i thought everyone knew that 300ish guts is what you want
#Umamusume: Pretty Derby
timid portal
kindred pagoda
Watch this video it is a more accurate representation of required stamina
spare storm
yeah thats why i keep saying 850 + 2 golds
cause you're going to get shit on by evil nature
that other gold ship didn't even activate any gold recovery skills, the goldship who won activated a maestro at the start
also cause of his S medium and S turf
his stamina usage is way higher than A A
any trigonometry majors in here?
spare storm
austere flicker
pallid aurora
wet sequoia
You guys run, I'll hold her off
sharp kernel
nahhh bro cant have you with all the responsibility
spare storm
sharp kernel
guys i won a room match 
wet sequoia
Is this good enough for CMs or glue?
neon trench
fr fr 
sharp kernel
his oguri is cap as in peak ๐
astral pasture
My gold ship runs this week
pallid aurora
My gold ship runs this week
made from more than 90% @kindred pagoda 's goldships
(mine are worse)
novel raptor
we need to do lobby doomorrow
pallid aurora
im down
we can host several lobbies with different loadouts too if thats something people are interested in
turbid tusk
bring out your natures to test stam
austere flame
is that just hamburg steak?
austere flame
sharp kernel
lobby matches (I will be last place)
austere flame
ngl
spare storm
thats a giant ass carrot
kind blaze
do yall think a actual horse would like that food
spare storm
im off by 1
ahhhhh
horses dont eat meat
well, they arent supposed to eat meat
but umamusumes are half human half horses
verbal patio
<:Gladge:895513992318029884> bring out your natures to test stam
All that farming just for my aces to explode and die 
That lucky 7 on my tm opera will get me my wins
oblique tree
man i got a good run goldshi but kitasan and sc event didnt trigger the whole training
turbid tusk
1/9 chance for lucky seven to carry you 
pallid aurora
so we got a downgrade?
light slate
yes
turbid tusk
it's okay all 3 of my tachyon runs got griefed
no med S, one million debuffs and mood downs
failed every less than 10% training i took
spare storm
probably thought it was a small patch of grass thats running away
quartz coral
herbivores are lazy motherfuckers they will eat meat if its easily available
quartz coral
cosmic pecan
Got griefed
Like single double speed rainbow with 4 speed
Missing S med again
Probably have to run no s med golshi
turbid tusk
time to pull out the double dominator and bring everyone down to your level
quartz coral
just keep trying its all you can do eventually rng will let you win on mid s
turbid tusk
you know even with S med if you hit dominator at the final corner S med is slower than 1200 spd
quartz coral
trying to build a hybrid grass wonder right now but its going
cosmic pecan
Pray for easy rooms
quartz coral
dodged front hints 
velvet glade
looks good to me
sharp kernel
im just gonna try nice nature one more time if it doesnt hit shit im just gonna settle with more or less the above
velvet glade
is there a rare or sr card with good debuffs?
im already taking the rice shower ssr
velvet glade
ty ๐
sharp kernel
austere flame
<:FeelsWoweMan:374329807510700033>
You know whats faster than the tachyon? Flow of my cum
sharp kernel
tachyon's 2000+ descendants don't come from nowhere
sharp kernel
cope but i aint gonna farm her career again just 1 more pace chaser or end closer debuff wouldve been nice man
rigid bear
cope but i aint gonna farm her career again <:TrollDespair:898626002006208523> ...
what decks did u run
sharp kernel
pixels for ants
astral pasture
I feel like if you don't have a MLB or lvl 45 Kitasan on your actual deck your can't compete properly on CM
since you're competing with people that can have MLB Creek or FM as borrow
kindred pagoda
No thats not true if you dont have marz or takui then you cant compete because stats can be obtained if you just keep doing runs
The only real restriction is dependency on guest borrows
sharp kernel
i just pray i avoid all the room matchers when the actual event comes
no way i can beat 1200/1000 ahh honses
snow flower
I don't even have a single cm horse
I do have about 90 stamina pots
just started using them
turbid tusk
it's all rng at the end
kindred pagoda
Well even in cm their many layers of rng, matchmaking, mood rng (not in A bracket but thats if you reach it) and finally 70% wits rng not proc skills
turbid tusk
i've lost to non S med horses cause dominator proc'd at the final corner
also the moods are all rng
sharp kernel
ok I beat one with a medium A front runner suzuka that guy must have been late start + all bad RNG
turbid tusk
i think the finals for this one also might be rng if they haven't fixed it
so there's a random chance someone is on great mood and you're on bad mood or the opposite and you're randomly up or down 8% stats
sharp kernel
just started using them
when you do you gonna start to hate yourself the RNG layers of this game is unreal
kindred pagoda
A bracket is all great mood
turbid tusk
no
it's random until finals
but finals for this one might not be all great
cause japan also released with random finals mood
kindred pagoda
Isnt a bracket the finals?
