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#Umamusume: Pretty Derby
pallid aurora
novel raptor
as long as they're not running the same strategy yeah probably
turbid tusk
highest likelihood cause uma musume is a bullshit rng game
sometimes two of your aces don't proc accels or stamina skills and you lose 
novel raptor
that's a viable choice
turbid tusk
make a giga long condor for next cm
pallid aurora
if I don't get a decent ish one then I'll just run my ass wonder
sharp kernel
Gonna start a long parent project for next cm I guess
turbid tusk
make sure to farm straightaway spurt spark
it's the only important accel skill
the rest will be velocity skills
and stam
sharp kernel
nah narita taishin
Should've spent that 70 usd to secure her 
But fuck it
Fuck cygames and jesus that whispered temptations
turbid tusk
are you too poor for higher potental
oblique tree
machico
snow flower
that I did not
oblique tree
turbid tusk
dreamy ridgeBOT
@turbid tusk has leveled up! (75 โ 76)
snow flower
bunch of itasha during the event as well
astral pasture
I like that I can get more copies of super creek but unless it's MLB it wouldn't make that much difference
I guess LB2 Creek gains friendship faster
LB2 Kitasan and Creek like I'm cursed
I can only get up to LB2
astral pasture
so u just borrow kitasan mlb
already doing this
kinda wish I have MLB Kitasan
she's much more universal than creek
for every length
like that card is gonna be there until Almond eye support card
sharp kernel
kinda wish I have MLB Kitasan
Weren't you rerolling?
astral pasture
I was
I didn't get any pass LB2
granted I only did it 5 hrs a day every weekend when the banner was up
I rerolled 200+ times nothing pass LB2
I'm just cursed
sharp kernel
turbid tusk
astral pasture
NGL I'm still kinda salty about it but it's gacha
got tilted when I got MLB Satono on one of my rerolls
kindred pagoda
You do realize only the stam debuff thats fov depended is all seeing eyes and its white version so only for NN late suger savy is very good all the other debuffs jusy debuff if they proc their condition no fov matters
It only effects all seeing eyes not all debuffs
spare storm
yeah we literally talked about it after that picture
but he still made a better grass wonder cause he got more debuffs
novel raptor
Teio VA was in my local mall yesterday
i went there
didn't someone send the announcement here?
kindred pagoda
But you need cali deck and good rng, i have still not gotten a good ace 
turbid tusk
you should've swiped more to mlb all of them 
novel raptor
i did
and i only got lb2 suzuka
i just got tissue and gold inspiration
another glue run
spare storm
you do what you want to do
this is the first CM
and guess what
theres more to come
so dont burn out
pallid aurora
spare storm
pallid aurora
absolutely zero fucking skills but finally a 9* speed and its condor 
my goat
cosmic pecan
cant wait for the powercreep thats coming
so getting fucking s distance isnt a complete fucking crapshoot
quartz coral
so dont burn out
i looked at my fan farm since going all in on this event 
cold crag
astral pasture
sharp kernel
I'd be like that too running beside kitasans pits all day
cosmic pecan
i gave up
just waiting for mant
cap on all stats
guaranteed s distance
omega parents with 20* distance
cut away the rng layers by like half at least
novel raptor
i would calculate perfectly that by the end of URA i'll get 1200 speed then the game says "no rainbows for you in URA"
misty venture
quartz coral
cramming paid off i got a better not stupid gold shi
quartz coral
poor practice the whole last year cause i was cutting it close
reef robin
when do you stop running cards for pto and thh
on parents or ace
and why do you push affinity with the director and the reporter
cosmic pecan
reporter gives extra stats for the main stat of that training
i think its +5 if your aff is high enouhg
you need director at green minimum for fan fest
to upgrade ultimate
also the +10 to all for orange +15 to all for max at end
kindred pagoda
Value speed and stam department more then wit, reason your not hitting stat check is raising wits, if you ever get a 2 speed or stam vs 2 wit always go speed stam, imo higher department level matters more then early friendship, else your senior year gets griefed, the problem with this approach is you wont have 40p wit
cosmic pecan
1100 850 is decent stats
its that he has no skills
350 v 400 wit i think it at most 5% more proc rate
but you could squeeze in more skills instead of the 5%
thats the way i think about it at least
rigid bear
are you too poor for higher potental <:Deadge:1024899449841000500>
u mean my grass wonder? yes ๐
kindred pagoda
Races are very rng, like i lost a race with 2x stats compared to highest npc, because she got late start and was on the outer most post, she even got the outermost post ptsd debuff skill
novel raptor
i already have 1050 speed before april senior year and my wit facility is only lv2. so i didn't train speed all the way to URA. if you really wanna minmax you gotta take the risk and that's what i did
and i already have an ace oguri
i'm just trying to make a better one
novel raptor
well that's just how the game works
reef robin
reporter gives extra stats for the main stat of that training
oic
kindred pagoda
So no cm stuff added looks like the registration thing comes after 7 hours
reef robin
what about PTO and THH, when do I swap back in SC for swinging
kindred pagoda
what about PTO and THH, when do I swap back in SC for swinging
Imo if your farming skills left handed and spring runners are better must priorities as they are guaranteed and gives you speed advantage over cap compared to others
reef robin
kindred pagoda
If your still looping spring+left is better then mid race combo because its guaranteed and allows you to speed diff others
Spring runner can be gotten from winning tazakura kinen, tenno sho spring spark and mcqueen
Left from suzuka card (only 1 white spark for it)
Also their better if you have 2 accel skills as youll reach your highest top speed first
rigid bear
for power cards who do i level biwa or helios
tryna see if i can cross train stam
with borrowed max vodka
astral pasture
dusk rapids
obsidian jungle
kindred pagoda
Both are equally good, stats better for biwa but - energy chan event, daiktau is high mood emphasis but good card
kindred pagoda
helios doesnt have train effect other then that everything is good
when will it end 
kindred pagoda
after so long i finally got it
that long A is kinda necessary to get 1st on arima with debuff deck
now only grass and daiwa left
kindred pagoda
GUys i have a question other then FOV whats the disadvantage of running my agnes on end closer F style ?
