Shadowverse

[blissful olive]

strongly debating spending 7k to make crystal

hopefully next BP is a good rune leader

yeah putting him in is just not even a question lol

[mystic tartan]

another male

xdd

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we need cute girls or deth

[blissful olive]

alright fuq it ima try xtal can prob make the money back on battle fest

[blissful olive]

bro wish he had something to drain off

punk

[umbral seal]

Think I'm gonna bring discard dragon to the ignideus tournament

Decided on Neptune over Beheading for aggro vs. aggro match ups

@mystic tartan thoughts?

[blissful olive]

well thing with beheading in the mirror is sure u can maybe clear the board but u can die immediately after anyways

neptune at least u end with a fat body + some healing

[umbral seal]

I added Neptune because I logged on to do some playteseting and lost because my opponent drew fan; I didn't.

[blissful olive]

yeah thats how it be sometimes fan early is so powerful

[umbral seal]

Beheading is good for being extra discard fodder but I definitely think I need Neptune

[blissful olive]

beheading also lowering its cost each time u discard is can be really good 2

[umbral seal]

Good card, no room.

After checking various lists, people decide between dragonewt, gran/djeeta & fate for their choice of card draw

I just think fate is better in a ramp deck.

Also a 1 card answer to althenia

[blissful olive]

yeah if u at 10 it just does everything

this been what i was running thinking about cutting zooey but idk

i believe in the nanny

i also have non nanny but i havent ran it as much

[umbral seal]

The first list having no draw means you will live and die by top decks. Zooey doesn't make sense in a deck whose top end is 7 drops.

[blissful olive]

yeah basically

was considering 2nd neptune or something

[umbral seal]

There's a reason most ramp decks only run dragon sign & liu feng. Even the ramp decks that have a lot of high end cards (fennie, genesis and erntz) often choose to forgo zooey

Because dragon sign & liu feng are more playpoint efficient

[blissful olive]

the ramp im running RN was debating cutting 2 wilnas for nep as well but its fine for now

3 zooey maybe over kill

[umbral seal]

Storm dragon doesn't need 3 zooey's. 2 maximum and even that is not needed in storm ramp

It is overkill.

You also don't need Wilnas at 3. 2 maximum.

[blissful olive]

ye prob do that later

through nep in or some other board clear

maybe i should add odin

[umbral seal]

Personally, I'd cut gil for 2 neptunes, Cut Zooey down to 2. Wilnas to 2. Add 2 Odins.

[blissful olive]

i just had her there for early aggression purposes

[umbral seal]

I think I'd also try to fit in a 3rd fate somehow. Maybe by cutting either Garyu or Erntz to 2.

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You already have sloth and jellyfish for that. If you want a better 3 drop, I would just put in ocean rider

Gil's problem is that she's not a threat without evo. She's a good card but people overvalue her in too many decks.

Like I had to cut her in my evo portal deck because there's way too many situations where you can't drop her on curve

It's fine in Enhance Sword because that deck is playing passively for the first 5 turns anyway

[blissful olive]

wtf is this

im keeping it fuq it

[umbral seal]

Only terrible if you proceed to draw no followers and also lose the early game

[blissful olive]

@umbral seal @mystic tartan

u seen this

its in the game thats crazy

[umbral seal]

Yeah, I've seen it already

[blissful olive]

this makes shit way easier tho for sure

[umbral seal]

I'm wondering why I can't use alt arts or animated cards for deck submission

[blissful olive]

in SV1 we had to like

submit decklsist via imgur and shit

no idea

like the deck wont register?

i only have 3 animated gal's so i cant play my dragon?

[umbral seal]

No, it'll register. But it'll show the basic version of the card only

[blissful olive]

oh it just removes the animation

i see

i mean thats fine ig

i thought u saying u cant use the cards

[umbral seal]

I wanted to flex

[blissful olive]

i have a bunch of orbs saved too but

i dk what i wanna use em on honestly

[umbral seal]

Your favorite craft, imo

That's what I started with: dragon

[blissful olive]

im thinking of running milteo + dragon or crystal if i can learn it well in time

but im also thinking i shouldnt run milteo cause theres prob gonna be a fuck load of them

[umbral seal]

Just pilot it better

There's going to be a ton of mirrors

[blissful olive]

i mean its not that simple cause its 1 of those decks where if u dont get the 1 thing u need its easily gg

especially vs forest the milteo evo blowing the field saves so many games

[umbral seal]

Naturally, draw RNG is going to play a factor. However, choosing to not pick a meta deck just because others will pick it, is flawed logic.

