FUCK I WAS SO CLOSE 
#Umamusume: Pretty Derby
cosmic pecan
cracked
oblique tree
anyone know how much goldshi shard u got from golshi week ?
sharp kernel
damn
sweet kiln
people say it's 79
turbid tusk
was one shooting from victory away from an extra 2 lengths
sweet kiln
but yeah, you need 20k friendship points to get every single shard
turbid tusk
oh well at least this one beats my old goldship by 5 lengths
ye
costs like 20k friendship to get all the shards though
turbid tusk
ye once you get haru and the friendship slots you can spam shards
oblique tree
well mant still kinda far away
imma just buy golshi cause i want to use her on cm
but im trying to clear the event first
novel raptor
i didn't fail a training today but i didn't get any good skill hints
no maestro no gourmand
this game feels like trolling today huh
misty venture
same
rigid bear
verbal patio
double gold inspo event but both are giga dogshit
velvet glade
ppl left his guild while he still is playing ;kekw:
misty venture
ppl left his guild while he still is playing ;kekw:
lacari is random
velvet glade
his viewers care more about gacha then him 
earnest gust
How you get nikkei sho
turbid tusk
i think it's during summer or something
novel raptor
rigid bear
good juan
sweet kiln
what's golshi mode ? finished 1 run on it didn't notice anything
turbid tusk
free money mode
sweet kiln
except maybe speed trainers slacking
oblique tree
this should be total accumulative right
not in 1 run
wait nvm im retarded its 5m ofcourse its total
sharp kernel
So popular she got 5m fan 
oblique tree
blissful vessel
well yeah because she's a troll
rigid bear
X
errant basin
thats the irl cards
errant basin
mambo is a 2 star
turbid tusk
ye we get a few
sharp kernel
oh good to know
austere flicker
rigid bear
twin turbo is also a 2 star or nah?
errant basin
https://tenor.com/view/mambo-spin-loop-gif-15917688480583893863
i can hear it
dreamy ridgeBOT
@errant basin has leveled up! (42 ➜ 43)
austere flicker
How hard is the golshi mode
shadow iron
Golshi jumpscare
sharp kernel
How hard is the golshi mode
didnt notice any difference, apparently NPC stats are higher a bit
just do golshi mode for $$
sharp kernel
Golshi jumpscare
after last corner pov
oblique tree
didnt notice any difference, apparently NPC stats are higher a bit
is this even real
sharp kernel
apparently, but I didn't really notice any difference
I did get dumpstered when I ran a race where I had a C aptitude, usually I'd be fine
but golshi might have just been blocked so I didn't really know
sharp kernel
ok so eugenics programme go to normal campaign
turbid tusk
ye if you're breeding an ace or anything important go normal campaign
velvet glade
r u guys in here
spare storm
who
novel raptor
i didn't find the golshi mode hard
except that the game doesn't give me good skill hints
just luck diff
kindred pagoda
FUCK I WAS SO CLOSE <:Deadge:1024899449841000500>
Can you show deck for this run
This is still pretty good golshi
turbid tusk
Can you show deck for this run
teio's a stat stick
pretty sure she has as much value as an mlb halo
spare storm
golshi mode is definitely harder
but its not so hard that its bs
with 800 speed 900 stamina 700 power
feels like its still rng
maybe just unlucky idk
but my 3 runs i did felt "harder"
into medium URA
kindred pagoda
teio's a stat stick
Yeah should be easy to reach stats with that deck, my deck sucks ass
velvet glade
i didn't find the golshi mode hard
might have just gotten lucky
this game is all about optimising chances
novel raptor
turbid tusk
usable if you squint hard enough
novel raptor
grandparent material
turbid tusk
man fucking seiun sky needs to come quicker so i can dump
novel raptor
turbid tusk
at this rate i might just borrow seiun sky and pull mayano
i need more uniques to add to a lineage
turbid tusk
turbid tusk
i'm not gonna pull again until oguri and tamamo i think
turbid tusk
gotta figure out how to make tamamo win some cms
turbid tusk
errant basin
time to throw
turbid tusk
time to slacker and mood down
novel raptor
if you have a god run like that don't hit the 20% failure 
