sports-discussion

[unkempt moat]

I see

[digital jungle]

Messi be better simply 🤷🏼‍♂️

[rancid umbra]

Ronaldo might be the best in the world, but that's because Messi's from another planet

[echo ore]

heres a crazy stat

430

i watched a video and realized...if jordi alba wasnt shit messi would have like 30 more assists

[digital jungle]

Oh nah

[echo ore]

https://youtu.be/ubC6VMs3ytI

watch how many jordi bottles

its at least 10

[rancid umbra]

Also can't forget when Messi scored 93 goals in a calendar year

not even counting assists, just scoring them

[unkempt moat]

A reason I like Ronaldo (young Ronaldo at least) is due to his complex dribbles
I know that Messi dirbbles way better but he keeps them basic if y'all know wha I mean but young Ronaldo used those complex skills which made me like him

[echo ore]

but neymar does that better

Santos Neymar was a god damn savage

[unkempt moat]

But Ronaldo would be better than Neymar in every other stat now (still talking about young Ronaldo)

[digital jungle]

That is a very effective pass ngl

[echo ore]

itd be more effective if jordi wasnt there

[digital jungle]

Or if he knew how to finish Lmfaoo

[rancid umbra]

I wonder how many assists Messi has for Alba

Like even he could have scored a couple

[vocal galleon]

it is because messi does not know how to make a bicycle or a ronaldinho elastic

[echo ore]

what

[rancid umbra]

not sure what making a bicycle has to do with football

[unkempt moat]

Messi still dribbles whole teams man 😭

[echo ore]

https://youtube.com/shorts/50njM_ZlwNE?feature=share

literally the same goal ronaldinho scored

[unkempt moat]

Every player has their strengths and weaknesses

[rancid umbra]

Wouldn't even call those weaknesses

[unkempt moat]

Messi still has weaknesses

E.g. headers

[rancid umbra]

Never said he didn't

[vocal galleon]

I don't know, the translator doesn't know what a bicycle is in football

[unkempt moat]

For that he masters other stuff

Like dribbling

[rancid umbra]

But he's scored important headers

Was it vs. United in the UCL final in 2009 he scored a winning header?

[unkempt moat]

You know what, weaknesses mightve been the wrong word

[rancid umbra]

It was one of the two finals Barca beat us in -_-

[echo ore]

https://youtube.com/shorts/4if7Ks2Qfmo?feature=share

[rancid umbra]

Yes, thank you Kyle.

[echo ore]

youre welcome

those barce kits were classic

[rancid umbra]

John O'Shea pure raging in the background

[echo ore]

messi winning header over ronaldo https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=exrieZeTIO0&ab_channel=Priyanshu.Dubey

[rancid umbra]

Wins the header and then plays his signature pass

[vocal galleon]

Who has the highest jump in all of football?

[echo ore]

who won that header

[rancid umbra]

Me

6 foot vertical leap me

[unkempt moat]

Wow

Never knew Messi was that good even in headers

[echo ore]

and i guarantee no one has measured this jump because this is the highest by far https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=4h7fRBfVlwE&ab_channel=VancouverWhitecapsFC

[vocal galleon]

messi does not have half the power of cristiano in his legs

[echo ore]

then why does he have more goals outside the box

[rancid umbra]

and yet, he's better

Vince McMahon is probably stronger in the legs than Mo Farah, doesn't mean he'll beat him in a marathon

[digital jungle]

Imagine getting shit on by the smallest guy on the pitch

[vocal galleon]

It has nothing to do, one thing is power another placement

[rancid umbra]

McMahon still fuckin ripped, btw

[echo ore]

then whats the point

[vocal galleon]

cristiano the goals he has from free kicks are from further away than those of messi

that's why he jumps higher
because he has more power in his legs

[echo ore]

messi has more free kick goals

[rancid umbra]

Just admit you don't know ball and let's move on

[vocal galleon]

from what distance

[echo ore]

all the distances

[vocal galleon]

Cristiano has more power, it's easy

[echo ore]

is that supposed to help with something?

traore has more power

[unkempt moat]

Bro pipe Messi beats Ronaldo in most stats

Its clear Messi is better

[vocal galleon]

you are saying that it has more power when it does not have it

[rancid umbra]

And how many WCs has that power won Ronaldo?

[echo ore]

or outside box goals

[rancid umbra]

I think it's 0

Could be wrong

[vocal galleon]

I'm not saying that Cristiano is better, just that Messi is not the best at everything

[echo ore]

except of things that actually matter

like...scoring and passing

[unkempt moat]

I already admitted to that

But sorry for not understanding ur point correctly then

[rancid umbra]

Let's be honest

The game is at its most beautiful with Messi
THAT'S the important thing

[harsh crypt]

Iwobi is the greatest player of our generation

W or L?

[echo ore]

accurate

[dark flare]

Realistically if city have all the oil money in the world why haven’t we bothered to sign ronaldo

[echo ore]

ill allow it

[rancid umbra]

Y'all sleeping on Scott McTominay

[unkempt moat]

Not everything is about money

They dont want ronaldo

Simple as that

[dark flare]

It’s because ronaldo is shit

[harsh crypt]

The Scottish essien 🥶

[echo ore]

friendly reminder City signed Alvarez and Haaland last window

[unkempt moat]

Is old*

[vocal galleon]

Manchester City is a club that has no history, only money, why would anyone go there?