earnest gust
Tell lacari to 1v1 sodapoppin. He's playing uma
And tell soda is max lb super creek or gg
iron solar
https://imgur.com/TH6S7an https://imgur.com/WQ3DTw2 https://imgur.com/WeJL6QU This should be good for Taurus Cup, right?
turbid tusk
gonna need to get lucky or your nice nature murders the other horses
your top speed is pretty low but you'll tank the debuffs
iron solar
That's the goal, overcompensate for stamina and just tank the debuffs
Could use these instead
This Teio is a freak
turbid tusk
technically he's right besides the gold skill
earnest gust
Yep
kindred pagoda
https://imgur.com/TH6S7an https://imgur.com/WQ3DTw2 https://imgur.com/WeJL6QU Th...
Too much stam need max speed, if possible medium S and shooting fr victory
Rice needs accel skill and the rest same stuff as golshi
iron solar
You gotta work with what you got
I don't have any of the parent horses for the cup rn
kindred pagoda
https://imgur.com/TH6S7an https://imgur.com/WQ3DTw2 https://imgur.com/WeJL6QU Th...
This a good stam hunter nn but late surger savy is slightly important for all seeing eyes
kindred pagoda
I don't have any of the parent horses for the cup rn
Im also takui marz less
turbid tusk
it's not that important right now cause you don't have many aces you want to gimp other nice natures for
when you get xmas oguri or rickey you'll want late surger savvy more
kindred pagoda
Lacking both accel parents= less aces priority
turbid tusk
cause those aces are worth betting on
edgy apex
Lacari really said bujin is bad
lac is a gacha guy surely he will give me good advice
turbid tusk
holy shit how many tazunas did soda hit
kindred pagoda
When has lac played uma last time
turbid tusk
edgy apex
it's fine because money does not matter for him
kindred pagoda
Also wasnt soda vibe coding it caught me off guard on recommendations
earnest gust
Why does soda wants to play uma anyways? I heard soda mention ludwig
kindred pagoda
Does he know how the game works or he is brute forcing with wallet
edgy apex
he has done nothing but pull so far
he doesn't even know what the support cards do lol
iron solar
He's pulled a lot of garbage
Out of the good he's pulled Fine Motion, Seiun Sky, Super Creek
earnest gust
Why does lacari use nishino flower?
turbid tusk
for fun player
turbid tusk
soda got like 3 super creeks in 40 when he didn't need it
sterile gate
lac plays offstream. he just dsnt stream it
last i checked at least
idk how active he is in terms of daily/wkly fan count
timid portal
hes scared of oms and getting gapped by f2p
sterile gate
verbal patio
edgy apex
lac doesn't get that he only cares about numerical advantage lol
turbid tusk
turbid tusk
where'd lacari get the idea that front's good right now
turbid tusk
actual for fun player
turbid tusk
pace chasers are op though
velvet glade
does ace mean "not a support"?
turbid tusk
ace means you're using it to win
velvet glade
ok ty
timid portal
ace is your anchor
misty venture
spare storm
Ace is the guy from one piece
velvet glade
love that show
verbal patio
players who built B+ umas for open league for some reason
turbid tusk
it was always B and lower
also i'm still so fucking upset my teio broke her legs on her failed training
if she had that 80+ more stamina she would've been so strong
verbal patio
it was always B and lower
ik for some reason people keep thinking it's B+
turbid tusk
she keeps getting gassed cause her left handed and velocity up skills are too much speed
verbal patio
like i get the under A if they're from JP, but both gametoro and the reference state it's B for the first one 
turbid tusk
quartz coral
so you have to sign up right now or can you stall?
