gameplay-tips

[pulsar tusk]

U should just look on tiktok if u want to learn it perfectly,

[mortal quail]

The classic
Two teammate blamers blame each other

1v1 doesn't prove anything

Agreed

[sharp tundra]

Guys I need help I cant get out of c2 keep dropping then getting bk in c2 any tips or anything?

Na

I play in gc-c3 lobbies fine just hardstuck

[mortal quail]

Cya

[sharp tundra]

No but I can c3 to gc lobbies

Forgot add play

Idk what I can do to add to my games

[mortal quail]

Won a tourney

Helps when your teammate is chronic

[pulsar tusk]

Following up on that, after the flip, drag ur stick to either 5 or 7

Depending on what side ur flipping

[azure skiff]

hello

[tall void]

does anyone have tips to master airroll left? i can airroll right decent:)

[tall void]

diamond 1-2. i have been diamond 3 div 3 i think

i know im switching

not gonna use both

im switching to more optimal binds so i can do more stuff yk

yeah ik

but its more optimal binds now

look i had airroll left only for speed flip

yeah

but i couldnt switch

with the speed flips to hard

how did i do that?

but i can do more stuff now

better binds xD

why lol

[cyan sage]

Right and left air roll are equal lol

Use one direction and regular.

To do a speed flip you just hold regular air roll the entire flip, u don't go directional. You flip on an angle and instantly cancel it, using regular airroll as a recovery.

[tall void]

uh

i used left for speed flip only, isnt that a waste?

so you saying i should go back?

[lost verge]

You should learn whichever airroll you're more comfortable with and if you feel like you didn't make much progress with air roll right then you should be fine to use whichever you want just try them out and stick to one

[cyan sage]

U don't use directional air roll in a speed flip. If u do, ur not speed flipping lol

No, the direction air roll will fuck up the flip.

[lost verge]

You're supposed to use it all the way

[pulsar tusk]

whats the best bind on ur controller for boosting,

[lost verge]

Not if you do it right

[lost verge]

I love having x for xbox or square for ps

[cyan sage]

You have to use regular air roll in order to speed flip, I guess if you use directional, u can speed flip one direction, but that's just a useless obstacle.

[lost verge]

it lets you fat finger jump and boost efficiently

[cyan sage]

I agree, but why do such a thing? Then ur speed won't even be useful if u need to gain it in the other direction

I just use 2, all 3 would be most powerful but I couldn't get used to both, I use my 3rd air roll for quick half flips.

[lost verge]

You can be the same speed on both sides

[cyan sage]

Just binded to my l3

[cyan sage]

When u flip a certain diagonal based on where you're trying to go, a right vs left speed flip will matter. Trust

Kick offs as well, it's nice to know both directions to counter your opponent

If you're using a speed flip kick off

[lost verge]

Ah alr for kickoffs at least I think you can keep up with anything with one direction tho

[cyan sage]

You can, but you won't get to a certain point of the ball as quick, like if I want to go-to the left side of the ball, a left start on the speed flip will get me there quicker.

Won't need to micro adjust during landing

[pulsar tusk]

gotta be A

[cyan sage]

Easily A

[lost verge]

Thats fair

[gilded mason]

Hello i have a question i heard that you were supposed to make your power slide and air roll the same button so i did but i dis directional air roll and power slide and have gotten used to that is this wrong

[cyan sage]

My buddy did the same, he had to switch and readjust.

[pulsar tusk]

yo can i ask something guys

Is champ 1 in 300 hrs good?

been playing since like july 2023

Just curious,

[cyan sage]

If u don't have a regular air roll, u won't be able to do small adjusts to take shots at certain angles. It definitely adds a challenge only have one direction available at all times.

[lost verge]

Yeah but it's kinda within range I think it's better than a decent amount of people but most get it 400-600 hours I'm pretty sure

[cyan sage]

L1 to both airroll and power slide, r1 to boost, square to left or right roll

[pulsar tusk]

Hm alr

im thinkin abt adjusting boost from r1 to Circle

[cyan sage]

Claw play? Or fat fingers lol

Not true

Maybe 6 years ago

Nowadays they all use triggers for the most part man lol, look up the controls.

[gilded mason]

I do but my power slide is bound to my direcional air roll and when i try to switch it to my regular one i cant get used to it

[cyan sage]

That's might be weird for recovering, it might be possible to have the regular air roll on a different button I guess.

A speed flip is a diagonal flip, instantly cancelled, and regular air roll to recover.

Use training maps to see if ur doing it right

Thats sick

[lapis minnow]

dm me if u need help ranking up

[cyan sage]

Learn half flips and cancels before speed flipping.

Or else ur gonna struggle a fat minute.

Gotta be used to snapping that stick back

Then yea just practice it.

[lapis minnow]

dm me if you need help getting better

[cyan sage]

Why r u so desperate to coach, Rio?

R u like an SSL rl enthusiast or something

[lapis minnow]

little something like that you could say

[timid hound]

u trolling me

lmao what does that even mean? see what?

that you are silver?

1k hrs silver would be mad impressive

true 😭 , forgot about that

i could not care less what your rank is, go queue some games

only if you say "pwetty pweaaase aqua u so cute pwease join"

💀

just q normally, youll derank dw

[cyan prawn]

what rank is ur friend

[timid hound]

mod in the chat, can u teech me to air dibble

[narrow shale]

Can someone gove me tips on air dribbles?

[timid hound]

soft first touch, hit ball in lower third

[ionic flax]

god damn

[narrow shale]

Wtf, i didn't undertsand the last part, but i just did air dribble perfectly 😭

Bro, ur a god

[timid hound]

your brain may not have understood, but your fingers did 🙏

[narrow shale]

No, but actually, the soft touch just made me score all air dribbles i do

Thanks so much

🤜🏿🤛🏿

[timid hound]

np, thats the easiest way to keep control

[narrow shale]

And do you havr any tips for ceiling shots?

[sterile nacelle]

get the ball as close as you can to the ceiling without it touching

jump from wall to ceiling

[leaden kestrel]

How do you find a good tm8 for 2s ?? I have some friends but we just dont rank up any tips ? And not just get better cus i know

[narrow shale]

They play with friends

[leaden kestrel]

You mean the opponents

[narrow shale]

Wdym

[leaden kestrel]

Never mind

[narrow shale]

Best tip: switch to freestyle

[mortal quail]

Solo queue and party up with who you do well in

[rare skiff]

chat my game is bugged, my camera keeps looking to the right and i cant move it how do i fix?

[leaden kestrel]

Yh but my solo q tm8s are just afk most of the time and the good tm8s just leave after the game

[grizzled basalt]

Its most likely stick drift

[timid hound]

honestly ceiling shots can be done in so many different ways its kinda hard to teach without making it confusing

[rare skiff]

nah my controller is fine i jus checked, it jus happens on rl

[timid hound]

but the idea it to keep it close while on the ceiling, then get under it

[leaden kestrel]

Maybe reset camera's settings just remember them

@rare skiff

[narrow shale]

Always when im trying ceiling shots im very far away from the balk

[rare skiff]

ill try that

[leaden kestrel]

Take a screen of the settings

[timid hound]

try jumping as you hit the ball, might help you stick to it

[grizzled basalt]

Anyone got any tips for getting out of plat in 2s

[narrow shale]

Im already jumping

[timid hound]

atp its just practice to be able to get the right power

[cyan prawn]

boom the ball

[timid hound]

or to start, you could always hit it off the wall, and continue driving up onto the ceiling

[narrow shale]

Yeah ,someone told me that before

[grizzled basalt]

I've mainly been doing that but sometimes it doesn't always work to do that, it'll just give away my possession

[cyan prawn]

try shoot when u hit the ball hard

don’t hit it into any open space

[grizzled basalt]

If you mean by booming the ball to your teammates, that would make more sense

[timid hound]

early flicks will probably get you to diamond instantly

[grizzled basalt]

Makes sense

[timid hound]

plats love to challange everything, so its a free goal

[cyan prawn]

i mean I can give you a good overview: the main priorities would be learning to hit the ball hard using flicks, chip shots, and wall hits

[vernal sequoia]

ya for sure

[cyan prawn]

also try learn some recovery mechs

they won’t instantly make u rank up but will help you

[grizzled basalt]

I've also been practicing my defense because that's the main thing that slows down my rankings

[cyan prawn]

can you powershot

[grizzled basalt]

Yes

[leaden kestrel]

Do it more

[cyan prawn]

use that it really helps

[grizzled basalt]

Usually I don't get enough space for it tho

[cyan prawn]

plats most likely just learnt fast aerials so they prob can’t save power shots

[leaden kestrel]

Im c1 and i do powershots

And i dont have space

[cyan prawn]

you just need to hit the ball twice and you can do it

once to a direction and boom in the opposite direction

[cyan prawn]

in c1 u gotta create space

[leaden kestrel]

I know

[cyan prawn]

using dribbles and double jump pops

[grizzled basalt]

What about cuts, are those helpful?

