I don't even run Wilnas anymore
#Shadowverse
umbral seal
Very easy.
umbral seal
It's not going to be nerfed because it's losing shadowcrypt and RoS in rotation
Could it get nerfed in unlimited? Maybe.
blissful olive
hes also good on his own in a mid range setting 2 lowkey
he can blow the field if you want and just by himself he brings back 2 bodies
umbral seal
Sure, except midrange is still not good
Could that change next set? Maybe
Also, if i were to nerf milteo, I would nerf bibatii, not the core card
blissful olive
what make him a 2/2?
or u said necro to 6 right
if they made milteo 7 they would kill the card but i dont think they would make it cost more
umbral seal
If you were going to nerf the core card in a meaningful way, you should lessen its board clearing potential
Meaning it's riskier to drop into a threatening enemy board
Currently, there is no risk unless you think the opponent has lethal from hand
But it's already difficult to set up that situation because bibatii controls the board
fading echo
board locked 
umbral seal
Super easy.
unkempt lava
The devs improved performance it seems?
blissful olive
idk felt about the same
unkempt lava
idk felt about the same
For mobile it feels better
umbral seal
I'm whaling
fading echo
Portal got good cards 
umbral seal
honestly this kinda sucks
It's impressive how consistently terrible your takes are. This isn't intended to be a win condition. It's a Zirconia replacement.
You will be running 3 in midrange/evo sword.
Doesn't fit in enhance.
The bigger issue is that without an Albert replacement, the best Sword deck in set 7 will be loot
blissful olive
normal evo rally 20 summons 2 dudes for 4
like this card isnt bad but its not insane either
u need more rally support in general tho
umbral seal
No one's saying it's insane. It is, however, a good card.
umbral seal
Rally doesn't need an insane amount of support. What they do need is significant out-of-hand damage to beat things like egg portal & crest haven
Both control decks that aren't taking huge losses in rotation.
blissful olive
this card can be a replacement for that 1 thing
zirconia
basically same function but u get rush instead of +1
umbral seal
Much better at board control. Worse for snowballing with Shield of Serenity.
Coin shield + Zirconia was a disgusting combo. Sometimes I'd coin it without Zirc just to bluff
Since you force the opponent to assume you have it
blissful olive
i dont think a albert rep will be in this set at least
seems kinda weird to rotate one out just to put new one in virtually changing nothing
enhance will be 100% dead tho
umbral seal
i dont think a albert rep will be in this set at least
Doesn't need to be, there were way more broken things than Albert that were storm/face damage finishers
Enhance is only dead if whatever Sword's new finisher is doesn't slot well into Enhance
Since winning via board is, and always will be, a meme
blissful olive
only deck that can win through board is like haven and dragon if they cant remove an intimidate
umbral seal
Even in those situations, it's rare. Winning through an imari/zirc/spellboost high roll on turn 4/5 is more reliable.
Since most efficient board wipes are not online until turn 6
blissful olive
i was mostly thinking of odd haven cuz they have to win with board rng lol
umbral seal
Extremely easy week again
unkempt lava
john shadowverse
mystic tartan
its out
lmao wth
no albert replacement
so its gonna be rally sword huh
yeah we playin rally sword
blissful olive
that card is kinda ass
no1 is running that lol
new abyss leader is really nice tho wouldnt mind getting that
blissful olive
alright lets see if abyss is saved
could be very interesting
i think this is gonna be very good
i really like new rune i knew dirt was getting support
a lot of the new cards look really fun
yo i like this guy he cool
ok
i think this is gonna be very good
buffed burnrite is cool
the 2nd lego is complete trash
amulet got more support but still seems lack luster
artifact seems like it got some ok support i can see it being good
hmm
this guy might be good but 7 is steep
hark is good
adahime is replacing cerb basically lowkey wish it was re animate than pull from deck maybe it will be ok ?
mac MIGHT be good if they dont have like healing and shit thats potential 6 damage
he also gives you potential 6 wards i can see him being strong
this might be insane
but i feel like this is a run 3 or nothing card
thinking about it a tad more adahime is kinda lack luster by herself at least cerb didnt require sevo to have board presence
it costs 6 sure but eh
feels like you wouldnt wanna drop her by herself cuz shes basically gonna pull a 2/1 at best from ur deck
blissful olive
im interested in abyss and rune right now basically maybe forest as well
blissful olive
sadly evo abyss will still prob be the best abyss deck was hoping to escape this shit but prob evo abyss for next 2 sets again lol
sick oasis
so is portal barrack?
blissful olive
artifact seems neat
unkempt lava
Dragon craft got fucked lol
blissful olive
that legendary is like a fucking bronze card lol
who designed that doo doo
im hoping mid range abyss works out cuz i dont wanna just play evo again im fucking tired of that shit lol
umbral seal
Dragon craft got fucked lol
Should I save this comment for when I hit Beyond again? 
