esports

[buoyant tiger]

I believe Falcons would have definitely kept TRK if it wasn't for the twins being twins

[steep locust]

He's been playing in RLCS or at the level for 3.5 years lol, he's not some rookie.
The trio just looks a bit thrown together and I can't say I'm very optimistic in this team beating Falcons.

I don't think Falcons are so delusional that they're keeping the twins simply for who they are, their whole thing is throwing money at the best people they can get. Trk is still great and it wouldn't necessarily be wrong if they ran it back again but he is the one that vanishes the most in the big LAN games, so jumping at somebody like Drali isn't bad at all tbh

[buoyant tiger]

Sure but it's not a one-sided things, if the twins say they play together no matter what, Falcons can't really afford to drop them both

[steep locust]

I mean if they really felt like it they could have chucked the twins out and got Nwpo and Trk themselves

Doubt Twisted Minds are exactly throwing around moneybags on the level of the Falcons, because literally nobody is on the planet

They would have to genuinely believe that the twins are the better duo

And I would agree really

[buoyant tiger]

Twins > TRK+Nwpo

That doesn't mean TRK was a weak link in Falcons

[steep locust]

It at the least made him the most replaceable

We would have had to be seeing prime TRK from 3 years ago to see him stand a chance of not being thrown out at the first opportunity

Especially once imports became far less risky

[jovial solar]

This is what I’m so surprised about. It’s like known trk is going there in the community that people were only asking about tm third when they didn’t even have. 2nd

[remote jolt]

oh yeah nobody can ever say nrg is better than vitallity bro

[jovial solar]

what?

[molten oxide]

you got outplaced by oce calm down

[lethal finch]

I still dont know whats going on with M8s and why everyone is flaming them

[steep locust]

Mostly because they kicked Radosin after Open 3 and then got rolled by his team in the LCQ

I mean it was an objectively good change but still very funny

And EU team fans always like sinking the boot into another EU team whenever they can

[lethal finch]

Nah im on about the statement they put out either last night or the night before

[steep locust]

What was the statement?

[lethal finch]

Well theyve deleted it now but i have the blue wall account's response

https://x.com/LeBlueWall/status/1973086040534532140?t=VIvA2xKcPp_JLKjwRHGYug&s=19

[steep locust]

The team never was going to, Nwpo ensured that with his attempt at seeing if people would accept him being a racist

Left him with either mid MENA players or EU players desperate to cling onto a LAN spot rather than anybody actually capable of following him into a deep run

And what do you know, his next team is the player thrown out of the best MENA team and another EU player desperate to cling onto a LAN spot

Probably not but it still had an obvious negative effect

Was a major contributor to Rule One ceasing operations for one which was a major loss for MENA that really won't be repaired for a long time, and must have hastened oKhalid's exit from the esport as well who while not at his full strength was still a good option

And really, would that French crowd have been piling so much booing and obvious dislike onto the MENA teams and Nwpo without that fuel to add on?
I know that was over a year ago by the time the LAN happened but they aren't easy on forgetting.

Oh yeah I forgot that Nwpo literally couldn't play 2024 Worlds in a tournament he probably could have made top 4 in because of it lol. Putting your teammates off enough that they don't even want to play the biggest LAN of the year with you is something.

[timber sigil]

TRK JOINED TWISTED MINDS???!!!!!

@vital herald

He was insane on Falcons

[fiery elbow]

hasnt been announced yet but its been known for like a week and a half that he was gonna be joining twisted

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[torpid ice]

Ur joking right. The twins were invincible this season

Imo mm wasn’t s tier when he won worlds in 2024. He doesn’t need to be a tier to win

[torpid ice]

Ghaazi and Abdullah are not mid

Bro has no idea

[jolly egret]

does anyone know a server where someone can look for a rl team? for rlcs

[torpid ice]

Yh it’s called rocket league esports-eu

But that’s only for eu obviously

If ur not eu then don’t join that one

[jolly egret]

ight thanks i will look at it

where can i find it

[steep locust]

I mean let's be real, ROC were the No. 195 team at Worlds

[torpid ice]

Roc were at least 15

[steep locust]

And would have been 20th or worse without Gen.G wanting to do the airport speedrun

[torpid ice]

U can’t be 19 if u won 2 games

[steep locust]

Actually yeah I just added 4 phantom teams in my head lmao

Amend it to 15th

[torpid ice]

Yh that’s about right

But put one of them with Nwpo and TRK and that’s a team and a half

They are and have been top tier players for the past 8 months

[steep locust]

Still that ranking puts Virtus Pro above them which for me makes them pretty mid
MENA is just plain not that stacked for RLCS outside of what's already on TM and Falcons

[torpid ice]

Genuinely they are constantly top 10 in 2s

They lost to Furia and dig bro it’s not like they lost to scrubs

[steep locust]

MENA kind of suffered what OCE did a few years back with everybody retiring while still being clear above most of the field

[torpid ice]

No Mena depth has increased so much this season

[steep locust]

If oKhalid and Ahmad in particular still played they'd honestly still be above what below TM and Falcons has to offer

[torpid ice]

U got Nush Drknown ops Abdullah Ghaazi

[torpid ice]

Absolutely not

[steep locust]

There's a reason why everybody has been calling MENA a one-team region for the last year or so. It's not because it's unearned.

A bit mixed up now Falcons have an import and Nwpo finally getting a good MENA player on his team

[torpid ice]

It’s because they don’t watch Mena

I have and the players are ridiculous

Twisted are just scared to give the next gen a chance

They are already better than na 4

[steep locust]

Or MonkeyMoon is just the better option.

[torpid ice]

no bruh

Twisted really wanted an import and mm really wanted a buyout or he was going to sit the season out

[steep locust]

All I can ask you is if you'd believe that any of the ROC players would have been able to be airdropped into MM's position on Vitality and not been a relative liability

[torpid ice]

Mm is better than them rn but if let’s say Ghaazi went to twisted he would become better than mm so fast

[torpid ice]

Ghaazi

Ghaazi is a beast

I think mm’s defence is slightly better than his but Ghaazi has the mechs to back TRK and Nwpo up

[steep locust]

The beast sitting on the team that failed to make playoffs in two of the last three MENA opens?
Credit for the finals result in Open 5 but honestly every player on that team just looks too cold too often to really be useful to the top 2 right now

TM are ultimately trying to beat Falcons and Ghaazi would at best help maintain the status quo even with TRK and Nwpo in 2026, maybe 2027 if he improves enough

Because let's be honest, going for any player other than the top 4 Saudis is a swing for the fences that should only be made in desperation right now, and there's enough import talent lining up to avoid that

[torpid ice]

Yes they had ups and downs like any other team but they lost to vision who is another good team

In lcq they swept them twice

They just improved

[torpid ice]

I disagree. Ghaazi is improving way faster than mm. They only got mm because they were desperate and I doubt he stays for more than a season. Ghaazi would be a world class player by split 2

[steep locust]

The H2H stands at 5-5 including the recent Saudi ELeague so saying they've improved to the point of beating Vision every time, a very middling MENA team, is a bit iffy
It was simply their day in the LCQ and ROC have proven themselves inconsistent enough that on another given day they'd barely make top 8

[torpid ice]

I mean I’m only talking about 1 player on the team

That is Ghaazi

[steep locust]

Until they can start beating these teams more than once every 2-3 events they won't be shaking the label off

[torpid ice]

When ur playing with TRK and Nwpo it will be hard to play badly

[steep locust]

If Ghaazi was truly that good then they wouldn't be losing to Vision, not mentioning you're painting him as some one-man army on ROC

[steep locust]

Most likely only stays for one season, Ghaazi being the next in line or even a MENA player in general is no guarantee however

It will require them actually being able to match up against TM and the midfield more favourably to get that attention come post-season

[timber sigil]

I am NA but I don't like the roster change PLS KEEP TRK ON FALCONS 4 LIFEEEEEE

[jovial solar]

makes sense why they did it but annoying

[vital herald]

what are you smoking lol genuinely

[vital herald]

yeah im pretty sure, alongside mm and nwpo

[vital herald]

hell no, abdullah is a much better shout, and i dont think he is better than mm as a player, but for a mena team, playing alongside people (trk and nwpo) who you scrim and dominate 2s with, would defo be much better than what a player like mm would offer

[torpid ice]

Plus he can actually become friends with them since he speaks Arabic

TRK is a very social guy

[vital herald]

agreed, dralii good and all, but trk was the backbone, and sometimes the carry of the team, dralii is prolly better, but like i said with the mm and abdullah comparison, elite players dont mean elite team, just look at vit last season