[unkempt moat]

Don't be toxic now

[dark flare]

History doesn’t win titles

Skill does

[unkempt moat]

Calling Ronaldo shit is smth else now, he aint shit, he just got old

[dark flare]

He hadn’t recognised that he’s too old to play

[echo ore]

well hes shit cause he became a cry baby

[dark flare]

So we’re holding him to the standards we hold younger players to

[vocal galleon]

and the city the champions

[rancid umbra]

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=entArlJrzZM

[dark flare]

He was always a crybaby

[echo ore]

no one would care if he quietly retired to the MLS

[rancid umbra]

tbf, the lad's scored some class goals

[unkempt moat]

He doesnt admit shit man, its obvious he got old now

[echo ore]

okay but paul scholes

[dark flare]

History doesn’t win titles

[harsh crypt]

He’s still shit

[unkempt moat]

Legit how tf can u call Ronaldo shit 😭

Sure he is toxic

[echo ore]

because he whined to piers

[vocal galleon]

The only one who plays well at 37 is Luka Modric

[unkempt moat]

But he aint shit in terms of skills

[rancid umbra]

?

[harsh crypt]

Penaldo

[dark flare]

He was a pussy back in 2016 it was complete bollocks that Portugal got to the finals he was diving

[rancid umbra]

I'm just giving McTominay the hype he deserves

[dark flare]

He always was overrated

[unkempt moat]

Dont all players dive?

[dark flare]

No

[echo ore]

fun fact that you might not have known...Mbappe has never scored a free kick

[harsh crypt]

Wow

[dark flare]

He’s a complete pussy of a player and he needs to grow up

[dark flare]

Nor have you

[unkempt moat]

U r talking about his behavior, im talking about football skills
As a person, he may not be the best, i know that

[echo ore]

i have

[dark flare]

His behaviour on the football pitch is half of what makes him bad

His attitude when he went to Man U was so shit no wonder he didn’t get picked

Even haaland wouldn’t get picked acting like that

[echo ore]

haaland is such a good dude

[unkempt moat]

Yes i know he was toxic god damn it

[rancid umbra]

I mean he plays in goal so I'd expect he hasn't

[unkempt moat]

Already admitted that dude

[vocal galleon]

messi has never scored a hat trick in a final of a world cup

[echo ore]

i scored in 10th grade

[dark flare]

Nor have you

[rancid umbra]

That's right, I know my Kdals lore

[echo ore]

[dark flare]

And mbappe scored in the World Cup

[echo ore]

mbappe doesnt have a ballon

[dark flare]

And you don’t play for psg

[echo ore]

still doesnt change the fact hes never scored a freekick

[rancid umbra]

Don't think he cares that he doesn't play PSG

[vocal galleon]

he has not stolen any title either
🥶

[echo ore]

mans getting bent over mbappe not scoring a freekick

[unkempt moat]

Mbappe will win a ballon soon tho

Tbf

[rancid umbra]

Nah

[echo ore]

nope

[rancid umbra]

Haaland will edge those

Man's a monster in a better league

He'll probably win City the UCL

[echo ore]

when messi and neymar get older mbappe wont have anyone to stat pad

[unkempt moat]

Yall cant think Haaland is winning every ballon coming, Mbappe will win at least one 😭

Haaland while surely win some

But not all upcoming ones cmon

[echo ore]

dont think so. his only hope is joining real

[vocal galleon]

haaland is not half as skilled as mbappe with the ball

[unkempt moat]

Pipe Haaland is skilled

[rancid umbra]

You'll also have the likes of Fati, Vinicius, Camavinga, etc competing for the ballon

[rancid umbra]

and yet, he scores just as many, if not MORE goals

[unkempt moat]

Im sure Mbappe is still winning at LEAST one

[echo ore]

he can only steal them

[unkempt moat]

Cmon how could u hate on Mbappe that much?

[echo ore]

whos hating

[unkempt moat]

Legit everyone

[rancid umbra]

Why would we hate on Donatello?

[vocal galleon]

The only players who will win the Ballon d'Or in the next decade are going to be Mbappe, Haaland and Vinicius

[unkempt moat]

Man

[rancid umbra]

wrong

[unkempt moat]

They arent the only 3 players

[rancid umbra]

Garnnacho's going to win it all

Can't spell his name thoug

[echo ore]

jude can get there maybe if england fire their manager

[vocal galleon]

tell me one that is better

[rancid umbra]

How did I forget about Bellingham

[vocal galleon]

tell me one that is better

[rancid umbra]

Kid's a monster

[echo ore]

Musiala as well

[rancid umbra]

In 10 years you'll have Endrick ruining defences

[echo ore]

shit neymar is still able

[unkempt moat]

It isnt about "better", it is about overall performance in a year/season

[rancid umbra]

Is it £72m Real have agreed for him?

[vocal galleon]

he has no chance to surpass mbappe or haaland in goals in any season

[echo ore]

its not about goals only

[dark flare]

you can’t win without goals

[echo ore]

so modric winning

[tribal heron]

2 Mcrappe goals were penalties so isn't that surprising

[vocal galleon]

If Musiala has a chance of winning the Ballon d'Or, even Gavi would have them because according to France Football he is better than Musiala.

[unkempt moat]

Mf expecting defenders and goalkeepers to score 💀

[dark flare]

Still if you don’t score you can’t win

[echo ore]

modric won

[dark flare]

You can still win if you concede but you can’t win if you don’t score

[unkempt moat]

Ballon dor is for all positions

[vocal galleon]

messi scored 4 penalty goals and no one is telling him anything

[unkempt moat]

Not just strikers

[rancid umbra]

Gavi and Pedri too, they're unreal

[unkempt moat]

Or generally goalscorers

[echo ore]

de bruyne got 3rd last year and he doesnt score much

[vocal galleon]

they play in europa league

[echo ore]

so does ronaldo

[rancid umbra]

Ronaldo doesn't anymore

[echo ore]

true

[rancid umbra]

Not good enough to play in any league atm

[echo ore]

saudi got him

[unkempt moat]

In which club was Ronaldo again?

[rancid umbra]

Is that done and dusted?

[tribal heron]

But he carried the entire team while Mcrappe has a very OP team .