Vale Elder is mostly bad because winning via board is a meme and unlike running Genesis + Erntz, I don't think Erntz + Elder is justifiable
It's too expensive for what it does. Even in a ramp deck, he should cost 8
He'll be broken in take two, though
umbral seal
See you guys next set until he returns
Sword will be fine even without Albert
Enhance & Loot got fucked. Evo/Rally didn't. My list already ran 1x Sandy, 2x Albert. That'd just be updated to 3x Sandy
umbral seal
yo i like this guy he cool
Yeah, this is very good for early board control
umbral seal
Good luck with that, lol.
silver tide
Yea im either playing dirt or just skipping
umbral seal
This is how I'd build it, personally. Promoter may have to get swapped out for Ferocious Flame, depending on the meta.
Maybe -1 jellyfish for +1 ocean rider
Hm, maybe I should still put Wilnas/Odin in this deck
I'll work on it more after PT
blissful olive
im sorry man
i think dragon is cooked lol
there is 3 cards worth noting tho imo
both the newts are good id say and burnite is good
wilnas or odin would be better than vale for sure
that thing is complete trash
umbral seal
Don't agree. There are match ups where he won't be good but overall, it's a decent ramp pay off
He's not Genesis, obviously
It's possible that burnite & erntz is all i need, though
mystic tartan
its hard to beat erntz value
blissful olive
yeah
and for 10 mana
vale is such insanely low value
maybe if the dragon it spawned had storm or something its just underwhelming
umbral seal
vale is such insanely low value
Actually, he's very high value. What you mean is low impact
His value is why he'll be broken in take two
umbral seal
But his impact relies on your opponent not being able to clear the intimidates
blissful olive
im thinking of how late this is in the game
umbral seal
I think he's expensive at 10. I don't think he's weak overall
blissful olive
erntz compared to that is like night and day at any point of the game
umbral seal
He'd be a prime candidate for a pp buff
blissful olive
and regarding if they can clear or not wilnas fits that discerption better id say
he can clear big followers and threaten to end the game
he also doesnt require sevo
umbral seal
Wilnas is a much earlier hand check, I agree
blissful olive
like i would run burnite instead imo
9 to enemy followers and 2 to face each turn seems way better
the real question
can he save abyss
is he the chosen one
umbral seal
In a craft that can't ramp? Be serious
blissful olive
he still makes 6 wards and pings for 6 he wont be bad but abyss once again lacks the end game win con
blissful olive
basically the only win con is gonna be same as set 1
we will have to get adahime and hoard ghosts and more than likely run vaseraga and that will be our convoluted win con
umbral seal
he still makes 6 wards and pings for 6 he wont be bad but abyss once again lacks...
They have endgame wincons, you just don't like any of them
Despite that, there hasn't been a single set where abyss was low tier. Not even set 1
It just took longer than normal for people to figure out how to build it (still auto lost to set 1 roach)
blissful olive
nah i already know
i just said above
thats what u gonna have 2 do
i dont like how she needs sevo tho
really limits her wish was necro instead
blissful olive
@umbral seal what do u think about splashing loot onto rally btw
umbral seal
No point.
illamrita is a very expensive replacement for Kagemitsu, but I think she's worth running
This deck is, hilariously, more expensive than any dragon deck I've ever made
unkempt lava
New pack tonight?
umbral seal
Correct.
Quite possibly the list I'm most uncertain about.
Should be just enough gears to make one gundam, if the opponent is not already dead to myuu & scarlet.
umbral seal
All the rally cards except new Gildaria are not good.
Honestly.
The board generators are good, though.
