Umamusume: Pretty Derby

[spare storm]

chronix nooooooooooo

[errant basin]

we 🪟

[quartz coral]

hella ghosted

https://tenor.com/view/thanos-dusty-dust-gif-24381214

[turbid tusk]

wait seiun sky unique makes her campaign easy

[rigid bear]

brute forsen with front runner

😔

[turbid tusk]

the best part is her accel works on like 80% of courses

[spare storm]

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=WE297Q0eYSo

you could only wish you were this uma

living the life

[oblique tree]

oh yeah i applied for the guild @spare storm

[turbid tusk]

what's your profile name i can accept it

[oblique tree]

Garudyne

[velvet glade]

gz on all ur seiun sky

i hope no1 had to go 200 pull

[turbid tusk]

groundwork dodged again

[sharp kernel]

Okay my Mayano got Long S and spurt but no maestro proc yet. Cygames really looking at my account and say you'll never get everything

Even cool down will be fine come on. 8 more months to go

And my bathroom break is over docnotL got to wait until I get out of corpa

[turbid tusk]

[sharp kernel]

Would've been goated with groundwork

[turbid tusk]

ye

there's 6 groundwork on the grandparents though

so it's not the worst

[velvet glade]

yo whats ur friend number

xylongy 😼

[turbid tusk]

lemme go check

967879281118

[velvet glade]

Yes

[kindred pagoda]

According to victoria the uma is the best until valentine bourbon and get completely obsolete when smaru speed card comes,

[sharp kernel]

Which Uma, Xmas oguri?

[velvet glade]

would u skoomah

[sharp kernel]

If I have an ace ready already, yes

[velvet glade]

i dont

[sharp kernel]

Then if it were me id be too much of a pussy to click

[velvet glade]

ok skipped

[sharp kernel]

Wait I forgot is it year 2 or 3

Oop

[velvet glade]

2

[sharp kernel]

If it's year 3 I don't think you have a choice but to gamba

Ok then I'd do the same

[velvet glade]

ill tell u if it worked out

not gonna win but its smth

[pallid aurora]

never say never

your rudolph killed it first cm after all

[velvet glade]

ye my rudolph

no1 believed in her (not even me)

[pallid aurora]

[sharp kernel]

I'd say skipping paid off

Too high of a risk

[velvet glade]

i think so too

[sharp kernel]

You'll beat up a lot of Reddit nerds surely

[velvet glade]

now i can take more risks

[sharp kernel]

It's also actually better than my ace if not for long S

[sharp kernel]

Yeah next time youre faced with that decision you can push that button cos you have a backup

Power kinda sus though

[velvet glade]

ye...

low power + no accel skill

im just betting on ppl not reaching stam / speed cap

i couldve picked firm condition mbe better than standard distance

fck my guts is p high i def couldve picked firm conditions

[sharp kernel]

It's not a bad bet but yeah power seems kinda goodge here because there are not a lot of good accel skills

Except spurt and that taishin bitch

I guess daiwa scarlet too

[velvet glade]

daiwa is interesting as a funnel for seiun parent?

ill make her my third ace then

[sharp kernel]

I lost to a few daiwas

No fronts so she became the furthest pace chaser

And couldn't catch her

I think her Accel skill still works decently well in this map, I don't really know the details though just the fact that it does

[velvet glade]

daiwa can front right?

or top gun

[sharp kernel]

Daiwa can front but her race planner is wasted then. I'm not sure of front viability in this CM if we're not whaling

[velvet glade]

u want her to front

[sharp kernel]

In the room matches I've played she's always pace

[velvet glade]

with seiun skill

if her own accel procs too then

im just speculating but pace is not that good

xylongy just said

[sharp kernel]

True but stam is a struggle

[velvet glade]

gourmand is free

oh ye

u need swinging then

ic the issue

[sharp kernel]

You need swinging and cool down from McQueen card

And that card pisses me off

[velvet glade]

ye i use it

[sharp kernel]

If you have both you're golden I think

Front daiwa might work with seiun

[velvet glade]

we might be cooking

u can use the u=mc2

idk how consistent as a front

[errant basin]

im done with gemini rng

no s inherit runs perfectly fine

s inherit mood - 100000

[velvet glade]

ye its just too many checks

[errant basin]

and fucking cooldown rng

[velvet glade]

love having step 3 cooldown coming in december 2nd year

and then not proccing yellow

[errant basin]

600 stam is like 65%

to not get boned

[sharp kernel]

That's why swinging maestro is da bes

[velvet glade]

ye if u get it early

[errant basin]

look at this shit

[velvet glade]

u know u get shafted

[errant basin]

1000+ isnt even guaranteed

[velvet glade]

if i am 2 /3 early on cooldown

i know whats gonna happen

[errant basin]

ive hit the fucking cooldown event all 3 times pre debut

[sharp kernel]

https://tenor.com/view/super-creek-gif-20757975

Look how those maestros are swinging

[velvet glade]

lemme show u despair lico

[turbid tusk]

power goodge cause the uphill slows you down without enough power

300m of slowed speed cause not enough power

[velvet glade]

so ur saying my special week not gonna win a thing

[turbid tusk]

she should win cause her stam is passable

[velvet glade]

should i have picked firm conditions instead of standard?

