gameplay-tips

[minor remnant]

but its risky u played weirdly safe i guess

like in real game i wouldnt have pulled off the reset i did

yea i know

😄

[zenith delta]

That’s weird cuz I was actually confident lol

Bro wdym 😭

I was just relying on mechanics and stuff

Idk bro I didn’t feel too passive

Maybe I’m trippin

[harsh cloud]

If you want to do an off the wall aerial for resets or air dribbles, should you use only one air roll direction on both sides of the wall? Air roll left on both left and right side wall or should I be using both?

[zenith delta]

If you have one of them down you can use both

Having both can help with making micro adjustments in the air

[sick oyster]

How do i stop recoil from hitting the ball when its bounce rolling to my car on the ground

[cerulean ether]

How do I accelerate ☠️

In pc

I just switched

It options / settings it sayid lmb

Idk what is lmb

[severe arch]

left mouse button

[cerulean ether]

Ok thanks y’all

[severe arch]

haha i said it first

[cerulean ether]

W race

I’m so bad

[sick oyster]

Like when the ball is bounce rolling and i jump to start a ground to air dribble

[cerulean ether]

Tips 💴

What is a air dribble

Bet

[sick oyster]

How do i stop the car from being disoriented

[severe arch]

use your joystick

[sick oyster]

After the touch

[severe arch]

and counter the movement

[jaunty vector]

i play rocket league so much and I find it so fun but I can’t nail any mechanics I’m so good somedays with aerials but I suck most of the time it’s hard to explain but I really want to get better

And I literally tend to rage a lot when I can’t get it right

Like air dribbling speed flipping aerials

i want to master it

[severe arch]

put enough time into the game and you’ll be able to do them

[jaunty vector]

I do all the tips

[sick oyster]

Like just point the joystick in the opp dir?

[severe arch]

there’s no cheat code to consistency

[severe arch]

yes

[jaunty vector]

what I mean is like can someone help me master this

I’ll send you a photo I’m practicing rn

[severe arch]

you need to practice dude

[jaunty vector]

damn

[severe arch]

w bubba

[jaunty vector]

any maps or codes or some crap

i watch streamers and do a lot of 1v1s

I already do

[sick oyster]

No dip just asking if theres a technique

[jaunty vector]

isn’t there like a fucking coach here

and I do

[severe arch]

bro wants a cheat code

obv isn’t practicing enough if he can’t hit the shots

mason

how many hours do you have

[jaunty vector]

the hell is ram

[severe arch]

how many hours do you have

[jaunty vector]

idk

how do I check

[severe arch]

guesstimate

[jaunty vector]

ok

Just tell me what it is chill

[harsh cloud]

Under profile it says how many days you have in the game, convert to hours

[jaunty vector]

Thanks

My time played is 22 hours

[harsh cloud]

Although for what it's worth, everyone learns at a different pace, so total amount of hours doesn't necessarily equate to skill

Ya keep plugging away in free play and training packs. 22 hours isn't really enough time to learn the game and all the mechanics

[jaunty vector]

I want to master speed flip

I’ve been trying it for weeks

people say it simple shit dosent help

[jaunty vector]

and could you tell me what RAM is

[mortal quail]

Speedflip isn't a hard mechanic
Its easy to learn but hard to do consistently

[severe arch]

guess how many hours i have

[jaunty vector]

67

[severe arch]

3k

and i still haven’t mastered the game

it takes time to get good

[jaunty vector]

what rank

[severe arch]

gc

[jaunty vector]

dang

nice I’m Gold 1 and trust me I should be higher

I’m so much better than most plats

[severe arch]

yeah no

[severe arch]

❌

[jaunty vector]

u sound like you say what a save every goal

or just a toxic person in general

[mortal quail]

He does, can confirm

[severe arch]

i just know what i’m talking about

[harsh cloud]

RAM is your computers short-term memory. The guys/gals here where just screwing with you because they forgot what it's like to be brand new at the game trying to get gud like you are

[severe arch]

tbf you sound like a stereotypical egotistical plat

[jaunty vector]

you haven’t seen me so how could you say that

i rarely play ranked

[severe arch]

same dude

i’m what people call a “freestyler”

[jaunty vector]

like I said I should be higher if I play more

[severe arch]

dude same literally

can confirm

[blazing fable]

Does anyone know how to make the rocket graphics smooth?

but more smooth

[sterile nacelle]

how do you beat a demo / chasey duo in mid gc2

[zenith delta]

Avoid the demo

[dull ginkgo]

can anyone give me tips for speedflips i just moved to controller from mouse and keyboard

arent they faster?

[zenith delta]

Yea bro

[dull ginkgo]

my kickoffs arent bad i just cant get my flips and when i can get them i cant hit the ball like im not accurate

[olive atlas]

Speed flips aren’t just for kickoffs

[harsh cloud]

Unless your like champ in 1s then I guarantee there's more important things for you to work on then speedflips

[cyan sage]

💀

[olive atlas]

So speedflips aren’t useful for speed?

Your trolling and it’s funny

Is that why everyone uses it

Because it’s overhyped?

That makes no sense lmao

No because it’s useful and actually has an effect on your speed

Your trolling, has to be

[cyan sage]

alr so ima start backflipping on kickof

[olive atlas]

Bro

You’re telling me you don’t need speedflip in GC?

[halcyon crest]

thanks discord

[olive atlas]

So I learn speedflip in SSL? Because that’s when people shoot fast?

[halcyon crest]

I was trying to reply to what is ram

my discord was not scrolled to the newest message lol

[cyan sage]

ur arguing with yourself

ur always here wym

[zenith delta]

Just learn it before u get to gc

Or else it’s going to be harder for u

[dull ginkgo]

no that actually makes sense thank you for the help

[calm zinc]

anyone can helpme improve with directional airoll please

[zenith delta]

Wym

[calm zinc]

im tryna learn directional air roll i did watch yt get bakkes mod training but i still do joystick airolll so much better and i cant change that

[zenith delta]

What are you struggling with

[calm zinc]

How to controll it and use ot manuvering to the ball by will

[zenith delta]

Honestly it just takes a lot of practice to understand the micro movement n everything

If I could see u do it I could point some things out

[calm zinc]

no i just atleast want to like turn left or go straight up and hit the ball this angle and this stuf f

[calm zinc]

i dont need 1% movement of it

[calm zinc]

ill ss it

join the call and u can watch it

[zenith delta]

Send a clip

[calm zinc]

how

wait how do u record with nvidia

whast the keybind i forget

[zenith delta]

What is that lol

[sweet harbor]

People

What is the replacment of reverse in rocket league

[coarse peak]

yo

thye kicked me but i can just join back

[meager gull]

did u take ur meds

[cyan sage]

purple pump

[signal lintel]

Guys do what I instead reverse of want

In rocket league

[cyan sage]

salty springs

[signal lintel]

New map name

[cyan sage]

kanye east

[signal lintel]

Gameplay Tip: Try listening to music while you practice, something like Kanye East!

😮

[cyan sage]

no wrong group of people

still not okay!

[signal lintel]

Leprechauns?

[cyan sage]

gingers?

ginger is a race now?

i mean it is 2024

[signal lintel]

Holy cow I actually never noticed that. Man I learn so much in this channel

No I legit had not seen that

[cyan sage]

you should have won the grammy!