If you peeped my list above
mystic tartan
The board generators are good, though.
yeah the new magus
is gigastrong
the rally is ass i agree
oh yeah gonna try the new Dirt Rune
also
mystic tartan
the 5pp gold
blissful olive
no boobs so id assume guy
unless insanely flat but eh
i think for 3 its decent value and if u play it on 4 you get a 2/3 1/1 and a 2/2
i dont think its bad
umbral seal
Deck's curve looks a lot better without illamrita
Someone tried to tell me to cut 1 Sandy but I don't think people understand how little Sword's reach is without Albert
New Gildaria is literally just Cupitan.
blissful olive
i do think 3 sandy is a lot id only go 2 but depends what ud replace with
sword id lose a lot of killing potential tho
unkempt lava
When is update out
blissful olive
not sure
umbral seal
i do think 3 sandy is a lot id only go 2 but depends what ud replace with
Winning via board is a meme. You need 3.
Forest also runs 3, and evo sword without albert is essentially that deck
blissful olive
still no update huh
ah there it goes
lol
JP site lost the plot
they just like everything is tier 1 and dont ask questions
the abyss one dont even have fake aragavy in it
the fuck is this lmao
they tryna make aggro a thing again i see
alright i got 150 packs im ready to get FUCKED
i wish this card was good lol
sheee
blissful olive
really pulled 3 of this garbage and no adahimes lol
100k vials tho so im good ig
made full abyss have 90k left i wanna do rune later probs
yeah
this card fucking sucks its so bad lol
oh well
7 to storm for 3 and maybe if u sevo u can trade lmao
have a feeling abyss is gonna be fat ass
mystic tartan
rune might be S
mystic tartan
Enhance Royal still on it
blissful olive
JP at their stupid shit again
according to them this is the best deck in the game lol
unkempt lava
MAX WINS
umbral seal
JP at their stupid shit again
You always say this while having worse takes. Also, day 1 tier lists are never perfect
McMillan is very strong, though
blissful olive
he seems like he can see play yeah
he makes 6 wards
may need to start running milteo
hes basically liam but better for abyss
blissful olive
hes alright but hes not that good
thank god he doesnt require an evo cuz abyss is hungry on its sevo rn
umbral seal
hes alright but hes not that good
Your ability to evaluate cards, and also downplay good cards that make a deck tier 1 will always be hilarious.
Made similar stupid statements about crystal rune despite being tier 1 for the entirety of set 6
blissful olive
nah
like ginsetsu vs him shes the better card id say over all
and this guy
he fucking sucks
this card is shit
only way this mfer works is if u holding hella skeletons or some dumb shit
the way mac is gonna work is either you throw it down to clear or stall and throw adahime down the next turn
umbral seal
this card is shit
Hilariously bad take
Play a few games today with sword
Only lost to midrange abyss
blissful olive
no hes shit
best case scenario turn 10 u drop with with a zombie and skeletons come on
for costing 7 be fr
umbral seal
No, he's perfectly fine when played on curve. Your expectation is for him to otk the opponent or kill them from half hp
Which is why your take is stupid
blissful olive
played on curve
hes turn 7
what the fuck is he gonna do into a board
the only way this mfer is good is if u get a free turn to play him
umbral seal
what the fuck is he gonna do into a board
Reading clearly isn't your strong suit
blissful olive
no dont be weird
you storming with that 2/2 and 1/1 into a board brother yeah
insane clear right there
blissful olive
well that was unexpected
umbral seal
insane clear right there
Why are you acting like abyss doesn't have different clear options if the board states requires it?
You're really the type of fella to imply people run "bad cards" because they like losing
Idiocy.
blissful olive
this aint about clear but you are 100% trolling when you say that thing is good into a board
this about dropping that worthless garbage on turn 7 and pretending its good
and aybss lost a lot of clear right now its best clear and one of its only options are beilal
then u have fids if you wanna try and run milteo
umbral seal
this aint about clear but you are 100% trolling when you say that thing is good ...