errant basin
welp the run is hinging on the 2nd inspiration
turbid tusk
with unique inherits
cosmic pecan
the inspo mechanic
is so fucking stupid
i love straight casinoing whether i get a usable horse or not
turbid tusk
ye i'm making do with what i have
cosmic pecan
i can get most of the skills if i hit them off the card
having white sparks with dogshit stats
is worse than just going -1 card slot
because i end up with straight unusuable statline
turbid tusk
not enough good unique skills to pass around for me
edgy apex
spare storm
noooooooo
astral pasture
kindred pagoda
People who say blue doesn't matter and youll hit stats regardless of blue spark is the biggest misinfo
kindred pagoda
Well i didnt hit target stats in 30 runs
Unless your mlb all cards i doubt you hit stats
Another f2p L for me
astral pasture
TBH
kindred pagoda
Thats why i stopped with looping pointless for me
spare storm
thats why im dropping my load on super creek banner
astral pasture
support cards is the only thing that matters in this game
snow flower
astral pasture
you can literally not pull any horse
astral pasture
and just pull good support cards and you're good to go
kindred pagoda
you can literally not pull any horse
No, you want support cards and good acceleration skills
Thats 4l difference with 2 unique accel skills
astral pasture
I said not pull any horse
kindred pagoda
Marz or takui effect
astral pasture
you can borrow those
Maru is free technically
just selector her
you'll be using that acceleration forever
kindred pagoda
Yes if i had a selector i would
kindred pagoda
you need to swipe
Thats the only answer
Thats why i stopped bother looping and playing cringe meta
spare storm
find yourself an oil prince
kindred pagoda
I got ass deck, ass uma box and shit luck
Not even a single room match testable ace yet
astral pasture
meh I'll just play the game
I'm casual at best anyway
most the stuff I want wouldn't come out yet
I'm competing with people with MLB Kitasan Black, SC and FM
so yea
casual is the best way to play
competing is just competitive swiping on its core
for people with regular jobs it's hard to do more than 5 runs a day
I can do 15 on a weekend if my whole day is free
but on a normal day it's 3-5 runs
astral pasture
yea that's when I'm literally just bed rotting
the whole day
just farming whites
for future use
I just want to get that over with
kindred pagoda
for people with regular jobs it's hard to do more than 5 runs a day
I did 5 daily for a week and then i became aware now barely doing 3 runs
astral pasture
yea 3 runs takes a lot of time
one in the morning, one on lunch and one before reset
oblique tree
People who say blue doesn't matter and youll hit stats regardless of blue spark ...
what stats are u talking about
speed ?
sharp kernel
wait grass wonder just died wut da
rip
he's been living the american lifestyle in retirement what a chad
sharp kernel
30 yo quite old for a horse though
kindred pagoda
I havent hit this number once with speed stam together
turbid tusk
30 is extremely old
oblique tree
1200 930 800 x 400
specify one then
why u listing everything
which spark and which stats
kindred pagoda
Well i tried hitting them with my good white spark ones but they were 1* gut and 1* wit
half tundra
kindred pagoda
So yeah you do need to loop for minimum 6* stam and power on parents
sharp kernel
30 is extremely old
he lives a damn good life eating everyday
may we all be so lucky
oblique tree
oblique tree
So yeah you do need to loop for minimum 6* stam and power on parents
how do u even find someone that said blue spark dont matter
also did the server died
wtf happen
spare storm
I dont think blue sparks are that important
like sure if you have a 3* spark then use that
but white sparks for skills are more important no?
oblique tree
well maybe 3 out of 5 blue spark might be considered useless
spare storm
i think people put too much onto blue sparks being like the god roll
oblique tree
the important one is just stamina and power
cosmic pecan
People who say blue doesn't matter and youll hit stats regardless of blue spark ...
