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rancid umbra
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That's never a foul by Kambwala

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Pure ball

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Literally nothing but the ball

echo ore
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It's the hope that kills you

drowsy seal
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congrats city

rancid umbra
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imagine not being united

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we're awful

pure goblet
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Nick - “we’ve not had a single shot in the first half”. First shot- Bruno scores

drowsy seal
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he played 4 mins in added time one game and got injured

rancid umbra
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If we've managed to ruin Liverpool's title charge then that's a small win for me

pure goblet
rancid umbra
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The title?

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None of em

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If I had to choose between the 3 it'd be City

Keep Liverpool on 19 and ruin Klopp's farewell
Arsenal fans are insufferable

drowsy seal
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arsenal are never winning

rancid umbra
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See I think that as well
But it's the what if factor

pure goblet
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That’s a big if tho

rancid umbra
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A lot can happen in 7 games

pure goblet
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True, do u think that united are able to hold the europa spot ?

drowsy seal
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ars 5% liv 10% city 85%

stray lintel
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Who do you support?

dark flare
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city

rancid umbra
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Were you the City / Madrid fan

dark flare
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yes

stray lintel
dark flare
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since haaland

stray lintel
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😭 fairs

dark flare
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And no im not a city fan

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i just want them to win

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which i think counts as supporting

stray lintel
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It kinda does

rancid umbra
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We've had this discussion before

stray lintel
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Why city doe? Oil club with 115 charges

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Brought their history like Chelsea. Nothing special about them

dark flare
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cuz haaland lol
If haaland moves to united (not happening) then i would support united

prime ice
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Did anyone else think that was a penalty in Liverpool Vs man utd?

dark flare
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The only team I fr support is Flamengo

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Which is brazilian

prime ice
stray lintel
stray lintel
dark flare
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Liverpool always trying to win the league through penalties

prime ice
dark flare
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Against city and man united lol

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No skill

prime ice
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Roman pretty much bought us success

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Before only one league title but that was better than city who had no history before they were bought out by billionaires 😂

dark flare
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Chelsea won against city in the final right

stray lintel
# prime ice Not really lol

Rival fans don't really respect their success which why I don't get why ppl support them if the people around don't respect the success

stray lintel
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FFP was introduced just to stop pay to win clubs winning everything

dark flare
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Then they faded away

stray lintel
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Money can't always guarantee success

dark flare
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Psg there to prove it lol

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THEY HAD MESSI NEYMAR AND MBAPPE AND STILL LOST THE UCL

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this is outrageous

stray lintel
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Maybe they need to spend more than city and buy everything

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Eventually they'll win it

dark flare
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Id say arsenal can win the ucl

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but the pl i think city will do it

stray lintel
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If arsenal end up in Wembley, that's basically their trophy

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@prime ice knows what I'm talking about here

prime ice
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Ange needs to play son on the left and Werner up front

stray lintel
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I enjoyed how spurs fans thought they'd challenge for the league after 3 months into the season 😭

dark flare
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Barca is destroying p$g

prime ice
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Spurs fans being delusional once again

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Tbh rn I don't care how Chelsea do much

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If we get European football that's that but if we don't I'm used to it

stray lintel
stray lintel
prime ice
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He's got pep in his back pocket 😂

stray lintel
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Yeah, but what about the rest of the league 💀

dark flare
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And at the camp nou

dark flare
prime ice
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Broo

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How on earth have Chelsea managed this

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Now I see why people call us fans delusional

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We tell everyone we will win and then we end up drawing 😭

stray lintel
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There's a reason why they are called "Billion pound bottle jobs" 🤣

dense crest
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fr

main panther
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Time to go everton @echo ore 😭

echo ore
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Why is a chelsea fan pinging me about going anywhere lol

main panther
dark flare
echo ore
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mate he literally has everton right there

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and i already know you dont have a team and just chase glory

dark flare
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Glory hunters are in average happier than those who are not

echo ore
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That's the saddest thing I've ever read lol

main panther
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….😂

dark flare
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I'm not wrong

prime ice
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U have to pretend to be happy because u don't even care about football

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No idea what's happy about thay

echo ore
main panther
dark flare
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They are all good only but because of their money and have little to no talent

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which is why the best teams there are full of south americans

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or "europeans"

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if you know what I mean

rancid umbra
rancid umbra
echo ore
rancid umbra
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tbf right, the extra two points is just taking the micky

prime ice
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Who's winning between Madrid and city at the bernabeu tomorrow

dark flare
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if they weren't there I wouldn't know there would be champions league games this week and the week that comes

rancid umbra
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The europe having little to no talent is also hilariously wrong

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Like, an unquantifiably poor take

dark flare
rancid umbra
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It's funny how wrong you are

dark flare
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i never said crying is not allowed feel free to do so

rancid umbra
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Why would I cry? You've consistently demonstrated your lack of ball knowledge and it's entertaining how bad your takes are Kek

tough wolf
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Another point deduction for Everton yet a certain treble winner isn't even charged yet 💀

rancid umbra
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Dals trying to formulate a response that won't get him banned by msq

echo ore
rancid umbra
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Yeah but he's also sniping at 'Europeans' aka the fellas that have African heritage

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So Tchouameni, Camavinga and maybe Rudiger?

