ptb-discussion

[steady orbit]

1 billion to bhvr

[remote spruce]

so are we just supposed to est the changes without even having any of our perks now lol

[wheat niche]

Only a little

[modest tree]

Ill try and find it

[gaunt laurel]

You get prestige 3 when you click on bloodweb button

[cyan imp]

I also forgot I gave the bot shoulder the burden, lol

[bronze perch]

they added some new ones/altered them too

[remote spruce]

ah i see

[strong viper]

made on spaghetti code as well

[elfin cliff]

Yea I wasn’t really tunnelling and someone on death hook literally ran in my face, had to down him and leave him there so I don’t get punished

[mossy spruce]

3 survivors getting a 25% buff is insane

[weary jackal]

Extremely dead. Punished for condemning before 6 hooks means she is very dead.

[cyan imp]

to make it more visible from further away to check progress as killer

and it looks cool

[muted panther]

They’re definitely going to have to change it or else it will kill the game for both killers and surv

[gaunt laurel]

Hmm yes I figured. Neat

[dark patrol]

change some maps bro it will be literally impossible to win with killer in maps like school

[umbral delta]

Yeah they made trees shorter on some loops and you can see over them because there stumps

[strong viper]

garden of joy

[elfin cliff]

I feel like the punishment for killing someone under 6 hooks shouldn’t exist

[gaunt laurel]

Most survivor sided map tho

[bronze perch]

they gave the alien map the loops from macmillan and yamoka

[gaunt laurel]

Good. That map was so bad

[modest tree]

Just saw what you meant by spookyloopz getting punished

[umbral delta]

I haven't seen but sounds good

[weary jackal]

did he post a vid

[cyan imp]

Ok, I don't know if I'm bugged then, but I don't get the punishment after the survivor dies on 6th

[muted panther]

Its almost impossible to avoid it unless you intentionally only 2 hook 3 survivors AND they arent slamming gens, its VERY uncommon

[gaunt laurel]

What did they do to forgotten ruins?

[maiden heath]

is the ptb and normal game be separate from when if i have unbought auric cells it wont waste what i have in my normal data

[umbral delta]

They didn't change borgo much they added windows on the outskirts

[bronze perch]

not saying it's bad. Just wondering why that change wasn't talked about much 😭 Lost in the massive patch this is

[junior topaz]

I like how everyone dc's immediately if you're not using the new shitty killer

[modest tree]

Its like we are supposed to memorize who we last hooked and if we see them even 5 mins later supposed to ignore them that seriously is stupid

Yeah its up on his yt

[umbral delta]

You'll see it on hud

[muted panther]

God forbid they all have the same skins

[junior topaz]

some ppl wanna be in the ptb to check how the mechanics work not to try the new killer

[elfin cliff]

There’s something that tells you who you last hooked on the hud

[dark patrol]

like bro, with these changes there's no point in playing if it's school map or resident evil map as a killer lmao

[gaunt laurel]

There are some new tiles too. Weird long 90 degree turn into a tiny wall with a window on macmillan

[frigid briar]

War Is Hell is the best Dredge skin imo, it just looks so sick and I love it

[lyric bobcat]

I'VE BEEN SAYING THIS EVERY TIME

I KNEW THAT DOOR HAD A LOCK ON IT

[cyan imp]

not memorized. The interface shows you the hook states, and last hooked. also if anyone shoulders, and your hooks are gold for the boost, or red without

[dark patrol]

school map is way too big

[strong viper]

it shows hook states and who you last hooked on the hud

[modest tree]

Yeah that's what im worried about running into a swf stevghul team same outfit same charms

[umbral delta]

Everyone keeps forgetting this

[ocean spear]

It's in the notes listed as pallet redistribution or something, trying to make it where the pallets are more evenly spread throughout the map.

[abstract tendon]

Ok so I saw someone type here that gen regression perks are just straight useless. Is that true?

[bronze perch]

Yeah macmillan was one of the ones they changed,
it says "Updated various Realms to adjust the quantity and distribution of pallets, reducing the presence of "dead zones".
Affected Realms: The MacMillan Estate, Autohaven Wreckers, Coldwind Farm, Crotus Prenn Asylum, Haddonfield, Backwater Swamp, Red Forest, Yamaoka Estate, Ormond, The Decimated Borgo" in the patch notes

[gaunt laurel]

RPD is not that survivor sided tho

[muted panther]

BHVR did not think any of this through

[cyan imp]

this is not true. It's just a gross exaggeration

[gaunt laurel]

Odd new tile tho. But interesting

[dark patrol]

yh in the regular game it isn't but with these new changes it's worse than ever now, only losing to school map in terms of being survivor sided

[abstract tendon]

Ohhh kk

[foggy verge]

how to counter the new killer

[modest tree]

Zigzag

[muted panther]

They should've made it where the anti-tunnelling kicks in if you hook a survivor 3 consecutive times and if they’re first dead

[feral sand]

it's taking so long to find a killer game

[gaunt laurel]

Eh idk. There are maps more survivor sided than rpd

[sweet quartz]

Let's be realistic for a second, Pain Res, Pop, and Eruption still arent bad perks, they're still good, tje nerf just makes them suck a bit more

[cyan imp]

Killers can now feel free to bring other builds, so they don't have to only do regression. Gives more options

[visual sequoia]

take advantage of the fact that its difficult to hit the regurgitate and to control the head form lunge attack

[abstract tendon]

So I just got 12,500 auric cells??

[modest tree]

This I agree 100%

[muted panther]

Killers are just gonna proxy camp and tunnel even more lol

[round basin]

ye its crazy hard to hit with that tentacle smack. so just confuse tf outta them

[cyan imp]

the base kit bonus damage will add to them to make it about the same as before the change

[strong viper]

yeah for unlocking killers that you haven't bought in the steam shop that you want to play or try

[elfin cliff]

You can try to tunnel 2 people now but you will still be punished

[robust pike]

Dude I haaaate how you have to play lower tier killers in the ptb rn

[cyan imp]

why though? I know so many killer players that just play normally without those tactics and still win

[bronze perch]

I feel like she gonna need a few buffs, she feels too easy to counter

[modest tree]

Id say just go for straight end game builds blood warden no way out

[muted panther]

It would've helped killer avoid the anti tunnel a lot more while punishing those who intentionally do it

[ocean spear]

I'm glad they did this, I'm not a killer main but when I do play killer I'm terrible at remembering who I've hooked 😭

[robust pike]

You basically have to just circle gens and drop chases as low tier killers because you can’t waste time in chase

[round basin]

just played against a myers who tunneled someone out. why tunnel in the antitunnel ptb lmaoo

[round basin]

yep

[umbral delta]

Probably used endgame build

[hollow eagle]

to prove a point

[cyan imp]

I get you, My friend would always tryto do this to only get 13 hooks then let them go

[sweet quartz]

This, they're still usable, just weaker versions of themselves, I feel like the Eruption nerf was unnecessary tho, I understand pop, just 15% would've been fine

[round basin]

actually it was scratched mirror and he dcd shortly after

[void kiln]

Thoughts on PTB? (Not interested in doomposting, just want genuine opinions)

[bronze perch]

to get to see the new feature I suppose

[muted panther]

Because what else are they gonna do now that they can't gen regress and no unhook notifications, pressure has to be placed somewhere and killers are gonna be SUPER toxic now

[umbral delta]

Perks?

[foggy verge]

are all gen progress and gen blocking perks useless now?

[modest tree]

Not happy with it needs some work

[umbral delta]

No

[robust pike]

Currently? Dumpster fire of bugs and extremely bad balancing

But that’s ptb

[bronze perch]

anti-slugging feels good as survivor and hasn't effected me as killer. The tunneling changes feel a bit suffocating as killer

[foggy verge]

but i heard that theres no more gen progress and gen blocking now

[strong viper]

they buffed ruin but most of the others have been nerfed

[cyan imp]

you can still see when they get unhook, just not immediately. You CAN go back to hook, but it's not that worth

[round basin]

brutal lethal lightborn surge

[umbral delta]

That's only if you hard tunnel someone

[robust pike]

my main and biggest gripe is how just god awful the new meyers rework is

I like the swap between stalk and chase but the evil incarnate mode is just so, so bad

[round basin]

i mean he used scratched mirror so... cant rlly see the new features

[cyan imp]

I agree, the movement change needs some increases again

[sick fable]

A hard tunnel, imo, is 3 hooks in a row. Hooking someone twice in a row to confirm is not a tunnel

[umbral delta]

Elaborate

[sweet quartz]

No, they're still good perks, just slightly worse now, still very useable perks like Pop/Pain Res (imo at least)

[muted panther]

Plus the anti tunnel only punishes for tunnelling, not stop it. And given the fact that you can accidentally trigger it anyway, killers are just gonna ignore the punishment and still tunnel because they feel as though they’ll just activate it on accident anyway, so whats the point of not tunnelling if you’ll be punished for it even when you play the game normally?

[umbral delta]

Ok

[sweet quartz]

Eruption is debatable imo

[simple stone]

I FUCKING LOVE KRASUE BHVR I LOVE YOU 🤤

revert anti tunnel though

[umbral delta]

Pop is better to use tbh

[weary jackal]

Eruption is very, very dead

Pop is still good, pain res is debatable as is DMS

[bronze perch]

💀

[umbral delta]

Dms pain rest is still good

[weary jackal]

Problem is only like half the cast can use pop because walking over to the gen is not viable

[abstract tendon]

If I get an outfit with auric cells will I keep them forever or nah?

[cyan imp]

can confirm as well, hooking one, hooking two, then going back to one is still a playstyle that works with this new system. You don't NEED to do that, but it's still there

[vagrant hull]

I'm struggling with the basekit pop cuz I keep forgetting its even there

[modest tree]

Yup so might as well embrace the suck and build for it. No way out, blood warden, remember me, and noed.

[strong viper]

no

different game saves

[sick fable]

I just think that running into the unhooked surv after having to drop a chase against a strong survivor is way too punishing

[weary jackal]

It's cause over half the killers can't even use it

[sweet quartz]

I'd say pain res is still useable

[vagrant hull]

wdym

[cyan imp]

They show you the hooks as golden to show you have the bonus, and the gens have little fire bursts out of the pistons

[robust pike]

So currently, you can only stalk within 32 meters (used to be like, 50 so you could actually build gague without survivors running behind walls)
Once you decide to activate it, meyers stares at his knife? For some reason? For about the same duration as a PALLET STUN, then you gotta run down said survivor and then charge your m2 (shows you almost to a complete stop, and also a lunge now, so it can’t proc things like surge which was one of meyers bigger strengths) and pray that they don’t run left or right because the turn radius on it is comparable to chucky

[vagrant hull]

The fire bursts are the indication that you can do that? I thought they were just cool new effects for the generators

[muted panther]

Lets not get started on the fact that lower killers don't even get the new benefits for not tunneling as much as the higher tier killers, so there's probably gonna start being more kanekis,nurse,blight running around

[weary jackal]

We have gotten to the point where walking over to a gen is no longer viable. Kicking gens is only worth it on killers that can traverse the map quickly.

