#Umamusume: Pretty Derby
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13 stars spurt with double circle affinity and still did not get it 

el kelassiko
Should i wait for the final day gap for 44 mc queen shards so i can have a 4* mc queen
Or farm the better mcqueen now
rng is something else
one of my guildmates quit because of this CM 
This cm is a whale deck check
It is simply not possible for my deck to go 1200 1200 speed stam
And thats 400 pulls
But then their is a lucky ass combatlawyer with 200 pulls mlb creek
yeah and you can see it on a lot of people's horses you face
a lot of people don't have the stats for it
Like just having an mlb creek and borrow biko is so massive stat diff
Even 3 to 5* goldship diff is massive
20 less speed stam needed only 1 less training

will people will come back when there are anniversery
and QOL
yeah
chaos zero night mare
arknight enfield
and star savior
try to be epic7 + uma
but have qol
yeep
there is almost no incentive to come back to a game like this once you quit due to a reason like frustration due to not being able to build horses that compete. Unless you come back soley for the waifu collection aspect you are hit with the same problem as before only worse because now you are even further behind
its recommended that you put 600-800 pulls into a deck
new scenario has power creep cards that launch with it or soon after it
yes but you will have no pulls and bad deck still for the other cards
also the pulls u get from playing r mot that crazy
how copium is this
as in, f20 players will always be card starved
@velvet glade kick someone from the club pls
you are not magically guranteed to get anything in this game and most cards need 3lb min
It's pretty cope, this suzuka is front right?
Redshift will do nothing
Pump is impossible
u got one more month do better
borrow my seiun wuart
kick someone from the guild and i will
redshift will only work on lates/ends because fronts/paces are going to be in 5th too early
gotta ping llacari im not officer
pump needs you to be in 6th
which is practically impossible as front
unless you fucked up
or theres 6 fronts and you are behind all of them
for front you need seiun and pasa
pasa is there to clinch as someone with seiun inherited, seiun herself has a strong enough unique to not need anything
well ofc you want the ground work package + mid game speed skills too ideally
what is the fallback for the failed anglers besides dying?
There isnt
thats why front is an all in strat
and why people are building blockushins
but the issue is
seiun ult is so strong
that it is just game winning
im looking to go 2 fronts + 1 late
the late being for if someone fucks the front
if you want to block
this 33m
is the only point you can proc anglers
blockushins are aiming to only block that specific 33m
because angling needs you specifically to be on the corner in the late race and thats the only point
the rest is a straight
and the lates/ends will win if you deny it
???
does angling even work with golshi?
ig if there's no front?
was also being ran late surger
No, theres maybe a world where you can hit it because the corner is late, but thats just redshift level, its too late
anything after like half the corner, even on fronts who get it as soon as possible
does very little
it shouldnt be doing anything realistically
bro got the lucky 7 proc 
78% WR its so cooked today
i'll take my solo ace 75% 
i feel like trying to run my end condor yesterday tanked my rudolf's winrate more 
she just never won
basically running a two man team the whole time yesterday 
nobody queued? 
looks like it
happened to a friend of mine too
The game overall income is around 650 to 700 pulls, and pulling on umas at some point is necessary
Seiun ult is strong if she gets to ult
cm 3 the condition of angling is limited so a good front block can easily grief all anglers
Seiun is easy to deny if you have a big roster
one of the things i don't get
if you need a blocker to have all the skills
why not just make them a winner 
really consistent cause you have higher wit power and more skills to keep first until after acceleration is over
The bakushin basically doesnt need any speed (outside of winning ura)
because as above
you just need to block 33m
Its really easy to block

needs groundwork to proc though
if that's the case I'm interested in running 2x late
Yeah ground work proc is the only rng
But you go 600 wits anyway
Ace or blocker
What's the % on 1200
Skill proc rate chance?
ya
the blockshin ideally is like 600/601/1200/314/1200
Going above 600 wits is super cope
ye the returns for wit is so bad
For me a loosing a 15% or 7% is no different
Its insanely low chance
If i unlucky im unlucky
Maybe 900 but above 900 is kinda grief
E7 classic
wit for fronts is not about skill proc
its about posisitioning
dumb fronts do not overtake
the entire point of blockushin
is to block that 33m
if you arent in the front of the pack for it
you did nothing
Why did they say blokushin tho isn't smart falcon better if you wanna block or I missed something
cause blockushin is free
the point of blockushin is not to also run front
its to cuck front and go late
in that case yes if you are front just run other fronts
if you are putting in the effort to do smart falcon
why waste it on a debuffer
I mean getting smart falcon to A turf (and gamba S) is trivial so I thought the effort needed is kinda the same without rng checking for mile S
If they write blokushin for access and ease of use I guess it makes sense
shes also a 20% wit uma
growth
like its the same reason why would you run a debuffer over another ace
if you are willing to put in the extra work go for it
you have to roll for smart falcon
the point is not to make bakushin and put a ton of mid game skills
get the stats
get the debuffs if you want
and cuck front
So bakushin herself is not the point she's just a poster girl right?
yes minimal effort
dude what is going on with all these fucking retards running fronts
Hyped for this one
ngl I gonna wait to see how it goes
also star savior copy epic 7 and uma system
actually peg
Czn and star savior waiting room
4 months of basically nothing but umas