[signal lintel]

Gameplay Tip: Go to #gameplay-tips to learn something new! It might not be directly related to rocket league though

[cyan sage]

how did he get banned what the fwick

[signal lintel]

That's crazy

[cyan sage]

he just got past the "im new to discord"

gone too soon

[signal lintel]

😔😔

[signal lintel]

Idk something about the alphabet I think

Haw haw haw

Man you talk just like this other guy I know

Name was burger or something

Anyways I'm looking for 4v4 tips

🤷‍♂️

[halcyon crest]

Try to play very aggressive as 4th man

And be careful of quadruple commits

[cyan sage]

yes

wii

controller is better

[olive atlas]

Depends on the player

[dry marsh]

why are you lying in your about me

you're 1100 peak in 2s

c1 peak in 1s

[cyan sage]

i guess im now diamond in 2s and c1 in 1s

[dry marsh]

you are

wdym you guess, thats just real

[cyan sage]

real, where tf have u been

[dry marsh]

sleep, college

almost on as often as @cyan sage now

(he's never on)

@mortal quail coach us

[cyan sage]

coach me

[plucky sequoia]

Hello I'm kinda new to rocket league and I was wondering what the correct binding should be for air roll left, right,and normal air roll I use a ps5 Controller but I play on a monitor

[cyan sage]

for left mosr people use l1 and if ur a right player you would put it to r1, and a lot of people have their free air rol on square/triangle/circle

[dusty lintel]

I use air roll right on X (Xbox)

[plucky sequoia]

Thanks

[cyan sage]

you wont need all 3, either left or right and pare that with free air rol, wich on default is square and a lot of people js stick to that

[plucky sequoia]

Is left more used

[cyan sage]

yeah its like 85/15

[plucky sequoia]

Alr thanks for the help

[cyan sage]

np :))

[oak perch]

Get me out of plat pls

I need tips and pointers

I hit ball hard and ball go in net

[nocturne breach]

it doesnt happen

[nocturne breach]

anyone saying that and isnt gc = lie

[oak perch]

But I'm gc in MMR not ranking 😭

[nocturne breach]

what is that supposed to mean lol

[oak perch]

My MMR in rocket League casual is ranking me in Grand Champ lobbies

[glad bronze]

The amount of smurfs in plat3 3's is actually insane

And 2's

[nocturne breach]

mmr in cas doesnt matter

[nocturne breach]

most of gcs in cas arent even taking you seriously

and they laugh at how much you sweat in casuals

if you want the real deal, jump into ranked or find scrims

[cyan sage]

fkn hate casual grinders

[cold musk]

does anyone want to 1v1 me and give me some pointers or tips to improve what im doing wrong?

[vague gale]

Anyone coaching

[meager gull]

copium

[agile rover]

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[dusky fiber]

dont chase, good powershots, save arials straight/backwards, dont play too risky (especially in corners) and avoid committing, look more around u this way ur decision making gets easier, play 1s to improve individually, look at yourself and dont blame mates (get better with adapting), dont focus too much on the big pads this might get u out of rotation at some points so stay around the smaller pads to be more in rotation,

[halcyon crest]

I doubt you'd notice the difference if a diamond was in your lobby when you're plat anyway

A lot of people just main 2s so there are some champs who literally don't play 3s so they're low rank

[nocturne breach]

there are no smurfs in that 3s rank lol

[agile rover]

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[spark sun]

I’m plat 3 Div 3 and can’t get out of plat please help me

[dusky fiber]

there are specific stereo types usually, either the chaser or the passive guy, the higher the rank goes the more these types shift, when u see someone taking his time a lot rather be more aggressive, etc. i feel like after a minute u will already see what your opponents and your mate are. Then its all about u how u can adapt to those playstyles, especially to the one of your teammate

[spark sun]

@dusky fiber how do I get out of plat 3 Div 3 I’m stuck

[dusky fiber]

try not to chase, dont overcommit especially in corners, get consistent with flying backwards and forward, look more around u to improve decision making, dont blame mates and look at yourself, get better with powershots

[spark sun]

Thank you

[agile rover]

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[meager gull]

coach forgot his meds today don’t worry about it

[agile rover]

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[nocturne breach]

dont whiff the ball

and hit as many open nets as possible

[strange island]

How do I get out of silver ? (Apart from hitting the ball)

[nocturne breach]

think about this way: if you fail to save something savable, miss open net or miss the ball, is your fault if the game is lost, regardless of how many times your teammate did mistakes

and besides that, you must match AT LEAST the speed of the rank

[strange island]

Dude i can

[dense hare]

any mechanics i should learn before I play comp again? 1 loss and im back to gold :D

[nocturne breach]

if you really have a game without mistakes and is your tm's fault, that's fine, but if you would really have games without grave mistakes, out of 100 games you'd win at least 70-80 in that rank, while an average player of that rank would probably win 40-60, if that makes sense

[strange island]

I actually tried to air dribble in an online game an got 1 touch

[dense hare]

dont go for air dribbles in silver wtf

[nocturne breach]

hit the ball with powershot

[strange island]

I know

[nocturne breach]

literally all it takes to get diamond

[strange island]

It was in casual

[dense hare]

i mean when i think of it, I AM bad at power shots

[dry elk]

this is so cap a good ball control with a good flick can get you to champ 1 (including good decision making) in 1s

[nocturne breach]

you have to hit open nets and do powershots and hookshot from various angles

[dry elk]

thisss

[nocturne breach]

is a core of rocket league

[dense hare]

hookshot?

whats that

[nocturne breach]

search it up on yt

[dense hare]

alright

[nocturne breach]

honestly, low ranks will struggle to be consistent with it and there are far more efficient methods to score with higher probability than relying on your skills as silver-c1/2 to hit air dribbles

and air dribbles are only useful when using variations of it and mind games

this is why they are usually better used in gc and above

a simple air dribble can be saved even by a diamond

even if a gc does it

yeah

you need to learn glue air dribbles for sudden direction changes, "bounce" air dribbles are meta in the game because of many reasons

[nocturne breach]

1. possibility to do fast resets and being unpredictable
2. faking not having boost than doing extra touch to get the ball past the opponent ( mind game )
3. easier to do air dribble bump

that being said, is better to also be consistent with dar while doing them

this is why air dribbles are better used in gc

if a diamond scores an air dribble, that is probably after 10 attempts, like 1/10 in a ranked game, if he would have attempted to score for example with powershots that would have been probably more efficient, scoring at least 3-4/10 for example

not to mention that when they have better setups for ground plays, they just roll the ball to the wall trying to get a good setup while being slow at it and still whiff or the opponent is disrupting their plays

speed problem for setup and dealing with awkward setup - involves good car control and ball control, usually better to be a higher rank

[meager gull]

too long didnt read im gonna practice air dribbles to get to c1 thx for the help

[nocturne breach]

np, gl to the grind

that's the spirit

[meager gull]

thx as long as i can get jt over my tm8s cause they be holding me back

[nocturne breach]

let them hold you back

and let the opponents cook you

after all, that was your choice

[glossy pewter]

SSL IS STUPID EASY LMAO

My friend whos like C3 got 2 other C3 friends and legit went ahead and and 3 stacked ssl for like 4 weeks and hit SSL in snowday

Let me finish? maybe?

[meager gull]

that doesnt sound like i win the match

[nocturne breach]

but you let them cook you

[glossy pewter]

RL coach salty he cant hit SSL

[meager gull]

no i want to cook them i will stay room temperature

[glossy pewter]

Sucks for you my bio is capping lmao 😭

I havent updated it in 2 years

[nocturne breach]

typical game modder

[patent temple]

i just wanna learn how to tripple flip reset musty crosbar double

[glossy pewter]

Use to thoo

Depends on the day

[nocturne breach]

graphic designer

[glossy pewter]

fluxuates

[glossy pewter]

This is fact guys

[meager gull]

i followed ur linked spotify wanna make playlist together?