[void kiln]

Does the unique hook gen kicks count towards the 7 limit?

[lavish vessel]

sadako is cooked

[vagrant hull]

imma try this

[modest tree]

Yup I'm running nothing but kanekis

[vagrant hull]

just so that ruin has a second chance I got pentimento

[lavish vessel]

why did they nerf pain res its one of the only perks that encourages spreading out hooks

[weary jackal]

Useable yes but only because honestly all gen regression perks now other than Ruin suck now

[umbral delta]

Damn

[cyan imp]

I thought it was to indicate the bonus damage, but I cannot with 100% guarantee that. I think so, but if it is just a visual effect, then I'm wrong.

[muted panther]

like??

[vagrant hull]

I'll check next match

[sick fable]

Xeno feels... Pretty bad because you just can't tell who the survivor you're getting out of the vent for is and if it's the last unhooked surv you're kinda SOL

[cyan imp]

sounds good

[lavish vessel]

they nerfed Gen regression and buffed Gen progress an insane amount if the killer plays wrong

[real nimbus]

How does one perhaps get the ptb?

[robust pike]

I have a much longer paragraph explaining more of my gripes but also things like, play with your food being less viable since the time you lose from leaving chase gives survivors enough of an edge to snowball now, forcing you into a playstyle less centered around chasing and more around puppy guarding generators and leaving chase if it takes more than 30 seconds

[vagrant hull]

Gen rushing was already a problem now they're making it worse

[weary jackal]

Own the game on steam and you can play it

[abstract tendon]

Alright so any shards or blood points I have outside of the PTB I still kept?

I’m just making sure

[lavish vessel]

lower tier killers are kinda fucked honestly

[robust pike]

No seriously I haven’t had a match last longer than 10 min in the ptb, as killer or survivor

[real nimbus]

Where do i find it on steam..

[vagrant hull]

I mean I've been doing okay with Springtrap

[foggy verge]

does vigil and ghost notes perks stack?

[muted panther]

yeah im not playing dbd no more if the update pushes through because I get punished as killer for a survivor’s mistake and you wanna make it harder to pressure gens??

[robust pike]

spring is like A tier isn’t he

[cyan imp]

yes, on live you'll have your purchases and progress. They are seperate in PTB

[strong viper]

yes you'll keep all the shards and bloodpoints that you already have outside the PTB when you change back

[lavish vessel]

Is he lower tier? I thought he was like A-B

[void kiln]

Game properties then betas

[weary jackal]

do you own dbd on steam? like you do play on pc?

[vagrant hull]

Idk man I see him as like a B

[weary jackal]

^

[real nimbus]

Thank you

[winged stream]

you know what would be good anti tunnel is horsepower wiggle when you get tunneled and down then it actives it

[lavish vessel]

I mean like c and d tiers
They were already fucked but like this is just awful

[vagrant hull]

oh

[frigid briar]

wow holy shit game afoot noed rancor bw DID NOT work for me, the game refuses to transfer obsession status to people i have clearly chased the longest

YOU CAN'T USE ENDGAME BUILDS BECAUSE THE FUCKING GAME IS BROKEN

[lavish vessel]

if someone dies to pig or Sadako’s abilities the killer gets punished it makes no sense

[muted panther]

also apparently you can still get punished even after 6 hooks

[grand rampart]

Can I freely switch between the versions, or do I need to reinstall each time?

[stiff prism]

If this doesn't kill the game... Idk what will, I love the killer, love the Removal of kidnap tech, but the anti slug and tunnel are terrible and make so many perks either broken or OP, I love the game but this is... Just a bit much. I'm sorry but if this stuff does go to live servers they gutted the entire killer option to just blight and nurse, maybe ghoul and hillbilly. I don't want to see a game I love die so (not trying to sound like a jerk here but) from a survivor stand point, this is unfair as hell. Sorry

[vagrant hull]

you gotta reinstall it each time

[cyan imp]

you need to reinstall every time

[lavish vessel]

You can it’s cause the system also counts for hooking the same survivor twice in a row

[foggy verge]

does vigil and ghost notes stack

[ocean spear]

Pretty sure I saw someone say the reverse bear trap doesn't trigger it? IDK. Too many messages now

[vagrant hull]

If this goes to live in its current state I'm stepping aside and waiting for more fnaf skins

[lavish vessel]

Hopefully not but sadako condemn triggering it is the stupidest shit ever

[echo gate]

Does anyone else feel like Krasue Vault & followup dash is almost exactly like Chucky Scamper & followup?

[muted panther]

yeah so killers are rightfully upset because its blatantly unfair and everyone will be negatively affected

[frigid briar]

And why the fuck do people DC so frequently like there's no penalty???

[lavish vessel]

I really like the new killer but I lowk will js quit the game until they fix it this is not worth my time if it hits live

[robust pike]

Dude I’m so upsetttt bc I spent months getting good at loops since meyers (my fav slasher and current main) is an m1 killer, just for him to turn into a dashing bumbling idiot in a mask under the guise of a scary slasher, who can’t even turn during his down-dash that needs you to take a stun to activate tier 3, then slow down insanely slow while charging his ability

[spice tulip]

This PTB is a shitshow rn

[steady granite]

You should be able to injure a survivor after whipping them once its so bullshit

[simple stone]

surprised the new killer isnt all that buggy

[muted panther]

is the penalty still off?

[steady granite]

and dont get me started on this lunge

[vagrant hull]

I havent tried it because im not interested but I'm sure its fun

[lavish vessel]

Haven’t got to play her yet but I like what I’ve seen

[simple stone]

shes so cunty

[frigid briar]

I'm sure not gonna go test it myself

[vagrant hull]

the fuck is that supposed to mean

[void kiln]

SLAYYY

[grand rampart]

There's an item to change him back. The tuft of hair

[inland vine]

body tea

[frigid briar]

Her voiceover is lowkey annoying

[muted panther]

it is a nightmare omg its worse than i thought

[simple stone]

girlboss body tea

[vagrant hull]

o

[simple stone]

i love it

[lavish vessel]

The nerd to Gen regression perks is the worst shit

[spice tulip]

This whole 6 hooks needs to be downgraded to 4 6 is mental

[void kiln]

New killer a baddie. I LOVE

[lavish vessel]

especially pain res like how the fuck do they want us to play the game

[vagrant hull]

we cant even use any of them anymore

[wheat niche]

Burong is also a lesbian in her lore ❤️

[cyan imp]

I know this is a typo, I just imagined Dwight on the gen. the nerd

[robust pike]

yes, an iridescent addon that takes an addon slot and reverts him to semi-normal, while still causing him to get stunned when activating tier 3 and a majority of his other addons affecting his dash or stalk, not his actual duration

[vagrant hull]

im over here trying ruin with pentimento because my other options were crippled from the neck down

[lavish vessel]

if it genuinely comes down to using end game builds they’ll have made anti tunneling encourage playing and nerfing regression loop back around to tunneling

[modest tree]

Wait so if I hook the same survivor twice in a row it'll proc the antitunneling bs? I didnt know that

[muted panther]

how tf are you supposed to play killer without triggering the punishment??

[robust pike]

if your playstyle revolves around an iridescent addon for a killer then youre playing an addon, not a killer

[lavish vessel]

You have to follow the survivor rulebook now

[hollow wyvern]

well...that's the point

[vagrant hull]

I'm not gonna say its impossible but now its really fucking hard to

[worn bluff]

whats a good krasue build?

[wheat niche]

Some aura reading and stealth

[lavish vessel]

It should be 3 times in a row if it is even gonna be in the game at all

[exotic ether]

Myers addons are so bad now

[hollow wyvern]

end, brutal, spirit fury, jagged compass

[ocean spear]

As a survivor main, I full heartedly agree

[lavish vessel]

I love jagged

[wheat niche]

i found that stealth is fun on her

[robust pike]

ive got most of my current gripes spelled out here in this long paragraph, theres some other things but this is a majority of it

[modest tree]

I thought it was if I hooked a then b and then a and then b and then a and a dies it'd do it I didnt know that if I hook a twice in a row it procs it

[dark patrol]

killer mains, tunnel and slug as much as you can before this patch goes to the main game and we all quit 😹

[lavish vessel]

Survivors who’ve last been hooked can essentially play the game however they want

[thorny jackal]

can anyone please tell me how to use the ptb cuz im kinda new to pc ...

[muted panther]

yeah the game is gonna be super unhealthy. you thought killers were toxic before? now I don’t even think there’s going to be nice killers as much anymore, so all the survivors are about to have their games be a living hell.

[vagrant hull]

because if we kill them before we hook the rest we're fucked

[wheat niche]

there should be a timer attached

[muted panther]

killers are gonna be super spiteful now

[lavish vessel]

Even if they’re on first hook the anti tunneling will still trigger

[robust pike]

no seriously, im trying to be nice in the ptb but doing so causes 2 and a half gens to pop

[void kiln]

You mean how to access it?

[spice tulip]

Right click on game on steam and go to properties go to betas and click the dropdown to select PTB

[thorny jackal]

yea

[vagrant hull]

you need three people dead on hook or two dead on hook and one on the two other survivors to be allowed to kill one

[thorny jackal]

i do epic games :))

[lavish vessel]

better than what we have now

[hollow wyvern]

You have to be on steam. Click the cog by the game and press properties>betas>beta participation>ptb

[spice tulip]

Try the 3 buttons a shot mabye its in there

[thorny jackal]

oh

[lavish vessel]

the fact it can trigger at 9 hooks is asinine

this system existing as a whole is stupid

[gaunt laurel]

Apparently there is a new bug that gives you perma sprint burst speed lmao

[lavish vessel]

Ofc there is

[modest tree]

I like incolatas idea of having a timer

[void kiln]

Yes I saw that LMAOOO

[gaunt laurel]

On quaddi's stream it just happened. He's not sure how

[vagrant hull]

remove the second penalty and change the 6 hook requirement to 4

thats all I ask for

[cyan imp]

If the killer just spreads out hooks, you don't notice the system at all.