Its main purpose is giving departed followers storm, no shit a card like that shouldn't be an oppressive board clear. But it has hard removal on evo
You seem to be intentionally misunderstanding the purpose of the card
blissful olive
before you say it yes hark exists but it also conflicts heavily with fids and can easily screw up ur necros
as well as mac
mf u said its good on curve turn 7 btw
just say its fine into an empty board lol
but its values are also extremely poor
2/2 1/1 come on
umbral seal
Yeah, it can be, depending on the board. The board doesn't need to be completely empty.
blissful olive
it has a terrible sevo ability as well
umbral seal
Can you drop it into Cesar or Cami? Obviously not
blissful olive
like garbage
umbral seal
You'd lose the game
umbral seal
but its values are also extremely poor
Again, it gives departed followers storm. That is why.
blissful olive
hes just not good you wont see people playing this after a few days its in the testing phase
hes just 2 expensive
dropping vaseraga instead would actually be better into an empty board
umbral seal
hes just not good you wont see people playing this after a few days its in the ...
Definitely saving this comment, because it's going to age like fine milk
Because you just straight up don't understand card games
Hell, I'll make it fair for you and extend it to a week
umbral seal
Evo Abyss and MacMillan are clearly not meant to be built the same way
If you're mixing both, this goes back to you not understanding deck building
blissful olive
mac is good but hes not as good as we thought
the issue with him is your turn its not active all the time
but abyss biggest problem when running mid range is gonna be clear since we lost our good stuff
no aragavy or reapers etc
billy might be ok but prob not he works against you since in that deck you want sticky followers so adahime can come down
umbral seal
Anyway, I'ma do legs and then play some more Sword
blissful olive
sword is quite good imo
umbral seal
I'll try out abyss & dragon later
blissful olive
and they can actually burn you out which is funny
umbral seal
The deck literally just plays like evo forest, as I expected.
I can also get rally 20 as early as t8
blissful olive
the bunny deadass basically is their turn 8 lol
umbral seal
Bunny?
umbral seal
Cesar
Cesar & lieutenant are basically why you can't let Sword leave a single follower alive
Which isn't easy
blissful olive
this is the like mid range evo they trying to push but i feel weird not including a billy win con atp
umbral seal
Bad deck building.
blissful olive
yeah this happens every set
umbral seal
Every Mac list I've seen so far doesn't run the evo package
Like you pointed out, fediel eats all your shadows
blissful olive
test
.
according to them this deck is tier 1 but just look at it lol
i really like hark its good for a 3 spell but when it will take ur necros its so bad
cuz ur killing mac and fidiel
umbral seal
Hot take, but I think the only 2 drop should be the 1/2, and then you play 3 copies of Charon
blissful olive
raz is really good
umbral seal
She'll spawn a warded skeleton, which makes it difficult to get to Charon
Without targeted removal
umbral seal
I'll cook something up later, but the midrange build isn't bad
umbral seal
People definitely are not building it optimally at the moment. The 7 drop should probably be a 2 of, but he belongs in the deck
blissful olive
nah gamewith always has whack ass lists
umbral seal
rev demon might also be good tho
No, you want a guaranteed raz summon with Charon
blissful olive
but also the problem there
if shes the only 1 u run adahime pulls nothing
except 1/1s if u run those
umbral seal
Yeah, you should play the 1/1s
It's pretty easy to have 2 drops while still guaranteeing Raz summons and Adahime thinning your deck
Like, people have the right idea, but it's unrefined.
I'll post a list later
blissful olive
im gonna mess around but im also looking to see what ppl post too
the win tracker site w/e aint updated
umbral seal
I ain't bothering with that on day 1
blissful olive
i just like looking at things for ideas
like i always net deck then tweak what i dont like
i do think rune or sword will be the best deck this set tho
instead of charon could also run congrant or w/e make wards
then you can keep the 2/1 rush and shit etc
umbral seal
Congregant is better at board control but Charon is significantly better at board resilience, entirely because of Raz
Actually, I got the game on my phone, one sec
This is how I'd build it, personally.
IMO, you don't need much draw. Bibatii is OP and Adahime thins your deck.
