#Chaos Zero Nightmare
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pistol epi doesn't seems that useful in this setup
yeah, or dmg per bullet discarded
man that season 2 boss is so cancer, I still can't get 900k points
I'm only pending 900k on that boss, that shits pissing me off
I guess I can farm a hew extreme deck
are you doing extreme hew + that card that immediately makes it the highest tier?
No I was using Flash - before I quit last time I got 5% easy but this time it's more difficult
I think I have to use extreme
time to farm that save data
TIANAAAAAAAAAAAAA
failed auto on last boss again...
Who did you bring
narja, veronica, heidemarie
I've only failed once since release of update
Interesting
Usually the ones that fail are people not bringing in enough heals
Or they just got unlucky and lost to breakdown
You got Narja so that should have been enough
Unless your Narja didn't pick up mealtime?
she had it
You probably got unlucky with the targetting then
The final boss is the lady from blue pot right?
no it's the fuckass jailer
In the new chaos, it's the soul cage final boss from blue pot?
its the worst boss by far
Yeah, she's pretty hard cause the mechanics
multiple attacks per turn, big damage, big hp, 70% damage reduction while it has adds, constantly respawns adds
She gets what? 80% 90%? Damage reduction if there's summons alive
And you have to kill left to right
So id assume you got unlucky on the activations from your graveyard
you get to choose the target for those
but it's not like we can see what happened so
that thought just occurred to me too
senilegate 🦆🚬
at least it doesn't consume the auto item if you lose
this is pretty favorable as far as debuffs go too
should be fairly easy to clear

Got my last 3 cameras finally 
Am I stupid or I don't know what he means by this
"Linked is Hide's main Mechanic
If Cards are Linked together that means
If one of the Linked cards are used, the rest are discarded
The discard happens on cast, not on card resolution
So you cannot use a Linked card, then try to affect another Linked card
This does make Nia a bit more unfortunate with Hero to All"
it means that all card effects happen at once instead of chaining it
an example would be something like this
lets assume those 3 are linked
you play soul riff
I think it doesnt count the other 2 as discard for the soul riff
hero to all links 3 cards
the action would go:
play soul riff, discard sword rain and thread, soul riff goes off, the 2 other 2 cards discard effect goes off
at least thats how I interpret that
so you basically miss the 2 100% extra attack from soul riff
Hmm okay I think it makes sense
Altho afaik and experienced, all the quietus are procced right
quietus activates when discarded so yeah it should always work
the thing above is just telling you that there is a discard check near the start of the link chain before activating the first card
they should have given an example to make it clear
There's also this shit where he says quietus makes it so you can't abuse attunement what does that mean?
I'm assuming it means after it's discarded you can't pick it from discard pile?
because attunement activates when you draw it into your hand
but if you use nia and discard it from your library, it never enters your hand through a draw action
however, the quietus still activates because it only checks for a discard action
ill give you an example with that
lets say you have this one
if you draw that card through nia or just turn draw or whatever
you link Sword rain + 2 effulgent blades
however, if you use nias card
if you use nia's curiosity, and you see 3 cards and you dont pick sword rain
it will activate because of quietus tag, however, you don't get the effulgent blades because you never drew it and had it enter your hand to activate attunement
it'll only activate the 80% damage x 2
there are cards which just straight up discards a quietus card
Yeah that makes sense, although I'm still confused what does he mean by rain 0 can be abused
rain 0 is the base card
it doesnt have the quietus tag
meaning that persona card above can't ever hit the sword rain
maries meta gimmick is this
ESL to ESL comms ig
and you have someone like hugo or selena
so you use effulgent expansion to fill your graveyard with effulgent blades
then you use high-power scope or hugos upgrades
so they activate coordinated attacks when you play sword rain
I'm testing the vanilla sword rain first and it already seems broken
sword rain will play and you "activate"(very important) effulgent blades from the graveyard
which will make it so high-power scope will coordinated attack 5x
or hugo will lightning dingo 5x with the max stacks of commence the hunt
but i dont play that deck because while it is very powerful
i feel like its very restrictive and i prefer playing with diana
Ya it sounds like it's not easily doable in sortie
Which I'm more interested in
Doesn't mean I ain't gonna farm for it tho
yeah just build it if you want to play it
i just didnt build it because i like spamming attacks with marie and diana, thats all
It seems like a build that you farm and use for points endgame
Not sure if you can consistently get it in sortie
yeah its a save data build
you just dupe as many sword rains, because it activates it from the graveyard so it never leaves the graveyard
you just have lots of free damage
its pretty hard to get in sortie because you NEED those 2 cards to combo
and its hard to get dupe cards
so you might only get 1 sword rain
because you gotta keep in mind, sword rain is a way to generate effulgent blades
if you change it to the activate graveyard one, you have no way to generate effulgent blades besides the effulgent expansion
and what if you dont get that exact one
SG made a good call with the sortie mode so there are nuances on which epis are considered 'good'
i guess you can slowly scale 2 effulgent blades with the other effulgent expansions
sortie is good because it means the devs can really make some insane mechanics without it affecting the balance too much
another downside to playing effulgent blades from grave is you can only focus one target, all the oher effulgent blade builds hit your intended target and then random targets after that one is dead
for non-boss or general play I think the non-graveyard builds are way faster and easier to use
Started a sortie, just finished the first boss and no effulgent purple skill yet 
Man kayron is so stinky in sortie
You just get a combatant that just fills up your whole deck with 1 cost futilities that does nothing
If you don't get his upgrade that changes the futilities into attack heal versions
Got lucky with my kayron run cause I got tiphera
She has a card that exhausts 3 cards from anywhere
So she helped to keep the bloat down
Otherwise that run was probably doomed
Her playing should give -99 stress at every rest
Finally rng aligned and gave me heide/Nia/Diana
first LV 80 clear
Altho it's ez af compared to hardcore
Khalipe shield also goes wild
Which sortie is harder, regular 30 or hardcore 0?
should be the 30
since its a lot of gameplay changes
isnt it like 1.5x damage or something
and like 1.5x more hp
I do it for the love of the game
Hmm, trying 15 and going smooth up to second boss. Famous last words
Damn I'm using sereniel and the last boss is the one that gains fortitude each hit