turbid tusk
and i think they're using japan's code
no
A bracket is the bracket you go to after winning 3/5 tickets
otherwise you get kicked to B bracket
and if you lose again you're out
kindred pagoda
Then what is final
turbid tusk
finals is 3 people
kindred pagoda
Ik about that stuff im just assuming final = a lobby
turbid tusk
that won A bracket twice
quartz coral
holy shit this is such a troll cursed debuff run
kindred pagoda
Oh so basically we dont bother for it
oblique tree
snow flower
when you do you gonna start to hate yourself the RNG layers of this game is unre...
I can already imagine it
just the sparks alone is something else
quartz coral
proced turf s, mid s, pump iron and redshift like wtf
turbid tusk
ye you have a shit ton of chances so it kind of mitigates the rng
cause if your horses are better then you're more likely to win
sharp kernel
cygames always keep the same methods across games om
quartz coral
where is this shit when i actually need it
sharp kernel
shadowverse also works this way
snow flower
yeah and gbf
turbid tusk
i love when all my runs don't proc med even though almost all my parents have med
i'm using this shitty ass one guts 3 med maru
sharp kernel
carry nature let's go
quartz coral
too late to even think about that these cards are ass
astral pasture
No thats not true if you dont have marz or takui then you cant compete because s...
well I don't have both
I'm just 3x borrowing them and hoping for the best run
verbal patio
No thats not true if you dont have marz or takui then you cant compete because s...
that's why people were making parents with borrowing maru/taiki as one of the gps, and borrow a taiki/maru parent with a taiki/maru gp
that's what i did for taiki at least for a while
turbid tusk
ye if you had them 3* it's at least 7.5% chance of inheriting them
quartz coral
this might be worse 
turbid tusk
if you're willing to spam runs
her stats are too high so her eyes aren't gonna hit shit
turbid tusk
quartz coral
her stats are too high so her eyes aren't gonna hit shit
this bitch hit turf and mid s the first inspiration 
quartz coral
quartz coral
back to the mines 
verbal patio
this was one of my ggp runs
quartz coral
subdued end keeps dodging 
novel raptor
this was one of my ggp runs <:sheeesh:896898078844518400>
holy crap the game didn't even try
verbal patio
i was so pissed that it didn't even land on the shitty skills 
verbal patio
right?
i just realized how much i farmed for this event
i glued like a really good chunk too cause i was full
all to loose to a giga golshi
quartz coral
novel raptor
no pace debuffs also
quartz coral
it was glue already before that dodged subdued end and pace
novel raptor
why is it that when i get deluxe burgsteak on taiki the screen goes white like she went to heaven or something
quartz coral
have not gotten subdued end to proc once
sharp kernel
that air groove card always procs groundwork when nice nature wields it but not when an actual prospective parent wields it
spare storm
i think late surger savvy is probably your most important no?
actually need that or your range of all-seeing eyes is kinda poo poo
so instead of having a wide view to blast the debuff, its more narrow but longer
turbid tusk
those cards cost more than a real life horse
novel raptor
how about only until 10pm dimi
sharp kernel
are end closer debuffs harder to hit?
timid portal
kindred pagoda
are end closer debuffs harder to hit?