[patent temple]

1200

[nocturne breach]

bro tried to learn backend and said "nah im out" then started to learn paint

[patent temple]

dang close enough

[glossy pewter]

Paint 3d is so peak

nine year old me fr

[nocturne breach]

real

[patent temple]

im gc2

lol

i just wanna do better freestyle's

[nocturne breach]

p r a c t i c e

[patent temple]

to much time want quick and easy steps

[meager gull]

woops you put a c in there

[nocturne breach]

is simple, just do each step of the mechanic one by one

[patent temple]

dang your right

[meager gull]

ur not real

[nocturne breach]

i wonder if anyone has tried this with the fs bot all while keeping the ball on the top of the car: chaindashes on the ground into a wall chain dash into a ceiling chain dash into a something for example idk whatever double tap

[meager gull]

you lost me halfway

[meager gull]

do you mean tas or is there a fs bot idk about

[nocturne breach]

yes tas

[nocturne breach]

i found this shot pretty impossible

to do

noo, not the lost gc, put it back fast

[teal oracle]

i want to, dont wanna be the little annoying kids that blame there teammates but my friends ego is so high, constant goes for clips and leaves it in a 1v2

[meager gull]

u gonna drop even lower if you get a tm8 from here bro

[meager gull]

this is the best advice i given all day

[teal oracle]

nah my high gc 2 friend got someone from here

he said its good

[meager gull]

extremely rare lfg W

[teal oracle]

i think i have like 500

[meager gull]

i recommend subtracting the rank they put by atleast 50-100mmr

[teal oracle]

what rank are you

[meager gull]

like silver 3

[teal oracle]

w

[meager gull]

yeah

[teal oracle]

are their egos high?

[meager gull]

just talent, lots of it

i have 7k hours

wish that was cap too

[teal oracle]

theres no way u have 7k

[nocturne breach]

my ego isnt high, but nor my skill is 🗿

[meager gull]

ong bro 💀

[teal oracle]

what rank are you

[nocturne breach]

c3

[teal oracle]

high c3?

[nocturne breach]

no

[teal oracle]

what mmr

[nocturne breach]

no idea, i am div 2 rn

[meager gull]

minus the zeros

[nocturne breach]

bro got vanished

[teal oracle]

whats ur epic?

[nocturne breach]

dms

[meager gull]

finally

bro was measuring skill in levels and yapping about Kukur pinch ??

defo gc2

[teal oracle]

lol

[unique plaza]

how can I turn the jzr flick into a boomer flick

like how can I add more strength to it

[unique plaza]

same for the 45 deg flick

can someone do a reply analysis on this 1v1 gold 3 match? https://ballchasing.com/replay/46a93c8d-a7a5-4e39-b42c-d544199566c6

[marble bramble]

I can if you want

[unique plaza]

thanks

vc?

[marble bramble]

Sure just call me in dms

[unique plaza]

hold on im in a match

[marble bramble]

all g

[fathom ore]

Is there a way to free look on PC

[main hawk]

yooo

I mastered speedflipping in Plat 3

I know this bc I fully completed the speed flip training pack

and can consistently hit the ball

[meager gull]

Nice

[main hawk]

im still in Plat 3 but instead of focusing on mechanics im just focusing on positioning

[nocturne breach]

then you should be able to get to d3-c1 just by kick offs

[mortal quail]

Eh a lot of p3s and d1 can speedflip as well, still suck at kickoffs

[nocturne breach]

speedflip + flip in the center is 90% kickoff goal in those ranks lol

but yes i agree with that

they probably dont flip twice

[feral hill]

flip reset

[nocturne breach]

pov: the opponent is doing triple reset on you

pov: you try to disrupt their clip and they get the ball over you

pov: they are prepared to spam what a save on you but you decide to ff instead so they dont clip on you ( ff before they score )

lmao

never happened to me

they just insta skip my shots LOL

[outer tundra]

uh kinda new here is there some places i could see list of tips and stuff for starting out with this game? like resources channel

not exactly looking for troubleshooting help with the game it works fine if thats what you mean. just looking to uh understand this game a bit more. i played like 1 game and all i saw was people flying around with the ball

[cyan sage]

Hey

[outer tundra]

ohhhh i didnt notice the training section in the selection my bad ill go ahead and take a look at it

[cyan sage]

Just don't get scared from cars flying and don't get angry if u lose once 😭

[outer tundra]

oh its just that i didnt even get to touch the ball 😄

[cyan sage]

Work on it

Slowly progress up through the ranks I recommend trying to play some casual 1s it'll get you settled! Also watch youtube tutorials for newer places

[outer tundra]

any specific youtubers you would recommend?

[mortal quail]

Just avoid spookluke and you'll be fine

Most youtube stuff is basic

[golden ivy]

spookluke has some good advice

[mortal quail]

Hes very contradictory and can't stick to a style. Shows he doesn't know what he wants to say and just rehearsing

[outer tundra]

ah i see, is there specific place id look for to get other people to play with or just use looking for group in this server

[golden ivy]

i would use this server but verify their ranks first cuz i get c1s when im looking for c2-3a

[outer tundra]

i mean... i dont have rank and cant play ranked yet and from what i saw from my first game i shouldnt be playing ranked so id just rather have fun and play around

[golden ivy]

thats the most important part of video games

just have fun and learn the game

[outer tundra]

might have to play alone for now from the looks of it theres only rank requests/requirements

[nocturne breach]

NO

[golden ivy]

some

[nocturne breach]

HE HAS BEEN CORRUPTED, BRING THE HOLY WATER

[golden ivy]

NOOOOOOOOO

[nocturne breach]

YOUR EXORCISM IS ABOUT TO BEING

[golden ivy]

NOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOO

[nocturne breach]

spookluke's demon that possessed this body, the power of wayton compels you, leave this innocent person alone

now you are cured

[golden ivy]

phew

thanks

[nocturne breach]

np, always happy to save innocent souls

[mortal quail]

For now I'd just play the game and have fun solo, queue extra modes for fun

[nocturne breach]

extra modes are the best

people are missing out all the fun

[golden ivy]

dropshot was peak

[nocturne breach]

except gc dropshot, i was trash talked by ssls because i wasnt as fast as them 🗿

[golden ivy]

i was on my gc rank up game in snowday and there was a team of all ssl's

regular titles too

[nocturne breach]

after i got my snowday title i barely touched that mode

but is a fun mode

and blizzard wizard is even a cooler title 😎

[mortal quail]

I just suck at the game

So I'm bad at extra modes

[nocturne breach]

arent we all

[nocturne breach]

i believe in you ero, u can get gc in extras

i can coach you in rumble and snowday 🗿

although i didnt play them in quite some time

[mortal quail]

Snowday 💀

[nocturne breach]

the blessed snowday, of course

[golden ivy]

snowday is fun but my plat teamates arent

[nocturne breach]

this is a tip for everyone that is q'ing extra modes: if a game takes longer than 20 minutes to find, don't bother queueing 💀

if you are for example diamond, you will either run into bronze-silvers, either full ssls

[outer tundra]

will do. just though games are more fun when you have people to play with 😄

[golden ivy]

i queue them all at the same time so i get a game

[nocturne breach]

once i q'd in champ snowday some seasons ago

i was like c1 in snowday, waited 20 minutes for a game

[golden ivy]

dang

[nocturne breach]

i got put in a game with ssl snowday, gc3 snowday, gc2 snowday, and a single gc1 🗿

so basically they put c1 with ssl in the same game

if u want long enough

and i am talking about c1 and ssl in the exact god damn mode

one of the bros in the lobby told me he was queueing since 6 am

spoiler alert: was 11 am 🗿

[golden ivy]

dang

i agree

[nocturne breach]

NO, DELETE

hoops is pain

🗿

i can ground dribble the puck on the top of my car

and get reset out of it sometimes in the air

real

[golden ivy]

-_-

[marsh matrix]

😂😂😂😂😂😂😂😂😂😂😂

Ansiety has joined the chat

Yesyes

Spanish guy sorry

Yea, i want this tm8s, but diamond chassers or hight, plat chassers are just 3vs1

[vague mango]

Felt and then they get mad at you for not doing anything

Like literally all I can do is rotate and hope we don't lose

[marsh matrix]

I,m cool player, I bet i,m the crazyest diamond2 from Europe

I was in diamond like 6 months hitting champ, but no fixed tm8😭

[nocturne breach]

this game is far easier than you would ever think

as in, you dont have to do complicated stuff to rank up

you just have to relax a bit, and use the judgement

[marsh matrix]

Bro i,m 1 week away to be pro player

[tall peak]

😹😹😹

[nocturne breach]

real

[marsh matrix]

But i need a tm8 to win 7-1

Not 3-2 crying

[marsh matrix]

Search migvelox_Gold in yt

I,m not an oficial youtuber but i show my plays and sometimes try help the others

[nocturne breach]

phone recorded, seriously 🗿

[marsh matrix]

What do u want a 1v1 to show your losse

Don,t make me smile

[tall peak]

i smoke u

[nocturne breach]

in Dio's voice: "Oh? You're approaching me?"