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Could literally list 10-15 players between the clubs that prove him wrong Kek

echo ore
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So I'm sure it balances out

rancid umbra
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Wonder what Bellingham's heritage is

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nvm he has the most english name I've ever seen

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Jude Victor William Bellingham

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His parents Mark and Denise also seem thoroughly English

dark flare
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Me myself as a Brazilian even if I was as portuguese-looking as I can be, the portuguese would never deem me as a fraction of them

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I may have exaggerated by saying that europeans have little to no talent, but what I was trying to say is that I don't watch european football because of the clubs, rather because of the players that play there

echo ore
tough wolf
dark flare
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Europeans do have an entire time where they thought (still do) they are better than every other region

tough wolf
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Especially france and germany

dark flare
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Not all of them though, but the prejudice is there, and there is no denying

dark flare
rancid umbra
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He doesn't play for Real yet

echo ore
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And people love to play this nationality card but the second someone asks why they don't play for their "real" country it's prejudice also

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People love to have it both ways

ancient gyro
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ypp

stray lintel
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Need predictions for tmw UCL games guys,

Drop em!

agile mauve
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Arsenal 1-0 bayern
Real 2-1 man city

stray lintel
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I like what I'm reading

exotic tulip
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kdb is on fire

dark flare
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Arsenal 3-0 Bayern
Real 2-2 man city

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Comparing bayern's and arsenal's performance there is no other way this game can go

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Unless arsenal pulls an arsenal classic

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(bottling)

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2 goals for vini jr, 1 for haaland and another for kdb

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idk about goals for arsenal but saka aint getting none of them

robust lance
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Congrats UConn

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75-60

calm shadow
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City winning today up the blues

regal quest
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bayern are still good btw, they beat arsenal.

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they just got that bottlejob in them

agile mauve
exotic tulip
prime ice
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arsenal will beat bayern today

prime ice
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haaland has terrible its gonna be interesting to see how foden will do against the los blancos

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ruben amorim to liverpool done?

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well i wont believe it until i hear fabrizio romano say here we go

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im gonna be really interested to see how he does in the epl tho

dark flare
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Because he always knows where to be

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Haaland in the field equals a gamble

exotic tulip
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kdb does all the work tho

dark flare
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Don't put somebody or multiple people on him at all times? He will be behind you before you know it

Put someone or multiple people on him? Good luck dealing with the other players

dark flare
exotic tulip
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You gotta have 99 pace to keep up with him

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that's if he doesn't body you with his robot body

exotic tulip
dark flare
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Thats just false last i checked

exotic tulip
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when was the last time you saw him score a long goal

dark flare
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Kdb has 6 assists (in the pl) and not all of them are for haaland

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haaland has 19 goals and is the top scorer

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Plus haaland has only one assist less than kdb

exotic tulip
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also you a city fan?

dark flare
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no im a haaland fan

exotic tulip
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what team do you support

dark flare
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flamengo

exotic tulip
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tf

dark flare
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It's south american

exotic tulip
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ucl

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I was talking about the ucl

dark flare
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Well if I had to choose one I would pick either real or city cuz of vini and haaland

exotic tulip
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If lewadonski locks in barcelona will bag this ucl

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plus yamal is on fire

dark flare
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I hate to say it but barca is not in any way unlikely to win the ucl

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they are probably the fourth best team in the cl rn idk

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city, real, arsenal then barcelona imo

exotic tulip
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yea only time will tell

agile mauve
exotic tulip
stray lintel
regal quest
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We've already seen that.

stray lintel
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Living in the past and not accepting reality isn't a good look

dark flare
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THERE IS NO WAY

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REAL MADRID WHAT ARE YOU DOING

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Nvm

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they scored twice

icy sand
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I'm watching he gamen

agile mauve
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Guys whats happening lmfaaooo

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Its insanneee in both games

agile mauve
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Insane first half fr fr in both games

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Beauty of cl

echo ore
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Phil foden

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main panther
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main panther
echo ore
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Why would he deserve it more for winning in France lol

dark flare
# echo ore .

What foden is doing rn in the cl is not even a fraction of what haaland did in the cl last season

echo ore
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It's this season lol

dark flare
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still the case

echo ore
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No it isn't lol

dark flare
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You hate haaland dont you

main panther
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With/in France/inmadrid

echo ore
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The only other person that'd deserve it would be rodri

dark flare
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  • he's probably gonna end up as the pl and ucl topscorer all over again
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All that with less games than foden

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Even though he had many phases throughout the season when he was called "ghosting"

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He's just him accept it smh

main panther
dark flare
echo ore
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He was ghosting lol..

echo ore
dark flare
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I said ghosting with "" because I didn't know if this was the correct word to use

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  • why did you put newcastle in there lol
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  • foden has 0 goals against both arsenal and liverpool
echo ore
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is foden the striker lol

dark flare
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he still hasn't scored

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  • man city plays with everybody on the attack
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no such thing as a striker there

main panther
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Haland over best stats?

dark flare
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And as I said he was told to be ghosting multiple times across the season, which means if he hadn't ghosted which he usually doesn't he woulda had close to 50 g/a at this point, which goes to show that if haaland does win the ballon d'or it's deserved

echo ore
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Sooo you're saying he was ghosting

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As the striker

dark flare
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Did you watch the real game? Lol

echo ore
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But deserves the award more than his teammates that have more consistent and crucial to their season?

dark flare
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consistent yet unimpressive

echo ore
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What does that even mean

dark flare
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the games against stats says it all

echo ore
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Which stats? The tap in stats or the average rating

dark flare
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We are saying that a 36/35 dude was ghosting my guy

dark flare
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he is meant to stay on the box he cant leave it