I have full max you still wont hit
spare storm
i think getting 2* sparks is more than enough
oblique tree
well yeah
cosmic pecan
You want at minimum like 6 stam
oblique tree
it just help with building a missing stats
cosmic pecan
Per parent
blissful vessel
i trust xelyfer 
turbid tusk
just need to do enough runs to take one good run
oblique tree
well u always borrow a parrent, or at least 3x a day
so by default u already have 9star parent 1
ur own parent dont need to be perfect
cosmic pecan
im not even on the db
switched my card for like 2 hours
and my friend sent me this from his club chat
oblique tree
well i always remind everyone who ask here and other discord to use db website to search a parent
cosmic pecan
oblique tree
both honse moe and the other one
spare storm
yeah and that guy doesnt know
that card is more value than super creek
for now at least
he should just get another super creek player
spare storm
surely he can find another one
turbid tusk
it's value for a long time
cosmic pecan
so i can farm more FP with sc
spare storm
they are the minority
turbid tusk
tail combo lasts forever
blissful vessel
i swapped it back since i figure the peopel doing actual cm farming
just gotta wait until the strat propagates
and then you switch back and rake in the money
cosmic pecan
im still sad i missed ramp up
spare storm
thats why a lot of people overestimate how hard the CM will be
blissful vessel
or you do some hard marketing and convince everyone its really good and then switch it in
spare storm
it will probably be like 10%~ try hard min maxers
cosmic pecan
then once i get enough gold from golshi mode its time to buy nice nattie p5
spare storm
(i made up that number)
turbid tusk
as long as you make it to the finals even if you get smoked you'll get a lot of carats
spare storm
yeah but once people get their parents they probably wont use it
sharp kernel
if yes, amazing how many people do it tbh
spare storm
over super creek
oblique tree
there is 2 site for db
cosmic pecan
SC technically hasnt had rate up yet
oblique tree
honse.moe also had one
spare storm
the JP database is way better
oblique tree
spare storm
honse is updated
oblique tree
nvm the name change
sharp kernel
yeah and both are not automatic right?
kindred pagoda
3* of course
3* on good white spark is insane luck, but normally you'll want 2* blue stam/piwer 2* pink turd/med and good white sparks ehatever stars
kindred pagoda
But i failed to get med spark 3 Times with s rank
And all good white sparks i got were 1* gut and 1* wit
spare storm
i still hate that honse doesnt have white spark filtering
spare storm
i think 2 2* is enough to S rank
actually nvm
i only said that cause my uma had 2 2*
i havent checked the parents
turbid tusk
1* is enough for S if you're lucky enough
spare storm
my 2 parents
oblique tree
i got my S on 2star medium
turbid tusk
but it's fucking rare
sharp kernel
btw anyone knows how score is calculated at the end of career? i need to reach 160k total stats
i crave for more currencies
oblique tree
well i mean its all luck, at the end it doesnt really matter even if its 3stara, still a chance
turbid tusk
skills, high stats, titles
turbid tusk
18 stars you can get med in like 1/3 runs
cosmic pecan
Long term i think the goal is i farm for 3*stam with ttt combo white sparks
kindred pagoda
well u dont really need 3star pink
Bro the problem isnt 3* its that im not even hitting the correct one if is correct one then i looses 50/50 and its 1*
Thats the problem
cosmic pecan
And then try to get 3* stam on maru with those parenrs
oblique tree
Bro the problem isnt 3* its that im not even hitting the correct one if is corre...
are u trying to get medium pink spark
or getting S medium from medium spark on ur parent
kindred pagoda
Both
oblique tree
its different answer then
kindred pagoda
Well you can only get the 2nd part after you accomplish the first thing
oblique tree
if ur trying to get medium spark is pretty random
but getting S medium u dont need 3star medium pink, 2star is enough
even 1 but lower chance
oblique tree
Well you can only get the 2nd part after you accomplish the first thing
borrow parent
dusk rapids
oblique tree
with medium spark
oblique tree
it does make things easier if u have ur own good parent, but u can just borrow someone
sharp kernel
i placed 3rd at a random room battle today guys (to get my 30 gems) , i'm feeling Okayge
oblique tree
since getting pink spark is really hard
sharp kernel
the winner is 1200/1100 speed/stam lmao
kindred pagoda
with medium spark
Bro ik all these things, at the end of the day my sparks from looping have been ass im just use the peak parent send and using mine 3* turf 3* med 9* power parentxylongz
For my ace
But im stuck with 1 ace only, cant play daiwa front trio
oblique tree
turbid tusk
velvet glade
@misty venture are you coming back in baldies guild
ur the only person i know tbh
velvet glade
LFG
misty venture
<@1250272378739626047> are you coming back in baldies guild
no
it is what it is
ngl he should join with our club from begining and not be leader
we would have 2 guilds
snow flower
Unfortunately we're all quitting today weebow
So you'd have to join lac's guild again
neon trench
tame pendant
pallid aurora
bro wtf is this????