[leaden kestrel]

But in plat you dont need space cus they miss the ball

[cyan prawn]

if ur good at them yes

[cyan prawn]

true but remember he’s plat too

[leaden kestrel]

Idk if its still it was when i was plat

Yh true

[cyan prawn]

they’re not that much better just diff play style

[leaden kestrel]

Ballshase?

[grizzled basalt]

Some of us do that

[cyan prawn]

btw at c1 if u can airdribble from anywhere it’s free

[leaden kestrel]

Im going off if needed help text faixz he knows it better then me

[vivid oxide]

how do you get so little power on pre flips into air dribbles? when I do it the ball goes flying

[leaden kestrel]

@cyan prawn yh but there are a lot of gc in champ

[timid hound]

flip earlier

[vagrant rose]

why am i suck in plat

[timid hound]

the flip should almost be complete when you get your first touch

[cyan prawn]

they’re past gcs and washed, they try play like they’re gcs again but they can’t keep up with their own speed

[leaden kestrel]

Even in c1 they smurfing or stuck / deranking

[cyan prawn]

trust me bro let them go flying into ur corner they can’t control their car

[vivid oxide]

okay i see what u mean, i just need more practice to memorize the flip pattern i think

been drilling it for so long sadge

[leaden kestrel]

Yh some of them do i have some not mutch but some of them just still are gc just in c1 you can see that they are better and have control

[cyan prawn]

bro i coach c1s and I’ve seen a lot of replays, there’s always a reason why they are c1

[leaden kestrel]

Yh

[cyan prawn]

spot weaknesses and adapt

[leaden kestrel]

They still are better then me and im just dumb in game lol

[cyan prawn]

try force the ball for ur tm8

[vivid oxide]

if u play smart u get out of c1, otherwise u get stuck there. I hit gc and got stuck there b4 just cz i wanted to chase. its all abt being smart t oget out of c1

[leaden kestrel]

Im just stuck cus of my of my playstyle trust me i play to much defense and over comite in corners

[cyan prawn]

do u do backpost rotation

[leaden kestrel]

I do it

I just dont wait and challenge cus everyone i know like coaches say i need to challenge more so i do but then i over comit

@cyan prawn

[cyan prawn]

if ur 1st man overcommitting is ok if u can force

if ur 2nd Man u need to see if they are awkward

then challenge

[leaden kestrel]

Ok

[supple remnant]

I'm gold 1 but I can't get out

[cyan prawn]

like i said with the plat boom the ball

power clears will easily get u out

[supple remnant]

Ty

[broken reef]

Does anyone have any tips for getting out of diamond 2

[cyan prawn]

power slide cuts help

they chase so much

[broken reef]

oh

do you think I could make it to c1 whilst solo queuing or nah?

[cyan prawn]

i mean i did so if

[daring copper]

Yes lmao

[cyan prawn]

ig

[broken reef]

Alr

Do I need to know how to aerial as much?

[leaden kestrel]

@cyan prawn i know i can handel c2 my friends are c3 and some games i can handel very good but some other games i cant follow so im just not ready for it but i just still think i can handel c2

[daring copper]

Derank to diamond 1

[cyan prawn]

Ofc they help a lot

[broken reef]

I’ve been dia 2 for ages I’m not that bad to derank

[broken reef]

Alr

[cyan prawn]

c2 is a different story, full of hard chasers

[daring copper]

You'll get to champ eventually and solo q is fine

[cyan prawn]

at that level u need to out speed them

[vivid oxide]

@timid hound any tips on how u practiced the preflips? I feel like im learning dar all over again. despair vibes

[broken reef]

yh I js need to grind

[daring copper]

Absolutely

[cyan prawn]

what type of pre flip air dribble r u tryna learn

[supple remnant]

Is it good to speed flip in gold

[cyan prawn]

depends

[vivid oxide]

wanna be consistent off the wall able to flip into the ball, keep it close and follow it

that shit is so op

[cyan prawn]

flip into it early so it hits the body of ur car rather than the nose

or u can boom it with ur nose to the ceiling and maybe get a reset

[grizzled basalt]

Do you guys have any tips for solo queue teammates that throw almost every match

[vivid oxide]

ye i just end up missing since im not good enough at the preflips, juist more practice needed. or i end up just doing a double tap setup on acident

[vivid oxide]

i've heard of this but can u explain it a lil more

[cyan prawn]

check dms

[timid hound]

none really come to mind, as i got better i just starting doing it, it wasnt really a mech i practiced

but getting better with flip cancels will prob help

[cyan prawn]

u gotta trust them bro but let them do what they gotta do then take the ball when they can’t

[supple remnant]

How do you learn how to do boost management

[vivid oxide]

fair, I hit them sometimes randomly if im peaking, just tryina force consisrtency

[grizzled basalt]

What if they're constantly giving the ball to the opponents, then what do I do

[cyan sage]

@cyan sage

Help me

[daring copper]

What's your rank

[zenith delta]

Don’t trust them

[grizzled basalt]

Plat 2

[daring copper]

U throw as well tho

[cyan prawn]

ur opponents likely won’t make a good play, clear to the corner and take control to shoot

[cyan prawn]

everyone throws until gc2/3

[daring copper]

Until ssl gc2s and gc3s don't play perfect either same for ssl tbh

[supple remnant]

How to learn boost management

[grizzled basalt]

No one can play perfectly tho, you can't blame them, you most likely don't either

[daring copper]

I know I don't whenever I lose I blame myself most of the time

[supple remnant]

How to learn boost management

[zenith delta]

People never stop throwing bro

[daring copper]

Including you and me

[grizzled basalt]

Play in training with limited boost

[cyan prawn]

not saying they do they just don’t throw as much

[supple remnant]

Ty

[grizzled basalt]

Np

[daring copper]

True

[grizzled basalt]

What are good kickoffs to practice in plat

[cyan prawn]

speedflip / diagonal flip

[daring copper]

Diagonal flip

[grizzled basalt]

Ok

Thx

[daring copper]

Don't worry about speedflippinh

[cyan prawn]

speedflipping can be good but takes time

[grizzled basalt]

That kinda sucks for me cause I already practice speedflips

[cyan prawn]

try to diagonal flip for now

[daring copper]

I didn't learn that until gc1

[zenith delta]

Bro just learn how to speed flip and save yourself

[cyan prawn]

that’s late bro

[daring copper]

U can get gc without speedflips

[cyan prawn]

i learnt it in like p1 but that was a mistake

[daring copper]

I know

[cyan sage]

If anyone needs free coaching DM me, [P3] - [1700]

[zenith delta]

What is the point of not learning it tho

The game is only getting harder

[daring copper]

What's the point of learning it if you don't need to

Especially at plat

[grizzled basalt]

I'm just off at plat 1

[cyan prawn]

people Smurf in gold and get destroyed on kickoffs cos the golds have a delay cos they dont speedflip

[zenith delta]

Because most people will already be using it when u rank up

And if you learn it at plat you could be ahead

[daring copper]

Most people don't use it until champ

[cyan prawn]

what rank r u

[zenith delta]

They are messing up their kickoff then

[cyan sage]

Just because people like Flakes show they can accomplish things with no mechanics doesn't really proof anything the title of Flakes videos should be [Former Pro Player with 10000+ hours using no mechanics, you aren't someone that already just has 10000+ hours and that understanding. You don't need speedflips at all, but if you're looking to grow as fast as possible..