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and if tap ins were that easy to hit why is nobody else doing it

echo ore
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so first him being a striker doesnt matter and now it does

dark flare
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? It's not about him being a striker

echo ore
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???

dark flare
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He IS SUPPOSED to stay on the box

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not all strikers do that

echo ore
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so youre saying hes supposed to have more goals than foden?

dark flare
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he does

echo ore
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yes because hes supposed to correct?

dark flare
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because he finds them all as city plays with everybody on the attack

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there is a reason people call him a TAp-In MerChAnT

echo ore
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so again...he supposed to have the most goals by design, and yet you use the system to say everyone is in the attack also

dark flare
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bro whatever makes you sleep at night

echo ore
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i mean you cant even accept the fact foden has had a better season...I guess we found the issue with being a glory chaser when the person you chase has been less important to their team this season

dark flare
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36/35.

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And he "ghosted".

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this is why the messi/cr7 generation must never opinion about football

echo ore
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you literally just said he's supposed to score more lol

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because he sits in the box

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your words

echo ore
dark flare
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he sits in the box not because people just pass to him all the time but because he knows how to act in the box and find the chances himself

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not that hard to understand

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  • even if he was meant to score the most that is no excuse
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just look at mbappe having better stats than haaland

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and you cant even say "OoOh he plays in fRance hAland is PL" because little to no PL teams reached the round of 16

echo ore
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and yet when foden has more man of the matches, better average rating, is more crucial to the build up phase of the attack, doesnt sit in the box all game and has 29 G/A in 36 from UCL and Prem. somehow im supposed to believe because the guy who's sole purpose is to score has 7 more is having a bettter season?

echo ore
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literally easier than italy

echo ore
dark flare
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I want vini jr to win it more however

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which himself is better than foden and any attempt to argue against will be understandably ignored

echo ore
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He has lower g/a than both in a easier league so don't even think he makes top 5

dark flare
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please do look at how many matches he has

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  • pl is not harder than la liga
echo ore
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Yes it is. La liga is literally ranked below bundesliga

dark flare
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...

echo ore
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Barely higher than italy

dark flare
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ranked below bundesliga? Barely higher than italy?

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nah im gone cya

echo ore
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I mean that's literally a fact based on multiple metrics lol

main panther
dark flare
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yeah

dark flare
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even worse, barely higher than italy?

echo ore
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I'm literally using opta lol

dark flare
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bro the fact that bayern went to win 13 times consecutively should say enough about bundesliga 😭

echo ore
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You can deny opta all you want

dark flare
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Every time I think that you really had the audacity to say foden is better than vini jr i laugh

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you just made my day better

dark flare
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Arsenal the best pl team tieing at home against a bayern that lost 3-2 to an unknown team and you still try to say pl is out of this world

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😭😭😭🤣

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3 la liga teams with girona the second best not having qualified to the cl last season all in the ucl quarter finals

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But nooooo the ALMIGHTY PL IS STILL THE BEST LEAGUE IN ZA WORLDD!!!

echo ore
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https://www.globalfootballrankings.com/
Pl first, Bundesliga 2nd, la Liga 3rd

https://www.givemesport.com/best-leagues-in-world-football-soccer-ranked/

Pl 1st, bundesliga 2nd, italy/la Liga 3rd

Sofascore only 1 with la Liga 2nd here...but still way below prem https://www.sofascore.com/football/rankings/uefa

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Top 30 leagues in the world ranked by how good they are - MLS above...

The Saudi Pro League is still only the 27th best league in the world despite all the signings 😳

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dark flare
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Didnt you say something about opta

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why did you change sources

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If the results don't seem to match with actual league teams power comparision then said results are to be questioned

echo ore
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Here is opta with essentially la liga equal to both italy and Germany.

All below england still

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dark flare
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Can you describe the difference in 2 points for me

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  • look at man city liverpool and arsenal all up there yet the rest of the teams all equaling to la liga
echo ore
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They're clearly more higher than la liga

dark flare
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Atletico should be way higher than that aswell

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They won madrid 5-3

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  • it doesnt consider current girona
echo ore
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It's literally as of March 2024 lol

dark flare
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which makes it even more doubtful

echo ore
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Who literally lost to Mallorca twice

dark flare
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how can girona not even have its name listed there

echo ore
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Because it's done virtually nothing but have a fluke good season only in LA liga

dark flare
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virtually nothing

echo ore
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Yes

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They aren't even in a European competition

dark flare
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Because they just got better

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Just like leverkusen, who will kill liverpool

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And who also is seen as worst than bayern in that opta thing even though they 3-0 them and have always been in the top lol

echo ore
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Because who is still in champions league?

dark flare
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"Still" leverkusen never had the chance to be there

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and if you want to talk about staying in the champions league

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what about the 3 teams of la liga in there against 2 teams of pl?

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the pl glazing is crazy

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take out man city the show ends

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... who also have been doing a bayern classic in these past couple of years

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😭😭🤣

echo ore
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In the last 5 champions league...3 have been won by different prem teams...in which out of the 10 teams 6 were prem...

dark flare
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talking about the past I see
crazy how you think mentioning CHELSEA (who will never leave top 10 of pl) is okay

echo ore
dark flare
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you gotta remember we are talking about foden vs vini jr, what happened in the past is irrelevant

dark flare
echo ore
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Interesting

dark flare
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Which ones

echo ore
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Chelsea, city and liverpool all won in the last 5

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Bayern and real were the other 2

dark flare
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chelsea top 10 rn, idk how talking about how strong they were matters to right now if there is no replacement for them in the cl

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not even in the round of 16

echo ore
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You literally brought up owning a league but when that league has owned Europe the last 5 years it doesn't matter lol

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And foden has been better in champions league this year also

dark flare
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Why specifically 5 years?