tired crown
dont you get that from racing too much
misty venture
sharp kernel
ooops i didnt pay attention when starting this run and chose all power/stam parents and only 2 speed cards
slowest goldship universe inc
ornate crow
https://www.youtube.com/shorts/4WJvgaamr0I
That's insane 
Horses are nuts sometimes they just kill shit for fun those cats are in danger :
misty venture
velvet glade
W
misty venture
dusk rapids
astral pasture
cursed account
dusk rapids
Hmmm
sharp kernel
all the aces feel awful too, fitting
pallid aurora
I'm ready for the guts buff
wet sequoia
😢
edgy wedge
edgy wedge
I'm ready for the guts buff
obsidian jungle
gaymin
obsidian jungle
austere flame
yada yada
ornate crow
I didn't understand how the goldship monie reward worked on the first day so i lost 1 million
Gotta grind careers until it's 0
ornate crow
Run with 4 guts cards 2 wit cards that way the game will think you want guts sparks and give you something else
novel raptor
nah i'm not farming blue sparks anymore
it's just that i got all the white sparks i need but it gave me guts
i'd take anything except guts and wit
and i need to use specific cards to get those white sparks
sharp kernel
btw correct me if I'm wrong, gold skills cannot become white sparks right? if procced, the white spark will be the "normal" version?
pliant mulch
yeah but buying gold will increase the chances it becomes a spark
verbal patio
wit 
pallid aurora
ooolay
misty venture
misty venture
no LMB kisata black
I need 9 spark power and speed
and stamin
grind for that
then S dirt
S medium
got S long and phace chaser
pallid aurora
so many bricked runs for this
reef robin
fellas I cannot play the normal mode
kindred pagoda
This is the game saying stop doing spark runs
blissful vessel
free pull 
blissful vessel
is there anything else different in golshi mode apart from teh extra monies
like random events or whatever
wet sequoia
is there anything else different in golshi mode apart from teh extra monies
nah its literally the same
blissful vessel
pallid aurora
this golshit would have been so good if I didn't get migraine night owl and slacker - 6 turns
wet sequoia
If somebody is brave enough add this guy
verbal patio
went front runner spark instead and like 5 mood downs
gave me front runner spark too
novel raptor
i considered rudolph before but i thought it would be better to just inherit her unique
tho i haven't tested it
i still don't have golshi ace
misty venture
this golshit would have been so good if I didn't get migraine night owl and slac...
I got bad rainbow
only
cosmic pecan
i have no clue how you guys get like
pallid aurora
yea i got griefed
cosmic pecan
8 skill white sparks
pallid aurora
truly a skill issue isnt it
spare storm
DAIWA SCARLETO
rigid bear
damn they upped the cinematics in the 3rd main story
turbid tusk
fuck dodged rainbows in ura finale
sharp kernel
damn they upped the cinematics in the 3rd main story
winning ticket
turbid tusk
hit pump again instead of taiki shuttle unique
novel raptor
you haven't been pumping enough
turbid tusk
i've been pumping too much instead of shooting actually
novel raptor
💢
snow flower
analog geyser
which training is that
novel raptor
analog geyser
turbid tusk
this run lives or dies on whether i get S from inspiration
spare storm
resting
turbid tusk
charming before debut and free ramp up
novel raptor
that's a brick run
sharp kernel
how debilitating is a B in end closer compared to an A?
turbid tusk
how debilitating is a B in end closer compared to an A?