[torpid ice]

Falcons friendship is under appreciated in their success

[vital herald]

that reminded me, does dralii know arabic

[torpid ice]

No

[vital herald]

damn, wtf

[torpid ice]

I’m sure he knows a little but he’s not fluent

If he’s serious he might be learning rn

[vital herald]

everyone say falcons a super mechy and aggresive fast pace team, but i feel like they easily have the best chemistry amongst any other team

[torpid ice]

Rise learned French to join the French side of Eu

[vital herald]

fakes, midfield passes, booming the ball to the corner so the other tm8 follows it up, booming it upfield towards a tm8 on the ceiling

[torpid ice]

Since London 2024 they’ve had the best chem

[vital herald]

i dont see any other team doing this, except nrg a little

[torpid ice]

The twins have always had great chem but TRK is like a 3rd twin

I’m actually so sad he’s gone

I loved that roster

[vital herald]

frfr but if dralii can be just as good if not better, ill be happy that it was worth it atleast

[torpid ice]

Prejumps, air dribble bump passes

[vital herald]

if dralii chokes it i am supporting tm

[torpid ice]

Yh and Dralii made fast friends with Atow and Vati so maybe he can with the twins

[torpid ice]

Dralii and choke in the same sentence

[jovial solar]

i thought he already knew french

[vital herald]

hopefully this season, mena can have 2 rly elite teams, i except falcons to be elite (like major winning contender) and twisted to be a top 4 contender

[jovial solar]

i personally feel if falcons wanted dralii they needed dralii killrz and trk to maximise their chances

[vital herald]

if abdullah was on that roster id even say final contender call me crazy

[vital herald]

yk damn well the twins aint seperating

[torpid ice]

Probably because ppl in the uk learn French in school but he became fluent when he wanted to join bds

[jovial solar]

i know

[torpid ice]

Genuinely falcons is nothing without Rw9

We would be so ass without him

He is always there for the save that literally nobody else can make

[jovial solar]

i disagree if he you asked me at the start of 2025 sure but now no

[torpid ice]

Then we counter and Kiilleerz scores

Rw9 clutched up so many times against twisted

Rw9 carried in Birmingham

Rw9 was impenetrable at Raleigh and worlds especially vs KC

[torpid ice]

Why

[jovial solar]

to me trk is the backbone of falcons and you cant do anything without him.
Rw9 before 2025 season was the main guy.
but now killrz has actually improved massivley hes taken that spot from his brother

[torpid ice]

I disagree

[vital herald]

trk is the mena goat honestly

[torpid ice]

Kiilleerz has become a well rounded player this season

[torpid ice]

Obviously

[vital herald]

by miles too, since he did what okhalid couldnt, win a lan

4 finals in the open era, 1x worlds finalist, 1x worlds semifinalist, 3x lan finalist, 1x lan winner, 1x off-season lan winner

dominated the region too

[torpid ice]

Kiilleerz has become a well rounded player this season but Rw9 is the it factor for falcons. He is just the most consistent so ppl don’t even realise what falcons look like when he’s not playing well. TRK is the backbone of falcons but Dralii can be that as well. Rw9 is irreplaceable

How many times has falcons needed a goal and Rw9 just 1v3s

[vital herald]

rw9 is their best player, but id say they all trade w each other

[torpid ice]

I can literally pull out 2 from memory. The pinch vs vitality and the air dribble cross map vs KC at EWC

[torpid ice]

Agreed

He is just consistently there

[jovial solar]

I wouldn’t be suprised if Falcons do a KC this year

[vital herald]

which KC

[torpid ice]

During the middle of the season Kiilleerz peaked the highest

[vital herald]

last season kc or last last season kc

[torpid ice]

But Rw9 was still insane

[vital herald]

if its last season kc, thats good, if not.....

[jovial solar]

2025

[torpid ice]

Except we win worlds

[jovial solar]

No. This year is KC year

[vital herald]

with juicy???????????????????

[torpid ice]

Top 4, top 2, win

It’s only natural

[jovial solar]

The cope is real.

[vital herald]

it is real, are you french

[jovial solar]

No

[vital herald]

damn

big vati fan?

vati has made 3 worlds top 4 bt

thats genuinely crazy

[torpid ice]

Realistically any yr could be the yr Vati wins

Because he’s Vati

Nobody has won 4 LANs in the open era apart from Vati

But Rw9 wants his name on champions field and nobody is stopping him

Sry

[jovial solar]

yes i am. ever since queso

[pliant crow]

So many times Vati has had an absolutely phenomenal season, unquestionably making KC easy no.1. They just never time it right at worlds.

[jovial solar]

So true but coping to hoping it changes

[pliant crow]

Best believe it

[wheat sinew]

There’s a couple players who I think everyone can agree deserve to win

For example Vati getting a worlds win, FK getting a major

Also has LJ ever won a regional?

[steep locust]

FK's never deserved a win, choked his one shot at it by acting like he was a better defender than Mist and getting the harsh reminder that it was never what he was meant to do.

He's a great player but being 2nd for life is pretty much his calling

And Vatira in terms of worlds has never put it together at all, the pressure always breaks him. Would require a big turnaround on his part or getting fortunate with playing a bunny team in the final like The Ultimates at Birmingham

[wheat sinew]

Na see that’s totally wrong for FK. At least get your facts right. His calling in life is Fourthkiller

LOL

[steep locust]

I know it's a meme but the funny thing is that he actually hasn't come 4th in a tournament since EWC 14 months ago

[wheat sinew]

Oh wow, figured it’d happened at least once

[steep locust]

Yeah The Ultimates have been eerily consistent at coming either 2nd or 5th/6th

[wheat sinew]

I’ve never been a big FK or LJ fan but I hope they do well on Shopify

Most of my investment in them this coming season is from Shop being a good org for the scene and Kofyr being super entertaining to watch last year on SSG

[vital herald]

vati is so unlucky, he defo deserveres atleast a worlds final, being a 3x lan winner is just crazy

[buoyant tiger]

What's unlucky about losing to better teams? Two times in a row they lost to runner-ups, and in 2023 they got there because they lost to BDS in groups

[vital herald]

fk an elite player with a bad mindset

[vital herald]

and they lost to a peaking vita-i mean peaking zen, who went on to win it all

when i mean unlucky, i mean hes defo the best player in the open era not to have even made a final at worlds

[neat terrace]

How do you guys rank teams pre-season?

[uneven rapids]

Whos the best team to win the kick off lan

[tender belfry]

Is it true AppJack left Dignitas?

[jovial solar]

yes

[jovial solar]

an EU or NA team

[jovial solar]

once i know where everyone goes ill give my predictions

[humble sparrow]

Nrg , falcons , shopify rebellion, kc , vitality , ssg

Can't think of any others

[jovial solar]

m8s?

tm?

[fiery elbow]

geekay

furia

[humble sparrow]

Twisted would be around top 6-8

[fiery elbow]

rocket league back in 13 days (coupe de france slash)

[somber wind]

I think neg, falcons, and vitality will cook this season

[brittle musk]

Im guessing nrg wins the kickoff event, with all the new teams this season they got the chemistry buff

[wheat sinew]

I could see a new roster peaking and crushing though ngl

[fiery elbow]

cough cough vitality cough cough

[humble sparrow]

Vitality is mid stop glazing them

[sick nest]

nope

which is a very silly fun fact

[silent abyss]

Can I pub my e-sport team?

[hexed iris]

Idk tho that stizzy trade looks really good

[molten oxide]

#content-promotion

[signal grail]

Okhalid >>>>> All players

[signal grail]

no he is for falcons

[jovial solar]

??

[gray lynx]

How are we able to post upcoming community tournaments in #tournaments-events ?

[signal grail]

you said this year KC Year, but I think falcons better than Kc in 2025

[candid plover]

What yall think abt the twins and drali tg?

[molten oxide]

Form is pinned in there

[gray lynx]

Thank you

[humble sparrow]

Lemme say my updated best teams and yall says yours

1st nrg , 2nd falcons , 3rd twisted minds , 4th shopfiy rebellion, 5th kc , 6th vitality, 7th mates , 8th Ssg (but ssg have a very high ceiling ) 9th geeky, 10th furia

[jovial solar]

ah alr

[fading prism]

Wait so is the kick off event the top 4 from na and eu after open 1?