No you just air groove card she has all end closer debuffs plus 40% hint increase
I saw some peoplr creating specialized debuffer for golshi by having fov debuffs to worsen their lane change movements
kindred pagoda
first borrow run after reset
first rest night owl, first train after night owl energy plus mood down
what an amazing start
obsidian jungle
askin to be glue
kindred pagoda
another one
at this point i just feel like a madman where the only enjoyability is laughing off my garbage luck 
kindred pagoda
for a shit run this ended up training good stats except no med S or gp accel skills so still meh
lyric robin
my horse is glue for some reason
kindred pagoda
i encountered the legenendary grief on golshi but not my ideal borrow run
all runs wasted
going max energy and mood and then it proc twice so i get absolutely 0 benifit from the fickle maiden event
austere flame
kindred pagoda
Whats the result
Honestly at this point I'm just gonna traim daiwa in the last 6 borrows and go pace with her
I aint winning shit
novel raptor
it's dogwater
i didn't get rainbows in URA
i already have a gold ship ready anyway
i'm just fishing a better one at this point if i could
rigid bear
im getting dunked on cm lobbies
need more stam skills
maybe i run agnes 
rlly wanted hachimi to work ๐
quartz coral
today has been god awful
spent a good portion of the day trying to farm a nice nature with late surger savvy only for tachy to troll the ever loving shit out of me by never doing the event. eventually i just tossed that support card and leveled zenno rob sr which has the same skill. now i can get the skill easily but rudolf decides not to ever give hints for debuffs 
wet sequoia
Been running Special week but having a hard time completing this run
Any tips?
kindred pagoda
strange i thought i wont meet the stamina quota and get enough speed but the opposite happen
whats the best other speed card to borrow for this cm (whale card)
pliant mulch
bakushin / biko for the rainbows
kindred pagoda
ok first attempt with biko mlb and got this result now my deck is finalized now all i need is medium S and red shift from 4* sparks
legendary daiwa ace coming
IF YOU JUST HAVE BIKO MLB AND CREEK MLB YOU CAN DO ANYTHING THESE CARDS ARE JUST SO STUPIDLY BUSTED
training effectiveness + energy events
i might pull on biko bakushin banner
both op cards
turbid tusk
are you about to swipe 
spare storm
kind blaze
kind blaze
whos a good character to be a 9 star speed parent
kind blaze
so like bourbon then?
spare storm
i think shes medium
maybe someone like rice shower
golshi
super creek
but its a bit tricky
kind blaze
what about tmopera, special week, or rudolph
spare storm
if people are wanting to make golshi aces
then you ideally dont want golshi as grandparents
cause they dont get affinity for selfcest
errant basin
spare storm
so its not a really simple question on what 9* speed is good
you kinda have to make the bloodline to what your uma you're training
or wanting to be an ace
special week is a long yeah
you can use her
kind blaze
nice
kind blaze
a medium front runner
spare storm
i feel like its still very rng to hit 1200 850 on med with a 4 speed 2 stamina deck with 9* power if your deck isn't close to max limit broken
unless your uma has speed and stamina bonus
feel like you should just go 9* stamina to make sure you can hit the stamina requirement and just slam speed as much as possible
if you got max limit broken deck then i guess you can go 9* power
kind blaze
9star power instead
id do that if i got any power 3stars, but i only have speed
kind blaze
steal one from the database
already been doing that, but i want a 9star of my own
spare storm
7* and 9* isnt that big of a difference
its like 1-2 rainbow training
if you are min maxing then i guess its huge
but i guess its still a good goal to work towards
having your own 9*
quartz coral
should i go for a second gold stam recovery even if it isn't that good or debuffs? have 900 stam and maestro. the gold skill is breath of fresh air
this is a cracked grass wonder
pliant mulch
bofa is good on medium+
quartz coral
ok
pliant mulch
and you need 2
quartz coral
i'll get it
pliant mulch
at least for cm
spare storm
2 gold stamina skills are good
cause you increase the consistency
its not going to save you if you have omega bad luck though
the idea of 2 gold skills is that, yes, you can live more against more debuffs
but its also so you have 2 chances of procing the stamina skill compared to only 1 chance
breath is bad though
so i wouldnt take that gold skill
its swinging maesto + one of the following, gourmand, race planner or go-home specialist
you also could just go 1 gold stamina skill and ride closer to the rng line
pliant mulch