[marsh matrix]

Cry

[tall peak]

😹😹😹

[nocturne breach]

crying of laughter

but i am still crying

he is gold

[marsh matrix]

Patt is your dad?

Ah ok sorry

[nocturne breach]

yes

[nocturne breach]

is ur fault too

lol

you have to play 1s

[median rapids]

Where do I find a tm8

Cheers

[tall peak]

dont overcommitt

and then u should be fine

😹😹😹

then let them

so just focus on ur gameplay and not theirs

[median rapids]

How do I make a group ??

@cyan sage

[mortal quail]

Learn to rotate

Position around your teammates

[severe mulch]

can any one coach me or give tips for 1s, please im plat, any advice would be really helpful

[hoary shard]

i can try my best!

to help you

[severe mulch]

sure please

[hoary shard]

wanna go in a call?

???

[severe mulch]

Okay sure

But i dont have a mic

[hoary shard]

ohhh

so what do we do then?

[severe mulch]

I can still hear you speak i guess

[hoary shard]

yeah... but still

what call do you wanna go in?

[severe mulch]

😦

you can call me in dms

[hoary shard]

vc*

[severe mulch]

#1204491968416317470.

hi

[hoary shard]

hi

[severe mulch]

uh so what now

?

[hoary shard]

join a private game

[severe mulch]

your user?/

[hoary shard]

k

[severe mulch]

?whats your username

so i can add ya

[hoary shard]

long name

[severe mulch]

okay ill jus match details

[hoary shard]

can i get you name

[severe mulch]

x4ray.

did you add?

[hoary shard]

yeah

[severe mulch]

didnt get a request

x4ray. with the period

[hoary shard]

k

[severe mulch]

Eu

[hoary shard]

im back

[severe mulch]

oh ok

#1204494245910548532

u start

[zenith delta]

I’ve had enough of getting flip resetted on how do I stop it

[tall peak]

play backboard and early chall

once u see them go for reset challenge

if they have a reset i wish u luck 😹

[mortal quail]

What walker said, play backboard, if teammate is behind you, early challenge

[severe mulch]

@nimble sundial are u on kbm?

[zenith delta]

I’m talking abt 1v1

Bros doing mustys from his back wall into a full field carry

[feral hill]

how flip reset

[nocturne breach]

with talent

[feral hill]

real

[zenith delta]

Get under the ball and get all your wheels on it

[feral hill]

how score

[zenith delta]

Hit

[mystic shore]

I need advice

I was a diamond 3 but rank reset put me d1 next season. I trained that whole season just so the next season which would be this season id go up quicker but i can't carry diamond 1s. They are so bad it's hard to work with them. Any advice (plz don't sterotipically say it's not your team mates it's U. If that was the case I wouldn't be hear asking help would I.)

[nocturne breach]

is not your teammates, is u

[coarse harness]

can someone coaach me ?

[severe mulch]

Can someone please coach me im so fucking bad

[mystic shore]

? I said don't.

[mystic shore]

I said don't do it.

[nocturne breach]

but is the truth

[mystic shore]

All the tm8s are literally wiffing simple aerials U learn in gold. Thing is tho they chase. So if that's the case should I just stick back into goal

[mystic shore]

No it's not. They are clearly less skilled or have less sense

[nocturne breach]

you rely too much on teammates, you arent prepared to play 2s, you cant expect diamonds to play like ssls, they are in diamond because they are bad, and so are you

[mystic shore]

Also how could I cope when I stay back in goal which works 9/10 but tm8s don't like it so they star bump or afk or scoreown goals

[nocturne breach]

you are probably less skilled than your teammates

[mystic shore]

No I don't think I rely on them. I always stick back so I'm chill. I'd rather stay back and chill let them do there thing as opposed to chasing and tryna score all the goals but then complain if the diamond wins ez save

Wifs*

When I stay back the back the times when tm8s try bumping U or afk or score own goals, should I just start playing passive aggressive? Play normal but be awear that I will need to get back because tm8s are likely not going to be there?

[nocturne breach]

play 1s, learn ranked mechs and being fast, push your way through the ladder, you wont find teammates to fit your expectations

[mystic shore]

I'm champ 1 in 1s

[nocturne breach]

and u are d1 in 2s?

[mystic shore]

I'm as fast as champs but if I play fast like U said U can't expect me m8s to be as good as ssls because they are diamomd

[nocturne breach]

are u c1 in 1s and d1 in 2s?

[mystic shore]

I'm c1 in 1s
D3 in 2s. I got rank reseted to d2 div 1 or d1 div 4 I believe. That way last season.and didn't play ranked so this season got rank reseted to bottom of the barrel d1 lol

[nocturne breach]

what is ur epic

[mystic shore]

Not sure. I play playstation so not sure

Lemme have a look real quick

[nocturne breach]

waiting

[nocturne breach]

i honestly doubt you are champ in 1s and diamond in 2s

[mystic shore]

Oh damn I got it wrong way round

I just noticed.

I was d3 c1 in 2s and d1 in 1s

Lol not sure how I got that mixed up.

[nocturne breach]

this is not how you phrased it

you tried to lie about that

[mystic shore]

No I put it wrong

Ok I confess

Lol

Ok the truth is

I was d3 in 2s and did get 2 lots of rank resets

I'm d1 in 1s.

[nocturne breach]

not a single diamond in this world is able to reach champ in 1s, unless they are 1s mains and dont play other modes

[mystic shore]

Yep

So I was d3 in 2s for 2seasons then rank rested down to diamond 1

[nocturne breach]

the same way you lied about 1s, you can as well lie about your teammates just to boost your ego, i can guarantee to you that you are the problem in your games

someone that deserves their rank can 1v2 people 2 ranks below them

if their peak was there, it doesnt mean they deserve the rank

[mystic shore]

My tactic is to score a ez 1st goal and then stay back and stick to 1 0. But if i do this it's either

1. 9/10 we win but sometimes like I said they bump or afk or score OG.

2. I try getting that 1st goal but. Because I'm playing like I have d3 tm8s I don't get. Goal and we end up 2 or 3 down and ff

[nocturne breach]

you might be d3 peak, but it doesnt mean u are d3 level, you might as well be d1-d2 level

that just happened to get to d3

to be considered a solid player of a certain rank you should hold your own in the majority of the games above the mid of that specific rank

[mystic shore]

Was d3 2seasons.tho. I can understand d2 but deffo not d1. They are too inconsistent

[nocturne breach]

in your case, d3 div 3 and 4

[mystic shore]

D2 it's normally 65 35

As in when I play d2 it's normally 65 35 in favour of winning d3 is very 50 50

Can we play some casual to see where I'm wrong?

[nocturne breach]

then d2 is your rank

no, you are giving them for free

[mystic shore]

I mean I know every player is different but sometimes in d1 my tm8s full boost to the ball then backflio then rotate back.lol and.totally give up posesion

[nocturne breach]

no one is interested

[nocturne breach]

things like that happen in every rank

is just that it happens more often the lower the rank is

[mystic shore]

True

@nocturne breach add me up. We can play cas.