[jovial solar]

Top 6

[humble sparrow]

When is open 1

[fiery elbow]

season starts november 14th

[junior arch]

Bro

Who allowed this Twisted Minds team

Who concocted it

This is the most evil team in RLCS history

Straight-up 3 villains in the prime of their villain arc

This gotta be the work of Dr. Doofenschmirtz

[signal grail]

Rise out Twisted minds 🥲💔

[torpid ice]

And they’re still gonna get cooked by falcons

[junior arch]

I mean I could see both winning Falcons for sure gonna be solid but Twisted at their peak can beat them 100%

We'll see how MM looks

[torpid ice]

I did t say twisted won’t beat falcons

They will

But falcons will cook them

And stronger regional practice will only be good for falcons

[jovial solar]

https://x.com/TwisMinds/status/1974149966156173437

TRK is offically on Twisted Minds

This completes their roster being Nwpo, TRK and MonkeyMoon

[wooden thistle]

Unless

[fiery elbow]

wdym unless bruh 🙏 😭

[faint hinge]

dm me to join eu team

[brittle musk]

cheese sosa frosty team?

could cook

[fiery elbow]

vp is gonna pick up this team im calling it

[sleek rune]

who @ me then

[jovial solar]

Not it won’t cook

Only cause of frosty

[stiff tangle]

TRK MM NWPO
Dralii RW9 Kileerz
could mena finally get 2 T4 team at the same lan?

those are both T4 quality teams

can also see either of them reaching finals asw

depends how MM does or if he really is getting washed

[stiff tangle]

aren’t they reported to move to eu? or did i remember wrong

[stiff tangle]

MM will decide if that happens
he plays well, it will probably be 4-3 4-2 most series’ either way

if he plays like he did this season TM will get smoked

also how is MM comming with them
he learning arabic or the others learning english?

ig nwpo and trk both already know basic english but is it enough

[jovial solar]

believe the rumour was look into eu or na

[shell lotus]

😹

yeah no lol

[humble sparrow]

Holy yap @stiff tangle

[signal grail]

TRK to Twisted Minds😳🤯

[alpine solar]

Bro the mercato is in fire

[torpid ice]

I disagree mm is quite solid I think it will depend on how well Nwpo is playing

[torpid ice]

Yes

[stiff tangle]

yea i do that sometimes

[faint hinge]

dm me to join eu team

[restive locust]

Zen is on the M8s stream for the vita vs m8s game lol

[fiery elbow]

wait what

omg i found it

this is so cursed

zen and vatira on the m8 stream watching vit vs m8 in cs2 match with shox

what world are we living in

[peak isle]

yoo

what rank are yall

[restive locust]

nass commenting on m8s win vs vita

bro is going to m8s

[nimble bobcat]

C2

[restive locust]

ssl

[gray lynx]

Thank you

[jovial solar]

the world where zen and vatira on KC next season is possible

[hexed iris]

?? Isn’t zen still on vit with stizzy and exotikk or did I miss something huge?

[silk estuary]

2s diamond tournament anuone

[frosty trench]

There’s a twos diamond tourney?

[silk estuary]

Ur too late now

I just came 2nd

[fiery elbow]

i think he meant next season as in the 2027 season

[jovial solar]

Yeah i did

[subtle juniper]

when is esports decals coming out

?

[alpine solar]

KC should have a decal

[buoyant tiger]

@paper maple Use #content-promotion to promote your team, this channel is for RL Esports discussion only.

[paper maple]

Sorry mb

[fiery elbow]

https://x.com/Tr3bla_/status/1974763902513852928
@restive locust you should coach his new team if he gets one

[restive locust]

Im c1💀

[fiery elbow]

no but you can be like a hype coach

just like zonic

you can scream kom nuuu after every goal

[fiery elbow]

https://x.com/Retals/status/1974839684929904669

retals retired

🫡

[dense spade]

https://imgur.com/7cFGpbk

[hexed iris]

ah

[jovial solar]

FINALLY OMGGGGG IM HAPPY

I mean he’s done so well in his career but it should’ve ended last year

[torpid ice]

Had to get 1 more regional for old times sake

And stop evoh from making lan

[wheat sinew]

Figured he might, glad he finished off with a decent year though

[native flint]

he'll probably go to the RLCS retirement home that is CRL

[nocturne karma]

rip

[steep locust]

Should have ended before making another major and world championship and winning a regional?

Not even dry ice is colder than this take

Honestly he's good enough that he could have kept going if he wanted to, just that he wants to end it on his terms no doubt before the day comes that he does finally fall off for good

[pseudo trail]

Why are there only 3 NA teams and 4 EU teams in the shop?

Are there like no teams now?

Or are not all teams in the shop

[wheat sinew]

I think it’s still last seasons decals, and not many teams agreed to have decals

[alpine solar]

Bro in my dream iv'e seen Atomik and Dralii 😭💀

[fiery elbow]

💀

[jovial solar]

ok?

i just dont believe in retals he was good but his time ended up before he actually retired he just managed to make some suprise performances

[steep locust]

Given at the end of it he has:

• A major victory
• 11 LAN appearances including 3 world championships, 2 of them this year
• 4 RLCS regional victories including an RLCS X Major, 1 of them this year
  Overall makes him easily one of the best NA Rocket League players that haven't won a world championship. And given a lot of these were off the back of surprise performances, it wouldn't do to minimise it.

That's just simply how somebody like Retals must get their results when not playing for the top 2-3 orgs, by pulling off upsets where few else can

[jovial solar]

Yes impressive resume but I just felt he wasn’t willing to change with the meta. I just personally didn’t like RETALS as a pro so I’m happy he’s acc giving his spot to potentially an up and coming talent

[tender terrace]

retals is like dustin porier

[buoyant tiger]

"A major victory" is a bit misleading here

His only international win is a Dreamhack in 2019

The "major" he won during RLCS X was essentially NA Regional 4 with half the teams

[steep locust]

The 2019 Dreamhacks are recognised by everybody as major tournaments. They had all notable international competitors participate in qualifiers plus very strong outsiders, are the biggest international LANs held before or since in terms of competitors with a large prize pool

The Peeps at Montreal played Dignitas, G2 twice, TSM, Mouz and Vitality on their run through, Ghost were also no pushover. I have to be real, they had a harder time than they did at the Season 8 LAN a couple months later

[steep locust]

Retals unwilling to change, having come up at a time when a basic single flip reset shot was still about the height of mechanical ability in RLCS?

It's an impressive resume because he was a player that had to adapt and lead on multiple rosters, sometimes in the middle of a season. And hell, you can thank The Peeps for pretty much mastering the demo heavy playstyle on LAN that Cloud9 had made an attempt at during Season 6 and would be thrown into overdrive over the next two years.

Retals definitely had his time at the forefront of the meta, just doesn't last forever like anybody, and he still adapted more than well enough to maintain a 7 year career near or at the top level of the game

[steep locust]

Also this is just blatantly reductive. He won the Fall RLCS X Major which was a 16 team competition, which is definitely at or slightly above the level of post-COVID regionals.

[buoyant tiger]

RLCS regionals had 32 teams

The NA Major was literally a regional without stage 1

Although I will admit DH Montreal was bigger than I remembered and I agree to count it as a Major tournament

Whatever happened during RLCS X was definitely not one though

[steep locust]

So it means less because Spacestation wasn't required to bulldoze through teams that in any other era are closed qualifier teams for a fourth time?

[buoyant tiger]

It means less because it's a regional and they decided to call it a major

[steep locust]

I feel like the first three times may have proven the point

Notice how I didn't classify it as a major tournament

[buoyant tiger]

It being NA-only purely disqualifies it

[steep locust]

I called it a regional

Its named as an RLCS X Major, I felt like that anybody reading that knowing the context would know that it is distinct from real majors but is at least a little bit above regular regionals during that season

And at either rate is moot because it counts as a regional victory

[buoyant tiger]

Sure, still is a regional which is the point I made at first

Seeing it's the only S-tier 1st place on his resume

[steep locust]

That's on Liquipedia for miscategorising the event, they're A+ events to me

In their own category in a time that won't happen again

None of the Dreamhacks being S-Tier, but CRL Worlds getting S-Tier despite having a smaller prize pool, worse international representation and a lower relative skill is one interesting quirk

[dense spade]

Liquipedia tiers should be disregarded above b tier imo, the qualifications for a/s have always been skewed incredibly heavy towards rlcs and leaves other tournaments looking like small sunday leagues in comparison

[wheat sinew]

I get that this guys a big Retals fan, and he’s had some good longevity for qualifying for LANs, but it’s a little disingenuous to say he wasn’t having lower performances the last years

I mean Dreamhack was more than half a decade ago, and his best LANs in RLCS internationally were with SSG and topped out at 3rd, 5-6th and 5-6th. And those were also in 2021-2022 season, more than three full RLCS seasons in the past.