verbal patio
so you have to sign up right now or can you stall?
i think it still official starts 3 days from now
just registration period
for which league u want to join
quartz coral
need a better nature fuck everything else but pace gotta die
haughty estuary
register now or your account deletes
turbid tusk
permanently bricked
haughty estuary
are most of you going Graded?
pallid aurora
imma send it
haughty estuary
yeah
pallid aurora
my aces are mid at best
haughty estuary
yeah idk if mine are any good, not compared to some of the stuff I've seen anyway
Taurus Cup Entry Tickets? 
haughty estuary
Yeah basically
misty venture
I gonna do grade
not gonna try farming noobs in intermidate
my medium team
some of them long
well I hope rng favor me
I gonna build evil nature
quartz coral
my evil nature wasn't evil enough pace living and blasting my ass
quartz coral
most of the gold ships died though
spare storm
you can easily get A+ umas by waiting for the next careers
turbid tusk
round 1 you're probably not going to match up with people that have med S
misty venture
ok
austere flicker
Are we supposed to go to the B or lower or the open one
spare storm
open for more carats
turbid tusk
graded
verbal patio
im not a hater, im a generational despiser, I don't just hate your goldship, I want her taking six dominator debuffs, murmurs, and all-seeing eyes. I want her to die before the gate even opens. I want none of her skills to activate. I hate her parents, I wish they were 1* guts, 1* long, and 1* unique with zero white skills. I wish their grandparents the same fate, and their great grandparents. I hope that in her ace run, she got zero rainbows. I hope she got no hints, and didn't hit the med S spark. I want her to hit a 1% failure rate and every mood down in the book. I want every bad condition on her. Slacker, Night Owl, you name it, she has it. I want her to lose all her races, and even then, I wouldn't hope, but PRAY, that something worse has happened.
spare storm
i mean graded
turbid tusk
the one that doesn't say B or lower
spare storm
not open
verbal patio
spare storm
the one that isnt B
yeah
its weird cause it says graded
but its no grade
unless they are talking about graded for something else?
Open league = has a grade
turbid tusk
graded are a higher tier of race
turbid tusk
than open
austere flicker
Also consensus is 2 ace, 1 debuffer?
turbid tusk
there's open and then there's grades 3-2-1
spare storm
that makes more sense then
turbid tusk
ye
austere flicker
I haven't farmed any nice natures 
turbid tusk
there's preop, open, graded
spare storm
cause i keep thinking it was the grade of the uma
turbid tusk
it's the tier of the race
with g1s being the most prestigious
people recommend debuffers cause they're easier to make but aces are better
spare storm
your 3 dailies should be used on ace
cause ace wins you the game
debuffers are just there to help, they wont ever win the race
There are multiple strats you can go
but 2 aces 1 debuffer is probably the easiest
theres 3 groundwork ace strat too
verbal patio
im trying to build a tachyon as a backup third ace
spare storm
where all 3 fight for first place and cause they are all fighting for first place, you will make distance super quick
but its really hard cause you need 3 aces that are really strong
to force them to fight for position 1
theres also 2 debuffer 1 ace
kindred pagoda
i was so close to greatness but it only led me to the path of glue
spare storm
thats good when there are umas that are so good that they can win by themselves
verbal patio
2 debuffer 1 ace works really well mainly at the start imo
spare storm
right now there isnt really an uma thats so good that they can win by themselves
kindred pagoda
im done for today raised 10 glue umas today
turbid tusk
it's all about whether the skills proc for your aces or not so the more aces the higher the odds rn
can't bank it on any of the horses we have rn
spare storm
yeah thats why 2 aces 1 debuffer is probably the safest and easiest option
aces are so hard to make
spare storm
too much rng
blissful vessel
why is soda playing uma
verbal patio
is the more stam worth on the left worth to trade over the wit on the right?
verbal patio
the sim doesn't account for wit tho right? and excess stam?
spare storm
the only thing the simulator doesnt account for is
its only a 1v1 and skills are 100% proc rate
its up to you
they both look kinda similar
the 475 wit one has probably around 81% chance of procing skills
388 wit has probably like 76% chance of procing skills
kindred pagoda
is the more stam worth on the left worth to trade over the wit on the right?
Left is because more speed from handed
After the accel skills and medium S its the spring runner and left handed diff
The mid race combo only matters after this
turbid tusk
is the more stam worth on the left worth to trade over the wit on the right?
ye left is way better
the wit increases your proc chance by like 3%
actually if your tail combo procs you might win
but there's also a chance you die to murmur
spare storm
the difference is so small
verbal patio
with lone wolf, without, just feel like yeah consistency might win?
spare storm
that anything can happen
verbal patio
it's not that big
turbid tusk
the main thing is tail combo will get you murdered by murmur
spare storm
unlikely that you will get lone wolf cause most evil natures will take lone wolf to counter it
but who knows, you might get lucky and not have anyone take lone wolf
kindred pagoda
with lone wolf, without, just feel like yeah consistency might win?
