sports-discussion

[echo ore]

They were in those games

[dark flare]

If bellingham wasn't, they would do it instead

that is the point 😭

[echo ore]

Yea okay let me know who was doing jude here

[dark flare]

Bro... it's napoli and berlin

There is no argument for this lol

[echo ore]

Napoli and berlin and your boi dropping 7.5s

[dark flare]

my boi is winning madrid the ucl while your boy is yet to be found since 2024 😂

Give bellingham napoli or he won't score

[echo ore]

Either with vini

[dark flare]

Bayern? City?

lol

[echo ore]

Berlin? Braga?

Napoli?

[dark flare]

congrats jude 😂

Such hard teams

[echo ore]

So those games weren't important?

[dark flare]

All of them were but if bellingham was not there somebody else would of been there

What happens if vini doesn't exist for city or bayern again?

[echo ore]

They still tie and go to pens because then they'd have someone who would defend

Without jude they lose the shootout

By your logic

[dark flare]

Oh so you think madrid would be able to rely on penalties if vini didn't exist? Lol

[echo ore]

No I'm using your logic and saying madrid lose in the shootout without jude

Because he played all 120min unlike vini

[dark flare]

Oh so you think anybody else other than jude wouldn't have scored the penalti?

[echo ore]

You think no one else would've scored like vini? It's the same argument

[dark flare]

Oh would they hmmm?

Who? Brahim diaz?

Cant be bellingham I think

[echo ore]

Joselu easily

[dark flare]

Yeah okay lol

Joselu 😂

[echo ore]

I can make things up as well

[dark flare]

Make things up?

[echo ore]

Yes?

[echo ore]

This is literally making it up

[dark flare]

How?????

[echo ore]

"If something...then something"

[dark flare]

How would madrid lose in the group stages?

[echo ore]

2 losses to napoli

[dark flare]

What are you onnn loooool

[echo ore]

2 draws to Berlin

Does not qualify

[dark flare]

Bellingham unexistent doesn't mean g/a unexistent that's the point

[echo ore]

And vini does?

[dark flare]

Yeah?

[echo ore]

Soo making things up now

[dark flare]

WHO WOULD REPLACE HIM LOL

[echo ore]

Who would replace jude

[dark flare]

anybody

BECAUSE IT'S BERLIN

[echo ore]

Making up again

You've just proven to give double standards

[dark flare]

Yeah ok mb for not comparing madrid to the likes of napoli ninth place in serie A and berlin meme team 😂

[echo ore]

You're right madrid would've been out to 9th place serie a

[dark flare]

Yeah okay you're right mhm 😂

I can see bellingham's ultra importance these past couple of days

Madrid would not qualify through the group stages in decades because of NAPOLI AND BERLIN yeah okay

[echo ore]

You wouldn't even be seeing vini without his importance for 6 months

[dark flare]

Vini has contributed BETTER than bellingham 😂

Ong you pushing this bellingham thing at this point in time of the season is so pathetic

he is also known as ghostgol

[echo ore]

You pushing vini this hard is pathetic also

[echo ore]

In what way?

[dark flare]

Yeha fr mb for speaking the truth about the barcelona hattricker girona owner city dominator and bayern father vini

[echo ore]

The cm owner girona literally more...braced barce and game winner barce. Carried through groups

[dark flare]

By having more g/a and earlier than him and in the most important moments rather than trash teams like bellingham lol

[echo ore]

Still a forward

[dark flare]

Bellingham still an attacker 😂

[echo ore]

No he isn't

He's a center mid

[dark flare]

If he doesn't attack how would he have so many goals? Does he score from the midfield? Lol

[echo ore]

Lmfao that's the definition? If they score they are the same level of attacker as a forward?

So Brandon Vazquez is a forward now cause he scores

[dark flare]

Bellingham doesn't just score

He (used) to score all the time

You can only do that if you attack regularly

He doesn't do a kross or modric lol

[echo ore]

Literally not even a true statement

[dark flare]

It will be so funny when bellingham doesn't even get into the top three 😂

It's between vini jr and bellingham for the top 1 but idk bro, i "think" bellingham will ghost in the sf and finals and vini jr will give madrid the ucl 😂

At this point ancelotti should just put kross and modric and valverde and no bellingham

After all modric got in and did what bellingham couldn't the entire time he was in the pitch 😂

[rancid umbra]

You're not wrong

at the same time he should put Vazquez in for Vini
He does the same as vini does

[echo ore]

At least valverde scores memorable goals

[dark flare]

Fr, he has more g/a than mbappe

And has 5 g/a throughout the quarters and first leg of the sf

Tbh vazquez does the same as bellingham aswell

He ghosts against the big teams

[silent kindle]

Man, what you got against small people and low views... They not popular enough like Messi so they don't deserve anything?

[echo ore]

No I said he's using a literally small twitter account as evidence that vini is better than mbappe lol...in which the account itself hardly anyone agreed

If I post a tweet from random person and say "see this is proof"

[silent kindle]

Could be proof, but what do I know, I'm not a lawyer.

[dark flare]

No, I posted to show people are starting to question mbappe and vini jr

[echo ore]

Imagine I took a tweet that said "ronaldo is better than messi" and said "see proof. People think he's better"

[dark flare]

Huh duh ronaldo messi 🙄

[silent kindle]

Blasphemy, no one can be better than the god himself

[dark flare]

These players have to retire asap

[silent kindle]

Wait who?

[dark flare]

Both ronaldo and messi

[silent kindle]

Why?

[dark flare]

So that people stop talking about them

Their era is long gone

[echo ore]

People will never stop talking about messi

[silent kindle]

I think that's a bit too late,

[echo ore]

They will stop talking about vini

[silent kindle]

Nor Ronaldo

[dark flare]

messi is new

eventually he will be a pele

[echo ore]

Copium

[dark flare]

no, it's the truth

[silent kindle]

See? 70 years ago, and people stil tall about Pele

[dark flare]

People will minimize eras old football

will say he was playing against farmers

[echo ore]

No one will minimize 91 goals in a year

[dark flare]

he stat padded so many teams for that lol

[echo ore]

Surely vini could also?

[dark flare]

who is comparing vini to messi?

[echo ore]

Even ronaldo never hit 70

[dark flare]

Well, that at least is closer than vini vs bellingham

[echo ore]

You think vini is closer to messi? Than mbappe to vini?