Of course you gotta agree that he’s brought a lot to some of his rosters, and really stepped up in some big moments to pull off upsets (mostly against firstkiller’s teams 😂). Glad he made another two out of the three LANs this year but I think it’s the right decision to cap it off after a few decent performances

[steep locust]

Definitely wouldn't say I'm a major Retals fan, just that anybody with a long career with great results should be given their correct praise instead of people finding reasons to minimise it just because they haven't won a world championship (which makes up the vast majority of great RLCS players over the years)

Rocket League is a tough gig and is often more defined by who you happen to team with than your own individual ability once you start reaching into the top 8 teams in the world, topping out as a major winner and multiple top 8 RLCS results is very solid, especially with the frankly limited options NA often coughs up for anybody below the top 2 seeds

[frail sand]

he

[fiery elbow]

zen, vatira and exotiik (juicy sub) are representing france for fifae 2025

[jovial solar]

Time for France to go out in groups

[fiery elbow]

exotiik isnt that bad bro 😭

[torpid ice]

He said his retirement is not because of results but because he doesn’t enjoy competing anymore that’s literally all there is to it

If ex falcons get back together for FIFAe I don’t know if France makes finals again

USA might be capable of beating this France squad

[wheat sinew]

SR fans are so up rn

i’m absolutely dripped out in shopify rebellion merch.

[hasty eagle]

@proud whale please use #looking-for-group if you need any teammate/s

Then misunderstood, sorry. You can find clubs in #content-promotion

[steep locust]

USA should be just the NRG roster so honestly should be decent favourites for that matchup

[wheat sinew]

If USA send NRG as I think satthew alluded they will, they’d likely be favorites to win, given that they’re a complete roster that has a ton of experience at LANs together

The complete teams like NRG Falcons(assuming they send twins+trk) and Furia will likely have an advantage, the other teams like France England Denmark are really stacked though as well

[buoyant tiger]

I remember Rawgreg saying USA wouldn't even field a team for this year's FIFAe, did we get other news since?

[wooden thistle]

Yes

They will send a team now

[jovial solar]

problem with england though is that we have good players just doesnt work and bottle it.

[brittle musk]

Sadjunior coaching tm? Okay

[thorny sundial]

https://x.com/ShiftRLE/status/1975901493699178974

[buoyant tiger]

https://x.com/ShiftRLE/status/1975901493699178974

Shift (@ShiftRLE)

.@Sadjuni0r will be the @TwisMinds coach for the #RLCS 2026 Season.

@achilles_XF reporting.

X · Oct 8, 2025, 12:30 PM

there you go

[fiery elbow]

uhhh, what?

[brittle musk]

2 mena, 1 eu, 1 na coach

Funny team

[fiery elbow]

always twisted minds with the most random teams

[jovial solar]

damn very interesting

[woeful shadow]

for rocket league*

[fiery elbow]

some time in december like last year

although there is gonna be a fifae european regional in late october i think

[jovial solar]

if fk was gonna be there he wouldve teammed with bmode and daniel ages ago. so its not happened so why for this one off thing

[jovial solar]

no what im saying is. if that team was actually going to work it would already be happening.

but it isnt cause NRG2 is just so much better

[daring aurora]

Falcons Twisted Minds Shopify Rebellion NRG Vitality KC M8 Alpine Furia

[steep locust]

Atomic is literally the best NA player of all time at this point, 3 RLCS LAN victories is matched by nobody, and I believe the old C9 roster is the only team to exceed him in overall international LAN victories with their NARLI and Dreamhack wins additional to their worlds win (and are probably a close third for best roster of all time behind GFE/Dignitas and the current G2/NRG roster)

Meanwhile Firstkiller is basically the embodiment of choking and was way too trigger-happy on his roster moves plus being an all-round unlikeable guy earlier on in his career that no doubt limited some of his options for success.

NRG are all better than him individually, and I'd probably put another couple players above him too. And regardless, you simply don't break up a world champion team. Because that'd be a Firstkiller move, and I'd hope NRG would be smarter than that

[hexed iris]

What happened early in fks career?

[steep locust]

He was extremely toxic before he was old enough to play RLCS, like think old ScrubKilla except somehow turned up higher

[hexed iris]

Damn

[steep locust]

Difference being he wasn't the generational prodigy Scrub was so it probably spoiled his chance to get on a big team early and so he had to keep building rosters around him with lower tier players instead

[hexed iris]

Ah

[steep locust]

Plus he had his father hovering over him for a while who seemed to be a major negative presence for him

That has all gone away now but the consequences do still remain, ie not being able to get onto NRG's roster, not winning a single LAN despite being one of the few pre-COVID players left

[hexed iris]

Doesn’t he still?

[steep locust]

Bloody Retals has a major victory and he doesnt XD

[steep locust]

Not from what I know, certainly not to the extent he was a few years back

Like he was straight up harassing players back then

[hexed iris]

Ah. I thought he did the contract negotiations this offseason

[valid yarrow]

Can we all agree Comm on Version 1 was the most annoying pro ever lol

[steep locust]

This year is the strongest case against Firstkiller, just thought some context on why Firstkiller is basically never getting onto the US roster would be handy

Maybe marginally on an individual basis but frankly individual freak players are dime-a-dozen, there's a reason why we put MonkeyMoon and Turbopolsa on the GOAT conversation despite neither of them exactly being full of flash and not doing the majority of the work on their teams.

And it's always been FK's weakness that he cannot play nice with his teammates on too often of an occasion

He did then, and then they got rolled anyway by a team that doesn't just part-time that stuff like Ultimates do

And again at worlds

Oh I fully expect Rebellion to be in the mix, but it doesn't strike me as the team that will suddenly deliver FK the title he's been looking for

Let alone overtake NRG in a meaningful way

It's not impossible if they pull off the perfect game, but perfect and FK have literally never mixed on LAN when it actually mattered

He had his one real shot back a few years back with Faze and chucked it away while trying to be the hero

Who knew that Mist was a better defender than him

Certainly not FK it seems

Falcons have sidegraded if not had a minor upgrade, NRG will not be weaker short of internal issues, Twisted Minds should be a legitimate threat, Karmine Corp will no doubt have a good team together for 2026 and can't forget the likes of Wildcard either who seem to have their form back

Rebellion have far from a clear shot at a title, they need to just make the final first

And then see if they don't get obliterated again

Maybe but it's not worth speculating on given how good of a player Dralii is

It doesn't smell of a superteam collapse like Vitality was this season

I think anybody who watched them play can recognise that they played top 4 quality gameplay, nobody will be underestimating them going into the next major

I don't necessarily think they can replicate what they did so easily without the shock factor but they are a threat

We don't know KC's third yet so who knows

I mean NRG's playstyle was figured out in the end of 2024, then they turned it around

And it doesn't really matter if it was "figured out" if you just can't stop them

This isn't like the G2 days where they turtled up a lot and so could be cracked with enough pressure

The ball is entirely in NRG's court, they are the best team in the world and have if not the best playstyle then the most consistently applied on LAN

[hexed iris]

SR is decent but they just arent there in NA. its still a really topheavy region, NRG is really the only team thats gonna do anything significant on the regional level im betting

hey now

[steep locust]

Game 7 isn't a win

And that's the point really, Ultimates were a team that was volatile and while could turn it up could never sustain it for long

And it would often not be enough even when they did

I don't see Rebellion being any different. They may pinch a couple regionals but hard to see where the difference will come at LANs

[wheat hamlet]

fk is ass

lj carried ultimates this ssn

yeah i did my favorite part was when FK choked when it mattered and LJ was playing like his life depended on it. story of FKs career. always absent when it matters

idgaf about his regular ssn stats he's ass. he hasn't won. period

[steep locust]

Well at least until he throws when he plays Zen lmao

[wheat hamlet]

W take zen is fraudulent

[steep locust]

I don't I just majorly question Kofyr's resolve in the high presssure moments

And whether he truly will take the situation seriously

Because SSG had a really poor team culture I have to be real

[wheat hamlet]

zen is fraudulent. thats why he loses. he plays like its 1v3. will spend 140 boost to solo over one defender and 50 second instead of 30 to pass and score

[steep locust]

It was like V1 except with no Torment type to level them out

[wheat hamlet]

lmao i wonder if u realize this chat isnt your karen mom and we dont care ab ur opinions

yeah ur 14 and braindead confirmed

average FK fan lmao

zen ass FK ass cope and seethe

the world champs? why would that be a bad stance

who are the standing world champions

L

also an L deflection. FK is ass you still have no actual argument made besides telling people they dont watch rlcs (they d)