Smilegate knows
did you find out which one was harder?
I think hardcore is harder
They have more stats from the get go
I also got more points failing at hardcore last boss than clearing diff 10 normal

Kinda mid I'm afraid
Hdmis worth it even if you got fucked over
The retrieve sword rain epi is usually shit but when it's 0 mana cost it's kinda goodge
bonk bonk bonk bonk
okay finally got her
i'm on 20 pity and i have 8 pulls currently
i think im skipping heidemarie copy to get the next character
losing 50/50 and going to max pity twice was harsh
is there a rescue tracker for czn? I'm curious about my rates for pity and 50/50
theres probably a tracker
but i wouldnt use it
just like the last time with wuwa trackers
people just put in the command without checking and they got hacked

I know how to check, but I couldn't find a tracker with a quick google search
oh, there is one now, but it's manual input https://www.czn-tracker.com/pull-tracker
Supabase-powered pull tracker for banners and pity history.

I need to rebuild my Nina
I got a decent save for her but I that was when the persona cards released and I didn't really know what was good.
So now she has a scuffed persona card
yeah the persona cards are pretty cracked
it tells you in your inventory
Altho more discards on Nia will help
They scammed me into paying the 2nd monthly, I thought it's the new monthly benefits
So I have 2 free runs a day
I'll never finish them 
oh yeah
the only good thin about that monthly is just the 1 extra skip a day
so you're basically just paying for 30 extra skips
I also used the editing item they gave so at least I'm getting full use of it
It's still 5 usd for almost nothing tho