I'd rather play Gran for draw than Rev
blissful olive
im just not a believer rn i feel mid range isnt gonna work and were ending up back on evo
but im not gonna play any abyss deck that doesnt run adahime either
blissful olive
it is insane how broken this is
umbral seal
I might cut deluge for azurifrit
Zombie abyss is out of control
Nevia seriously doesn't know shit about card games 🤦🏾♂️
mystic tartan
my Evo Sword deck
mystic tartan
sword cant win against evo abyss cus belial 
umbral seal
I actually have a positive win rate against that deck
Your list doesn't run enough Sandy's and doesn't charge him fast enough
You should also run illamrita
Winning via board is a meme and you literally do not have enough reach
Most decks losing their burst from set 1 is why evo abyss is everywhere
umbral seal
nah im good
Suit yourself if you like losing
mystic tartan
lol i got so many winstreak
umbral seal
Goated card
umbral seal
I'm surprised by the lack of egg portal
And I seriously doubt boredom is the reason
They might not have enough board wipes for midrange abyss
umbral seal
mystic tartan
wtf
umbral seal
I swear I run into the weirdest shit on day 1
umbral seal
My day 1 tier 1: Evo Sword, Midrange Abyss, Dirt Rune.
Can't tell if midrange abyss is better than evo but I see them almost equally.
Portal & Forest are basically non-existent. Burn Dragon is tier 2.
Aggro Abyss has cooked me more than once, but I'm placing it at tier 2 because I'm not playing decks with good healing
And aggro abyss would fold to decks like that.
Haven't seen Milteo at all
The loss of deathslash makes Wilnas have much more value in this meta
mystic tartan
Cesar is so annoying LMAO
umbral seal
It's good. Not broken.
mystic tartan
this dragon 10pp is not it man
mystic tartan
I got to diamond while playing Vale Elder
that doesnt mean shit btw
Diamond is nothing
either way im not a believer
so i just cut him
umbral seal
On day 1, it's the best thing we can measure across the board. Do you want me to hit Beyond on day 1?
umbral seal
Show me any streamer who can do that.
mystic tartan
geez dragon really rely so much on galmi crest
mystic tartan
oh yeah i meet one
umbral seal
Make sword great again.
People aren't fearing for their life totals enough. I'm gonna change that
mystic tartan
adahime asobouze
blissful olive
mystic tartan
yeah best gold this set
blissful olive
you fucking wish lol
blissful olive
mid range gets out valued so hard compared to others
yeah and they playing evo shit
mystic tartan
@umbral seal laugh at him
mystic tartan
yeah and they playing evo shit
LOL NO
blissful olive
yeah think im crazy but i always end up right lol
blissful olive
evo at least gets decent value out of its cards
mystic tartan
also adahime
blissful olive
adahime is decent but u generally never wanna play her unless u have a board
mystic tartan
yeah thats why u play many shit that has last word
blissful olive
mid range looks good on paper but in practice its not that great
winning through board is a meme and thats how abyss wins its a meme lol
blissful olive
yall always say that
mystic tartan
why do u think imari is a problem back then
cus u can just win
turn 5
why do u think
zirconia
is a problem
mystic tartan
then dont tell me winning through board is a meme lol
u literally said it
blissful olive
nah you said its a meme
blissful olive
thats what u always say
blissful olive
u and kunc basically say the same shit
and all he talks bout is how winning through board is a joke
blissful olive
yeah but u fellas basically the same person
see
all u 2 talk about is saying its a meme lol
blissful olive
nah lowkey u 2 the same person
mystic tartan
wtf
blissful olive
talk 2 ur wife
mystic tartan
hell nah
blissful olive
blissful olive
its so bad lol
mystic tartan
while i said its ass 
and it useless
blissful olive
if beastmaster didnt need sevo
then it mighta been aight
but sevo is so contested rn for abyss
blissful olive
yeah her buff is crazy
like she went from discard and dealing 1 costing 10
to just flat deal 9 to enemy and burn for 2
and not needing a discard
blissful olive
it is but its a board clear 100%
mystic tartan
man i miss liu feng
blissful olive
and the burn is nuts
mystic tartan
mystic tartan
yeah its weird
idk im used to liu feng
winning with board is now sword main wincon cus no albert
well if u play centaur maybe u can
blissful olive
sword has burn now 2 which is kinda funny
blissful olive
yeah bunny man is nuts especially if u have anything to play him into
mystic tartan
double Anathema is annoying
blissful olive
i think regular milteo MIGHT be ok to just run in mid range maybe
cuz lowkey we lack clear unless u running beilial
but he can also animate 4 and 2 outside of that
i kinda wanna try this combo forest shit
it seems ass but it might be fun
cmon milteo
ur still good u can do it
bro played hark but vas tanked the whole thing into die lol
i miss aragavy
we deserve him
milteo wet dream right here
mystic tartan
man i love Grimnir
blissful olive
dream was almost real but he scooped right after
mystic tartan
rune really so fucking rely on that alligator now
blissful olive
yeah
hes like better than most legendary tbh
first guy i seen playing this
he seems good on paper but idk
maybe in forest cuz they need hella cards to combo eh
umbral seal
all u 2 talk about is saying its a meme lol
It is. Midrange abyss has reach that doesn't require a board sticking, are you dumb?