Your 2nd has firm not left handed
turbid tusk
while left handed shouldn't
dusk rapids
verbal patio
Your 2nd has firm not left handed
yeah it does have here
i just removed lone wolf
it's both a pic of uma 1
kindred pagoda
Their same pic i got 
turbid tusk
should use left cause of consistency
kindred pagoda
Left is guaranteed
turbid tusk
right is for high rolls
cause tail combo can either give really good results or really bad results depending on your stam
kindred pagoda
Right is super good luck results your not gonna proc all of them
verbal patio
ayt tyty
kindred pagoda
If legend race was earlier i would have tried vodka for back up ace
turbid tusk
yo my golshi oguri competing at the final spurt is kinda crazy 
kindred pagoda
Its free 3* vodka this month
turbid tusk
goldship passing oguri made her proc pulse and beat another gold ship behind her
spare storm
yeah thats the idea for the 3 ace strategy
verbal patio
If legend race was earlier i would have tried vodka for back up ace <:Gladge:895...
vodka daiwa
spare storm
similar to your golshi oguri
but you have 3 ace fronts
that basically proc off each other
and you make distance
turbid tusk
i gotta go train a teio with my 3 borrows and hope she doesn't break her legs again
kindred pagoda
similar to your golshi oguri
Idk about that connection its just oguri ult needs to be 2nd to 5th which is gonna proc most of the times
turbid tusk
or this bitch special week will give her gourmand
spare storm
all im saying is that you can abuse the front runner position to always fight for position 1
and through that you can proc skills
which will make you gain distance
kindred pagoda
Front overtake mode also has a wit checj
verbal patio
kindred pagoda
Its absurd how much wits dependent front i throughout the race
spare storm
yeah thats why its not a recommended strategy but it is a strategy
cause you need 3 aces
and aces need to be stat'd
turbid tusk
it's not good until seiun sky and summer maru
kindred pagoda
You need 3 aces with focus+ groundwork and high wit to constantly trigger overtake mode
turbid tusk
need groundwork on them as well
kindred pagoda
Meet speed/stam and wit target
Also need high power to even bother with overtaking
Its just absurd
verbal patio
for the pace going front (if there's no fronts) is it also a wit check?
or just complete rng
spare storm
im not too sure, pacers are fine with staying behind position 1
so im guessing what would happen is that
1 pacer will take pos 1
and then the rest will just follow that pos 1 pacer
turbid tusk
rng
although it also has to do with power and speed
those with more power and speed and nearer to the 1st gate are more likely to get it
verbal patio
yeah cause I've noticed pace going front is so strong
like they just outrun the debuffers
turbid tusk
ye they don't get any front debuffs so their top speed is like .25m/s faster than front
while being pace
they get a free 5 lengths basically
verbal patio
that's crazy
kindred pagoda
ye they don't get any front debuffs so their top speed is like .25m/s faster tha...
Your only dodging fov debuffs, rest hit regardless of distance
Like dominator doesn't care about distance if its ahead you eat debufd
Same for all hesitant and subdued, for them even the front behind part doesn't matter
turbid tusk
why the hell did you ping me
i know that
the front debuffs i'm talking about are built into the game to nerf front runner top speed
so that other roles can catch up
spare storm
๐ ๐
kindred pagoda
why the hell did you ping me
Oh misclick
turbid tusk
it's why end closers always creep up on you in long straights cause their top speed is the highest
front runners will be good with summer maru
(it will only be summer maru)
kindred pagoda
Isnt seuin sky enough
kindred pagoda
Yeah i have heard of that, the 3rd cm will be super rng, easy stam check so whoever has more skill procs wins
turbid tusk
ye
turbid tusk
whales in hiding
everyone keeps talking up these mystical whales and i don't see them anywhere 
verbal patio
i might actually do the cringe urara strat for cm 2
the stat reqs is probably gigafucked
turbid tusk
1200 stam + 3 gold stams for best results
verbal patio
just golshi ig
quartz coral
this dude on my follow list is a mighty whale
verbal patio
and maybe taishin?
verbal patio
1200 stam + 3 gold stams for best results
so is the 3rd gold just going to be breath?
quartz coral
dude probably has every ssr mlb . he rotates them flexing
turbid tusk
so is the 3rd gold just going to be breath?
it's gotta be something in case the other two don't proc
turbid tusk
breath is okay cause there's so really long straights
sharp kernel
This me at work now
misty venture
pallid aurora
me on the left
sharp kernel
For real though the room matches are insane
Hopefully I don't meet them
In actual CM
verbal patio
pallid aurora
with my luck I'm gonna get all of the sweatiest leviathans
with 3 aces doing the front runner ramp up strat or a 1200spd/1200pow/1200wit nice nature with s med that outruns my best uma
spare storm
nah i think you guys are severely overestimating the skill level of the umas
like sure, you could get unlucky and get all the sweats
but its highly likely you would just get casuals
verbal patio
also the players who were thought open league was B+ max, not B 
i still don't know where tf they got that info
verbal patio
spare storm
there are some casuals that are literally
making their CM umas right now
like starting to make them right now
oblique tree
tho next cm probably has higher chance to meet sweat lord
since some people might get filtered this cm
sharp kernel
also the players who were thought open league was B+ max, not B <:ICANT:10395994...
