#gameplay-tips

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modest elbow
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why is my english so bad today

flint plaza
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speedflip is not by rank,
it's by how consistent you are with it,
start by aiming with just a side flip (try to get perfectly accurate)
then a diagonal flip,
then maybe you can grind speedflips in training until you can get it everytime

modest elbow
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speed flip be weird

flint plaza
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for air dribbles they can be the same thing (practice the basics of it until you get consistent)
but I prefer not learning it below diamond ranks or maybe high diamond

rose basin
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quick question
Is lfg your rank or who you're looking for
cuz I really want to 1v1 a champ or higher in a private match, not a gold

flint plaza
tepid talon
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tips to get out of champ?

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c1 c2

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now i do over commit alot but im really good on ground to air dribbles so that stuff is easy when they give me space

echo stirrup
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Can someone send me info on exactly what one should train to get better in all rabk departments

echo stirrup
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Anything

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I just don't want to train useless things and end up a forever low ranker

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If there's a guide to a fast track development I'd love that

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I figure if I have a plan I'd progress so much faster

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Gold-1 atm started 2weeks ago just got fast Ariel's to a usable state

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Thanks something like this

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Yeah I'll try to strive to learn them all

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In any order?

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Thank you so much I'll strive to work on those. Tourneys starting now

flint plaza
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@echo stirrup

echo stirrup
pearl echo
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tips to get out of plat

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i can sometimes do speed flips, power hits and aerials

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as long as its already in the air i cant start it

lapis compass
# pearl echo tips to get out of plat

practice your setups and pops on the ball so you can pop the ball in the air make sure you practicebasic defensive skills and shadown defence as well as backboard defence if you feel confident enought try to ease your mind and not panic in defence as well as practicing dribbles flicks and positioning. don't only rely on aerials but keep in mind they are a good way to outplay opponents that don't necesserily know how ti aerial

lapis compass
pearl echo
dusky fiber
lapis compass
# pearl echo i try and panic then leap off when i see someone coming for it

don't panic. i know its easier said then done but if you need a boost in confidence its easy to just position your car on the backboard and let the ball touch upper side of your roof to make sure it slides towards the corner of the field off the bakcboard the corner in youyr side of the field is the safest placethe ball can be in\

pearl echo
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if i could id send clips where i did good but something was wrong

lapis compass
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sure if you want me to point out things you could improove then im more then willing to \

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you can either dm me or ping in clips

pearl echo
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alright ill dm you but theres music playing in some and its pretty loud

lapis compass
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its fine i need no sound to analyze it

lapis compass
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what gamemode you try to improove?

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aight what seems to be your problem and what you want to improove

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the key to hit powerfull shots is to iam at the ball with a front corner of your car wich generates the most power but as well as a well timed flip in the ball ( ther eis also something called a Hookshot ) the hookshot doesnt use flip very often but its all about making a turn into the ball at max speed and hitting it with front or corner and then its just a matter of practice to master it

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dm's

potent meadow
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Everytime I play the game I always seem to backflip instead of front flip I just wanted to know if there is any way to stop this

golden ivy
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push your stick forward

serene flicker
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Does someone feel like coaching a c2.....pretty please?

hushed storm
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Do I ball chase at c2?

formal geyser
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i have a question for a good player, its about free air roll and left air roll when learning it. It only take 2 minutes or so

jaunty flare
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im ssl i can help rank up

formal geyser
eager patio
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anyone here have any tips for jakze resets, can do them but i cant get it off a reset

atomic mirage
hushed storm
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Alr thanks @oak totem

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You just said no?

golden ivy
tepid talon
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can anyone help me get into champ 2 im div 4 rn

low rain
# hushed storm Do I ball chase at c2?

despite the goofy answers of outright "yes" here. ballchasing isn't black or white, you probably attack some things you shouldn't but 2 things, #1 not many people don't ballchase at all, and very few people truly ballchase to a debilitating degree, usually people who main 2s doing 3s, or main 1s doing 2s+...etc

finite latch
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/looking-for-group platform:Any players:1 region:EU (Europe) playlist:Ranked 2's rank:Platinum 1 division:Division III mic-required:No - doesn't matter

vestal valley
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my controls are
Jump X
Boost Circle
Powerslide Square
Ballcam Triangle
Air roll left L2
Scoreboard L1
Drive forward R2
Drive backwards L2
Air roll right R1

my question is do I put middle finger on R2 and index finger on R1 but on my left hand index finger on L2?

low rain
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ngl im not reading all that. but what i will say is "scoreboard l1" dafuq

vestal valley
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ya what else do i put it on lol

low rain
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an options button

vestal valley
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i dont use L1 so

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wdym options button

low rain
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guess it depends on your platform. but on pc, i just set scoreboard to "share" button on my ps4 controller

vestal valley
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yea i play on pc too

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ok well still my question remains the same

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idk how to put my fingers on my controller

deft saddle
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Hi

low rain
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im fairly confident people can't tell you how you "should" hold a controller lol

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i think most people don't bind L1 to weird shit, and just hold the controller symmetrically

tepid talon
vestal valley
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just the L1 part

low rain
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idk what skill level you are, but having air roll bound to reverse button makes me sad.

golden ivy
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imo

low rain
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yes it does

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trigger = a range of movement, button = 100%

vestal valley
low rain
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im saying this as if high level players do this

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idk what to tell you, im not plat?

vestal valley
golden ivy
low rain
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... its a keybind. if you are going to learn it, might as well do it to start lol.

vestal valley
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id say im diamond3-c1 on controller with like 20h playtime

ocean citrus
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Does it make sense to switch from the keyboard to the pad after 1650 hours?

low rain
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im not sitting here saying its a suggestion for new players. but there is legit reason to bind air rolls to triggers

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i think your misunderstanding. having it bound to a trigger, means you have better control of your roll. you can roll at 1/3 speed. you cannot do that with l1/r1,

vestal valley
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Jump X
Boost Circle
Powerslide L1
Ballcam Triangle
Air roll left L1
Scoreboard Square
Drive forward R2
Drive backwards L2
Air roll right R1

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like that?

low rain
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i don't do it, but it absolutely makes a difference, hence why there are quite a few players/pros who do it

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im not saying it should be anything. im saying there is purpose to it being l2 lol. you said there wasn't