[dark flare]

i meant bellingham

[echo ore]

Nah don't change it lol...

[dark flare]

wdym dont change it lol

[echo ore]

Oh now we're comparing a cm to a forward

One that's 3 years older lol

[dark flare]

you wont be using that argument next season

Because bellingham will keep this fall off

[silent kindle]

3 years ain't that much.

[echo ore]

You're right. I'll be using mbappe to Jude

[dark flare]

put jude in lower case

he aint allat

[echo ore]

Copium

[dark flare]

Bayern? City?

a first half of season only player

he will keep his second half performance forever

[echo ore]

Not being subbed? Same rating as vini?

Taking a pen? Scoring tap ins?

[dark flare]

You care about ratings I care about ucl knock-outs and titles

[silent kindle]

Hey, scoring tap ins is hard

Ask bayern players

🫢

[dark flare]

Bellingham couldn't score a tap in and he's diminishing vini for it lol

the almighty belligol

[echo ore]

When does jude get tap ins?

He's a cm?

[dark flare]

no excuses mr goal

he could have scored a tap in in the bayern game

But he decided not to trust vini with passing the ball

He has to know his place

[echo ore]

Copium

[dark flare]

you'll cope hard when bellingham ghosts for the rest of the cl 🤣

You should be hyping up kane instead if you want to hype english players

belligol is a fraud

[silent kindle]

Oh yeah, let's hype Kane... He needs support to defeat the 12 players of real

[dark flare]

You can't argue against kane's season

[silent kindle]

I don't care about his season, I care about his performance against real

[dark flare]

He scored

And he got a high rating

[silent kindle]

Yeah I know, but not enough

[dark flare]

what? He is supposed to score twice against real?

[silent kindle]

Morr like 5 times

So maybe, fifa can't help real

🫢

[dark flare]

cope my guy real is winning the cl

[silent kindle]

I'll pray to d10s that they don't

[dark flare]

you can't stop vini

[silent kindle]

Ah but we all know the script

Impossible to stop real

[dark flare]

not leipzig, not city, not bayern, and definitely not borussia or psg

[dark flare]

0 refereeing scandals for real in the ucl this season

[silent kindle]

Yeah, they stopped doing refereeing scandals and now everyone is following the script

🤭

[dark flare]

?

What team do you even support

[echo ore]

They gave them the scandals in la liga

[dark flare]

Barca had two chances to beat real and they couldn't

Same with girona

Both are very down there

That's about it

[silent kindle]

Miami Heat

[silent kindle]

Oh really?

[echo ore]

Yea. Even one that should've gave vini a red

[silent kindle]

But seriously speaking, it has to be scripted, no way bayern missed so many easy goal opportunities, and vini scored on the first try.

[daring fern]

soccer is trash

[echo ore]

https://www.reuters.com/sports/soccer/spanish-fa-files-complaint-over-real-madrid-var-audio-leak-2024-01-23/

Var shouldve gave a vini a red and they also awarded a pen

[dark flare]

It's vini after all

Make almeria win and tell me how the table appears

[silent kindle]

The actual police... God damn

[silent kindle]

What's soccer? 🫢

[daring fern]

soccer is when you kick a ball into a net

[dark flare]

Handegg is when you run

That's about it, nothing else really

[leaden flicker]

There’s no such thing as soccer

It’s football

[echo ore]

that's just a lie

[leaden flicker]

Me?

[echo ore]

yes you

whether you like it or not, there is such thing as soccer

[leaden flicker]

Shut up u American test

Twat

[echo ore]

the british came up with the word

[echo ore]

read it and weep

[silent kindle]

But are you sure all sports aren't a lie? Reality itself isn't a lie?

[echo ore]

yes im sure

[silent kindle]

Are you free from the matrix?

[main panther]

VAR was taken too seriously 💀

[silent kindle]

It shouldn't?

[wicked void]

76ers in 7

[craggy flume]

Why aint polls allowed

[dark flare]

The pl is out of the conference league 🤣

Every pl team out of europe

[limber root]

Leg one dimwit

[echo ore]

Casual neo not knowing ball moment

[dark flare]

You forgot to realize aston villa lost at their home

by 2 goals

they are NOT going through lol

[echo ore]

So you're saying the away team won the game?

But the other away team can't win the game?

Weird logic

[dark flare]

Bro just stop thinking villa will comeback on aggregate 😂

say goodbye to pl

[echo ore]

No I'm thinking how an away team winning means the other away team can't win

Especially when villa dominated the entirety of the game

[silent kindle]

Supposedly, if you can win as an away team, you will win even harder as a home team

That's the theory at least, but we all know they have to follow scripts sometimes

[dark flare]

No scripts ever

[pearl coyote]

hello

[limber root]

Because an away comeback has never happened in the history of this game 🤦‍♂️

[sinful hawk]

Is

[rancid umbra]

Villa are a class side on their day

They absolutely could out 4 or 5 past Olympiakos no issue

[echo ore]

not to mention villa were at 66% possession and over doubke the shots. just one of those nights

[dark flare]

They are not 😘

[dark flare]

Fr one of those nights to concede 4 goals lol

say goodbye to pl

[echo ore]

they also missed a penalty and had a goal incorrectly disallowed lol

VAR moment

their starting keeper was out AND they didnt call this offsides somehow

[echo ore]

@rancid umbra theres no way cash is farther back

so actually just seems like a rigged game at this point

[dark flare]

Again, say goodbye to pl

[echo ore]

@rancid umbra Luton in the mud

[rancid umbra]

Luton de-mudded?

[echo ore]

Never

[silent kindle]

Idk, the tilt makes it hard to tell

[silent kindle]

See, @dark flare? Scripts are a thing. Everyone who's not copium knows it's the reason real got so many champions

[limber root]

Fixing? Yeah. Script? Nah

[dark flare]

What the VAR says is what is correct.

