#Accommodation hunting

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lofty bough
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Provisional plan for September 2024 in DENMARK šŸ”

cyan depot
lofty bough
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damnit CMaster

cold kayak
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Now that'd be an experience. How many beds would we be looking to go for? I'd assume it's usually less than the UK meetups.

lofty bough
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30-35

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trending more towards the 30

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if it fills, it fills

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I really liked the farmhouse from '23, but it was expensive, and that's because we undershot on numbers

cold kayak
lofty bough
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I think it ended up at like £220

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we really want £150-180

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though we do need to acknowledge costs have risen

cold kayak
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So this is the website I'm currently using. Though you currently can only set the number of adult guests to 20, but there are examples of accommodation that are above that number. https://www.hometogo.co.uk/search/5460ae187c034?adults=20 I presumed that we'd ideally favour to look around Billund.

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cyan depot
cold kayak
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If we'd be going for September, assuming we'd be arriving on Friday and leaving on the Monday..

  • Aug 30th to Sep 2nd
  • Sep 27th to Sep 30th
    That's it in terms of free booking opportunities
lofty bough
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yeah we normally do Friday to Monday

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we really don't have to go to Billund though

cold kayak
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There's not that many 30+ guest homes available around Billund. There's a few within an hours drive of Billund though.

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Yeah I was prioritising Billund due to the fact Legoland is there. I'll check out other potential spots.

lofty bough
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oh I know where Legoland is :p

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though Lego House is probably actually more interesting for people

cold kayak
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Well I never.. šŸ˜„

lofty bough
cyan depot
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yeah, if people really want to make the effort to go to legoland, then they can from wherever we wind up really

hybrid gulch
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is the Denmark bit also provisional or is that bit solid :3

lofty bough
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Provisional. I’m aware of your Estonia preference :p

hybrid gulch
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I can try to make it to my family's place at some point and take some pictures etc, not sure how many actual beds there are, but there's also just mattresses and floor space on top of the garage etc where there's not much space for anything other than sleeping. would need more tables for boardgames, but that is easily organized. main issue is the lack of heating options for some sleeping spaces, so would have to aim for summer/early autumn. but that'd also have the option of tents, cause the yard is huge

cold kayak
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I've got a document in the works, I'll post in a few minutes

lofty bough
hybrid gulch
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about an hour from the capital, train currently stops one town over so would need to ferry people with cars, but that's 10 minutes. buses stop a bit closer, but still a bit of a trek

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think they're planning to re-expand the train line there, but no idea where that's at

cold kayak
hybrid gulch
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getting from the airport to the bus/train stations is one tram ride

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it would also mean that Tallinn is close enough for any excursions, there's a decent zoo

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oh there's a motorsport museum near the train station too

lofty bough
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basically I can throw the details in to the voting when we look to lock down

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car ferrying can sometimes be dubious - I doubt we'll have many drivers in Estonia either

cold kayak
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Oh, that's handy. When you open the map on the website I was using, it shows the nearest airports.

lofty bough
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so public transport links become more important

hybrid gulch
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car rentals are from 25€ a day

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and since place rental is free, should have some leeway on resources

cold kayak
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Bearing in mind with that document, that's the lower end accommodations. There were more, but they were fully booked up.

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Ranging from £101 to £368 per night. Though the £368 property was just because it was very near Billund.

pure sorrel
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Someone wants to go to Legoland, or is it just a coincidence onionthink

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But we want to be near Billund then?

cold kayak
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Well that was my initial priority with locating large accommodations near Billund. But it's proving quite difficult, or the ones that I have found are ridiculously out of our budget. šŸ˜”

cyan depot
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quick glance on vrbo, literally everything found is on Jutland, often in the far north-west

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note - it may be possible to get any/all of these cheaper by finding more direct booking

cyan depot
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so it looks like (unless more stuff gets announced) the only flights from the UK go to CPH (most of them) or Billund (on lmited dates during school holidays).