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until 5 months ago i used normal air roll and no directional lol. keybinds are preference

golden ivy
vestal valley
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stg might as well stick with kbm its so much easier

low rain
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ik you asked to a degree, but i find it funny people a lower rank than you telling you what keybinds you "need"

rose birch
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Im silver and have terrible defence what should i do

prisma oak
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are rings the best way to learn tornado spinning

golden ivy
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probably replace air roll left on l1 with air roll because you dont need both directional air rolls

low rain
ionic monolith
prisma oak
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alr thx

vestal valley
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its so weird why would i need free air roll if i have both directional

golden ivy
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^

ionic monolith
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I have both directional and I never use neutral

low rain
vestal valley
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i prefer left air roll so im just gonna keep left on L1 and use R1 for free air roll then

ionic monolith
vestal valley
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what deadzone should i use tho

golden ivy
ionic monolith
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The only thing I was trying to say is that it is preference. It won’t make you any worse if you have two directionals or 1 directional and neutral. There’s ways to make it work either way

vestal valley
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i use 1.48 1.48 0.07 0.80

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dodge deadzone

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idk lol

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what is it recommended to be, like what radius

low rain
# ionic monolith C2

ya. i mean kinda starts being important around there as well, but if you don't have an air roll on a trigger at least id be surprised if you find you are very controlled in the air.

typically you are only gonna get the ability to fine tune shots and place them really well if you have something to make small adjustments, either having neutral air roll (most popular) or at least having directional on an analog trigger to be able to slowly roll into a shot cleanly.

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probably not a setting you have to care about. if you manage to not accidentally neutral flip you can set it to 99 lol

vestal valley
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lol i honestly feel no difference between 0.5 and 0.8

ionic monolith
vestal valley
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wait do u mind explaining to me what it even does

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i have no clue what deadzone does i heard its something with ur joystick

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controller deadzone and dodge

low rain
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as someone who can flick perfectly fine at .80 mind explaining to me how it matters? it literally just sets the range of motion that the game registers you want to flip in a direction rather than neutral flip. as long as you aren't neutral or feelsflipping = great

chrome cypress
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If I put the dead zone to 2.00 for both is it good?

prisma oak
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wait holdup is .2 too low for controller dead zone

low rain
prisma oak
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squishy had his at .2

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what should it be at then lol

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so 0…

ionic monolith
low rain
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typically if you wanna set your own settings, google "pro rocket league settings" click liquidpedia, and just mind the ranges they use, find a good number between them

vestal valley
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omg i cant get used to powerslide L1, i keep opening scoreboard mid game on accident cuz powerslide was square

wheat edge
low rain
ionic monolith
prisma oak
chrome cypress
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Rocket league is ezz it just if u get use to ur settings and keep playing it u will be good at it

low rain
chrome cypress
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I started the game before like 4 months and I’m already diamond 2 i think because i hade good settings from the beginning

vestal valley
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dpad is the thing above the playstation button right

prisma oak
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so i take it 1.2 for steering and aerial send is too low as well

eager wing
low rain
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pffft, coming from the guy talking about 10ms not mattering, that is a bad reason for dodge deadzone to matter "a lot" for flicks btw

ionic monolith
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I have scoreboard on LS

chrome cypress
vestal valley
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wait u mean the arrows? i use that for quickchat

fading tartan
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the best way i got better at the game was to play against people who are wayyy batter than you and after a month or 2 of getting used to it youll dominate the rank your in rn

vestal valley
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do people not? wtf

low rain
prisma oak
ionic monolith
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I just spam Okay. The whole game to piss every one off

prisma oak
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ok lol i changed it to .07

eager wing
prisma oak
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next yall will be telling me that i shouldn’t be using square and triangle for my air roll left and right

eager wing
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rw9 uses 2.5 (or 2), which I can barely fathom, but its either his gamepad sensitivity, or hes cooking smth else

prisma oak
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kidding kidding lmfao

low rain
prisma oak
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well they clearly know what they’re doing better then i do

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cuz i’m gold

eager wing
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just keep playing and you'll find whats better for you eventually

ionic monolith
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I had a gc2 tell me I can hit gc if I get good😎

low rain
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you keep arguing things im not saying. because you didn't understand that it wasn't for changing directions, it was for fine control, which believe it or not. is important if you want an easier time aiming. not really a "niche" thing, again though. you said it was useless, i was just explaining the factual purpose

but im not arguing dodge deadzone affecting aerials, you said it "matters a lot" for flicks.... which i mean if you said it can effect maaaaybe. but its infinitely purpose is to avoid feelsflipping. its not a stat you really need to care about until you start feelsflipping

low rain
ionic monolith
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He said my mechs and defense are good enough but there’s a lot of decisions I’m not making correctly

low rain
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accidentally flipping when you meant to neautral flip

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does it matter from plat - champ 2 probably no. but almost literally any setting doesn't lol, especially having deadzone low to flick (not important at all, not even niche)

but especially at higher levels being able to fine tune your movement is important, and you can't tornado spin with normal air roll. so yes a variable speed tornado spin is useful to enough people that quite a few do it

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directional air roll itself was in the same place couple years ago. because mechs weren't at that level yet

modest temple
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Yo, lf tips to push from c1-c3 in 2s.

eager wing
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  1. dont be a whiny bitch
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  1. play calm
  2. turn off chat
  3. relax and have fun
low rain
# modest temple Yo, lf tips to push from c1-c3 in 2s.

around c1, learn to actually clear the ball or keep control of it while you clear it, try to rotate far post and not crowd the play.
your clears shouldn't immediatly be an opponent possesion in your own half.
otherwise. gotta shoot me a replay...etc

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once you start getting closer to c3, not double committing, not taking low % to score shots that instantly give away possession, maintaining your momentum so you can rotate fast...etc become more necessary

cyan sage
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Does anyone have any tips to get to diamond in 1v1s?

native escarp
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Can someone coåch me?

delicate flume
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who wants to train/practice on call

modest temple
ionic granite
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Can someone coach me 🙏

signal lintel
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@modest temple here's some stuff to think about

bright tundra
signal lintel
hushed storm
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Rl is so hard man

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Any tips for c1/2

undone goblet
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AGAIN!!??