yah
no new job
and etc
only speeding up banner
no rain of free shit
when people drop out a lot
they going to add those shit later include QOL

fucking cygame
is it the yes guy in the discord club?
its cooked
our 1500 gems 😭
no venalita quit 
u in diferent guild?
What in the lacari gold ship is this guy
Most people are in umasen unlike you who betrayed us back and forth to baldys guild


What's with the iron will cucks today
No

not bad for a test run 

i also had the wrong card, meant to take helios but took hishi amazon instead 
the rng for stats was pretty mid though since i didn't get a mood up until 2nd year
-1 borrow love to see it

calling f2p are sharks in uma
lurking for good parents and hit follow button very quick
and his good gold ship lost to 800 speed and 250 wit

Pretty sure he is giga whale
I'm just going on Chronogenesis.net whenever I need mang
He never streams his uma right
is that any different from uma db
the jp source
he does
at least he doesn't spend and quit like lacari
I'm not sure, someone here recommended it. It's easier to use for sure
And no intrusive ads that I notice
yeah i just have adblock on anyway
It has the better mobile UI and I mostly play on phones so I stick to it
i do honse.moe and uma db
chronogenesis has the most people
because its scraping everyone in the top 3k clubs

is this another database for global
Yes I almost always use it now
from what I can tell
chronogenesis has everyone
or at least
1.6m trainers
and 113k clubs
its the website that is tracking peoples daily fans
for clubs
chronogenesis is the best one out of the 3
it seems to have updated profiles
the JP one is the least updated
It also has a ui from 2025 which helps
but its the easiest to use, its simple and quite fast
the uma.moe one is the hardest to use, its sorta updated
chronogenesis is the most up to date, medium in usability
i prefer the JP database cause its simple and super easy to use
I hate using the jp one on phones
its updated daily
Chronogenesis solves that issue for me
like
its the only one that was not opt in
or it just needs 1 person in the club to opt in to get everyone
because theres no other way to get daily fan counts afaik
than checking it daily
This is
, very likely
gigawhale with giga luck
his golshi 
shes going to be gentle alright
the sunscreen massage will go crazy
Farming groundworks right now and i could've had the most perfect seiun sky
Shit is stupid

get in line 
NEVA
fucked by guts man
zzz
this has insane whites
summer, tokyo, 2 standard dist, groundwork3
Uuuh
gp for cm4 
uuh... LICKA?
https://www.theguardian.com/artanddesign/2025/sep/13/black-kenyans-horse-racing-nairobi-picture-essay damn horse game influenced my recommended articles so much
Happy for them 
im also doing maruzensky runs because she's the most convenient 
so far i got a decent one but no miles yet
Damn miles are so much more fun to train than medium/longs
More uma variety, I feel like I'm swimming in skill points
my mayano wins once every 10 matches but she locked in against the only good wedding mayano 
She said you do NOT have that shit on
shes really good since i can cope and run all the tokyo left G1s
bro my OGLSHI HAS GOTTEN 5 bad MOODS OUT OF 8 RACES?????
and try to get green
again
too bad only bourbon likes her

i havent read it btw
hes pissed about the
1200 + 2 gold shit
and the 900 1200 better than 1200 900 thing
i'll be honest i almost got taken by that too until i tried some room matches
or i wouldve used 900/1200/600
1200+2 is like pacer shit
it basically gaurantee you finish
1200 + 1 is like 70% chance to full spurt
so the question is do you need consistency or higher ceiling
He quoted what the youtuber said
which is you'll get to finals with 1200+2
and you can cause I did

if he wants to have a 1 pager the canva that is tossed around does it all
but you won't be winning all your races
unless you have 1100+ 1200+2
also the op took iron will

