, meaning you could walk up to an afk player, hit them 4 times with the whip and then you can mori him if hes deathook

[snow tusk]

Nancy model already been changed, it’s nicer now

[ripe bison]

Steve's voice is notoriously bad. Its part of why Stegull is so damn funny, cause of how comically inaccurate it is. Also they have an excuse to get the actual actors on board for the voices. Theyve done it before with Pinhead, where his voice was changed after they managed to get the original actor on board later on.

[worn bluff]

SUCK MY FAT ONE 🔥

[void pasture]

You’re just being an annoying and disrespectful cunt atp and it’s just cuz you can’t get over the fact I critiqued you for using a slur

[snow tusk]

Wrong message
I replied to your nerf secret project

[ripe bison]

o

[molten hinge]

it looks absolutely nothing like nancy and it looks like a fortnite model now

[limber ridge]

amber from what

[void pasture]

talking bout ME being a snowflake yet you go and bring up an argument that was already long over 💀

[stark summit]

I love Stevegulls they're hilarious

[ripe bison]

Idk they have a tendancy to do weird changed sometimes

[snow tusk]

Amber key

[stoic oasis]

Keep crying LOL

[ripe bison]

Deagles are really funny rn

[void pasture]

Keep being a pathetic excuse of a human who provides absolutely nothing of value to the world

[limber ridge]

oh shoot your right

[hollow island]

what is actually going on?

[stoic oasis]

Good boy

[snow tusk]

Control when to pop WSY and have scene partner too

[void pasture]

find the nearest volcano and jump into it <3

[hollow island]

yall need to kiss atp

[limber ridge]

whats scene partner do to compliment 000, we see you and the key?

[void pasture]

I’d never kiss an ugly bitch who uses slurs

[snow tusk]

Same thing as OOO, reveal your aura and scream

[stoic oasis]

Good boy following my orders

[limber ridge]

it dosent reveal your aura to the killer, its like rolling a 1 on bardic or getting the scream on dramaturgy

[raw lotus]

When you hit twice, you immediately enter worldbreaker. It's not a toggle

[void pasture]

I’ll be celebrating when your time comes

[limber ridge]

oh gotcha

[hollow island]

oh wow

[stoic oasis]

Good boy

[snow tusk]

Ah wrong screaming perk
Come and Get me

[limber ridge]

that does yeah

[void pasture]

Hope you have a terrible life and suffer an agonizing and painful fate <3

[snow tusk]

[stoic oasis]

Good boy

[limber ridge]

this is giving me ideas

[snow tusk]

Slimey and James make out in another channel please

[stark summit]

Ive been wanting to get Scene Partner, but I just dont know if Ill get any benefit from it

[void pasture]

I’ve blocked his pathetic ass

hope he has a terrible year cuz he doesn’t deserve nothing good

[snow tusk]

Built to last for keys????