To be perfectly honest I really do think I'm high d2 but every time I stick back I get to high d2 and then it gets more demanding. But then if tm8s are so bad I can't get that first goal then we rank down so literally if I have decent tm8 we win and bad tm8 we lose.

Now I know that sounds off becaus what would be like me saying I only win when I have a good tm8 but I mean only for the fi at goal part

First goal part*

[glass hollow]

I have a question here which might be too simple to answer, but my current consistency is in silver 3, whenever I pursuit to gold 1 I drop after some games. I feel like random queuing might be a reason for that, but is there any criteria from your point of view what makes me a silver player in terms of gameplay or similar? Reason I ask is that I usually get to a decent level in games quickly (playing for a month now), but don’t know how to actually progress at this low level stage and actually have not seen any diamond or platinum people to have a comparison.

[mortal quail]

Get down the basics of the game such as rotations, positioning, power clears, decent saving, shooting, (not passing), reads, and keeping control of the ball.

[astral sail]

any coaches available for gc1?

[glass hollow]

Would you just recommend like watching YouTube videos or similar to get to know these things better or is that more of a natural learning process through playing?

[astral sail]

watch flakes road to ssl no mechanics

[glass hollow]

Good to hear, thanks. Will probably need to find some people to play with

[mortal quail]

Both, mainly just playing

[dry marsh]

nah, just play ranked

[glass hollow]

Thanks all for your messages, appreciate that

[mystic shore]

Why is that when I play with d1 it's like they are silver and.when I put replay on YouTube GCS say they are dogshi* but when I play with gcs in 1v1 they say I play like diamond 1?

Essentially champs and.low.gcs think I play like d1 but when I show them replays they say I should be champ? They admit that diamond 1 is clearly below me but think I play like them?

Also how to deal with tm8s bumping afk and own goal scoring when U score the first goal and then stay defense. I stay back and.let them do there thing but they throw99% of people say stay back to get to champ but when I do they throw(I wa sd3 for ages but d1 due to 2 rank.resets

[fluid juniper]

well what rank are you?

[mystic shore]

I am diamond 1.

I was d3 for 2 seasons so I only played a few games for the next 2 seasons cus I wanted to spend 2 seasons in freeplay training but because I hardly played ranked I got rank rested twice from d3 to d1

1st rankreset was low d2
2nd wa slow d1

[fluid juniper]

so gcs think you shoukd be chamo

or what were u typing about

cause i aint reading all that

[mystic shore]

Low gcs say they couldn't see why I'm not in champ

But when they see my replays they say that the other people look like d1

...

[fluid juniper]

but ur playing in d1 lobbies correct

[mystic shore]

Correct

[fluid juniper]

so ur saying gcs say u should be champ but when they see replays they think ur bad

idk what ur saying my bad

[mystic shore]

When we 1v1 they think I'm champ

When they see.my 2s games they think my team mates are d1.

[fluid juniper]

maybe ur overall skill is just higher than ur tm8s

and tbh most of the time when gcs say u should be a rank , they just say some random rank

[mystic shore]

.
.
.
.
I choose to score a goal then stay back because I have good defense but they either try bumping me or afk or throw by scoring own goals

[mystic shore]

I play quite a lot with this GC so I doubt he would

[fluid juniper]

well how long has he been gc

[mystic shore]

4 seasons.

[fluid juniper]

interesting

well either way, u should be better than the lobbies your in so you should rank up ez

[mystic shore]

Thing is like I said if I stay back tm8s don't like it cus I'm "afk" lol

Or

[mortal quail]

I mean, most gcs highly overrated or underrate players skill

Playing like a rank isn't a thing

[fluid juniper]

^

[mortal quail]

Your either champ or your not

[mystic shore]

Trying to get that first goal can be hard because tm8 is gold lol and we end up 3 down and lose

[fluid juniper]

yessir @mortal quail is 100% correct

[mystic shore]

I think I'm d3 tbh

[fluid juniper]

but either way you should never just be back in net

[mystic shore]

Thing is when I play with champs it's 50 50

[mortal quail]

You said your d1, your name says d2

Make up your mind

[mystic shore]

Read abit above. It was explained

[mystic shore]

I ain't changed name in ages

[mortal quail]

Just pointing out the contradictory

[fluid juniper]

to be fair we all think we are better than we are but if your not winning almost all of your games then you dersever to stay there

[mystic shore]

No problem

[mortal quail]

But if you were champ level, you wouldn't be losing to d1

[fluid juniper]

^

[mystic shore]

But I don't think I deserve to be there. If I jumped in a c3 lobby and we kept losing cus I was "lost" is that there fault and does that mean they belong in diamodn?

[mortal quail]

Who's they, if they lose 1 game, its not a derank to diamond

[fluid juniper]

well its different to queue with higher rank or same rank

in ur case u were playing with a gc right

if that gc plays fast the whole lobby will start chasing and it will seem a lot harder

[mystic shore]

I'm trying to say that if I'm d3 nearly champ and playing with low diamonds due to my 2 rank resets (which I explained above) that me losing because they are weak players isn't my fault. Because if I wasn't rank reseted I wouldn't have been this low and now that I am in a rank that's slightly lower than mine that makes all the difference when tryna carry

[mystic shore]

True

So what's your advice.

If I play passive aggressive tm8s hate it and end up throwing like afk or score own goals or bump me

[mortal quail]

What difference does it make
Okay you got reset, now climb back
Why can you not climb back up with worse opponents

[mystic shore]

If I play normal it means I'm expecting them to play like a d3.and therefore means id start overcomponsating alot

[fluid juniper]

its not them its u

[mystic shore]

I've explained a few times lol

[fluid juniper]

well i can promise u if ur tm8s were good u still wouldnt rank up

[mystic shore]

Unless they are boosted silvers lol

[mystic shore]

Me?

[fluid juniper]

nah other guy

[mortal quail]

You honestly haven't, your just blaming teammates

[mystic shore]

Ah I was gonna say lol

[mortal quail]

When it's not

[potent glade]

any tips for rotations im stuck in d2 rn?

[fluid juniper]

cause even i think my gc3 tm8s are ass but even if they were good I know i would still lose

[mystic shore]

Bro iil expin again no problem.

If I play normal. It's me expecting them to be d3 and.because there not I'm overcomponsating leaving me to make mistakes.

Or

I play passive agresive(mainly defense but not in goal the whole time) and tm8s hate it saying bro can't shoot.

[fluid juniper]

dont worry too much about it at d2

all i can tell you is to not over flip or boost when you dont need to and most of the time you will be in right position

[mortal quail]

I recommend you play normal but smart
Don't overcommit when you don't need to, focus on midfield. Passive aggressive doesn't make sense. You can play passive and focus on counter attacks, the issue is if you get scored on. That's when teammates get mad

Teammates won't hate it if your winning

[mystic shore]

They think I'm hesitant or indecisive so they spam take shot and then if I don't it's a dunk on us. If.i.do.go for shot because he's only just rotated out I'm not gonna get there in time and it's a dunk.on me. 9/10 chance tm8 ain't gonna save

[potent glade]

yea ik boost managment and stuff decently well i think i just feel like im moving to fast but my friend said not to lower my sens or ill be to slow and bad

[mystic shore]

The thing is that's what I do . U see I play passive looking for counter attacks but like I said a few times. Tm8 thinks it's me being hesitant or indecisive

I get scored on because they bump me or afk or play for there team

[nocturne breach]

you dont have to jump for every shot, only when is a threat on the net, otherwise, just let them shot because they will likely roll the ball to you

[mortal quail]

Thats just bad challenging on your end, if your getting dunked, focus on the 50 and not getting completely slammed. Ignore the spamming, focus on counters and score open nets.