If the VAR makes a decision that makes people question it, it will only have relevance if it's a big team

It's cherry picking when you are a team that robs and when the var just made or not a mistake

[echo ore]

Damn he actually typed this

[dark flare]

Yes, and there is nothing wrong with it

you can cry on the ground roll on it but what the var says is what is correct

You don't have as many tools as them to speak in their stead

[echo ore]

he said it again

[dark flare]

Ill keep saying it

[echo ore]

@rancid umbra Var is always correct

I'd say the same if I only watched games from YouTube highlights and Twitter

Nevermind the fact that literally 20 decisions were wrong this season alone

26 wrong in the Scottish league

[upbeat jolt]

Diaz goal vs Tottenham or literally any Nottm Forest game

[dark flare]

As if you had the right to say that while thinking foden is over both vini and bellingham

[upbeat jolt]

I hate city but I think foden has been better than Vini this season

Which is fair considering vini has been injured this season

[echo ore]

I'm and everton fan so tell me I don't know bad VAR

Like we were the last team in the league to be awarded a pen this season...and it was 3 years since we ever had a man advantage

And we got vini Jr fan boi here saying "VAR is always correct"

[silent kindle]

Var is right in many things, but sometimes is wrong. Just look at Argentina

[dark flare]

Yeah fr, he has the same numbers with 1000+ more minutes and is eliminated from the cl because of vini jr but he has been better, ok

[upbeat jolt]

Vini was literally not part of anything against Man City, and for the record I despise man city

[radiant mauve]

Bet??

[dark flare]

Yeah, just 2(3) assists

[upbeat jolt]

I’m just saying that the only reason they made it to the Semi’s is Lunin

[dark flare]

Oh yeah the only reason

Because vini jr rodrygo and bellingham were never there

[upbeat jolt]

I mean Bellingham and Vini were absent in the Second leg

[dark flare]

that's where the 2(3) comes in

Rodrygo passed to ederson instead of shooting

so it didn't count as a vini assist

[upbeat jolt]

Because that’s how it works

[dark flare]

Doesn't change that it's technically an assist

Saying vini jr was literally not part of anything against man city is being ungrateful

[upbeat jolt]

He didn’t get the assist because he didn’t pass the ball to player that got the goal, he passed it, it hit the keeper, therefore being a different part of the play technically, meaning that Vini shouldn’t get the assist because he was didn’t assist it

[dark flare]

put 3 goals on him

[upbeat jolt]

He didn’t

But okay, I mean you believe what you want and I’ll believe what I want

[dark flare]

Im not saying it is an assist

But from a coach's perspective it is, obviously

[upbeat jolt]

No it isn’t

[dark flare]

after all the only reason it didnt count is due to poor finishing

[upbeat jolt]

Exactly, his pass didn’t result in the goal, therefore that’s not an assist, idc if the player scores the rebound but that shouldn’t be seen as an assist

[dark flare]

What? You think ancelotti didn't congratulate vini for the "assist"?

[upbeat jolt]

He can praise the pass, but not the assist because he didn’t assist

[dark flare]

Okay, take vini jr out, does rodrygo score?

[upbeat jolt]

He would probably have scored yes, because someone else would’ve fed him the ball

[dark flare]

Who? Brahim?

[upbeat jolt]

I’m just saying that your logic makes no sense because we don’t know how play would’ve unfolded if Vini wasn’t out there, therefore we don’t know if Rodrygo scores the goal or not

[dark flare]

Point is that vini jr contributed nonetheless

Telling him he did nothing just because rodrygo decided to pass to ederson is trash behavior

where was foden though?

[upbeat jolt]

Never said that but ok

[dark flare]

Both legs tbh

[dark flare]

you said he had literally no part both legs

[upbeat jolt]

Im not a fans of Foden or any Man City player

[dark flare]

Then don't rate farmers league overrated player foden up to the point you say he has been better than vini

Keep him on saka and cole palmer conversations

Vini is in mbappe bellingham conversations

[upbeat jolt]

That’s a stretch but ok

[dark flare]

A stretch yet he's the one scoring on the semifinals

While mbappe AND bellingham are nowhere to be seen

Cl player of the week and motm for a reason

He will win the ballon d'or over all three of these frauds

[upbeat jolt]

None of them are frauds, and I do think he’ll win the ballon d’or, all I said was I think Foden has had a better season than him

[dark flare]

40 goals never seen one, one half of the season only, brentford hattricking frauds

[upbeat jolt]

That sentence makes literally no sense

[limber root]

Bros got short term mental loss

[woeful wren]

arsenal fc is good

[rancid umbra]

@echo ore it's refreshing to see someone else have this argument

[rancid umbra]

Arsenal paying the refs as per

[prime ice]

I didnt watch the match so I cant agree or disagree

Arsenal must really want to win the title lol

[rancid umbra]

This was the arsenal pen https://fxtwitter.com/RichDakvng/status/1786732253353005188?t=DNWKRNxg3gmQuXGwBHFjUA&s=19

[dark flare]

Yeah, and as I had said, when it's a big or competing team they're always told to be robbing

Just accept the ref's decision, if it's really a mistake the club itself will do something about it

if they don't, then it was never a mistake

[rancid umbra]

what can the club do about it

Can't do anything after the game

[upbeat jolt]

Ask for a replay of the match

Has been done before, in the premier league

And in other leagues

[rancid umbra]

The league would never agree to it lmfao

[upbeat jolt]

The league doesn’t decide, it’s between the two teams

[rancid umbra]

Fairly sure the league would have to sanction it

[upbeat jolt]

This literally happened like several seasons ago

Yeah but I mean they would sanction it

[rancid umbra]

Plus it's Arsenal - they benefited from it. They'd never agree to it

[upbeat jolt]

It would be no different than rescheduling a match

[rancid umbra]

also, what game was replayed?

[upbeat jolt]

This was a while ago but Arsène Wenger asked for a replay purely because his team scored the winner while someone was down injured

I can’t remember the exact game but it was not that long ago

I mean he hasn’t managed Arsenal in quite a while but still

[rancid umbra]

wasn't that 1999 in the FA cup

[upbeat jolt]

That might’ve been

But there was one in the pl

[rancid umbra]

If memory serves there was also a pitch invasion in that game

[upbeat jolt]

No clue

[prime ice]

Taken down lol

[rancid umbra]

oof

[echo ore]

1999 is correct. The other ones were games replayed due to fans throwing things at players...no match has ever been replayed due to referee errors

[rancid umbra]

How's that for ball knowledge?

[echo ore]

@rancid umbra Var is just always correct you gotta accept it

@rancid umbra Burnley in the mud

Imagine sheffield win tho

These Forrest kits are horrendous

Should be illegal for so many striped kits

I also have a personal vendetta against kits that wear black shorts/socks instead of the top color...looks so amateur

Looking at you sheffield

[dark flare]

Just like every other pl team except man city

[echo ore]

False because everton are safe

[dark flare]

Tbh thank god my league doesn't have a big difference between team powers

[echo ore]

[dark flare]

I would hate it to never in my life see my team lift a trophy

[echo ore]

You don't have a team

[dark flare]

flamengo

[rancid umbra]

Thought that was a dance

[dark flare]

better than yours

better than yours too

[rancid umbra]

Probably, I don't have a dance

For the record I know that's Flamenco

A Flemengo is a pink bird

[echo ore]

Also my club has won before

[dark flare]

Flamingo?