lacari gold ship

"The stamina requirement on this CM is actually more important than hitting the speed requirement. You are going to sacrifice EVERYTHING to hit that stamina requirement and that is around 1100-1200 stamina and 2-3 gold recovery skills. If you have to sacrifice stats, the first stat you actually will sacrifice is speed." (Prep for Gemini Cup in 9 Minutes or Less | Champions Meeting 2 Guide by a 90% WR Umamusume PVPer)
I think the OP might take it too literally
and not just the OP I saw something like 800/1200 long A goldship
that must be another victoria victim
although I think 800/1200 with spurt and 2 gold skills can probably still win
i actually cant believe he didnt win once with this even with the scuffed heals
wuts wrong with vf
think he's just crashing out
i thought he was p good
he is
nothing OP just crashed out
and some people took his words too literally

oh 
iron will is the biggest scam ever
they give it to you for free
and it does nothing
i mean the fact it is beginning of the race
is kinda the game telling u: if u never watch ur own horses race
u will not know this is a bad skill
and u deserve it
iron will is the most evil thing the japanese does after that big war 80 years ago 
"i followed the video and made this gold ship, she won 50% of the time"
no shit, when I tried to make 1200 stam I only had 850 speed 
obviously the OP is a retard though because he has the same stats
https://old.reddit.com/r/UmamusumeGame/comments/1ngcdsu/i_blame_some_people_in_this_community_and_myself/ OP is not the only one, this guy probably posted this after crashing out though so he doesn't look as stupid 
but then again what is "poor performance" you just need to win 3/5 one time
🐐
it anything i should be the one crashing out cause i didn't get 100% win rate day 4 
im the definition of mid this CM, 55% wr
i spent a whole 1 week training my aces what do you mean i didn't get 100% win rate 
post it on uma reddit and farm downvotes
but they're farming updoots
Damn this guy farmed 500 upvotes picking Iron Will
Most people probably read the headline I guess
3rd day 9 borrows no mile s

DAMN
yeah I give up doing 600x4 runs too inconsistent or maybe im just bad. i just get more speed to save my sanity
damn used all attempts in 1 hour

How do you know he’s not doing this out of hate and spite? You don’t.
QRT: horseimage
horse sliding down hill just for fun and joy
I mean the problem is very apparent he has no mid race skills so she can never reliably overtake at late race and will suck the innr railing instead
Well yeah he lost because the only way he ever wins is their is no traffic ahead, thats why my mayano with no midrace skills win every 7 to 10 races
They forgot the part where he constantly emphasised taking midskills im his own streams he is willing to take straight adept or conrner adept to have at least some mid race skills
curvature cause everyone else takes it 
Just adept is fine but curvature if the only mid race option isnt bad
u aren't the only one here
wajaja
you just jinxed yourself
my rainbows are trash
it's over
chat is this good enough
@hard sorrel
i need u
you're like the smart guy here right
one inch of love strikes again
those were the best skills not even kidding
omg bruh
better than nothing i guess
i am not an expert obviously but
for front runners u want a lot of velocity skills in middle or early
gok
so u are ahead when u reach the moment angling and scheming procs
yea i just wanted to make u feel bad
🙁
I'm on mobile rn but you basically get like a 5% speed bonus if you hit 901 Stam and guts combined
oh i can't get that with my cards
You also kinda want groundwork but that might be more work than you want to do
- Thh package
The trick is
To pick guts on random events
what the hell
so even on stages where u dont need stam u do need stam
It depends on the track
but this one specifically takes into account guts and stam
ty
its good we have our very own spreadsheet translator

on the parent run 
waja...
anyone got a blockushin deck
This was really good stat wise but yeah those mid race skills o7
Wtf thats an insane amount 
for full clarification you get a 20% bonus for 901, its a 5% increase from 601-900
guts to 300 is doable too many events give guts, but power and wits night tank a bit
Too many stat targets for my f2p ass deck
No bourbon mlb with front skill hins
im tempted to wing the next CM with double late surgers, having to tick all the right RNG for a groundwork front is kinda tilting 
i still want to try to make bourbon works out though
we still have 3 weeks right? 63 tries
yeah
do you guys think pump iron is going to be worth
its assuming theres gonna be 5 front runners to be consistent
im having seconds thoughts on a mejiro ryan parent
Farming for groundwork spark parent and i got this run. If only i got S mile
groundwork on suzuka and i'm set 
holy groundwork, speed eater, summer runner, mile S
if only it was firm instead of good condition 
my new haru urara
and good luck guys on the final
I going to start doing my final at lacari hour
I'm gonna be 3rd