[turbid tusk]

wait is she not running end

[velvet glade]

no xd

[turbid tusk]

you have no late gamba skills to win

[velvet glade]

i need gourmand 😭

[turbid tusk]

standard will probably save you

[velvet glade]

ok good

so firm conditions woudlve been throw

[turbid tusk]

it would've been fine

you still need both stam skills to proc

[sharp kernel]

S long, spurt, somehow got blocked 4x and didn't finish ura finals

But it's fine because she didn't proc neither swinging maestro nor cool down anyway so she's a bust

Look at next Mayano she'll have both maestro and cool down but long A and no spurt

You just know it will happen

Bitch pissing me the fuck off im glueing her immediately

[turbid tusk]

[kindred pagoda]

MY BEST POSSIBLE RUN RUINED BECAUSE I LOST URA FINALE SOMEHOW

SO FKING UNCLUCKY MAN

I GOT BLOCKED BY HISHI AMAZON ON OUTER FINAL SPURT

[turbid tusk]

wtf

[kindred pagoda]

FKING STUPID BITCH

[turbid tusk]

were you running end

[velvet glade]

i wish i was smart enough to save for ho-home specialist

[sharp kernel]

Halfway through and looks like this is what's gonna happen

The script is too predictable cygames

[velvet glade]

cinema

[pallid aurora]

quite literally hea

she got a 2head

[snow flower]

Pepeg wit

[sharp kernel]

Okay I got 3 heal skills spurt but no long S also already tanked a few mood downs and a night owl. Let's see how she turns out

[velvet glade]

sounds like a recipe for disaster

btw i am running a lvl 35 tosho sweep

f2p struggles 😓

[sharp kernel]

I do too but it's because I wasted 170 pulls on that twerp Narita taishin and didn't finish the job

[velvet glade]

sounds painful

[sharp kernel]

Ooop failed a 3% at summer camp

[velvet glade]

🦆 🚬

[sharp kernel]

Failed 2% from practice poor from that summer camp

I guess lucky I didn't get long S or I would've been more pissed

As it is I couldn't care less

Lol another 2% fail

This just wasn't meant to be

(Repeat that phrase for the next 12 runs)

[turbid tusk]

it's time to settle and go next

[oblique tree]

i was about to break my desk, getting +30 rest 4x in a row

[turbid tusk]

i like how the moment i give up on the mcqueen card everything goes better

that card sucks ass

[sharp kernel]

Failed ura finale again btw how is that even possible when all my nice natures passed

The 'nice' thing is being super unlucky doesn't really matter in this game it's the same as just normal unlucky

[kindred pagoda]

Smaru

[kindred pagoda]

Yes should have gone front

Actually the mcqueen propoganda is kinda misinfo for a bunch

Its compulsory for others but end doesn't need it

From what i noticed getting full orange on 1st year and no massive badluck gives you good highroll

My best run ruined tho.... Spring standard firm long s, end closer corner and spuet

It couldn't have been more perfect

[velvet glade]

btw i read in the document

that specialty prio on cards

is probably not just additive

and that kita black actually has 116 spe prio

[sharp kernel]

Mihono Bourbon race gear kinda 👀

[sharp kernel]

Good powercreep her ass old hag

[velvet glade]

[velvet glade]

now we save for kita rerun

hope its not too soon or too late

[tribal sigil]

i finally get her guys

[velvet glade]

any1 who has a doctor uma borrow?

[hollow wadi]

You mean Agnes?

Building for this CM is so fucking hard holy shit.

I don't think I'm gonna bother pushing for Long S.

[snow flower]

https://cdn.7tv.app/emote/01HM2JF9G800085YMV8XYNZ5Q9/3x.gif

[hollow wadi]

Part of me wonders if I went too much stamina, but I feel like debuffers/RNG may make it worth it

[velvet glade]

agnes yea

u do want 1200 speed but that uma is better than mine

[hollow wadi]

Sometimes I wonder if I set my expectations too high for other people in CMs based on room lobbies lol.

[sharp kernel]

kinda, I think my WR in the last CM was around 3x my WR in room lobbies

[hollow wadi]

I seldom ever win my room lobbies it feels like.

[sharp kernel]

it'll narrow down though, cos more and more casuals are getting pruned

[hollow wadi]

I think the next CM might be easier.

for casuals

I just need one more ace and I think I might be ok. Gonna run 2 ace 1 debuffer and try to sabotage other people's End Closers.

Pretty sure my NN can keep up long enough in 3200 to at least get the debuffs off.

She actually came 3-5th in a couple lobbies

[velvet glade]

very nice one

i feel like debuffs will be good

[hollow wadi]

People said they wouldn't I think because MM only works on Medium, but everything else still applies.

[velvet glade]

if i look at my own umas debuff will annihilate them

ye gold skills are just much more impactful

[hollow wadi]

I specifically made sure to grab End Closer debuffs. Couldn't get more for Pace.

[velvet glade]

but the stamina cap is so high rn

i dont see many ppl running 3 gold skills

recovery

in which case debuffs should be potent

[hollow wadi]

Am I crazy or is 2 gold skills enough with 1k stamina? My sims are showing better returns with 2 gold, 1k stam and 1200 speed vs. 2 gold, 1k speed, 1200 stam

I might still run 1200 stamina anyways, but the results are dramatically different

[oblique tree]

u can run either

[sharp kernel]

how about debuffs? but it's true i survived so far with 1000ish stam 2 heals

[velvet glade]

are u calculating debuffs

[oblique tree]

and its enough

[hollow wadi]

No debuffs no

[velvet glade]

well thats my point

[hollow wadi]

I have like 200-300 stam HP by the end

[oblique tree]

people saying 3 gold because of incase 1 of them did not activate

[sharp kernel]

not because i dont want 3 heals though

[velvet glade]

ye i just dont have swinging maestro

[hollow wadi]

So 3 gold in case 1 doesn't activate + debuffers

[velvet glade]

yep

[hollow wadi]

Same with 1200 stam

Ok fair enough

[velvet glade]

me for example i cant build a good ace

so ineed a good debuffer as a win con

[hollow wadi]

Unless you have full MLB and insane parents, getting a competitive Ace for this CM feels impossible.