[dark flare]

did you see it though?

i mean with pep in the pl every title except for the ucl is won from the start of the season

[rancid umbra]

Ah you right
It's a character from the British comedy show "Toast of London" starring Matt Berry that ran 2013-2015

[echo ore]

We know you don't watch games so weird question

[rancid umbra]

I've seen United lift multiple trophies

Also was in the stadium tonsee Leicester lift the Championship title

[echo ore]

I've seen everton take liverpool out of title race so pretty much the same

[rancid umbra]

Oh dang Burnley really mudded

[dark flare]

Real madrid first leg tied with cadiz

Goes to show la liga is no farmers league

[echo ore]

And yet when everton beat Liverpool it is a farmers league? Neo logic again

Just try to be consistent for once

Wait the game is still going on...

[dark flare]

Tbh I never said that

[rancid umbra]

You've absolutely said the pl is a farmer's league

[dark flare]

But losing to atalanta at home by 3-0 when you're supposed to be the top 3 of the pl is embarrassing

and yes the pl is a farmers league

[rancid umbra]

Not as much as la liga

[dark flare]

Don't see that happening for what teams win la liga ngl

[rancid umbra]

Tbf PL has been farming the ucl for the previous 3 seasons, have to let someone else win it

[dark flare]

yeah fr, have to let someone else win the europa league aswell

and the conference league

[echo ore]

Never seen someone care about the conference league before lol

[dark flare]

If so, then the pl is out of any relevant european competition

Top 4 of nothing

liverpool is going to lose strength aswell

But man united may replace them

So funny how man city and real ruined klopp's dinasty

[echo ore]

Actually crazy only 1 la liga team has made ucl finals in the last 5 years...and it's always the same one

Waiting for the non farmers league to put someone else out there

[rancid umbra]

but it's the PL that's washed

[echo ore]

And its crazy that we've had 2 all English finals in the same time period...been 10 years since that happened for la liga. Germany only done it once ever

Never been an all French final

If la liga actually was difficult it wouldn't be so easy for real to rest their players all season

Imagine having to actually have a title race and competing for 35 games

Prem should cut out the carabao cup and then tailor schedules to help them in europe

Kinda like other leagues have done

Spain and Germany removed their 2nd domestic cup

[rancid umbra]

Oi, leave United's one possible trophy alone

[echo ore]

Maybe they'd do better in Europe with less injuries

[odd kraken]

Lmao

[dark flare]

Crazy how every pl team has stayed the same every year since then

[echo ore]

No they haven't

[dark flare]

liverpool playing like they did when they won the cl fr fr

Chelsea as strong as then fr fr

Arsenal easily wins one of the worst bayerns in history fr fr

man city owns europe fr fr

[echo ore]

Not even making any sense again

[dark flare]

nah you just wont accept the pl is gone even though they didnt get the spot for the cl

[echo ore]

You're basing the entirety of your argument off the last 6 months instead of the history of the competition is very funny

[dark flare]

History of the competition = man city

[echo ore]

What

Did you actually type that?

[dark flare]

mhm

[echo ore]

[dark flare]

You say 5 years yet the only strong team from then to now is man city

[echo ore]

only strong team

Bases strength off 2 months

[dark flare]

Yes, liverpool atalanta
arsenal all talk

[echo ore]

You sound like the typical arsenal fan tbh

But for other leagues

For the first time in like literally decades the prem slightly struggles and now every league is clear...its like arsenal for the first time in decades being relevant and all of sudden their fans come out of the shadows to support them

Closet arsenal fan at heart potentially

[dark flare]

what is there to be an arsenal fan for

they're a meme team

you only become an arsenal fan if your parents were

[echo ore]

You only support la liga because you're favorite player is there

So there is similarity for sure

[dark flare]

My favorite player came from my favorite club, so...

[rancid umbra]

Only a city fan because you support Haaland

[echo ore]

His parents confirmed haaland and vini

[rancid umbra]

Man's balling

[dark flare]

City fan? Don't put me there

I am obligated to support city

[rancid umbra]

City fans support city

therefore, as you support city, you're a city fan

[echo ore]

"Obligated to support"

[dark flare]

A -> B doesn't mean B -> A

Basic maths

[rancid umbra]

This isn't maths

This is semantics

[dark flare]

It's within maths

[rancid umbra]

It really isn't

[echo ore]

And that's not even correct either as it was a=b

Therefore b=a

[dark flare]

bro doesn't know what implies means

[rancid umbra]

Bro doesn't know the difference between imply and infer

[echo ore]

Also literally said...obligated to SUPPORT CITY

[dark flare]

Bro doesn't know maths

[rancid umbra]

Bro doesn't realise that this is semantics and so maths doesn't apply

[dark flare]

I support city, I'm not a city fan

[echo ore]

What's the score of this game btw

[rancid umbra]

idk I don't watch farmer leagues

[dark flare]

2-0, bellingham stat padding as always

cant appear against big and strong teams

[rancid umbra]

But fine, in football a fan is also known as a supporter. Since you are a supporter of Manchester City, you are thusly a manchester city fan

[echo ore]

Mans literally subs in and scores 2min later..."stat padding"

Even though you tried to use the game as a idea to show la liga was strong

[rancid umbra]

Taiwo Awoniyi is an absolute unit, jesus

[echo ore]

Like he actually tried to use Cadiz tied at one point to say la liga wasn't a farmers league...to then when jude scores 2mins after coming on...is now stat padding?

[echo ore]

It's almost comical

Sad...but...comical

[dark flare]

The fact cadiz is supposed to be a weak team but still holds against madrid and creates insane chances makes la liga not a farmers league

[rancid umbra]

Just to prove my point 😄

[dark flare]

But foden hattricking teams regardless of their position means pl is a farmers league

[echo ore]

So its not stat padding?

[rancid umbra]

But if Bellingham scores against them they're bad and it's stat padding?