These misinformed sweats deserve their shit pushed
pallid aurora
<:Deadge:1024899449841000500>
that's a certified wajaja moment
rigid bear
4 more days? there is till time to raise another debuffer during my lunch break
sharp kernel
PepeLaugh he thinks he's going to get the hint procs
sharp kernel
Someone said to create your own debuffer inheritance first with tachyon or grass wonder before making your nice nature
That makes sense
Makes too much sense even it upsets me that I didn't think of it
I was retard
astral pasture
sharp kernel
๐ข
rigid bear
PepeLaugh he thinks he's going to get the hint procs
I did 6 runs of agnes tachyon medium borrows i did not get one so my expectations are low ๐
verbal patio
wet sequoia
spare storm
thats the chinese one
sharp kernel
cold crag
not umazing
misty venture
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=j2SR-kx4XSo
AI looking ass
pallid aurora
glasic
sharp kernel
Jeezus medium S and this would have been giga 
turbid tusk
ye i would've picked up better skills as well
pliant mulch
wut da hell
never seen 4 times
surely the run
nope i get all the skills except for swining maestro and gourmand
๐ฆ ๐ฌ
misty venture
turbid tusk
can i <:Copege:815860260958109707> and hit a lucky run
you can register, there's no point not registering since you're not putting in horses or anything
rigid bear
can you only put 3 horses? no bench no nothing
spare storm
dont be a spreadsheet andy man
meanwhile gwen academy
"but thats different because you have to actually outplay the enemy"
people wouldnt need to spreadsheet andy if these retarded jp devs
actually told us what each skill does
like this
what do you think the activation conditions are?
and what does it do
Increases acceleration ok
on a corner, late-race
ok
nope, thats not it
its on the corner late-race but you have to be in 6th position
rigid bear
hes gonna run CM with A medium distance
spare storm
i mean he says not to spreadsheet andy
but his evil nature is already text book evil nature
as many debuffs as possible
900+ wit
with lone wolf to deny lone wolf
thats literally what everyone said to do
maybe he didnt read the spreadsheet but he got told that strategy by other people
oblique tree
yeah this game is impossible without gametora
even with guided career that tells u which dialgoue choice give which
still not enough
spare storm
also game mechanics
i dont think anywhere in the game it tells you about
rushing
late start
speed doing nothing until the late-race
wit giving you a very slight increase in speed on hills?
all they say is, speed makes your uma faster
which isnt false but theres more to it
oblique tree
i think as a base knowledge like the more stats the better is enough
sharp kernel
I was wondering what does spreadsheet Andy mean, it's just looking up guides lmao, standard gacha ahh
But yeah in game description really doesn't help
oblique tree
but stats balance between speed and power should be told in-game
sharp kernel
Not to mention Tazuna is trying to sabotage all other Umas by encouraging us to train guts
blissful vessel
i mean he says not to spreadsheet andy
whats the context of him saying this
because theres a right reason for this depending on the context
spare storm
the clip above
he said the game is solved
so dont be a spreadsheet andy
i honestly dont even use that spreadsheet unless its for information about game mechanic
cause the game does an insanely horrible job of explaining it
sharp kernel
The game does give a lot of baits like the free gold recovery skill they give you that is absolutely horrendous
Iron will
blissful vessel
okay i watched the few minutes before the clip
its not unreasonable for that specific point
sharp kernel
Can't believe lac convinces soda to play uma though usually it's the other way around
blissful vessel
he's saying that the game is more fun if you dont 'spreadsheet andy' and read the guide on what choices to make in each event
in that specific context
but he's schizo and trolling as well at other times so the message comes out wrong
spare storm
they add the qol of what each option does
sharp kernel
he's saying that the game is more fun if you dont 'spreadsheet andy' and read th...
When you play for the first time I absolutely agree
blissful vessel
because he does meta game shit
sharp kernel
I'd fish for the horse reactions first
spare storm
in JP they literally just tell you straight up what each option does
blissful vessel
xelyfer is getting annoyed because he's right and knows more and knows that the game is obtuse but he's arguing at ghosts because thats not what lacari is talking about in that specific clip
lacari is just saying 'just play the game and find out what each event does like its a normal game'
sharp kernel
Did soda just start playing?
spare storm
i mean sure if you want to play it the non qol added version of the game
if you started JP right now you would have the qol update for the options
JP devs are retarded for holding out on the qol updates
like we have 3 daily yoinks for other trainers
while TW had 6?
on release
blissful vessel
Did soda just start playing?
he was told to play one hour or whatever today cause it was variety day and then he got stuck into it for whatever reason
sharp kernel
he was told to play one hour or whatever today cause it was variety day and then...