does not affect skill proc rate but might get you rushed a bit harder
spare storm
-10% wit
sharp kernel
interesting
spare storm
turf/dirt = acceleration/power
distance = speed
style = wit
sharp kernel
cos I'm thinking to put end closer Mayano in the CM 
but I couldn't find a mejiro ryan to patch up her style
sharp kernel
turf/dirt = acceleration/power
distance = speed
style = wit
right that's why people were saying to get distance to S
turbid tusk
it's glue
pliant mulch
first rest of the run insta night owl
3 infirmaries i dont cure and im awful mood
insta quit that guest run
obsidian jungle
xdd
sharp kernel
I mean phone has browsers you know
turbid tusk
don't worry about double circles
as long as the affinity isn't a triangle it's usually good enough
sharp kernel
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=5ZDI4K1lg2g 14k viewers watching tryharding testing CM builds
is it just me or gamers nowadays so fucking tryhards i love it though you have to take hobbies semi-seriously
austere flicker
v chuba 
spare storm
people do that
cause testing for CM is actually harder than the CM itself
cause you know the people you are testing with are try hard
while in CM its a mix between try hard and casuals
and try hards are minorities
so if you can win in testing, you can most likely win in the actual CM
oblique tree
i did a test with my friend using race simulator with CM track
apparently even with 25 debuff, A stamina + 2 gold recovery is too much
spare storm
the simulator only tests 2 umas against each other
you're probably going to expect 2 evil natures
so 3 total, 2 enemies
probably going to nuke 2 golds
spare storm
Yeah thats why try hards test in game in lobbies
cause it can simulate a more realistic scenario
oblique tree
its simulated exactly like the cm strat with 25 debuffs
spare storm
in its worst case
verbal patio
its simulated exactly like the cm strat with 25 debuffs
do u have the link for that one?
spare storm
its still a great tool though
oblique tree
oh i found it
idk how to set it, its full on jp
im not sure if the browser translation is correct
oblique tree
sharp kernel
Man this condor run is the most bricked I ever had never won any runs
verbal patio
http://race.wf-calc.net/#/champions-meeting
ty
sharp kernel
All as favouritrs
spare storm
pretty sure after this CM someone will make an english version
spare storm
see this is what you're going to be going against
she doesnt even have enough stamina
its 1.1k stamina -240 per gold
she doesnt even have the minimum stamina required
she needs 860
oblique tree
nah its too much
spare storm
if she had 2 golds, shes barely on the required
oblique tree
from a test that my friend did yesterday
i got 2 golds with 800+ stamina on oguri
spare storm
and remember, if theres 2 evil natures
oblique tree
with 25 debuffs, 6 gold debuff its still too much stamina
spare storm
you're done for
oblique tree
yeah
spare storm
it wont be enough
did it account for rushed etc
that can also happen
of course, thats rng so its hard to account for it
oblique tree
yea
the worst case scenario will be 6 uma debuffer, but no shot people grief their CM bringing all 3 debuff without 1 carry
novel raptor
i'm running golshi end as my ace
oblique tree
novel raptor
i wonder how it will go
spare storm
you can go 2 debuffs 1 ace
spare storm
evil nature and grass wonder
and then whatever ace you want
golshi ace with potential 5 will be super good
avoid most evil natures
novel raptor
i wonder if getting u=ma2 inherit skill is enough to compensate for gourmand
spare storm
no
uma2 is about a white skill
if inherited
if its on agnes its a gold
Gold on agnes
oblique tree
u mean green ?
spare storm
oblique tree
u=ma2 is a unique
spare storm
inherited
oblique tree
should be green spark no?
oblique tree
oh u meant the same heal as white recovery
spare storm
yeah
its actually more expensive than a white too i think
200 base cost
most white recoveries are what? 150 base?
or something
but the good thing about this skill is that its reliable
probably why its op on christmas oguri
cause she needs x amount of skills to be proc'd to activate her unique
yeah 3 recoveries
oblique tree
yeah proc 3 heal
novel raptor
calm and collected/stamina to spare
novel raptor
@oblique tree you watching the concert?
oblique tree
what concert
novel raptor
nah nvm
sharp kernel
Cmiiw, but the chance of getting S on medium is RNG right?
Need to proc the damn star?
velvet glade
i think winning g1 medium races helps
earnest gust
What do you need for a successful debuffer
spare storm
if you get 5* medium
i think you can proc S rank medium
but it will be S on senior
steal someones 5* medium
can put your own medium for good luck
velvet glade
apparently it doesnt matter if u win races on it
spare storm
Yeah its all equal chance of inheriting like blue sparks
all 5 stats are equal in being a blue spark
pink only requires it to be A or S
it wont be inherited if its B
so you can kinda control it in a way by deliberately making distances you dont want as B
oblique tree
where do u even got information about winning race can boost the chance of the pink spark
errant basin
where do u even got information about winning race can boost the chance of the p...
placebo
quartz coral
man golshi is so derpy and stupid its great
i went through a youtube rabbit hole watching that silly horse
spare storm
real
errant basin
im watching uma amvs
quartz coral
Gold Ship's dad Stay Gold was actually bat shit crazy in a violent way
Gold Ship doesn't like his jockey Stay Gold actively tried to murder his
at the same time the duality of a psychopath https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=CjDwlnOIIv0
stay gold
sharp kernel
at the same time the duality of a psychopath https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=CjD...