[robust pike]

dude i have never been more miserable than i am now, playing meyers in the ptb
i dont even tunnel or slug in my playstyle, and i still get punished for playing

[vagrant hull]

wdym spread out hooks

[little solar]

It's a bugged with conviction given hacker speed

[muted panther]

yeah all the killers are gonna be aware that 70% of the time they’re gonna be punished anyway even if they play fair, so they’re gonna tunnel and proxycamp because it’ll be the only way to have pressure after being punished

[elfin cliff]

How long does the ptb stay open for

[little solar]

Happened earlier

[void kiln]

A week

[signal eagle]

If the killer just throws, they wont notice at all

[lavish vessel]

say this to me when the last hooked survivor is T bagging and doing gens two feet away from you and if you slug them they just get back up

[robust pike]

thats assuming the killer can always find and chase every survivor in a reasonable amount of time

[hollow rampart]

Bro this update is so bad

[gaunt laurel]

Hmmm interesting. Hope no one gets falsely banned for it. But you shouldn't exploit it either if you know it

[sturdy pilot]

L

[acoustic mauve]

Ngl, 25% increased repair speed doesn't seem like that big a downside for removing a survivor from the match

[cyan imp]

the slug system takes a long time to proc, it won't be instant, the animation is slowed so the killer can still hit them down again

[lavish vessel]

I love the new killer tho she’s cool

[void kiln]

Not necessarily tbf, Hens was playing PTB earlier and didn’t even really notice the anti tunnel effects

[vagrant hull]

its so much faster than it sounds

[spice tulip]

it is do

[little solar]

Yeah i figured out its from the new crawling recover shit if you have conviction while crawling and pick yourself up it still thinks your in the dying state from that recovery and you retain the speed.

[astral ether]

Bro why is myers able to lung as if hes using chuckys ability he was perfect how he was why did they change him

[gaunt laurel]

Holy spaghetti code

[muted panther]

and when i escape as survivor now, i’m not gonna feel good about it because i used skills, I’m gonna feel like shit because it was not earned and basically given to me

[robust pike]

25% before any perks or tools

[little solar]

That's behavior for you

[kindred blade]

So is the anti tunneling as unfair as it sounds?

[spice tulip]

yes

[vagrant hull]

the penalties are the worst part

[void kiln]

If you go for the same survs yes

[signal eagle]

There’s a huge difference between noticing and them not existing. For example, I can not notice that there’s a cheater with 2% haste, but that doesn’t mean the cheater isn’t there.

[muted panther]

its the you cant kick gens permanently that makes it really problematic

[acoustic mauve]

Still there's 1 less survivor to do saves, repair, and heal others

[cyan imp]

Base kit bbq helps with that a bit. I also took iron maiden to counter lockers

[void kiln]

Tunnelling and cheating is a strange comparison

[spice tulip]

doesnt matter

[kindred blade]

Yeah that they need to remove

[vagrant hull]

That dont mean shit man

[void kiln]

A 3v1 is always easier to snowball

[acoustic mauve]

Yeah

[cyan imp]

it's also to support the team if a troll gives up deliberately

[signal eagle]

I’m not comparing tunneling and cheating, I’m comparing subtle stat changes to blatant ones. It’s easy to not notice a 25% repair speed bonus when you aren’t right there, but it certainly makes a huge difference

[robust pike]

base kit bbq is nice but it only works outsude of 40m, further than the terror radius. most killers do not have the speed for that to do anything besides give the survivors time to unhook and work on a gen while they just meander over half the map

[muted panther]

so if you are like otz and kill a survivor and get punished even AFTER 6 hooks and its down to 1 gen, you automatically lose.

[cyan imp]

10 percent haste is given after hooking

[void kiln]

Nah, the repair speed doesn’t proc if the survivor gives up

[jagged scaffold]

oof... first game I tried from the PTB as billy, what would've normally been an easy wipe now survivors got to the exit gate even tho they made 50000 errors just because I accidentally hooked someone twice and blocked all my gens

[little solar]

Hello friends and this is Otz, today we're going to discuss how Dead By Daylight is at its worst state ever. If these patch notes go into live servers and you think it's healthy for the game your crazy. This is going to be EXACTLY LIKE what happened to Texas. They buff on side and its going to kill the other side. Hope you surv Mains are happy for killing dbd. It's not hard to learn how to loop and be efficient instead of using youe anti tunnel perks to throw yourself in the killer face and want to be tunneled.

[robust pike]

10% haste is not enough haste to traverse most maps in a reasonable amount of time, if it was then sprint burst would be 5%

[solemn zephyr]

anyone else think shes super difficult to play?

[jagged scaffold]

(I still 4k but y'know)

[cyan imp]

in my testing it did

[merry kite]

Spam

[void kiln]

Probably a bug, it was confirmed in the dev stream earlier that it shouldn’t

[vagrant hull]

4k is still possible but its significantly harder

[jagged scaffold]

You don't understand, these survivors were bad, really bad

[cyan imp]

I guess that's classic dbd, inconsistent code. unreliable info

[jagged scaffold]

yet they almost escaped

[void kiln]

Trueee

[acoustic mauve]

Doesn't work like that, if someone goes next the buff won't activate, it only activates if you hook them while their one second stage, not if they don't get saved

[jagged scaffold]

That's just no, they went full gen repair, 0 altruism

[cyan imp]

a'ight. probably a bug then

[robust pike]

if i replied to a rant i made abt the meyers rework would anyone even read it or do i just gotta send it again

[astral ether]

Best thing bhvr can do to save dbd is say this is a bad joke and not release this shit show of a update

[fair comet]

i'd read

[vagrant hull]

i dont think its meyers

[robust pike]

bc i actually despise it, namely the dash. the swapping between tiers is nice

[void kiln]

Myers is wank, not much more to say tbf

[upper basin]

Uhh why are all my survivors etc in ptb level 0 :c

[void kiln]

Bug

[upper basin]

ohhh ok

[muted panther]

they cant release the anti tunnel, it will kill the game

[robust pike]

i have other gripes besides meyers but theyre all being adressed by everyone else, i need ppl to hear abt meyers from a meyers main

[sage umbra]

I will read it, and I already agree without reading it

[vagrant hull]

no I think you're spelling it wrong

[upper basin]

tysm

[void kiln]

[strong viper]

I just played against a team with 4 lookalike vees and only saw 3 of them (I think)

[signal eagle]

I mean I hate the myers change too, they basically removed his identity in favor of “dash killer means good”

[dapper saffron]

Myers feels worse overall

[cyan imp]

do you think it should proc or not in this instance?

if they decided one way or another

[dapper saffron]

Monitor and abuse nerf indirectly hurts him alot

[astral ether]

The entire update is shit even myres rework they gave him chuckys dash ffs

[robust pike]

i did just noticed i was spelling myers wrong lmao, ignore any weird grammar i was heated

[void kiln]

No. You shouldn’t be able to abuse it

[unkempt elm]

Yeah honestly the only issue I have with it, letting the 3v1 be slightly more efficient after the first person is tunneled out in under 2 mins makes sense on some level

[upper basin]

Also i got 12500 auric cells when i logged in saying something about previously purchased or something but i havent purchased in foreverrrrr did anyone else have this issue???

[cyan imp]

makes sense

[vagrant hull]

you're good I was just tryna let you know

[jagged scaffold]

8 hooks already on the bag
Hook a survivor twice, killing them in the 2nd one
I still get penalized

[void kiln]

It’s good they’re not allowing it

[muted panther]

i havent seen the myers rework yet how does he work now

[dapper saffron]

Also, there is no reason for the massive slow when you activate t3

[astral ether]

He basicly has chuckys dash on command

[robust pike]

they gave him a worse chucky dash bc at least chucky doesnt get stunned when he activates his dash ability (before charging, activating evil within causes an extreme slowdown/stun)

[dapper saffron]

Slower pig ambush that instadowns and breaks pallets

[hollow wyvern]

Entitled survivors just dc if you play anything but the new killer who is unbearable to play

[robust pike]

its not short either is like a solid 3 seconds

[toxic basalt]

Everyone's talking about Ghost Step and Vigil. But what about Ghost Step and Lightweight?

[signal eagle]

Basically dash killer, get coup on lunge when not stalking and it breaks pallets
He’s not even Myers anymore, just a random dash killer

[cyan imp]

are you on ptb?

[flat violet]

Is it possible to play online at ptb?

[void kiln]

Non existent scratch marks

[cyan imp]

yes

[astral ether]

Alr but he rework still wasnt needed he was perfect how he was before

[strong viper]

you get 12500 auric cells in the PTB and any previously purchased stuff (from steam store) saves

[robust pike]

he is just the weird child of oni and chucky

[muted panther]

does he still have undetectable like scratched mirror?

[dusk peak]

This game makes me lose my mind

[flat violet]

It seems like you'll never find the match

[robust pike]

i agree, but i do like the swapping between tier 1 and tier 2

[muted panther]

also whats his iri addons now

[upper basin]

OH okay thank yall sm ❤️

[cyan imp]

they give them on ptb to let you try out the store

[acoustic mauve]

He can just activate tier 1 on demand now

[upper basin]

Oh okay! :3

[signal eagle]

Yeah but you can’t attack out if it, you get a clunky swap slowdown where you can’t attack so sneak attacks basically don’t exist

[astral ether]

Thats lime the only good thing they couldve added to him

[muted panther]

im sorry what

[robust pike]

iri tombstone refreshes tier 3 after you HOOK (tier 3 drains when carrying now), and iri hair semi-reverts him back to pre-rework but indirectly nerfed

[void kiln]

Did anyone manage to mori straight off hook with the basekit tombstone?

[signal eagle]

It’s hard to explain without seeing it but basically it sucks, he doesn’t really stalk any more than he’s a weird chucky ripoff

[robust pike]

genuinely ive had more actual value playing scratched mirror on open maps than his lunge on any map

[cyan imp]

Myer's stalk also slowly decays after a short time

[thick lintel]

When is it going to be avaiable?

[acoustic mauve]

Ngl the things I like about Myers rework is the tier swapping, and basekit tombstone

[flat violet]

They said that to find a match in PTB it takes 1 hour of killer

[void kiln]

Basekit tombstone gonna make the achievement so much easier

[balmy sandal]

My personal buffs to The Krasue, lemme know what you think:

• Survivors who are cleansing with the mushroom should be revealed via killer instinct, similar to Wesker's power.
• The Krasue should be able to injure a survivor via Leeched in two hits rather than the hefty current amount. Two hits still give an incentive the use of her projectile whilst also effectively buffing her head form and making it useful.
• The cooldown/delay after you finish flying with the head before being able to M1 attack should be slightly reduced.
• Reduce the turn-rate limit/make her able to turn during an M1 via head form.

[muted panther]

so in tier 1 he cant attack?

[sly marsh]

No longer playing killer

[signal eagle]

If they just gave him the ability to swap tier 1/tier 2 at will and removed the need to charge an initial tier 1, he’d honestly be just fine

[stark barn]

ive heard enough. Make it so the killer is not allowed to kill until they get 12 hooks.

[strong viper]

add turning to head m1

[cedar cosmos]

Imagine if survivors got penalized for too many heals or flashlights like Killers are for doing their jobs with gens

[upper basin]

Tunneling is still very much a thing lol i just got tunneled out first game x_x lol

[acoustic mauve]

I also like that tier 1 doesn't have the short lunge anymore

[cyan imp]

My friend queued and it wasn't that long, maybe 30; still long but not worst case

[hollow wyvern]

The biggest issue is transforming from head to body form taking so long. Head can't play around some tiles, literally worse than an m1, and then is punished if they try to switch, if even just to break a pallet. It makes zoning impossible.