I can feel it
lacari hour seem easier
that's still free carats 
3 guts off
single dad queue
6 restricted trainings in 1 year
gold shit you're really testing me
the motherfuckers +2 was iron will
<300 wit and <600 power 
i mean for lack of power prob inheritance is full stam?
but golshi even has 10% power growth
So when does final race actually start, is it when registration ends?

he registered 
I think I'm cooked


somehow made a finals with absolute trash'

this is all victoria frontier's fault 
and yeah that tachyon pretty cracked too
then isnt it kinda true that 1200 stam is a scam

i also went into final with sub 1k spd GS, just need to get that working 3 jobs single dad queue
ngl
im full time 6 -2 and i only do 3 runs a day
idk how a single dad is gonna keep up 
he can do it during his uber runs
no way a single dad with 3 jobs gonna play silksong or the gamer games
hes gonna play HSR or uma
YAAY
single dad is gonna hop on cod like the good old days and get tapstrafed by a zoomer
ah yes definitetly not a p2w game 
1 speed docnotL
das pretty gud
yeah i cant complain with this, if it's 3 or even 2 speed would be nice though. im hitting myself for throwing the run couldve got 1100
What g1 races are you targeting
Im facing a problem my mile parents are struggling with stam on medium races because all my stam comes from event and power training
all the miles & normals, i only avoided the long G1s and hopeful stakes lul
but i do make sure to race more miles so i get URA finals miles
Yeah im also doing all miles only
But i cant make some umas parent like mejiro ryan
She is too focused on medium long
i had to compromise my spark decks because of that. my ryan runs would die because i couldn’t get enough stamina
ye you gotta either get some goat inherits or adjust deck
I imagine stats are easy for this, right? 1200/600/1200?
Holy fucking shit.
No 1200 600 x 300 x these are the must stats, you'll have to compromise on power or wit as f2p
The whale diff will be power and wit this cm

Red spark is guaranteed 
are your affinities bad 
its double circle
That's why I gave up on long S goldship too
10 star mile 2 star late

wrong juan
Whats the parent mile stars
4 or more parent mile stars cane make distance S above 50%
2
Thats the problem
bruhhh
there's also differences between double circles
since affinity extends beyond 200
i keep hitting my fucking turf S instead of mile S though 
Try to get 4 parent 8 gp
Its around 52% proc chance pr career and no 3* reliance
And getting 2* or more chance is 80%
On pink spark
If your able to min max affinity it can further increase
i do have the 4 parent 8 gp but its not on the parent i want i wonder if i should just say fuck triamphant pulse and just ball with with a velocity skill
Imma be honest last spurt skills are ass
Mid race skills are better because you get to have a better position
Pulse only matter if you have 3 or 4 mid race and you still have sp options
Last spurt velocity boost is heavily effected by performance in mid and late race
I have also won like 1 out of 80 cm2 matches with pulse diff
Im telling you from cm lobby experience
Pulse proc alot but only once i encountered i won because of pulse proc at the end
okay ill just stick with the 12 star mile
honestly should have just asked this discord sooner
-12 borrows
what uniques are you using
pump iron and vodka unique
late surger gamba 
yeah im doing 2 late 1 pace
do you even need stam skill for mile
2nd try of trying to be a hipster
Ill also go daiwa with 2 late one definitely being vodka

get red shift for the gamba as well instead of vodka
nah no point getting stam skill
Isnt red shift late?
But late has on your left and furois feat
im getting the redshift on my elcondor pasa
you have 2 unique slots
you want as many accels as possible so one of them procs at the right time for late
Winning ticket card is p good but its hard af to get the stat requirement with it
For vodka having marz or takui as 2nd parent is - 19 affinity
wtf
it's worth for late cause you're already gambling whether you win or not
your accels don't always proc at the right time unlike fronts and ends
grass wonder with maruzensky good?
The affinity gap is too massive when forcing marx as 2nd parent
Thats 0.4x spark chance increase multiplier for an ult that might trigger at ideal time very few times
283051409706 7 mile, 6 groundwork pasa parent
am gonna run both vodka and grass wonder
vodka got furious feat
2 bill tin acceleration skills
id have barely enough blue flags if id want to potential 5 vodka
I have to spend all 4k club points to pot 5 grass wonder
Or manually grand out the sash 
after matching and it will be fixed match?
1 star wonder 
should be, iirc once u click register ur match is technically set already
its automatically registered you are just confirming your lineup
oh so when does the actual matching happen then? right after round 2?