[velvet glade]

ye if i had a p2w account

i wouldnt even bother with a debuffer

since its much easier to get stats and good skill

[hollow wadi]

Like it's taking me MULTIPLE runs not getting fucked by bullshit and I have just about everything but MLB Kitasan. Mine is 3LB and sometimes I borrow MLB, too.

[velvet glade]

slets say mlb kita is 30 speed per run

[hollow wadi]

Over 3LB?

[velvet glade]

that matters now

im just guessing

i just said btw

speciality doesnt work additive

most likely

[hollow wadi]

I just know that I'm close to maxxed and this shit is extremely difficult. Is next CM before the new scenario?

I might be ready early for Mile just by coincidence.

[velvet glade]

Specialty Priority increases how often the card will land on its preferred training. Specialty adds to the weight, while specialty from the uniques multiplies it as if a percent, the same way Friendship Bonus works. Each stat has a base weight of 100, and not appearing has a weight of 50. These are divided by the total to give the chance of appearing on each training, so 100/550 = 18.18% rainbow rate with 0 specialty. For Kitasan, she has 80 base, so 100 + 80 = 180, then she has unique specialty, so 180 * 1.2 = 216, which is the same as having 116 base. Her Speed appearance rate would be 216/666, or 32.4%. (Theoretically, slightly lower due to the chance of the training being full?)

while specialty from the uniques multiplies it as if a percent

[hollow wadi]

It's too early for this shit

[oblique tree]

that shit is too complicated

[velvet glade]

sorry

[oblique tree]

just do LB 3 = Usable

[velvet glade]

swipe = win basically

[oblique tree]

thats it

[velvet glade]

also true

[oblique tree]

no its next month

cm usually monthly

but we gotta wait for october event schedule

if there is only 1 cm throughout the month, then its confirm a monthly thing

but character banner still accelerated (?)

[hollow wadi]

Gold City next month

How good is this as a SS parent?

Pink sparks are kinda shit, but 3* Unique and decent whites right? Also 6* stam, 2* Power

[velvet glade]

im bad at making parents but for many ppl any SS thats decent does rn

[hollow wadi]

Are people mainly looking for blue sparks + unique?

[velvet glade]

yes

[hollow wadi]

Awesome. Will consider swapping to her after this CM.

[oblique tree]

wdym by ss parent

[velvet glade]

Seiun sky parent

[oblique tree]

also for cm u want the same pink spark on everyone

unless u want to change someone's affinity

like changing oguri's end closer from D to A

[oblique tree]

oh just her name

[velvet glade]

thats what i assume mbe its smth else

apparently seiun sky is pretty bad as a unit

seems strange to me cause her accel should be doubly strong on herself

but it becomes impossible to proc in a competitive environment

[oblique tree]

idk which competitive environment u mean

but until this day, seiun unique still used on every front runner

and front runner its not completely dead, u can still use the strategy

[velvet glade]

ye

as a unit tho

[oblique tree]

even for the new pvp, league of heroes

[hollow wadi]

Yeah SS as in the name. I meant as a parent

[hollow wadi]

Her scaling is kinda ass tbh. She has DOUBLE wit scaling

[velvet glade]

ahh 💀

[hollow wadi]

10% Stam 20% wit and one of her Gold skills is for Long.

She gets Tail Held High though so I guess that’s nice.

[velvet glade]

ye its just that to activate her unique

u need a lot of mid race velocity skills

as much as possible really

and she doesnt haave those

but if there is no other fronts she is an amazing unit basically

which might be in this cm?

[hollow wadi]

I was tempted to build a Front Runner since I have her as a parent for 3* unique

For this CM

But fuck this shit is so unbearable that sounds miserable

[velvet glade]

usually being a solo front runner is bad tho

[hollow wadi]

Why so?

[velvet glade]

only because her accel skill is so strong

cause u need to competitiveness

literally 2 fronts constantly try to overtake

and it raises speed

[hollow wadi]

Don’t you just need to be in first

[velvet glade]

that is for skill activations only

trust me on this arinad

[hollow wadi]

I’m just trying to understand

[velvet glade]

yy the info is prolly

https://docs.google.com/document/d/11X2P7pLuh-k9E7PhRiD20nDX22rNWtCpC1S4IMx_8pQ/edit?tab=t.0

in here somewhere

[hollow wadi]

You just need to be in first to activate the unique, so what do the other front runners do

I assume it’s an interaction

[velvet glade]

ye i will tell u another interaction

if the fron runner is super slow

like a hara urara front

and its the only front runner

she will slow down everyone

[hollow wadi]

Yo wtf. Is that because they stay at front for the first half or so?

[velvet glade]

making it so everyone saves worth a gold skill of stam

so u can build ur units with less stam and use this strat

[hollow wadi]

No one ever explained that for me earlier about Haru Front so thank you

[velvet glade]

idk if they actually keep in front i just read about this in the document

[hollow wadi]

Can I counter other people doing this?

[velvet glade]

this strat is completely ruined if theres other front runners tho

but theres other benefits to doing this idk exactly

[hollow wadi]

That may be enough reason for me to build a Front Runner actually

For this CM

How is Pace/Front/Debuffer?