[balmy sandal]

I think my buffs don't help that issue, but it would make her feel better to play

[void kiln]

Yeah if someone doesn’t give a shit about the debuffs then they’ll still tunnel

[strong viper]

imagine survivors get punished for sitting on the gen for too long (it's like 10 seconds)

[upper basin]

True

[cyan imp]

this system won't stop tunneling, it's supposed to incentivize playing normally

[muted panther]

its gonna be horrible for everybody

[cedar cosmos]

Forcefully you mean?

[clever fox]

I’ve seen a lot of flaws in it that can still punish players playing normally

[brittle jacinth]

Is the tenacity rework good?

[muted panther]

the incentives arent even strong enough for killers like trapper

[clever fox]

If somebody doesn’t get rescued off hook on their first time being hooked it’ll still penalize you

[signal eagle]

Until I’m playing normally against 4 fengs and hook the wrong one while playing feng roulette, resulting in heavy gameplay penalties

[balmy sandal]

That's a known issue that was said in the PTB notes

[cedar cosmos]

And then will get told off to get better

[ocean spear]

This needs a fix because I would get confused as hell too

[strong viper]

new next killer update: you instantly lose if you hook a survivor once to prevent tunneling, you can't down survivors because that makes them sad and this prevents slugging, if you hit a survivor, you should feel bad and now get sent to the naughty corner

[void kiln]

The HUD gives you so much info, this situation shouldn’t happen even if they are matching

[cyan imp]

agreed

[marble bridge]

Hahahahahahahaha OMG can't wait for the 45 min survivor queues lets go.

[sudden nexus]

Is there any way to send like, a message out to the devs?

[cinder crater]

It’s not as bad in game, you can see who you’re chasing on the left and you can see how many hook states they have. One of my favorite parts of this update :)

[cedar cosmos]

If you hit a survivor the Entity will take the chance of starving to death and open the exit gates on 5 gens

[marble bridge]

I doubt the devs can even read based on this ngl

[signal eagle]

Ah yes, the hud that tells me that one of the 4 identical survivors is the one I hooked last. How helpful

[strong viper]

yeah the hud now shows hook states and who you hooked last with a dark outline behind the hook states

[muted panther]

you can still get punished even if you aren’t tunneling. like if you hook survivor A then hook Survivor B then hook Survivor A twice, you get punished

[void kiln]

It tells you who you hooked last and who you’re chasing/injuring lol

[ocean spear]

Good, cause when I do play killer I do my best to not tunnel, and that was before these updates started coming out lol

[muted stag]

is the ptb diff this time i loggeed in and my account is lvl 1 nothing unlocked besides the new stuff

[signal eagle]

Yeah, once you’re in chase. It’s unreasonable to expect someone to initiate chase just to figure out if they’re even chasing the correct person, just to avoid basically losing the game outright

[sudden nexus]

Ykw so fair

[strong viper]

yean it now is basically a new account but you keep stuff bought through steam store (and you get 12500 auric cells and 1 mil bloodpoints and free prestige 3 when you enter the bloodweb of anyone)

[sudden nexus]

I made a reddit post with balancing suggestions, just to put a bug in the brick's ear

[cinder crater]

Same! As someone who never tunneled these changes are decent buff for me. I’ve always wanted a way to see survivor’s hook states because I hated having to guess and accidentally killing someone :(

[muted stag]

ah i see ty i was worried i got reset for a sec there XD

[muted panther]

yeah its gonna be very awkward when you realize you’re chasing a surv that can punish you, so now you have to unnaturally drop chase with that surv and go after someone else

[strong viper]

you keep your stuff on the main game when you go back tho dw

[muted stag]

yeah all good haha

[marble bridge]

is bloodpoint gain fast in PTB? I want to try my mains build before trying krause but we only have 1m bp? o.O

[proven cradle]

ok, should Chucky be given back Scamper now that Krasue was given it too

[strong viper]

you get free prestige 3 when entering the bloodweb, and that V

[proven cradle]

BP gain doesn't matter in PTB
you get all perks

[signal eagle]

And then they’re already across the map on a generator in a corner where you’ll never find them, and 3 gens pop in your face because you have no pressure. I swear, people who think this isn’t an issue have never touched killer

[frigid briar]

oops, all bots

[brittle jacinth]

How can I play ptb?

[fading turret]

Nice to see killers going to be punished heavily for tunnelling and regression perks won't do much lol this is coming from p100 dredge

[strong viper]

dang

[muted panther]

wheres the people that was like “wAiT fOR tHE NuMbErS” to everyone who knew it was gonna be bad

[marble bridge]

How long are killer queues?

[frigid briar]

still here, saying "umm ackthyally just play better if u need 2 tunnel ur bad"

[fading turret]

Dredge hater? Lmao

[void kiln]

Playing dredge in ptb?

[strong viper]

steam
game settings - preferences - betas - beta selection - change none to public beta

[frigid briar]

"OMG WHY DONT U PLAY DA NEW KILLER"
MAYBE BECAUSE SHE FUCKING SUCKS????????

[autumn mirage]

5 games on a row all 4 DC the moment the match starts because i am playing Kaneki 🔥

[muted panther]

the only benefit to this will be that those type of survivors are gonna get tunneled hard more often

[feral plover]

Krasue tentacle strike sucks oh my god

[void kiln]

No she doesnt lol

[vital zealot]

The realness is - new killer is awesome, good design and not immediately oppressive like the last 5 killers have been on release. Her ability is cool and they designed it in a way you have to take advantage of it. This in turn leads to survivors being able to witness some of the most gut wrenching visuals we've seen since unknown imho. I think they really want the game to be fun for both sides but with these new changes killers have to play like dorks and just pretend they don't see the last person they hooked... sitting right there... t-bagging or what not... Prob some of the most infuriating killer matches I've ever had

[fading turret]

[frigid briar]

literally does but ok to each their own

[rocky bobcat]

The PTB changes suck ass so let me do a better job 🔥

1. Make Kindred a basekit perk, and then remove Kindred perk. This bridges the gap between solo Q and SWF, and makes solo Q a bit more bareable

2. Survivor who are unhooked should recieve immunity to killer instinct and have no collision (for 12 seconds or they do a conspicuous action, or if they have OTR, 80 seconds or until a conspicuous action) with ANY player in the match. This precents abusing anti-tunnel, griefing/sandbagging, and killer's bodyblocking to wait out BT.

3. Upon getting a unique hook on a survivor all OTHER survivors recieve a 5% gen speed debuff for the remainder of the trial. A unique hook will cause the killer to get a 5% faster weapon clean animation for the remaimder of the trial, and the killer gains 15% haste for 15 seconds. A survivor on a hook will cause all gens to lose 1 charge every 5 seconds until that survivor is unhooked. This encourages saves before gens and rewards killers for not tunneling

[strong viper]

imagine if it gets so bad that the survivors now have a queue to wait for a killer to want to play

[void kiln]

The self report 💀💀💀

[signal eagle]

The only way giving this many nerfs to killer and so many buffs to survivor would ever be balanced is if the haste basekit was absurd, but they don’t even last past breaking a pallet

[autumn mirage]

And because i simply dislike her playstyle + this PTB isnt only the new killer but also THE HORRENDOURS ANTI SLUG AND TUNNEL CHANGES

[frigid briar]

The low standards self report you mean

[strong viper]

and they have to do a bloodpoint bonus for killers

[feral plover]

I defy you to hit the tentacle strike on a survivor, they can literally step left or right while you charge up and you’re locked in to your trajectory the second you press m1

[marble bridge]

Fuck the new killer, play hostage singularity and tunnel the obsession out of spite. Let them finish the gens, see how they handle haywire + remmeber me + terminus with a killer that can camp the gates perfectly, forever

[fading turret]

Heavily agreed for both sides, but there's one flaw with it; no one gonna follow it

[autumn mirage]

She is indeed strong + mostly because nobody knows good counters to her, i simply dislike her gameplay loop but she isnt weak 😭

[vagrant hull]

I had a match where two survivors werent using the new one and were trying to do everything they could to piss me off while the other two were just goofing off the whole match

[muted panther]

oh and apparently friends till the end breaks with the new bbq, now you cant tell which one is exposed and which one just has aura reading

[vagrant hull]

The two that were tryna piss me off ragequit thankfully

[frigid briar]

"Ummm sorry but I'm not playing the PTB to play against Singula-" THEN DON'T FUCKING QUEUE

[rocky bobcat]

Yeah no one in here even listening to my suggestions anyway, this game is so fucking dead

[vagrant hull]

and the others were trying to test my commitment

[autumn mirage]

join me on playing Ghoul, i get people DC under a minute and cry their souls on endgame chat

[cyan imp]

I hope they change the colour

[strong viper]

i've hit like 2.... out of the many times I've tried (and that's because they were heading in a straight line)

[vagrant hull]

I got those two to ragequit

[heady ibex]

She should be oppressive lol like how gen rushing is oppressive

[autumn mirage]

i got so far 5 DC whole team under a minute on a row

[uncut veldt]

watch hens play her

[vagrant hull]

the other two decided to hide and see if I would DC after 10 minutes while they goofed off

I did not, managed to find and kill them both

[fading turret]

Dead as bhvr forcing killer players to play "npc" killers instead of letting us play how we want

[feral plover]

Is there a tech to it I’m missing?

[autumn mirage]

This is exactly the thing that needs an "anti-..." and not tunneling or slugging 😭

[marble bridge]

it's okay I'm studying while on queue 👍

[heady ibex]

Man I got to slug a whole team

[autumn mirage]

W killer

[marble bridge]

Why can't I change my server name: grrr

[frigid briar]

Don't you find it hilarious when they try to be friendly with the shitty bard stuff once they realise they're getting demolished, fucking pathetic

[fading turret]

I put 1k hrs on dredge and hardly even care about winning

[vagrant hull]

They were just hiding though

[uncut veldt]

no not rlly, she's kinda difficult to play

[brittle jacinth]

Ok thxx

[rocky bobcat]

If I was a in charge of balancing I would make a REAL difference

[heady ibex]

Dredge a very winnable killer

[autumn mirage]

Feels like we are doing a quest rather than playing as killers while survivors get to do whatever they want

[vagrant hull]

They didnt even do the bard thing I just found them and they accepted their fate

[cyan imp]

did they not get AFK crows?

[feral plover]

I mean I feel like the only value I get is from her fast head thing

[vagrant hull]

They were still moving around in their hiding spot so I assume not

[autumn mirage]

Yeah but specially on night maps with tons of obstacles it becomes hard to find anyone, can spend 30+ minutes on it

[fading turret]

Yeah, If you want to stick with winning instead of playing a chill game

[ruby dove]

I swear afk crows have been broken for ages

[uncut veldt]

think of her whip as a wesker dash that can activate against walls

[cyan imp]

I think you're right, they seem broken

[heady ibex]

If I wanted a chill game I would play some pve story mode on easy mode

[signal eagle]

Side quest:
Let the sable that’s throwing escape chase!