i mean its all rng
if you get it to proc in middle its good
early slightly wasted
spare storm
you could also do the 2 aces 1 debuffer strategy
1 ace has 2 gold stamina
the other ace has 1 gold stamina but has better accel/velocity skills to be faster overall
yeah its all rng but you want to build to be more consistent
so you either win with the 1 stamina ace
or fallback on the more consistent 2 stamina ace
sharp kernel
im starting mejiro ryan career for next CM, this one is a bust
ornate crow
astral pasture
next CM is really good for Narita Taishin havers
fathom knoll
MLB Super Creek and 3 Star Stam Biwa / 5 Star Power 
sharp kernel
next CM is really good for Narita Taishin havers
dont remind me sister
cosmic pecan
finally 2nd 3* stam
but the GPs are 2* since i was white farming
the pinks and greens are terrible tho
probably use it for farming first 9* stam
verbal patio
holy the chance to inherit pink spark is so fucked
https://fixupx.com/BourBon_Polaris/status/1819346545810235714
sharp kernel
bros this boxed in situation is crazy
cosmic pecan
i wish i had
average RNG
i would have really good runs
with just average luck
no prof curve
dogshit rainbows summers
no S medium
sharp kernel
bruh why do I get all my debuffs when im trying ryan but not when im training nature
lol i cant even reach 1200/8** stam consistently yet
pliant mulch
man if i didnt fail 2 trainings i would be 1150 speed 900 stam
but also no swining maestro
pliant mulch
16
timid portal
cosmic pecan
bro
pliant mulch
you should be like 600+ spd and stam by the end
pliant mulch
are ur parents at least 2*
cosmic pecan
fuckin sick
another summer
3 days no rainbow
i could have such good horses if i had
at least average luck
jesus
actually so unfair
oblique tree
oblique tree
sharp kernel
why is super creek always so good in these? i guess she has big mommy stam
oblique tree
big milkers
ok this game is trolling
just started training
all 12 turn before maiden race
0 event triggered
turbid tusk
her personal almost always procs in long distance and rolls yoou
haughty estuary
verbal patio
<:kek:1092598898490613760> how the fuck do you finish ura with nice nature
debuff the enemy so they don't win
pallid aurora
yo tazuna is actually kind of crazy
with narita
aaand then she fails two <20% trainings into the bin fuck you
oblique tree
sharp kernel
y'all know whens ines fujin btw?
verbal patio
y'all know whens ines fujin btw?
like the actual uma?
the site might be slightly off tho
sharp kernel
man such a long time
also i made smart falco won at turf happy 4 her
story is really weird after she wins on turf though like, why go back to dirt
ahh well
spare storm
yeah
that banner timeline was made with JP in mind
they decided to change it around for this month
oblique tree
yea the august banner prediction was wrong right ?
cause they officially announce the date for this month's event and banner its incorrect
snow flower
only by 3 days
oblique tree
i mean yeah because uma oficial post the list of banner and event date
spare storm
i guess so
errant basin
havent even made debut yet and got hit by 3 mood downs
spare storm
mood down day
sharp kernel
i was today years old when i learned that air groove uses bar soap for her tail
we are not so different after all
errant basin
the tailbone
turbid tusk
i'm about to make agnes a fucking debuff bot
can't fucking hit any double rainbow speed trainings let alone triple
the one time she hits med S and rainbows don't exist
can't even turn her into glue cause she hit 3 speed
kindred pagoda
55% chance of success
I did like 2 50% gambles on last turn both lost
kindred pagoda
1st lacks speed 2nd lacks stam, if your going pace you need 1400-1450 (stam + guts) to not run out of stam without relying on goldskills
kindred pagoda
<:kek:1092598898490613760> how the fuck do you finish ura with nice nature
Train speed stam and wit only, train speed and stam till 540 then all wits, take any debuff hints if they arrive regardless of skill training
I might have to use parent grass to gey subdeud front, having to depend on rudolf for late and front subdued with no hint freq increase
sharp kernel
you know I just realized I went into a few room matches and I saw quite a few air groove aces. Is there something about her?
or just waifu pick
kindred pagoda
Air groove aces is grief
Wait are you talking about uma or the card
I have heard the uma is being used to specially fk over golshi players
sharp kernel
Uma
kindred pagoda
Its basically getting fov debuffs which make ai make worse decisions and get boxed but at the end of the day rng does that anyway
Also could be just oshi uma
sharp kernel
She does have surprisingly high speed growth I notice
dusk rapids
quartz coral
is 3 ace strat viable?