[steep locust]

https://tenor.com/view/duck-it-is-pointless-duck-it-is-pointless-pointless-gif-25302133

[wheat hamlet]

https://tenor.com/view/nerd-gif-5113148028740788118

huh that's weird when i look at liquipedia i see falcons NRG in grand finals... and vitality didnt make top 8?

how can that be

zen sucks stay mad

https://tenor.com/view/flight-reacts-laughing-rage-bait-gif-8366393814504091925

[steep locust]

https://tenor.com/view/asdf-asdfmovie-button-pointless-nothing-gif-13438537

NRG 4-1

I mean let's face it, Vitality might struggle just to make majors next season, it is going to be stacked

They might get in at No. 3 or 4

They need to get to top 8 first of all let alone beat NRG

Or any real contender

Getting sniped by the EU LCQ qualification isn't exactly a big rubber stamp of approval on their ability

We'll see, ultimately they couldn't win a single regional and took soft losses at the wrong time, even with MM gone, Zen isn't the best player in the world anymore as far as RLCS is concerned and Exotiik hasn't exactly been confidence inspiring

[steep locust]

KC 4-2

[steep locust]

Power ranking them rn I'd go Beastmode > Atomic > Daniel > Kofyr > Firstkiller > LJ > Cheese > Reveal

You can chop and change any of NRG on any given day tbh

I think Reveal had an invisible performance at worlds, Scrzbbles would be 8th if he didn't retire

I can't look past the fact of SSG choking to Vitality again and Atomic beating FK to both another title and in a straight up matchup to justify that

It's not like NRG are miles ahead as players but they have the edge

I'm power ranking based off the worlds performance which is ultimately all that is relevant rn

Rise

[steep locust]

That's playoffs only (where Kofyr went 1-4 and FK 3-8 in games)

To say the least when you're getting smashed around the place and getting forced to make a lot of saves, you'll rack up the score

To nobody's surprise Kofyr and FK were the top 2 on saves per game

Again vastly skewed by their teams having a poor performance in the playoffs

Farming saves has always been the best way to top Score Per Game stats in single tournaments

It is for a team that made a major final and went on to get swept out of the tournament

They wouldn't have made it to Game 7 if he actually was

In other metrics:
Goals: Kofyr 3rd, FK 10th
Assists: Kofyr 36th, FK 22nd
Shots: Kofyr 14th, FK 12th
Shooting%: Kofyr 16th, FK 21st
Goal Participation: Kofyr 24th, FK 23rd

[buoyant tiger]

You gotta compare opponents though

FK did that against KC (twice) and NRG

[jovial solar]

what im getting from this is the amount of fk glaze lmao

fk isnt the lord and saviour

i think people are overestimating SR

yes fk and kofyr can be amazing but we have seen time and time again that fk can do well initally but still get close to a major and bottle. and with lj i think he is just too inconsistent and cant provide a great player that fk needs to be on top form every match.

wait hold on why tf is rise in this list bruh

yes i do but dont put rise in that list. i love rise and im a rise glazer but if your talking about NA you talk about NA talent as thats what the convo started as

i do and him and chronic were the main reasons why Ult failed last season, now they have got rid of one of the liabilties i wouldnt be suprised if the same thing happens this season

which vitality

NRG

im dumb but not on this

if vitality would win why tf are they 9-12

I have no clue cause I go by teams

[fiery elbow]

i dont think its possible to name 8 good na players

[jovial solar]

As I’ve said I know. 😭

[fiery elbow]

bro said diaz and rise 😭

[jovial solar]

Also if you actually checked this chat often during the season you’ll see we both clearly watch rl

[fiery elbow]

last time i checked, diaz and rise arent north american

[jovial solar]

Diaz I’ll give but rise is good. But shouldn’t be in the list anyway

Diaz is on a slight leeway in saying he’s in NA

Yeah they aren’t.

[steep locust]

https://tenor.com/view/ferris-bueller-ferris-buellers-day-off-matthew-broderick-john-hughes-80s-gif-21664428

[jovial solar]

There are easily 8 teams better than that SSG squad

And I’m not rage baiting your just too blind to see

KC, NRG, SR, Falcons, TM, Furia, VIT, M8

Brother Furia are good and they adding Swift so like

[fiery elbow]

0 ball knowledge

[jovial solar]

Yes Yan has had not impressive performances recently but he’s still good

[steep locust]

Brother's been actually arguing for nearly 7 hours straight about this stuff lol

[jovial solar]

He’s been saying that we don’t watch rl

[steep locust]

Like I played some RL, had my dinner, talked to people, came back and they're still here

The grass beckons to be touched

It's starved of your hands

[fiery elbow]

you know its pretty impressive how much time you waste here talking about nonsense timmy

[jovial solar]

SSG are clearly a 9-11/12 team

[fiery elbow]

talking about sum ssg is top 8 and better than furia

[jovial solar]

Bro SSG are worse than APAC

[fiery elbow]

sphinx will humble ssg

[jovial solar]

Exacltyyyy

Yes Reveal, Chronic, Diaz

[jovial solar]

Also this took like 10 seconds without thinking and I could add a few more so saying 9-11/12 is generous

Plus they only make majors cause NA depth isn’t there

[jovial solar]

idk why you are so stubborn we are genuienlly trying to have a civil conversation but you try to insult us.

[lime field]

as a diehard na fan rise shouldnt be on this list because he hasnt played in na yet, diaz and jstn are eh

diaz is a terrible 3s player and constantly changes his playstyle like every game, and jstn is just so underwhelming, same with mb

mb was above avg and jstn was avg when it comes to lan performances, and diaz may not be terrible at 3s, he is just bad

he is the equivalent of putting mawkzy on a 3s team, he just has a couple years more experience

[fiery elbow]

watching diaz play in 1v1 vs watching him play in 3v3, it feels like watching a completely different player

he is still on fraud watch

[fiery elbow]

so you are saying diaz is terrible

[elder coral]

Yall better watch adelaide open november 1st cuz I'm taking the win

[fiery elbow]

mhm

[fiery elbow]

appjack and seikoo to geekay official https://x.com/GeekayRL/status/1976331826085183520

guess im a geekay fan now 🤷

[dense spade]

Yeah how dare you like a player that hasn't won worlds, haven't you heard they're bad??

[hexed iris]

LMAOOO

[jovial solar]

Geekay going all the way. GEEKAY EU2

[wheat hamlet]

damn bro 24 hours later this little mommas boy still in here malding lmao

[ancient forum]

CRLS gon be fun 🙏🙏🙏🙏🙏

[fleet crystal]

Am I a wrongen for just supporting whatever team appjack plays for

I need geekay to get a spot in the item shop got the dig car for nothing 😣

[wheat sinew]

Na jack's a valid player to be a fan of

[quartz burrow]

w

[fiery elbow]

who is eu1

[jovial solar]

KC

[thorny sundial]

Vita has been bad all season, but I have a feeling that they're definetly top2 rn. I have nothing to back that statement, given the poor performances of DIG and Vita at worlds, but this roster feels different.

[fiery elbow]

https://x.com/ShiftRLE/status/1976664026274050258

this roster could cook lowkey

eu is gonna be so stacked

also coach lbp

[hexed iris]

Damn

EU is such a wild region

[ancient forum]

Is there another team joining the rlcs roster?

[wheat sinew]

yeah, i could also see them not doing too hot though

[harsh sky]

zen

[wheat sinew]

All of EU top 10 next year is looking like they could battle for NAs LAN spots lmao

[torpid oyster]

VITALITY eeeeeeeeeeeeeem idk💀

[jovial solar]

like EU 5-8 would easily get NA top 4 ahead of SSG and GenG whereas NRG and SR would be a proper challenge

[wise obsidian]

[jovial solar]

Jourez, Olay, CRR
Yujin, Rado, Mtzr
Aztral, Rust ez95, Mozzerlla
Atomik, Tox, Rezears

I think they would actually take the spots away from SSG and GenG

[torpid ice]

Yujin MtzR Rado, Joreuz Oaly crr, Rezears Atomik Tox, TempoH accro ejby,

And 1 more

There are only four spots in na

Meaning only 2 of the teams he stated need to be competitive

U are commenting on the worst of the teams he named

Therefore dodging the statement

Also we have seen none of these teams play so this whole thing is pointless

Eu is better than na just shut up already

Again u have not seen ssg play

Again we have seen none of these teams play

My team is falcons I don’t need to cope

U are arguing over a fictional scenario

And getting angry for no reason

[jovial solar]

the studio LAN will hopefully tell us a lot about NA vs EU

i said that NRG and shop would stay but better than KC yeah nah, NRG maybe but i dont think SR are

yeah

i can see that may be a fair assessment

i disagree but i understand where your coming from. their ceilings are very close to each other

ok idk what you are thinking here like what

they would probably go 1-3 in swiss if their lucky to get 1 series

[jovial solar]

why do you think everything is ragebait?