[autumn mirage]

implying winning isnt fun is wild 😭

[vagrant hull]

They said they liked my persistence though after the match ended

[feral plover]

I’ve been trying to treat it like a plague spit

[vagrant hull]

wasnt ragebaiting they were just giving a compliment

[rocky bobcat]

BHVR needs to stop pandering to the noobs and crybabies at their every whimp and cry. Maybe bridge the gap between SWF and solo Q, and make killer feel like the power role

[autumn mirage]

i mean this is what happened, the sable on death hook now can just escape or just chill in your face

[fading turret]

Yeah, whats wrong with that??

[cyan imp]

moving around wasn't enough. One had to touch a gen, totem or Objective to not get crows

[uncut veldt]

for her regurgitation or the head whip?

[autumn mirage]

weird W after an L

[frigid briar]

Like brother, you may not be playing PTB to play against Dredge (absolute L mentality btw, if you DC because 1 out of 10 matches doesn't have the new killer - you're an absolute worm), but I'm not wearing the War Is Hell outfit to be friendly either

[vital zealot]

Also I'm supposed have every killer like I do in live (you're welcome bhvr) please do not insult us like this when you need us to QA your shit for you

[autumn mirage]

Winning is absolutely fun, you can have fun without winning but straight up lying by saying winning itself isnt fun is wild

[feral plover]

Head whip, regurgitation is more like spring traps axe

[heady ibex]

@vital zealot buy them whats the problem

[fading turret]

I don't have to "win" to have fun, i just want to play my fav killer; thats all there to it

[uncut veldt]

no they explicity stated "bought on steam", you purchased auric cells then bought those killers through the game

[marble bridge]

Obvious survivor main pretending is obvious. 95% of players are not going to queue to be shat on by a bully squad. That is not chill, independent of if you win or not.

[cyan imp]

I'm always glad when killer players persist and still play. I try to thank them in end game

[vagrant hull]

Like I found them both and they were impressed that I stuck around long enough to find them, they were testing a theory that I would DC if I couldnt find them for long enough

[vital zealot]

the disrespect

[heady ibex]

So you lose most your games you give the survivors an escape?

[frigid briar]

Damn, that's a great mentality, guess that comes with time - I'm not there yet

[robust pike]

I’m never gonna shut up about how bad meyers rework is rn oml like to get a WORSE VERSION of his current kit you need an IRIDESCENT ADDONNNNNN

[heady ibex]

If so disrespectful don't play the game ez

[gaunt laurel]

Progress isn't transferred from live anymore

[strong viper]

you have every killer you bought in steam store

[vital zealot]

Italian fingers

[vagrant hull]

I mean it aint over til its over and usually its over pretty fucking quick

[last oasis]

I absolutely despise the black bar for hooks

[fading turret]

Are you implying that I should sweat my balls off against soloq/swf survs? This isn't a comp game lol

[uncut veldt]

yeah def dont treat it as a plague thingy, u might have more success pretending its a short wesker dash

[robust pike]

Dude the endgame is longer than the main game now 😭

[ruby dove]

I just think the myers changes turns him into an incredibly boring killer

[heady ibex]

Need aura reading for afk players

[echo gate]

Side note, the new Survivor looks exactly like Hayley Kiyoko's character in Lemonade Mouth lol

[robust pike]

it’s so badddddd

[mild depot]

Where can I post a bug, I wanted to post it on forums, though I couldn't find how to create the post

[cyan imp]

I agree with you. I want to stay and play too.

[marble bridge]

The pride charm codes dont work on the PTB. LITERALLY unplayable.

[vagrant hull]

"pretty fucking quick" as in I get gen rushed and they open the gates within seconds of powering them and I couldnt do shit

[heady ibex]

They didn't fix gen rushing

[signal eagle]

Or even worse, bodyblocking chase because you lose the interaction either way
Hit sable - goes down, stands up on their own if you slug, or you get heavy penalties for hooking. Survivor you’re chasing gets a ton of distance
Don’t hit sable - bodyblocked for eternity

[vagrant hull]

at all

[echo gate]

I think the 25% repair buff is fair if it accounted for how many generators are done when the survivor is tunneled out

[robust pike]

They made it worse, a way to get a permanent 25% repair speed and perma un-regressable gens is inexcusable

[cyan imp]

the AFK crows were supposed to out those players; but they're most likely broken at the moment

[sturdy pilot]

🏳️‍⚧️ \

[heady ibex]

Lol yeah devs didn't see the problem with the update we needed to slow gen rushing down so the game is actually longer and the killer can target other survivors before tunneling

[vagrant hull]

it was that and I also did not know about AFK crows.

[sturdy pilot]

✝️

[ruby dove]

everytime ive hooked this PTB when the survivor gets off they just do gens right in my face. Lovely change

[heady ibex]

Devs stupid AF really

[sturdy pilot]

✝️

[muted panther]

omg

[fading turret]

Then you're giving them the satisfaction to rage cuz they won't let you play the game, if anything, that's just asking for more rage instead of playing normally

[vagrant hull]

so just down them and let the slug cooldown go off, its not much I know but atleast you get a minute and a half of them doing nothing

[sturdy pilot]

THE ✝️ RUTH

[signal eagle]

Yeah lol, survivors basically win on the spot if you hook them in many situations. It’s incredibly clunky and stupid that such interactions can even exist

[vagrant hull]

please shut up

[robust pike]

Yep, I’ve also had more than a few squads sync survivors and outfits so I can’t tell who it is from afar and end up having to drop chase bc I haven’t hooked enough for the survivor rule book to grace me with not punishments

[heady ibex]

I suppose I should enjoy the console version before the devs fuck it

[sturdy pilot]

MAY JESUS OUR LORD AND SAVIOUR GUIDE YOU

[frigid briar]

There is no God here, only tears

[ruby dove]

God this is incredibly unintuitive

[sturdy pilot]

God is always here

[frigid briar]

This place is special

[vagrant hull]

Its the only solution I have for you and its the only thing you really can do to stop them without accidentally tunneling them and getting penalized

[robust pike]

Guys who all is unhappy with myers rework, just reply to this im tryna see smth

[sturdy pilot]

Jesus will guide you

[halcyon brook]

i think myers rework is good

[uncut veldt]

i like it

[fading turret]

It really depends on the player if they can find "fun" in it, if they can't find peace, its not for them to play on both sides in general

[cyan imp]

aye

[halcyon brook]

after playing it, myers feels fun

[robust pike]

Why and how?

[frigid briar]

We already in hell over here bro save yourself

[raven flume]

as a hag main i finally have a new killer i enjoy

[ruby dove]

Yeah not your fault, just goes against every logical thing. Drives me nuts

[sturdy pilot]

Jesus is lord

[heady ibex]

It's what the devs wanted when all they had to do was say fuck new survivors you got to learn the game and make gen rushing less a threat to killers

[robust pike]

Have you ever played old myers?

[vagrant hull]

its awful

[halcyon brook]

he has much more versatility and can become better as matches go on

[sturdy pilot]

✝️

[halcyon brook]

i have been playing since legion came out yes i have played old myers

[heady ibex]

Myers was boring as hell mate

[signal eagle]

Average bhvr solution is 10 steps backwards

[robust pike]

His lunge is sloppily recycled from chucky, it doesn’t match his character, it’s just turned him into a reskinned chucky bro like I don’t get it

[uncut veldt]

yup, dunno why i see so many complaints. they coulda made it so myers could fart and it would be a better basekit

[heady ibex]

And I should care why he fun

[frigid briar]

Meh, I'd still prefer to get something out of the time I spent to find a match, of course ultimately it doesn't matter and everything will turn to dust, but I launched the PVP videogame to play against enemy videogamers with the intention to outvideogame them

[heady ibex]

New Myers got my vote

[halcyon brook]

average BHVR solution is to nerf all gen-based regression perks and leave the survivor perks untouched PLUS the tunneling changes which are just PHENOMENAL

[uncut veldt]

agreed

[halcyon brook]

he only got one new attack. he is still virtually the same

[uncut veldt]

the only thing the lunges really have in common is the fact its a lunge lmao

[fading turret]

If i don't wanna sweat to win? Ofc, this game isn't meant for winning every single one.

[signal eagle]

Because nobody will be playing him in a week. Copy-paste solutions that result in worse versions of characters that already exist will just have people playing the better version instead

[robust pike]

I swear dude imma quit dbd if myers turns into a lunge killer like oni or chucky or pig or blight or twins, he used to be unique and scary

[sturdy pilot]

THE ✝️ RUTH

[heady ibex]

Your ment to try every single time

[halcyon brook]

he is not a lunge killer

[strong viper]

tbh lately survivors have been getting buffed a lot and killers have been left in the dust

[heady ibex]

Chucky is played, pig is played all lunge killers are played

[frigid briar]

the dbdpill is real

[halcyon brook]

well lunge is not the right word, dash

[vital zealot]

her not being oppressive is a good thing btw I don't really understand what youre getting at with this remark

[fading turret]

If any online games I play on my time aren't going well on my end, I switch to singleplayer games or just off my pc to relax lmao

[heady ibex]

No I like winning I don't go in wanting to lose

[void kiln]

You can meme about and have fun on a game too

[halcyon brook]

basically

[heady ibex]

So she not applying extreme pressure lol

[uncut veldt]

they literally just added charged coup on tier 3 myers that insta downs, nothing wrong with that and i dont see it as problematic

[halcyon brook]

wonder when killers will get an update in their favor lol

[fading turret]

Yes, they give you the choice, whenever we want to or not.

[heady ibex]

Yeah and lose sure.

[signal eagle]

At least use a better example than pig if you’re gonna bait lol

[frigid briar]

I guess the best middle ground is obviously you'd like to win, but if it happens that you don't - no biggie

[robust pike]

The new rework seems to think so, plus his old basekit had great synergies with things like surge since it was a basic attack, now to even get something resembling his old kit I need to use an iridescent add on- and I still get basically stunned just for activating tier 3

[heady ibex]

Not really your the killer legit your job to idk kill

[heady ibex]

Big biggie got to play more to get better

[void kiln]

It doesn’t matter lol, as long as you have fun who cares if you get a 4k

[heady ibex]

:l I care

[robust pike]

I’m a live server myers main and I’m gonna just have to either find a new main or stop playing bc I spent so long getting good on myers, and I had so much fun with him

[muted panther]

I just remembered that bubba can still proxy camp and instadown the rescuer!

[void kiln]

lol

[heady ibex]

I didn't que up to fucking lose sound like some pansys

[void kiln]

It’s a game btw

[halcyon brook]

well then get ready for more losing if these updates go live lol

[robust pike]

Like no other killer was nearly as fun as myers is dude im devastated

[fading turret]

Correct, if i can kill; I kill. If I can't kill; no kill

[uncut veldt]

or just... play his new power and stop whining...