[daring copper]

And you're not at a big disadvantage if you don't use it

[zenith delta]

Nope see it in diamond too

[daring copper]

Most people

[cyan sage]

Not needed in Plat or diamond.

Lmao.

[daring copper]

Ik

[zenith delta]

I’ll never understand the point of not learning a mechanic when you just can

[timid hound]

even pros dont play perfect, the main difference between the higher ranks besides consistency, is speed and recovering

[cyan prawn]

so if I’m a gold, i should be learning psychos?

[daring copper]

So should golds silvers learn flip resets?

[cyan prawn]

makes no sense

[zenith delta]

Who said anything about psychos 💀

[cyan prawn]

it’s still a mechanic

[daring copper]

You said you should learn every mechanic when u can

[grizzled basalt]

You said learning mechs, he gave you a mech

[cyan sage]

Speed Flips can be learnt actually in less than 20 minutes.

[sterile nacelle]

imo mechanics is a very broad term, we need to define them as "freestyle mechs" or "comp mechs"

[cyan sage]

Perfecting it is the thing.

[grizzled basalt]

How

[cyan sage]

No, u should focus on regular dribbles and air dribbles if you want. But game sense and solid touches are key at those ranks

And also there's different types of #Mechanics

[zenith delta]

Clearly I’m talking about mechs that you’ll use in comp 🤨

[daring copper]

I'm talking to the other guy he's not making sense

[cyan prawn]

so double resets in bronze 2 got ya

[zenith delta]

You are not going for psychos often unless you’re just a clip hitter

[cyan sage]

And this is the simple explantion -

Mechanics are a very important aspect of the game, but please don’t misunderstand this, I don’t want you to go to practice flip resets after reading this. Everyone misunderstands Mechanics and it is mostly because of the fact that there is no actual Youtube Video that gives the major key points of mechanics, the only place where you’d hear this is from a Coach, which is why we’re going to go in depth about this here

There are different levels of mechanics. You can practice unneeded mechanics like flip-resets and pancakes but it will never be useful within real-games. It will probably benefit your knowledge of them in the future but will not help you improve at the game instantly, no, it is long-term.

Every Pro says it themselves, truth about high level Rocket League (1600+) is that they have control of the ball, car and speed of the play that nobody else has ||
You need mechanics, they are 100% required, but not the type of mechanics that you think of when you hear the word Mechanics..

Recoveries
Consistency
Ball Control
Car Control
Air Control
Reads

All of these fundamentals are literally what a Standard High Level Player (GC2+) have that others just don’t have at a high level of understanding or performance of them.

[cyan prawn]

#looking-for-group

[grizzled basalt]

People who are really good use really advanced mechs, you can't blame them

[zenith delta]

You will eventually need it so just practice the shots every now and then

Why are you limiting mechanics to a certain rank

[cyan prawn]

yh but there’s main focus to every rank

[zenith delta]

You don’t need to be gc to now try and practice flip resets

[cyan sage]

Horrible coach is u just said flip resets aren't useful in real games.

[cyan sage]

They are not, for anything lower than 1600.

[daring copper]

So bronzes should be learning flip reset mustys?

[cyan sage]

I've scored plenty shots as a GC using flip resets as an offensive attack

[cyan prawn]

if u need to learn how to hit the ball and u practice resets it won’t help you as much and you will pour so many hours into it

[zenith delta]

Bronzes can learn it if they want to

[cyan sage]

If you can't do it consistently, then no not useful.

[zenith delta]

There’s literally no point in trying to limit anyone cuz of their rank

[daring copper]

If they want to rank up they shouldn't

[cyan sage]

Well that goes for anything.

[cyan prawn]

yh but they won’t rank up fast

[cyan sage]

That doesn't mean they aren't.

[zenith delta]

They won’t rank up fast by trying to improve their mechanics??

[cyan sage]

Champs are improving as well, I see plenty c3's doing consistent flip resets.

[cyan prawn]

eel giving me c1 vibes

[zenith delta]

Where is the correlation

[cyan sage]

Problem is people overuse it, normally anyone below 1600 isn't consistent at many things in the first place..

The game is improving and going a mechanical route. Look at the top players, zen and dark.

[daring copper]

No because you should focus on the basics lmao

[zenith delta]

Improvement > ranks

[cyan sage]

Depends what people aim for really, getting 1500 is a very easy task even without mechanics, it's just playing

[cyan prawn]

eel what rank r u

[slate cloud]

@cyan sage bluds not his rank just 8-4d him in 1s while trolling

[zenith delta]

Every rank is only improving at their mechanics stop trying to limit people

[cyan sage]

Once u hit champ, u should be improving ur mechanics or you won't climb into GC and SSL, diamonds and below obviously just need to get more consistent , fast, and powerful touches

[daring copper]

He's gc1

[grizzled basalt]

He's not trying to

[zenith delta]

They are literally saying you shouldn’t practice mechanical shots if ur low ranked

[grizzled basalt]

Because you won't need them at such low ranks

[daring copper]

Can't wait to see bronzes hitting penta resets

According to your logic

[zenith delta]

Holy bro

[cyan prawn]

ok so lemme give u an example: two silvers play the game, one silver spends 2 hours hitting the ball, gets to champ, while the other spends 6k hrs learning quad resets and is still in silver cos he can never hit them

[zenith delta]

You guys keep on putting mechanics and ranks together

[cyan sage]

Recoveries
Consistency
Ball Control
Car Control
Air Control
Reads

If you practice all this then you're already practicing speed along with it

Flicks, air dribbles, speed flips, all of these can be acquired by a high diamond low champ, and is a great play style.

[zenith delta]

As you play the game your gamesense will increase bud

[cyan prawn]

videos exist

[zenith delta]

What you do in freeplay doesn’t equal what you learn from playing ranked

[cyan sage]

Yes, but flip resets aren't needed.

[daring copper]

Most people are trying to rank up as quick as possible so anyone at a low rank should just focus the basics if they want to do so

[cyan sage]

U think zen or these mechanical players grew into a offensive machine by limiting themselves.

Flip resets are a great move if u have air dribbles down.

[zenith delta]

I wish I learned to stop chasing ranks earlier cuz I only got hardstuck

[cyan sage]

Plenty of champs and diamonds can practice them. Once they grow into a higher rank they will have it perfected.

[still cape]

hey guys! used to be gc1 div 3 a year ago but am now diamond 3. Has the game changed drastically (like mechanics and stuff) and anything i need to know?

[zenith delta]

Now I’m learning I need to chase improvement

[cyan sage]

They were aiming for pro, I am talking for a standpoint of if someone aiming for something as low as 1600, if you want to go as far as going into pro level or high SSL aka [2000+] then yes.

Ur acting like it's a rule of thumb when it's not. It all depends on the play style you are going for.

[cyan sage]

But you don't just learn all this in one day, and practicing in diamond is good, because it practices your consistency.

When ur running a 2s or 3s match u can afford risks in many situations as u have insurance with your teammate. It's worth going for these shots in many circumstances. That's how u grow.

[zenith delta]

Just learn how to do these shots because it will benefit you as a player as you rank up

[grizzled basalt]

It depends on the shot and the rank

[cyan sage]

We have all missed double touches and resets, but sooner or later we got better by using it against defenders.

[cyan prawn]

they will improve but won’t rank up

[cyan sage]

You can play any way you want, it's just most people overestimate ranks like basic GC1 or even low Gc2 and practice unneeded things, eventually prohibiting them from achieving these rankings at a faster rate, Basic mechanics will take you very far and beat everyone in-game.