yeah
thats the problem with smilegate
they somehow always manage to make the most dogshit packs or whatever
but they are always good with their free shit for some reason
which doesnt make sense
Straightforward.
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Good video 
Finally cleared HC all it takes is just draft all broken characters ig
And a good amount of upgrades
Trying with Nine next, got ironclad and Tiphera good start let's see if it's as easy as hdmi
what's next character? gonna start prefarming
tenebria
i swear this mark engraving does not exist
and im on selena
hunter or ranger exclusive on attack card btw
maybe selena is fraud ranger
Which site is that 
czn meta decks
it probably has the most up to date deck creator
i dont like how you can't really tell what is exclusive in game
like for example
look at this card
do you notice anything different?
compared to this card
besides the effects and tags
you can only tell the difference when you actually obtain the card and inspect it in more detail
but how would you know that if you never could check
top left of the images
Im dead not enough danage
Apparently adelheid but who knows it might be tenebria first
Pog I did it with nine, apparently need to double down on shields khalipe goat
I thought I wouldn't make it when they fucking gave me Selena
but she also has shields
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nia is literally me
Vanguard

Time to farm void
damn
almost made the most godlike selena
if only the nightmare hairpin was the lux engraving with the increase damage when action count increases
this selena would be popping off
or any other lux engraving would be good so I could get 2 more marks on my persona
14 marks, could have been 16
also can easily change the cards so thats not a big issue
kinda annoys me that there's only 1 card dupe item per season tho
that's like my most needed card edit item
do you go with selena or hugo in the typical activate 5 cards HDMI deck
i think hugo is better?
idk
but male furry?

choose selena
but selena only really works if you have marie at e6
probably something like this
give or take
the final guy can be cassius
just make the usual morale stacking cassius
something like this probably
the items on cassius is important
well, the engravings and only the armor
weapon and accessory can be whatever
engravings is +1 lux as a lux engraving
and +50% damage to ally attack cards for 1 turn if action count increases
the nightmare hairpin increases action count
yeah thats rough then altho hugo DansGame
but probably selena is fine I'm done with building super optimum builds anyways
most important is trying to get decent equipment+engraving and the persona
you can always fix the cards
Omgbruh 4 runs didn't see nia or cassius
it will be
this season ends in 53 days
and summer and the new rewritten story starts in 53~ days
china will get her first
and we will get her after this season
Having a lot of difficulty clearing HC more than 0 diff without nia
who are you picking as your first combatant
Hdmi
Issue with damage without the constant discards and deck thinning
Usually only at the last boss it becomes an issue om
Well either that or wipe quickly at the first stratum
https://www.reddit.com/r/ChaosZeroNightmare/comments/1t2kz7t/psa_you_can_check_the_boss_before_selecting_2nd/ maybe I just couldn't read om this should make things easier
Probably not intended but I don't think it's a big problem
So fucking tired of this mob om
cant wat for her to make counter team viable
been kinda lame that all my successful runs are heide/sereniel/nia or cass
maribell is pretty good since the buffs
what team and card setup for these guys
to build more damage
if there are guide
I used flash nine with AP generator for that middle unit in the team
ok
All I do is build off the guide in the pin 
and I just get generic dps and support persona cards that boost dmg
is the child today?
26 I think
You could use the new limited unit with Diana or replace her.
longer patch cycle with no content is making me lose interest in the game
They also need to fix the story at some point
you're right, that would help
You right maribell is really strong
Damage based shield does not decay unlike regular shields
I'm talking sortie ofc
CN release always does this to smilegate, happened during e7 too
it pretty stupid ngl
I'm waiting for adelheid now
Alright first shield HC run went well, actually easier than any HDMI runs I had 
counter teams are pretty viable
I've been running magna as first pick
and she just tanks through most stuff
counter teams are broken
its no wonder they nerfed it from beta closed testing
end of turn sanity didnt exist back then i think
so counter comps just shielded up and never lost
rift
:pointless:
but child soldier is in there
[Unique] Select and create 1 Doggie or Teddy card
The new Great Rift Boss, Punisher of Resentment, inflicts Stress on Combatants when cards are discarded
Kekvv
time to stress up
would have been better if she was a 4*
then we can get it along side another 5*

man gacha players are so stupid
they give you a game mode to play the game
and now they want sortie sweep