So for brits its either going to be road trip, fly to CPH then travel, or fly to Hamburg then travel

hybrid gulch
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So, railroad rebuilding (up to the place we need) should finish by end of 2024. Maybe aim for 2026 then. If they put the station where it was before they removed the railroad, it'll be a 10-15 minute walk

pure sorrel
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up a hill?

hybrid gulch
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naw, but like a countryside dirt road. for the direct route, at least. there's a paved way that goes through the village centre (two apartment buildings) too

ionic verge
dapper dust
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Looks good. Would 20 places be enough ?

lofty bough
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its on the lower side but would guarantee fill

ionic verge
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we basically need to be "camps" in the different apartments

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but it is close to Lego Land and i think busses are good too

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aaaaaaaaaaaand, we get breakfast there šŸ˜‰

pure sorrel
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Sounds good to me

analog sandal
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<@&1171483833707798558> alright we're going to have to make some decisions here soon-ish, so I'd appreciate some more pitching in.

I should note that I can't attend any weekend that takes place on the 14th of september.

I'm not too sure about having only 20 places and I'm not toos ure about being very close to legoland. It's a boardgame event after all šŸ¤”

worthy finch
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Is it definitely denmark then? Cause I happened to be on a site for this sort of stuff recently for something else and there's quite a lot of stuff in flanders/netherlands

pure sorrel
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Somewhere near Copenhagen Station might be an option then

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I'm planning to train it, 12 hours lol

lofty bough
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I'd suggest we don't critically need to be next to Billund

ionic verge
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I would think it is pretty easy to get to Legoland with public transport if ppl want to go.

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If we stay in or close to the larger cities

lofty bough
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<@&1171483833707798558> ok gang, I’m going to give grizzly a hand at this point

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Get your fucking asses in gear o this isn’t happening. Throw up places in Demark that can take 30+, and a decision needs to be make quickly

analog sandal
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Right:
My short list at the moment.
https://www.hometogo.co.uk/rental/2bbc3597098a5f3155b83bd38dca8d3f
August 30 to September 2
October: 25 - 28
https://www.hometogo.co.uk/rental/afead9b963826aa22f9b8a25695bb558
September: 27 to 30
October: 11-14, 18-21, 25-28.
https://www.hometogo.co.uk/rental/a2da2d72aa70b33a8368935c979e2441
October: 11-14, 18-21, 25-28.

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lofty bough
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Will look@tomorrow, am off work

dapper dust
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Number 1 looks good

keen harbor
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Yeah, number 1. Less arguments over bedrooms as seems to be pairs mostly. Number 3 will be a squeeze

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Number 2 reminds me of school for some reason

ionic verge
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i like number 1.

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31 sleeps, will we fill it?

keen harbor
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Number 1 has a 7 day minimum stay at 214 per person

ionic verge
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and i vote 30th aug - 2nd Sept

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ohno...

keen harbor
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Indeed

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Given the number of couples we have now, numbers 2 and 3 won't be suitable

ionic verge
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well maybe something can be arranged with the owner?

keen harbor
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Perhaps, don't ask don't get. And I see booked dates of less than 7 days

analog sandal
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I can't see anything about a 7 day minimum on that page.

atomic zephyr
lofty bough
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Property wise yes

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Date wise ummm I’m on nights on the weekend which is notoriously hard to swap out of. Is October too late for people?

radiant whale
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Number one does look good. It even has a place for bonfires!

keen harbor
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huh, i tried to set dates for prices earlier and it spat an error of "minimum 7 days". wish i screen shotted, but doesnt appear now. fun

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also, here's the price in English Rubles

lofty bough
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That is insanely cheap btw

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Our typical cost has been more like £4-7k

keen harbor
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indeed

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here's EuroDollars

lofty bough
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Though that is 20 guests

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I suspect when you get the full quote for 31 it’ll be higher

keen harbor
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nope

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and I dont know why it changed from 31 cos it makes you click 31 times

lofty bough
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Heh

keen harbor
lofty bough
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Well I can’t do that weekend anyway