No one's going to have a unique deck

[blissful olive]

i mean running a counter to the aggro centric meta we kinda in

like ward haven can hang milteo pre hard

[umbral seal]

There's really no counter to Milteo. If they draw the nuts, there's not much you can do

Ward Haven will lose to most other decks. Bringing that to counter milteo will net you worse results

[blissful olive]

most likely

i do think high roll dragon can run over milteo tho if u get fan going quickly

if they dont have reapers either puglist wins the game on the spot lol

[blissful olive]

paid shuffler

u cant make this shit up

LOOOLOL

18 dmg in hand

bro shoulda healed when he had the chance but he wanted to save his last sevo

[umbral seal]

Assuming he counted your ghosts, I wouldn't play around 3 burn spells either

2 at most

[blissful olive]

i woulda lost 2 but i top decked the last 1

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Also, every crystal rune I'm running into is the earth rite version w/ sagelight

Before, there was some experimentation

[blissful olive]

yeah this guy ran it too

[umbral seal]

But it's pretty much homogenized now

[blissful olive]

what would u remove tho

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What do you mean?

[blissful olive]

well i just using CQ's list

and he doesnt run it

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You take out rune portal because it's too expensive and sagelight can perform the same function

[blissful olive]

hmm

[umbral seal]

CQCQ is a great player but that doesn't mean his lists are perfect

3 crystal spawns also too much

My list.

I only run 2 world of games because I often ran into overdraw issues

[blissful olive]

rune portal being 7 kinda rough that is true

same on milteo

u over draw very often

[umbral seal]

With only 7 followers in the deck, reaved order is virtually guaranteed to draw calga

[blissful olive]

i guess sage is better cuz u can also heal

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I've seen some people run enraptured student as well but that's overkill

[blissful olive]

but u only get earth rites from flare tho

[umbral seal]

You could always use one sagelight to generate sigils

And again, the deck has tons of draw

Odds of bricking are pretty low

[blissful olive]

you can but id only do that if i already have 2 on hand

incase u needa heal or something

i'll fiddle with it later games down anyways

[umbral seal]

If you're truly concerned about sigil generation, you could cut 1 divine thunder and 1 homework time for 2 new brews

I wouldn't do that but it's an option

[blissful olive]

he doesnt even run DT

[umbral seal]

Rune Portal serves a similar function

Despite being more expensive

You wouldn't run DT and Rune Portal, though

[blissful olive]

well if i followed ur shit sorta

cut 2 xtals and 1 rune portal for 3 sages

and last portal for a DT

[umbral seal]

I just think not running sagelight is a mistake

Since both dragon and abyss have ways of dodging shymm's drain

[blissful olive]

yeah ghosts lowkey make shit really hard for them

if they not ahead already

[umbral seal]

I might need to cut Erntz from my dragon deck, though. Too many games where I can't evo her.

Against crystal rune specifically, I'm not sure what changes I need to make to blow past all the healing

Prolly need Odins.

[blissful olive]

yeah if u gonna evo her its should prob be only 2 win

but she can only do 9 dmg

[umbral seal]

Well I'm saying that if I don't draw my ramp, I oftentimes run out of evos before she's in play

[blissful olive]

ye true

[umbral seal]

-2 erntz, +2 odin, -2 fate, -3 liu feng, +2 dragonewt, +1 advent

?

[blissful olive]

advent?

[mystic tartan]

Lol idk i don't play discard

[blissful olive]

lowkey i think newt is hella good but 2/3 for 3 she is kinda slow

[umbral seal]

The 4 cost spell

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I see a lot of people run her and she's definitely faster than fate in terms of drawing cards

2/3 body with draw 2 is very good

For comparison, the 2/2 that abyss got costs 2 & draws 1, and that also sees play.

[blissful olive]

yeah rev is decent

[mystic tartan]

i'm probably enhancing it up and xtal rune

[umbral seal]

I would definitely play loot instead, if I were you

I'd also practice crystal rune, because it's a bit harder than most decks to pilot optimally

[mystic tartan]

i just want the emblem

[umbral seal]

Maybe cut liu feng entirely

[mystic tartan]

i will see alot of Abyss for sure

[blissful olive]

hit em with something they cant see coming

haven aggro up

lowkey how u not just die here

u basically cant do anything for 2 turns

[umbral seal]

Unleash. Rune Portal + windblast for the althenia coming next turn

Actually, the althenia wouldn't even be sevo'd so homework time is enough

The main problem is the Sandy that would be coming after althenia, but the deck has a lot of healing

[blissful olive]

yeah he rune portaled after

but u cant like do anything board wise

[umbral seal]

You don't always need the board to win the game. Obviously he's in a bad position

But it's not a concede angle

[umbral seal]

I like this list a lot, actually.