[zenith delta]

No it doesn’t bro because their are levels to mechanical shots

[cyan sage]

U need game sense as you move up, but mechanics can out do game sense in a lot of situations.

[still cape]

guys im trying to become a 1s player mainly as im c1 in ones after picking this game back up 2 days ago, is anyone c1 or higher in ones willing to destroy me in a 1v1 so i can learn game sense/ how the higher ranks play

[daring copper]

So bronzes practicing psychos and penta resets will rank them up fast?

[cyan sage]

They wouldn't be physically able to.

[cyan prawn]

yh but if i miss a flip reset 100 times once every game - lost 100 games - lost 1k mmr

[zenith delta]

Here you go again throwing out these unrealistic shots trying to prove me wrong

[daring copper]

They have to practice them don't limit them

[grizzled basalt]

Some of those shots should be learnt at certain ranks meaning low ranked players shouldn't be learning high ranked mechs

[daring copper]

Don't limit them bro

[cyan sage]

U don't lose from one flip resets mishap, it's called recovery and defense

[zenith delta]

I’m talking basic ceiling shots, flip resets, and air dribbles

[cyan sage]

How is that a problem? You're learning? You shouldn't be losing that badly, that just means your defense is flawless!

[daring copper]

Why not penta resets? Don't limit them

[zenith delta]

No they don’t you do not need to be a certain rank to learn a mechanic

[zenith delta]

Just cuz you don’t have mechs doesn’t mean everyone else should be the same

[cyan prawn]

it’s a problem because that’s why there are plat freestylers

[daring copper]

Yeah so bronzes should learn penta resets

[cyan sage]

There's nothing wrong with that.

Plat freestylers decided they wanted to do fun stuff lol

[cyan sage]

It doesn't matter if you lose games and were once C3 and now went down to Plat lmao, if you fall that badly that just means you have things to improve..

[zenith delta]

If they want to be a freestyler they can go ahead

[cyan prawn]

just giving tips so people rank up as fast as possible, ofc they can do what they want

[cyan sage]

Play 1's, 2's, 3's and don't limit your game sense and ability to read each game mode

[cyan sage]

Ur tips suck.

[zenith delta]

You do not need to be a certain rank to try and be a freestyler

[cyan prawn]

bro how

[cyan sage]

They're useless tips. That can't be integrated into their game. U just told them to not practice hard stuff.

[daring copper]

Telling silvers to learn flip resets if they want to rank up is dumb af tho

[cyan prawn]

as a plat i would rather learn powershots than double resets if i wanted to rank up so badly

[cyan sage]

Id rather learn flicks and dribbles. Plats are good for that.

[zenith delta]

When did I say they need to learn them to rank up

[cyan sage]

Control

Not boom ball.

[cyan prawn]

I’m advising them to try to have main priorities not completely avoid these shots

[cyan sage]

U said they're useless in competitive lol

Which is entirely false.

[zenith delta]

I said learning these type of shots will only benefit them as a player because they have more offensive options

[cyan prawn]

yh cos it takes so much more time, i would wanna spend 3k less hours for something more effective and less risky

[cyan sage]

U tell them the truth and assess their abilities and go from there. U don't just shut down an entire idea as advice.

The mechanical sense of the game is improving crazy

[zenith delta]

If you practice the mechanics they become effective though 🤨

[cyan sage]

If they know air dribbles, there's no reason to not practice flip resets. Even as a diamond or champ.

Because that's how u become GC

Mechanics are huge in GC

[zenith delta]

You just limit yourself by not learning how to do these things

[cyan prawn]

but it takes so much more time

anyways my phone is on 1%

[cyan sage]

U need game sense and mechanics at those levels. Time is the price for these ranks.

U must put in time to learn this shit.

[zenith delta]

Literally if you are ranking up to like mid champ you probably already put time to learn game sense

[cyan prawn]

trust me, i tried at a lower rank, i wasted so much time because I wasn’t familiar with the basics and when I had the mechs needed, it was so much easier

[cyan sage]

U have to have the basics ofc.

Hello im just wondering why my teammates play like shit while i meet gc titles in c2

But that doesn't mean everyone at those ranks don't have the basics because you didn't

Times have changed bud.

[cyan prawn]

I’m just advising them to learn basics first because it’s so much easier then

[cyan sage]

Idk maybe smurfs mixing stuff up, or could be your fault but u don't notice. Idk

[cyan sage]

Because that's your rank?

[cyan sage]

U advised them to not learn them at all not basics first.

Do not blame your teammates directly.

[cyan prawn]

they play faster than they can handle, try let them overcommit

[cyan prawn]

I think you’re getting the wrong end of the stick

[zenith delta]

You can learn the basics and more advanced mechanics at the same time

[cyan prawn]

yh but if u learn basics first u save more time

[zenith delta]

Bro what

[cyan sage]

I learned flip resets when I learned how to air dribbles while air rolling. I was about champ 1. I began using them consistently in champ 3

I now have great aeriel offensive power, and air recoveries

[zenith delta]

I said at the same time dawg

[cyan sage]

Diamond I focused on dribbles, flicks, and redirects

[zenith delta]

The basics are basic for a reason they don’t take too long to learn

[cyan sage]

All while improving my game sense and chemistry

[zenith delta]

I was already air dribbling in plat 3

[cyan prawn]

most low ranked players just get confused

[cyan sage]

Yea plats are dribbling now. It's changed.

[cyan sage]

They're not idiots, most of them just need more mechanics and consistency. They understand to not practice something they will never have a chance of hitting

No one's gonna practice a flip reset if they can't air dribbles. Like that's just common sense

If anyone needs free coaching DM me, [P3] - [1700]

[cyan sage]

Well.. That's controversial 😂

Not really, I guess if ur doing that it would be a waste of time. But that's not just for low ranks, if u got the basics down and ur a plat, keep going mf. Ur growing quick

[cyan sage]

People slow themselves down by worrying about their rank too much.. You can't improve if you don't learn.. Doesn't matter if you lose 100 MMR in the day.. [Take a break if you do lose 100 MMR in a day and play Cas.. Go back into it hours later after a Real Life break or just in general the next day]

I agree, u gotta go for things in game and risk losing possession if u want to improve your offensive play, u will learn what not to do, and what to do.

[cyan sage]

No, the basic mechanics take longer to learn than any mechanic in the game..

[zenith delta]

Not learning the basics (mastering the basics)

[cyan sage]

Well dribbling definitely comes faster than a breezy flick.

[cyan sage]

Mastering, yes

Lol

[cyan sage]

Lmao

[zenith delta]

Every plat will learn the basics of dribbling bro

[cyan sage]

As said it all comes to consistency, learning it but then mastering it is what will determine the overall ability you have and being able to master the following:

Recoveries
Consistency
Ball Control
Car Control
Air Control
Reads

Practically you have the needs to already be SSL.. Mastering these.. Like truly mastering it.. You will already be on a mechanical level that will open up many things like @cyan sage has been suggesting which opens the gateway to Freestyle mechanics and then implementing them in game..

[radiant wadi]

ive been playing for many years and naivly avoided learning how to tornado spin. im capable of air dribbling, flip resetting, double touching and stuff but i think if i learn how to tornado spin then it will benefit how consitent i am. Ive been trying to find a useful video but havent been able to. Anybody have any tips?

[cyan sage]

Noooo!

[radiant wadi]

what

[cyan sage]

How to use directonal airroll? Practice.

Use in game.

You will mess up 2000 times, and cause 500 goals.

But at the end you learn it

[zenith delta]

Just practice it in freeplay

[radiant wadi]

i can use directional ariel but never really been able to get tornado spinning down

i dont think im doing it right

[halcyon crest]

Tornado spinning is not a conscious thing you do

[cyan sage]

To use directional air roll and actually get used to it takes time. It's a weird movement

[halcyon crest]

just air roll to adjust to hit the ball properly

[cyan sage]

It's all muscle memory

[cyan sage]

^

[radiant wadi]

yeah but i dont even know what way to move my joystick intially

[cyan sage]

U will naturally be sliding your stick left right up down left down up, but ur car moves right.