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October or bust for me

keen harbor
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how about november :D:D

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(i choose that weekend because birthday :D)

lofty bough
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Tbh I’m down for anything, it’s just my shifts are locked in until start of sept

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There has also been previous discussions about booking an extra night

keen harbor
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I'd say call in sick but your colleagues are uniquely qualified to call your bluff

lofty bough
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Calling in sick on nights is also probably the biggest dick move possible

keen harbor
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fair

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for some reason, including the tuesday is cheaper per night

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so you want an extra night

lofty bough
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Like I’d be up for an extra

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And I know @atomic zephyr does

keen harbor
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you got an extra night

lofty bough
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I mean that’s wild but that works

keen harbor
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what I will say is, it doesnt look as comfortable as previous stays

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this has more of a hostel vibe

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maybe im beiong fussy

lofty bough
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Yeah it isn’t the luxury we have had for the last few, but it is exponentially cheaper

lofty bough
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I would note that it looks like we have to put up a deposit for energy costs

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which is not tiny

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bed linen also costs

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in fact. bed sheets and towels cost £400

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so this is a more accurate total

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(this assumes we don't pay for the "cleaning kit(s)" and would therefore need to get dishwasher tabs, sponges, tea towels etc from supermarket)

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it's still only £100/pp for 4 nights though including all that

blissful trout
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morning, haven't said much as it will be my first meet and didnt really know how to approach them, with regards to cleaning kits, i got a excess of unused kitchen towels, sponges, dishwasher tabs, could purchase some brushes etc, figure to help carry the cost over those who have to travel a long way

atomic zephyr
keen harbor
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In earnest, im not too enthralled with the 1st one. Given the "RyanAir" style "extras" of sheets and towels bringing the price up significantly, and the fact that it just does not look comfortable (I'm getting old and like my creature comforts). I don't like bringing problems instead of solutions but my Danish knowledge is poor (unless it's about the pastry), so I have no alternatives to suggest.

cyan depot
cyan depot
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the massive place near Aaarus has quite a bit of availability (last weekend in sept, first and last in oct). It's £4k though, which means we'd need to get numbers that I don't think we'll manage, otherwise I'd be all for it https://www.vrbo.com/en-gb/p2273663

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(again extra bedding charge on that one)

analog sandal
cyan depot
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nope, but there's a september date still. And actually, sat-tues isn't the worst for the brits looking at the flights stiuyation

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(which has improved since reviewing before - there's standsted - aarus flights on Tue/wed/thu/sat/sun) and MAN/LHR/STN/EDI -> BLL on various week days

analog sandal
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problem with those september dates is that I can't do the 14th september and Cei can't do September at all, so I kinda want to avoid that

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(I don't want to foot the bill of an event I'm not present at šŸ˜› )

cyan depot
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although note that october is bad for some of our education people.

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but yes, organiser definitley gets priority here

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out of the places you shortlisted grizz, I kinda have concerns about getting to all of them. (this is a bit of a problem with big places in denmark in general I think). Not too keen on no.3 from the pictures, looks a bit grim all in. Both others seem fine.

analog sandal
scarlet vapor
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(i find it insane that somebody would put a real pool table in a rental) (even if i know we've had one before)

lofty bough
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just not that weekend at end of Aug/start of Sept crossover

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my rota is locked in until the first Weds of September

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Ā£4k as a total is in line with what we have normally spent on these rentals

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so, my take

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I think the ones CM has found are better, and not too expensive

lofty bough
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so, suggest doing a workup for a vote between the two

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ie: location, transport, dates available, pricing

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we pick, then commit

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my biggest thing on accommodation is that at some point a decision just has to be made. Sometimes it isn't the most correct.