[jovial solar]

your take is 1000x worse than mine

[torpid ice]

The whole na vs eu thing is tired. Ppl keep the narrative going even when falcons out perform both of them. It’s not as simple as na vs eu anymore Mena is firmly in the equation

[torpid ice]

This guy is just rage bait incarnate just stop engaging with him

[molten oxide]

what is bro yapping about

[torpid ice]

Fr

If nobody responds to him I bet he will just go away

Just excommunicate bro

Bro this is another level of sadness

U need help fr

And he’s gone

Ggs

Didn’t last long at all

[fiery elbow]

finally we have peace

[jovial solar]

omg yes finally.

but noo all the messages are gone

[jovial solar]

i dont think MENA are. Falcons are. once TM can prove themselves then we can talk about MENA as a region but for now its just Falcons

[jovial solar]

i mean it means i can waste my time and procrastinate so ill take it

[torpid ice]

Twisted at minimum are a top 8 team imo

I just don’t see TRK missing top 8s

[jovial solar]

^

[torpid ice]

Yh but at the end of the day it’s TRK

That guy was talking about sr being better than KC without seeing either of them play

Saying twisted is top 8 isn’t really a hot take I feel like

Genuinely which 8 teams are better than them

[jovial solar]

i know was just using your own words against you but i see where your getting at

[novel basin]

lowkey i could play for nrg

totally

[fading cradle]

Falcons is top 3 in rlbs , prove me wrong

[sudden gazelle]

rlbs

falcons won rlcs btw

like next rlcs they won

oh they also won Raleigh too but that doesn’t count

#falconswonnextrlcs

[inland bison]

yo who wanna do comp im diomond rn but peak gc 2

[torpid oyster]

Me

[novel flare]

Wildcard is probably gonna stick together
https://x.com/ShiftRLE/status/1976710573049233669

Happy days

[wheat sinew]

BananaGOAT

[wheat hamlet]

Aw man did lil Timmy get booted

He was fun to instigate

[wheat hamlet]

Agree. Mm is going to go on a zen hate revenge arc and play really well this year

Trk will have a chip on his shoulder too

[lime field]

forgetting a huge team smh

app jack seikoo joyo

i see them as eu 3 probably

[jovial solar]

It was eu5-8

[lime field]

oh

my fault gangalicious

the only time i dont read the context

[wheat sinew]

Next season is gonna be really interesting

There’s a few really good teams based on expectations (Falcons, NRG, KC even) and a whole lot of teams that could easily elevate to the top

TM, Vit, M8s, Shop, GK, Furia, and many other unsigned teams, and I’m sure I’m forgetting some as well

[fiery elbow]

wildcard 😈

[wheat sinew]

How could I

I want to see Jimmah and the lads shaking hands over a trophy

[jovial solar]

i mean the context kinda got removed so its fine

[velvet quail]

zen

[placid sandal]

Falcons rule

[silver ocean]

yo who wanna run sum comp 2s either plat 2 or above doesn’t have to have a mic it rlly doesn’t matter?

[inland bison]

who wanna do dimond rank i hang with champs

[inland bison]

who wanna run comp 2 s

im peak gc2

rn im plat 3 on my new account

[faint hinge]

dm me to join eu team

[stiff tangle]

Ferra retiring????

whose gonna coach KC then?

oh wait i just saw

so KC is gonna be
Vati
Atow
Juicy
Extra

[wheat sinew]

What

This gotta be bait

Whaaaaat whyyy hes the goat coach bruv

[delicate narwhal]

if anyone can help me with my esport team please dm me!

[wheat sinew]

Ferra promotion to a coach of coaches is kinda awesome to see, sad that he didn’t get another worlds win with so many good seasons

[jovial solar]

here we go, kc never winning worlds

[hexed iris]

wait thats so sad

he is one of the greatest coaches this game has ever seen

[wheat sinew]

If KC/Vati never win worlds, would it be the greatest Org/Player to never win the title?

I’m not sure who else has better results, as an org and as a player, without a championship

[wheat hamlet]

Ye sad tbh. I want vati to get one so long as it’s not KC vs nrg finals

[fiery elbow]

no ferra coach 😢

[buoyant tiger]

I don't think it's close

[wheat sinew]

G2 had longevity, and I guess what 2 major wins and runners up a few times

It’s not too crazily different from KC, it’s a shame they dropped out of the esport right before their team won lmao

[buoyant tiger]

Insane longevity, 3 world championship grand finals, 2 open era Majors, several NA championships, 2017 ELeague

[wooden thistle]

Big difference would be making worlds grand finals

[buoyant tiger]

^ KC good team to have never won worlds but never made finals either

[fiery elbow]

coupe de france slash tommorow 🥳

[ionic flare]

W speed

[jovial solar]

cant wait for VIT to be absolutely shocking and not make finals

[wheat sinew]

Who in it?

[fiery elbow]

6 teams are playing

the 4 most notable ones are kc, vitality, gentle mates and yujins team

the other two teams are mayko, mimillo sama and pluvo
ejby, accroh and tempoh

[wheat sinew]

Is Yujin with Rado? I’m getting my teams confused

[fiery elbow]

yeah yujin, rado and mtzr

[wheat sinew]

Banger though they probs won’t do too well

Really curious how the top teams are looking before heading into RLCS

[fiery elbow]

brooo whats with the rado hate

[wheat sinew]

wym

I love Rado I think he’s great and an awesome character too but it’s hard to rate the team higher than some other ones is all

[restive locust]

1 month to rlcs

[jovial solar]

top 4 get through so my guess is kc vit m8s and yujin,rado,mtzr

[wheat sinew]

I think I’d pick GK over yujinradomtzr currently

In terms of headed into next season

But yeah they should be a lock for top 4 at the French thing

[jovial solar]

oh yeah in actual rlcs its gonna be really tight for who gets that 4th spot but GK are the favourites for it

[torpid ice]

U are underestimating 2d1b

Will be close between those 2

[jovial solar]

I’m perfectly estimating them.

[shrewd dawn]

How does one even play to get into something like RLCS?

[wooden thistle]

Play the game until you are good enough, find a team, sign up and qualify

[jovial solar]

You sign up for tournament

[hasty eagle]

@torpid oyster you can find a team in #content-promotion or #looking-for-group to look for a teammates.

@lucid glacier @untold ginkgo Please use #content-promotion to promote your club/team.

[torpid ice]

Well they just took KC and M8s to 5

2d1b will play impossible tomorrow

I predict 2d1b 3-2 impossible

Then maybe it goes the other way the next time they play

[jovial solar]

True it’s definitely going to be close

[limpid jewel]

cant wait for VIT to be absolutely shocking and not make finals

[buoyant mountain]

i hope they make it!

[jovial solar]

i still think they will make it but not look too pretty doing so

[buoyant mountain]

yh

[native flint]

FIFAe qualifiers start today (to see which nations are going)

[torpid ice]

Australia and Malaysia are dominating

[waxen atlas]

Yo when I make it to the rlcs worlds what celebration should I do when I win

[orchid yarrow]

griddy

[eternal onyx]

Hello everyone im new to the server

[torpid ice]

Australia and Malaysia are dominating

[jovial solar]

Already said it

[steel tusk]

algum br aqui?

[last plover]

Hi

[waxen atlas]

Bet

[orchid yarrow]

hehe boi

[wheat sinew]

I’m not too high on the new Vit roster

It’d be a big surprise to me if they aren’t the least consistent of the top teams

[wheat sinew]

If anyone is watching Coupe de France, this OT has been crazy

[blissful token]

Ik bro

[still wasp]

un folnite

???

[limpid jewel]

I’m perfectly estimating them.

[fiery elbow]

the last time vitality beat kc was in the 2022-2023 world championship semifinal

[thorny sundial]

"2033" crazy

[fiery elbow]

yeah bro you didnt know rocket league has 11 year seasons now?

[teal lagoon]

i hope they make it!