[radiant wadi]

so im not the way im doing it doesnt look right

[cyan sage]

U have to understand when to boost based on your cars rotation path.

[cyan sage]

Watch Youtube Videos, sad thing is Youtube Videos can only help so much.. The rest cones to you in learning.. And getting the movement down..

In order to manipulate your path

[radiant wadi]

yeah alright ill keep at it thanks for the help guys!

[cyan sage]

Are you on PC?

[radiant wadi]

i am yes

[cyan sage]

Can I watch one of your replays?

I am bored

[radiant wadi]

i havent got a replay in probably hundreds of hours

but ill have a look

[cyan sage]

Make one lol

[radiant wadi]

okay give me 5

normally use oct and im using breakout

if ball goes over me dont judge

bad start to game

[halcyon crest]

what's your epic name?

I can check if anyone in your games uploaded a replay

[radiant wadi]

JonathanSP1302

[halcyon crest]

somehow no one has ever uploaded a replay to ballchasing with you in it

[radiant wadi]

what does that mean

[halcyon crest]

are you a lower rank?

[radiant wadi]

like c1 atm

[halcyon crest]

hm

[radiant wadi]

peak like c3

[halcyon crest]

I just thought it was strange that you have are in no replays on ballchasing

[zenith delta]

Bros mysterious

[cyan sage]

He is too good to be included in replays.

[cyan sage]

I messaged you, don't know if you have unknown messages at pending.

[radiant wadi]

i dont tend to go for the ball if my team mate there

[cyan sage]

If anyone needs free coaching DM me, [P3] - [1700]

[radiant wadi]

2-5 uh oh

team trying ot ff at 2 mins

[halcyon crest]

what rank are you?

[cyan sage]

Lmao, as long as you're actually trying..

[radiant wadi]

cant really hear my game atm

[cyan sage]

I've only been playing the game for a week.. Just came back from like a 5 month break..

But muscle memory never fails, and I got GC1 pretty easy surprisingly..

(I always take massive breaks and then come back just to fill my ego and make myself feel pro by getting like 1500 in only a week or 3 of playing 😂 )

[halcyon crest]

aha nice

[radiant wadi]

my games done

[gaunt vapor]

I’m js Gold 1

[vernal cliff]

I'm not looking for authoritative advice, I'm just curious about people's play habits. What percent of your time do y'all spend practicing in freeplay vs playing games?

[gaunt vapor]

100 hours

💀

[vernal cliff]

Percent.. like 50% practice 50% play

[gaunt vapor]

Hmm

20% on practice, 80% on play def

[timid hound]

80-90% freeplay and some cas unless im grinding comp

[vernal cliff]

you only spend 10% of the game playing??

[timid hound]

most days

if im grinding comp then its flipped

[civic pendant]

95% ranked 5% freeplay

[olive atlas]

30% free play

Usually learning new mechs or polishing my mechs

[cyan sage]

If anyone needs free coaching DM me, [P3] - [1700]

[cobalt pewter]

i need help speedflipping'

[raw fable]

Js do it

Diagnol flip and then yank ur joystick down

[bleak sail]

how should I train if I am gold

[raw fable]

Keep playing the game

[cyan sage]

What rank are you

[bleak sail]

but how should I spend time in Freeplay or custom training? for reference I have around 30 hours, in gold 2 and (i know you guys hear this a lot) but I'm always getting bad teammates.

[cyan sage]

That’s not how you do it

[cyan sage]

Practice in casual

And practice your shots and power

[bleak sail]

can I do anything in Freeplay or custom training

specifically

[cyan sage]

Look for plat training packs

And adjust yourself

[signal lintel]

Freeplay is probably best but you could find some basic training packs if you want. Playing ranked is most important for improving, usually 2v2 and some 1v1 unless you only really care about 3v3.

Half your teammates will be better than you and half will be worse, that's how it works assuming you play ranked regularly

[bleak sail]

what should I do in Freeplay?

[signal lintel]

Practice going to the ball and hitting it with power. Also hitting the ball right after it bounces. Don't reset the shot too much, and you don't need to be scoring constantly or even shooting

[tough heart]

anyone willing to point out mistakes in my gameplay im c1 div 4

[scarlet furnace]

i am a 1 year washed player i used to be champs could anyone help me learn how to do a flip reset

[vernal cliff]

I was doing a bakkesmod training thing for speedflip and the flip cancel doesn't feel physically possible. It needs to be cancelled within 50ms???

[vernal cliff]

I am 350 hours in and Gold II, so this doesn't check out lol

[sacred dragon]

Hey i recently started rocket league and i want someone to help me with speed flip as im getting difficulty doing it

[raw fable]

Watch YouTube videos

How to improve

[lucid stump]

hey can someone help me speedflip

[raw fable]

Best teacher is time bro when you’re at diamond then you can be coached imo

[supple remnant]

can someone coach me?

can someone coach me?

[sleek yoke]

Hey all im plat 1 in 1's and 2's. I can half flip, speed flip, some air dribble, my arials are pretty decent and shot are usually on target. How can i get better at decision making, when to challenge when to push so and so forth. Im mostly a ones player. any advice is appreciated!

[lucid stump]

can somone help me speed flip

[naive basin]

Need advice on air roll and control wilst arialing

[raw fable]

Hardest mechanic you will ever learn so be patient

Literally no one can tell you how to do it u gotta get a feel for it

Takes a lot of people 1-3 months to get it down

[sleek yoke]

is it worth it?

[raw fable]

Yeh

U can do anything with ur car then

[naive basin]

Give me smt to work and learn i can learn directional air roll or normal ? Ive been using normal for long time now ive been thinking to switch which one should i learn or switch

[polar coral]

depending on your rank you’ll need to learn both

[cyan sage]

If anyone needs free coaching DM me, [P3] - [1700]

[cyan sage]

Huh, what do you mean.

You Need normal air roll

Directional is technically optional, but it is good to use and technically you can consider needed.

But you shouldn't be using normal to be doing Tornado spins lmao

Only Directional can be used practically in the air and most efficient.

[naive basin]

Ive been playing three years using ball cam and normal never gotten anywhere lol i hit play today when i genuinely wanted to learn i learnt fast arials in 4/6 hours after seeing video air roll directional or normal ive never been able to learn ot kind get the hang of

[naive basin]

So i should learn directional and normal then ?

[raw fable]

Both

U need normal air roll for recoveries

A rule id say is

90% air roll left or right

10% normal air roll

Used in a game

So most of ur time training should be directional air roll

But everyone starts out with normal air roll so experiment

[naive basin]

I tried using left air roll today its very weird and annoying to learn after tryna learn normal for 3+ years i never knew directional was a thing lol

[edgy radish]

I was c3 last season and now just stuck in d3 for no reason at all wth?

[naive basin]

Hm so learn directionsl then

[cyan sage]

If anyone needs free coaching DM me, [P3] - [1700]

[dire ledge]

ranks get better

[wild stratus]

can someone coach me

[hallow hatch]

Anyone on here up to helping out a newish player in private matches? Even some straight up go all out 1v1 lol I'll be on in a bit

[golden zinc]

How do u see mmr

[hallow hatch]

Sorry just got told not to do this my bad yall

[oak crown]

bakesmod

[golden zinc]

Is that on pc

[zenith delta]

Be gc plus if you’re on console

[vestal spoke]

im new to game can someone teach me?

[shy ether]

on every platform, but on bakkes (pc only) you have a plugin that shows you the mmr in every rank @golden zinc

[edgy radish]

Nvm it was bcs of solo q

[ionic monolith]

Tbh you should be able to solo d3s for the most part but if your teammates won’t let you then just play as a support role and use your brain

[golden zinc]

No

[ebon stone]

anyone tryna help a g out?

[loud skiff]

look for air roll help or any tutorials to help me. thanks!