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like last year's was lovely as a place, but it was expensive and we didn't get the expected numbers

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(it's still a hell of a lot cheaper than a hotel)

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the Aarhus one is very close, relatively, to the airport but dunno what flies there

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16 mins drive

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no listed public transport route

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....3h walk šŸ˜†

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Villa Grandissimo is a 4h drive from Copenhagen

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a fairly sizable 5h on public transport

analog sandal
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It is, however, right next to an Aldi šŸ¤”

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(and also to a train station)

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actually no that appears to be a bus stop nvm

lofty bough
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yes, though Aarhus airport has a train station

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I think

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no it doesn't

analog sandal
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Think on the whole Sjórupgaard just has better availability, full stop.

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err

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reachability

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Villa Grandissomo's vrtbo page mentions:

Struer Humlum Station - 30 min drive 

Sjórupgaard is:

Kolind Station - 10 min drive
Aarhus (AAR) - 19 min drive

lofty bough
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yes, though I think we'll need to do car shuttling or hm

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@blissful trout @tardy vortex whats taxi travel/Uber like in Denmark?

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Aarhus flies to London, which is a help

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building up a comparison

humble sundial
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so Denmark is looking like to have the France issue, nice place, no real public transport to any affordable fun location.

lofty bough
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ehhh not as bad

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France is literally "closest station: 60 minutes"

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not sure why the Villa Grandissimo is saying the station is 30 mins away, there's one just up the road

tardy vortex
lofty bough
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how expensive is "hella"?

tardy vortex
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depends where you are, in my city you pay 5€ to start and 1.5€ per km

lofty bough
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so the aarhus airport to the place is 13.1km

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so it'll be what, 20-30 EUR?

tardy vortex
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probably yeah, per 4-person taxi and assuming it's not on the weekend

lofty bough
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not outrageous if sharing

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can you look at the two locations as a local and give a view on the transport?

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the train stuff to Harbore in particular I guess

tardy vortex
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the public transport to that place isn't amazing, and I don't really have much experience with it... but should be doable if you fly into Billund

lofty bough
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šŸ‘

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finally, does this Villa Grandissimo charge for linen or electricity? The vrbo site doesn't talk about it

tardy vortex
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the price covers electricity etc., but linen is by default something you have to bring (they do include duvets and pillows for free, just not covers or sheets)

lofty bough
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do they mention a price?

tardy vortex
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no, just "you can buy linen at Jysk" lol

lofty bough
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lmao, ok, they don't rent it then

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weird

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THESE ARE YOUR CHOICES

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šŸ‡ø = SjĆørupgaard
šŸ‡¬ = Villa Grandissimo

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(I have applied one vote for each so just click)

cyan depot
lofty bough
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personally I'm leaning towards Aarhus, though the concept of a pool is wild, but it will cost us another chunk of cash in addition to the quoted for the energy fees and linen

cyan depot
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I'm willing to search up some more places tomorrow, this is what i found last year being checked again. I'm concerned from interest levels so far we may be looking at ~20 attendees this year and then sjorupgaard gets very expensive

lofty bough
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at 20 it'll be £200pp plus linen plus elec

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my concern is if we spend ages fucking about looking for places they will simply fill up

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the Villa Grandissimo is fine, and makes way more sense financially, it's just the transport downside of being more out the way

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but if the trains in there are reasonably regular it can work

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like, we've put people on buses to fuck nowhere in the Peak District before

lofty bough
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my only other suggestion, I guess, would be to find a single 20 person option

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with the choice then being do we simply hard cap to 20, boohoo, or risk one of the other places

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Villa Grand is less of a financial risk, but more of a travel burden

blissful trout
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i have a 4seat car coming from zealand that could bring people, limiter will be baggage

lofty bough
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it's why I'm leaning towards the other place, though as an actual house that one looks nice

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also fuck DFDS for closing the Harwich to Ejsberg ferry route, seriously

blissful trout
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with regards to rooms, im considering putting up a tent, as i know from previous experience that being in a room with someone who snores means i get no sleep :p

lofty bough
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some places expressly don't allow that

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buut I would say that we ask for preferences, and it can sometimes be wriggled to avoid that

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ie: you may get a room for yourself, or we can put you with a non-snorer

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also this is a 10h drive from Holland, jesus fuck

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no bloody supercharger in Aarhus either, aaaaghhh, until 2025

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may have to switch it to a campervan trip at this point, at least that will allow easy stopping for breaks

keen harbor
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lets go to spain instead šŸ˜„

lofty bough
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Arguably worse

keen harbor
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back to the peaks it is!