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if you take 1 year more it ties lol

echo ore
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Why should I go farther than 5? And if you go farther it makes la liga look even more one sided as a easy league for top clubs

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Which it is

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Because the variance of prem teams is even greater

dark flare
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we're talking about 5-6 years ago which is the dumbest thing to do ever

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the fact that chelsea can go from cl winner to a meme the next two seasons says a lot about looking at the past expecting everything to look the same

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and even if you do consider only 5 years it's not like the pl teams won consecutively

echo ore
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That's literally the point though. Because in the same time city "made the league look like bayern" there were different prem teams winning the cl.

Can you say the same about la liga?

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No cause its always the same 3 teams

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And then neither of the other 2 have done anything in chanpions league for years

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And again...foden still has better champions league numbers this year than vini

dark flare
dark flare
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There is a reason why vini jr has tied messi in assists within cl knock-outs

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  • he just got 2 assists this game lol
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and where was foden? In mendy's pocket for most of the game

echo ore
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He scored?

dark flare
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you think having scored is better than having directly led your team to score TWICE?

echo ore
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Yes lol

dark flare
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thats crazy

echo ore
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Because if you look at the madrid goals you'd notice vini did little to nothing and the scorers created the goal

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But you don't watch the games

dark flare
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without vini the game goes 3-1, with vini the game goes 3-3

Without foden the game goes 3-2, with foden the game goes 3-3

dark flare
echo ore
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That's not how that works at all

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Yea cause directly passing and then the guy dribbling two defenders to then getting a lucky deflection

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Or the other taking a full volley out of the air

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Is definitely the same

dark flare
dark flare
coral peak
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Can someone help me in the 3v3 today 😭

echo ore
echo ore
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It was going right down the middle lol

dark flare
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Buddy valverde has 2 goals across all competitions you know absolutely nothing of what you are talking about 🤣

echo ore
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Are you saying valverde literally doesn't only score volleys? That's his whole meme...

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You'd think you'd know your clubs memes

dark flare
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Especially in that situation

dark flare
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put rarely in that

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we might aswell say exotically

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the pass vini gave to valverde left him alone

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having scored an incredible goal doesn't take out the merit for the incredible assist

echo ore
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No ake being terrible left him alone

dark flare
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blame city?

echo ore
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It wasn't incredible

dark flare
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aint city the best team of the world?

echo ore
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I am blaming ake?

dark flare
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aint pl the crazy crazy best best league impossible to compare to the point you can throw laliga out laughing?

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nah im saying you should blame city

echo ore
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Why would I blame city for ake

dark flare
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ake starts regularly for city

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and they have other options

echo ore
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Actually it was akanji. And no, kyle walker is out

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Kyle walker catches the thru ball

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Also you said there's a 3 team race for la liga...how can you say that's the same race as the prem lol

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1 point separates 1st, 2nd, and 3rd

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10 points in la liga

dark flare
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Btw foden has now 7 games 8 g/a in cl while vini jr has 6 games 8 g/a

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plus foden farmed "young boys"

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have some shame

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He farmed copenhagen too tbh

echo ore
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Vini farmed Braga?

dark flare
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You could say vini farmed braga and he still would have the same g/a as foden with less games

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it is what it is bro 🤷

echo ore
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Copenhagen made it out of groups so it's not even comparable

dark flare
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...

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bro they are all terrible regardless if one terrible team is less terrible than the other lol

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copenhagen isnt even the top team in their league

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THEY ARE THIRD

echo ore
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Braga is 4th?

dark flare
echo ore
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So foden is farming knockout stage teams

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Impressive really

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And by farm...you mean he played 1 game...scored and assisted and then didn't play the next leg lol

dark flare
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No way you're rating copenhagen up because them and city were the only teams in their group 🤣

echo ore
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Copenhagen wasn't in their group

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It was rd16

dark flare
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Yeah mb I confused last season cl with last season cl

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but still you must agree otherwise you're just playing at this point that braga and copenhagen are both terrible teams and there is no merit for eliminating terrible teams

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you can have a turtle that goes 1mph and another that goes 0.5mph and they will still be terrible, -> TERRIBLE <- at running compared to two rabbits

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should one rabbit be argued to have done better than the other because of who they faced?

echo ore
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I mean one rabbit made the round of 16 and the other didnt

dark flare
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yeah you're playing at this point

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you can sleep with your delusion im not going to waste my time any further

echo ore
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I'm actually more shocked you haven't switched allegiance to Bellingham...he's been the best madrid player this season

dark flare
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best madrid player because vini jr has been injured

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took him back he hattricked barca

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plus the argument has never been about which league is best but which player is best between foden and vini jr

echo ore
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He only has 4 more games than vini for la liga and ucl

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Yea but how can vini be better than foden if he can't even be the best on his own team

dark flare
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how... does... this make any sense?

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what kind of argument is this?

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did you even think before you wrote that?