[echo ore]

nah

[vocal galleon]

For this reason, they compete at the level of Cristiano Ronaldo, who according to you should go to the MLS

[echo ore]

he should

[rancid umbra]

He won't, but he should

[unkempt moat]

Man Mbappe aint crap 😭😭 (skillwise, behavior is another story)

[dark flare]

France shouldn’t have won against England

There definitely should’ve been a rematch at least

And the ref should be sacked

[rancid umbra]

nah

[echo ore]

tell kane to make his pens

[vocal galleon]

Di maria *

[rancid umbra]

Kane scores his pens we beat France

Refereeing was abysmal though

[vocal galleon]

why

[dark flare]

We still would’ve won if the referee made the right decisions

[echo ore]

or if kane scores

[rancid umbra]

but he didn't, and we didn't

[dark flare]

The referee was part French

[echo ore]

from 12 away

[unkempt moat]

Weren't most refs in the wc shit?

[dark flare]

It’s corruption idk what they expected having the World Cup in Qatar

[echo ore]

and lets turn it up a bit...couldnt score a pen against lloris

[unkempt moat]

In the knockout stage at least

[rancid umbra]

Even I could score a pen against Lloris

[tribal heron]

Di maria didn't played the whole match and wasn't playing a main role in the wc wtf

[rancid umbra]

Just hit it straight down the middle, keepers always go

[vocal galleon]

If they were able to score di Maria's penalty in the final, how are they going to be bad?

[rancid umbra]

Unless you have stones the size of Emi Martinez, where they're the size of fuckin Jupiter

[unkempt moat]

Wdym?

[vocal galleon]

The two goals that Argentina scored were 100% from Di Maria

[echo ore]

acting like the team didnt 1 touch pass the whole french team

from mid field

is funny

[tribal heron]

fr

[vocal galleon]

anyway, mbappe > messi

[rancid umbra]

BAHAHAHAHAHA

[unkempt moat]

BRO WHAT

I know Mbappe is good but WHAT

[vocal galleon]

currently

[rancid umbra]

and that, my friens, is proof that Pipe doesn't know ball

[echo ore]

never did

[unkempt moat]

Messi still dribbles whole ass teams and does great passes

[tribal heron]

? Mcrappe is overrated tbh

[tribal heron]

fr

[unkempt moat]

Also Mbappe is a whole decade younger than messi

Wtf is this comparison

[echo ore]

messi already had ballons at that age tho

[vocal galleon]

the only overrated at present is ansu fati

[rancid umbra]

Could Mbappe be better by the time he retires?
maybe, but I doubt it

Time to play Beaver game

[vocal galleon]

and fewer goals

[unkempt moat]

He is very good u gotta admit
As a person no but skillwise he is decent

Mf is so fast

[echo ore]

id take fewer goals over fewer ballons

[tribal heron]

I admit that he's better than 80-90% players but saying that he is better than messi is just different

[unkempt moat]

He aint better than Messi thats DEFINITELY

[vocal galleon]

Ballon d'Ors are won with votes, not goals.

[echo ore]

[unkempt moat]

Hardly anybody says that just trolls and Mbappe stans

[unkempt moat]

And why do people vote them?

[tribal heron]

Based on the overall perfomance of the player and how ppl react to that

[vocal galleon]

He wasn't even in the top 30 for the Ballon d'Or and he's supposed to be better than Mbappe.

[vocal galleon]

They are the votes of journalists, not soccer experts.

[echo ore]

alright messi had 47 goals that season...while mbappe has never cleared 40

[unkempt moat]

Also doesnt Messi have more assists?

[echo ore]

always does

47 goals and 23 assists that year

at 23

[vocal galleon]

he is 12 years younger

[echo ore]

im talking at the age of 23

so

messi was better at 23

[vocal galleon]

messi did not have a world cup at 23

[echo ore]

and mbappe didnt have a bballon

[unkempt moat]

Mbappe has top tier teammates

[echo ore]

or 40+ goal season

[unkempt moat]

The whole french team is good it isnt a personal achievment

[echo ore]

hes never cleared 20 assist either

[vocal galleon]

messi had two of the best midfielders in history at that age and mbappe has verratti

[unkempt moat]

Benzema

Giroud

Kante

Griezman

Mbappe has such a good team

He didnt carry the team last year

[vocal galleon]

He plays with them all year or only when he plays for the national team

[unkempt moat]

Last wc*

Mb

[echo ore]

mbappe has neymar and messi right now

at the age of 23

[unkempt moat]

I was talking about national team

[echo ore]

he was talking club

[unkempt moat]

About last world cup

Ah mb

[vocal galleon]

neymar is not better than xavi

[echo ore]

is messi?

[unkempt moat]

Im convinced that Pipe is either a troll or an attention seeker

[vocal galleon]

messi is 35 years old

[echo ore]

and still contributes more goals

so pick one

[vocal galleon]

xavi was at the peak of his career when he played with messi

[unkempt moat]

Man when will my main account be unbanned 😭

[vocal galleon]

messi's teammates were part of the best team in history psg doesn't come close

[echo ore]

xavi at 31 is peak?

[digital jungle]

Pipe can’t decide I think that’s the problem

[unkempt moat]

At this point i dont even understand his point

[echo ore]

so messi at 35 is worse than 31 xavi i guess

and neymar at 30 is also

[rancid umbra]

Y'all arguing over who the GOATs are and haven't even considered Bebe

[echo ore]

r9 you right

[vocal galleon]

xavi was 29 how much did they win the sextet

and yes is better

[echo ore]

he was 31 in 2010

and no hes not

[rancid umbra]

United's back on tonight and I can't fuckin wait

McSauce boutta boss that Burnley midfield

[vocal galleon]

He is the best central defender in history after Modric

[echo ore]

league cup?