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ill go away now, im not helping šŸ˜„

lofty bough
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not just fuck off

tardy vortex
lofty bough
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sure, but it makes getting a car to Denmark 500% harder

tardy vortex
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ah yeah that's unfortunate

lofty bough
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  1. sit on a nice ferry to Esbjerg, do a bit of a drive for an hour or two, done
  2. sit on a short ferry to Holland, drive TEN HOURS minimum
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inclduing the autobahn with bloody germans

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honestly I don't get the unrestricted speed thing

keen harbor
lofty bough
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🤣

keen harbor
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I did go away to cook paprikash though. What am I voting on,.I'll scroll up

lofty bough
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Do that. Last mention.

keen harbor
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I like the second, but, the lack of availability of linen irks me

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So we buy and throw away?

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Or one of our Danes takes them home and only needs to wash bedsheets once a year

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Or plans a Halloween ghost flash mob

ionic verge
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ive voted

keen harbor
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Me too

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I decided I was gonna vote for the opposite of what moxxi.does

ionic verge
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i can do both, but i like the Aarhus one more šŸ™‚

ionic verge
keen harbor
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There's more than 2 of us

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Ksempac is legally obligated to vote for the opposite of what I do, so you win moxxi

ionic verge
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ARE YOU SURE!?

keen harbor
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Oh god she's multiplying

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Ones enough OH GOD ONES ENOUGH

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Wait

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That's just a different profile pic

ionic verge
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yeah

scarlet vapor
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i like none of those options. #2 is better, but if even the local deems transport unreliable, then I don't think we should pick it

ionic verge
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a bad one

scarlet vapor
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at this point my favorite option, considering the limited sign up, would be "pick a new target of 20 people, and see if there are better options"

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(note that i haven't signed up, so my opinion may be completely irrelevant)

keen harbor
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I've no issue staying in a local hotel if a smaller venue is picked, so long as it's not too far

lofty bough
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I wouldn’t go by the sign ups, that only opened yesterday. Dewi and Jo aren’t on there, nor are a lot of regulars

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It’d help if you explained why you don’t like any of the options as well

scarlet vapor
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well all the points have been said above

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first one is too expensive for most people (also having only double bed sucks)

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second is impractical travel wise (+ we need people willing to stack up in the bunk bed room)

lofty bough
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We always have people willing to do that tbh

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We have had multiple years where some of the accommodation has been bunk rooms or multiple beds in one

scarlet vapor
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yeah that's why, as i said, #2 is the better option, but the travel makes it nope

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we've had some not great travel options before, but 1- this looks worse than usual 2- we don't have many locals and/or people coming in cars to compensate (compared to say, UK were there are always a ton of cars)

lofty bough
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Yeah I do agree the second is ropey for transport

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I’m willing to see if there’s a 20-25 place anybody can find, with better location, but we can’t mess around for weeks doing this

scarlet vapor
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(though, today I learned Denmark is much bigger than I thought šŸ˜„ i was mostly seeing it as "Copenhagen and its suburbs" šŸ˜› )

lofty bough
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Yeah it’s not teeny tiny

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The geography also makes it tricky in certain spots

dapper dust
last furnace
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Dr B did some searching last week and found a couple. But looks like they have the same problems as other options: too far from a train station…

analog sandal
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Yo I appreciate the late suggestions but two weeks ago I put out a call for more pitching in and nobody replied until I started making a shortlist a few days ago.