[velvet glade]

i might seem like i know a lot but these are 2 facts i just picked up

[hollow wadi]

I know End Closer is super OP but I’d either have to drop my really well built Pace Chaser or the Debuffer with End Closer red skills

[velvet glade]

pace is kinda bad since it has a lower speed multiplier

and no good accel skills

my ace is a pace but

im trolling

[hollow wadi]

I can try to see if I can build any alternatives. I’ve seen multiple people do Haru front in room lobbies so I feel like I really should strongly consider making a Front Runner

[velvet glade]

u should go through the doc i just linked

and read under gemini cup section

[hollow wadi]

I feel like with a fairly strong Front, really good Ace, and a target debuffer for End Closers, I might have a real consistent chance

[velvet glade]

theres multiple tips there

[hollow wadi]

Thank you. I will

[sterile gate]

song = requested

[novel raptor]

can y'all please go to your respective facilities

[sterile gate]

[velvet glade]

this is bis actually ur lucky

[pallid aurora]

beats the 5 party I had on guts for 2 turns

[novel raptor]

not in my case

usually when this happens, i don't get many rainbow trainings

and it did

[velvet glade]

ok that is just superstition

mbe its true tho

[novel raptor]

no s long

another parent unit, surely

holy wit

el classico

[hard sorrel]

The mile CM is going to be RNG but for a different reason

Instead of it being RNG to win the race through recoveries

It's just going to be gambling because everyone has a chance to win

[novel raptor]

rng to proc skills mid race

[hard sorrel]

My setup is front/pace/end

the win rates are divided like 10/20/70?

front is lazy with a single front, but the game on long is simply rng

sometimes everyone gets blocked to shit in th back

its like also not a groundwork package

[velvet glade]

u will win for sure

[hard sorrel]

The front for me is to ensure oguri ult always hits

and just more chances at not getting rng fucked

[velvet glade]

having a good front kinda is not the smartest play for u

cause ur biggest opponent to win finals is the taishin girl

[hard sorrel]

Im not getting cheesed by urara

[velvet glade]

idk whats her name with gold spurt skill

[hard sorrel]

I dont think taishin is a threat

[velvet glade]

urara is there to cheese her

[hard sorrel]

or people are overvaluing her

if youve done some scrims

she gets blocked to shit

[velvet glade]

u should welcome urara's

well that is because SS wasnt released yet

so ppl only ran urara fronts

which block her recovery skill

with real fronts she doesnt get blocked

[hard sorrel]

the good taishins wont even take lion

[velvet glade]

idk mbe im overthinking it

[hard sorrel]

the issue is on the final leg

because nemesis sucks ass

all 3 golshis in the race

will be on the outside

[velvet glade]

i think room matches are a particularly bad example

[hard sorrel]

because anchors is dumb

[velvet glade]

because seiun wasnt released

[hard sorrel]

I also think people over value seiun

for this map

not in general

[velvet glade]

oh for sure but

anyone who wants to build a front will use her

and they will be very happy u are running a front

[hard sorrel]

its just not relevant because it hits too late

[velvet glade]

ye prolly true idk

cause a single front is bad

u need competition

[snow flower]

that's why you run 2 fronts

they boost each other

[velvet glade]

ic

makes sense

[snow flower]

ye

[velvet glade]

ull have a lot of work to do tho

if u wanna do that now

[snow flower]

yeah it's a lot of runs

[hard sorrel]

like on my mcqueen

its at max 1L

0.82L

[velvet glade]

since corner is kinda late

[hollow wadi]

Please stay out of my fucking lobby

[velvet glade]

ye LMAO

i was thinking the same

[hard sorrel]

its just too late, the graph is fucky because of the hill

[hollow wadi]

What was your deck

and blue sparks

please share

[hard sorrel]

Dont worry, its purely because I was lucky on SC banner and got her mlb in the spark

kitasan reroller

its like 17* stam inherits

so you can do 4/2 on golshi

[hollow wadi]

Bro Eishen? FUCK that's rng hell

I love Eishen but man she's so rng

[velvet glade]

he got mlb kita and mlb super creek

[hard sorrel]

its honestly such a diffence being able to borrow biko

[velvet glade]

tf u mean rng

he doesnt even need eishen

[hollow wadi]

I have both of those and those numbers are still really hard for me.

[hard sorrel]

for the other ones it has to be 3/3

[velvet glade]

you guys are insane

[hollow wadi]

It might be my blue sparks

LOOK WHAT DO YOU WANT ME TO DO

I GET 5 MOOD DOWNS A RUN

2x NIGHT OWL

[hard sorrel]

Yeah I think for this one its all about raw stattage

people are using like 5* parents

[velvet glade]

arinad if u got his deck

[hard sorrel]

but thats such a gamble

[velvet glade]

and u got at least one good borrow

[hollow wadi]

"We're Holding an Event!" -> "Hey Trainer I feel like shit today lol"

[velvet glade]

u will win this cm

[hard sorrel]

if you also havent been using it

the chronogenesis borrow library is the most complete

because its scraping everyone from the top 3k clubs

[hollow wadi]

I have MLB SC and 3LB Kitasan.

Also 3LB Satono

[hard sorrel]

I found this 8* spurt there

and I just needed to supply my own long + stam borrow

[hollow wadi]

Which Front Runner would you recommend if no Mihono? Mayano?

I guess I could do Maruzensky?

[hard sorrel]

Maru ult does nothing so no real benefit

Ideally it would be some suzuka or something that if it randomly hits does win

[hollow wadi]

I saw someone say Condor Ult is good for Front Runner but I thought that Unique sucked

Suzuka doesn't sound like a bad idea.

If Front Runner gets overtaken final corner do they just lose?

[hard sorrel]

yeah, the point people were saying before

by having a second front you hope they push eachother by overtaking

and the gap is too big to win from it

if you get overtaken at the end its gg

because its the spot where you are the weakest

[hollow wadi]

Thank you for sharing that 👀

[hard sorrel]

its why groundwork is very important on front

because you are trying hardest at the start, and if you get blocked because someone was faster

it cucks the lead you couldve made

but for this CM its rng anyways

[hollow wadi]

Thank you so much for giving an explanation in addition to an answer.