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what did they get u for this time

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2nd one this week

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yh my bad

strong river
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Can I somehow share my replays?

undone goblet
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if ur on pc yes

strong river
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Yeah im on pc

undone goblet
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u just want to send them through discord?

strong river
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yeah

undone goblet
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Document-My Games-Rocket League-TAGame-Demos

strong river
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Then just drag them to te chat?

undone goblet
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notm here you would get banned

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but yeah drag them to whoever u want to send them to

strong river
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Alr

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Thanks

undone goblet
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npnp

cyan sage
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can some1 coach me? im c1 in 2's and d2 in 1's

ionic plover
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Is it possible if anyone help me or give me advise about how to find the right sensitivity? I used to play with PS4 controller, but I switched to Xbox controller and I can't control my car no matter how I try to change the sens. (I am c1 division 3 rn)

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what is the max dead zone I use?

undone goblet
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bubba giving actual good advice!!?

ionic plover
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Because In ps4 controller I didn't mind playing on 0.05. But with the xbox one it's like I can't make small movements

summer hedge
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hey can anyone help me with my breezi flicks?

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I cant get the timing right

timid hollow
summer hedge
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can I just post a video and you tell me whats wrong

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I have been practicing for so long

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no

timid hollow
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then practice it and get consistant

summer hedge
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I have i just dont know what happening ive seen so many videos

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its like my flick always goes too high

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I have fym

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I can

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practise doesnt make perfect, perfect practise makes perfect

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what

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if you can't comprehend what I've written maybe you need to pay more attention in class...

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written*

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you don't understand the saying "perfect practise makes perfect"?

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if I can't do a mechanic and i keep practicing without knowing what im doing wrong why should I keep practicing?

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they made it dip shit

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they're like pros how tf am i meant to figure it out

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and hes a pro ik

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well im not fuckin gc am I

ionic plover
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@cyan sage u sound like Andrew tate XD.

summer hedge
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god you're cringe

ionic plover
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But training with a professional will help you to be better

north tusk
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Ye

ionic plover
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XD

tawdry gyro
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literally every time a game goes into overtime, I lose, what the fuck am I supposed to do

tawdry gyro
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have teammates who can actually win, that would help

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I'm not good enough to 1v3 lol

fallow jay
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like seriously though what were you expecting? anyone to say the games rigged after it goes into OT?

tawdry gyro
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I think I was partly just venting, although it is a hopelessly general question really

fallow jay
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alri but yeah no everyone gets nervous in OT

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stupid shi happens

tawdry gyro
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I've just met you and I already despise you.

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Yeah, I'll give you that one, I try to keep the salt at bay but this time I think it just caught up

fallow jay
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getting mad never helped anyone

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youd be better off thinking about what went wrong after every goal, even if its OT

undone goblet
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what was that even supposed to mean

umbral crag
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npc comment fr

haughty lynx
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hi is anyone gc3/ssl that can help me a bit coaching wise, i peaked 1600 and i havent improved in a couple seasons and ive been forced to solo q/ find teamates here and im outclassing all c3s but im not winning. i got mechs but no gamesense and i need help pls <3

signal lintel
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Any questions?

haughty lynx
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doesnt work

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doesnt work

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done that xd

normal hatch
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can anyone hop in a game or a vc with me and help me learn how to play the game?

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Im playing the game

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but like theres alot of modes, which one would be the best mode to help me improve, I plan on playing solo mostly, so probably 1vs1?

fallow jay
normal hatch
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even if I dont have another duo?

fallow jay
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nah

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lil bro what rank are you

normal hatch
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alright, also I know its normal for most people to just run octane, but is there a big disadvantage to using the other vehicles?

fallow jay
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throw the numbers

normal hatch
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uhhh tbh Im kind of enjoying the takumi

fallow jay
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sure you do buddy

normal hatch
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it seems weirdly fast compared to the other vehicles

fallow jay
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bro youre literally like diamond max dont even

normal hatch
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is alright for me to play with takumi? even its not the most popular/recommended? I just enjoy using it tbh

fallow jay
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bro you all can barely play the game what are you sayyinngg

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yup

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sure is

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bro can only see a year back and thinks he knows everything 💀

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youre mid

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stella bro you didnt know how to speedflip 2 days ago

robust otter
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i can't hit speedflips any advice?

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nah but like fr i could before but now it's literally impossible

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help

fallow jay
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bro has still refused to send me his profile

normal hatch
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🧍‍♂️ so uh

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well other than improving in actual matches, is there like training modes that are better?

fallow jay
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did stella just get banned?

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besides the fact thats lowkey funny, what for??

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deserved then

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nah but i fr want to know what experience youre talking from if you feel like 1s is actually better for improving

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thats fair right?

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but are you like actually ssl? or

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where are you going to learn how to aerial in 1s

normal hatch
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uh

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when it hits the wall am I wrong?

fallow jay
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not really, i got to c1 in 1s without using boost once

normal hatch
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I mean Im ngl my aerials are horrible, but I havent played long at all so

fallow jay
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c1 is 1s is like c3 in 2s right

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yes its terrible, but it still takes a WHILE to get to

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you cant go all that time without knowing how to aerial usually

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that doesnt mean they mained 1s from the beginning

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maining 1s from the very beginning gets you nowhere

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i mean id love to believe you but really cant without knowing youre actually good at the game

gray barn
fallow jay
gray barn
umbral crag
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?

fallow jay
umbral crag
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a balance of both. 1s is really good for working with on ball stuff but 2s3s are better for practicing off ball (see shade for ex who is like ssl 1s and loses in c3 2s)

umbral crag
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it's this ^

umbral crag
fallow jay
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this is such a stupid discussion anyways

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someone literally just asked 'what mode should i start out playing' or smtn and all i said was '2s is the most played mode so id say 2s'

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of course they all have their benefits

undone goblet
umbral crag
fallow jay
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aerials are a fundamental part of the game

umbral crag
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in c1 1s ppl just hand the ball lol

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you don't need to aerial. at most double jump

fallow jay
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thats... what i said

umbral crag
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even more so in 2s

visual ridge
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I need help with air rolling

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Sooooooo

umbral crag
normal hatch
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🧍‍♂️ someone wanna hop in a vc in a lil bit and they walk me through learning and improving?

visual ridge
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YES PLEASEEEE

fallow jay
umbral crag
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you are overestimating the skill that gc1s have

fallow jay
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they can kind of hit the ball

visual ridge
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Yes please I need help with air rolling and air dribbling

fallow jay
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im not, gc since season 3

visual ridge
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😐

fallow jay
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am i though?