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please read what you said

echo ore
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Foden has been the best player for city. The only other one would be rodri

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You could argue Bellingham has had a better year than foden

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But again that would go back to LA liga being easier

dark flare
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which is better than the pl

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because where are the pl teams other than city in the cl

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a team that is 10+ points away from girona is in the quarter finals of the cl

echo ore
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Arsenal literally played today

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you think girona wouldnt be able to be there?

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No girona wouldn't

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Its the same reason any new club wouldn't. They don't have the players to balance two league

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Hence why newcastle was terrible

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so was man united

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pl masterclass in the group stages !!!!

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I mean newcastle Clearly had the hardest group

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And on top of that technically la liga started with more teams

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i thought bundesliga and ligue 1 were incomparable to pl

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That's the overall league?

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Like idk why you are confusing the two

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By literally no one anywhere does anyone actually believe la liga is a tougher league from top to bottom

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Than the prem

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the prem has 3 clubs bro

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La liga has 2 by that logic

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4 you mean

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4 lol

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cuz you cant count out those in the cl, rightt?

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even worst is you saying 2 while trying to say it's only barca and madrid

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when not only is this not the case in the scoreboard, this hasnt been the case the past couple of years either in regards to la liga winners

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wow

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you didnt just say that did you

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💀

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Barce and real are the only teams from Spain to ever win ucl

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True or false

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not that

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i just dont know why you keep saying girona wouldn't be in the ucl

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do you think leverkusen would be?

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No

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WOW WHAT

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thats a little too much

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They will not make it out of groups

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LEVERKUSEN?

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you are the epitome of pl glazing

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i am baffled by your ability to overrate a league that much

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to say leverkusen wouldn't make it out of groups should be a FOOTBALL CRIME

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leverkusen is probably the best team in the WORLD right now, city counted

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Anyway, I'm gonna leave with only but saying one thing:

Vini Jr has 1 game more than Foden in the UCL all-time, yet 14 more g/a, and is already between the greatest players of all-time in assists in UCL knock-out stages, which includes Benzema, Messi, and CR7, and is left only but 5 assists to tie with CR7, the owner of most assists in UCL knock-out stages of all time. He is only 23 years old yet is 23 assists away from tieing with CR7 for the most assists in the UCL as a whole all-time, which at his current pace, he will reach in no time at all (he's not even in his prime).

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Whenever Foden reaches this level of class, we can argue about them. Until then, Foden can continue hattricking the likes of Villa and Brentford while Vini Jr hattricks BARCELONA 🤣

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I mean if you can use girona as a top 4 team I'm not sure why Aston villa wouldn't be equivalent to athletico this year

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But that's your logic not mine

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Maybe because aston villa lost twice against a manchester united that couldn't qualify to the knockout-stage of the ucl from a terrible group? 🤷

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Athletico lost to cadiz...a team currently in the relegation zone of la liga

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Arsenal fans are so deluded idk how Ur saying that's a foul on saka

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They're lucky they even draw because look at the Gabriel handball

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def a handball

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and def a dive

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from top to bottom the premier league is obviously the strongest league

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Theres other league with top teams but the quality across the whole of the premier league is noticably better

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Can't blame an entire team for an individual's performance, especially when said individual conceded 5/6 goals that should have been comfortable saves and would have made the difference between qualification and being unceremoniously dumped out

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Start arguing what?

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I mean, if the goalkeeper's making howlers you can't really blame anyone else

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They still out the champions league and behind two unknown teams

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Also a United team that has been decimated by injuries

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there will always be reasons why a team lost but the team lost anyway

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That's not as insightful a comment as you think it is

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yall just love coming up with excuses it's crazy

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I'm not sure how a legitimate issues is classed as an excuse? But pop off queen

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if the 3 la liga teams do qualify to the semi-finals then please never attempt to say the pl is harder again

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There's a difference between difficulty and quality

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gosh buddy

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the pl representative is haaland

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foden

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i cant name anybody else

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Representative of what, quality?

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yes

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Just pure quality?

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yes

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Because in terms of pure quality, you've got Allison, Van Djik, Salah, Milner ( Kapp ), Odegaard, Ederson, Walker, Dias, Foden, Rodri, Haaland, Silva, Fernandes, Garner, Rice, Martinez

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A couple of those were thrown in for poops and giggles but you get the point

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Hate to say it but McAllister should be in there too

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Can't ignore a fundamental part of the team that won the world cup

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Vini Jr, Rodrygo, Bellingham, Kroos, Modric, Valverde, Militão, Courtois, Lewandowski, Lamine Yamal, Gundogan, Griezmann, De Paul

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bernardo silva and mbappe will go to la liga aswell

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I mean if we're including breakout talents, then Mainoo also has to be there

But in terms of high quality players, prem arguably has more

It's also regarded as the best league in the world not beacuse of the quality, but because of the pace of play, physicality and general competitiveness

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"general competitiveness"
winner: man city

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There's more than competition for the title

Also, how close is the prem title race this season? I just need reminding

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it was very close between arsenal and city and you know who won?

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Fairly sure the last Arsenal City match was a draw

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you know very well city is likely winning it all over again, like they did the 5 out of the last 6 years

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they didn't win 6 out of 6 but it was close if you wanna stick to that argument lol

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You haven't understood my argument and what general competitiveness means

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Also, 1 point separating the top 3 on relatively similar goal difference? That's competitive af

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similar goal difference is crazy tbh

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arsenal is all the way up there

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imo la liga is harder, and has better talents, but you can say the pl has those traits instead

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it's just that you can't go an understimate la liga and say any achievement there is worth nothing

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they told haaland "do it in the pl" what he did? turned it into a farmers league

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the other guy has been doing that

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when arguing about vini vs foden

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Even though vini is better than foden even if you consider only the cl

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Arguing that one player is better than the other based purely off of one competition is fundamentally flawed and a terrible way to argue the case

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one competition being the hardest in the entire world

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yall dont even try to make sense anymore

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and yes pls do tell me the pl is harder than the cl

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i would love that

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Never said it was, not sure where you've gotten that from.