[daring copper]

Skill based matchmaking

[edgy radish]

Im chllin got a mate with a mic 7 wins in a row already

[daring copper]

U should be able to do that solo queuing mate but i guess people have preferences

[lost flare]

Doublw flip reset totorial pls

[raw fable]

I haven’t learned air roll left so I can learn it with you and give u tips

[raw fable]

M down

[raw fable]

Do me

Dm me

[hallow hatch]

Dmed

[edgy radish]

Idk if its some magic shit lol😭

[umbral crag]

you can't trade

[cyan sage]

In what world and game are you somehow trading fennec's?!

[shrewd matrix]

Champ 3 chilling over here if u want help with anything thats not super advanced like double or more flip resets im down.

[woeful helm]

is there an effective way to practice recoveries, or should i do that while training car control

[lament canopy]

how do i use workshop maps?

[unkempt dove]

how do i get outa gold

[burnt shoal]

what mechs do i need for getting out of plat?

gold what?

pratice game sense

you don't really need ariels and airdribble

focus how ground

on ground

have you gotten plat?

you need 10 wins in plat to get reward

[unkempt dove]

i have

gotten plat

[cyan sage]

are there any good tutorials on how to do flip resets and wall dribbles and etc

if so could you send me the link

ok

is there anyone that is goof

good*

alrighty

[burnt shoal]

spookluke just talks about gamesense

[cyan sage]

ah

[shy ether]

and he kinda suck at it

[burnt shoal]

he is like champ so.....

[honest coral]

Agreed

[cloud kayak]

ikr

has anyone actuallt considered it lol

[cyan sage]

i did until now

[cloud kayak]

need camera settings i use faiths, 1's ranked player

[languid pecan]

@latent fossil yo i need help

[iron hound]

im just bad at the game

i dont know what im doing wrong

gold 2

ok

i only have 200 so

ok

[ebon stone]

anyone tryna coach me?

ight lmfao

[cloud kayak]

need camera settings ranked 1's i use pulse faiths atm

[wheat palm]

Why can’t I post videos on here

I’m trying to get help with speed flips

[heady aurora]

Hey

[cyan sage]

If anyone needs free coaching DM me, [P3] - [1700]

[cyan sage]

Mnay people have bought it lmao

[plush shadow]

im p2 d4 xd

[shrewd matrix]

Wouldnt it be easier to just look at youtube for something like settings? Most people barely differ in settings anyway at high ranks.
Well
Fov:110
Distance:260-300
Height:90-110
Angle:(-3)-(-5)
Stiffness:0.35-0.85
Those are the common ranges for normal comp players. If u use the lower ranges on the height distance and angle try using a lower stiffness aswell. If u use the higher ranges go a bit up on the stiffness tho most people keep it even more narrow about 0.4-0.5 i think
The last to are more preferance but i use
Swivel speed 5.70
Transition speed 1.50
These are basically mainstream and decent to use. U can play around with it aswell tho.
If you want freestyle settings i have no clue though

[cyan sage]

Which gamemode?

[cyan sage]

1's
2's
3's,

Mainly 2's and 3's.

[shrewd matrix]

Id like free coaching

[cyan sage]

Dang it, I main 1v1.

I would even coach extra modes but like..

[cyan sage]

Depends what rank.

What rank in 1's?

[cyan sage]

Platinum 3, division 2 currently.

I'll coach

I keep losing to champion players, starting to frustrate me.

[shrewd matrix]

U just gonna ignore my request🥲

[cyan sage]

Yes.

Joke

He asked first.. So..

[shrewd matrix]

U should ignore what people are in other modes probably even ignore what they are or used to be in the mode you are playing

[cyan sage]

Actually, I'll coach you first..

[cyan sage]

I would, problem is they hit clips on me then leave instantly when I ask why are you hitting double flip resets on me consistently.

Can't just "Learn to defend flip resets".

I can try one, but double is just ;-;

[shrewd matrix]

Im sitting in champion 3 in 2v2 haven seen a single guy hit a double flip reset in like ever... Who are you playing😂

[cyan sage]

I wish I knew. Every time I check RL tracker they barely have any games played.

I would accept it if they were unranked but sometimes it seems intentional.

It is either I destroy my opponent, or they destroy me. I am not really learning here.

[shrewd matrix]

Honestly i cant imagine them blocking you fron ranking up as if the players in plat 3 were consistently that i would be there aswe

[cyan sage]

Here is what normally happens, I get to platinum 3 divison IV, then I get somebody hitting clips. I say oh well. Next game I GET THEM AGAIN.

Just happened recently.

[bold token]

anyone willing to do replay review?

and gib feedback

[iron hound]

what rank are you

[bold token]

dia 2 atm

[iron hound]

ok so i cant

cause im lower

[ionic monolith]

Tbf as a c3 you probably prejump the save or just don’t let them get a clean setup

[hushed imp]

can anyone help me and my friend in a tournament

we need a 3rd person and i cant say anything like this in looking for group btw

[fickle urchin]

yea please we need a 3rd bc fill tm8s are bad and normally sell

[cyan sage]

Im c2 in normal game mode but wanna get gc rewards in either hoops or rumble. Which one should i pick? Im around diamond on both but i never play them

prob hoops

[karmic yoke]

Could somebody teach me when to challenge and when not to challenge?

1v1 by the way.

[karmic yoke]

Dude blocked me for no reason. They couldn't just say no.

[daring copper]

User?

Yes

[jagged dove]

what rank?

[karmic yoke]

They said gold but when I said my rank they blocked me.

[daring copper]

How u only have 370 wins

Are you the next zen or something

[jagged dove]

lmao im not playin with golds anyway thanks for warning me

[karmic yoke]

No idea why they blocked me to be honest.

[jagged dove]

what was your rank

[karmic yoke]

Platinum 3 in 1v1.

Platinum 2 in 2v2.

Gold 3 in 3v3.

[jagged dove]

im plat 3 in 1v1 too😭

[daring copper]

U haven't played in 4 years and already gc3 in 2s?

[jagged dove]

i am champ 1 in 2v2 tho since thats what i mostly play

[karmic yoke]

So you're the reason I hate 1v1.

[daring copper]

What's your other account

U can't just go from champ to gc3 after 4 years of not playing

[jagged dove]

i keep trying to grind 1s and i keep losing to plats but every once in awhile ill destroy someone

[jagged dove]

i keep losing to plats who just play weird and its so annoying

[karmic yoke]

Nah.

** S U S**

[jagged dove]

but i have a plugin where i can see others ranks, theres so many people who are low in 1s and champ in 2s

[daring copper]

So you went from high champ to gc3 after 370 wins after a 4 year break?

370 wins is probably like 50 hours max so you went from c3-gc3 in that amount of time?

[timber crystal]

Its cause you are inconsistent. Some games you will pop off and some games ur dog water. Its one of the things that makes lower ranks lower rank. Every rank has it tho. Like yesterday I was kinda win lose win lose and today me and my buddy climbed me all the way up to GC2 for a got second, I lost it then a couple more and now im getting off. You gotta know when to stop too. Cause sometimes ya need a break from ranked. Or youll start rage queing. Also, plat has a lot of smurfs.

[lost verge]

I gotchu if you still need help

[daring copper]

Something's off

[lost verge]

I believe you ❤️

[daring copper]

U definitely didn't take a 4 year break

[lost verge]

Some ssls get there in 4k hours or under it's not unheard of to get that good that fast

[timber crystal]

The thing is sure, getting ur level of skill back that you had at the time wont be too hard to keep. Its the fact that everyone else around you kept playing and kept getting better. So not only are you trying to get ur skill back, but ur also trying to catch up.

[karmic yoke]

Nah 1v1 me rn even though I am actually frying my brain in Rocket League rn.

[jagged dove]

yo bet

[lost verge]

You still want help with chaling the ball?

[karmic yoke]

Yes.

[daring copper]

So stop with the waffling, you're telling me you were high champ 4 years ago, took a 4 years break, came back and grinded 100-200 hours and are now gc3-ssl level?