Typical Uma onboarding experience om
oblique tree
jp has like 15 borrow limit
pallid aurora
classic jp mechanic explanations (nonexistent)
sharp kernel
like we have 3 daily yoinks for other trainers
This pisses me off fr fr
spare storm
if they REALLY didnt want us to have 15
spare storm
they should have given us 6
verbal patio
jp has like 15 borrow limit
tw and kr started with 5 right?
oblique tree
tw and kr started with 5 right?
i dont remember, but they added more in half anniv
sharp kernel
Anyways if Lacari meant new players shouldn't spreadsheet Andy yeah I agree, keep the magic for the first few runs
wet sequoia
https://www.twitch.tv/sodapoppin/clip/RacyGoodEggnogYouDontSay-86_dirl5_oqZQCTr?...
Bro i swear lacari spreading misinformations is so funny 
oblique tree
and everyone expecting all the qol update on half anniv for global sever
sharp kernel
Obviously his communication skills suck tho
spare storm
theres so many qol updates they could have given us on release but I guess they wanted us to have the same experience as JP for some reason
oblique tree
yeah its so dumb
oblique tree
i even forgot u can reroll spark in the game by paying staminaTP
spare storm
but the options qol should have been there on release
oblique tree
spare storm
cause some of those options dont even make sense
its like
"Go take a rest"
+20 stamina
wet sequoia
yeah this game is impossible without gametora
This game would be awful without gametora, game doesnt teach you shit
sharp kernel
cause some of those options dont even make sense
Stuff your face in until your stomach hurts, +30 stam om
sharp kernel
That's the most unintuitive one for me
spare storm
idk which uma it was
but there was actually one that was like "Go train more"
or something like that
sharp kernel
I guess if we're looking at an athlete pov it kinda makes sense
spare storm
and you got energy
or somethingh
you would assume go train more = -energy +stat
theres no consistency
"Go read a book" + 10 speed
oblique tree
I guess if we're looking at an athlete pov it kinda makes sense
sometimes this works, but most of the time no
wet sequoia
he's saying that the game is more fun if you dont 'spreadsheet andy' and read th...
Idk -mood down and+25 guts seems really good me wdym
spare storm
blissful vessel
Idk -mood down and+25 guts seems really good me <:kek:1092598898490613760> wdym
right but on a first playthrough that shit doesnt matter, you wouldn't even know guts is the worst unless you were reading a guide
spare storm
if no one used gametora then im sure a lot of people would just be running
600 across the board umas
and having 1 1 1 1 1 support decks
cause tazuna will be doing a wee bit of
also you would be looking at the other umas stats
wet sequoia
jp has like 15 borrow limit
i am gonna be honest most of the time i am tired after doing 3 runs per day. Idk how people love doing 10 runs every day or some shit. 
3 Runs per day seems very healthy and enough
sharp kernel
I think in the end fun is different for different people, some people just like to look at cute interactions and shit then yeah don't ruin yourself by being a spreadsheet andy run 1
spare storm
yeah theres different tiers of players
sharp kernel
If soda explicitly wants to be cm ready asap then yeah be a spreadsheet Andy king
pallid aurora
Goldship is malkavian in VtM if any of y'all played it
after being forced to read how she speaks this is accurate
sharp kernel
I guess he's quite competitive
spare storm
theres min maxers, people who just like to know but dont min max, and people who dont care
blissful vessel
which one was malkavian were they the schizos
pallid aurora
yes
blissful vessel
yeah I could see that
verbal patio
pallid aurora
no one fucking exclaims "Egad" in this current century
wet sequoia
right but on a first playthrough that shit doesnt matter, you wouldn't even know...
Yeah you would think Guts is really good cause Tazuna is telling you to train more guts
Tazuna wouldnt want to sabotage you
sharp kernel
My goat seriru told me to use guts card 
blissful vessel
there's just two different stages in an uma player
the first is learning and beating the career mode
the second is optimizing runs to make pvp horses
there's nothing wrong with not looking at a guide and enjoying the first stage of the game like its just a normal game
instead of immediately quick skipping 3 career runs a day minimum horse breeding
spare storm
it'll just take a while for us to catch up to JP
and then you cant really spreadsheet future content
sharp kernel
My goat seriru told me to use guts card <:BASEDHALT:955305056046022766>
And I actually did om, I did get a 13.9k curren out of it
I think I can push more
spare storm
people will have to start to figure it out
wet sequoia
theres min maxers, people who just like to know but dont min max, and people who...