[dark flare]

Yes because they are still a weak team

Just not weak enough for them not to have any chance

[echo ore]

[dark flare]

like it happens in the pl

[rancid umbra]

So if Vini scores, would he be stat padding?

Or would he be goated because only HE can score such world class tap ins

[echo ore]

So...we have arrived at the following logic.

La liga isn't a farmers league because Cadiz isn't strong but also they are weak so jude scoring is stat padding

[dark flare]

He scores and assists against big and strong teams, different to bellingham

[rancid umbra]

oh so he can't do it against small teams?

[dark flare]

Where did you take that from?

[echo ore]

That's your logic

[rancid umbra]

I was asking the question

[dark flare]

Tbh tell your players to stay in europe before you argue about farmers league

The bundesliga yall said were a farmers league got the spot while you're doing all it takes to not hand over the title for man city

[echo ore]

Benzema literally went to Saudi also?

[dark flare]

benzema rn is better than every pl player

[echo ore]

So better than halaand

[dark flare]

Yes

[rancid umbra]

I mean, He scored against Barcelona three times, assisted against Leipzig and Athletic bilbao, Napoli

All fairly big teams

Single handedly won a classico

[dark flare]

The caliber of the teams you mentioned lol

[echo ore]

You use the barce hattrick for vini in every conversation

Wasn't even in La liga

[rancid umbra]

Barcelona - previous la liga winners, exccellent team
Leipzig - great team, one of the strongest in germany
Atheltic Bilbao, perennial european team, Napoli - one of the best teams in Italy and Europe

[dark flare]

Was for a title

[rancid umbra]

what title

[dark flare]

Yea fr napoli ninth place one of the best teams in italy

[dark flare]

The supercup

Im not saying barcelona is bad though

They are a strong and big team

But take them out that's it for bellingham

[rancid umbra]

Isn't the supercup just the cup winners cup

[echo ore]

Again madrid don't make it out of groups without jude

That's just a fact if we use neos logic

Would've been two losses to Napoli and 2 draws to berlin

[dark flare]

Okay, good for jude on farming the groups I guess

[echo ore]

You understand without groups there's no knockout correct?

Like...gotta do one before the other

[dark flare]

Okay, good for him

Now, where is him at the hardest moment of the season?

[rancid umbra]

Is this because vini can't hack it in the groups

[dark flare]

he scored and assisted many times throughout the groups

[echo ore]

Playing 120min and not getting subbed out and taking a pen

[dark flare]

Lol ok

like 5 other players

[echo ore]

Any of them vini?

No? Damn I guess we can say they lose if jude wasn't there

[dark flare]

no i guess not, because according to you everybody scores a penalty

[echo ore]

Just a fact without his 120min and pen they lose the shootout

Can't deny the fact

No more ucl for vini then

Should be thanking jude tbh

[dark flare]

Vini was 200% more important than jude against man city lol

Jude should be kneeling to vini

[echo ore]

Not when it matter most like you said

[rancid umbra]

Jude wasn't important at all was he? 0% importance?

[dark flare]

Oh yeah? He directly passed to three goals but I guess he ghosted when needed most

[echo ore]

Wasn't there for the shootout therefore jude more important

Just a fact that's the most important part

[dark flare]

You're taking a task 10 other players did and saying he should be praised because of it lol

[rancid umbra]

So you're saying Bellingham had zero importance?

[dark flare]

No, but that even if you consider his only appearance since the first leg of man city, vini still tops in importance

[rancid umbra]

Why consider only one appearance

Bit of a small sample size

[dark flare]

because that is the only one he has

Where was he in the first leg?

Arguing against the referee for a stupid penalty? Lol

Second leg? Doing exactly the same as other defenders yet getting a lower rating?

Wont even mention bayern just for his reputation

[echo ore]

Didn't take pen...not important

Also imagine

Why even bring him on

@rancid umbra Ipswich is back

[dark flare]

"Not important" -> Dribbles defender stops another defender from clearing the ball and passes to rodrygo's foot so that he can score and let real madrid win through penalties

and you're talking like bellingham's penalti is special

Take out vini real loses since home

Take out bellingham somebody else scores his penalti

[dark flare]

So that he can show up like he did against bayern while bellingham sticks to his dead weight performance when he plays against big and strong teams

[rancid umbra]

https://tenor.com/view/exhibition-driving-tricks-tractor-showoff-gif-16323764

[dark flare]

And when it's bellingham scoring a tap in you don't mention it

[rancid umbra]

Take out Vini someone else passes to Rodrygo

[echo ore]

Take out vini someone else runs and crosses

[dark flare]

Yeah because someone else has his numbers

[rancid umbra]

So you agree he can be replaced, excellent

Glad we've bought an end to this argument

[dark flare]

Lol you're so unnecessary to this discussion

[rancid umbra]

We all are, as the discussion itself is unnecessary

[dark flare]

Nobody had an assist other than vini, but yeah somebody else would have replaced him

[rancid umbra]

absolutely could have

[dark flare]

yeah for sure lol

[rancid umbra]

glad you agree!

[dark flare]

you just cope as he wins the ballon d'or my guy

You englishmen will stay as a meme even though you founded the sport

[rancid umbra]

Won't bother me in the slightest

Technically it was the Scots

We just don't like letting them have nice things

[dark flare]

oh but as vini technically assisted but it isn't an assist so the english still founded the sport

[rancid umbra]

eh?

That's the dumbest logic I've ever seen

[dark flare]

What? The word "technically" only works when you want it to?

[echo ore]

Baby steps

[rancid umbra]

And I was here when they got rid of loot crates

Gotta get the right reference

[rancid umbra]

No but the application you've used it in doesn't make sense

[echo ore]

Pretty sure fifa was also Uruguay

[dark flare]

Doesnt make sense mhm

Rodrygo passes to ederson then scores but vini didn't technically get an assist ok

[echo ore]

He didn't get one

[rancid umbra]

Vini doesn't get an assist, you're quite right

[dark flare]

yet, passed to the goal, therefore, same as an assist

[rancid umbra]

He passed to player, shot was saved, goal was scored

he did not pass to the goal

[dark flare]

shot wasnt saved, shot was fumbled

[rancid umbra]

The keeper made the save

[dark flare]

yes, because rodrygo fumbled

Therefore, irrelevant

Therefore, vini technically got an assist

[rancid umbra]

But, and I can't stress this enough, he didn't

[dark flare]

He didn't, but technically he did

Just like the english did, but technically they didn't

Win 4 world cups then chat to vini

Dinosaur looking country

[echo ore]