[fluid juniper]

u dont need to be supersonic all the time especially when facing forwards

[mystic shore]

No what I. Saying is I'm playing midfield and they go for 50. They will lose the 50 and spam take shot.

[mortal quail]

I highly doubt that happens, even when i sat in net I never had teammates throw

[fluid juniper]

just ignore them

[potent glade]

yea but i feel like im overturning or im jumping weird any like middle ground for sensitivity and deadzone recommendations cause im using 1.40 and 0.7 but it feels wack

[mortal quail]

Ignore the spam, it's not helping you

[mystic shore]

I wouldn't say throw on purpose.

U know when. U get those plats that have only a couple hundred hours and.make every commen mistake in the book like smacking every ball they can or hitting ball off corner which passes to the other team for example. It's just those type

[mystic shore]

Ok but if I ignore they get mad and bump me or play for the other team.

If I listen I'm just chasing and get dunked cus no way I can get midfield to the ball in time

[mortal quail]

You get that even in champ/gc lobbies
Its a very basic mistake, this requires you to be able to cover for them and save the shot. Again if your winning, teammates don't complain

[mystic shore]

Facts

[feral hill]

reset

[mystic shore]

I'm really good on defense so that's not the issue

[mortal quail]

Position wise, your probably play way too far, which makes teammate annoyed. However don't ever commit if you think your getting dunked. At least 50 to play closer

[nocturne breach]

idk what is hard about those ranks, you can just stay in the net in diamond-low champ and boom the ball, then is gonna be in

[mystic shore]

Hmm ok that's a start

[mortal quail]

Assume you suck at defense, you can always improve

[mystic shore]

Ok fairenough

[nocturne breach]

stay on the ground all the time, only jump for the ball when you can score it, or you have to defend if the shot is threatening, don't go for aerials

is easy win this way

[fluid juniper]

what controller

[mortal quail]

Defense can legit carry you very far, if you don't get scored on, players tend to be impatient

[potent glade]

xbox elite

[mortal quail]

Easy for mistakes

[fluid juniper]

xbox elite if tuff

i use .09 1.5

[potent glade]

fr

[nocturne breach]

that depends

[fluid juniper]

on ps5 i use 1.4 .06

[nocturne breach]

only happens if you are leading

and they need to score

but is a double edged sword if they put too much pressure on you, even if there's room for mistakes

[potent glade]

yea i feel like with xbox you gotta have it higher

[mortal quail]

Below c2, they don't know what pressure is

[mystic shore]

So perhaps my general issue is maybe I'm too focused on staying back thinking "ah it's alright we are 1 up, IL just play defense and ez w" and not playing as a team. I'm playing for myself because ei think I'm doing good but tm8s because they are lower skilled I need to be covering there mistakes which I'm not doing if I'm.playimg.defense?

@mortal quail

[mortal quail]

Nor how to rotate with it

[mystic shore]

Is that kinda what your suggesting

[nocturne breach]

true

[nocturne breach]

you are making it too complicated, the game is supposed to be played simple

[mortal quail]

I think your too focused on playing one specific way
For you it seems it's either full defense or full commit. That's not how the game is, cover for their mistakes as it makes it easier for you and your teammate to make plays

[mystic shore]

And therefore because they are lower skilled and make the mistakes that I'm not covering, I'm not there to cover which results in me thinking they are worse or throwing which technically they are but the reason we get scored on is not there mistakes.its actually me not covering them and is probebly why I'm still the rank I am?

@mortal quail

[nocturne breach]

you need mostly to focus on possession, the less they are on the ball, the less chances that they would score

[mystic shore]

?

[nocturne breach]

lmao

[mystic shore]

@mortal quail

D1 lol

[mortal quail]

Basically that, they are lower rank but so are opponents
Stop playing scared, your constantly thinking about your teammates when it's entirely irrelevant. Focus on just making it easy for you, yes they are worse, you are also playing a lot worse than you actually think. It's an ego thing and you need to lose it

Ffs bubba

[nocturne breach]

in diamond people have no idea what they are doing, dont expect to get any good teammate, just become better at the game and learn to be faster and more consistent, speed and consistency on a larger scale are the literal difference between ranks

[signal lintel]

Your mistake is trying to come up with a strategy that works in any matchup. You just need to adapt to the players on the field, it doesn't matter who is right when things are going wrong

[mystic shore]

Add me up. U can see what I'm like

[nocturne breach]

fr

[mortal quail]

Probably won't be able to see anything till the weekend, busy

[mystic shore]

Um broski. Im being considerate. I was simply agreeing what my issue was. That's not who inflating. It's understanding what I'm doing wrong and asking if indeed what I can hink my issue is, wether it is or not which the person responded yes

[fluid juniper]

ill do that after school

[mortal quail]

Its called not being an ass
You should try it

[fluid juniper]

dm me ur epic

[mystic shore]

Bro what U on about. I litrally just sat here took all there messages I to account and come up with a summery on what I think my issue is and why it is and they agreed. I was being considerate.

I know 90% of people are eroxic and think only themselves are right and just because they say they are they think it means they are right(they think oh if I say I'm the correct it means I am)

BUT

I'm not one of them.

To add do. To that did.u really just see someone admitting where they are going wrong and thought this guys got an ego?

I WAS ADMITTING I WAS.WRONG 😂

@mortal quail so what I said early is corect?

Basically long story short yes they are worse but me staying back all the time isn't helping them.

Bro let me finish

Also read previous message sbefore jumping in the middle of convo

@mortal quail are u basically saying that although they are worse than me that what's causing me to think they are throwing is actually me not being there to cover for there mistakes? Which is because I think we'll if I'm 1 goal ahead I should just play defensive, this playing formyself rather than a team?

Essentially I'm playing like it's just me on the pitch and then complaining when tm8s makes a comment mistake for there rank???

Because I'm playingfor myself rather than a team

[nocturne breach]

1. playing smart
2. being consistently mechanical
3. being smart + mechanical

if you are using one of the playstyle above and the level of that playstyle isn't higher than the entire lobby, you wont have a chance to rank up

[mystic shore]

I just want to know if what I'm thinking here is corect on what he's tryna say. Then I can continue reading what Ur sayingm I just want to know if what I said is true?

[signal lintel]

😭

[mystic shore]

Playing smart:

Tricky to say. I'm smarter than lobby in the sense that I'm playing defense and looking for there mistakes the. Tryna counter attacks but then I complain when they make a mistake when really I shouldnt be because I should be covering them. If I'm covering correctly then there's no news for me to get cross at there mistakes

[nocturne breach]

just think simpler about the game, teammate is not at the ball, chase it, teammate is at the ball, stay behind him and be ready to take action, work on consistency and speed, and boom, rank up, unreal????????????????????????

[mystic shore]

I don't think you read all the messages

Let me do a big summary again lol

[nocturne breach]

u are not playing smarter enough then

[mortal quail]

Jesus

Paragraphs

[nocturne breach]

poetry

[mystic shore]

Basically

Ha g on

@nocturne breach so what do U think is my actually issue

[fluid juniper]

lmao right

[mortal quail]

TLDR:
You may be better, but your plaustyle and mindset is severely limiting your skill, making you play a d1
Currently your skill is d1 because that's what your limiting yourself to

[nocturne breach]

now i understand where "hit the ball in the net" lines come from

[signal lintel]

This doesn't work because you are creating multiple 1v2 situations instead of playing as a team. You being near the play limits the options the opponents have (and increases the options your teammate has). That's basically what "pressuring" means. This is just how the game works, it isn't specific to matchups where your teammates is worse than you

[nocturne breach]

u think this game is some complex math puzzle no one has ever solved

just play simple

[mystic shore]

Because the way I see it is that I play as a team for the first goal then stick to defense. When tm8s loses position and it rolls to me I just boom it high and free goal. It's simple. Stay back because ei know they aren't gonna score won me and.wait intill there's a big mistake and capitalise 💥 boom.