umbral seal
kunc literally defend that 10pp dragon
To be honest, I recently cut it but it did win me a game against Sword
I had to make adjustments because of abyss
mystic tartan
bro abyss is a menace
they keep summoning
shit
i cant deal unless i pull galmi
i need Albert replacement man
umbral seal
Just run 2x centaur, 2x Sandy. You're being stubborn, lol.
blissful olive
It is. Midrange abyss has reach that doesn't require a board sticking, are you d...
what reach it got that dont need a board sis
macdonalds?!
aight lol
and they need to be played into a board lol
umbral seal
what reach it got that dont need a board sis
Adahime + Ghosts. The 7 drop. MacMillan literally doesn't require a board. He needs the enemy to have a board to deal 6 but he deals 3 regardless. They still have tyrannical as well.
Reach is not the same thing as burst, i.e. centaur
umbral seal
Reach is simply damage that comes directly from hand
umbral seal
no1 playing him soon
We can make a money bet on this if you want
blissful olive
oh my
blissful olive
if he cost 6 or his evo didnt need a sevo ehd be alright
umbral seal
I do not care about your topaz tier analysis
blissful olive
lowkey this fella is a lot more valuable then bm
umbral seal
Are you taking the bet or not?
blissful olive
brother stop being weird lol
umbral seal
Highwire is good, I agree
blissful olive
u dont think hes good
i know u dont lol
the amazing turn 10 bm into skeletons storm for 5
insane gameplay
umbral seal
I run 2 in my deck, why would I run cards I don't think are good?
blissful olive
nah nah talking bout bm
umbral seal
Bm's reach, along with every other card in that deck, is individually low because the deck has very high board resilience
This is also why MacMillan costs 9, instead of being as cheap as pre nerf Eachtar
blissful olive
macdonalds is fine but he can be rough sometimes he kinda has same issue cerb did
where as if ur trying to end and they dont have a board u prob cant kill
his shit being only on his turn tho is kinda ass
making wards
umbral seal
This is irrelevant because Mac is significantly better on an empty board. Most decks are not going to kill you through that, with the exception of Dragon
blissful olive
yeah he can ping for 3 at least
i do wish he was something else tho
like this is basically liam for abyss
mystic tartan
Just run 2x centaur, 2x Sandy. You're being stubborn, lol.
yeah maybe later
umbral seal
Your wishes would ruin the game. Midrange abyss is already tier 1, and it'll stay that way
You don't wanna take bets, though
blissful olive
abyss never gonna get a strong finisher i fear
blissful olive
this the 1 craft that needs to do weird shit to win a game
blissful olive
cerb didnt need evo either but she costed 8
blissful olive
yeah but she would go crazy in this meta rn
mystic tartan
next set he will save my ass
umbral seal
every1 stealing my genius ideas
Since when did you tell me to run centaur?
blissful olive
forever
umbral seal
In this set? No.
Previous sets, there were better options
Centaur was pointless with Albert existing
umbral seal
Outside of aggro sword
blissful olive
i never steer u wrong
mystic tartan
umbral seal
Nanny has seen play since set 1, stop the cap
blissful olive
u leave my daughter outa this
umbral seal
I might try running Rita in dragon
umbral seal
Already did. He needs a buff but probably not the kind you're thinking
mystic tartan
Burnite is strong tho i hate burn damage
umbral seal
He needs 2 things:
- The ability to clear more than one unit.