[lost verge]

go dms

[daring copper]

How many hours then

Library

[lost verge]

She at least sees you and you guys go out occasionally right? Please don't neglect your relationship for this game

[daring copper]

I'm not exactly sure

[lost verge]

Ah gotchu you had me worried for a sec

[daring copper]

Idk no one gets from high champ to gc3 after 4 years of not playing it kinda depends on your hours

So it took you 370 hours after a 4 year break to go from champ to gc3/ssl level?

U said you were only high champ 4 years ago

1700 in 2s

Still gc3

What's your total time played do you think

Yes

[lost verge]

The place you own the game on tracks the hours u can check

[daring copper]

I personally don't believe your story but I could be wrong

I believe that you are the skill of a gc3 in 2s

[zenith delta]

Bros better than you

[daring copper]

However I don't believe that you took a 4 year break and only casually played and came back and got to gc3 in 4 months

[daring copper]

And u lil bro

[zenith delta]

I clear you lil man

[daring copper]

Ok buddy even tho u lost the last 1v1

[zenith delta]

Do you want a bo3 where I actually try against you

[daring copper]

Sure another time tho

[zenith delta]

You gonna get dropped

[daring copper]

Haha ok bud

[zenith delta]

😭

[daring copper]

I'm sure it'll be close you're deranking badly

[zenith delta]

My current ranks don’t reflect my skill

[lost verge]

Both but we can do 2s ngl I just wanna confirm the gc 3ness and out you if your not but also bored and would like a good team8

[daring copper]

Sure thing bud

[zenith delta]

I’m deranking cuz I’m losing my passion for ranked rn

Once I get back in high spirits I’m back up 🥱

[lost verge]

gc2 but just wanna cas for a sec I'm not good so prolly no comp

[daring copper]

Ofc bro

Me too when I'm happy I'm ssl / pro

[lost verge]

go dms

[zenith delta]

Why do you even check my ranks tbh

[daring copper]

Why does it affect u

[zenith delta]

It doesn’t because tons of people do it already

[daring copper]

It's car football it's not that deep

[zenith delta]

I just don’t know why I even have so many views on rl tracker

[daring copper]

How many do u have

[ionic monolith]

Want a 3rd? I’m a bit lower but if it’s casual I should be fine

[daring copper]

It's probably because you have so many games

[zenith delta]

Idk I think like almost 3K

[zenith delta]

So

[daring copper]

More games means you play against more players which means more people will check your tracker

[lost verge]

Sure can you let us run 1 2s game first tho I'll dm you

[ionic monolith]

Yeah I’m just getting home

[gaunt vapor]

How to do the looking for group thing?

[daring copper]

/looking for group

[misty forge]

can anybody coach me im plat 3

[cyan sage]

If anyone needs free coaching DM me, [P3] - [1700]

[plush shadow]

yo could you coach me I'm p2 d 4

[cyan sage]

Yes, DM me bro 😭 What do you play on?

[plush shadow]

kbm

[subtle spruce]

anyone from eu still on

[whole star]

.

[amber dust]

need me someone who wants to teach me a bit of gamesense and rotations. c2

[dark falcon]

What can I do for get out of plat I’ve been diamond 2 before now I’m back to plat 2

[amber dust]

@dark falcon what's the worst aspect about your gameplay? or one of the basic mechanics you're worst at?

train that until it's your strongest point

[dark falcon]

K thanks

What can I do if my teammates are deranking me

[halcyon crest]

Stop thinking that they're deranking you

[bold cypress]

play more passive if your playing 3s its best to force the other team same goes for 2s

dont over comit roations are key to ranking up

[pine kraken]

how to get out of bronze 2 I used to be gc 3

[lost verge]

Idk I'm stuck bronze 1 and used to be ssl it's really hard

[pine kraken]

Glad someone else is going through this

[dense coral]

idrk where to write this but i feel like my offence is way worse than my defence and ive been struggling to score goals, compared to my defence where i can save really hard shots. is there a way i can make my offence better without doing advanced mechanics (i forgot to mention im d3 in 2s)

[heady shadow]

Can anyone help me with half flip resets? I'm looking to improve my mechs and get better overall

[dense coral]

i do play 1s

i made it to p3 and i save as many shots as i can but they save all my shots cos of how basic they r

[indigo citrus]

Can someone watch a replay of mine and tell me what im doing wrong (like i managed to win a 2v1 in my ranked d1 div3 game yet im still stuck on it for weeks)

[dense coral]

most of the time i just score open nets cos they over commit or dont recover fast enough and thats really it

when they're defending i rarely score

[shadow lichen]

any tips in hoops?

[sterile thunder]

you might have the same problem as me, not playing with your team8s.
Everyone says that focus on yourself and not your team8s. This is not 100% good.
You tend to need to watch how they play, what can they do, what not, and try to fill in the gaps that your team8s can't.

Just watch and pay attention to your team8s a little and try to adapt to them

[halcyon crest]

Yes the biggest mistake I notice below like GC1 is double commits and overcommits because people don't pay attention to their teammate

[glossy carbon]

tbh i found an easy method to ranking up

and its just playing overly defensive for some reason

i just play defensive and rotate and let my teammate chase ball

prevents double commits and lets monkey teammates be usefull

[halcyon crest]

Helps rank up but you won't get better by doing it

[glossy carbon]

you dont play ranked to improve, you play ranked to find roughly ur skill level and achieve ur goal, you use freeplay and casuel to improve, so i dont see ur point

[trail patrol]

I play ranked to improve

[cyan sage]

where can i look 4 freestylers?

[last cliff]

Can anyone coach me? Im a gold 3 trying to be d2 i play on playstation in eu dm if u can coach

[sterile thunder]

i dont know about that, i play ranked to improve

[sterile thunder]

your rank is too low, you're making too many mistakes to be coached.
Play and get better, start searching for a coach in plat2

[sterile thunder]

you can't improve in casual, casual is a place to goof around and just have fun and make stupid mistakes you know you won't do in ranked. Ranked is where you play serious and actually make mistakes you can improve on

not only that but casual can create bad habits

[trail patrol]

Can I be coached I'm plat 2

[cyan sage]

Just enjoy the game and you’ll rank up before you know it coaching in p2 is not worth it lol

[cyan sage]

what’s your rank

[sterile thunder]

silver 2

[vivid hill]

Can someone coach me I’m plat 3 I was diamond yesterday tho or has anyone got any tips

[cyan sage]

what?

where can I find freestylers

I hate the new lfg bot i hate it so much

it’s horrible

[keen pumice]

Hope this is irony

[sterile thunder]

hm?

[keen pumice]

In any case. The best way of improvement is 1s ranked. Casual is not recommended but you can practice mechs in matches there. Freeplay follows close to that, but more for creating habits and learning recoveries as you can play at your own pace

[cyan sage]

Does anyone do coaching? (FREE)

[glossy carbon]

Its the truth

[glossy carbon]

Delusional, you see casual as something good players dont, casuals is for improving and warming up even tho its loved within some communities for hitting clips and messing around

[sterile thunder]

Like i said, casual is a place where you play casually. You're going to make mistakes you don't make in competitive, and you don't really try so you won't push your limits, you won't do good rotations or pay attention to it. If you say casual is for improving, i only see it as improving your mechanics

but if you actually try in casual

then, sure maybe, but your opponents probably aren't, and if you get easy games, you also won't really improve in any aspect

[keen pumice]

@glossy carbon this is the truth

[sterile thunder]

womp womp

Yes, casual has it's own mmr but it's far from linear

you may be 1800 mmr and go against 2000

you can go against people 500 mmr higher than you

and the lower mmr the shittier people, people in diamond can easily get up to 1900

[halcyon crest]

I'm 1500 in casual and 1800 in ranked ☠️

[sterile thunder]

and there are still people in 1800 that are platinum

[halcyon crest]

Casual isn't a good way to improve anything other than mechanics in any case

[sterile thunder]

yeah ofc it's good to warm up

[halcyon crest]

I feel like warming up in casual is counter productive because then ranked will be faster and you won't be ready for it after playing casual

[sterile thunder]

i never said that playing casual has to be goof around or bad or anything

all im saying is it's not an effective way to rank up

[halcyon crest]

Agree

[sturdy cradle]

Exactly

I'm c1

[halcyon crest]

I'm in gc3 too and casual only hurts my ranked performance

Because I go from playing against champs to people who are normally ssl

[sturdy cradle]

Honestly warm up in rings, it helps

[mortal quail]

I dont recommend warming up in casual, your better off doing ranked 1s or 3s

[halcyon crest]

I haven't played rings in a long time

[sturdy cradle]

Yeah

It feels nice to play after

[halcyon crest]

I just go in freeplay until I feel warm and then into ranked

[sturdy cradle]

I'm guilty of that too

[halcyon crest]

I don't play ranked until I actually feel focused though, my mechanics could be great but I don't q because my mind isn't in the game yet

[cyan sage]

If anyone needs free coaching DM me, [P3] - [1700]

[halcyon crest]

Well it works because I usually win my first games

[cyan sage]

There's always practicing your shooting and dribbling in like dribbling courses + custom training packs to warm up

Another method that people see efficient and use is the secondary account method, where they have the account in a similar ranking to their main and they purposely risk their rank in the account just to warm up regardless if they win or lose.