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That does make it somewhat harder for us to come to a final decision.

lofty bough
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@strange wave @humble sundial @pliant ridge @tranquil swan @lunar ingot @crisp sail @pure sorrel @tame portal @cold jacinth @cold kayak @radiant whale @pure gale @rose basalt @placid ermine @hybrid light @twin whale @sweet plaza

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this ping is for the '23 people I'm not aware of being in this channel or very quiet

tranquil swan
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I won’t be along this year, off on an Iceland trip with uni in September and that’s going to be eating all my spare cash. Hope you have fun though!

lofty bough
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if meets are going to continue at all in the future, people need to be a lot more responsive to sign ups and requests

analog sandal
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<@&894926281823621250> and <@&1032739312804049009> are still roles

lofty bough
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that also works

analog sandal
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I kept them around to make this a bit easier

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(hopefully)

trail grove
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Hello.

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I'm still being very cautious about travel but I'm very much hoping to finally meet y'all for meet 25 šŸ˜„.

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Have fun this year!

indigo sonnet
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I don't know if I can come, I'm not sure where and when I will work that month

lofty bough
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that's fine, we haven't locked in dates, so nobody is currently expected to be 100% committed

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but this is about getting an idea of numbers, knowing some will drop

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but as organiser, frankly, I'm borderline done doing this if people cannot be fucked to engage with the process at a bare minimum and put their names on a spreadsheet if they think they may want to come. This is a massive organisational load, and it feels like people don't want to understand that, let alone help the process along by making it slightly easier on those bearing the burden

analog sandal
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I'm leaning towards Sjorupgaard as whilst it might even be slightly oversized for our purposes it's got better availability and all the bedrooms have 2 beds.

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(eg that means people can have a room to themselves, which is cool)

lofty bough
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I slept on it and am definitely more firmly on the side of Aarhus as well

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I acknowledge cost if we only get 20 people. If we only get 20 people it's a bit of a sad indictment.

cyan depot
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yeah, I'm pretty much dead against Harbore, transport to there just loooks like a full day

lofty bough
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I also still hold my opinon that a) £200 for a full weekend away is actually still insanely cheap b) inflation is a thing we have to accept

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I can spend £200 for a single night in a Travelodge in London

analog sandal
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Yeah 200 pounds seems not all that much

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and that's the bad scenario when only 20 people show up

hybrid gulch
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yeah my financials are still in a terrible place and probably starting vocational school in Autumn so everything is logistically difficult. I'll keep running on the hugs I got in '22 and I hope you all have a lovely time šŸ™‚

analog sandal
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@lofty bough Okay new plan the meet is at Clavros's house.

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bring tents everyone.

lofty bough
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I mean that's still on the cards for the future

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I think we were waiting on a train line to be built or something

hybrid gulch
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it was planned to be ready end of this year, so hopefully good by the next mainland meet

analog sandal
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New new plan

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we deploy the royal navy in the baltic for the express purposes of ferrying Clavros to the UK

hybrid gulch
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I'm graduating in June if you wanna come to that šŸ™‚

radiant whale
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Alright put my name on the sheet. I can either do sept or October but would prefer September.

cyan depot
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so a bit more hunting mostly finds more of the same - similar properties dotted around the outskirts of Jutland

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however, I have forund a couple of maybes in north Sealand. They're further from Copenhagen than than sjorupgaard is from Aarus - but on the other hand, CPH is much easier to fly to than AAR. Not sharing immediatley to avoid clutter, but holding if people want to look.