[heady ibex]

FUUUUUUCCCCLKKKKKKKKKSHSHSJSKSKKSSJ

[halcyon brook]

myers NEVER was as fun as other killers

[robust pike]

Bro his new power fucking sucks

[robust pike]

Matter of opinion

[halcyon brook]

myers is the beginner/noob stomper

[frigid briar]

"Job" makes it sound like I'm getting paid for it
More like "Goal", I'm just trying to outplay the four goofballs who are also trying to outplay me, if I'm better - great, if I'm not - I'll be a bit better next time

[uncut veldt]

YOU are the problem lmao, its a skill issue if ur having a problem

[heady ibex]

If they to good it's not looking good I might go afk in the corner and watch YouTube

[fading turret]

I can play really really oppressive killers if I want to win, and you know who I'm referring too

[halcyon brook]

this new myers can handle himself in higher mmr now

[hallow cargo]

What's up with that new fire thing on the generators

[robust pike]

God forbid I don’t use one of the 8 lunge killers in game

[halcyon brook]

its for visibility

[heady ibex]

So your not the killer and your not supposed to kill the survivors or did I state a false sentence

[fading turret]

Or dont play killer and play survs or quit the game

[robust pike]

I’m consistently high mmr and get consistent 4ks with current myers, idk what you mean

[uncut veldt]

hes the exact same without instadown and a lunge bro, stop complaining

[vagrant hull]

I think its the indication that you can use that basekit pop thing

[hallow cargo]

so it doesn't impact it in any way?

[heady ibex]

Nah I'll wait for next game

[halcyon brook]

you are either using tuft of hair or tombstone

[signal eagle]

I agree. Sure, he’s better, but he also lost the appeal that made him unique. If being stronger over being unique is the baseline for changes, things are looking bleak

[void kiln]

It just sounds exhausting feeling the need to win every game. I could never care that much 😭

[fading turret]

There you go then lol

[halcyon brook]

i dont believe you otherwise unless you are otzdarva

[robust pike]

ill share my build rn

[vital zealot]

Not really ig but that's fine? She has a higher skill ceiling and iIfw it heavy

[heady ibex]

Most players aren't going to care they want good killer.

[heady ibex]

I'm not happy about it lol a reason I quit

[uncut veldt]

how is he not unique

[halcyon brook]

well theres also the thing about variety

[heady ibex]

So if your good she oppressive as she should be?

[autumn mirage]

And the colission dont even help for projectiles, ship like Wesker or Kaneki grab or basicly anything they can still body block or even worst they instantly heal under hook and recover collision 3 seconds after

[fading turret]

You're still not happy after quitting?

[heady ibex]

I play all killers mate I obviously see enough that I like it.

[heady ibex]

Fuck no mate I fucking failed to kill the little shits.

[jagged gull]

Bro I was having a near perfect game with killer doing everything flawlessly didn't tunnel at all, a survivor got themselves killed before 6 hooks and I got a 1k.. This upd is so ass

[fading turret]

Who do you play??

[frigid briar]

BRO OH MY GOD PTB VERSION DOESN'T FLASH ON MY TASKBAR WHEN IT FINDS A GAME

[heady ibex]

Rn I'm playing wesker

[frigid briar]

was about to miss my fucking lethal pursuer value

[uncut veldt]

this is such a non issue

[strong viper]

it does for me

[void kiln]

The repair speed shouldn’t proc if someone just sacrifices themselves

[fading turret]

Oh, wesky huh

[robust pike]

glass shard + J.Myers Memorial
pwyf, nemesis, coup, surge
(pardon the delay i was getting addon names)

[halcyon brook]

do u think BHVR meant the "TEST" part in the public test build name after this experience

[frigid briar]

Definitely gave me a jump when I alt tabbed back into it and saw 5 seconds left in the prelobby

[vital zealot]

Yeah definitely

[uncut veldt]

fair enough

[halcyon brook]

they either handle this in two different ways

[jagged gull]

I don't think you even need to test to know a kill before 6 hooks happens so commonly even without tunneling a single time 💀

[robust pike]

its not that i think myers didnt need a rework, but the rework they gave him feels incredibly lazy and untrue to the character, especially compared to what his kit used to be

[signal eagle]

Because his power is now just coup but you have to charge it. Being a lunge killer isn’t unique in the slightest, and about all of his stalking power was traded for it. He went from stealth to chase in one change

[halcyon brook]

nerf the survivor thats 1 hook from death so not tunneling them means they dont bring a big impact to the game

OR

reduce the amount of hooks required to avoid the regression ban

[heady ibex]

I been here for a month and a week so don't judge my p1s

[uncut veldt]

ehhh i disagree

[jagged gull]

Real

[robust pike]

it legit is though? like how is his lunge not just a coup with a charge, (that you have to charge after getting stunned for activating evil within)

[frigid folio]

Remove the random ass penalty all together it’s ridiculous, they just throw themselves at you so are forced to tunnel them so they get buffs and you get nerfed

[jagged gull]

They'll probably choose option 3: increase the hooks required to not trigger regression

[verbal oak]

guys where can i see the whole 9.2.1 live thing

[halcyon brook]

Funny of you to think BHVR employees play their own game

[heady ibex]

They giving call outs too PROBABLY

[autumn mirage]

Someone not ironicly answered me this as a "killers arent the only ones nerfed this update" 💀

[strong viper]

you have to get 12 hooks to kill a survivor to not get penalised

[jagged gull]

I am guilty of this lol, I got hooked and was kinda done with the game so I chased Myers down trying to force him to hook me again and trigger the debuff

[halcyon brook]

THIS IS SO FUNNY LMFAO

[ruby dove]

Im still unsure how this wasnt thought of. Reminds me of bully squads like 4 years ago lol

[frigid folio]

I don’t think they understand how the game actually works most of the time

[autumn mirage]

😭 bro is crying that they got their perks made basekit nerfed and not even downgrade version but straight up basekit

[uncut veldt]

holy ai

[robust pike]

dude im acc so upset, i spent so long and sm effort getting good with myers just for him to get the laziest rework dbd has ever seen

[halcyon brook]

you know what would even out this tunneling update?

[autumn mirage]

they actually answered me that image as a "gotcha"

[halcyon brook]

if killers got basekit deadlock and basekit pain res

[signal eagle]

I mean that’s fair, but to me, it just seems like his entire goal in matches has shifted too far into chasing. I don’t think it’s appealing to have yet another killer where their power is just the ability to break pallets in chase for free, and anti-loop. The only thing left about myers that is myers-related is the mostly-useless stalk mode

[heady ibex]

Dude like shut up OMG he got an addon for his ass old self use it.

[autumn mirage]

anti sabo, anti locker flashbang camp, anti healing in front of healer the first down by abusing dead hard and 8 seconds healing, etc

[uncut veldt]

mode switch > holding right click for a shorter chase m1 killer

[frigid folio]

They do random shit like this all the time that’s really busted with no thought, remember not that long ago the twins ptb? Blood favour activating with a singular Trickster knife

[halcyon brook]

@autumn mirage

[heady ibex]

Omg I want boring Myers back trash ass Myers back.

[autumn mirage]

if they made basekit pain res instead of 20% base pop some not S tier killer would have gotten value

[heady ibex]

His identity womp womp

[potent ridge]

Does vigil and the new survivor perk stack? :P

[robust pike]

bro his addon DOESNT revert him to his old self, you still need to manually activate it which causes a stun, its duration is shorter and you dont get the same buffs you got. D tier ragebait.

[halcyon brook]

u mean no mobility killers? yeah

[rustic pasture]

Sure do

[halcyon brook]

stuff like ghostface, pig, trapper would benefit IMMENSELY from that

[signal eagle]

Unfortunately

[heady ibex]

Rage bait who

[ruby dove]

Yet all these “nerfs” dont even compare to the nerfs regression has suffered for years.

Adrenaline originally was so broken it was run on every flashlight spamming survivor. Same for original DS

[dark patrol]

dont remove tunneling bro 💔

[fading turret]

Who knows, all I know vigil stacks are removed, so its possible vigil might not stack with the new perk

[autumn mirage]

yep, as a trapper main this update basicly left me unable of playing him or i loss....

[heady ibex]

I played the guy today he was ight ain't nothing to miss tho

[robust pike]

catch this block if you aint gonna take opinions and just insult the person who has them instead, grow up into a better person.

[slate robin]

that is the case for most killers

[autumn mirage]

also they actually complain about DS and Dead hard nerfs long time ago 😭 bro actually wanted the DS to be a free health state 24/7

[frigid briar]

Shortest game I've ever had, literally 4 minutes

[halcyon brook]

most killers aside from the A and S tiers lmfao

[heady ibex]

Blocked there ya go

[severe isle]

check pm

[weary pilot]

How are you guys liking Krasue?

[heady ibex]

I usually just block and don't mention it

[uncut veldt]

imo hes more of a stealth killer now than before. as someone who had to suffer through the "man in the bush" achievement i got very little stealth value since tier 1 lasts two seconds, now i can actually get stealth value with the mode switch. the lunge is just a replacement for the instadown and tbh i like it more since its a lot more fun to mindgame pallets with a huge lunge than just b3 main and lose 2 gens in the process

[halcyon brook]

killers like nurse blight ghoul dont suffer from this at all

[signal eagle]

Yeah bro is trash at rage baiting. He so badly wants to be a master baiter, but he’s terrible at it

[slate robin]

hell, even high tier it’s a struggle now. rip killer mains😭

[heady ibex]

Hopefully lol

[autumn mirage]

any killer would benefit from pain res rather than have to kick gens and loss all pressure, idk wtf they were thinking outside "survivors complained, will have to leave killers gutted"

[ruby dove]

God I forgot how insanely frustrating getting stabbed 4 times every game was. Pain

[halcyon brook]

cant wait for the 2.5x bp bonus on killer

[severe isle]

where all support?

[jovial juniper]

actually a really cool gimmicky killer, i could see myself playing her a lot. considering i main play unknown alot

[frigid briar]

https://tenor.com/view/no-i-don't-think-i-will-cap-avengers-marvel-gif-6420739801263939210

[halcyon brook]

BHVR forgets Killer players exist and tunneling and slugging are strategies that some killers NEED to survive

[autumn mirage]

basicly every killer got gutted except Singularity, Ghoul, Nurse, Billy and Blight

[robust pike]

i think his swapping between two tiers is actually really cool and a good part of an update, but i really hate how his new "ability" is just recycled from 6 other killers with the same power, it strips the personality from the killer

[slate robin]

😂

[severe isle]

чекни лс

[halcyon brook]

but obviously all they listen to is survivor whining

[potent ridge]

I noticed that the new instrument perk works very well with bardic cus it triggers bardics skill check progress increase a lot more often (obviously)

[uncut veldt]

u keep complaining ab a "stun." rlly goes to show how low ur attention span is if an entire killer is ruined for u bc of a 2 second power activation

[autumn mirage]

i had to learn to use ghoul today for this

[heady ibex]

That alot of killers use due to gen rushing lol

[weary pilot]

Unknown is the goat man. I love the geometry aspect of Krasue's Regurgitate.