He's just like me fr fr
errant basin
at the same time the duality of a psychopath https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=CjD...
they inherited the poop gene
kindred pagoda
apparently even with 25 debuff, A stamina + 2 gold recovery is too much
Hmm strange i did use the english simulator and with 930 stam you cross the finish line with 20 hp left? As the stage is 2400 even a single debuff should be enough to be in negatives
oblique tree
i used different tools
kindred pagoda
I would like to test some stuff out if i wasnt stuck with having to wait for sc banner
novel raptor
kindred pagoda
novel raptor
turbid tusk
are you finally free
kind blaze
any good?
turbid tusk
i think she has a good gold
novel raptor
good for sprint runners
novel raptor
are you finally free
yes
blissful vessel
velvet glade
insane luck some of u have
blissful vessel
this guy is gaming
verbal patio
If you find a guy named "Jastist" in TT (189k total score/A2) he has med/long umas with like 400 stam literally got my pb from him
velvet glade
im tired <:TrollDespair:898626002006208523>
bro
verbal patio
I realized tachyon is a nice parent/gp to spark farm early on, she only has A on Turf, Med, Pace so u have a 1/3rd chance of rolling med as pink spark
velvet glade
good tip
novel raptor
and you can use her unique skill as inherit for xoguri
verbal patio
I should've just been doing that 
velvet glade
problem is that agnes is accidentally my highest rated unit already
snow flower
Gacha demon horse
novel raptor
i didn't notice but is the golshi mode giving extra banner/shoes per race win?
spare storm
i think its only monies
theres an event that gives 2x items
but thats been there since the start of the game
spare storm
you do that mode to complete the event
unless you dont care for it then go do URA
normal
blissful vessel
you can cap out on monies?
velvet glade
it decreases by the amount u get thats what a cap is
blissful vessel
oh when he said day 1
i thought he meant he somehow capped monies on day 1 of release 
sharp kernel
worst 3* power spark ever but hey
oh shit i got her from the 2* ticket
what a good day
kindred pagoda
I got grass wonder the only 2* i was left with, rare rng w
kindred pagoda
new aswell
Mag i did some numbers and, i feel like your lobby was either filled with shit debuffers or debuffs didnt proc, the reason being im rasing my debuffers such that just by my debuffers alone every is on - 14% stam and 2 gold recovery is 11% recovery
So if people are not hitting 930 stam check they are out of fuel last spurt
For 50 to 60 meters
velvet glade
worst 3* power spark ever but hey
this is not that bad bro
corner adept is good finale is good
oblique tree
basicly the test was my friend put the uma that i use, match everything with taurus cup track
and putting 25 debuff active hitting my oguri, 6 of them was gold debuff
apparently my oguri way more than save
velvet glade
25 debuff??
oblique tree
she has 800 stamina with gourmand and corner recovery heal
oblique tree
and my friend said its too much stamina, reduce it to 600-700 with the stamina heal
oblique tree
thats 50% stam cut <:KEKW:629740073977380882>
well idk it was a test using the website that he always use when there's cm on jp server
i take his words 100% cause he's one of those guy who giga sweat tryhard like crazy
oblique tree
learning the math game and everything
and i know the person personally and he is that crazy sweat guy
velvet glade
was it for mile?
oblique tree
maybe the document wrong
velvet glade
well i trust that ur friend is a nerd
but i also trust that the ppl that make this document are nerds
oblique tree
cause from the test that my friend did, my oguri has too much stamina
well its better safe than sorry
so having too much stamina its not that bad also
velvet glade
mbe he used a calculator for jp server
and values are different
guts works different there
wait they changed it in the document
kindred pagoda
apparently my oguri way more than save
Debuffs dont work on that simulation, cuz i have noticed no difference which shouldn't be possible
oblique tree
oh i already said en server using day 1 jp condition, so guts still kinda dead
oblique tree
Debuffs dont work on that simulation, cuz i have noticed no difference which sho...