- Possibly end of opponent's turn phrasing for the intimidate dragons
umbral seal
I've seen like one portal
mystic tartan
i got a few
blissful olive
we did it 2 skeletons lived
holy fuck portal was way better clear rn
o shit i got a WS im nasty take notes
i pioneered this shit
mystic tartan
umbral seal
Diamond right now is filled with abyss. I wonder why
mystic tartan
nevia
blissful olive
yes my son
blissful olive
Diamond right now is filled with abyss. I wonder why
my students fr
mystic tartan
mystic tartan
haven got the Cesar special
blissful olive
haven lost chalice right so they fucked
blissful olive
yeah haven is ass ass
mystic tartan
well i got lucky too he doesnt have that 2pp spell clear
blissful olive
i win anyways
fella is ass at mirror frfr
lowkey i might be the best player ever
the goat
they cant stop me
WHATD HE SAY
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Without a shred of self awareness, it'll never occur to Nevia why he keeps facing mirrors
mystic tartan
nevia is delulu
blissful olive
see their problem
is they aint me
a mirror assumes its equal footing nah
IM JUDGE
blissful olive
bruh
that shit would be so op
burn u out in 2 seconds
now thats a topaz opinion i do not claim him
mystic tartan
https://www.reddit.com/r/Shadowverse/comments/1syxi7z/what_in_my_mind_after_facing_8_abyss_in_a_row/
Reddit
Clowns
🤡
blissful olive
you know what
abyss missing something
you already know
my king
set him free
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@mystic tartan Had to cut GK for better draw power.
mystic tartan
yeah gran djeeta is great
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I mean, I thought I had enough draw with the invokes, but
The game likes drawing sandy before I can do that
mystic tartan
same
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Back at it. Honestly, I find Dragon to be WAY better than Sword
Like, by a significant margin
Abyss is a better Sword deck, honestly
Inspired by someone who beat my ass using something like this. illamrita makes a lot of sense in a ramp deck
He also played vale elder and I lost, because sword
mystic tartan
yeah evo sword only has unkei and grim for intimidate
grim is also not reliable
oh and cesar if u havent
use ur sevo
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Reason #1 of why Sword players should run Centaur
He conceded there
Y'all gotta make fellas start fearing for their lives again
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Forest so bad I don't even know what their new cards do
They have to cope with a deck that does not interact with combo whatsoever
blissful olive
they combo
and then u bring out THE GOAT
do it
play the fucking crocodile
you whore
i knew it
hitler is alive
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how could you let this happen to me
HITLER IS ALIVE
why is this the most intense park battle of my life
fuck is going in here
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I just realized that with deathslash gone, abyss has literally no way to clear a large intimidate without belial or the 7 drop
Unless I'm forgetting something
Also, I should run nehan in midrange. Too often I have a shit ton of tokens in hand because of Charon
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GET 'EM
fading echo
can't even connect to matches anymore
unkempt lava
Inspired by someone who beat my ass using something like this. illamrita makes a...
Why 3 fate of world? That card feels clunky
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Look up, fella.
Also, fate has the best value in dragon. That being said, I cut 1 for an extra apathetic gaze
If you're implying it shouldn't be in the deck at all, that's bad deck building
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Taking a break for tonight. I'll hit GM tomorrow.
mystic tartan
lol abyss really missing deathslash
mystic tartan
amulet haven is so annoying
blissful olive
a little but i dont feel like its strong either
mystic tartan
a little but i dont feel like its strong either
lol if they got their cards its awful
blissful olive
i dont see much of it tbh
mostly its been
sword rune n abyss
i seen ONE forest
mystic tartan
im gm right now been seeing 2 or 3 amulet so far
it is strong control if u dont brick ur pulls
mystic tartan
of course they need to survive until lyan
blissful olive
scooped on my turn 4 lol
im probably gonna get fucked soon no way this keeps going
yup ran into evo shits all over mid range
need to try that myself soon but i wanna make adahime work in it
blissful olive
baal has been putting in a lot of work so far ngl
u right haven is tier 1
blinding faith is racist
haven tier 0 unplayable
buff abyss
blissful olive
yeah that uhh
whatever her name is there
basically fucked me
but even with all this i barely lost like they struggle bussed the whole way
i lost to burn from gilense and fate of world not anything they actually did lol
gonna try evo version later today
blissful olive
sword is broken
3 free sevos what is this shit
see this is how its supposed to be
sword doesnt deserve anything ever frfr
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Saying sword is broken while playing abyss is a clown ass take
But you already know that
blissful olive
sir i dont wanna hear your emerald opinions
keep that to yourself and leave us good players alone
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What is the highest cr you've ever reached? Would love to know.