Very simplified

[blissful olive]

thats close to what i was doing ya minus the newt

shes good but in an aggro deck it feels slow idk

[umbral seal]

Newt is needed. The deck's draw power is ass without her.

[blissful olive]

it just feels weird

like imagine a scenario where u have newt and sign in hand u would generally sign pre much every time

then drop liu and evo on the next turn probs

its more like finding a time to drop her cause the turn shes down she does nothing apposed to ur other cards

[umbral seal]

Depends on the board.

Against milteo, you always need the board first

[blissful olive]

oh so thats why JP says xtal rune is tier 1 now

[umbral seal]

That would make sense if they didn't also downgrade Enhance to tier 2

@blissful olive Animate Sagatsu

[blissful olive]

I might have but I don't have her Alt art

[umbral seal]

The alt art was limited time, and had to spend 10k crystals for. I think the normal art is still good, though

[blissful olive]

ye ik its not worth for me since i only buy BPs

i see wut u mean

the over draw is fucking nuts

[umbral seal]

Yeah, just cut 1 world of games.

World of Games will always be the cause of overdraws because it's a bit hard to control it

As opposed to the other draw options in your deck.

[blissful olive]

this game i draw all 3 and had them down on turn 123 lol

so i said ok lets see what happens

whats this private lobby event btw i see u get some packs and junk

oh i see

u wanna knock this shit out? lol

ok im in a randos lets see

ehhh

kinda weird

guess ima play 15 randoms

oh lmao

every1 setting HP to 1

[umbral seal]

I only care about the globe here but I don't know if I can gather 50 players.

[blissful olive]

so it ends in 2 seconds

lowkey works for me i think this is kinda weird in the first place

[blissful olive]

@umbral seal what kinda shit are u muliganing for on xtal?

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Depends on your opponent. Against abyss, removal. Anyone else, card draw. Never keep more than 1 reaved order, but they're basically guaranteed to pull calga and/or shymm.

Should keep 1 calga in hand if it shows up

[blissful olive]

kk

i feel hosed

used unleashed cause i thought it would deal 8 dmg to 1 guy

like sloth

so i guess this deck just loses to armes if abyss drops it

[umbral seal]

The deck should be trying to end the game before armes is even relevant.

And yeah, unleash doesn't work like that

[blissful olive]

ending b4 turn 9 seems odd

[umbral seal]

It's not. You can end the game pretty quickly as soon as shymm is online

[blissful olive]

unless u evoing and really pushing damage on ur xtals

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Unless your opponent has a lot of healing

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No, you just need 0 cost calga's

[blissful olive]

but technically all ur evos are spoken for

[umbral seal]

You should save at least 2 evos for calga

[blissful olive]

3 calga 1 shymm

[umbral seal]

You don't need to evo calga 3 times

2 at most. You have 1 flex evo left over.

[blissful olive]

ye but thats the priority

i wonder if xtal rune is gonna be a 1 time only thing

i dont feel like this gonna get more support

ngl shit like this feels so bad

cause if im not pushing for calga dropping stuff feels so garbage

turn 7 havent seen calga basically just gg

this entire game was unplayable lol

[blissful olive]

idk man deck feels ok when u dont draw like shit but good lord it can brick hard

all 3 shymm and calga bottom 20

idk man i dont see the vision its just brick city

gonna try another list

[umbral seal]

Not finding a single reaved order either is pretty unlucky

[blissful olive]

im telling u the paid shuffler is always after me

i feel like a problem as well is i cant believe im saying it

way 2 much removal

theres so many instances of just dead cards in the hand

[umbral seal]

That's just kind of how the deck operates. If you want, you can add students and professors but it's probably going to perform worse

[blissful olive]

lemme see who that is

yeah i wouldnt run her

heal 2 spawn 2 basically for 5 its 2 slow

there was another 1

like a 3/4 guy that spawns 2 as well

yeah this guy

maybe i'll add 2 of him

just in general tho like putting an xtal on the board without calga in ur hand

feels so fucking bad

[umbral seal]

You essentially have 6 ways to draw calga. Naturally, or with reaved order. Sometimes, you find neither. Although I'd say you don't need him in your mulligan. You probably need him by turn 4-5, though

[blissful olive]

yeah he feels worse than like not drawing milteo

cause at least u have other ways of winning

lowkey maybe i add odin

[umbral seal]

If you're adding odin, you might as well add 1 copy of grandeur

[blissful olive]

i have seen people do this

i just want a 2nd option as a win con

like for example with milteo u got like 3 options dragon has a billion options lol

maybe i should also try SB wamdus

[umbral seal]

Bruh, it's literally non-stop crystal rune at 1600 CR

Playing as dragon

[blissful olive]

dragon does quite well vs it imo

[umbral seal]

Depends on how many sagelights they draw

Where the fuck is the forest and sword?