[hard sorrel]

I think its just better to have more shots at living

[hollow wadi]

I was wondering about Groundwork

I'll make sure I grab a parent for that too.

Probably gonna look for Spring Runner + Firm + Ground/extra

[hard sorrel]

It might be late now, but like for the mile CM itll be more important

[austere flicker]

What deck was this

[pallid aurora]

man I can't even hit that on mlb everything

[hard sorrel]

f2p btw, but again too I was one of the mass rerollers on kitasan

the original acct got lb1 and I was like yeah im not doing that

[pallid aurora]

closest I got to anything good and it was with the event card

don't look at my goldshits with any other combo

[velvet glade]

i am on that timeline u did do that

[hard sorrel]

Like I went into the banner like

Im ok with LB2

since selector on 0.5 + 1 lb break crystal

but LB1 is 2 of those crystals and fuck that, itll be longer

[velvet glade]

ye lb1 is awkward

i got lb1 tho

[hard sorrel]

its like a pull on rerun angle but thats annoying on budgeting

[hard sorrel]

Idk ive also seen some people get their best with aoi card, I think MLB biko is just so good though if you have MLB SC and Kita

[snow flower]

lacking wit and speed

oh well

[hollow wadi]

3/3 seems to be the best for getting really high stam

5* speed blue, 2* speed power, 9* stam

3LB acquired

Nevermind 2LB

[novel raptor]

time to gamble and use 4 speed 2 stam

[hollow wadi]

Cursed Power

Wit probably makes her unusable sadly

[novel raptor]

if he got the end closer savvy skill it would make up for it

[hollow wadi]

She doesn't look TOO bad though if you literally had nothing else.

[novel raptor]

wajaja

don't worry deemee it's still 50/50

[hollow wadi]

Oh I read the Wit on the wrong Goldship

[novel raptor]

[kindred pagoda]

Thats not true ss is fine as a unit, she is easy to train and good pot skills

[kindred pagoda]

Fronts need high wit because alot of front mechanic (overtake) is a wit check, almost all primary front runners have wit bonus like marzuensky and bakushin

[velvet glade]

i trust the guidemaker over u outi

[novel raptor]

[misty venture]

forsen

[novel raptor]

get to grinding weebo and make that 9* pow 9* mile 9* groundwork so that i don't have to

[kindred pagoda]

This one is a bad borrow, its very important for the parent to have the pink spark you wat, also spurt as well, parentd matter much more then gp,

[velvet glade]

outi can i have ur friend code

owo

[hard sorrel]

I mean its how I trained my horse

I got like 50/50 on long S because its double circle affinity

saw no issues

[velvet glade]

ye if its also double circle

its a goated parent for u

but first gen parents have much more impact than 2nd

[hard sorrel]

its half but you have 2 times the gps than parents

[kindred pagoda]

You got super lucky then i was also using this one but the results were bad so i switched to a better option

[hard sorrel]

I mean you say that but you also spent like what

[kindred pagoda]

I dont have a good borrow

[hard sorrel]

1 week and a half complaining about not brining over spurt

[velvet glade]

if any1 will get a cracked borrow

at some point

its u outi

[hard sorrel]

again it might not have the right affinity

[kindred pagoda]

Well those spurt runs i used this borrow for long S and spurt

I got very few long S

[velvet glade]

but i see how it is

im not cool enough

[hard sorrel]

again it was also paired with my 5* long 2* turf

but like thats how it works

[kindred pagoda]

Are you asking the id of what i borrow?

[velvet glade]

no urs

🫵

[kindred pagoda]

Let me show my one to you then

[kindred pagoda]

This was my best option to maximise long S

[hard sorrel]

was all I needed to hit the golshi I hit

[kindred pagoda]

Out of the countless runs i did

[hard sorrel]

the sunny days one isnt even that much worse

[kindred pagoda]

The sunny day ones is gonna beat most people

Like my best run had less then 600 power

Because of that it lost ura finale

[hard sorrel]

I hit it within 4

[kindred pagoda]

Have 1200 speed is more imp then stam, too much stam but less top speed is not worth it and after that it's power diff

[hard sorrel]

3/4 long S

3/4 spurt inherits

[kindred pagoda]

What do you mean by 3/4

[hard sorrel]

literally all the golships I trained for this CM

[hollow wadi]

How strong are uphill/downhill skills

I must know.

[cosmic pecan]

triple gold recovery is kinda useless there unless you had no better yellows

[hollow wadi]

Literally at the end of an insane run. How good are they for CM

[cosmic pecan]

1145 is enough to clear with just 1 proc iirc

[kindred pagoda]

Your just lucky

[hard sorrel]

I couldve taken curva but the point is this CM is all RNG

I would rather my golshi have lower highs

[cosmic pecan]

highlander sucks

[hard sorrel]

but still live every time

[cosmic pecan]

allegedly BOFA is better than go home specialist

[hard sorrel]

this golshi even dies sometimes

350 wit is nothing

[kindred pagoda]

No bofa is inconsistent

[hollow wadi]

thank you. Will probably ignore them then

[cosmic pecan]

thats what i thought

[kindred pagoda]

You can insta proc bofa out of the gate

[hard sorrel]

compared to 450 last time and even then people didnt hit 2 recoveries last time

[cosmic pecan]

some guy was claiming the chance of go home procing at bad time is higher than bofa

that doesnt sound right to me

but idk

cuz the downhills should all be third quarter

[hollow wadi]

[dreamy ridge]

@hollow wadi has leveled up! (5 ➜ 6)

[kindred pagoda]

Why is S on medium

[hollow wadi]

Bro idk

Just rolled it

This was meant to be a parent run lmao

[kindred pagoda]

If its parent dont buy uma signatures

Only buy stuff that can generate a spark

[hollow wadi]

It was originally going to be a parent run until I got these rolls is what I meant lol

I got the inherits I want mostly on the grandparents. Worst case I'll make another but I'm glad how nice she turned out. Might try her for the CMs too.