are u using the same simulation
velvet glade
this document uses the umalator and no debuffs
oblique tree
my friend using this
and he uses example of 25 debuff hitting my oguri the whole race
and apparently she stayed alive the whole race on cm track
velvet glade
if umas run out of stamina they dont just stop running
that is only the extreme case
they usually go into spurt later
can mods pin this instead of the old stam checkmark the values are bit different @spare storm
i feel like this is relevant
thats insane
i would show this to ur friend
mbe the entire document
quartz coral
a uma that has ran out of stam is useless
oblique tree
quartz coral
well they can be used as block fodder
velvet glade
ye theres some tactics where ppl use low stam builds
oblique tree
well i mean u dont need to take my word completely, im just saying the result that i got since baj asked
velvet glade
but the point im making is, ur uma is doing there best to not run out of stamina
oblique tree
its up to you to believe which guide u wanna follow
quartz coral
even debuffers you dont want gased cause all seeing eyes the uma has to be in range to use it
oblique tree
velvet glade
and as a result it might go into spurt later
oblique tree
im not forcing anyone to believe what i said
velvet glade
ye im asking u if hes a nerd he doesnt mind being confronted with conflicting information
🤓
idc whos right
i just wanna know whats right
oblique tree
both can be right, cause its always better to be safe than sorry
and i feel like people overestimated debuff
velvet glade
if what the document says is true
than debuffs are not overrated at all
scuffed screenie but its literally in the image above
sharp kernel
btw what does G1 wins do in inheritance?
affinity I guess from skimming that nerd document
cosmic pecan
chance for race spark
sharp kernel
oh I meant when I browse uma.moe they first sort by G1 wins i wonder if it means anything
kindred pagoda
well i mean u dont need to take my word completely, im just saying the result th...
Isnt the jp only side according to jp version, and they had some mechanic differences like last spurt hp rework and guts rework
oblique tree
the website that he uses using day 1 jp state
which basicly what we had right now in global server
sharp kernel
that nerd document says this which is kinda close to what your friend says no
2 golds to counter debuffer
kindred pagoda
the website that he uses using day 1 jp state
Hmm welp ill go full stam debuff and learn from mistakes
misty venture
kindred pagoda
Because at the minimum 1% debuff is gonna be 24+ hp (2400m)
So with - 336 to 500 hp
And by the end of the race with only stamina req 920 im crossing line with 20 hp left (this value is heavily effected by guts)
oblique tree
that nerd document says this which is kinda close to what your friend says no
kinda is, yeah
kindred pagoda
kinda is, yeah
How exactly last spurt stamina consumption works
From what i tested if you have high stamina last spurt eats more stam
Because the excess hp left at end of races is usually always below 100
sharp kernel
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=NG0bnF9FXVc how scammy is this gigachad japanese guy btw
im asking sincerely om
kindred pagoda
According to victoria he is one the best jp version cc
Its just that his guides are very career only
Rather then general
So the speed wits ended up becoming misinfo
oblique tree
How exactly last spurt stamina consumption works
im not sure how it works tbh
all the test he did was him, and i just got the result
velvet glade
theres a different between not running out of stam
and having ideal stam
because ur horse will go into spurt mode earlier if it has enough stamina
kindred pagoda
So yeah 930 stam is ideal then the 850 is the late start on final spurt
velvet glade
which is also why late race stamina skills are considered bad
kindred pagoda
And thats 930 on end, pace needs like 950+
kindred pagoda
which is also why late race stamina skills are considered bad
Late race are bad because they aren't added to the the amount of stamina uma consumes on final spurt
The rework will make it more dynamic
sharp kernel
Its just that his guides are very career only
i do need to get rank A so I'm playing the wit game
kindred pagoda
Speed wit is fine for ura career and tt sprint and mile
sharp kernel
he's quite honest too he said you'll win against people who don't know what they're doing but lose otherwise
lul
kindred pagoda
Yes
misty venture
cold crag
sharp kernel
edgy apex
wet sequoia
snow flower
velvet glade
hes right
kindred pagoda
Its situational, if you lack good sr dupes pull creek if 200pulls
If your whale then mlb creek
But not pulling for sr dupes now is stupid the next good banner is very far
velvet glade
he says all of that
the stay away is click bait
but true for people like myself who play normally and dont have 200 pulls yet
verbal patio
sterile gate
i dont even got 10k rn
i only got 1 sr mlb for each stat
not too bad imo but skip angle
misty venture
novel raptor
true he ruined it