Vini has 0 world cups

[dark flare]

Btw funny how bellingham scored a tap in and then people started telling him again he deserves the ballon d'or

But vini scores twice against bayern and he doesn't deserve it

[echo ore]

That's all vini does so

[dark flare]

Vini was intelligent enough to the point all that was left for him to do with his foot was to tap in

Great play from him I guess

[echo ore]

Oh now it's intelligence to vini

Not intelligence to jude

[dark flare]

yeah, if you want to disagree with kross himself you do you

[dark flare]

Intelligence because he went forward like he had to to begin with? Lol

He didn't make an extraordinary play there, no

He didn't manage his position in a way he could score easily

He just ran forward and tapped it in

[echo ore]

Correct. At least we got another step forward

@rancid umbra Why wolves have red kits

[dark flare]

Not what happened for vini

He went back to midfield to confuse the defender and immediatelly run back knowing he is faster

He did that more than once

[rancid umbra]

Why not tbf

[rancid umbra]

Mate Kim didn't know where he was and that was nothing to do with vini

[echo ore]

Kim didn't know how to play footy that game

Rugby maybe

[dark flare]

Say that to kross

Bayern losing 3-1 to stuttgard

[rancid umbra]

Ok,

that to kroos

[dark flare]

just give the spot for real madrid already

A team like that doesn't deserve a ucl final

[rancid umbra]

Neither does a team that stat pads in a farmer's league tbh

[rancid umbra]

Considering they play in gold though that is actually a very good question

[echo ore]

Like genuinely curious who looked at wolves logo and like...I see red there

Website has literally no real reason other than...it was liked before when it was a 3rd kit

Halaand first half hattrick

[rancid umbra]

Does he take it with his right tho

for the funnies

[echo ore]

Natty hatty

When was the last natural hattrick

[rancid umbra]

Not a clue

boooooo he takes it with his left

Bit boring erling tbh, needs to grow up

Etihad certainly seems

uhm
Like a stadium

[echo ore]

@rancid umbra Are bevs allowed in england

[rancid umbra]

yes but only in plastics

[echo ore]

Couldn't remember

[rancid umbra]

and you can't have lids on bottles

[echo ore]

Yea so maybe everyone getting in line then hopefully

Did that at san siro

[rancid umbra]

yeah but even then

your teams 3-0 up in a title race

make a bit of atmosphere

Seen morgues with more atmosphere

[dark flare]

Hattrick 2 penalties

I am disappointed

If what haaland does to weak teams he did to strong teams he would be the undisputed best of the world rn

But he loves to ghost

[rancid umbra]

I agree, stat pads like Vini

[dark flare]

Nah vini scores and assists against man city and bayern and barcelona

Also creates chances that lead to goals against both these teams and other big and strong teams

Idk about bellingham though

Take out barcelona and that's it

[rancid umbra]

No one mentioned vini here

Bit stuck on him huh?

[dark flare]

ok

[dark flare]

Pl fans have no right to call another league a farmers league

[rancid umbra]

Considering we've dominated europe until recently, we do

[dark flare]

Man city only league

And you've not dominated anything

Plus you are not in the top 2, as italy and germany are there

[echo ore]

[rancid umbra]

3 English winners, two all english finals and 4 of the previous 5 finals have featured english teams
Dominance

[echo ore]

Yea but the last 2 months change what that means

[rancid umbra]

Plus the title race in the PL is closer than in la liga where I'm fairly sure there just isn't a title race?

[echo ore]

[echo ore]

14 point gap atm

[dark flare]

And where are these teams rn?

Tottenham? Missing
Chelsea? Missing
Liverpool? Missing

[rancid umbra]

Still in England, they haven't moved

Where were Real last year tbh

washed team, scared of City and got lucky

[dark flare]

You're a man united fan you can't talk about washedness

And real last year were in the semifinals

Pl living in the past

Cant accept their only team rn is man city, since last season

well tbh not even man city if you look at the top 4 of europe rn in the ucl

[rancid umbra]

Being a United fan I can and will happily argue that I'm an expert on a team being washed

City are still arguably the best team in Europe lmao

had to let the smaller teams like Real win

[dark flare]

Glazing your rival so that you can talk back against the pl farmers league allegations is crazy

[rancid umbra]

Not really glazing

[dark flare]

man city were owned in their own stadium

Scored on first and had to rely on a small mistake to score

even though of the stadium's atmosphere

Two small mistakes let them score tbh, bernardo silva's and debruyne's

[rancid umbra]

Etihad doesn't have an atmosphere

[dark flare]

yeah sure the real team will go to etihad with no pressure after losing 4-0 last season

[rancid umbra]

where did I say that lmao

[dark flare]

Therefore, atmosphere

[rancid umbra]

I'm not sure you know what you're on about

But that's ok

[echo ore]

Never has been

[rancid umbra]

Has the right spirit

[dark flare]

It's just funny that yall are eliminated from everywhere after already having had a terrible performance last season and still think you get to call other leagues a farmers league lol

what will happen next season, can you tell me?

Will liverpool's new manager keep them as one of the best in the pl? Don't think so

Will arsenal get on man city level? Don't think so

pl is gone for years to come and now for european competitions aswell

[rancid umbra]

It's football

anything can happen

[echo ore]

Will barce be worse?
Will PSG make it out of groups?
Will girona make it out of groups?

[dark flare]

Barcelona? No chance, they are signing extra good plsyers

Switch psg with leverkusen

[echo ore]

Barce can't afford players?

[dark flare]

Seems like they can

[echo ore]

Why would I switch psg?

[dark flare]

because if psg not winning then put leverkusen

You also have stuttgart which has been playing very, very well

3-1 bayern, which is what arsenal couldn't do

All top 4 of germany are great teams

All top 3 behind real aswell, except maybe girona because they will lose savinho

italy coming in strong aswell which is why they got the spot for the ucl and the pl didnt

for now the pl is all uncertainty and what you can say is that man city will stay strong but arsenal could very well fall off and liverpool are gone and there is no such thing as a fourth team of the pl

[echo ore]

How can you say one is uncertainty

Thinking there is 4 teams in any other league is laughable

[dark flare]

Not really is it?

[echo ore]

Yes really? What makes dortmund great over any of the pl teams?