But if you're telling me that roughly 13 games (max) of the UCL competition over a season where the players can play a minimum of 51 games of if they avoid injury is an adequate sample size then I'm going to entirely discount your arguments.

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that's a you problem

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not only is there not a big disparity between la liga and pl the cl is the hardest in the world

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vini performs better both in league and cl

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there should be nothing else to be argued about after saying that

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PL is harder than La liga

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even if you see it as harder it's not like you could say it's 75% as hard, 50% as hard or anything

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they are both hard leagues close in difficulty to be obvious

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Bro i dont even know why im still arguing vini vs foden

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this is literally such a stupid ahh thing to argue about

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I haven't argued about the players once SmileDoggo

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who do you think is better

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Haven't really thought about it, don't particularly care, both are class

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"both are class" you are unintentionally putting vini jr and foden on the same plate

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never compare them

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They are on the same plate, that wasn't unintentional

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then imma have to stop you right there

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top 10 forever

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top 10 what

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Vini has less G/As then Foden this season, and Foden plays in the harder league shrug

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im talking about chelsea

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and please don't start it

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i don't even care what you have to say

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this channel is comical nowadays

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Broski just gave me whiplash, where did Chelsea come into this??

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put it like this

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within the last 3 cl vini jr is on top in g/a

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how close is foden?

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idk, I don't care enough about this enough to look at the stats

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not even a little bit close

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yet same age

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all I know is Foden has more this season

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does he huh?

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Foden has 8, vini has 7

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Will you please compare g/a across all competitions and games played between them?

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You're right, that makes a huuuuuge difference

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a huuuge difference, because as we can see, vini managed to assist twice in a single match

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😊

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You're right, give the man the Ballon D'Or now Kapp

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did it hurt you?

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mb

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That's my bad, sarcasm doesn't translate well in text

please note the Kapp , it means I'm being sarcastic

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I know

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now, did it hurt you?

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what, Vini assisting twice in one match? nah

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I'm only here because I'm bored bud, not one jot of your arguments have made much logical sense, and you bounce from all competitions to UCL only when it suits you

Pick a lane 🥱

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Vini 33 g/a across 26 games
Foden 29 g/a across 37 games

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sum up the argument lads

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GIVE FODEN THE BALLON D'OR!!!!!

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i wanna hear it

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At the same time he decimates foden in cl records which foden has none

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He plays in an easier league mate

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so you're telling me he plays against kids?

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if the argument is whos better between Foden and vini then its pretty obvious

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Where did I say he plays against kids?

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Just to be clear, I haven't made the argument that either player is better, haven't said that at all. I said they were at the same level

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because for you to downgrade la liga to the extent you can reconsider his stats then that must be the level of la liga in your eyes

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FODEN CLEARbigbraintime

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La Liga imo is an easier league to play in

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Yo I just noticed that was an ampharos pfp, man has taste 🤝

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Sure, say it is easier
Is it easier to the point you can take vini stats as irrelevant, even though what he does in la liga he does in the cl?

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I feel like you'd like the gif I have on my profile sir

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honestly compare rodrygo to foden then move on to vini jr if you do find out foden is better than rodrygo

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furret on top

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there are levels to this

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Why are you so against saying that Foden and Vini are on the same level

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because they are not lol

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They absolutely are

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based on what

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Current stats, the eye test, the league they play in

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current stats vini still tops

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not in the UCL Kek

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he does top ucl lol

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1 game less and you know his ratio buddy

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They have one UCL title each, I'd say that's the only stat they care about

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vini jr gave himself his ucl, foden did nothing in the final and relied on rodri

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nah vini is better than foden, but its not a sizeable gap

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if you really want to say foden having a ucl is relevant then you are delusional

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but Rodrygo is nowhere near the conversation,

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he played out of his position for most of the season and still has 24 g/a though

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we don't know how good rodrygo really is

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hes good but phil foden is a bit better

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yup

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benzema wasnt able to score the tap in

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Phil Foden is world class, it's that simple. And that's coming from a United fan

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Better than Vini? Maybe, maybe not

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You trying to downgrade his goal and the only goal for real madrid because it was a tap in that he himself found because valverde literally shot the ball is just pathetic

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i disagree

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Where did I say a tap in isn't a good goal

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buddy?

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what other point is there in mentioning it in being a tap in

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I'm not your buddy, pal Kek

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thank god

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What's wrong with describing the goal

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well, if there is nothing wrong with it, then my point stands

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If I had a striker that scored 50 tap ins a year I'd be pretty pleased

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vini gave himself the cl while foden was carried

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🤷

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But to say he gave himself the trophy is a hilariously poor take

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hilariously poor take?

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Haaland hasn't scored as many this season he prolly ain't

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nothing has indicated that to me, eye test, per 90 stats

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did he not score the only goal for madrid that wasnt even started from an actual pass?

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a goal he himself found?