[vocal galleon]

In 2010 he won the World Cup, what peak of his career could have been higher

[echo ore]

central mid? and no...zidane clear

[vocal galleon]

stats

[echo ore]

Zidane has a ballon

[vocal galleon]

luka too

[unkempt moat]

Wtf r yall even arguing about now

[vocal galleon]

he took croatia to the world final, and croatia didn't have any kind of achievement before that

[rancid umbra]

I believe so

[vocal galleon]

who had better teamates at 23

[echo ore]

mbappe had better international teammates

and messi still massively clear

47 goals and 23 assists

[digital jungle]

https://youtube.com/shorts/qUCQZyvSheE?feature=share

This is canonically accurate btw

[vocal galleon]

with two of the best midfielders in history

[unkempt moat]

The clip is stolen from another youtuber i think

Lemme double check

[echo ore]

and mbappe has the greatest of all time and neymar in an easier league

and wont break 30 goals

[digital jungle]

Oh Ik lol but this is what showed up on my shorts feed

[unkempt moat]

I found the original video btw

This clip was stolen dozens of times

[vocal galleon]

in laliga there are only two teams real madrid and barcelona

[echo ore]

what

there's literally one in france

just one

[unkempt moat]

Poor B/R football keeps getting his shit stolen

[vocal galleon]

the olimpic de marseilla is better than barcelona currntly

[echo ore]

french ligue is worse than italy

[vocal galleon]

If mbappe's teammates are so good, why don't they ever win the champions league

[echo ore]

hes not good enough

[vocal galleon]

last season they were eliminated by real madrid because of messi, missing the penalty in the first leg

[unkempt moat]

Real madrid is cracked

[echo ore]

aggregate was 3-2

so no thats false

[vocal galleon]

Mbappe carried the team in both games, Messi did literally nothing, he just missed a penalty

[echo ore]

sounds like you dont know what carry means

[vocal galleon]

admit it, messi eliminated psg last season

Without messi, PSG went further in the Champions League

[carmine brook]

relax dude, cool ur beans dude

[rancid umbra]

If you're using that logic, Ronaldo nearly eliminated United from European football altogether

[vocal galleon]

Ronaldo doesnt missed a penalty

[rancid umbra]

Nah, he just missed easy shots on goal

[vocal galleon]

Ronaldo is not the one who is in an easy league at 35

[rancid umbra]

At least Messi is in a league

Ronaldo couldn't hack it again in the prem

[echo ore]

wasnt ronaldo at Juve at 35

[rancid umbra]

correct

[echo ore]

so hes either admitting french league is worse than italy or

[vocal galleon]

serie A > league one

[echo ore]

okay so you admit la liga is harder so at least we got that checked off

so yea messi with 43 goals in a harder league than mbappe

[vocal galleon]

the only league with more than two competitive teams is the premier

[echo ore]

at 23

[vocal galleon]

all other leagues are easy

[echo ore]

french is literally the easiest

statistically

[vocal galleon]

currently has the same qualifiers for the round of 16 as LaLiga

[echo ore]

so now youre going off of champions league?

because wait until you hear about which league has the most winners of that

[vocal galleon]

there's no point in talking about which one has more in the story

[polar stag]

Mbappy

[echo ore]

what

all you care about is the past

[vocal galleon]

Because currently the only strong team in LaLiga is Real Madrid

[echo ore]

so now we're talking about present

post moving again

[vocal galleon]

all the time

[polar stag]

Messi and Mbape

[echo ore]

so presently...messi is the greatest of all time

[polar stag]

🤑

[vocal galleon]

Pele*

[echo ore]

presently, he has more goal contributions

[polar stag]

Halabd is best

Haaland

[echo ore]

presently, he has the golden ball from the world cup

[vocal galleon]

at least he doesn't score goals in a farmers league

[vocal galleon]

benzema

[echo ore]

presently, he has 7 ballons

[vocal galleon]

🥱

[echo ore]

benzema didnt play in the world cup

[polar stag]

Nigerians

[echo ore]

so

[vocal galleon]

benzema > messi

currently

[echo ore]

did benzema win the world cup?

[polar stag]

Nigeria should’ve won World Cup

[vocal galleon]

He only eliminated PSG in the round of 16 last season

[echo ore]

okay so we're back to the past

got it

[vocal galleon]

if he hadn't been injured yes

[rancid umbra]

Interesting line-up

[echo ore]

trying to stay on topic

but its hard to keep up

with the post shifting

[vocal galleon]

garnacho is overrated

[rancid umbra]

We know you have no ball knowledge duck, you don't have to prove it anymore

[vocal galleon]

Says a person who probably hasn't played a game in his life

[rancid umbra]

Literally playing a game right now

I've probably forgotten more about football than you'll ever know, buddy

[vocal galleon]

clear, fully checkable

[echo ore]

have you played after grammar school

[rancid umbra]

From the ages of like 4-21 I was playing football at least twice a week, watching it more than that and playing games related to it

I know the odd thing or two for sure

[echo ore]

ill save mine for later

[rancid umbra]

He isn't ready for yours

Tbf, I was once invited to play for the Uni team but I decided I was too fat

[echo ore]

me setting a uni record

[rancid umbra]

Fattest keeper?

[quartz ember]

Guys I had og Batmobile and skyline now there both gone what happened I haven’t played in Abt a year

[echo ore]

damn top 10 nationally for Save% 2 years in a row
top 5 GAA average one year with 4th highest minutes played

[rancid umbra]

No chance of going pro?

[echo ore]

height got to me. had a division 2 pro offer but its not worth it here

[rancid umbra]

How tall are you?

[echo ore]

with shoes on 177cm

[rancid umbra]

That's what, 5"9?