Or even abyss

[blissful olive]

gamewith told them to play rune

obey your JP overlords

[umbral seal]

My list is doing work.

[blissful olive]

now that u mention it

i havent played vs a single forest today

[blissful olive]

not running odin in dragon lowkey trolling ngl

exactly why i say that look at this bum lol

[unkempt lava]

How long is the double key event

[blissful olive]

lemme see

bruh

bum ass cygames not even say duration

[umbral seal]

No room and sagatsu serves a similar purpose.

Most discard lists don't run odin

[blissful olive]

hes just 2 good lowkey

like if i didnt have odin right there high chance that game getting dragged out

[umbral seal]

Only way I can fit odin in this list is by cutting fate, and fate is better in more match-ups imo

[unkempt lava]

Is dragon the most expensive class?

Craft

[umbral seal]

Depends. Discard? No. Storm Ramp? Kinda. Fennie? Very.

Haven is arguably more expensive

[blissful olive]

i wouldnt even run fate in discard ngl like its 2 slow

by turn 5 u would be dropping forte or something and looking to end the game in most cases

[umbral seal]

You're not dropping fate on 5, I've explained this numerous times.

Currently at 1700 with my list. Going to go for ultimate today.

[blissful olive]

yeah u wanna save it for 10 if it goes there ik

[umbral seal]

It's not very hard to get to 10. The deck runs 6 ramp cards, which even Fennie decks run at most because a lot of people do not like Zooey.

[blissful olive]

yeah its not bad but also odin isnt either

like if i didnt have him there vs that ward haven id prob have lost or had the game drag out much longer then it should have

[umbral seal]

Odin isn't bad but Odin will not save you from althenia. Fate will.

And evo forest is significantly more common.

[blissful olive]

that is true problem is vs haven if its ward ur shit outa luck

dragon has always had problems clearing

[umbral seal]

Wilbert is less of a problem to clear than aether is. Unless Odin is lethal, you're likely losing after you odin wilbert.

The deck has filene for aether board, but you need to draw her.

[blissful olive]

well if aether comes down vs discard chances are its already over unless u have filene ready

[umbral seal]

It's actually crazy how much enhance fell off. It's now just loot running Yid

[blissful olive]

well its still good i guess but ur only win is like albert otk

yid is a good card on her own too even w/o the evo

[umbral seal]

Super good deck. Easy ultimate.

[umbral seal]

Nah, most losses against enhance have not been to the otk when I played evo portal. Either I got chipped down by Noel and then hit for 14-16 by albert or they used their last evo to double Yid and overwhelmed me with value.

Enhance is not going to assemble the otk in the vast majority of their games. They can win without it.

[blissful olive]

even if the enhance deck dies cause no more albert next set

at least yid and noel are good stand alone cards

did u decide what ur doing tmr?

im prob staying on dragon abyss

[umbral seal]

Noel is a good card for midrange decks. Yid, on her own, kinda isn't. Loot sword doesn't even need Yid, they run her so it doesn't feel like the exact same deck.

[blissful olive]

hell yeah

[umbral seal]

I already submitted my decks. Dragon & portal.

[umbral seal]

Yeah, this shit is stupid fast at climbing.

Outta the 3 forest players I found today, I beat two of them

Really not that hard to kill them through wards

[blissful olive]

if u have filene or 10 mana for fate ur good

i kinda wish burnite wasnt terrible if she didnt cost a sevo for her crest id prob run it

[umbral seal]

Burnite is good, just not in this deck.

Burnite dragon was a thing last set and some people still run her in slower lists

Her crest isn't really needed anymore unless you're encountering haven players or destruction portal

Motherly Forestdweller is honestly a much bigger problem than Althenia

If they play more than one, it's hard to win

They can play 3 of her before althenia even hits the board

Just lost to one guy who did exactly that

Even spent SEVO on her

[umbral seal]

@blissful olive Had to cut liu feng down to 2, but here's your Odin list

[blissful olive]

i was doing this

basically kept fate but took out neptune

[umbral seal]

I've changed my mind on Neptune as it helps with aggro match ups and crystal rune. Also, the tokens from fan heal you

[blissful olive]

yeah but between her and odin i think thats what ud get rid off

cause if a game does go late u kinda need fate

[umbral seal]

Sort of. In the games where I managed to get the enhance off, it didn't win me the game. Odin & Neptune are online faster, assuming zero ramp

[blissful olive]

yeah its just situational

u either keep fate for shit like elf and aether boards etc

or u run odin and just try and end b4 then basically

[umbral seal]

Well, fate can clear althenia but it will not clear an aether board, lol. Depending on what's otb.