kindred pagoda
if you have cali deck yes
quartz coral
i don't see how people are getting though full career with high wit and low stats. i ate all the alarms on the way and still failed final. would have been higher wit but she tried to glue herself mid career. 3 turn slacker debuff into a mood bad
oblique tree
well i mean most people who build debuffer always has high wisdom
probably from speed parent
kindred pagoda
36+turns and 10+ hints all failed to give a single debuff hint
legendary unlcuky debuffer run encountered
also got gold inspire on this run, like everytimei get gold inspire on debuff runs its glue , its a bad omen at this point
kindred pagoda
dont train speed and stam after reaching 500 , only click wits after that unless hints
quartz coral
dont train speed and stam after reaching 500 , only click wits after that unless...
then i get boxed and blocked then die
kindred pagoda
try to pay attention to your positions
if too many umas ahead of your style
then change style
more umas ahead = box angle
8 above is o7 from my experience
quartz coral
run in front still get boxed somehow
quartz coral
go from pace to front and place worse
quartz coral
thats in races where i get boxed i try to switch
kindred pagoda
and no debuff proc
quartz coral
usually end up doing worse
kindred pagoda
yes front is something you do when you have high stam (500 for ura)
quartz coral
which is what i did and she ate shit
kindred pagoda
i dont like to take front most of the times
ill rather have pace
and if long race late
longer races late and end is good
misty venture
sharp kernel
Why do people make tachyon debuffer again
kindred pagoda
BRO 3 FKING RUNS 5 NN HINTS and not a single debuff 
i picked the guts nn to give hints , it give hints my luck is so ass anyway
and 2 stats proc ty NN
quartz coral
grass wonder my best she constantly beating my goldship
kindred pagoda
all those tachyons
all glue
i have gotten murmur from one of the career races more then nn hints
and almost half of these tachyon runs got gold spark
to sprinkle some extra fk you on my face
sterile gate
sweet kiln
not sure which horse to set as star, 8 stam oguri with a dirt spark and pretty good white sparks, or this 9 stam golshi 
kindred pagoda
IDK HOW IM THIS UNLUCKY 7 RUNs MAN it takes me 5 hints on avg to get a debuff pr card
all glue tachyon today
sharp kernel
Brother these guys are insane
Lucky they didn't get medium S
Well I hope this is good enuff, took me a run without sleep deprived for this
No maru skill proc tho
obsidian jungle
velvet glade
astral pasture
Brother these guys are insane
this would lose to someone with Medium S I feel like
like I feel like you'll need another frontrunner with groundwork for that to work
misty venture
quartz coral
this damn support card doesnt wanna drop murmur
kindred pagoda
Feel my agnes suffering
wet sequoia
spare storm
what even happened
do you just end career
or did you not do her story properly
you have to go into her 3rd race with normal+ mood
or else the 4th race becomes mile instead of medium
she has D in mile vs A in medium
kindred pagoda
or did you not do her story properly
She lost arima keinen mostly due to her lacking an speed boost skill, its just all of these dont have the skills combo im aiming do wasting a clock is pointless
spare storm
what support deck are you running
I think shes a special case where you can inherit stamina and just run a 4 speed 2 wit deck
or 4 speed 1 wit 1 stamina
kindred pagoda
Rudolf, guts nn, air groove, aoi (i scrapped her to sweep), rice stam and marvelous
turbid tusk
agnes runs are cursed
spare storm
ah you're doing debuff agnes
kindred pagoda
The thing is stats dont matter when i get a debuff an avg 4 hints
kindred pagoda
I have but im going double dom debuff
My ace aint op so ill rather do a - 0.8 speed to every one late race
spare storm
yeah ive had a little bit of trouble with agnes too
kindred pagoda
Increasing daiwa chance to proc ult by getting first
kindred pagoda
I was trying aoi
She sucks ass
Alot of the problem is MY FKING MARVELOUS is 0lb so i need to borrow mlb for hint freq increase
So i cant borrow bakushin cookin or satano
Aoi was definitely a big reason those runs failed but they didn't have my target skill so still doesn't matter
kindred pagoda
0lb gives no hint freq
spare storm
that has 0 hint frequency
snow flower
๐
kindred pagoda
cause dont people run R rudolf?