[signal lintel]

Yeah that stops working around your rank for the reason I said above

[mortal quail]

Bad idea, why?
1 goal is NOT a good security
You can score 3 goals in 10 seconds very easily.

Plus, changing your style messes up your teammate, even when you don't need to

[mystic shore]

The issue to this is when I do this, even tho technically it's a good tactic I. The sense that I can be back for saving while for every mistake I can capitalise and boom it high. So essentially if iw as to overexagerate it's like having a brick wall at our goal and every time they mistakes I can score free open goal.

[mystic shore]

They don't like it

[mortal quail]

They don't like it because your not good at it

I camp net when I hit gc

Boring ahh playstyle

[fluid juniper]

do not do that against high ranks, i would take that ball every time

[mystic shore]

When I do this, int here heads it's me being indecisive or hesitant so they spam loads of take the shots.but because I don't do this they end up either bumping afk or playing for the other team.

[harsh cloud]

Man I wish I understood how people get so good at ones. I'm almost c2 in 2s, c1 in 3s and d1 in 1s. And absolutely everyone can speed flip and never screws up, never miss open nets, can air roll air dribble or reset everytime like they never screw up. Damn man been at it almost 5 years, practice everyday and I can only do that stuff in free play and still I screw up half the time. So discouraging

[mystic shore]

Plz explain why it's not

[mystic shore]

Yes but this isn't high ranked is it lol

[mortal quail]

...

[mortal quail]

Seems like your relying on unforced mistakes, instead of forcing mistakes and awkward touches

[mystic shore]

I think it's a good tactic. Litrally score 1 goal. Should be easy enough because I'm 2 ranks above them. And then stay back in our half. Let them do there thing and wait for. Mistake. Then free open goal boom. It can't get any better than that?

[signal lintel]

Maybe you're stuck in the mindset of "our team tries to score then the other team tries to score". If you push towards champ/GC, opponents will start actually using the space and time you give them to set up a good attack/shot.

[fluid juniper]

dont have that mindset bru, thats how u get bad habits

[mortal quail]

1 goal is not a good insurance, you get demoed or whiff and now it's tied, you aren't 2 ranks above, your the same rank. Stop assuming your better when your not

[modest tusk]

SUP

[mystic shore]

Yes but this is d1 we are talking about. To get out of d1 I could literally stay back save all the shots and while doing this every time there's a mistake in play I capitalise and score. Ez win. But like I said they don't like it because they think it's indecisive or hesitant and throw.

[harsh cloud]

@mortal quail no actually I have 0 offensive capability and rely solely on counter offensive. Force them to screw up and capatilize on it

[mystic shore]

That would be correct if I belonged d1 as I should be d3 it's no problem.

At the end of the day it goes like this (this is my overall stance on it

[mortal quail]

You....dont....belong....in....d3

Stop thinking that

[mystic shore]

Why

Why do U think I don't belong

[mortal quail]

Because your losing in d1

[harsh cloud]

If you belong in d3 you'd be in d3

[mystic shore]

Omg am I talking to a brick wall here

I swear people don't read every message

[mortal quail]

Dude everyone disagrees with you

[nocturne breach]

brings popcorn

[mystic shore]

I do realise I'm being considerate

[mortal quail]

I'm not readying every single paragraph of the same nonsense that is wrong

[mystic shore]

Listen to my reasoning

[floral vapor]

Whats up

[fluid juniper]

even tho u used to be d3 u arent in it rn

[mystic shore]

To get out of diamond I should be able to just stay back capitalise on mistakes corect?

[mortal quail]

Rare kraze sighting

[fluid juniper]

no

[mortal quail]

No

[fluid juniper]

to get out of diamond you obliterate your enemies

[signal lintel]

That's like saying a gold player could grind flip resets to rank up to plat. Like yeah they could but it doesn't make much sense long-term

[mystic shore]

Who said earlier to get to c2 at least just stay back?

[fluid juniper]

personally i would score 20 then chill

[floral vapor]

🙂

[mystic shore]

Ah I see what your saying

[fluid juniper]

dont have a playstyle for any rank

[signal lintel]

Is it pronounced craze or crazy tho

[fluid juniper]

just know when to be passive or agressive

[mortal quail]

No shot its crazy

[signal lintel]

Now that's epic

[floral vapor]

Kraze 🙂

[mystic shore]

Plz let me explain my thoughts process and let me know where I'm right and where I'm wrong. I will listen to everyone who thinks I'm wrong I just wanna get it out there first

[nocturne breach]

lol

[signal lintel]

🙂

[mystic shore]

I play passive aggressive in midfield. I'm waiting for mistakes because if I rush in I'm gonna be overcomponsating.

When I find a mistake and.a chance of scoring I take it and score.

Because I'm back all the time I'm back to save the shots

If tm8s accepts this we always win but most of the time they don't thinking it's me being hesitant or indecisive and.os they either bump me or afk or play for the other team or get toxic.

[mystic shore]

So far that's understandable corect? (I will explain why doing that is wrong tho)

[fluid juniper]

just overpower ur tm8s

[mystic shore]

It's not a bad tactic in the sense that your not chasing every ball. Your being mindful of awearness and capitalising when possible.

However because I'm doing this it means I'm not covering them. Let me explain

[signal lintel]

Use a heavier car so you can bump them out of the way more easily

[fluid juniper]

if i was in d1 lobbies i would just fuck them and do whatever i want;)

[mystic shore]

We haven't olayed

[supple shore]

join u w the popcorn

[fluid juniper]

but seriously the fact that you even have a plan @mystic shore is not good

[nocturne breach]

🍿

[dapper nacelle]

Someone play hoops w me

[supple shore]

🍿 🧈 🎥

[nocturne breach]

your pfp is my reaction when someone says they play hoops

[fluid juniper]

just freeplay get mechanical and slam every diamond

[supple shore]

LMAO

[dapper nacelle]

?

[mortal quail]

What does even passive aggressive even mean, diamonds will make a lot of mistakes, you should be able to score 4 goals within the first minute if you were able to score each time, also your strat isn't realistic, as you will also make mistakes. If your back all the time you shouldn't get scored on, so now you scoring a lot of goals and saving, how are you STILL losing. That last part doesn't happen, stop coping and you know it. It only happens when your losing because you can't save nor score

[fluid juniper]

^^

[dapper nacelle]

@nocturne breach was that supposed to be funny?

[nocturne breach]

🍿 🍿

[mystic shore]

Me doing this tactic means I rely on team mates to be the main 1st man all the time. I'm forcing him to play 1st so that I can capitalise on his mistakes where as on his end he thinks I'm doing nothing to.contriubte.

So even though in a certain way, yes, being passive midfield and capatiliseing.on mistakes.is good. It's not because I'm not thinking of it in a team work sense

[mortal quail]

Your also trying to justify a tactic when gcs are telling you that's bad

[mystic shore]

Not justifying simply saying why it's wrong

[mortal quail]

Thats what that means

[fluid juniper]

@mortal quail is correct, you shouldnt have a dedicated plan and if you can truly do things at will u would be in champ

[floral vapor]

You saying your playing on your half and covering offense and defense as 3rd (if its 3s idk what we on about)?

[zenith delta]

This bad game strat

[mortal quail]

2s

[floral vapor]

Still works

[mortal quail]

Bubba

[zenith delta]

Bro is just inviting demo plays lol

[mortal quail]

Be nice

No

You said the exact same thing

[nocturne breach]

that was the point lol, in a nicer way

[mystic shore]

So I'm corect? It's a bad tactic because although I think I'm playing passive aggressive and capitalising on mistakes, I'm assuming that every game is gonna be like that and because it's not I get mad that tm8s get mad which they have every right to be

[mystic shore]

Can U agree?