[blissful olive]

o right its 4 dmg true

[umbral seal]

It'll kill aether and leave the rest alive

[blissful olive]

ye thats kinda cheeks then cuz u can just die after

[umbral seal]

Actually, it would kill Galleon instead if she evolves herself

Which is worse for you

[blissful olive]

yeah sevo aether is like 6 if wilbert crest at best

[umbral seal]

Need this shit back.

[blissful olive]

that would be the best card ever rn lol

[umbral seal]

What kept it from being broken in SV1 was shadowcraft being way too good at flooding and refilling the board

Especially combined with Eachtar

https://shadowverse.fandom.com/wiki/Demonlord_Eachtar

[blissful olive]

o i remember him

i kinda miss sv1 ina way

i stand on my point that sevo is not a good mechanic

[umbral seal]

It's bad for the game but devs don't care

[blissful olive]

or at least nerf it

like the fact that a sevo monster cant be hit by any status effect or take damage is crazy

mainly bane

[umbral seal]

The devs want super evos to snowball if you can't answer it

So they're definitely not doing this

[blissful olive]

o right i need to lock in my decks

hmm debating on running the nanny version or not

or basically

[mystic tartan]

Man so many milteo

[blissful olive]

a lot more chess rune fellas maybe thats why

[mystic tartan]

Its exhausting for me icant

[blissful olive]

what are u playing now

[mystic tartan]

Enhance

I need to pray they bricked somehow and i got noel

[blissful olive]

ngl maybe i should run ramp instead of discard for this tourney

maybe its time u go back to loot sir

just toss in noel and yid

defeat milteo with one simple trick

[blissful olive]

@umbral seal

thoughts on this? took out 1 liu and took odin to 1 and added 2 neptunes

i wanna keep 1 odin at least for the chance it can pop wilbert or just a body in general

[umbral seal]

Don't like 1-ofs in decks with bad draw power but it's alright.

[blissful olive]

its just odin can come in handy in a lot of scenarios i just won vs forest cuz of it

its just 1 of those things

[umbral seal]

Yeah, I run it at 2 and just cut fate entirely. I'll just let Filene bail me out.

[blissful olive]

so if u were gonna change this

it would be cut fates add back liu and 2nd odin

[umbral seal]

My list.

Fate isn't bad, but it wasn't performing as well as I'd like.

[blissful olive]

yeah basically

[umbral seal]

Which is why I cut it.

[blissful olive]

yeah honestly

i was debating trying gran instead of fate

for better early game draw + a body

[umbral seal]

I'd just run a 3rd dragonewt, personally

[blissful olive]

lowkey blasting rn

it can only go downhill from here

i really just wanna hit gm 3 lowkey

get fucked milteo lmao

I KNEW IT

WILBERTS SPECIAL ABILITY

theres been a lot of crest haven

[umbral seal]

Yeah, it's been picking up steam since Amulet Haven was a bit of a bust.

[blissful olive]

yeah im glad i put odin back in lol

i was gona burn him out if i didnt draw it tho

sevo vora

[umbral seal]

Yeah, vorlalai sevo is lethal if you have enough playpoints

[umbral seal]

I'm cookin'

Maybe Beyond before the tournament tomorrow

[blissful olive]

NAHHH

i ramped and went 2nd

so i had forte on turn 4

and bro just gave up as chess rune lol

[umbral seal]

Shit happens

[blissful olive]

i stg if theres a bunch of crest haven in the tourney ima kms lol

both terrible MU for milteo and dragon

i was kinda debating running ramp instead of discard because of that

[blissful olive]

damn i thought 1600 was epic

what MMR is 1600 tho is that diamond or still ruby

[umbral seal]

1600 is where you start if you enter GM at diamond.

1550 for sapphire.

1500 for ruby.

[blissful olive]

so technically should be fighting diamond fellas

[umbral seal]

Groups are irrelevant at GM.

Players at 1650 are decent but not that good.