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oh, I think I found the direct site for SjĆørupgaard too - https://kursussjoerupgaard.com/.
One thing to note is a full week seems to be the same price as the 4 days - and might be worth considering, especially given the lack of Friday and monday flights between Aarus and the UK

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if up to date, prices here are quite a bit cheaper than on vrbo too

lofty bough
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good find

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lack of flights?

cyan depot
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only UK flights to Aarhus currently advertised are from Stansted - every day of the week except Mon and Fri

lofty bough
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that's...daft

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CPH to Aarhus does exist, both in train and plane form I believe

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the pricing is kinda bonkers. 5,000 DKK more for a full week

lofty bough
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ok, so people know, flights to AAH on Fridays and Mondays do exist, but you need to do a change

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(I've found lots of options, LHR, BHX etc)

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and even with the change at CPH (or sometimes Oslo...) the overall flight time is fine

dapper dust
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You can fly from Edinburgh to Billund .

keen harbor
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I'm only going if this is the bathroom setup

lofty bough
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wtf

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if you need somebody to piss on you whilst you poop, ask Jo

upbeat shuttle
keen harbor
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That's a shower Ceri. If you have that spray pattern you may want to visit a colleague

lofty bough
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Pee like a racehorse mate

keen harbor
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With a helmet like a colander apparently

nocturne blaze
lofty bough
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yeah we've basically nixed the "difficult to get to" place

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was gonna be too stressful for people, reliant on some potentially dodgy connections and fundamentally jsut taking a loooong time

lofty bough
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<@&1171483833707798558> it's looking likely we're gonna be headed for Aarhus
https://www.vrbo.com/en-gb/p2273663
https://kursussjoerupgaard.com/

Exact date to be confirmed shortly, once we've cleared availability with the hosts

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I need fast replies if you have spotted an absolute deal-breaker

radiant whale
keen harbor
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looking at the pictures of the bedrooms, and then the description of the beds in each, seems sus

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Jo and I are on the maybe list for now. Sorry for being a little flaky this time round, we'll discuss over the next week how we feel about it.

last furnace
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But the website states "5 apartments each with three bedrooms" (kitchen, bathroom and living room in each)

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And then one big apartment with five bedrooms (and bathroom, kitchen and lounge).

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So that's 20 bedrooms. Looks like each has a fairly standard bed + possible camp beds as may be needed.

cyan depot
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yeah, it says thgat they can accomodate 13 extras - I guess thats the camp beds

lofty bough
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we're not going to be hitting 40

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so we're not going to be using those additional camp beds or whatever

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so I entirely disagree that it's "sus" - there's a whole load of very normal beds, and we won't be packing people in those rooms

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Apartments 1-5 are three double beds each, which is 30

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Apartment 6 is five double beds, another 10

cyan depot
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from the photos looks like they're not actually all double beds and there are some twins

lofty bough
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well yeah, it's the "single bases and push together to make doubles" that is super common

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so if we go over 35 people we will be breaking out the camp beds, but I doubt we will hit that number

cyan depot
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and you're counting "beds" in 1-5 and "sleeps" in 6 their Cei

lofty bough
cyan depot
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there's this awful layout plan:

lofty bough
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lol yeah, the plan was deeply weird

cyan depot
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one building broken up in to 5 appartments, with an area we're not allowed it an the "north" end, and a covered patio at the south

lofty bough
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but I'm satisfied that it is 20 rooms, with 2 in each as a base, in proper beds

cyan depot
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then a seperate building with a shared kitchen and shared giant living room upstairs

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and another building with the games room

lofty bough
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@keen harbor basically don't worry. You'll have your own room, no sharing, no camp beds

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the pictures appear to be max occupancy which seems to be a rather insane 53

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I think for game playing it's pretty well equipped in terms of spaces

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and people can always go and flop out in the apartments as well

cyan depot
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I found a place on Funen that would cope with 65 or something

lofty bough
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my record was 120

cyan depot
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and not that crazy expensive

lofty bough
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basically an entire hotel

cyan depot
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I still liked the one we found for last year where we could have an entire Welsh University

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like ~300

lofty bough
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some of the French chateaus also got in to big numbers

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oh yeah, Aber wasn't it?

atomic zephyr
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Solid smaller game room, and large eating room for bigger groups, looks very nice

lofty bough
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we're talking to the hosts