Hey thats me i love rocket science and i find it very interesting, you can tell me about rocket science but hell nah i dont want to do it myself
verbal patio
My goat seriru told me to use guts card <:BASEDHALT:955305056046022766>
me accidentally almost making an ace oguri with ines fujin guts card
sharp kernel
there's nothing wrong with not looking at a guide and enjoying the first stage o...
Yeah both stages are great in their own ways but you won't ever get the first stage back so I understand why Lacari instinctively told people not to be spreadsheet andy (ego aside)
Altho if the person in particular is more interested in the minmaxxing than cgdct then maybe it's fine to start spreadsheet from day 1
pallid aurora
baldy I think is an experience purist
he just has zero vocabulary to express it in a meaningful way
without regurgitating what everyone already said yeah he likes not looking stuff up and prides himself in it
until he absolutely needs to
oblique tree
i mean he played league for 5+ years and just learn about what zed does a few weeks ago
verbal patio
i mean he played league for 5+ years and just learn about what zed does a few we...
played league for 5+ years just to be hardstuck
verbal patio
gets a million different coaches
verbal patio
all the information goes in one ear, exits on the other
oblique tree
i mean he played for so long time
verbal patio
oblique tree
no shot he doesnt know what other champion's ultimate does
or how they work even the slightest
blissful vessel
i mean when I played dota a long time ago all I did was play tinker and push lanes i just liked it it was fun
spare storm
hes gwen brainrotted
oblique tree
i mean at least learn what he did, and try to avoid
spare storm
yeah
oblique tree
not being completely clueless and surprise he died to it
sharp kernel
It's true but you didn't pretend to be the best tinker in NA
verbal patio
yeah but at least he should know the matchups by now?
spare storm
you dont need to play other heros to know what they do
you might not know the small gimmicks they can do
but you should know the guist of what they do
eg. This guy wants to initiate with this skill and combo like this
or
blissful vessel
It's true but you didn't pretend to be the best tinker in NA <:kek:1092598898490...
the problem with lacari is that what he genuinely is and what his stream persona is mixes up too much and then gets mad when people call him out
blissful vessel
because when he's serious and when he isnt is completely arbitrary at every minute of the day
spare storm
i still cant believe in his 10k hours of gwen
he never experienced a hero flashing on him
wet sequoia
he just has zero vocabulary to express it in a meaningful way
Oh yeah for sure he is really bad at explaining and teaching shit. Its like... Imagine Lacari is your Co-Worker that is suppossed to teach you and its your first day. Ohh hell naw brother
spare storm
and pressing buttons
oblique tree
he never experienced a hero flashing on him
ye exactly
he saw the enemy had flash and just ult straight
sharp kernel
foreva missing 1 trophy
wet sequoia
<:Deadge:1024899449841000500> foreva missing 1 trophy
hey thats me but i am missing El Condor Trophy
Cause i started to late
turbid tusk
forever bricked 150 carats
verbal patio
<:Deadge:1024899449841000500> foreva missing 1 trophy
iirc they make most/if not all of the previous ones available later on
i joined jp when it was 2nd anni and i could do older legend races
sharp kernel
Join me 3/3
turbid tusk
glue runs
rigid bear
A+ A Medium
sweet kiln
cm participation rewards look awful
i guess not worth entering if i only wanted to grab them ?
or there some other reasons ?
that are not obvious
oblique tree
i mean its a free reward
unless ur swiping in the game
u can choose open league, but you are limited to ur B uma
u cant use ur best uma
sweet kiln
5 carrots just not worth the time
i assume u gave to spend like around 10 minutes on cm at least ?