They are but CZN players are different kind of stupid I stg
gacha players will constantly move the goal post
just say that you dont enjoy the game
its really that simple
complain that theres only 1 delegation a day
make delegations infinite
complain that its a waste of time, you should just be allowed to choose exactly what you want
make it so you can choose exactly what you want
this game sucks, theres nothing to do after making your deck and clearing out the content
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What you said are all correct xely but somehow czn just gathers the most retarded of them
Gooner Korean game problem
biggest problem is listening to gooner players
u just need principle and create gameplay and optional + not too annoying
complainers are always keep complaining
that is how epic 7 pvp fell off when I remember jenazad critize about it but SG listen to their players guess what pvp is dead af

Not sure what you are talking about
I'm sure PvP is dead because the game is too old
No new blood playing
And PvP is too hard/confusing
Too many moving pieces that you have to remember about
Only veteran players still play because they like the game
Only traumatized cause she's noob, has a reality bending ability 
pvp "died" because the balance is super dogass
but ironically there's more players trying it than ever now
its not the gooners that made the balance suck
the team is just bad 
the balance was just chasing the newest ml 5*
cause they were always super powerful and meta defining
but there are definitely strong RGB units too
probably a 80/20 ml/RGB
people say its too hard to play turn 2 right now
if only they made their packs better, then it would do better
most players know that everything isnt worth buying except for lief packs
the biggest issue is if u dont have the latest ml problem unit its just permaban territory
I mean they used to not be completely gamebreaking every time
remember soli release
only niche counter
now its just like you don't have this unit -1 preban :^)
i dont even remember what the meta was back when soli was released
that shit was like 5 years ago
was that when red poli was still a thing
but yeah, soli was probably a pretty tame ml5*
like half of them were either niche or just decent units
not completely meta warping
now legit every new unit is if you dont have it ur playing a different game
i think it started around luna
cant imagine playing this game without ml luna
after playing without luna for 1 year
and then playing with luna, game is completely different
There are no correlations between gooning and pvp sucking they're two different teams anyhow
And yeah is it dead if more ppl are playing om
i think i know why people want to sweep sortie
i hate choosing the cards to play
i guess
i just wanna make out of combat choices and see stuff happen
the biggest reason that people want to sweep sortie is because "it takes too long to play"
its the classic gacha player mentality
they have to play the game
these are probably the same people that can spend hours on league of legends
or the same hours on any other game
they just dont want to play it but want the rewards, otherwise whats the purpose of sweeping sortie if it doesnt give save data?
its for the save data editing items
sortie is meant to be the for fun game mode but the players dont want the fun, they just want the reward that it has
I think they just need to increase how much people get outside of sortie
maybe double it outside of sortie or something so these guys can cry about something else
i don't think that's the right solution
in a gacha game you do all the content to get scraps
so adding more rewards to other modes won't make people happy because sortie still has rewards
maybe autobattler deck builder is a thing that people want to play
i mean thats just one step removed from vampire survivors isn't it?
i mean most gacha players dont actually want to play games
they just want the dopamine of pulling and getting rewards for nothing
not saying all gacha players but most
but then the gacha players that do want to play the game, will complain that theres no gameplay if the devs decide to go auto
i guess the same applies to those who dont want to play too since it will become a chore to log in
since everything will just be sweeped or autos
but the loudest players are usually the ones that dont want to play the game
Sortie is pretty much all I play now so hopefully they maintain it
Idm if the rewards are less grindy to get
So ppl can auto LV 65 or something idk
nooooo, but it should be my RIGHTS to be able to clear level 80 harcore + all modifiers with ease

or else if im running level 65, it means im getting LESS rewards than you

why do you guys get more rewards than me even though we spend the same amount of energy

but nah, they should just focus on the players that want to play the game instead of the babies
hopefully its a success in china
that will let us know if the game will work or not
we will know on the 28th May
Well we don't have auto yet. What I meant is idm auto for non HC or non endgames so ppl can auto and get rewards if they really hate playing roguelike so much
the main problem is got the character but have to get their gear
rng stats
and farming mats
able to play them