[fiery elbow]

new mid team just dropped https://x.com/ShiftRLE/status/1979242254662537684

[wheat sinew]

The real test of if NA is washed

[fiery elbow]

the curse is over... vitality finally beat kc

noone beats vitality 13 times in a row

[dense spade]

bro switched to jL fanboy

game's gone

[fiery elbow]

i miss him 😓

he is my fellow countryman after all

[wraith condor]

so imma start getting into rlcs ( i dont rlly enjoy watching esports of games i play) but idk a team that i should like/ watch. Any opinions on teams?

[hexed iris]

Vitality is really fun to watch, and not just if your from Europe (I’m from US and I think it’s the most interesting team to watch.) Crazy high highs and kinda bottomless lows but super talented and good history. Other teams are fine too tho

[steep locust]

I'd advise to wait until the season starts next month, see if you like any particular players and go from there

I do warn you about Vitality though, they're basically the F1 Ferrari team if they were in Rocket League, a big team with a storied history of great players coming through the roster that experiences rare success followed by long droughts of pain despite the amount of money they throw around

So don't be baited by @hexed iris hopeful description too much haha

[hexed iris]

Ha

[wheat sinew]

Vit finally beating KC makes me optimistic

[limpid jewel]

un folnite

[teal lagoon]

game's gone

[restive locust]

Weren’t you from Norway?

[fiery elbow]

i live in norway

but i was born in lithuania

im from the same city as jl actually

kaunas

[turbid knoll]

THE KC'S 13 STREAK AGAINST VITALITY IS NOW OVER

after 2 years they've finally beat them 😭 💀

[pseudo snow]

i like this but what would other comparissons be to f1?

[steep locust]

Torsos is Fernando Alonso

It is very appropriate that Gentle Mates are sponsored by Alpine given their latest track record

Firstkiller is definitely Charles Leclerc

[graceful nebula]

pls kc decal

[spiral shuttle]

@steep locust f1 fan?

[hasty eagle]

@sick onyx Promote your club/team in #content-promotion only.

[dense spade]

https://x.com/RLEsports/status/1979595685113565498

Rocket League Esports (@RLEsports)

‼️ To satisfy the returning Majority Residency Roster Restriction, you need to be one of the following:

Holding citizenship
Holding permanent/long term legal residency
Maintaining in-person education within that Region
Maintaining a work placement within that Region

X · Oct 18, 2025, 5:09 PM

[jovial solar]

That’s fair

[wheat sinew]

And instantly KC are washed

Losing to Archibald again

[sour trail]

anyone know what happened to the old ssg squad? daniel arsenal and retals? how come they split up

[wooden thistle]

Did you just wake up from a coma

[unique swallow]

Arsenal didn’t fist bump retals at worlds in the 21-22 season but idk the complete reason

[steep locust]

Ye

[sour trail]

oh

[dense spade]

eh, they figured things out anyway

[unique swallow]

True but retals didn’t find a huge success ngl

[dense spade]

not this conversation again

[wheat sinew]

😂

[jovial lotus]

when is next rlcs match

[lofty plume]

EU is going to be fun

KC VIT and M8 look amazing

nass is amazing holy moly

[torpid ice]

Yessir

M8s is my favourite eu team

Just hope falcons can beat all of them tho

[lofty plume]

Well I genuinely think TRK was the machine and the person who held the team together we will see how they do with dralli

[torpid ice]

He was but they can build a new system

[wheat sinew]

Morocco at FifaE might be kinda cracked, Nass and Dralii have looked so good lately

No itachi is so sad :(

[limpid jewel]

he is my fellow countryman after all

[teal lagoon]

but i was born in lithuania

[fiery elbow]

the danes are so good

[restive locust]

Fr

[torpid ice]

Nah they won’t be

They’ll be top 8 but Skyrix is a bubble player

U can only get so far with him

I think they’ll lose in quarters

[torpid ice]

#2D1Believer

Really wish Denmark played in FIFAe

Nico TempoH ejby would be insane

Maybe next yr in the tourney without the FAs

[fiery elbow]

i wouldve loved to see denmark

at fifae

wouldve been one of the better teams attending

[restive locust]

Fr

[jovial solar]

i mean considering Oman has made the actual finals yeah

[fiery elbow]

we have oman at fifae but no denmark

[tropic cargo]

hi

[torpid ice]

I think Asia west should be removed as a region next yr

3 countries didn’t show up

The other 3 suck

They’ll probably score 10 goals total in the lan

[fiery elbow]

maybe 11 if we are being generous

[jovial solar]

should just be asia

well acc tbf thats saudi region but they got in for free

[hasty eagle]

@devout marlin Hey, please use #looking-for-group to look for a teammate.

[devout marlin]

No I Search e sport teammate

Not to queue

Can I not use this then?

[dense spade]

no

[oblique ice]

Read the channel description

[hexed iris]

hey all

im trying to remember the name of a player

eu bubble pro, i want to say he was from denmark or vicinity

did really well in a 1v1 rlcs thing a while back which was surprising because he wasnt ranked that highly

like top 1k or something

uhm and he did twitch and had good taste in music

lol idk but if anyone knows who im talking about id really appreciate it

tysm

nvm i found it

tr3bla

anyone know what happened to him? i feel like he was big for a few weeks and then ive not heard about him since

[steep locust]

I mean he came Top 6 in that RLCS 1v1 qualifier off the back of qualifying lower bracket in the double elim stage, going 3-2 in Swiss with no notable victories, shocking Joreuz in Game 5 and then being trashed 3 times in a row to be eliminated.

[hexed iris]

fair enough

[steep locust]

It's not like it was a bad result for Tr3bla but going 5-5 and still being top 6 won't feel entirely earned, just a quirk of the bracket they ran

[hexed iris]

yeah thats fair

but has he stopped playing or at least is no longer grinding to that extent? or has he just not had any significant finishes since?

[steep locust]

Especially as the bracket allowed him to lose to Dralii 3-0 in groups and still start the final playoff stage with a guaranteed top 6

[steep locust]

He still obviously grinds, it's just that he is a middling player in 1s especially.

[hexed iris]

maybe a BIT excessive but also its dralii he was guaranteed to lose lol

[steep locust]

And in 3s he appears to only play with other Danish players or only attract lower tier international teammates, which to say the least the talent pool there is very shallow

[hexed iris]

alr ty

[steep locust]

Unless you're French or American you are not getting away with single-nation teams 99% of the time now in NA/EU and getting good results, and he doesn't seem to have the pull otherwise

[fiery elbow]

albert cornelius goat

[torpid ice]

He’s been playing 3s in the bubble. Surprised he doesn’t want to play on Feer’s channel though

[thorny sundial]

idk about NA, they have realistically 1 LAN team. The rest are meh.

[restive locust]

Bro is forgetting about the literal best country for rlcs💀

Denmark 🇩🇰

[cobalt dawn]

yo

[torpid oyster]

wsp

[torpid pawn]

5 inch BONAAAA

Uk or saudia lil bro uk we daniel saudia ariba got fuggin dark rw9

[torpid pawn]

Wrong

mi bomboclat i cant score resets anymore FFS

[balmy ivy]

We are going to see those three teams getting at least a regional each imo

Finally EU regionals won’t be too easy to predict

[royal turret]

Hi

[jovial solar]

i disagree on the fact vitality wont win a regional

[torpid ice]

Wait u think vitality will or won’t win a regional?

[jovial solar]

Won’t win

[hexed iris]

i think VIT is almost certainly getting a regional

and I would be willing to bet on at least a LAN grand final

[steep locust]

I won't talk in certainties with Vitality, watching them repeatedly crash and burn this year is enough for me there

I won't be expecting anything beyond top 4 at regionals until I see it for myself

Let alone a LAN grand final which even with their roster is unlikely

[jovial solar]

VITs cieling is GF in Regionals and Top 6 Majors but thats if exotiik can play well again.

[hexed iris]

Fair enough

I have high hopes tho for stizzy

That roster just works so well

Exotiik is the weak link if anything but it’s such a strong team overall

And it’s better than KC anyway so I’m happy

[steep locust]

It's a big call to say they're clearly better than KC, a 3-2 online win doesn't really vindicate one of the most one-sided matchups of two top orgs in history over the last 2 years

The French LAN should tell all but there's no way they won't be beat by KC at points in the season, if not it eventually return to status quo

[balmy ivy]

I got excited seeing gentlemates take #1 seed for the LAN of this tournament, all three players looked insane

And honestly all three top EU teams look strong but are missing a slight edge over Falcons, NRG and even maybe TM

[steep locust]

Twisted Minds are going to be solid but I'm very cautious about putting them further than top 6 right now

Any team MM gets on only seems to get increasingly volatile and I could easily see the dips coming at the worst time

And they will come, just whether it means getting beat down on by Falcons in regionals or finishing top 8 or worse at a LAN again. Not a team I look at to be sustaining top level performance over a whole season

[jovial solar]

I feel as if people are really underestimating mm. Yes he had a poorer season to what he’s used to but he’s still good. I feel most of VITs issues was exotiik that exacerbated how bad mm looked

[turbid sinew]

wait till Vati breaks his worlds curse by bombing out in the first major and then doing a Monkey Moon by peaking out of nowhere at worlds

[frail harbor]

hi guys im the best esport player trust

[wheat sinew]

Vati gotta lose major 2 to go on a revenge arc for worlds

Real talk if Vati were to have a solid season, maybe a regional win or two, top 4 at a LAN, and win Worlds, would he be in the greatest of open era conversation?