[kindred pagoda]

Too low speed and power

[snow flower]

first parent has 6* long and second has 7* and still can't get S long

[novel raptor]

wajaja

[kindred pagoda]

My parents for cm2 ace have 50% to get long S and spurt pr inspiration

[velvet glade]

they better

u came very well prepared

[hollow wadi]

No Groundwork or Focus but I feel like this is a start.

Front Runner for counter to Haru.

[hard sorrel]

I just did some lobbies with people with fronts

and you can leech off people trying to make seiun work

[misty venture]

I haven't got a good goldship

[hard sorrel]

subpar seiuns will sling shot your front sometimes

[kindred pagoda]

The only thing i learned this cm is even if you do everything correctly if rng doesn't want you to progress then no matter time or preparation it doesnt matter

I learned it the hard way

[velvet glade]

just like me trying to get ur friend code

[kindred pagoda]

Todays the first day you asked for it

288466435990

Here you go

[hollow wadi]

Next CM will be better at least

This dude brought his debuffer Nice Nature from last CM to this room lobby

[kindred pagoda]

I wanted to daiwa next cm but no seiun, i could borrow and prepare a front daiwa with mayano but idk who's good for 3rd slot

[kindred pagoda]

End closer debuff modcheck

[hollow wadi]

I don't think debuffs will matter as much next CM?

[hollow wadi]

exactly lmao. They're not even gonna be in range for ASE I'm pretty sure

[kindred pagoda]

Idk i have heard of blockushin but idk how it works

[kindred pagoda]

Ase does work if haru front only

But that dependance on another uma is what makes it nad

[hollow wadi]

I'd figure with that stamina they won't be in range

Like they have no gold stamina recovery for 3200 and 460 stam lmao... they're dead by halfway probably

[kindred pagoda]

It casues more blockage

Allowing ase to work

[velvet glade]

https://tenor.com/view/i-found-treasure-indiana-jones-harrison-ford-indiana-jones-the-dial-of-destiny-i-found-something-gif-16125889605817322939

i am betting on u getting something crazy

[kindred pagoda]

I hope

I dont even know what ill do

[hollow wadi]

If it makes you feel better, my runs yesterday were straight fucking miserable. I'm not kidding I got 3-5 mood downs every single run for about 5 runs and I was literally losing my mind. Today, my runs have been great. Sometimes we just have shitty luck. You have a few days until CM so you got this.

[kindred pagoda]

I lost ura finale on my most perfect inspiration and highest stat run golshi ace today it never gets better

[velvet glade]

based got a spot

lacari's guild

quick quick quick

[hollow wadi]

That does, but you've got this I believe.

[velvet glade]

aura profile

[kindred pagoda]

Ill go daiwa next cm thats for sure

[hollow wadi]

I don't know if running a debuffer is smart if I'm the only person in the lobby with one. I might just go Front/Pacer/End.

Feels like I come up short to lacking my own End Closer sometimes.

[verbal patio]

[snow flower]

2 borrows runs dead instantly

this game

[velvet glade]

so agnes unique

doesnt trigger if ur first place

thats what order 3 means right

[hard sorrel]

yes

its why I was also running her with a front

because you need people in front for it

[velvet glade]

good to know 😅

so this unique stam recovery skill is useless

and the char is bricked

[rigid bear]

-180 pts

[velvet glade]

[hard sorrel]

I wouldnt put too much stock in inherited stam uniques either

its just equivalent to a white recovery

for more SP

[velvet glade]

not what my guide told me

man i wish i had mlb kita or super creek

[velvet glade]

so i need super creek

ye combat lemme find where i found the misinfo then

[hard sorrel]

idk like the global ref doc seems to leave out some info from the full jp one

[velvet glade]

lilry

if i hadnt read this i couldve had a very good seiun

[hard sorrel]

I think its just saying the original unique skill

which it is

its just inheriting cuts it

[velvet glade]

ye but who

is gonna run agnes

i assumed its only talking about inherit

[hard sorrel]

I was but yeah she doesnt have win cons, I think if you were like super poverty shes one of the better options

But yeah I replaced her for oguri cap

because theres no point in using an ace that never wins

[velvet glade]

i am super poverty but

dont have her 3 star

[hard sorrel]

its just the penalty they slap on when inheriting ults

[velvet glade]

ye i read that bit

[hard sorrel]

its why golshis is also so bad, it gets super neutered

[velvet glade]

goldshis is still p good i think

since its so long

its the double skills that get really neutered

as in accel and speed

[hard sorrel]

its just so much more ass to being going from 0.25 to 0.05

[velvet glade]

oh ye

that is neutered

her base speed is low because its so long ig

that makes sense

[hard sorrel]

it just activates at one of the best times, but yeah if it was usuable i think taishins would be so much better