[dark flare]

The fact they are in a ucl sf

[echo ore]

Yes but right now they aren't even qualifying for champions league

So

So about that uncertainty

[dark flare]

Well, leipzig are strong themselves

And i think you forgot that the ucl has 5 spots for germany now

Kimmich, xavi all going to barcelona, nico williams will maybe go there aswell

Barcelona will make a super team next season

All combined are not worth mbappe though

So you have real madrid, barcelona and atletico madrid for la liga, with atletico already having put up good results against real madrid and with the next transfer market could get even closer to them

Italy in itself is a difficult league as they have got the new spots for the ucl

Bundesliga with all 5 teams being very strong

and for the pl? for now, only arsenal and man city

With arsenal just being a team deserving of the ucl and not all that, as they lost to one of the worst bayerns of all time

[shut spoke]

Cr7=goat

[dark flare]

One thing is for sure, man city is in no way guaranteed in a ucl semifinal, so whatever liverpool or man united puts up next season, they will still be weaker than man city, and therefore unlikely to qualify to the sf, considering the other teams around europe

The europa league would fit pl just well

Btw girona just won barcelona 4-2

but they wouldnt make it out the groups huh

[golden gust]

Can I play the major cup? Or it’s not for everyone

[echo ore]

Happy kentucky derby day

What a race

Holy moly

[echo ore]

@rancid umbra Villa clinching champions league?

Villa win and tottenham loss I believe does it

[rancid umbra]

tbf

Spurs have tried their hardest to not get ucl

[copper epoch]

Villa will get UCL

[echo ore]

But spurs also do play shocking liverpool today

[copper epoch]

yeah but Spurs are Spurs

[echo ore]

Sounds spurs like to randomly beat liverpool tbf

[brittle sentinel]

Wtf

[prime ice]

Moyes needs to get sacked lol

[echo ore]

Villa moment

[rancid umbra]

Neither Villa nor spurs wants UCL

[wise sable]

Is it odd I’m American and I like watching UCL

[echo ore]

No

[echo ore]

@rancid umbra 125kg 3 times on deadlift

136 max

Currently weigh around 81

[rancid umbra]

[echo ore]

Tottenham are awful

[unkempt flare]

Yoooo

W lifts

My deadlift is 149kgs

That's max

I way 169 pounds

And as funny as that sounds it's true

[rancid umbra]

Harry Maguire's out for 3 weeks

Which was our only fit center back

[signal heart]

dm me if your amazing

[rancid umbra]

@echo ore Maguire's injured, United in the bin

[warm venture]

Balls

[lavish egret]

Fr

[cedar lagoon]

everton >

[gloomy thunder]

All of u guys

Messi or ronaldo (ww3 started)

[tame frigate]

MESSIIII

[tame frigate]

we already are

[rancid umbra]

Yeah but even moreso now

[mighty latch]

Mudryk

[dark flare]

I just found out every harry kane goal in the cl is either a penalti or a tap in

Vini Jr has better goals than him in the ucl 😂

[gloomy thunder]

The best,the most perfect dog I have ever seen in my whole life

[gloomy thunder]

Than who?

[dark flare]

Harry kane

[gloomy thunder]

Ok

[prime ice]

Can't wait to see what man united can do against crystal palace lol

Do they even have any defenders?

[rancid umbra]

@echo ore it's the end of days - Bruno Fernandes is out with an injury

[echo ore]

James tarkovski would be end of days

dude hasnt missed a game since 2020

[prime ice]

Crystal palace will probably complete their first league double over man united today lol

I can't see united winning especially with ten hag

[rancid umbra]

First time Bruno's missed a game through injury in his career - 513 games I think it was

[echo ore]

think he missed only for illness

[rancid umbra]

And suspension iirc

[prime ice]

Gonna be interesting to see how mason mount does tho lol

[rancid umbra]

I hope he has a class game

[prime ice]

What's gonna be funny is if man utd dont play European football next season and Chelsea do

That'll teach mount a good lesson

[rancid umbra]

Why

He didn't want to go lmao

Literally came up through the youth system, was instrumental in winning chelsea a champion's league and was basically forced out the club - yet chelsea fans hate him?

[echo ore]

i hate him because chelsea fans thought he was better than foden

[prime ice]

He left to play UCL

[echo ore]

[rancid umbra]

Fairly sure he was forced out the club

And I mean, he still played UCL

Or he was injured, I can't remember

[prime ice]

Played one game lol

[rancid umbra]

Never know, we could still win the FA cup (we won't)

[rancid umbra]

One more game than chelsea this season

[prime ice]

Pretty sure played against Copenhagen?

[prime ice]

Fair enough 😂

[rancid umbra]

Refcam 👀

United in the mud

[prime ice]

Lol

[rancid umbra]

Not sure what happened to Casemiro

[prime ice]

Tbh I don't think U can put 100% of the blame on ten hag

Injuries are inevitable for United as well

[rancid umbra]

None of the players have turned up and he doesn't have 3/4 of his back line

[prime ice]

The players don't have anymore passion lol

Olise to united next season tho?

[rancid umbra]

That's the rumour

[prime ice]

Do U think United will also get a new manager

If so who do U think it will be

[rancid umbra]

Who would you go for?

Tuchel's lost a lot of stock, Nagelsman wouldn't come imo

[prime ice]

Yep tuchel most likely won't join

[rancid umbra]

Bayern apparently want ETH so shows there's still something about the fella

[prime ice]

Laughing stock lol

[rancid umbra]

Kieran McKenna's been touted

Thing is right

I think he's had his preferred XI once, and has played with about 34/35 back fours across this season

[prime ice]

Oh yh

We've seen what ten hag did in his first season

[rancid umbra]

And who could have accounted for the massive drop off we've seen with players like Casemiro

And Rashford

[prime ice]

I wouldn't mind seeing him one more season at united

[rancid umbra]

I genuinely think with a good transfer window and a relatively injury free season, we'd see a massively improved United

[prime ice]

If he can get players like olise de Jong branthwaithe maybe he can at least get UCL maybe a trophy next season and if rashford finds form

[rancid umbra]

I can see Rashford going

[prime ice]

Well depends if they play with passion

[rancid umbra]

PSG have money to burn, need a LW and have zero sense

[prime ice]

This united team has just given up

[rancid umbra]

The FA cup final is going to be a mauling

But at least we've ruined Klopp's farewell season

[prime ice]

Fair enough 😂

[rancid umbra]

It's the little victories

[prime ice]

I hope sterling goes in the summer

[rancid umbra]

Where would he go tho

[prime ice]

I don't wanna see him at Chelsea lol

Maybe Saudi who knows

[rancid umbra]

That's not a foul

That's a fair challenge for the ball

Two outfield players it wouldn't even be looked wt

[prime ice]

No idea mate

[rancid umbra]

The refs haven't at least

[rancid umbra]

I genuinely think I could beat Casemiro in a foot race

[rancid umbra]

Mate this is off the ball

Hence why it's a foot race

I appreciate the faith

Under those conditions it'd be closer tbf

[inland bolt]

are Europeans crowds better than USA sports crowds?