blissful olive
how sly of you to bring up ranking when you constantly say ranking isnt a factor
i do not need to hear the opinions of the man who thinks beastmaster is good when he is in fact one of the worst cards in abyss
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how sly of you to bring up ranking when you constantly say ranking isnt a factor
When have I ever said this? In fact, I very often say this is reflective of how accurate someone's opinion is
I would trust Rikka's opinion over everyone else's, for example, since he's the only player I know of who hit Beyond on every class in a set
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I have no goat besides myself
However, there are players I respect
You're not one of them
blissful olive
i can see how that would be a factor
when one is that much higher above you
your ego wont let it happen i understand
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?
blissful olive
clearly i am a much better player for i do not have the delusions that the clown that costs 7 and does nothing is good
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He's an objectively better player. However, I'm still my own goat. Not hard to understand
blissful olive
i do not judge you for your misconceptions
as the man you taught you dragon and sword i do not wish to undermine my student
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clearly i am a much better player for i do not have the delusions that the clown...
This coming from the person who claimed players were trolling for running Yuna in set 1. She also saw play in sets 5 & 6 in milteo. In fact, Rikka is who popularized that variant last set
blissful olive
yes yuna is always bad
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You don't know shit about card games
blissful olive
im glad you understand
one day you will be better
for today is not that day !
and from hence forth you cant say my takes my bad
when you argue something as bad the clown thats 7
but i forgive you !
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when you argue something as bad the clown thats 7
You can accept the money bet at any time, lil' homie
If you're that confident it sucks, it should see no play in a week
Surely
blissful olive
the bet is already sir
nobody plays the clown i have saved you from this humiliation once again
for i am always right
and here we are!
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A cowardly answer, but that's about what I expected
blissful olive
if the bet was accepted
you would have lost already
be thankful i spared you
as i was right about everything
like always
yo look at this guy
trying to play clown
loses immediately
its as if the stars aligned to show how shit that thing is
yeah maybe just maybe
haven sucks
blissful olive
my brain was 2 big for them
they woulda won but i played ginsets into an empty board just to heal 4
put me outa kill range and billy won the game
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The first Haven to hit Beyond runs 1 new card
Haven doesn't suck but a lot of their new cards (especially Rodeo) are bad
The other legendary is good
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Let's see how high I can go
People still coping with Sword. I think it might be bottom tier right now.
They get me low but then they just lose because they have no reach
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I think the win streak bonus caps out at 15 
blissful olive
why are you diamond in GM tho
mystic tartan
People still coping with Sword. I think it might be bottom tier right now.
Nah it's decent except against Dragon
Just hit epic with it
Well u can win against dragon if u quickbladder their ass and basically aggro the f out of them
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why are you diamond in GM tho
It shows the last group before promoting to GM. Only CR exists in GM.
blissful olive
ye why i got confused
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Just hit epic with it
In your words, this doesn't mean much. Last I checked, Sword still had no players in Beyond.
blissful olive
did you end up cutting vale
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Let me check again.
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did you end up cutting vale
No. I recently reduced him to 1, though.
He's bricky at 2, but not a bad card.
blissful olive
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Play the deck before even thinking about spouting dumb opinions.
blissful olive
i mean nah
like for 10 is just crazy and the sevo is weak
i'll make some dragon shit later
i feel like this might gain traction at some point
it costs 4 but the banish and any card is rare to come by
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It won't, because this sort of tech card is only useful against dragon and it assumes you draw it on time.
mystic tartan
In your words, this doesn't mean much. Last I checked, Sword still had no player...
well there is a plus for people playing dragon
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Most decks have very limited room for tech cards as well
blissful olive
evo has the advantage of being able to easily board wipe
mid range cant really play belial
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Midrange doesn't need to play belial
blissful olive
also the healing is pretty important
blissful olive
yeah but your clear of big boards is lack luster
blissful olive
it cant clear arntz
yeah no DS really hurts abyss
they kinda fall apart vs dragon unless u can over whelm them
mystic tartan
yeah that's why midrange so they don't have time to ramp
blissful olive
peep the allure tech
moment of truth
does burnussy fuck haven?
it does not
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Amulet Haven is an easy match up
blissful olive
yeah but i had no ramp and he had lyan out b4 i had anything big
zooey bitty?!
lowkey this shit might suck i needa get off this lmao
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Skill issue.
blissful olive
nah i just copied the only deck thats on the ranking lmao