[echo ore]

right below 5 10

[rancid umbra]

oof

Pro football does not stan short king GKs

[echo ore]

no it does not

can concur

[tribal heron]

5 10 is 6

[rancid umbra]

No it is not

[echo ore]

thats 5 12

[tribal heron]

Ok I'm dumb

just forget everything

[rancid umbra]

and if you're going to round by 3 inches I'm 6"5

Might as well make it 6"6 yknow, bang in the middle

[echo ore]

heres full career stats

in uni

[rancid umbra]

81.3% saved on average is a damn good number

[echo ore]

the first 2 were legendary

i was a 1st year the starter got injured. played in the tourney games as first start. posted 9 and 5 saves in 2 games lol

[rancid umbra]

I wonder what my 7-a-side save percentage was

[echo ore]

26 shutouts in 58 games aint bad

[rancid umbra]

Just under 50%

[echo ore]

or clean sheets

i should say

[rancid umbra]

Eh, I know what a shutout is

[echo ore]

oh also only 1 yellow

[rancid umbra]

Only one? Rookie numbers

[echo ore]

I KNOW

[rancid umbra]

Tbf, in 7 years as a CB I never got booked

[digital jungle]

Need more!!

[rancid umbra]

and that was considering the amount of dodgy refs we had

[echo ore]

considering how much game management i did

for the life of me i didnt know i got a yellow that game

[rancid umbra]

One (who had the same name as my brother) hated me for god knows why

Warned me about giving away a penalty when I was the one having my shirt and arm pulled at a corner

Gave a pen against me when I was 4 yards away from the player

and gave me a shout of good tackle when I just about got a toe on the ball and went through two people

I miss Sunday league defending

[echo ore]

my sunday league wasnt half bad. it was all former uni players mostly

[rancid umbra]

Sky sports really making Sean Dyche give punditry on the team that got rid of him

[echo ore]

LOL

[rancid umbra]

League cup was better when it was the carling cup tbh

[echo ore]

is it still Carabao

[rancid umbra]

mhm

[echo ore]

lame

[rancid umbra]

Another alcohol company needs to take over tbh

Jagermeister cup sounds class

[echo ore]

Chang

[rancid umbra]

The bank that's called Sterling

The mascot? Whatever it is, call it Scott

[echo ore]

Chang was cool on everton

[rancid umbra]

Back when everton were someway decent

[echo ore]

indeed

Tim Howard carried

[rancid umbra]

Was that back in the days where you had Arteta too

[echo ore]

yea. fellaini and pienaar

peinaar was a baller

[rancid umbra]

Damien Duff too wasn't there?

[echo ore]

nah didnt play for us

think newcastle or fulham

[rancid umbra]

Fulham that was

[echo ore]

is liverpool city tomorrow

ah it is

same time

what a pass that was lol

bruno took too long to play that

[gilded osprey]

how are we gonna win

[rancid umbra]

Probably by outscoring the opposition

[gilded osprey]

no i mean liverpool vs man city

[gilded osprey]

very funny

[rancid umbra]

you asked

[gilded osprey]

i mean about the game

not in ur chemistry logic

[digital jungle]

Isn’t that how you usually win?

By scoring more

Excluding golf

[gilded osprey]

yes

but im talking in the future

the liverpool vs man city game

they have halland

anyone here

i have a question

[drowsy seal]

ask it

[gilded osprey]

ur names are colored

how

???

[signal notch]

roles

[gilded osprey]

well how to get roles

[rancid umbra]

#set-roles

[gilded osprey]

thx

[echo ore]

oh my

thats what we call a pussy punch

holy moly

@rancid umbra whats this mans doin

[rancid umbra]

?

[echo ore]

your damn GK

[rancid umbra]

It gets worse dw

Man's just pure vibing

[echo ore]

i saw the first touch

or lack there of

big save

[rancid umbra]

You're about 15 seconds ahead of me

[echo ore]

i see

[rancid umbra]

Rashford's world and we're just living in it

[viscid forum]

your mature

[unkempt moat]

Wtf i never knew Neymar was a video game streamer

Mf gets money through football, streaming AND poker?

God damn

[rancid umbra]

He probably just uses his clout to transition across platforms

[digital jungle]

Makes sense

If you have a big following why not take with you in other business ventures

[echo ore]

Iirc a American football player quit football because he became bigger on twitch

[vocal galleon]

its called soccer

[echo ore]

[vocal galleon]

USA >England

[echo ore]

That's accurate at least

England has no super bowls

[rocky basin]

Mbappe the goat

[vivid radish]

finally that guy left

[vocal galleon]

who

[vivid radish]

this guy was spam pinging moderators

[digital jungle]

Omg

He’s def going places

Idk where yet but it’s somewhere

[raven aurora]

club america and cr7 the goats

[prime marlin]

No

[rancid umbra]

World champions in your own country smh

[modest sable]

americans just play sports their good at

[rancid umbra]

Bro you crown yourselves World champions despite never holding a world championship

[signal notch]

such a british thing

[rancid umbra]

Stay in your lane

[echo ore]

Still the world champs

[rancid umbra]

Not in the sports that matter

[echo ore]

Only in the sports we create

England should try to create another so they can try to bring that home

Apparently that photo also applies to cricket...

Smh 0 for 2

[rancid umbra]

Nah we're decent at cricket

[severe jungle]

Can some one help me plz

[dark flare]

t20 world champions

[digital jungle]

W decision

[digital jungle]

No

Also use trading channels

[digital jungle]

@echo ore not fifa getting butt hurt about Dibu and removing his award 💀💀

“In Europe they are outraged by the celebration of the goalkeeper of the Argentine team and ask that the award be taken away”

💀💀💀

OFC ITS THE EU THATS CRYING

[rancid umbra]

Britain doesn't care, we think it's funny af#

I rate Emi's shithousery

[digital jungle]

Bro idk why they are so hungover it man

He lives in the associations head rent fucking free

It’s amazing

[rancid umbra]

France mad cus bad

[digital jungle]

Honestly

Mad cuz they’re savior Mbappé didn’t get them another wc trophy

Mad cuz their savior got beat by the man known as the shortest man on the pitch

[echo ore]

i hope he continues

[main panther]

Bro sad days to be ronaldo fans

First they were already pressed cuz ronaldo has been doing badly (benched, no goals, cut from ManU) and now to put the cherry on top Argentina wins the WC and Messi fans going wild lmao

[echo ore]

and no club wants him

[digital jungle]

Sames I hope he never changes

[crisp adder]