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You're right, because the shot magically came from thin air, no player to hit it

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I'm not going to complain Kek

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even by stats, foden consistently outperforms rodrygo in a tougher league

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Agreed

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not a hard thing to see

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the teams from top to bottom on average are of higher quality than other league

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even if you say pl is a harder league it aint harder enough for you to use that as an argument

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good thing the stats are based per 90?

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if there was a big disparity and if the leagues were incomparable then instead of 3 la liga teams in the ucl quarter finals it should have been 3 pl teams in the ucl quarter finals

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which shows a pretty fair comparison considering both of them have thousands played this season

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the lower down teams have depth and talent like no other league has

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Plus you're trying to argue on the basis of a knockout tournament - over 180 minutes anything can happen in football, and that's why we love it so much

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pl is not harder than cl bro

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and plus United were one of the teams in the UCL - even we're not sure how we got there

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are you reading right

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it should be accepted for arguing who is the better player by using the cl

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you cant just turn a blind eye when it doesnt favour your argument

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do you know what haaland did last year?

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pretty aware yeah

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exactly

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almighty pl difficulty that changed haaland's g/a ratio in nothing

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but thats just goals, there's broader stats than goals and assists which tell you a players performance

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THATS JUST GOALS

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# dark flare .

This doesn't prove anything?? Literally me saying it's a knockout tournament

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AYYYYYY

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im out

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Because you've finally realised you don't have a leg to stand on?

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because yall love to choose what makes sense to you

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deny that cl is the hardest competition in the world

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then, vini is better

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ty

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lol

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for now bro lol

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and foden farmed copenhagen and that other team there i dont even remember the name

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knows the future

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but I mean World Cup is harder

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World's strongest man is probably harder than the UCL

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this isnt even relevant to the league argument

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i hate the idea that yall even fathom arguing about who is better

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You started the entire argument

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dont even try argue that la liga is better than the prem in terms of team strenth on avg

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in a worse league that is not worse enough to disconsider his achievements in said league

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thats so dumb

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haaland played in BUNDESLIGA went to pl farmed it

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so it seems that "he wouldnt do it in pl" doesnt necessarily make sense

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Di Maria farmed the BBVA and then flopped in the prem

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pretty simple

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Same with James Rodrigues, Alvaro Negredo, Soldado

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go watch a mid-table la liga and prem game and tell me its the same quality of football

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its not

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the teams on avg are worse

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theres so many things that play into it

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and a player that has tied players like messi and is close to surpassing players like cr7 in the hardest competition of the world and is on top in said competition than mbappe haaland etc would definitely do the same he does in pl

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The problem with the argument you're making though, is Haaland was a monster in the Bundesliga, and went into a dominant city side that was then built to get him to score goals

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It's not like he was 20g/a per season and then came in lighting the prem up

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even if he played the same or better. You cant do it on a case by case basis

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"very good" HE CAN BE ARGUED TO BE THE BEST IN THE WORLD

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Can he?

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Has he done it on a cold, rainy night in Stoke?

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tell mbappe haaland to surpass vini g/a in the last 3 cl

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cant even compliment him without getting yelled at

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nope

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dont do that

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Bellingham's probably better than Vini Jr atm

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neos in the nicest way possible you are mental

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yeah dont worry i will eventually jump

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dubskiiii

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but the point is that you can argue vini vs mbappe in lots of different and relevant ways

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yet FODEN VS VINI? yeah alright

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nah actually scotland is a bit dead

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nvmd

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In terms of football Scotland's dead, prefer everything else tho

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I think that just tipped him over the edge

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lmao

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man like vini jr i guess

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He supports Real because of Vini and City because of Haaland

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ffs

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that is brutal

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33 less minutes yet same g/a as foden in cl

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idk where yall took foden is doing better in the cl

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Did you really go and work that out

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probably

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take foden's copenhagen and red star farming and vini's braga farming out

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see what happens

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"Take out games I've cherry picked to prove my point"

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why, thought certain leagues didnt have worse teams?

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proving the point mate

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see what happens

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young boys is a farm aswell

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I wouldn't say it like that

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OH WOULD YOU NOT REALLY

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sheesh

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totally how football works

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when sheriff beat real madrid a few years ago that game shouldn't have even happened cause its a farm

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10x worse, to be detailed

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Just like you diminish vini jr achievements in la liga because it's la liga and it's worst than the pl (for you), I am diminishing foden achievements in the cl because 50% of his stats are against teams that do not even compare in any way or aspect whatsoever with city

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I wonder why city won against copenhagen twice with the same score of 3-1

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So Vini hasn't got goals against teams like that?

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if you literally remove 50% of fodens games then yeah obviously vinis stats would be better

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it's justifiable because of the teams we're taking out

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no its not

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why are we taking teams out though

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you know how many goals and asists vini would farm against union berlin? smh

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If Vini can't score against the bad teams then that's more problematic for him

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It's not that he can't score, he didn't play them

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what a dumb line of argument

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He's played celtic and Shaktar multiple times, club brugge, Braga - that's at least 7 of his UCL goals

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we dont even need to go that way either

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vini is doing better than foden in the cl bro

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How has more goals and assists this season

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in the UCL

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same amount

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vini less minutes

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foden has 2 more goals

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g/a bro

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Foden has 8 G/A, Vini has 7

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33 less minutes you said

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just checked

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where did you take vini has 7 from lol

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5 + 3 is 8

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unless google hasn't updated it, it's telling me 3+4

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Foden has 5+3

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Im using transfermakrt

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why am i still arguing about this

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vini vs foden, outrageous

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it's a vini haaland and mbappe world

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let foden enter the discussion if he so deserves

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lmfao yeah sure im wrong

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Glad you admitted it!