to click stuff
spare storm
CM is a place for people to pull out their fav umas and race, of course when theres rewards people will try a bit more than usual
Like some people want to race with grass wonder as the ace cause of his recent passing
the rewards for 1st 2nd and 3rd place is pretty decent
sharp kernel
You become gi-hun
sweet kiln
ye i understand, this is just me
oblique tree
its free reward
sweet kiln
don't really have anything prepared for this cm
sharp kernel
oblique tree
even if u lose u still get like 300/400 gems
sweet kiln
might try playing the next
spare storm
the next one will be omega hard
sharp kernel
Just put anything for this cm, it's free rewards
sharp kernel
300 sounds ok
Cygames brainwashing complete 
sharp kernel
but in the ui it says 5
5 for first round if you don't win, if you click further to the right there are other rewards for the following rounds
sweet kiln
i mean, i will click randomn stuff to get 300 
sharp kernel
Or is it down? But anyway the 'finals' give the most rewards
oblique tree
no cause there is 3 player in 1 match
sweet kiln
ohhhhhhhh
spare storm
its 3v3v3
sweet kiln
ok, then it's worth, ty
oblique tree
in final round
pallid aurora
run 3 str cards
never get more than one of them on str in any one turn
errant basin
played league for 5+ years just to be hardstuck <:Gladge:895513992318029884>
wtf its been 5 years
rigid bear
really? i remember him playing weeks after gwen released maybe im wrong
pallid aurora
๐ฆ
kindred pagoda
HOW AM I SO KFING INSANELY UNLUCKY MAN, 3 borrow runs ALL FKING NIGHT OWLS, THE ONE RUN I GOT MEDIUM S and RED SHIFT SPAR GOT 4 FKING sleep deprived with 2 night owls
astral pasture
like we have 3 daily yoinks for other trainers
KR got 5 borrows per day on release it ain't much but 5 is still more than 3
errant basin
thats massive wdym
astral pasture
Global got the short end of the stick
IDK why they didn't implement 5 immediately
sharp kernel
Global people are only good at glazing
Koreans can threaten to pay a truck at any time
astral pasture
bro I ain't glazing this game ever I like the horse girls but I hate the game
also my rerolling incident
wasted a total of 20 hrs of my life
for LB2
accounts
sharp kernel
And if u ask me global people in general have a 'healthier' relationship in a sense that oh gacha company doesn't do what I want, not a big deal, or if it is I'm gonna do something else
Not good for forcing company but probably better on individual level
Idk
Im just rambling cos I'm sick
oblique tree
u got more
astral pasture
I despise gacha PVP unless it's like a mini game kind of way
oblique tree
if u want to play front u want seiun sky's ult
tho u still have an option to borrow her instead
astral pasture
I have 3 horses that I want for this year Seiun sky, Agnes digital and Xguri
and Kitasan rerun
for one more copy
turbid tusk
i will be training up a seiun sky
i don't think i'm training up a front runner though
sharp kernel
if u want to play front u want seiun sky's ult
Yeah I know it's a rhetorical question 
astral pasture
I'm getting Seiun sky for VBourbon
oblique tree
astral pasture
Bourbon is my actual waifu
astral pasture
it's kinda reminds me of that one Miku outfit
verbal patio
<:Deadge:1024899449841000500> foreva missing 1 trophy
Ok I found my old jp acc
U can do one legend race a day
verbal patio
Yup
astral pasture
wait you can just farm horses
verbal patio
Just once a day tho
astral pasture
still that's a lot in a month
verbal patio
My stats are so bad
astral pasture
<:Stroneg:843956916425064448>
copano Ricky
that rat of dirt tracks
is she still the must of dirt on JP?
verbal patio
my long umas
cosmic pecan
Are skills that op
verbal patio
is she still the must of dirt on JP?
Ngl I didn't know shit
astral pasture
that shit is drying
cosmic pecan
You run long with 555
verbal patio
Like i played with no guide
cosmic pecan
verbal patio
And i quit like in a month
astral pasture
I mean that's normal
cosmic pecan
Uma is impossible without guide
This entire game is a knowledge check plus slot machine
verbal patio
Esp when I couldn't understand jp
cosmic pecan
Was the overlay not out when you played
astral pasture
knowledge check+ time investment+ being lucky
cosmic pecan
It translates everything and tells you resulrs of all choices
verbal patio
It did but dmm made the shitty decision to region lock
And i was too lazy to buy a VPN
cosmic pecan
verbal patio
It was so annoying to open and update
cosmic pecan
The game is still regionlocked to this day
verbal patio
Yeah
cosmic pecan
I had to vpn to play from hongkong
sharp kernel
Are you Victoria 
verbal patio
sharp kernel
oblique tree
oh shit jp topic
verbal patio
I think i spent all my gems pulling for characters
And barely pulled for support cards
sharp kernel
I think i spent all my gems pulling for characters <:ICANT:1039599418208428182>
That's gonna be me
oblique tree
cosmic pecan
But cards are way too op
cosmic pecan
JP is fucking retarded anyways
They balanced the game so fucking bad
They had to just disable all debuff skills
For the most recent CM
Because oshif were complaining about losing to debuffers
And debuffers could max stat and skill anyways plus debuff
sharp kernel
Cygames ๐ฆ ๐ฌ
errant basin
nothing less from the creators of monkeygate
cosmic pecan
goes to show you summer golshi is must roll
years later
they are still paying for the sins of summer golshi
oblique tree
They had to just disable all debuff skills
u sure they ban debuff ?
cosmic pecan
yes
the skills are hard coded
to have 0% proc chance
you can bring them but the skills will never activate
oblique tree
cause from what i know, debuff is useless cause they doesnt scale with the current stats the uma has
1200+ on everything
cosmic pecan
debuffs arent useless
oblique tree
so debuffing them is pretty useless, cause its too small
cosmic pecan
because you can be stat cap everything but guts
with regular skills
or you can be stat cap everything but guts
with regular skills
and debuffs
so they always win
you have super strong parents in JP that basically guarantee S distance with giga skills
you can hit stat cap on all stats but guts super easily because shit like MANT gives you so many stats
to the point where before, if you are above 1200
you gain stats at 25%