[blissful olive]

lowkey im surprised each elo is so close to eachother

like 100 apart

[umbral seal]

Cooked up a different deck since I keep running into control decks

[blissful olive]

not the fennie

[umbral seal]

I keep running into destruction portal and crest haven

Discard dragon is not good into those decks

[blissful olive]

yeah its not

dragon is aight but ud have to pop off hard early with fan n forte

idk about fennie decks tho rn

this still my ramp

the puglist is random

but she can single handedly win the game vs milteo lol

wonder if i should enter with this instead of discard

lowkey if u dropped wilnas on chess rune high chance u win on the spot lol

[umbral seal]

Omegotep gambles have been absolutely terrible.

[blissful olive]

@umbral seal if you expected to run into a bunch of evo forest and ward haven what would you run assuming ur playing vs that?

[umbral seal]

Milteo & loot sword.

[blissful olive]

i guess a 3-4 fuse sin kinda dumps all over elf turn 8 and aether board

[umbral seal]

Like if I was try-harding the tournament, that is what I would do. But I'll just bring what I enjoy

[blissful olive]

i dont even seen no1 playing loot rn

its all chess rune and enhance around 1600

[umbral seal]

Most sword players above 1750 have swapped to loot

[blissful olive]

i needa find a list ig

aight maybe this'l work

[umbral seal]

Seems correct.

But I don't know what CR that person plays at.

[blissful olive]

beyond

[umbral seal]

Matchmaking, why

I'ma gain like 8 from this if I win, and lose 20 if I lose

[blissful olive]

thats so ass lol

hopefully its chess rune ez for dragon

what do u think about the 1 off kage this fella running

i didnt notice that

[umbral seal]

It's fine. If you're going to run kage at all, it should just be at 1 because you never want to draw more than one copy

[blissful olive]

true yeah

back in set 1 i would scam hella games with his sevo too

[umbral seal]

Ridiculous

[blissful olive]

jesus

guessing spellboost

[umbral seal]

No, crystal

When I play crystal, I don't draw all 3 of my calga's within my top 20

[blissful olive]

no fan or anything i guess then?

[umbral seal]

But these fellas do, even without reaved order

I'm not playing discard

[blissful olive]

are you starting to believe

in the paid shuffler

hes real

[umbral seal]

My hand wasn't bad, his was just better

[umbral seal]

Honestly, this one kinda performs a bit better than discard

Having second thoughts

Yeah, I'm swapping

[blissful olive]

it has pro n cons

discard is very quick and its hard to deal with the burs damage

but can easily get fucked by simple wards

[umbral seal]

Discard is technically faster against milteo but it's too dependent on fan

[blissful olive]

discard moggs the fuck outa chess rune and sword

yeah discard beats milteo IF you get fan down early

[umbral seal]

Crystal rune isn't super favored for dragon. They can outheal your damage.

[blissful olive]

cause they cant deal with the constant storm

espcially if u get yube out

[umbral seal]

Discard dragon also gets fucked by portal. Evo & destruction

I don't think there'll be a lot of portals but I could be wrong

Especially at the early stages

[blissful olive]

prob not

i dont even see it on ladder much at all

[umbral seal]

I've been seeing it more recently

[blissful olive]

my games been a mix of sword rune and abyss

[umbral seal]

Honestly, I may drop out the tournament. Shit starts at 9 pm and could go for 8 hrs minimum

[blissful olive]

yeah i saw

im not winning for sure anyways im mainly doing it for vibes

[mystic tartan]

yeah i just want the emblem

or i might not play at all

cus my teeth hurts

[blissful olive]

fuck the emblem

gimmie packs or gold or some shit i can use lol

[mystic tartan]

lol

yeah im skipping

probably going to sleep cus this teeth hurts af

[blissful olive]

what happened 2 u

[mystic tartan]

cavity

[umbral seal]

Round 3 with this hoe

Cooked his bitch ass

[blissful olive]

im busy beating some swords ass

only thing thats scary on sword is noel cause of the drain

[umbral seal]

BRUH

WHY

Literally 200 cr difference

[blissful olive]

bro hit the worst aether board imaginable

still lost anyways cause discard is borderline unplayable into ward lol

1-1 tho now i'll be happy with 2 wins at least in this lobby thing

lowkey maybe i should run crest again lol

would do wonders vs abyss

and chess too lowkey

sick milteo lol

[blissful olive]

tourney a clown show

shit not even working

[umbral seal]

Round 1 taking 2 hours is crazy

Glad I dropped

[umbral seal]

I cracked the code (dodge forest & haven)

@blissful olive There's way more people dropping after the tournament started, lol.