Tourist take weebow, sortie doesn't require gear or rng just potentials
and thats why 2 2 2 will always be goated
I was wondering where did you see all these discussions cos r/czn are content for once
It's r/gacha, we write them off
theres some that appear in the czn discord under feedback

but yeah the main ones are from r/gacha which is basically r/mihoyo
most of the time the people shit on them

How did smilegate think this is fun will forever be a mystery
i uninstalled czn again I'll be back for the next limited
didnt end up farming for the partner
still somehow didnt wake up for 3 battles

guess ill just run 2 healers
maybe the -50% hp was too much for narja

Throw her into the front lines
everyday the players step away from roguelikes
but the tier thing is kinda dumb
i think that the tier should be linked to the difficulty
that way you always get t13
or t14 or whatever you want
however, the modifiers are random
i feel like theres too much of a range for the tiers
difficulty 8, 9 and 10 roll between t11 and t14?
thats like 1 copy difference
unlock everything
let us choose everything
then no one has to argue
you can just random and the casuals can choose
idk i feel like giving options to the player to specifically target farm isnt a good idea in a roguelike
but thats just me
i feel like its better to reduce the RNG than to remove the RNG for roguelikes
cause you should be playing with what hand you are given
hes only asking for less rng for refreshing for deck tiers
but the title says he wants to pick the world
so idk if he wants both or just the tiers?
but the difficulty thing is really stupid though, difficulty 8 has the same benefits as difficulty 10, its just easier and faster to run
thats why they should just lock tiers to the difficulty
most of the time you dont even need 140 faint memory in a save data run anymore unless you are trying to save data farm without using the editors
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its up
turn 1 0 cost tutor
just copy 4x this card
get the perfect starting hand
E2 broken as usual
her partner is also a tutor 
can pick your planet now
GOTY
I like how they just keep buffing yuki 
corrupted core is basically a vaal orb
new baddie incoming

holy fuck please real buffs this time I can't take it anymore 
the chaos and season will be shilled to hell for the new dps anyway not like it'll do shit for her
and those two other bozos always in tow

Idk why ppl are so worried tenebria isn't going to be evil, we have a lot of signs already from the new chaos
And the story too
not shown in EN stream
they really put their whole stream into their autoplay launcher BROOOTHER
its thyme

time for pulls
then 👋

child soldier havers 
so she's just a massive shield generator
and kinda draw support
Ooop I also pulled for her partner
Might be a bad decision
But I'll enjoy my bad financial decision
Abstinence until Tenebria now
She just needs def right?
def, cr/cd, void damage
her damage seems not very good at first glance, but maybe epiphanies change that, prioritize def

thats quite the large and impressive package
if I may be so bold
so is the child soldier giga b b broken
we got a reason to send her into the chaos
Is this korea propaganda to get people to have kids 
have kids and send them into dangerous situations
thats right
that crystal pack is pretty huge
but still expensive
monthly is 3000 a month for $5
this one is 8780 for $30
which is 2x more expensive than monthly
but then again you can't stack monthlies but only can extend it so its still "good" if you need crystals
monthly is 600 crystals per dollar
this pack is 292 per dollar
I bought that for Tenebria

Baited as hell
the half anniversary ticket bundle is also "decent"
its 240 crystals per dollar
buying crystals is only 64.8 crystals per dollar ($100 pack)
hot garbage pricing
aight ez 50/50
I continue having every character and multiple partners while barely playing lol
and people say this game needs to be more generous
i think its fine if you buy the monthy pack
but then again ive been quite lucky
i think ive only failed 2? 50/50s
i skipped haru though
I don't even have monthly pack, I only bought it once at release

also failed quite a bit of 50/50s
collect her pages 
also fkin hate this mode this fuckers nuke me