[velvet glade]

it would still be good for a front runner but wont trigger :>

[hard sorrel]

because it sets you up so nicely

to not be in 9th before the final leg

[velvet glade]

idk what taishins is

[hard sorrel]

you basically need to be 8, 7, 6 or 5

and overtaking someone on the final corner

but the issue is

all the golshis are ahead of you

because anchor

the outside is fucked

and the inside is pacers/fronts

[velvet glade]

i assume they mean a different super creek

[hard sorrel]

fantasy SC

actually yeah

I think that is a mistake

its fantasy GW

[velvet glade]

lacari will def swipe for her

[hard sorrel]

shes rping a healer so all her skills are heals

[velvet glade]

broken in a marathon

oh the poverty

[hard sorrel]

ah they buffed it on JP

[velvet glade]

interesting

mbe its worded wrong in gametora and actually that strong?

that could save me

order 2 is a lot better too

[hard sorrel]

I think it might be actually just buffed later? but tbh its such a pain in the ass looking up when things change

I still cant figure out when they buff bofa and cooldown

[velvet glade]

ye luckily @turbid tusk exists

and hes literally a walking fountain of uma musume knowledge

[velvet glade]

ive done some brainstorming

front runner super creek

https://tenor.com/view/psychic-third-eye-enlightenment-telepathy-gif-22477198

[errant basin]

i have mlb oguri on support for next cm for the end closer/ late surger gamblers

[turbid tusk]

ye eventually they get buffed

i think first anni is when a lot of buffs take place for skills

[hollow wadi]

Holy based - Someone showed up with an Ace NN to my CM lobby

[turbid tusk]

the devs make it a pain in the ass to find when the changes happened though

[kindred pagoda]

I believe an update also buffs a bunch of the shitty 0.9 seconds skills duration

And also of jammed skills get extra functionality

[proper nimbus]

I think super creeks needs a buff before its good

[kindred pagoda]

Sc suffers the same problem summer maru does their card version is simply too good

[snow flower]

skipping summer maru then

accel. schedule doesn't help

[kindred pagoda]

For uma banners going all out can be a decent gamble but supports card is pity must

So im gonna keep pulling until seiun is up

For daiwa front i need her

[snow flower]

I was gonna skip seiun as well but I watched some vids and learned how good she actually is

She is THE parent of parents

[spare storm]

yeah

thats why theres a saying

"This uma is really good, because its not seiun sky"

that way you can have seiun sky as a grandparent to inherit

[quartz coral]

if you don't get seiun sky you are going to be dependent on borrows forever if you want to run front or quirky aim for 1 paces. Her ult is prime for most races. summer mazu may be the better actual ace but seiun is by far the better long term account pick

[snow flower]

yeah if you're looking to play this game long term you basically just want to get your own seiun

[cosmic pecan]

i mean relying on loaners is probably fine if we had the 50 borrow day 1

unless you were gonna do 51 runs a day

[snow flower]

even then who can do 50 runs a day anyway

will the auto training even reduce the time to train horses by a huge amount?

[spare storm]

uhh its not a real sweep

where its instant

its more like autoplay

https://www.reddit.com/r/gachagaming/comments/1ivkbuw/uma_musume_announces_a_new_automatic_training/

but they also have skip for already seen events

im not sure if thats the same one that we have in global

i think its different

cause in that video above

after she does the training, it went straight into stat increase from event

instead of yap yap yap, stat increase

so i would assume it would go from

20m runs to 15m runs

if you are locked in, it could go lower

[snow flower]

not bad

[spare storm]

but 4th anniversary for JP

[snow flower]

ye

[spare storm]

so in 3 years time for us

[snow flower]

lmao

[spare storm]

[snow flower]

we are not getting that anytime soon\

[spare storm]

nope unless cygaymes actually had a brain

which they don't

[sharp kernel]

Best keep your expectations low yep

Japanese businessmen

[snow flower]

yep played some of their games

[cosmic pecan]

it wont help that much for mant anyways

since you need to spam races

[snow flower]

basically they are Japanese mihoyo

[cosmic pecan]

which means you gotta click race and click view results and click back to main

[snow flower]

[cosmic pecan]

right now you do what

at most 18 races

mant is like 24-30

[snow flower]

so mant is a lot longer

[cosmic pecan]

manually doing a mant run is legit like

half hour

[snow flower]

yeah

[cosmic pecan]

which is how long ura took when you are like

[snow flower]

basically x2 duration of a URA run

[cosmic pecan]

first learning

ura i think if you have like

an easy horse

you can squeeze it in like a bit over 10

[cosmic pecan]

its why we need both guided and spark rerolling

like immediately

spark rerolling just "doubles" your farming speed

[spare storm]

the autoplay is only for 2 scenarios from what that reddit post said

[cosmic pecan]

4x if you are willing to pay carats after first refresh

[spare storm]

URA

im not sure what the other is

scenario 2?

[cosmic pecan]

probably scenario 2

[spare storm]

yeah

mant is scenario 3?

i think

[cosmic pecan]

yeah it should be 3

[oblique tree]

yes

[sharp kernel]

Mihoyo is much more proactive than them I think they just don't want to make anything but gacha

[quartz coral]

if they had a brain they would get us qol to calm the huge turn over this game has right now

[spare storm]

yeah they really need to drop the qol cause the accelerated schedule is really burning a lot of whales out

[sharp kernel]

6 weeks turnaround time for a version is insane

[spare storm]

or the whales can use the auto play script

[cosmic pecan]

its not whales

its burning everyone out

[sharp kernel]

but everyone

[cosmic pecan]

spark farming is not fun or engaging

its boring as fuck

[spare storm]

i mean yeah, everyone

but whales are definitely MORE important than f2p

from a business view

you have to keep the whales happy or 📉

[cosmic pecan]

making a bot would take a lot of work or else someone would have one made i think

[spare storm]

there are auto play scripts

i did a quick search a few days back when it was mentioned here

was curious

[cosmic pecan]

yeah but is it like smart or is it just picking like

top option

[spare storm]

and i think i found 2? chinese ones

and 1 english one

5 minute search

it looks through all the training options, checks if you are safe to train (less than 10%?), finds which one has the most rainbows first, supports next, g1 races

infirmary

mood

i didnt look too into it

but i would assume you can put in stat lines?