[signal lintel]

1v2 offense doesn't work, that's just not how the game works. Any benefit you see on defense is not worth the disadvantage you create on offense. It's that simple

[mystic shore]

Is this essentially true?

[nocturne breach]

play 1v1, no teammates

[mystic shore]

Facts

[mortal quail]

Its a bad tactic because you aren't a perfect player, it involves too much risk and no room for error. What if a teammate also plays passive, what then

[mystic shore]

So the reason I'm bad is because I'm assuming this tactic will work every single game???

[mystic shore]

??????

[mortal quail]

This has gone no where

[signal lintel]

Average diamond strategy

[mortal quail]

Its incredible

[mystic shore]

I'm tryna to work out if this is why you all think I'm wrong

[mortal quail]

What's your tracker

[zenith delta]

Yea man just rotate instead of relying on that tactic

And adapt to however ur tm8 is playing

[fluid juniper]

cause with the stuff u say u shouldnt be in diamond but u are?

[floral vapor]

Ive been not paying attention, can you give me a tldr on your point or position @mystic shore?

[mystic shore]

Right

[nocturne breach]

Darkcloudbeta7 is his

[mystic shore]

Ok thanks ulot

Thanks for explaining why Im.wrong

[mortal quail]

Your trying to rely on a tactic that isn't consistent by any means, you assume it's teammates fault on why your tactic isn't working, and cope

[mystic shore]

Facts

[mortal quail]

TLDR: above

[mystic shore]

I now.see why

[mortal quail]

We have been going in circles for like half an hour

What's the tracker

[nocturne breach]

i told you his tracker

[mystic shore]

@floral vapor long story short I think that by staying back and capitalising on mistakes is a good tactic because eim back for if tm8s mess up but also there to capitalise and.score.

But.like everyone said the fact I think this tactic will work every single game is why I'm bad

[signal lintel]

@mystic shore so what is your objective here? To find a non-standard playstyle that works in diamond solo queue 2s?

[severe arch]

did i see kraze

that was quite the knee slapper bubba

[nocturne breach]

did you come up with the name bubba as in bubba from dbd

[mystic shore]

Well my objective was to see why my tactic was bad which now I understand it's because I'm tryna do it every game expecting it's gonna work all the time.

So I guess what I should do is apply the same tactic but play as a team rather than strictly staying back just rotate correctly and play like a team

[fluid juniper]

no

never apply any tactic bru

[severe arch]

the answer is quite obvious

[mystic shore]

Explain?

[nocturne breach]

yeah

[fluid juniper]

thats how u become predicatable, dont have a fking tactic man

[zenith delta]

Bros looping

[fluid juniper]

if u always score and play back, good players will just let you boom and air dribble every time

[nocturne breach]

loop + flashlight = hook camped

[mortal quail]

Also, just because you score a goal, doesn't mean you change. Play the style that resulted in a goal, wait for enemies to adapt. Trying to predict is bad

[nocturne breach]

pro

[mystic shore]

Sorry that's not what I really mean. I mean the whole premise of not chasing and capitalising on mistakes. I think that is good mindset but the whole staying back nonsense is wrong????

[fluid juniper]

yes why would you ever stay back

[mortal quail]

It stopped working, thats why he's here

[fluid juniper]

even if your up one goal, if u stay back you just give them space

[zenith delta]

Just ball chase

Everyone just ball chase problem solved 👍

[mystic shore]

Well I thought by staying back because I was d3. I thought because I got rank rested twice and ended up d1 I thought well all I have to do is stay back wait for a mistake and score.

[fluid juniper]

personally if i played against u and u boom it and stay back id think ur scared

[mystic shore]

U know the whole defense is great offense

[mortal quail]

Also dude whats your tracker

[fluid juniper]

nah drive up and wait for a mistake, thats were the goals are made

[mortal quail]

This has gone no where

[mystic shore]

Right ok

[severe arch]

gameplay tips highlights

[fluid juniper]

fake challenge, put ur prescense in their face and let them know ur not scared and they will panic

[mystic shore]

It has. I understood my errors unlike other people who thi k only themselves are correct and now learning how to do better

[severe arch]

another stubborn player

[mortal quail]

Tracker

[mystic shore]

Really not stubborn if I'm admitting why I'm wrong

[zenith delta]

Woah relax dude

[severe arch]

then why are you yapping

this is rocket league not yapping league

[floral vapor]

Isn’t this how everyone plays or trying to play? I see this “tactic”everyday

[signal lintel]

Forcing a tactic/playstyle is a good way to learn when it works and doesn't work, but doesn't help you win in ranked short-term

[fluid juniper]

aight chill thats getting corny ...

[severe arch]

long time no see

[mystic shore]

Yes but that's the downside of it everyone does it. If U do the same things your not gonna be better then them am i

[fluid juniper]

yes^

[potent glade]

bro your still blaming your tm8s

[mystic shore]

Facts

[nocturne breach]

lmao

[zenith delta]

Who doesn’t blame tm8s tho

[mystic shore]

I really am.not. I've been admitting why I'm the one to blame for the last 45 mins lol

[potent glade]

just dont

if your tm8s bad just get good

[nocturne breach]

1s players

[floral vapor]

I mean at least at a high level theres a structure everyone follows, there might be slight variations but still the same skeletal base is there

[potent glade]

or work around them

[fluid juniper]

1s players are suicidal

not having a tm8 to blame:(

[zenith delta]

This why I play 1s every now and then

Trash tm8s

[nocturne breach]

they blame the ball

[potent glade]

simply get good

[nocturne breach]

pro

[fluid juniper]

im jealous of ones players

[mystic shore]

I think the issue is that I'm doing it every game. It's a double ended sword. Yes genuinely not chasing and capitalising on tm8s mistakes.is good. But just saying back in your half every game isn't good because your giving them all the possetion plus leaving tm8 in 1v2. That's what they are saying basically

[signal lintel]

My team is still trash in 1s tho

[potent glade]

here how bout this

[fluid juniper]

🙂 i feel u

[signal lintel]

Lol

[potent glade]

over we run 2s together and stream it to everyone else and see how you do

ez

[nocturne breach]

real

[mortal quail]

Unfortunately that's not what he said
Tldr: he has been trying a style of staying back and waiting, but it hasn't been working for him, why? Because his teammates assume he is bad and just bump, go afk, or throw (his words), we said playing too passive is very bad as he isn't doing anything to benefit himself or his teammate. He's getting scored on and not scoring

[potent glade]

ill do it rn ong

[mystic shore]

Yoo that reminds me once I was playing a d3 game and I completely wiffed as my thumb sliped of stick. Guess what tm8 said

[mystic shore]

Facts here. I should have clarified. Originally it's not what I said. I thought I was corect and they was wrong.

[zenith delta]

Stop whiffing

[potent glade]

FR

[mystic shore]

Nope bro said

Nah all good mate the ball went lateral. Hard save 😂😞 i

[potent glade]

CMON LETS RUN 2S OVER

[mystic shore]

😂😂😂

[potent glade]

im d2 rn

[zenith delta]

Yo know what bro im bout to start ranting

[mortal quail]

No

Please

[signal lintel]

You got me with that one, I was expecting something toxic enough that you get auto banned from this discord

[mystic shore]

What do U mean lateral. If I wiff the ball I can't use an excuse that the ball shifted a direction opposite the way I wasgoing lol. That's like me hitting a ball left and saying not my fault it should have gone right

[zenith delta]

I need all my tm8s to actually learn how to not get dunk on kickoff

Cheat in a way where they don’t get destroyed

Rotate back and start cutting me off

[mystic shore]

Lol nah all good.

[potent glade]

hes dodging

[zenith delta]

Stop leaving for boost before we escape pressure or the play is even over

[potent glade]

its ggs hes doodoo