Those guys better not be hoyo players, this game is quite generous really
doggie
shes actually pretty op
really good sub dps, even main dps
while providing shields
They confirmed the dates on this Livestream
But it was known 2 Livestreams ago that we will be getting Fei on another date
The story rework is happening at the same time Fei will drop for us, or around that time
first save data for her is weird but i guess it's fine
oh yeah
just so you guys know
Tenebria is going to be red passion
and Fei is going to be dark void ranger
dont know what class tenebria will be
or at least has not been completely confirmed
good to know
its got to a point where i don't have the patience for czn story anymore
i just skip it all
oh right, automod
anyways i can already tell that this priest guy is trying to take advantage of adelheid's imagination powers
even with skipping everything
i hope we get to kill this fat fuck priest
he did nothing wrong!!!
I don't believe you
its time for me to send her onto the front lines
if you build her for damage instead of shields, her damage is quite high
she might be b-b-b-broken
with that debuffer dps build above im doing 4k per TBAS
i bet if you focus on doggie and blessing all cards its way higher
nice got my support child now
gotta make a dps one now
wtf the big bad wolf was actually a black cat!!!!!
omgbruh they want me to play this????
for the alde event
no, its the same ones but the alde event requires you to clear soul collector
just went through the new story
they make it seem like ||tenebria is the chaos order cultist boss|| but let's see how they pull this off
i'd rather they not try to subvert expectation here
also everyone seems to be using dream world morale bullshit this season for rift
fuck that mode tho
4 shield comp goat, gonna farm a bit more then progress to sortie 8
i stuck with counterattack
are u going to 9/9?
new decc
3 initiation select draw is kinda insane
its just any 3 card setup you can think of at start of combat
with optional discard fetch using TBAS
Where are you seeing new story?
Oh I meant chapter 2 of this event
fei is ranger dark void from the cn client
we dont know about tenebria yet or its not confirmed yet
but apparently shes passion red from the director
shes apparently top tier
dps
sereniel hidemarie nine tier dps
I'll start prefarming now
Void ranger next?
no
fei is after tenebria
tenebria is red passion(according to the director, idk if troll?) but dont know the class
probably red passion psionic
makes the most sense
Wut da I thought sortir already refunded full stamina
Smilegate genius programmers at it again
need a 10 pull compensation asap
tiny soldier was the relief I needed from my terrible luck on heidemarie
i'll have plenty of time to save up for next character now
seems viable? a little inconsistent with the blessings though
have you tried the doggie (pack) one?
with copies into making you deck into blessing
you need to unlock the node in the event zero systems first
you have to click the magnifying glass on the chaos order symbol
unfortunately or fortunately theres nothing really to do in this game at the moment
good for no FOMO
That's true
Doing well in the revenue war tho
But it is just waiting room except if you're diff 30 hardcore sortie already I guess
china loving the game i think
Not even incl china yet, only a few days and not reflected fully yet
I'm having a pretty good routine with czn now, just do 2 mins daily and play whenever you want to push sortir
china had czn for 3 days before the end of the month
and they made 1m?
which is pretty damn good
but this is 1m on those monthly gacha sites so its not entirely correct
I think they're also not very good at that level of granularity
Might not be fully capturing all even on mobile
Think we'll see much more from Chyna by the end of this month
china loves slay the spire
so czn should do relatively good
assuming they keep adding more qol and content
I'm trying to use Yuki cos of the sortie buff
All I can say is I can't wait for her buff announcement om
But maybe now that I have her tutor cards it'll get easier
it'd be funny if the story revamp changes owen into owenette
Owen is my boy he's aite
Also his hangout with the captain is kinda 😳 but we are not ready for that conversation
He's also decent in sortie btw cos he has a lot of vulns on demand