[sharp kernel]

I dare say if we get auto farming early the other qols are relatively less important

[quartz coral]

they actually make mihoyo look good atleast mihoyo is quick to give compensation when they fuck up

[sharp kernel]

Idk if KR or TW got it already though

[oblique tree]

i dont think so

cause that auto career is just recently added on jp

[spare storm]

and probably put which top or bottom option you want for specific support cards

[oblique tree]

like 4th anniv

6 months ago since right now its already 4.5 anniv

[sharp kernel]

Well they did promise here

That's I wonder if they have it in other servers too

[cosmic pecan]

I dont get what use auto is for

If its only scenario 1 and 2

[oblique tree]

to do dailies

and farm spark faster

[cosmic pecan]

And JP is on fucking like 10th or 11th

Theres no way scenario 1 or 2 horses will have the sparks of a scenario 10 no

[oblique tree]

no u have to redo them

[cosmic pecan]

When parents can hit 20* distance

[oblique tree]

the only different is green spark cause of new uma

[cosmic pecan]

Yeah so what good is guided for spark farming

[oblique tree]

and white spark from new support card or scenario skills

[hard sorrel]

I mean even in MANT

[oblique tree]

to spark farm

[hard sorrel]

you will likely do some URA

MANT runs are literally 1 hour

[spare storm]

you have autistic players

[cosmic pecan]

Sure if the parent power levels are the same in mant

[spare storm]

and you have people who have jobs

jobbers will probably just do URA

for their dailies

[cosmic pecan]

But the power cap in scenario 10

Has to be way too big

[oblique tree]

its still 1 - 3star spark

[cosmic pecan]

For it to be worth autoing ura

[oblique tree]

the only thing changes is that now u have higher chance to hit them, since the cap is getting bigger

u see less 1-2star spark with it

2k cap speed, 1,5k cap on everything

wait nvm 1,3k on guts and wisdom

[cosmic pecan]

are all the other stat/distance bonuses not from your blues

is everything from whites?

[oblique tree]

wdym

[cosmic pecan]

my question is like

[oblique tree]

g1 spark for stats ?

[cosmic pecan]

are the parents 10x stronger

because of the new cards

or something

or is it because of the scenario

idk how it works but i know you can basically guarantee S distance on JP

because a single parent

can get 20 stars

in distance

[oblique tree]

i mean blue and pink spark has no changes, its still 1-3star spark

green change because of new uma

[cosmic pecan]

so is that ceiling from the new scenario or the new cards or something

[oblique tree]

white changes because of new support card and scenario skills

there is definitely different formula for spark

[sharp kernel]

Am I right in saying spark farming doesn't change much between scenarios but to hit stats ceiling you have to do the latest?

[oblique tree]

stats ceiling for aces yeah

or just training uma in general

[cosmic pecan]

im guessing you can get distance from whites then

[hard sorrel]

The way it works

[cosmic pecan]

im looking at random jp horse on the database

[sharp kernel]

LookUp

[hard sorrel]

you get higher chance at passing stuff

[spare storm]

weakest umas on the database

[hard sorrel]

if your parents/gp have the same sparks

so as time goes on

[cosmic pecan]

yeah i know that part

[spare storm]

when the database couldnt even fit it in

[hard sorrel]

you will naturally get shopping lists

[sharp kernel]

It's still maruzensky

Granny is immortal

[hard sorrel]

nothing else is changed like per scenario

except the special scenario spark

[oblique tree]

u have to look up what the white spark gives

[hard sorrel]

like URA right now

[sharp kernel]

So basically, can we get those amounts of whites by doing scenario 1/2 in JP?

Because if not then the auto is close to useless if you're not a jobber

[oblique tree]

i dont think u can get distance from white

cause blue and pink spark still exist

[sharp kernel]

I think that's the crux of the question

Sorry I rephrased a bit

[oblique tree]

no since new scenario gives some skills

and there is awakening skills aswell

[novel raptor]

no long

[hard sorrel]

Each scenario has their own spark like URA does, that is whatll change if you do other scenarios

• specific bonuses per secnario

like in MANT I think its a bonus for doing 25+ races?

but like the chances at sparks fundementally stays the same

[oblique tree]

yeah

or 30

[hard sorrel]

like if you get 2k speed

[oblique tree]

iirc u need to at least do 27 races per uma

[hard sorrel]

you still are rolling the 1100+ chance

you arent rolling a super chance at a 3*

its URA + TTS

TTS being like the one before the current scenario?

and I think dyi is also added now

the current scenario

[oblique tree]

i still dont see why getting early auto-career is bad

cause even if we dont get it every new scenario u always want to train there

while using parent from previous scenario, and re looping it again with the new scenario

its just that with auto-career it became faster

[hard sorrel]

its not that its bad they just are saying its useless but like you will not be doing constant MANT runs

its absolutely ass

[oblique tree]

u mean optimal MANT run ?

[hard sorrel]

Yes

every fucking race

that small loading hang

40 times

[oblique tree]

the loading is longer if ur on phone

thats what i experience 3 years ago

playing on dusty ass phone, each run took like 45mnt

from 90% battery to 40% in 1 run

[snow flower]

[hard sorrel]

if you are making like real umas for TT and CM, you ofc will be doing the latest scenario

but if you just want to gun out dailies you will still be making decent parents

through auto

[snow flower]

for me right now on global at least, the game is faster on phone compared to pc

[oblique tree]

i might need a new phone