I heard some arab team want him for 170 mil

[tulip zealot]

thats why athletes from around the world comes to america to play basically every other major sport except "futbol" bc no other country can even compete with america

[rancid umbra]

They probably could

but no one wants to

[tulip zealot]

usa tying with england in this past world cup is the equivalent of britian forming their own american football team, coming to the US and playing the pro bowl team and tying

which would never happen in 1000 years

if america cared about soccer we'd be in the world cup final almost every time

look at the womens team... they

are a dynasty

bc soccer is the major sport here for women

but not men

[rancid umbra]

Not even close bud

The reason women's soccer in the US is leagues ahead is because it was adopted far earlier

Just because somewhere cares about a sport doesn't instantly mean they'll be good at it

[rancid umbra]

I mean that is basically saying that the US mens team didn't care, and the draw means absolutely nothing

International football is a whole different ball game as it is

[tulip zealot]

im just saying if our best athletes trained all their lives to play soccer instead of say basketball or american football the team would be light years better than they are now

[rancid umbra]

not necessarily

[tulip zealot]

lol what

[rancid umbra]

Just because you train for something your whole life doesn't automatically make you the best

[tulip zealot]

you are missing my point

[rancid umbra]

Not really?

[tulip zealot]

im simply saying if soccer was the major sport here then the more elite athletes in this country would be playing that instead of football or basketball or anything else

[rancid umbra]

Doesn't automatically mean you'd be better at it

[tulip zealot]

have you seen tyreek hill?

or lebron?

lol

lebron would be the best keeper in the world

if he trained his entire life at it instead of basketball

[rancid umbra]

Somehow I doubt that

[tulip zealot]

bro

have you seen lebron james play?

and im not talking about the lebron of today

[rancid umbra]

Also the sheer arrogance to imply that America's sporting people are better across the board than that of any other countries

[tulip zealot]

10 years ago lebron

when did i say that

[rancid umbra]

The implication is right there

[tulip zealot]

i simply said if our elite athletes played soccer instead of basketball and football the team would be way better than it is now

[rancid umbra]

and if other countries elite athletes also played football the US would be in the same position as it is

it's a nothing point your making

[tulip zealot]

but soccer is the major sport in the majority of these other countries

i dont think you realize how much americans do not care about soccer

if we cared even half the amount as the rest of the world did we would be a respectable team every year

[rancid umbra]

and on the flip side of that, I don't think you realise how little other countries care about American football or baseball

the whole point I made was that you call yourselves world champions of that sport without playing other countries

[tulip zealot]

messi is the goat of soccer

[rancid umbra]

That's like Manchester United winning the Premier League and crowning themselves the world champions

[tulip zealot]

but he wouldnt even make it to the collegiate level of any major sport in america

[rancid umbra]

what's that got to do with the price of cheese?

[tulip zealot]

im just saying not even the goat of soccer would be successful in major american sports

so why do you think other poeople would be?

[rancid umbra]

That isn't my point at all?

[tulip zealot]

whats this then

[rancid umbra]

Me saying that other countries don't care about American football or baseball in response to you saying that America doesn't care about football

[tulip zealot]

which i then said if america DID care about soccer then they would be better at it

[rancid umbra]

Not sure where the correlation of countries not caring goes to players being good at radically different sports

[tulip zealot]

for the 100th time

if america cared about soccer

the elite athletes would play it

the lebrons of the world

the tyreek hills

etc

[rancid umbra]

That doesn't necessarily mean that they'd be better at it

There's more to football than raw athleticism

Messi actually proves that point perfectly

[tulip zealot]

lebron is 6'9 with a 7 foot wingspan and a 46 inch vertical....

tell me whos scoring on that?

[rancid umbra]

Quite a few people, quite easily I should imagine

[tulip zealot]

all bro has to do is lie down and he covers half the goal

[rancid umbra]

which leaves the top half open

[tulip zealot]

you mightve missed the part about the 70 inch wingspan and the 46 inch vert...

7 foot wingspan***

look no ones perfect but lebron would be an elite keeper

[rancid umbra]

46 inch vert wouldn't count for shit if he's lying down

also, he really wouldn't

[tulip zealot]

whos the best keeper in the world rn

or like

some of the best

[rancid umbra]

He'd be solid, but I don't think he'd be near the world's best

[tulip zealot]

lebron would be the best at anything he put his heart into

[rancid umbra]

I feel like you're just a massive lebron fan tbh

[tulip zealot]

nah i actually hate lebron

and i think mj is the goat

but lebron is clear cut number 2

but mj is a little too old to be relevant in this conversation

[rancid umbra]

LeBron is barely relevant going back to my original point lmao

[tulip zealot]

which was

[rancid umbra]

this

[tulip zealot]

whats stopping other countries from forming teams and competing against us?

canada has a basketball team

canada has multiple NHL teams

even mexico is getting looked into for an expansion team in the NBA

or maybe NFL

i cant rememember which

remember*

[rancid umbra]

That doesn't disprove the point, though

The world extends further than the Americas

[tulip zealot]

its world champs bc there are no other teams in the world

all the teams in the world already competed

[rancid umbra]

But all you've done is won an American league

[tulip zealot]

then form your own team and join the league

no one is stopping you

[rancid umbra]

That's like a premier league team winning the premier division and going "yep we're world champs now adios"

[tulip zealot]

but thats not how it works bc there are other leagues across the world for soccer

[rancid umbra]

The adios ofc making them international

[tulip zealot]

there are no other football leagues

[rancid umbra]

And there are other leagues for basketball and football

[tulip zealot]

yeah and america destroys every team in basketball in the olympics every year LOL

[rancid umbra]

5 point difference is hardly destroying lmao

[tulip zealot]

america has won gold 7 of the last 8 times

and hasnt lost since 2004

i call that dominance

[rancid umbra]

and that makes them olympic champions

Never said they weren't dominant

[tulip zealot]

and the olympics are countries competing against each other

and when one team wins

they are

world champions

wow

look at that

[rancid umbra]