Rudolf is 4/6 debuffs, majority of other cards are 2/6 or 1/5 for debuff hint
Rudolf is more of a manipulatable hint card to cover a weak point
spare storm
i guess so
more debuffs so it doesnt matter as much
make sure you get the savvy of the position too
what style are you running on agnes
kindred pagoda
I mean my air groove with 40% hint increase decides to fk off for an year
So its kinda cope
kindred pagoda
what style are you running on agnes
Pace early late once i get nn card debuffs
The other problem with agnes is you cant run the agnes card which is very high value
My grass runs were far better compared to agnes misery
All i need is one good run
But all i got was - 8 stam bottles
reef robin
when do you switch between late and pace
I see some people just slam F front runner in some fights
kindred pagoda
Some of the times
reef robin
turbid tusk
you're gambling on whether you late start or not
pliant mulch
I only do that in career when I don't have enough stamina
earnest gust
spare storm
boin boin
austere flicker
Got the last copy for MLB Tazuna from the Golshi SR ticket
pallid aurora
dam
austere flicker
Why wasn't it Super creek
novel raptor
waja... ja
spare storm
should have just broken her down into cleats
shes so useless
riko just powercreeps her
in every way
spare storm
yeah the trainer cards that they release is usually specific to that scenario
but i think riko power creeps her even in URA?
oblique tree
well people will moves to aoharu hai scenario to train cause its better
so i guess it powercrept
snow flower
too bad tazuna is useless after ura
errant basin
how many gold recovery skills do end closers need
oblique tree
whos the uma, goldshi ?
errant basin
taishin
errant basin
so should i get a bunch of accel skills then
oblique tree
ye its tomorrow
oblique tree
right one
oblique tree
oh the image cuts
oblique tree
left but with right stats
errant basin
turbid tusk
where's the maestro
sharp kernel
Man this game is driving me insane
The one game I got late surger savvy
Literally no debuff skill events procced
As in literally none
Out of 6 cards that can provide at least 1
turbid tusk
rng hell
novel raptor
wajaja dimi
snow flower
another demon...
snow flower
but her name is nice nature
turbid tusk
wtf is wrong with her why'd she inherit every fucking tail combo
snow flower
sharp kernel
CM should start tomorrow right?
time to kick out all medium friends and change to long
JK im building time trials team first, still need those mediums
turbid tusk
this fucking game never gives me rainbows anymore
pliant mulch
apparetly its sign up and then actual races in 4 days
gonna boom myself if i dont get a good one
snow flower
so there's no race until after 4 days?
novel raptor
but her name is nice nature
that's evil
pallid aurora
no med s but this is probably the best I'm getting
verbal patio
pallid aurora
too relevant
sharp kernel
apparetly its sign up and then actual races in 4 days
they really extend this as long as possible huh
pallid aurora
https://fixupx.com/manjo_9257/status/1956738100971122805
literally my run
sharp kernel
but at least I'm free from attempting any more meagre increase to my "aces" (I say aces it's more like 2 of diamonds)
sharp kernel
time for time trial beauty contest point farming next
sharp kernel
she could have maxed speed if she didn't fail a 50/50
always
but the thing that pisses me off the most is the medium S shite
sharp kernel
at least they make turf and style S relatively irrelevant
back to saving for horses
turbid tusk
nuke the other horses instead
sweet kiln
why is it saying not enough ? do u have to have normal level up mats even when using alt mats ?
sweet kiln
so it's not a switch between normal and alt mats, u need all these mats on both pages ?
spare storm
you need ALL of them
sharp kernel
LOL that was me too when I first realized it
spare storm
you understand why monies is so important now?
like the sashes and shoes are whatever compared to the monies
you dont want to be wasting your monies on random shit
sharp kernel
yeah shoes are... shoo-ins 
eventually
sashes are still kinda annoying though esp. the 1 race sashes like kikuka-sho
spare storm
yeah those take time to get
but you basically have unlimited energy
if you are a real person
spare storm
if you somehow have no energy then you probably play like 12h a day
pallid aurora
turbid tusk
you can change horses around
astral pasture
sharp kernel
debuffers are still relevant for a lot of CMs right?