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not really lmao

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ive just gone through it as well, ive not really played much for the past 4 seasons, every season before that is gc or gc2

undone goblet
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send tracker

fallow jay
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ionno what youre on about

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im not even asking you to believe me bro but youre just saying random things at this point, literally go through it

undone goblet
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all dutch rl players have an ego its normal bubba

fallow jay
fallow jay
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yeah happens, unfortunately

umbral crag
undone goblet
fallow jay
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... i give up you guys have fun with your convo

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this is too toxic to be around

umbral crag
fallow jay
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you literally called me braindead the msg before

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hypocrite

ionic monolith
fallow jay
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and then you say i have an ego

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💀

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swapping controllers and not playing much for periods of time/playing a lot sometimes

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wasnt really playing much last month

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not even 1 game per day

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theres on average more than 1 week between my games in the past month except like the past week bro

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10 days* if you want to be precise

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if you actually want to get anything from this convo except getting a reaction out of me take it to dms, ok?

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then why are you still talking

normal hatch
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can someone hop in a vc with me and help train me a bit? I just got into the game for the most part, so Im not too experienced but would greatly appreciate some help

gray barn
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train up boy

undone goblet
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who would have thought bubba and dutch guy are still arguing

normal hatch
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you can be like yoda

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or smthn

gray barn
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what rank r u

normal hatch
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unranked 🧍‍♂️

normal hatch
undone goblet
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i feel the exact same

gray barn
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You*

normal hatch
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i think so

gray barn
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Blud what

normal hatch
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I hit my first decent "Aerial" and the guy quit after (:

tepid talon
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blud you got banned again?

patent flame
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is hittign a 0 kph shot hard

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hitting*

tepid talon
patent flame
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have u hit it before

quartz junco
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any1 know how i can look further back in the graph in tracker network?

tepid talon
normal hatch
quartz junco
gaunt path
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could any champ or grand champ coach me?

tepid talon
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alr well you do you delete the message so they dont know

gray barn
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What in the what

alpine cove
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pls help im hardstuck diamond

river coral
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Can anyone coach me who is champ or higher I’m hardstyck diamond 1 but feel I am better than that just dm me

gray barn
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Shush

gray barn
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I have been for hour

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Me

hardy idol
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holy yap fest

gray barn
hardy idol
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womp womp

gray barn
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Kidding

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Funny right🙌🤮

sick oyster
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Alr i can finally consistently get a reset but i dunno what to do with it to get a effective shot on net

gray barn
ionic monolith
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I don’t think he was asking for advice. Although you are right

sick oyster
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Also how do i learn pre flips in the air to hit the ball

sick oyster
ionic monolith
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It’s typically a diagonal flip

ionic monolith
sick oyster
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But like when to do it

vast sky
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@clear jackal

ionic monolith
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When the ball is too low or too far away for an air dribble

gray barn
cyan sage
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hello people

ionic monolith
gray barn
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You out of silver yet?

grand holly
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Bubba back. I saw your message and I went to respond and you got banned.

gray barn
grand holly
grand holly
plucky egret
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I dunno, that seems pretty cool to me...

grand holly
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Good point.

wild stratus
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can someone help me get better

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im plat

grand holly
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Link your profile and you can see games other people saved with you in them.

oblique belfry
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just lost me plat wit a random

gray barn
grand holly
gray barn
gray barn
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Yeah I’m super good I beat Nexto with medium mechanics so

river coral
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Hi guys, I’m hard stuck diamond 1 and was wondering if anybody could coach me who is high ranked Dk me if interested

peak merlin
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💀

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Chat has died

wooden halo
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Yo does anyone want coaching

pliant umbra
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me

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me

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me

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me

main urchin
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calm

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@wooden halo you got a taker

pliant umbra
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my bad but i could use some coaching it would mean alot to me

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if anyone would want to coach me lmk

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😄

little chasm
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coaching anone except anyone named Ryderplays_ttv

terse ocean
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I stucked in d1 anyone who is higher rank want to coach me ?

sweet pasture
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I’ll 1v1 anyone lower then champ, and critique the gameplay live
(I’m bored)

visual yarrow
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me?

sweet pasture
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Sure

hardy idol
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you dont play enough you arent smart enough you dont have the determination to be a pro

thick flame
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Why can’t I see my rank when I choose Comp

echo stirrup
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Has anyone else bound directional down as reset shot? I'm a noob done get me wrong but it seems so vital to me for training shots especially in training packs you unconsciously train both sides of the same shot with every reset and I feel like it helps with developing a sense of a skill too

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You also have to have directional down as mirror shot but that's default I think?

mortal quail
echo stirrup
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I ha e air roll there

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I put score board on my left toggle click

mortal quail
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I forgot default is lb
Change it to one of the center buttons on your control

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Left toggle click then

echo stirrup
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I like it on my directional down button since I can't chat in training anyway

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And it's just unconscious at this stage

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Unless you don't have chat on the directional buttons?

serene lava
thick flame
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I mean like the comp playlist where it says trips/duos/solos. Shouldn’t it show a rank your in for each?

serene lava
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but it showed me everything unranked once and after playing the playlist i saw the rank for it

thick flame
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Nothing 💀

civic pendant
jaunty flare
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im ssl i can help rank up

warm talon
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Any tips for flip reset musty?

ocean sandal
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LF free coach (DM ME)

keen igloo
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down to help some guy rank up (from bronze to d3)

lapis compass
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Morning everyone

lapis compass
# warm talon Any tips for flip reset musty?

step1. learn how to get flip reset

step2. get consistent with getting the reset

step3. get consistent with the movement foir the musty after getting the rest

step4. trial and error untill you get it down

lapis compass
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my dms are open

keen igloo
lapis compass
keen igloo
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its ok, english isnt my first language so it was hard to understand ahahah

cyan sage
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yo i need some tips in 1s dm me if u can and vc if u can

hushed storm
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What rank are you?

lapis compass
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depends on what exactly you are lacking would be nice if you told me qwhat you struggle with mechanicaly and in terms of gamesense

lapis compass
cyan sage
lapis compass
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alrighty. so to hit platinum i will tell you overall what yopu should be able to do and you tell me what you can't okay?