[echo ore]

Depends on which sport and what moment

[finite hornet]

Yo

[safe sphinx]

yo

[tough wolf]

2000 drunk lads from Birmingham makes asmuch if not more noise at the stands during a football game then 40k people in the USA

Are one of the only sport I can think of the US citizens outshant Europe when it comes to the NFL

[echo ore]

Yes but have you seen 1000 drunk parents at a highschool football game

[dark flare]

England crowds are trash

So at least for one part of europe the USA crowd is better

[kindred rampart]

I do funding 💯.
Send me a direct message now let see how I can help you

[nova rapids]

?voice kick @night jungle

[inland bolt]

and its gone

[prime ice]

chelsea >>> man utd

i must say i feel sorry for man utd fans

GGMU 😂

[echo ore]

@rancid umbra what script do we get today

[rancid umbra]

Underdog

[echo ore]

so psg

[rancid umbra]

yup

[echo ore]

[rancid umbra]

Although I've decided I no longer enjoy football

[echo ore]

do i need to share the meme again

[rancid umbra]

nah we're good

[rancid umbra]

You didn't get annhialated by Palace

[dark flare]

Another mbappe stinker for now

But he will replace vini, ok

[dark flare]

Okay, it's not a matter of that if mbappe replaces vini jr

It's a matter of that if mbappe even goes to real madrid

this dude is TRASH

take him out of ballon d'or discussions asap

[junior quiver]

psg hit the woodwork 5 times LOLL

across both legs

😂😂🤣🤣

[limber root]

Silly psg

[junior quiver]

hopefully dortmund win the UCL

[limber root]

Bundesliga final would be 🤏

[junior quiver]

that would be soo good

return of german football

[limber root]

Dortmund won that game on pure defense well done to them

[junior quiver]

yesss

lol it was so funny seeing rnrique rage so much

🤣

now i only need rm to lose

[limber root]

Anything can happen tomorrow

[dark flare]

Too bad vini jr aint mbappé

you dont even have to watch the game ngl

[junior quiver]

yes i want bayern to win

but i think the best outcome would be rm making it to the final and then losing it

[dark flare]

Why do you hate rm smh

[junior quiver]

my friend always trolls me in football and he is a real madrid fan

so this would be gold

he is always like 5-2

and somany things he just insults me about liverpool and how rm is the best

[dark flare]

Is he from spain

[rancid umbra]

@echo ore I see the faves won

[zenith lava]

nah it was just because of psgs terrible finishing

[karmic ether]

BVB had ice in the veins, PSG had unfortunate bars and posts but you can't afford to burn some opportunities like they did

They also gave that one corner kick for absolutely free and it instantly bit them back

Now hopefully one of the german teams can deny Kane of yet another trophy 🙏

[rancid umbra]

It'd be lowkey funny if Kane won the UCL tho

[vivid holly]

Mate Madrid is from Spain🤣

[dark flare]

Vini Jr exists so nah

[rancid umbra]

Mbappe exists and look how far that got PSG

and vini existing didn't get Real very far last year

[echo ore]

Only existed for 1 month this year

[dark flare]

Yeah fr he existed against borussia and barcelona I think

So good mbappé worldclass cr7 regen 🔥

[dark flare]

Not even you believe that

and belligol only existed for the first half of the season

therefore useless ngl

[dark flare]

Nobody existing did 😭

[rancid umbra]

Vini existed last year I'm fairly sure

[dark flare]

well for sure, in both senses

because he was the only one to show up against man city (where was benzema?)

he also had 2 g/a against chelsea considering both legs and was motm for the first leg

Also had 4 g/a against liverpool...

honestly im just going to leave you be, otherwise this is just going to get more embarassing for you 😂

you can thank vini jr for real madrid making it to the semifinals last year

and so can you thank him for doing the same thing this year 😂

[echo ore]

people thanking lunin more

[dark flare]

mbappé was rotting against bayern while vini jr was humiliating liverpool 😭

[dark flare]

People gotta thank every single player that played any of the legs

[echo ore]

oh?

[dark flare]

But lunin first, then vini second

[echo ore]

@rancid umbra screenshot it

[dark flare]

without vini, there is no point in defending against city

without lunin, you can't even do that anyway

[echo ore]

what?

[rancid umbra]

I'm trying to work out how ANY of that was embarassing for me

[dark flare]

well you said vini did nothing for real last year to get them anywhere lol

[dark flare]

im talking about belligol

where was belligol against city?

I only saw bellingham ngl

[echo ore]

"people gotta thank every single player that played any of the legs"
"except that one guy he was useless cause it was only in the other legs and not the legs i want to matter more"

[karmic ether]

For some reason I associated my desire to see Madrid lose and Kane lose and merged the two, forgetting he's playing for Bayern

Screw them both, go BVB

[sly cove]

When I enter the game, it throws me directly from the game. What is increased?

[dark flare]

Again, where was belligol?

You're saying bellingham = belligol?

It's looking bad for belligol then

[echo ore]

no one mentioned jude but you

[dark flare]

Okay, now answer the question

[echo ore]

im just pointing out your hypocrisy

[dark flare]

Is it?

[echo ore]

yes

quite literally hypocrisy

[dark flare]

So belligol was playing?

[echo ore]

as much as vini. even more if we consider total minutes

because he took a penalty 🙂

scored it as well. so belligol remains

[dark flare]

A penalty you said before everybody scores and there's no merit in that

So I guess your argument doesn't make sense?

[echo ore]

when did i say there's no merit?

which by they way...you tried to say that about kane no?

[echo ore]

?

[dark flare]

Refreshing your mind

[rancid umbra]

The real football fans want a UCL for Marco

[echo ore]

so kane pens matter then?

[echo ore]

and you tried to take away credit from vazques

literally saying vini was more important than vazquez in that game