[halcyon crest]

I feel like I can just tell if I'm going to play well or not

I'd rather queue when my mechanics are weaker and I'm focused than if my mechanics are good and I'm unfocused

[cyan sage]

If you're a high enough rank in 3's and you're a GC3 in 2's, 3's can be very efficient to practice your reads and speed of which in if you actually get a good touch.. This strongly implements into 2v2's and then practicing 1's and increasing your dribbling ability and ability to keep control of the ball in the air when so and opening up many oppurtunities.

6man's is also there.

[sterile thunder]

W

im s2

hm?

[halcyon crest]

@marsh tiger let's race to ssl

We both get it this season

[low ingot]

I wish console had rings

[halcyon crest]

Workshop maps are cool for a day and then most people never use them again

[low ingot]

Im on ps4 lmao just chillin

[daring copper]

I'll race u

[halcyon crest]

Doesn't count

That's what I meant

What mmr are you at?

Okay

[low ingot]

Dang dude

[halcyon crest]

Have you been ssl?

[low ingot]

I thought i was doin well at 1540

[halcyon crest]

You're still way above the average player

[worthy drum]

Who can coach me im gold 1

[daring copper]

That's good

[halcyon crest]

Sure

[low ingot]

Not to my clubm8s lmao they say gc aint gc unless it gc2 (they have high standards)

[halcyon crest]

Ah, I haven't been ssl either

[halcyon crest]

GC is GC

Well, the difference between GC1 and gc3 is huge but they're still both GC

[low ingot]

You got this

[halcyon crest]

160 mmr is a lot in a day

[daring copper]

How tho

[low ingot]

Fair

[halcyon crest]

Because the difference is huge

I'd say gc1-gc3 is similar to plat 1-champ 1

Ah

[daring copper]

I don't think so I've played in gc3 before

I thought it was gc1

[halcyon crest]

It is

[low ingot]

Sheesh

[vital walrus]

I just qued 2s and as soon as they scored my m8 insta left at like 4:56

[halcyon crest]

I hope we both get SSL

[daring copper]

Me as a c1 and a gc3 beat a gc3 and a gc2

[halcyon crest]

That's one game

[low ingot]

I play 3 4 hours at most sometimes since my mentality is horrible (i get annoyed easily)

[daring copper]

True

[low ingot]

Im saving up cans for a ps5 lmao wish me luck

I got 12 bucks rn

[daring copper]

Idk though I don't see a big difference between 1300-1500 so I doubt there's a huge one between 1500+1700 I'd imagine it's a small gap

[halcyon crest]

I don't get why so many good players are stuck in gc3, I'm going against so many people who I know are normally 2k+ but they're in gc3

[low ingot]

Think about how many hours they got

[halcyon crest]

1500-1700 is a lot bigger than 1300-1500

[daring copper]

U even said yourself the players weren't good

[low ingot]

I just reached 3k a few days ago

[halcyon crest]

I've got 2900 hours

[low ingot]

Nice

[daring copper]

O right

[low ingot]

I started f2p

[daring copper]

Can i 1v1 u at some point?

[vital walrus]

2k hours and I’m still hardstuck champ

[low ingot]

Its not gonna come overnight ma boi

[halcyon crest]

Sometimes it can

[low ingot]

It took me a whole year to get outta champ

[daring copper]

I've played vs ssl smurfs in gc1 and they weren't that good and an ssl player once told me that people aren't actually good until high ssl

[halcyon crest]

I was stuck 1600 for a year and then went from 1600 to 1800 randomly in 3 days

[vital walrus]

I was on like a 10 game win streak and almost hit c3 then I went all the way back down to c1

[halcyon crest]

You saying that as a C1 is just wrong, any SSL would destroy you if they want to

[umbral crag]

good is all relative. it's like a gc3 saying that gc2 is bad.

[low ingot]

Dont tire yourself out like after a 5 win streak i would have given myself a break lol

[daring copper]

Yea true

[vital walrus]

In 1s I get destroyed by gc players but I think I could keep up in a gc 2s game

[halcyon crest]

Low GC1 yeah probably

Anything past that and the difference is really big

[daring copper]

I'm gc1

[halcyon crest]

You said you were C1

[vital walrus]

I beat a gc in some tourney then I met a gc 3 and got destroyed 12-1

[daring copper]

When I played in gc3 I was c1

[low ingot]

True

[halcyon crest]

You'd still be destroyed by an SSL if you're GC1

[low ingot]

Me personally im d3 in 1s

[vital walrus]

Is there a big difference between gc3 and ssl?

[daring copper]

Depends on the ssl

[cyan sage]

If anyone needs free coaching DM me, [P3] - [1700]

[halcyon crest]

SSL is 500mmr above GC1 no matter who it is

[daring copper]

If we're talking current 2v2 ssls then yes

[cyan sage]

I've beat many SSL's and Rlcs Commentators, etc..

You're going against washed SSL's or in general smurfed accounts.. Or they are just SSL in for example 3's but Gc2 in 2's..

3's and 2's are different modes.. You can't just call SSL's trash..

[halcyon crest]

Low SSL and gc3 are similar, high SSL though is way way way better than even low SSL

[vital walrus]

High ssl is like pros no?

[halcyon crest]

Yes

[mortal quail]

Anything gc3+ is very good

The gap from gc2-gc3 is laughably large

[halcyon crest]

I'll put it this way: the mmr difference between zen and a low SSL is the same as a low SSL and a C1

[vital walrus]

That’s crazy

[halcyon crest]

Zen got SSL and then another 700 mmr

[daring copper]

I mean if you clap me in the 1v1 I'll believe that the gap between gc3 and gc1 is large I personally don't think it is

[mortal quail]

Bros about to beat the record again

[halcyon crest]

Yeah

[halcyon crest]

You're being delusional then

[mortal quail]

Its considerably large
But a 1v1 will not prove it

[low ingot]

So your one of those types

Nasty

[daring copper]

Why not

[mortal quail]

Ive held close 1s games to gc3s-SSL
However never actually beat

[halcyon crest]

2s and 1s are different modes

[umbral crag]

1s is a totally different mode

[mortal quail]

That doesnt mean its the same in 2s

[vital walrus]

Im a champ with consistently good mechs but bad game sense do I just play more normal matches and less free play to get better?

[umbral crag]

some stuff might transfer between the modes but they still require different skill sets/game sense/thought process

[halcyon crest]

I'd say 2s is the mode with the biggest skill gap from gc1 to ssl

[mortal quail]

For sure

[halcyon crest]

Like there are more ssls in 1s than gc3s in 1s

[mortal quail]

1s skill gap isnt that large

[halcyon crest]

Anyone who's good enough to be high rank in 1s will be able to get SSL and probably won't be stuck gc3

[umbral crag]

look at shade losing to gc1 1s and then be ssl 1s the next day

[vital walrus]

^