Except this wasn't pointed at national teams, but at club teams

so whilst a good point, irrelevant

[tulip zealot]

not really

but you go on

[rancid umbra]

wdym not really
every point I've made has been directed towards - and referencing for evidence - club teams

[tulip zealot]

if it bothers you so much that we call our sports teams world champions when no other countries form teams to compete against us then form your own teams and join our league and compete and beat us

no one is stopping you

but that doesnt fit your agenda

[rancid umbra]

Doesn't bother me at all

[tulip zealot]

apparently it does bc youve been sitting here talking to me about it for the last half hour

[rancid umbra]

That's because I can't decide which game to play

[echo ore]

What if the league is literally the best in the world

[rancid umbra]

Doesn't work for the premier league, doesn't work for you buddy

[echo ore]

Because the premier league isn't literally the best

It's perceived as the most competitive but it doesn't have the world's best players

[rancid umbra]

depends on your definition of the best

[echo ore]

If the league had literally all of the best players

And there was only 1

[tulip zealot]

side note im literally c2 and ive been searching for a game for probably 15 minutes now

i havent touched the game in probably 2 months was there an update or somethin to make queue times way longer?

[echo ore]

Of the top 10 ballon list only 3 were in premiere league

[rancid umbra]

Issue with matchmaking atm

[rancid umbra]

yeah but we all know that the Ballon D'or can be questionable

And I would argue that more of the best players play in the prem than any other league

[echo ore]

But not all of them

[rancid umbra]

you make a prem Best XI vs. any other top 6 league best XI the prem would come out on top

[echo ore]

I think real, barce, and athletico destroys prem

Easily

[rancid umbra]

No chance

[echo ore]

Yes chance

[rancid umbra]

tell you what

you make your XI, I'll make my XI, and we'll see how badly wrong you are

[echo ore]

🤝

[tulip zealot]

and i would argue all of the best players play in the NFL, NBA, MLB. and NHL

[rancid umbra]

Dude we're past that

[tulip zealot]

i was in a game

[rancid umbra]

@echo ore

ft. bad cropping and all

Best part is, that team is quite flexible in terms of shape too#

can go to 5 at the back if having to defend a lead, or 2 at the back if chasing

[rancid umbra]

Bounou's a brave shout

[echo ore]

had to give over courtouis

Highest number of clean sheets in la liga plus world cup performance

[rancid umbra]

My team > your team

[echo ore]

nah my midfield better

[rancid umbra]

Walker pockets Vini, especially with the help of Saka

[echo ore]

modric de jong kroos clear

[rancid umbra]

idk

looking old and slow to me

aside from De Jong

[echo ore]

you have casemiro tho

so

[rancid umbra]

yes but kante runs over your midfield

[echo ore]

kante gonna have to help laporte all game

[rancid umbra]

No chance, Kante Casemeiro runs that midfield

[echo ore]

kroos modric >

also youre team is off i dont see iwobi

[rancid umbra]

I thought I'd give you a chance

[echo ore]

German league wouldn't be a slouch either with musiala, mane, nkunku, haller, kimmich

[vocal galleon]

eric garcia 💀

[karmic ether]

I've been rewatching Mbappe scoring this 2nd goal for 10 minutes now

it is still mind blowing

RLCS S5 jstn vibes

[echo ore]

It's David garcia

[stiff halo]

Your trash at Valorant

[rancid umbra]

Not saying the games wouldn't be close, but I reckon the prem would take em

[modest grove]

ok im ngl

currently messi is the goat

but in like 5 years

its gonna be mbappe lol

[echo ore]

Even if mbappe won all 5 ballons in a row...he still would have less than messi

[rancid umbra]

Mbappe will be great, but we may never see someone like Messi again

[elder zodiac]

Highly doubt, you never know what these young players can become…

Just a matter of determination and good mindset

[vast bear]

No one can be compared to messi

[drowsy seal]

yep bendtner's too good for that

[vast bear]

U trippin

[frigid ibex]

goodnight

[signal notch]

that volley is absolutely immaculate

[tribal heron]

For future questions abt trading go to this channel #trading-discussion they may help u

[sharp ridge]

Mbappe will come in Liverpool and Liverpool will win Real 4-1

[digital jungle]

The fact that Qatar was not only the was the worst suitable county and was the worst rated country for the wc is wild considering it ended up in Qatar

Money really does talk man

[coarse bramble]

Hi

I like RL

[modest sable]

i mean when someones gonna give you millions just to vote for one country over another that will impact you in 0 way at all... i mean... or when theyre offering to give you oil i meaaaannn

it talks plenty

[digital jungle]

it does indee

South korea and or japan wouldve been a fire place to hold a wc

[dark flare]

2002

[hexed widget]

it was not about trading

[modest sable]

ew cringe

[fathom crater]

Hm

[crude vessel]

I've mastered the Air Elastico!

[dark flare]

400cr

[open lance]

@neat bridge canes are hard throwing against the flyers

almost given up a 4 goal lead

[neat bridge]

HUH

[open lance]

2 SHORTHANDED GOALS

[neat bridge]

whats going on with them😭

[open lance]

idek the canes are pretty good i think

empty net now

[open lance]

canes held on and won lets goo

[neat bridge]

whew

[open lance]

mcdavid just scored on you

[neat bridge]

On me? Wym? Is it oilers vs Canucks?

[open lance]

i thought u said u liked pens and canucks 😭

[neat bridge]

But you said you and not us? So I thought it’s canucks since you also like pens

So it’s 87 vs 97?

[open lance]

yeah i was talking about canucks

nono

[neat bridge]

Oh okok

[open lance]

lmao

[neat bridge]

Eh tbh, canucks losing this one

[open lance]

yeah itll be tough

[neat bridge]

I just want Quinn to get better bro

and petterson

Plus the bo situation is draining

[open lance]

whats the bo situation

[neat bridge]

His contract is about to end and I’m pretty sure canucks can’t sign him again cause they’re broke

[open lance]

aww rip

are you from canada?