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because it is foden that reigns this era of ucl

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i forgot mbmb

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his hattrick against aston villa was so nice

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Vini's UCL stats from the UCL website btw

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and Foden's

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so transfermarkt is wrong

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but i aint arguing no more

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foden is better, if that's what will make you sleep at night

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I never said one was better than the other

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I just enjoy arguing

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so foden would deserve the ballon more

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Vini better tho because he scored the only goal in the final two years ago

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Idec they're both world class

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Not a patch on James Garner but still

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i think foden is more impressive to watch

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first touch and hes always in the middle of the park doing it

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Foden is the heartbeat of that city team atm

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hes the only one who consistently picks up the ball and goes forward

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because his touch is filthy lol

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Almost as good as mainoo

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or garner

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Barca goated

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Barca getting bullied

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They really were getting bullied that first 15 of the second half Kek

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yo by any chance @dark flare do you play on xbox?

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mbappe couldn't keep up with raphina

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Mbappe was pooooor yesterday

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he didn't do anything

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he missed 2 major chances

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nah he gon mess up real madrid when they sign him

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Imo there is no reason for mbappe having been cancelled by barcelona

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Vini Jr usually breaks through them easily and Mbappe is supposed to be better than him

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Maybe Mbappe will score twice next leg

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@spare yacht happy masters day/weekend

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no one here likes the nhl?

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i also just won $1800 in my office march madness bracket pool so it's been a hell of a sports week

prime ice
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Zuccarello

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who can play with me

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THIS IS AN ABSOLUTE DISGRACE

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Has anyone seen the new rule to he introduced?

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??

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Man city will almost get away with their PFA charges now

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I don't know how to explain

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Actually I'm lying I'm too lazy to explain it

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Watch that

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England with southgate Ur having a laugh
France not at the best rn
Portugal will keep using Ronaldo while the other positions are all pretty class they need to play Ramos or even Felix
Spain are really hot rn I can see them winning it
Germany is really good nagelsmann is doing wonders
Only Italy can be considered to win it outside of these options they might have a peak and then be at their worst again

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Why are liveroool losing 2-0 rn

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You mean 3-0

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AT HOME

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against ATALANTA

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average non-mancity pl performance

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btw idk why some arsenal fans underestimate leverkusen

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they had the chance to beat bayern at home and tied 2-2

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west ham parked the bus and still conceded 2..

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while leverkusen 3-0 bayern at home

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they've just been playing 6 at the back the whole game

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they have 1 shot only

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wow this is looking like man city vs real madrid second leg last year lol

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73% possession 💀

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they toying with west ham

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fr

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it would be like 4-0 if fabianski wasn't peaking

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well tbh a sane human being would know leverkusen would go past west ham unless they are a west ham fan

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yeah

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some west ham fan told me on twitter that they'd win the first leg 3-0

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lol

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just another two wins for leverkusen unbeated run

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i wonder who they'll vs in the final now

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the other games in the europa league have been kinda tight

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tbh idk but the way I see it liverpool was the only team to have a chance against them

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i cant count out liverpool from doing 4 goals next leg but

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if they couldnt score a goal with most of their main squad and at home

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i very much doubt it

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yeah

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4 goals away would just be crazy

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Such a terrible year for the exit of klopp for now

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anyone has the best binds of controller pls help i need them
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help

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David Moyes is not the right man to lead west ham anymore

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His style of play is too risky

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who?

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Moyes

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He's gotten European glory but this wes ham squad can do better than conference league

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damn

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Liverpool lost to Barca 3-0 only to win 4-0 in the next leg

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Maybe they will beat Atalanta 4-0 next leg lol

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the difference being when they won 4-0 it was at anfield

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but they lost 3-0 at anfield lol

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that be crazy if so

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yous know england always loses to the germans

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like germans lose to italians

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and like how yous know portugal always loses to everyone

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@spare yacht bryson hitting a 5 iron like 260 LOL

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dude someone was telling me he's playing with 3d printed irons??

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insane dude

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guy's an animal haha

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put them in the bag and shoots a 65 day 1 lol

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it's honestly super impressive

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tiger is scrambling like crazy today. keeping him alive

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i got my master's polo on today in the office...we have all the TVs tuned to it lol

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yea my side monitor is always on it

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theegala casually hitting driver off the deck lol

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if tiger can go -1 on 10,11,12 he definitely making the cut

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I'll be happy to just see him making cuts and playing full rounds of golf

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i think like 58 players are +2

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bryson and max are just wild

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55 players at +3 now lol

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the course is a menace

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Is it just me or if real madrid does win the champions league (which is necessary for the ballon d'or at this point), vini jr would be more likely to win the ballon d'or than bellingham?

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After all vini jr has 500 less minutes than bellingham yet similar g/a

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and he has also been class in the cl, just like belingham

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what separes them both throughout all competitions is exactly 2 goals and no assists

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The course is def tough. Like it's playable for sure but it's veeeery unforgiving

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but yeah the individual stats of how many goals and assists are what matters if u take minutes into consideration

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psg is the best soccer team

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its so dang sad that mbappe is getting sold to real mandrid..... i wish he stayed att psg\

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@spare yacht Bryson just hit the longest drive ever hit in the masters...395 yards

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y'all dudek is mad