Why the fuck did the organizers start this at 9 PM in the most important time zone

[blissful olive]

im 1-1 rn

but yeah shit takes so fucking long for 1 round

[blissful olive]

lowkey dropping no fucking way im staying up whole thing

[mystic tartan]

Lol

Too much people honestly

[fading echo]

got my deck fully animated now

[fading echo]

it was only missing a couple shinies for the new aggro egg deck so i globed them

i knew there was i reason i got two premium lu wohs on the grub set he's still shit but you can kinda slow down rune and abyss storm slop

you can potentially eggs + axia + chaos legion to deal 15 bursts at 9pp

[umbral seal]

All my globes were spent on fully animating forest and two different dragon decks.

Could fully animate evo portal but I'll do that another time.

(Assuming it's not shit in 2 months)

[fading echo]

2 months is the next set?

nothing from evo is rotating out but artifacts and puppets will be dead so they will print more of that or just completley new archetypes i guess

[umbral seal]

Evo Portal uses puppeteer and orchis.

Beel is way too slow in evo.

That being said, these are negligible losses

[fading echo]

that's how people cope with evo being slow but the devs clearly want your win con in evo to just be sandal like forest

considering how camiscilla deals zdps by herself

so i assume they won't make a finisher for evo portal

[umbral seal]

Cami doesn't deal a lot of damage by herself because she auto evolves higher cost followers. This creates hard to clear boards after she's discounted.

Most of my wins with evo portal are with chaos legion, actually

Sandy is too slow to be reliable against enhance sword and milteo

[fading echo]

i don't really consider board wins that much when i make a deck you can push for them but realistically on paper every class can clear anything

if the meta becomes too board focused they will just run those clears

like when mode started rising after midrange sword was a menace

[umbral seal]

There are definitely situations where opponents can't clear Cami behind a 3/5 ward

It's why I often coin her out and sevo immediately

Mirror matches at high cr will do the same thing

[umbral seal]

Wrong, because there isn't that much room for tech options in meta decks. And the more tech options you add to target certain match ups, the worse you make your overall match up spread

[fading echo]

i don't disagree that it's possible and it happens i'm just saying right now it's niche and gets people off guard but if that became the norm then people would start putting their board clears in the deck to deal with it

[umbral seal]

Basically picking your poison

[fading echo]

like crystal rune running divine thunder now for the mirrors

[umbral seal]

I ran divine thunder because it helps in way more than the mirror.

But in the mirror, it's irrelevant

The mirror is literally who can draw more calga's

Nothing else matters

[fading echo]

the last portal player i saw in ranked was two days ago he was playing evo portal so there's really not a lot of pressure on eggs right now

[umbral seal]

Divine thunder won't do shit if I only draw 1 Calga in my top 20 while my opponent finds all 3 with the same cards drawn (no reaved order)

[fading echo]

right now eggs have pretty much 0 imari control games it's pretty cozy

[umbral seal]

Egg is basically a free win for evo. You crack all their eggs and by the time they try to refill, you're ending the game

Unless the evo portal is not running imari

Which is wrong

[fading echo]

some of them are leaning heavy into chaos legion so they just run imari to tutor it

[umbral seal]

I run 3 legions. I still have imari with 6 of the 1 cost spells

Using her just to tutor legion is bad deck building

[fading echo]

it's just what they do

sincerity is too good to deal with forest i can't cut it

and pretty much everything really it's very versatile

i did cut the draw tho since i'm playing egg now i have more than enough draw and if imari draws sopranos there won't be board space anyway

[umbral seal]

Found a celebrity it seems

[mystic tartan]

Sagatsumatsu is so waifu

[blissful olive]

next BP also needs cute womens

we just had haven and dragon soo

im guessing rune is next one

possibly forest feel like they the ones with the least

[mystic tartan]

cupitan already

Portal BP

not yet

lol

[umbral seal]

Portal should be next but they have more leaders in total than Forest

[mystic tartan]

yeah the exchange ticket got so many portal

[blissful olive]

o ye portal could use a new leader

[umbral seal]

If it's portal, the new leader is definitely Cami

Would be based if it was Yog, but there's 0% chance of that happening

[blissful olive]

i dont want cami

need cute gorl

[umbral seal]

How is she not cute? Dumbass take.

Had to cut Neptune. Beheading lets me lethal fairy-fuckers through althenia.

[umbral seal]

Surprised there's that many fellas who play the game more than I do.

[mystic tartan]

my best cr with enhance

[blissful olive]

nah she aint cute

she not ugly but she aint cute

[umbral seal]

I prefer my women to not look prepubescent

[red plover]

wrong server for that

[blissful olive]

jumping off a bridge if they have cup

ok i won lol

[blissful olive]

heres the difference

kaori is hot daria is cute

[umbral seal]

It's like people in Ultimate only want to play Forest

This shit is so ass.