[halcyon brook]

Gen Perks nerf? No!

[ruby dove]

Just nurse mains only for an entire patch. Watch how fast they gut her

[robust pike]

brother in higher mmr a 2 second stun is enough to win or lose chases

[autumn mirage]

or how before dead hard was literally sprint burst like TF

[frigid briar]

https://tenor.com/view/cat-gif-18227560506354614789

[heady ibex]

They should have made some but nope they said fuck killers also nerf their perks

[autumn mirage]

best we getting is 1.5 and survivors 5X

[halcyon brook]

THEY LITERALLY MADE TWO NEW GENERATOR BASED PERKS

[signal eagle]

I mean idk, I feel like the last rework had him almost perfect, and just needed some added qol/minor buffs. Such a major rework so soon is too much to me, and I think the way they changed him is uninteresting and not unique. I’m sure some people will like it (such as yourself) and others won’t, considering it’s an opinion, but I just don’t think it’s engaging gameplay in contrast to the other similar characters that already exist

[severe isle]

там баг новый new bug

[strong viper]

I have gotten gen rushed in every match I played in the PTB

[halcyon brook]

WITH VEE

[ruby dove]

THEY BOTH SUCK

[weary pilot]

They don't cause regression

[rustic summit]

How will the evil incarnate achievement work with the myers rework

[autumn mirage]

They dead serious leave Oni dead now without snowball and said "yeah giving him 2 extra blood orbs when hooking will make him as strong as before"

[uncut veldt]

i get where ur coming from, but ur looking at it from the surface level. yes, its a lunge, but every lunge is unique in its own way. same with teleports.

[halcyon brook]

thats beyond the point, its still a generator based perk

[uncut veldt]

then just activate it before starting chase with a 24 tr

[weary pilot]

No substitutions for nerfed perks will not sit well with the killer players.

[halcyon brook]

the whole point why Oni was A tier was the amount of pressure he could apply to survivors in the first place

with slugging

[weary pilot]

So you want to justify his indirect nerf from the anti-slug changes?

[heady ibex]

Think like ghost face or just his usual stalking

[uncut veldt]

fair enough, ur opinion. no real right answer

[halcyon brook]

when did i say i wanted to justify IM AGAINST IT

[simple stone]

how are ptb killer queues?

[robust tendon]

20+ min

[robust pike]

its duration is lowered to the point that this isnt as viable as it should be, and again dont get me wrong i dont fully hate the rework im just upset that its just, oni dash with chucky paint

[rustic summit]

What?

[simple stone]

better than i expected tbh

[ruby dove]

20-30 mins

[autumn mirage]

now his pression buffs survivor, after snowballing 3 times he will get 2 survivors with infinite unbreakable

[signal eagle]

New perks really doesn’t mean a lot when the effectiveness of each perk is lowered. When it takes 2 perks to get the same effect as what used to be one, that’s a nerf, and not a small one. It’s made even worse when considering the added repair speed for hooks.

[autumn mirage]

good until the match starts and all 4 people DC because i play ghoul

[halcyon brook]

they need to nerf several generator based perks

[robust pike]

stuns and windups can be adjusted and thats whatever, im mad they took one of the most unique killers in terms of ability and just slapped a dash onto it because they couldnt think of any better way to make it more viable

[halcyon brook]

Prove Thyself, Resilience, Deja Vu are the main three

[autumn mirage]

mostly deja vu

[halcyon brook]

with tunneling changes, it HAS to happen

[ruby dove]

Toolboxes and generator speed perks should have been gone ages ago

[autumn mirage]

saddly with bhvr "has" and "will" are two whole different sentences....

[heady ibex]

Gen rushing can not be a thing and not expect slugging and tunneling

[signal eagle]

I mean a nerf on both ends would be healthy, as far as generator perks. The problem is that there’s a huge focus on killer perks, and not so much on how absolutely insane toolbox/generator perks currently are, despite them being a factor in why gen perks are so overused

[autumn mirage]

guys lets remember this gem

[halcyon brook]

dont bring the jocelyn thing up again please its... not right

[autumn mirage]

idc about her but the message, she only deliver the message for which i shit bhvr not her

[vital zealot]

This is the realness

[halcyon brook]

sigh

[heady ibex]

Man console q time taken a hit

[halcyon brook]

but BHVR will never listen to killers because Survivors are the only people in their mind

[autumn mirage]

also sabo now is literally meta with the anti slug

[halcyon brook]

when was the last time Killers got a genuinely good perk that didnt get gutted before it hit live or a week after live

[ruby dove]

All killers leave. Survivor queue becomes hours long

[signal eagle]

Tbf it was miscommunication, but the fact that it took so long is absurd in general

[halcyon brook]

the thing is this is very unrealistic

[ruby dove]

Indeed

[halcyon brook]

all it takes is one killer, on the survivor side it takes 4

[robust pike]

im still not gonna shut up abt myers terrible rework, bc i spent legit months practicing and mastering a character just for it to be entirely overhauled into dashslop n im allowed to be upset abt it. fav slasher and one of the most unique abilities in the game just, thrown out for a dash

[autumn mirage]

Is because killers are used to being treat like shit and getting unfair survivor stuff they have to learn to counter while survivors are used to complain and cry to get what they want

[halcyon brook]

the odds of getting a survivor match will always be exponentially higher than a killer

[severe isle]

How do u feel about the new conviction bug

[halcyon brook]

i legit got told "killer cant, devour will help" in a DEVOUR based build once lol

[autumn mirage]

Knight? 😭

[frigid briar]

I think they did a pretty good job so far

[signal eagle]

Not really, that’s how tcm died off. Survivor dominated games, queues were flooded on one end as the other left, and then survivors quit because sitting in queue for 30 minutes sucked

[ruby dove]

devour got nuked with these changes

[signal eagle]

https://tenor.com/view/i-think-we-did-a-pretty-good-job-so-far-pretty-good-job-so-far-dead-by-daylight-dbd-mathieu-cote-gif-16678655163571277610

[autumn mirage]

For me the wild thing is how stubborn they were on saying it was "barely damaging" and not abusable, bhvr has literally never play a killer match ever since insta blind

[halcyon brook]

bhvr seeing tunnelling issues: AH YES LETS REMOVE A CORE KILLER FUNCTION

[frigid briar]

https://tenor.com/view/prettygoodjob-goodjob-dbd-deadbydaylight-mathieucote-gif-10764259

[halcyon brook]

BECAUSE SURVIVORS ARENT GOOD ENOUGH TO HANDLE A 1V3

[autumn mirage]

😭 i just.... idk anymore

[robust pike]

if they lowered the hooks before a kill to 5 itd be a perfect 1-1 since devour takes 5 hooks anyways

[halcyon brook]

it needs to be lowered to 4

[autumn mirage]

https://tenor.com/view/rage-bait-gif-17870535188958174605

[robust pike]

not a perfect fix but yk

[ruby dove]

Ah yes. Mr: Have you tried playing another game, maybe youre just tired

[severe isle]

survivours can have progressive speed and get up to speed and fly around the map literally

[robust pike]

why 4? not disagreeing just wondering the reasoning

[autumn mirage]

i have quite literally lost games where i was 3v1 at 2 gen left because guess what only taking 1 person is not an insta win button 😭 they had the most meta shit and got a 3 man escape all on death hook

[signal eagle]

Tbh it really should just be 4 hooks, or on a 10-minute start-of-match timer. It’s a bit absurd that you can be defending 2 generators with no hooks and still get hooking penalties

[halcyon brook]

because that way a survivor that cant be killed will stay on gens and since they cant be killed KILLERS CAN DO NOTHING.

they kill: gens untouchable
they dont kill: gens get done either way

[frigid briar]

https://tenor.com/view/hate-anger-rage-angry-power-gif-10705210

[autumn mirage]

100% and only give the 25% repair buff (should be still lower) if you hook someone 3 times on a row

[autumn mirage]

https://tenor.com/view/goku-dragon-ball-z-anime-meme-damn-gif-18107692

[weary pilot]

Survivor players, do you find Krasue to be fair to play against? I have only played as the killer so far.

[muted stag]

new anti slug goes crazy

[frigid briar]

As fair as punching babies gets

[marble bridge]

Krause is C tier therefore completely unusable with the new changes

[halcyon brook]

as a killer you are FORCED into several LOSE-LOSE situations with this update

[signal eagle]

I actually took his advice, now I’m mostly playing warframe with devs that actually care lol

[severe isle]

how u new survs speed:))???

[muted stag]

got slugged crawled cross map to door and opened it

[severe isle]

after use one perk 😄

[halcyon brook]

but yeah, lets emphasize the "TESTING" in public TEST server and pull out something SO ENORMOUSLY STUPID. but hey, we are testing!!

[frigid briar]

testing our FUCKING PATIENCE

[marble bridge]

They are testing my will to ever spend money in this game again

[potent spruce]

bro I swaer to god If I see another team just spamming the enstrument thing I will crash out

[barren spear]

What are these changes…i look on the patch notes to see a horrible bbq chilli rework, dms nerf, weasel nerf, pain res nerf and a completely unnecessary hope neef

[marble bridge]

and I have all killers + survivors, most with a skin 😄

[halcyon brook]

im not spending a dime till killers get some redemption lol

[muted stag]

i think its a very hard thing to balance tbf tho

[potent spruce]

like it was fun at first time but I WANNA ACTUALLY TEST THE GAME

[severe isle]

Yeeeahh

[halcyon brook]

its not hard. you have to make it fair to both sides without taking the base concept out

[raven flume]

im sick of seeing survivors trying to seduce me with the instrument then getting mad that im attacking them.. is that not my objective???

[marble bridge]

This all feels like salty ass survivor main got an internship at BHVR and for some reason got to plan a rework for the game

[weary pilot]

Do you feel that her power is fair to play against?

[sterile needle]

Then don’t touch it

[frigid sphinx]

Hope with Adrenaline is nuts right now, the ptb makes it reasonable

[halcyon brook]

like the body blocking prevention should have been in the game for YEARS

[frigid briar]

Keep doing it, maybe they'll learn what the "Kill" in "Killer" means eventually

[autumn mirage]

You hook everyone twice? good for you now you get to endgame with 8 hooks and no kill, good luck with all the body blocks!
You kill someone earlier than 6 hooks? good luck now you can enjoy no regression and 25% repair buff!
You just chase and dont waste time on kicking gens? good luck you got genrush!!!
etc

[halcyon brook]

bhvr employees are so smart it amazes me

[raven flume]

I do continue but then in endgame im called a loser for not letting them show me their drum like dude.. idc for your drum

[halcyon brook]

im about to start asking BLIZZARD to balance this game

[marble bridge]

Have you heard of our lord and savior, Endgame singularity?