lapis compass
cyan sage
lapis compass
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  1. flips on kickoff, powerslide usage, simple short dribbles , front flicks, basic aerials decent defence ( simple ) patience, powershots ( simple ) , backpost rotations and collecting several small pads when lacking boost
lapis compass
# cyan sage Any tips for 1s tho

Depending on your playstyle but most important 50/50 good kickoff preferably speedflip, patience, good defence, decent flicks from midfield mindgame fakes.

to rank up you have to understand your opponent is better than you it will vget better 50/50's and overall might be more consistent so play patiently focus on good boost management pacing and defence ( shadow defence ceiling challanges andf backboard controll, if your opponent early challanges you have to make sure yopu can put a powerfull flick even if it is over the net

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make sure you know wavedashes and use a lot of powerslide to recover what might help get an advantage is walldashes ( its a surprisingly easy mech to master )

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if u are consistent with airdribbles also could go for airdribble bumps but don't overuse it cuz ppl gonna start reading your play if you never switch it up, be uinpredictable

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go for all kinds of plays , drbbnles bumps fakes air plays boumnce dribbles to powershots cuts and more the more unpredictable and annoying you are the better

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Your own corner of the field is your best friend use it to tall time and gain boost

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(radio silence for 2h ima head home from work )

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any mkore questions dm me

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today i have one slot open at 10pm utc+1

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yes free

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Poland

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not sure yet

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dm i will get back to you in some time

warped moat
lapis compass
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Everything below gc

lapis compass
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Go i belive in ya

mortal quail
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when people say dont blame teammates, they mean dont blame teammates for your rank
yes teammates will cause you to lose games, but youll rank up without or with those mistakes

timber karma
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sometimes they make those mistakes because they arent believing much in you, can be the same for you but in the end they are not in fqult for ranks ig thats exactly the same what ero said

lapis compass
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Be patient.

signal lintel
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Because they think they're supposed to be a higher rank but stuck because of bad teammates or whatever excuse. Or they actually just don't care if the aerial is going to help their team

low rain
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not to mention lower ranks who think they can do fancy shit in the air typically do it very slow and don't maintain control. which makes it useless at higher ranks where you get challenged sooner.

visual yarrow
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fennec or octane

grand holly
# visual yarrow fennec or octane

Pros prefer fennec overall, but the differences between the two are so minuscule that it is largely irrelevant to anyone below the highest level. Whatever you feel more comfortable on, use that.

visual yarrow
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@grand holly any tips for getting out of plat ive been hardstuck for 2-3 years

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i can partially air dribble 60% of the time

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i dont use directioanl air roll

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i can wave dash

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ext

stable rose
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someone like champ 2 and wanna play

visual yarrow
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ur gold 3 div 4

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?

young wolf
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Is anyone going play rocket league

median sierra
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ye

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i am

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ohh

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nice

young wolf
sage ridge
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Why my chat been deleted

young wolf
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rankin what

median sierra
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sure

cyan sage
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oi

young wolf
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oi

median sierra
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im bad tho

ebon shard
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any tips im new and i play kbm

median sierra
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7-2 me lol

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any bad players wanna hop on doubles

frozen adder
median sierra
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plat or lower

frozen adder
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Ouch.. I’m way worse than that

median sierra
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same

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what rank r u

frozen adder
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I’m pretty sure I’d just piss you off..

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I’m silver 2

median sierra
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nah ur good

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ight

young wolf
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play?

median sierra
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sure

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lets hop on chaos

young wolf
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epic name

frozen adder
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Tricano2

median sierra
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either Redfire_67 or Thunder wolf323

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i sent u one

frozen adder
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Wtf.. how do you get ride of epic friends??

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I have two many at like 5…

young wolf
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@frozen adder come

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nice car

median sierra
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@young wolf add me is he in your lobby

young wolf
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@median sierra It isn't happening

frozen adder
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lol I’m getting worse hahah

frozen adder
young wolf
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bro

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i can play solo

mellow minnow
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hard stuck in gold, what do i do?

mortal quail
# mellow minnow hard stuck in gold, what do i do?

Gold: Get down the basics of the game such as rotations, positioning, power clears, decent saving, shooting, (not passing), reads, and keeping control of the ball. Once you have a good grasp on all of these its a matter of time before you get to plat.

mellow minnow
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sure but like how? i thought i was doing those things

graceful shuttle
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any tips for 3s im always hard stuck in just 3s

low rain
graceful shuttle
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i feel like im stuck cause i try to carry and i lose and i play patient and i lose

grand holly
# visual yarrow <@1188608849905717269> any tips for getting out of plat ive been hardstuck for 2...

Sure. Getting from plat to diamond is just about leveling up the basics you already have. For mechanics, practicing your skills in the air and on the ground with shot packs, workshop maps and 1v1. For game sense, practicing 1s and watching pro replays. For pro replays, watching road to gc youtube series at your level is helpful. Overall, playing with the intention of learning and growing will help you propel in the future.

low rain
graceful shuttle
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im not ssl nor stuck in diamond lol im gc2-3 stuck in c3 3s

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i just need to know what playstyle to get out of champ 3s cause nothing works for me

humble hedge
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Anyone down to coach a gold 1? trying to learn aerials and good 50 skills

mortal quail
humble hedge
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My ground game is adequate but could use some work. Absolutely 0 air skills though

stray elk
mortal quail
stray elk
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yes, but if you solo q both i would say c3 to gc1 not gc2, cause thats a big diffrence. Thats my experience though

mortal quail
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most gc2s are like c3-gc1 in 3s
however any higher most dont queue ranked 3s as 6mans is better anyway

glass goblet
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nobody actually plays 6mans

grave remnant
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im p2 in 3s and only p1 in 2s

meager gull
civic pendant
mortal quail
high gulch
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Got to C2 in 2’s 3 seasons ago. Hardstuck C1 since. Been putting in training on many relevant workshop maps and packs. Been playing 1’s in D2. Almost to 2000 hours (200ish to go) and haven’t been back to C2 in 2 seasons. Focusing on defense. Even watching videos on that. Just on par with the skill ceiling haha. Is coaching the only answer at this point?

frozen adder
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I know everyone say train train train… screw that.. I’m just gonna learn in game…

golden ivy
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Wdym

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The settings don’t change from platform to platform

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U can just look up a settings guide

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Some of the video settings don’t show up on console but u don’t have to worry about that cuz u can’t change them

daring forum
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im hard stuck diamond, im about 1k hours in and feel like i just cant progress idk what to do

limpid gorge
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play for fun

lone copper
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anyone here maybe wanna coach me in 1v1 d3

ionic monolith
# high gulch Got to C2 in 2’s 3 seasons ago. Hardstuck C1 since. Been putting in training on ...