[jovial solar]

Yes

The only thing not making him in the conversation really is no worlds

[ember smelt]

If he wins worlds he’s in the conversation yes. If he doesn’t. Then he’s not

[wheat sinew]

It’s funny he’s 3rd on Liquipedia player earnings with best worlds finish of top 4 unless I’m mistaken

[rain ginkgo]

did they find zen yet?

[wheat sinew]

He’s the only one in the top 10 player earnings who hasn’t been in a grand finals of a world championship, which is pretty surprising. Yanxnz in 11th would be the next highest earner to share that statistic

[astral crow]

anyone know if any pros quit or retired recently?

[steep locust]

Retals was probably the biggest retirement of the post-season

Scrxbbles also retiring, nothing that incredibly notable from EU though

[astral crow]

thanks, appreciate it

[steep locust]

Yeah only other retirement I can find is yanD from Brazil who was a top 8-ish SAM player

[steep locust]

He's definitely still good but the fact is that basically nobody recovers back to the top after suffering a big losing streak

Without an amazing recovery, Twisted Minds is likely to be MonkeyMoon's final competitive LAN team

[jovial solar]

probably but its hard to get any better than 2x worlds champ

[steep locust]

It's hard but no regionals and no LAN finals in that period with Vitality is telling

Given MM is almost certainly going to be the first one out the door when Twisted Minds feel like a shakeup regardless, he will need some incredible results to convince a top 5-6 EU team to take him in again, it's a gamble

Unlike, say, 3 years ago the queue to replace his spot in that sort of team is quite long now

[wheat sinew]

What as this guy cooking

[torpid ice]

Itachi

[sick nest]

hard to be one of the greatest without a worlds title

[sick nest]

next season will be his last if i had to predict

[steep locust]

He seems to be one that will try to cling on I think, much like Kaydop

He has just moved to a Saudi team after all to avoid having to engage in a struggle to be maybe EU 3 or 4 at best at a LAN

[wheat sinew]

I think he’s said he’ll keep playing as long as he thinks he can win

[jovial solar]

He didn’t have much choice on what else to do though

[wheat sinew]

TM supposedly doesn’t have infinite money (unlike falcons) and I think he took a lower salary than a EU offer to join TRK and NWPO

I might be getting it mixed up though because I definitely know TRK511 was offered higher in EU but chose to go TM

[torpid ice]

Doubt it. I would’ve agreed if he wasn’t going to twisted but I think he will want to play his last season in eu

[torpid ice]

He moved to Saudi because twisted were the only org who would pay his buyout otherwise he wouldn’t have played this season

[torpid ice]

Yh he did say that

[torpid ice]

They offered mm a lower offer than his Vit salary because he didn’t have any other options which means (to a certain extent of course) he would’ve taken any contract because he was desperate

[jovial solar]

VP PICK UP YUJIN RADO MTZR

can continue to support VP this season

[fiery elbow]

WOAH

[wheat sinew]

Common VP W, doubt we’ll see them on LAN but really hope so

[south patio]

anyone know where i can see italy - greece world cup?

[pseudo snow]

lmaoo france 1-1 poland

[sharp zealot]

Does app jack still play for a team?

[pseudo snow]

he recently signed with geekay

[wooden thistle]

He's also playing for England currently

[sharp zealot]

Thanks

[wheat sinew]

Did y’all see the Belgium team vs team Israel drama today, ts cracked me up

[steep locust]

Yeah was just reading it a few mins ago

Apparently tried to get the win awarded to them through some ruling as well lol

[wheat sinew]

Did they really or was it speculation lol

The stream I saw a link to was in Arabic so I couldn’t pick out much information, glad to see they eventually played it out as they’re meant to though

[steep locust]

Yeah just going off what somebody said in the comments after linking the Israel VOD

[wheat sinew]

I see the steam pulled up the rulebook

The one it could potentially be under is “Expression of statements of commercial, religious or political nature or that incite or promote hatred and discriminatory conduct;”

[steep locust]

Poor Bosnia though lol, 3 goals scored all tournament up until their match with Moldova which was at least not a total thrashing

[wheat sinew]

Hard to tell since it’s Saudi run but me personally they equipped a topper that’s in the game, calling a pause without reason and leaving is way worse

[steep locust]

Finland were merciless

[wheat sinew]

Yea hard to see some teams struggle so much

[steep locust]

35-1 and 31-0

[wheat sinew]

Who’s the England team again?

[steep locust]

AppJack, Archie, Joyo

Toxiic sub, Eekso coach

[wheat sinew]

Hmm, is South Africa going to make it this year? They’d better watch out if so

Man, I listened back to the Twitter chat room TBates hosted a few weeks ago, and it was so funny

[hasty eagle]

Who even hosts this competition?

[wheat sinew]

FIFAe? It’s part of the fifa organization, and it’s held in Riyadh and is mostly Saudi backed and produced I think

[wheat sinew]

Dralii teasing Archie about losing to SouthAfrica and Archie says it was a big draw 🤣

[jovial solar]

If Belgium get banned or punished it’s dumb cause it’s just a flag. It’s in the game they’re interpreting the meaning which is easy to get out of

[molten oxide]

yikes

[wheat sinew]

I mean that’s a take you could have, them having the flag wasn’t to show support of a terrorist organization or to bring anguish to the other players though, I think they were just trying to reflect that things arguably haven’t been handled correctly between the two places

[limpid jewel]

maybe a BIT excessive but also its dralii he was guaranteed to lose lol

[torpid ice]

Ppl keep saying this but even if England beat South Africa in both games they still would’ve lost the tiebreaker to Spain

[wheat sinew]

Yea, hope they can get top 8 this time around

Or whatever the equivalent of last years making it out of groups

[hexed iris]

i missed it, reading between the lines here was the drama that the belgians equipped palestine flags for the match against israel?

[teal lagoon]

Yh he did say that

[wheat sinew]

Ja

[wooden thistle]

Please keep your ignorance out of this server

To everyone in the chat this isn’t the place to discuss that topic any further

[molten oxide]

oop

there he goes

[limber onyx]

lessgooo

[warm tusk]

bro it was unsafe for work bru

[limber onyx]

thats crazy

[limber onyx]

'pls keep your scams out of the server' 😭🙏

[vale rapids]

Could someone send me some good settings for the joy stick?

[warm tusk]

i got a warn 😭

[warm tusk]

that wasnt me that was someone else

[warm tusk]

rip it out and play with it out it increases a lot of control

like litterally rip your joystick out

use the little stub thats left

[native pelican]

Whats up with belguim?

[hasty eagle]

Shaj was pretty clear about this topic.

[wheat sinew]

Belgium are looking good so far, their only real competition in the group should be England but still they’ve crushed the other teams. A little drama yesterday, should be easy to find more info if you’re interested, but yeah they’re looking good

Of course Atow is like top10 conversation from last season, but I’m still a bit surprised how decently Aztral and Rysfox have been holding up

Really hoping Rustez Mozza picking up Aztral lets them make top 8s and play upset this RLCS season

[fiery elbow]

hey dont underestimate my lt goat simas

[wheat sinew]

Who’s he repping again?

[fiery elbow]

🇱🇹

they tied against belgium yesterday

[wheat sinew]

Hmm true

My fault I figured that was random

They’re looking to make it out right? Cuz Serbia DQed and Israel’s team isn’t as good

[fiery elbow]

yeah they should make it out

[hasty eagle]

What’s the leaderboard status?

[wheat sinew]

England revenge vs Belgium, the subpar stream had ads during game 2 OT 😭

[void epoch]

How well did iraq do in the wc qualifiers? Anyone know?

[wooden thistle]

I don't think Iraq are allowed to play

[spice sundial]

https://youtu.be/zacirnafMbA?si=hqy_bkmNHobnNu7W