[muted stag]

i thought maybe it could be mode based maybe? like normal mode with it and a more comp style mode without it

[frigid sphinx]

the one two three four perk instrument looks shit, but if they whip out the bardic inspiration instrument instead then i let them go

[frigid briar]

It's still piss easy to bodyblock btw, if you're clipping into the killer while they're bumping into another survivor and swing - you take the hit

[raven flume]

valid asff

[halcyon brook]

yet another BHVR W, lets hear it for them

[marble bridge]

No killer wants to play with this shit, its literally worse than the old DH DS Mettle of Man bully squad shit

[ripe summit]

when is the killer come out?

[signal eagle]

Switching to warframe was the best decision I ever made tbh, probably the only devs to make it big and still actually care about the players

[halcyon brook]

funny cause i JUST STARTED PLAYING WARFRAME TOO LOL

[muted stag]

thats what i mean tho have the easy help stuff in a quick play style mode and then have it normals in a more comp style mode

[strong viper]

now in the PTB unsure when in live

[frigid briar]

Okay NOW my taskbar flashed

[halcyon brook]

3 weeks from now

[ripe summit]

ok

[marble bridge]

Never, Behavior is done, they closing office soon

[signal eagle]

Honestly such a good game, and better than this garbage lol
Plenty of content too

[marble bridge]

[halcyon brook]

yeah im grinding hard in warframe rn

[strong viper]

dang welp pack up boys we going home... lel

[halcyon brook]

my dbd rift is still at tier 1 since the walking dead update came out LOL

i havent touched 2v8 either

[muted stag]

what do we think about new myres?

[halcyon brook]

no new killers on 2v8? no reason for me to play

[strong viper]

2v8 hasn't had a new killer since last one they just added play while you wait for killer

[signal eagle]

I’m like 500 hours in, about to finish a level cap Yareli build. I made 700 plat when caliban released and I’m looking forward to plague star event in a week

[halcyon brook]

i got a 75% discount yesterday and got myself 1k plat, lifes good

[marble bridge]

I tried warframe but its not for me, at least not at the start. Just mindless grinding with no skill required

[halcyon brook]

oh it gets worse later lmfao

[fading turret]

Was hoping to get dredge & Unknown into 2v8, perfect nightmare fuel

[coarse yarrow]

I don’t get the hate, I play 50-50% survivor and killer. Tried the PTB out today and the new killer (once everyone gets used to it) will end up being an “okay” and not overpowered killer that may even need a buff by herself in a later stage.

The new killer needs some refining on her 3rd person camera clippings sometime and maybe up the cooldown after vaulting a pallet in head-mode to be able to M1. Chicken Head addon is definitely not strong and might need a buff to instant Leech II from the start.

Myers changes seem cool, personally believe the time needed to get power (Evil incarnate) needs a small increase.

The picking yourself up after being slugged (the bottom bar) should in my opinion just be reset everytime someone gets up instead of carrying over after being picked up/unhooked.

Perk changes make sense in combination with some “basekit” addons on both sides.

[halcyon brook]

as in difficult

[halcyon brook]

no one is hating on Krause she is cool

[marble bridge]

Liar. This us an absolute nerf for killer, hard. Getting 1-2k is difficult for killers that got 4k comfortably.

[halcyon brook]

what you said about slugging is also okay, but it still hurts slugging-reliant killers at the end of the day

[coarse yarrow]

I cant lie it is my opinion 🙂

[signal eagle]

It’s very nice. And the devs actually care too, had a friend who missed out on an omni forma drop in a mission and he got it in a day from support easy. It’s also super easy to trade for plat if you don’t want to buy it

[halcyon brook]

but the tunneling update? actual braindead

[ruby dove]

the killer is fine. Its just… Everything else

[halcyon brook]

yeah

[muted stag]

i think slugging is ok maybe less crawl speed but that seems decent

[halcyon brook]

giving survivors more playtime on a match should NOT equal killer losing pressure

[frigid sphinx]

Do you think they’d give me a Legendary Core which I accidentally wasted on a Toxic Flight exilus mod years ago

[coarse yarrow]

You guys are upset you cannot tunnel as much anymore? Please let me know how that is and why you can’t play around it

[proven cradle]

come on...

[halcyon brook]

did you read anything we said

[strong viper]

yeah tbh I only slug when I know where the other survivor is and I don't actively tunnel (I did go back to hooks but that was to try and get the one that unhooked)

[ruby dove]

Love the amount of survivor perks becoming basekit. Basically nothing killer wise is basekit lol

[signal eagle]

I feel like the anti-slugging wouldn’t be terrible if it didn’t also come with so many ways for survivors to avoid being hooked. The crawling speed makes it impossible to find people if you leave them for more than a moment, and there often isn’t a choice to pick

[hardy dew]

The anti-tunnel mechanic is… very bad and even playing as survivor and killer it really isn’t very good at serving its intended use

[halcyon brook]

because that way a survivor that cant be killed will stay on gens and since they cant be killed KILLERS CAN DO NOTHING.

they kill: gens untouchable
they dont kill: gens get done either way

[proven cradle]

Pop Goes The Weasel + BBQ&C

[coarse yarrow]

I dont tend to read back 2000 messages when I just open a chat no but feel free to link me

[frigid sphinx]

we’re not - you’re just misunderstanding why they’re unhappy in the first place - it’s heavily survivor favouring, these changes, but regardless, killers will still find new and creative ways to circumvent the new annoyances that they encounter

[slate robin]

huh? what r we looking at here?

[muted stag]

yeah the crawling is insanly fast but for a first test i think its decent

[fading turret]

Im fine with that, lol.

[hardy dew]

Like if I bump into the same survivor twice while everyone has 1 hook stage and the said “Tunnel victim” has 2 doesn’t that just make it normal interaction

[signal eagle]

I mean it wouldn’t hurt to try lol, but probably not. He did need to tell them what mission and when so they could verify that it actually happened, and that might be a bit too long

[proven cradle]

difference between Regular Knife and Prestige Knife on Krasue

[slate robin]

literally no difference

[hardy dew]

There’s barely a difference

[signal eagle]

That’s where I’m concerned, there’s rarely a line between “first test” and pushing to live with this company. The first test is often the only test if there isn’t enough pushback

[halcyon brook]

these last few dbd updates have gotten so bad that i have tried playing LEAGUE OF LEGENDS

[hardy dew]

It’s just 2-3 thin red veins

[proven cradle]

yeah, a single vein strand

[coarse yarrow]

So you get free Barbecue basically now and can literally see which person you need to go to next?

[hardy dew]

Don’t they usually cover it in red veins

[proven cradle]

they didn't even add blood to the texture, they just added a single fucking vein

[halcyon brook]

do you not get what im saying.

[frigid sphinx]

awww rip, they’re so rare to get from
sorties right? Or at least that’s what I was told, I’m somewhere between MR12 to MR15 I think

[muted stag]

but league goes hard

[hardy dew]

That’s still not enough lol

[halcyon brook]

a person on 2 hooks will now be INVINCIBLE because they cant be killed otherwise killers get a EXTREMELY PUNISHING nerf

[muted stag]

yeah sadly that is true alot of the time

[hardy dew]

Competent survivors will take advantage of this “Anti-tunnel” mechanic and just use it against any killer

[halcyon brook]

and then imagine the survivor being tunneled has the sable basement perk

[frigid sphinx]

more slowdown perks time

[halcyon brook]

the killer is FORCED to kill them but if they do they punish themselves either way

[signal eagle]

Yeah it’s like a .2% from sortie, but you can run it daily and they run events from time to time

[hardy dew]

Killers getting punished for killing

[halcyon brook]

yep

[strong viper]

yup body blocking a lot and stuff

[autumn mirage]

also we got BBQ basekit which now everyone jumps on lockers the second you grab a survivor 🔥 i love getting 0 value from my basekit that is suppose to replace tunneling and slugging

[proven cradle]

well, this is springtrap's (at least it has blood on it)

[ruby dove]

The strength of BBQ was not knowing you had it in the first place. Knowing it always exists is hilarious

[halcyon brook]

next killers will ask for Survivor consent to hit them

[fathom bane]

Death hook survivors have no collision though?

[hardy dew]

It looks like someone glazed it with nail polish and put a sticker on it wtf is that

[proven cradle]

is the basekit bbq bugged, because I literally haven't seen it activate once

[autumn mirage]

i do and ngl i cant play him because i dont like having to be constantly making sure my cameras werent EMP and some stuff is complicate to do as singularity even if it pays off good

[signal eagle]

If it wasn’t for that, I think people would be less concerned. I think the community would be less nuclear about every ptb that happens if bhvr actually used ptbs as the test they’re supposed to be, rather than glorified adverts for major patches

[runic thorn]

krasue terror radius bugged? why is it so loud when i'm doing a gen?

[halcyon brook]

they need to revert the ENTIRE tunneling and slugging update and rethink how they handle it

[strong viper]

they have literally no collision? I though that was until they did an action or stuff

[hardy dew]

Anti-tunnel perk should def be removed or heavily tweaked

[autumn mirage]

is like normal BBQ if they are on a locker when you hook you dont read their aura so everyone is just doing that

[deft cosmos]

You shouldn't be able to crawl while recovering. It makes those moments where you slug just for a bit to apply more pressure worse since you can't really find the first guy to hook after downing the second, AND they're fast to pick up by others rather than one or the other. These changes were supposed to avoid hurting situations like this

[hardy dew]

Because anti-tunneling on paper sounds good but the execution seems more like anti-killing lmao

[deft cosmos]

Check their perks, might be the new hex

[proven cradle]

imo, the only thing that should be there to incentivize not tunneling should be killer buffs when NOT tunneling

[prisma venture]

For me personally, it’s nit about not being able to tunnel. I almost never go out of my way to tunnel. It’s about not being able to capitalize on survivor mistakes. It’s about not being able to be rewarded for their bad plays. The idea that i find you, hook you, and then you get off of hook, heal, and play so poorly that I find you again, means I should get another hook. But now I have to look the other way, just let you go or risk getting punished for your mistake. This wont make survivors better at the game, it’ll just change what they complain about since they’ve learned that they shouldn’t be punished for playing poorly. I’m a 50/50 player, and after this update I’ll only be playing survivor because this ruins a huge aspect of the thrill of the hunt chases for me. And if you think it’s okay for the game to be less fun for killers, ask yourself what happened to F13, or VHS, or TCM. They all died when the killer players didnt want to play anymore.

[fathom bane]

Survivors on death hook have no collision
Survivors on first hook have no col for 30s

[autumn mirage]

only things that can stay is the killer buffs, the new killer and new survivor the rest gone

[ruby dove]

im worried they will just push all of this to live

[halcyon brook]

the entire idea is to limit a killer's playstyle

[hardy dew]

The non-tunneling mechanic laterally makes normal killing borderline impossible

[prisma venture]

The minimum range they have to be outside of is just way too big, so more often than not you get 0-1 pings from it.

[halcyon brook]

and when a killer's playstyle is limited it is OFTENTIMES when they are forced into losing