Defense is always important. I’d focus a little more on applying pressure without committing. On offense don’t give away possession. Also throw in some shots that will hit wall or backboard for your teammate. It will make your opponents awkward. If you do this just make sure you’re rotating fast so that you can either get back on defense if it doesn’t work or apply more offensive pressure if the defense can’t counter.

grand holly
ionic monolith
grand holly
ionic monolith
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What’s your play style

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Are you keeping control of the ball when on offense?

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I’m not sure if I’m qualified to help but I was being coached in a gc1 lobby and I’m c2 and and we were winning most of our games

ionic monolith
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Especially in the air

grand holly
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Everything is dependent upon you specifically, but from what I’ve seen, an under appreciated at issue at GC1 is boost management. Take a look at your replays and see how you are using boost, and adjust accordingly. I would also just generally look at those replays to self-analyze. Find your mistakes, practice what you’re doing wrong, go into games with the intention of working on those specific issues, and you’ll improve. Replay analysis all the time will be very helpful.

ionic monolith
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He said my mechanics were definitely good enough I just need to get better at decision making and adapt more to the higher ranked play style

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Being accurate on challenges and fast to the ball. Also being able to save shots from awkward positions

grand holly
ionic monolith
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I believe it’s good advice. If he already does it then it just means he already knows it’s important. But you are right that I’m not qualified to help him

grand holly
gray barn
grand holly
grand holly
cyan sage
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anyone else know they can get out of c2 easily if they get a decent mate

grand holly
ionic monolith
hushed storm
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Thoughts about ball chasing in c2?

gray barn
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Who said commit on net

ionic monolith
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In the games we were playing I was told to be patient and catch the ball after they’d aerial for it. 90% of the time the opponents gave it to me or my teammate. These were low gc1s and high c3s. It sounds like this won’t work higher up but it was working well against the lobbies we were playing in

dusky fiber
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yh sounds like boosting tbh

ionic monolith
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On the ground when they counter he said for the guy rotating back should screw up their attack without fully committing while last back shadows

gaunt path
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anyone down to coach me? i am rank silver i am tryna become a champ or a diamond

hushed storm
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Yep

ionic monolith
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So say I took a shot on net or missed a flick and they get possession on ground. I would attack the ball to try to get it to my teammate who is shadowing

dusky fiber
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its usually that the guy who was attacking challanges from behind/side and flick it to the side/corner, this way its easier for the guy behind and the person who cut the attack can easily get boost at the side he flicked the ball to

ionic monolith
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I guess I suck at explaining

dusky fiber
timber karma
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btw @gray barn u ugly af

dusky fiber
timber karma
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🧙‍♂️

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ofc im kidding but just dont give advice anymore

dusky fiber
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i think everything u do can be situational, but this is how it should be in general

hushed storm
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Reason?

timber karma
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i literally hate 1s im stuck in 1000-1050 im either on a winning streak or losing streak

got some advices?

dusky fiber
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just if your mate has other plans, otherwise not rlly

dusky fiber
hushed storm
timber karma
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actually the whole c1 rank

rotund gulch
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is anyone here a keyboard player

gray barn
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I’m actually gold 2🤓

rotund gulch
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i dont even wanna play ranked

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i might go back to silver

gray barn
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Exactly

dusky fiber
# timber karma c1 mid to high

most important thing for me at least is being unpredictable, obv besides the basics like kick offs, shadow defense etc.. if u can achieve that your opponent doesnt know whats coming next u will dominate the game, and this can be with nearly everything, with your kick off, with your challanges, with your shots etc. try not to do too many habits, for instance if u always touch the ball first he will know it the nextz time and u are easy to read. I feel like once u can achieve being unpredictable u will also win games against people u might be a bit better with the basics of 1s then u.

dusky fiber
rotund gulch
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hm

dusky fiber
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depends what rank, i wouldnt say a c1 in 1s is that much inconsistent, and as i mentioned, its a way to play against people that might be a bit better then u, if u play normally there u will loose for sure, with this strat the game is still winable

grand holly
desert yew
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Thanks for who helped me in 1s now I’m d3

frail hare
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anoyone who has any tips to get off c3 and go to gc, i rlly need sum

timber karma
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fr

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it depends on my opponent like if he has boost or not then ill do a play tha is harder for him to save

frail hare
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why wat rank r u 😭

gray barn
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He’s silver 3

dusky fiber
frail hare
timber karma
dusky fiber
wild stratus
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can someone help me get better at the game

twilit bobcat
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yo

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can someone give me a good training pack to practice shots ?

ionic monolith
next laurel
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can someone coach d1

twilit bobcat
ionic monolith
# twilit bobcat d2

I don’t have any off the top of my head but I can send you some later. You could try “shots you shouldn’t miss”. I don’t know the code for it though

twilit bobcat
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i tryed it

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it's not the best training pack

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for shots

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i think there's better

ionic monolith
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Are you looking for all ranges of shots or difficult shots

grand holly
signal lintel
signal lintel
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👍

signal lintel
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Yeah he's probably my favorite player

ruby niche
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Can I get a coach I'm silver 3

steep ice
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@signal lintel what rank are you

ruby niche
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@steep ice He's gc

steep ice
ruby niche
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@steep ice Can you coach me

steep ice
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idk what rank are you

ruby niche
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Silver

wild stratus
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can someone coach me im diamond 3

steep ice
wild stratus
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im hardstuck

ruby niche
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Ok works for me

wild stratus
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not for me bruh

steep ice
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in my prime i played scrims and actually made money

ruby niche
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@steep ice D1 works for me

wild stratus
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it has a special character in it

steep ice
wild stratus
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i cant remember the character

steep ice
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bro needs a name change

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either he really cant remember or he's not d3

ruby niche
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@steep ice I DM you

wild stratus
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uh lets see

steep ice
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fr tho

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maybe someone in plat or sum that thinks their good