i think i'll also try to make a super evil nature with late surger savvy + lone wolf
sharp kernel
narita brian's aura makes her seem taller than she actually is
spare storm
where your late surger savvy at
turbid tusk
ye debuffers are relevant until they get banned
spare storm
pallid aurora
my what
spare storm
your green skill
spare storm
cause you can actually hit the pacers and sometimes front
spare storm
instead of having a girthy hit box
it becomes long
its better to just find an uma that has it as a white skill
cause its really aids to get
i guess you can do agnes
pallid aurora
oh
I have agnes
I was using her in that run 
I just don't know what event it's from
spare storm
top option
Happenstance introduced through intervention
better to find a parent uma that has it as a white skill
and just have a better support card
but it might be hard to find a parent uma
pallid aurora
yeah I'm just gonna gamba with the event
also is there an ideal support card to use for debuffs
spare storm
sharp kernel
Happenstance introduced through intervention
Yeah 8 runs and this don't proc for me. Better to find a parent fr
spare storm
do you know how to get all the skills?
spare storm
you buy immediately so when you click the hint
it cant go from like 1 hint to 2 hint
it will always give a hint for a new skill
pallid aurora
oh
spare storm
dont need to understand it
just buy the debuff immediately after you get the hint for it
pallid aurora
yeah I was trying to wait for the discounts
spare storm
yeah
its better to find a parent uma for late surger savvy if you can
cause its from an event
not a hint
so its much more harder to get/more rng
otherwise just pray
pallid aurora
hmm
ok I can tweak this deck
found a debuffer dude with an mlb nice nature card and am evil oguri
with late surge and I found my condor has it too
evil wonder
turbid tusk
it's specifically for LoS debuffs
spare storm
yeah
grass wonder doesnt need it
cause her one just hits
i think stamina debuffs are always line of sight
turbid tusk
nah it's all-seeing eyes
it mentions specifically field of view
which is why everything that increases or decreases FoV affects it
pallid aurora
this run is cooked
spare storm
aim for 900 wit
after 900 the chance drop like crazy
basically 900 wit is the "soft cap"
snow flower
is that what out of monnies looks like
sharp kernel
Jaysus that seiun sky
snow flower
suffering fom success
spare storm
they got you man
pallid aurora
they did
snow flower
damn
pallid aurora
monies is the struggle for me now
sharp kernel
I'm thinking to try a 4 speed / 2 stam goldship 1 last time. Any borrowed support card recos? I have creek alr, only 1 LB tho
turbid tusk
there should be 80 more stamina if it didn't fucking fail a 78% chance
pallid aurora
rigid bear
how tf u guys get past kikua sho with debuf evil nature deck
turbid tusk
i get stam inspirations
rigid bear
what about amira kinen
rigid bear
okay so i just dont buy murmur early
sharp kernel
Kikuka is toughest, 3kms vs 2.5 kms of arima
350-400 stam and youll survive I think
I never had issue, sometimes I don't win though
rigid bear
idk i was no.1 in kikua sho got 3rd then amira kinen no.7 then 8th place 4 clocks
sharp kernel
If you're blocked...
novel raptor
skill i-
snow flower
pallid aurora
pallid aurora
its even more scuffed but I got more debuffs
turbid tusk
my nice nature really hates end closers
pallid aurora
I don't wanna match against you then 
turbid tusk
her power's also low as fuck so her eyes are hitting everybody
i also have a grass specifically for pace chasers
pallid aurora
damn u out for blood
turbid tusk
gotta make sure i win
pallid aurora
my grass is just an icbm
sharp kernel
won 5/6 test runs
Opposite ratio of my test runs but at least I got wins... I guess...
pallid aurora
if only I had monies for pot5 nn I woulda used her instead
turbid tusk
ye it's cause one ace is super inconsistent
novel raptor
wow y'all really grinding debuffers huh
hmm guess i should rerun my evil nature
i only ran her once
novel raptor
yeah i didn't bother anymore getting s med
turbid tusk
triple ace is strongest but also hard as hell to grind out
pallid aurora
and debuffers seem an easy last chore
turbid tusk
ye