I cant get 600 stam with my deck
time to get my cooked
narita ate shit like usual

how was your
Any 2 time champions
?
and still loose
Nice 1200 stam
i had literal jobbers
Thanks victoria
all these fuckers are high stat and S long
i lost even with spurt 😭
i lost the q lottery and won 

gz king
i think i got blocked by my own
i should have ran double debuff narita was worthless
1 2 finish over 1200 stams
which is why I run 2 end
depend on 1 end
is risky

now have to build mile
runner
parents
oh im so happy my goldship won that shit 
my fat ass nice nature to the left and special week to the front
She running inside track with a huge traffic jam
and I spurted
It was so free 😭
My 1 stam gold skill Mcqueen won
nice nature is inconsistence compare to haru urara front ngl
Great mood so riskier build works
Potential girl
front believers
THANK GOD GOLDSHIP BROUGHT HER A GAME
i didn't notice my rudolf could reach 3:12.5 if everything actually procs well 
3rd got rushed ,no lucky pace, bad gates end closer got inner most pace got the outer most gate, no spurt procs on both aces no swinigng on both end aces
HOLY FK EVERYTHING WENT
wrong
but this cm was cursed from the begninning unlucky
enemy had max 1k speed i had a chance but literally proc nothing

OFCOURSE ITS FKING stam the on stats i cant get to 600 out of the 3 options AND OFCOURSE THE GROUND WORK HAS TO BE A 1* BECAUSE CANT HAVE FKING 2* LOOSE 50/50 EVERY FKING TIME 
i pussied out of playing daiwa this cm to only see the first guy streaming the run loosing to the most dogshit daiwa because of lucky pace into perfect late race ult and winning
i lost because i didnt had faith in daiwa

farming for white sparks for mile parents is pain ngl, i keep getting 2nd 
someone posted this monster in the victoria dis
the yaeno muteki skills are the onlything saving my ass
you can unironically not win against this, she procs ult remains 1st till late race procs angle and remains first till the race ends
your only win condition against this is angle not procing
was that group B
oh group A has same rewards for 3rd as B winner now 
ill be fine with group a third place everytime
its ok
i just wish they would hurry the fuck up with qol
i want to grind my mile horses but its pointless without the borrow parent
don't need to worry so much since there's a cm every month
Doesn't hit recoveries in finals
there'll be other ones 
im giong to wear taurus bronze forever
this guy won the finals
actually incredible
All wins i have seen so far are either massive stat diff or the most insanely lucky wins with others getting super unlucky
someone is logging the taurus cup results for CCs 
Where's the Gemini ver 
If he doesn't win that's a ground for sudoku tbh
8L absolute dominance baby
Do the opponents debuff pop up to the side?
Because only my air groove debuff activated i think.
yes
the ones with an image of an uma = yours
no uma = enemy
or something
i cant remember
Oh. Then my opponents are unlucky then. Don't think their air grooves proc their debuffs
And they didn't use active on straightaway spurt
They don't show them in cm
You can see debuffs pop though, like you'll see the red effect
and nothing on the side
I was in a lobby with 4 debuffers and none of them showed so idk its a choice but im pretty sure they are hidden
seems like golds do show up
but I dont think whites do
yeah it's weird, i feel like not all their skills show up too
Yeah debuffs and spurts don't show methinks
You can tell because you can see the particles occur on the other umas but yeah nothing pops up on the right
that's what i've noticed too
haru hit every one of her debuffs at nice times 
way more useful than narita paperweight
Spurt diff
hes the goat

think im kinda cooked next cm
dont know if i have it in me to grind like that again right now
you gotta pick and choose your cms 
just focus on making parents
then you can make any ace
the parents dont even need to be godlike
can cope
i never recommend try harding the longs or sprints
I got 2nd in group b

Pretty happy considering i only had a week to prep and did not know wtf a parent was
this game SUCKS
I lost to a top gun bro
yeah my 18k carats have sat there for the last 3 weeks
and its only at a grand total of 18k carats right now



Minus wit 
Failed 1 check kek
I think this is a good blueprint tho I'll just switch 1 power card to wit
The powers are mostly from spd anyways
I'll get another ace first tho
baldo lost WAJAJA

golshi brocked = roos
lacari lost
How's his Brian tho
lacari did not win
this shit is so consistent now idk why
I couldnt do it before cm2
it's also so nice to have your own parent
I think I gained about 60 followers since last night as well 
Why cooked she's OP
no mile s
Have a feeling you'll win some anyways with that power


