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but d3 isn't even good

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yeah exactly

wild stratus
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actually i have this one account im logged into because my brother was playing on my pc

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the epic is XxDarkspinerxX

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but its around my rank in 2s

steep ice
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bro i thought gc players were insane until i played scrims against some

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game sense gc> mechanic gc

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true

wild stratus
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like i said this is not my account

steep ice
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2Die4 is like the best scrims player in my region

wild stratus
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i think ive played like 1k matches

steep ice
wild stratus
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but i play a lot of training

steep ice
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most ive gotten was 700 in a season

wild stratus
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no 1k total

steep ice
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oh

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yeah but that was long ago i dont really play the game anymore

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dang

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when was the last time you went outside no offense

wild stratus
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can someone coach me

steep ice
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can anyone watch one of my replays i need to know what im doing wrong

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oh thats good then

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i go to gym 1 hour and sports 5 hours a day the rest i play games

ionic monolith
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Wasn’t it like 800 2 days ago or something?

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Ah okay. I have less than 50 probably

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How do I look?

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Where in rl tracker will it say?

steep ice
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oh i had 700 in 2s only all with the same person

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1s i only have like placements

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like record and post on yt?

ionic monolith
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In 2s I have 39 and in 3s I have 41 lmao

steep ice
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silver best rank

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how is it even possible to be silver tho

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cant win in a top 100 lobby

ionic monolith
#

Both S’s in SSL stand for silver

desert yew
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Silver slicky licker

steep ice
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cap

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i need proof ma boyy

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im zen

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proof is in the pudding

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why

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true

signal lintel
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😋

delicate sleet
#

can someone teach me how to speed flip by chance im getting to the point i think its just my pc holding me back or that cuz everywhere i see it says it could also be your input delay but im not sure

tough gorge
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i can musty flick and speed flip

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im plat 1

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im not even lying

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thekid taught me how to these mechanic

delicate sleet
tough gorge
#

dm

delicate sleet
tough gorge
#

okk

gilded fog
#

how do i fix my aerial car control being terribe after a break

lapis compass
delicate sleet
#

anyone able to explain to me how to speed flip (not just showing me how it looks)

gilded fog
#

ty

lapis compass
#

which gamemode

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gc1 div 3

zenith delta
lapis compass
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pretty much

lapis compass
zenith delta
#

What’s your 1s rank tho

fleet knoll
#

Can somebody teach me the basics of airroll

gilded fog
fleet knoll
#

Can somebody teach me the basics of airroll

lapis compass
fleet knoll
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Directional

lapis compass
#

i can't see everything

delicate sleet
fleet knoll
#

Can somebody teach me the basics of airroll

lapis compass
grand holly
lapis compass
# fleet knoll Can somebody teach me the basics of airroll

so directionall airroll is mainly used to make a very quick adjustments in car facing positioning it works the best if composed with a very fast paced gameplay. left directionall airroll as the names say will turn your car to the left seemingly like standard airroll does but just a tad better, and smoother, to truly learn the directional airroll controll you need to practice a lot of simple car aerial controll just using the directionall. its best if you do it in steps and not all at once. i suggest you do this : Jump in freeplay and fly from net to net trying to throw urself off and then regaining the controll back without hitting any obstacle only using directionall airroll

wild stratus
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can someone help me get better

timber beacon
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what rank is u also go dms

lapis compass
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pc or console?

lapis compass
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Aight . i could show you a very easy method to learn it

grand holly
lapis compass
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that guy knows better

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can you voice chat?

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i can write a huge ass essay xP

gray barn
gray barn
#

Where’d your username originate from

grand holly
tepid talon
#

need coach c1

lapis compass
tepid talon
gray barn
lapis compass
gray barn
lapis compass
cyan sage
#

is top top 50 classed as semi pro

grand holly
split flicker
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flip resets

grand holly
#

You need to adjust your speed to different ranks you play at. You are likely playing too quickly for the lower level.

cyan sage
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speedflip

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then you get kickoff goal no?

grand holly
#

Slow down.

cyan sage
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yeah fake kickoff or delay

compact night
#

If they are too slow then hit the side of the ball on your speed kickoff

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watch musty’s tutorial he tells you how @night wraith

tepid talon
oak glacier
#

Ok so I’m a gc 2 peak and I’m playing against 2 Gc 2 peaks but I have a c2 as my tm8. How should I play if I want any chance at beating them

stark fiber
#

Can someone teach me how to air dribble

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I can get the setup I just can’t jump off and hit the ball

grand holly
oak glacier
grand holly
oak glacier
#

Yea I’m thinking it’s a swift L but I want to know if there’s a certain way I should play

oak glacier
cyan sage
#

play off him rather than how you normally would he wont be able to keep up with yous so whatever he does you need to try and make do with it and get back earlier than you should more often than not they will get past him

grand holly
oak glacier
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I can let you know tomorrow how it went if you want

devout inlet
#

anyone help me learn air dribblinf

grand holly
unkempt ermine
tepid talon
#

can anyone coach me im c1

tall cape
tepid talon
tepid talon
wise scarab
#

can anyone help with what i do after i get the reset. i mean like when ever i get it i kinda just fall and im just lost with it

coral stream
#

oh my god

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i can cieling shot

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i can double tap

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i can sometimes musty

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WHY THE HELL CANT I DO A CIELING SHOT DOUBLE TAP MUSTY

wanton drift
coral stream
#

i need to get under the ball for a musty faster

wanton drift
#

Yep.

coral stream
#

when i do go into the musty and hit it right it usually goes into the goal

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instead of the backboard

wanton drift
#

then focus on the angle more.

timid acorn
#

yo

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should i change my powerslide form x to lb or rb

compact night
#

Try it out see if you like it, if not change it back

timid acorn
#

also should i make mine rb siince i speed flip with my right airoll

compact night
#

only real way is time

I wouldn’t immediatly hop in ranked or anything

Try free play/cas for a bit at least like 5-10 match

If you still hate it, it’s prob not for you

compact night
timid acorn
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right air roll

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@compact night

compact night
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Then i would put drift as l1