[neat bridge]

Yup wby

[open lance]

im from cali but i have a lot of family in canada

[neat bridge]

Cali is better

Always warmer

[open lance]

i want snow tho

i literally love snow

[neat bridge]

Bc better

Or Alberta

[open lance]

usa just has a bad rep tho

[neat bridge]

It really does, Canada is worse though, by a mile

[open lance]

really?

ive been there and it seems nice

[neat bridge]

JT is ruining us bro

Not gonna get into politics though

But he’s really just ruining Canada’s rep

[open lance]

whats jt i feel like ive heard it b4

oh its a person

[neat bridge]

Justin Trudeau (I think that’s how you spell his last name)

[open lance]

ive been to Toronto, i think thats the only place ive been to

[neat bridge]

Personally I dislike it but also love it

[open lance]

it was a while ago so I dont rly remember it

[neat bridge]

A blessing in disguise

[open lance]

lmao

[neat bridge]

Unless you actually had fun there

[open lance]

i was like 10 years old so i assume it was fun for me

i went to blue jays stadium, almost saw a game but didn't

[neat bridge]

Oo i almost went to a blue jays game also till I realized I don’t like watching baseball

[open lance]

lmao

[neat bridge]

Playing it is much funner

[open lance]

yeah fr

i used to play

[neat bridge]

Oo lucky

Rn I really only swim and gym

[open lance]

ah nice

yay the ducks are gonna lose again!

[neat bridge]

They’re down there

Right by the canucks

but like, worse, much worse

[open lance]

canucks are staying with the oilers

[neat bridge]

bro...

oilers got destroyed!!

[weary gazelle]

...

[neat bridge]

Are you an oilers fan???!!!

[weary gazelle]

maybe? I live in alb and Calgary sucks so

[neat bridge]

Calgary does suck lmao

[weary gazelle]

def and flames fans are mean

[neat bridge]

They are but it’s better than cheering for the oilers😭

[weary gazelle]

well idk practically everyone ik does (except for the odd flames fan 🥱)

[open lance]

i didnt expect anything less

ducks lost in ot

[open lance]

damnn lets go

[neat bridge]

YESSIR 5-2!!!!!!

Everything’s going right today

[open lance]

absolute W

[flint elbow]

[torpid osprey]

for the hockey fans

you think ovi is gonna break gretzkeys record?

[frank garden]

No

[torpid osprey]

i think he will

he’s got a good 2 seasons at least left in him

and he only needs 80ish more

that’s very possible for ovi

[neat bridge]

Idk maybe, on the fence with it

[open lance]

true, he could do it

[solid zealot]

doubt it tbh, unless he just peaks

bruins aren’t so great, yeah we’re doing amazing but were losing our edge a bit

[neat bridge]

toronto>

[marble fox]

Prem league starting tm

[karmic ether]

Leagues so mid

International football clears

[drowsy seal]

💀

[uneven geyser]

sW

[buoyant obsidian]

Im world champion

You guys not

[neat bridge]

Argentina>

[wild reef]

Rest in peace Pele

[smoky stump]

Merry Christmas

[tribal shale]

Facts

[oak hedge]

Uhhhhhhhh

[open lance]

W team

[neat bridge]

ew no

The city is alright, I just have a grudge against the leafs

[open lance]

why

thats so rude smh

[neat bridge]

Pens and canucks for the win any day of the week though

[open lance]

yeah pens over everything

[neat bridge]

Tbh idek why😭😭

I just got a grudge against them😼

[open lance]

lmao

[sick zodiac]

Tennessee Titans are throwing 😭

[karmic ether]

Tough to wait for F1

[open lance]

@neat bridge i got a penguins hat and im going to a ducks v penguins game sometime!

im so excited

[neat bridge]

YES!!

wait wait

Pens V Ducks

[open lance]

yes

[neat bridge]

Who are you gonna be cheering for?

[open lance]

PENGUINS

[neat bridge]

YESS!!!

[open lance]

YEAHHH

[wide ginkgo]

Dogs

[neat bridge]

PENGUINS OVER ANYTHING

[open lance]

🐧

[hexed pond]

ARGENTINA OVER ANYTHING

PSG OVER ANYTHING

[rancid umbra]

Not the UCL they aren't

[vapid pumice]

psg are finished

[peak mortar]

Why spurs playing like they haven't played in forever

😭😭

What is spurs defence doing

[vapid pumice]

tanganga is so bad

[karmic ether]

wdym PSG are finished

they never started

[pallid bay]

@echo ore

come on you gotta beat wolves

[pallid bay]

we almost did a Bournemouth

[echo ore]

We still don't have a striker who can score tap ins

If this isn't a red pauson should be fired

[pallid bay]

so dal.. add my main

[echo ore]

They didn't even look at it

💀

[pallid bay]

did you see pen shout in our game

kane got rugby tackled to floor

var looked waved it away

[echo ore]

Nah didn't get up for the early game

[echo ore]

Sounds about right for everton

[rancid umbra]

@echo ore chromie says gj on avoiding relegation again

Tbf, the man did speaketh too soon

[echo ore]

Yup

Losing to last place in the 95th is always nice...with man city Saturday

[rancid umbra]

At least forest are likely to drop points tomorrow

Notice I said likely

[echo ore]

Ronaldo will help

💀

[peak mortar]

Man united fumbled gakpo soooo hard

[echo ore]

Have to be good to fumble

What it really shows is how bad a flop Nunez is

[rancid umbra]

Can't fumble a player the Glazers were never going to buy

[vagrant jasper]

lol

i think mbappe would play prem level

[fallen latch]

ehhhh

[vagrant jasper]

but he would rather a move to real

[fallen latch]

yea

Thats the ideal spiot

spot