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I use left airroll and have drift as r1

serene lava
sleek linden
#

hey, i just joined for second opinions, im diamond 2s after coming back to rl. im using a ps4 controller and my boost as always been square and jump is X. i am perfecting my speed flips for kickoffs but i cant do them consistently because my thumb has to simultaneously double tap X while boosting. this is the only mechanic that my thumb is simply not fast and consistent enough for. should i move my boost button to something like R1 and relearn my muscle memory? idk how long and aids thats going to be so im asking here lmao

serene lava
#

when i changed my settings it wasnt that hard but i was gold at that moment

silk parrot
#

How do I stop missing open nets

serene lava
silk parrot
#

I can’t do that

sleek linden
#

@silk parrot do you play teemo

vocal shore
#

How can I get better at wall to air dribble or wall to hitting the ball while it's in the air

silk parrot
sleek linden
sleek linden
ruby ice
#

thats why I do and its most comfortable and viable

sleek linden
vocal shore
#

I can ground dribble pretty decent in my opinion, now wanna work for air

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And mabye work on flicks

sleek linden
vocal shore
#

I think speedflips were the first thing I learned

sleek linden
vocal shore
#

Oof

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I love doing kuxir pinches tho

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Idk how to spell his name

sleek linden
# ruby ice thats why I do and its most comfortable and viable

actually i should say, its not uncomfortable, its like my thumb isnt always fast for that specific motion? like if i try to do that motion of holding square and spamming X with my thumb at the same time sometimes my thumb just stops moving and locks up for a 10th of a second

ruby ice
#

I dont think u should change up all ur binds its worth trying to practice a bit first

vocal shore
#

What's ur camera settings?

sleek linden
# vocal shore Idk how to spell his name

yea i probably watched every video that existed about air dribbles, it really is just about practicing it, rather than learning how to do it. same goes for really any mechanic imo

vocal shore
#

I think I have probably a random camera setup

sleek linden
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mine is pretty much the same as any of the ones you find here

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i linked that because pro player camera settings are all very similar to eachother

vocal shore
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I only watch one pro, we'll I stopped about 6 months ago bc I don't know why tbh

ocean sandal
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any1 tryna coach ya boy?

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hit me up if ur down

sleek linden
vocal shore
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I have my distance at 400 💀

sleek linden
vocal shore
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Is there any pro player that doesn't have the pov maxed?

cyan sage
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monkey moon

vocal shore
vocal shore
cyan sage
rose birch
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What are the most important mechanics to learn in silver/gold

cyan sage
vocal shore
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Is swivel speed and transition speed even important, like can it effect my playing?

cyan sage
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technically it does but honestly no

compact night
vocal shore
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How?

compact night
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it helps lock on to stuff quicker

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Like for transition speed if u have it really low, it will take a few seconds to lock on to the ball,

With a high transition, it will lock their immediately letting you focus and see the feild a little quicker

vocal shore
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Besides that really

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@sleek linden wanna take a look at my new camera settings?

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I think he got off

cyan sage
compact night
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true its really not crazy but it does help

peak kraken
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guys i am platinum how can i get to diamond even gold in 1v1s crush me

visual jay
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any tips for changing the boost button?

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i tried boosting from r1 but its really hard

vocal shore
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@peak kraken

peak kraken
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ok

vocal shore
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What's ur epic

peak kraken
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add me O Ondra._

serene lava
vocal shore
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Only shows you online, can't invite you to party

tight violet
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I'm in d2 div 3 with absolutely no mechanics besides basic dribbles and power shots. What would be the best way to grind mechanics? Would playing a lot of 1v1 help?

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(I'm really dependent on my teammates and on communication, mostly working off of good plays and rotation. If there's good comms I can ball out and even reach d3, maybe even c1, but I struggle in solo queue most of the time)

cyan sage
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How do i get out of champ 2? What is the most important mechanics to know. I already got a good teammate

vocal shore
tight violet
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What time is it for you?

vocal shore
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5:21 a.m

tight violet
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Oh

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well yeah I can play from around 9:30 AM your time till somewhere in midday for you

vocal shore
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I work a little bit after 12 tho

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Might be off

tight violet
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hmm

hushed storm
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C2 2s

cyan sage
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yall coach me plsplsplsplsplsplspls

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how do i like predict the ball in the air

forest girder
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practice predicting it on training packs

cyan sage
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can you recommend any training packs

forest girder
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just type aerial training packs on google or yt

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and youll find some

ornate sable
cyan sage
ornate sable
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Ur c tho?

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Or lik high d3

vocal shore
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Lemme see em too

cyan sage
vocal shore
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Or code

ornate sable
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But im a way rn i Will message u later then

cyan sage
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alr

vocal shore
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Bruh

ornate sable
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On phone lmaoo

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Ill add u both

honest ledge
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Are any of you silver 3

vocal shore
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No

faint axle
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any gameplay tips for gold 3

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i know powershots i am decent at dribbling and i hit 90 precent of the aerials

ember schooner
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how do you air dribble

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beacuse i dont understan how

faint axle
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I was a plat 3 before quitting rocket league

modest elbow
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can someone help me with speed flips/flicks

faint axle
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rn i am plat 1 div 4 in 2s but i was referring at 3v3 cuz i play most of the time rn cuz of my 2 friends

modest elbow
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i think ik how to do them jsut i can never hit them at kickoffs in real matches that's what i need help with

faint axle
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so i am partially washed up

tight violet
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a plat 3 giving actually good advice

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zamn

tough gorge
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i can musty flick and speed flip

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im plat 1

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k

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alr dms

modest elbow
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i can 100% "triple flip reset" im gold 2

tough gorge
modest elbow
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uhh...

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is there a way to set the boost to default in freeplay

tough gorge
ember schooner
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how do you air dribble

modest elbow
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okay

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of what

grand holly
karmic moss
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im hardstuck plat any tips on how to get out?

mortal quail
# karmic moss im hardstuck plat any tips on how to get out?

Plat: get better at defending and mastering stuff you learned in gold. Honestly stop trying to aerial for every ball, use your judgement to decide if you should aerial or not. Learn backpost rotations and hitting the ball off backboard. Should be said that dont go for air dribbles or ceiling shots idc if you are consistent with them. Playing smart and reading the play will allow you to rank up

timber karma
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any gc or ssl in 1s here? trynna do some privates and learn

fresh isle
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Anyone have tips to get from c2 to c3 and eventually gc1

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I am stuck along time