[blissful olive]

i cant play milteo anymore either

haven is like all ppl play rn

[umbral seal]

1650 is haven hell because the class sucks.

Crest/Amulet is the best variant but still not that good imo

[blissful olive]

@umbral seal

do u know if we get more shit from gm 1-3?

gm 0 gave us 3 packs

i wanna know if im wasting my time or not trying for it

[red plover]

its definitely a waste of time if youre only doing it for the rewards

[umbral seal]

You get globes.

For me, globes are worth it because I use them

Very often

[blissful olive]

oh i see damn i thought wed still get packs too

[umbral seal]

The fact that I'm top 200 in Master score does mean I'll get 10 packs + a seer's globe at the end of the month (although I think you just have to be top 5k for that)

@mystic tartan Is it top 5k to get 10 packs at the end of the month?

[blissful olive]

i'll finish GM 1 then if its just globe then ya im good

[umbral seal]

What really grinds my gears

Why am I even climbing. If it's not forest shitters, it's non-forest mains who I shouldn't be playing in the first place

🤦🏾‍♂️

[umbral seal]

The main selling point for GM3 is the animated card sleeve

Personally, I think the purple for this set is the best one so far.

Blossoming Fate had a nice one as well

[blissful olive]

do the sleeves have character on it

or is it just colored base but glows or some shit

[umbral seal]

I'll let you be the judge

[blissful olive]

mmm nah

id prefer a character like they should take the poster child from every set and those should be the animated sleeves u get

[umbral seal]

Don't agree. If you want sleeves with character's on them, that's what the Seer's Gems are for.

Personally, I hate those sleeves & they're too expensive (3 seer's gems)

[blissful olive]

i mean i guess it makes sense cause this is technically free

they want money for the better stuff

[umbral seal]

To me, the GM sleeves are better. They're not overly distracting and look minimalistic enough for my tastes

[blissful olive]

well ig both can be free but takes longer

[umbral seal]

I'd rather use gems for animated emblems. Better use of them.

[blissful olive]

u gotta be kidding me

im noping tf outa this

[mystic tartan]

1k

[blissful olive]

1k?

[mystic tartan]

top 5k got 5 packs

[blissful olive]

thats so ass

why are their rewards so terrible lol

[mystic tartan]

they dont want u get leaders easily

[blissful olive]

cygames deserves to go bankrupt lmao

[umbral seal]

Ah okay. I should be chilling then.

[mystic tartan]

im always stopping at 100k mp ish

usually my rank is 2-3k

it depends

[umbral seal]

Yeah to get top 1k, you have to do a bit more than GM3

A lot of hardcore grinders

[mystic tartan]

those japanese

[blissful olive]

i keep getting fucked today back to dragon after this

oh god its reset now i need to find a KO match

[mystic tartan]

wajaja

[blissful olive]

be social yeah its a game for everyone do those quests together!

how about you die

[mystic tartan]

bricked milteo is really funny

hehehe

[blissful olive]

its a hit or miss deck why i dont like it that much

i just cant play the game today i guess this is insane

[umbral seal]

Are you hard mulling for a 1 drop?

[blissful olive]

usually i will send 1-2 if they arnt important early

[mystic tartan]

1-2 is very good against me

[umbral seal]

DOUBLE BEYOND

Discard dragon good.

[umbral seal]

Enhance Sword is literally a free win. For milteo too. No wonder it fell off.

[mystic tartan]

nah Milteo not that free win

but its advantage

Discard and Rhino is free win

well good Roach player that is

Forte is a nightmare for Enhance

💀

[umbral seal]

No, I mean enhance is a free win for milteo. Milteo against discard is very draw dependent

[mystic tartan]

i thought free win here is impossible to win against

[umbral seal]

You don't think milteo is heavily favored against Enhance?

[mystic tartan]

its advantage

[umbral seal]

Enhance is basically afk for the early game

[mystic tartan]

but i already got tech for it

as long as i got my cards

my wr is fine against milteo

[umbral seal]

Outside of gil, I'm not sure what other tech you could use. And even gil won't save you after milteo

[mystic tartan]

BUT DISCARD

its just straight impossible

i got 2 knightly ardor,2 loot pp1 also 3 loyal guard help so they dont hit face

[umbral seal]

I mean, those things are definitely sources of non-drain healing. But imo, against a smart milteo, they can just wait to otk you and enhance's kill pressure takes time

I don't see how discard is impossible but milteo is winnable.

Discard's early pressure is dependent on having fan but if they do, enhance can't really stop them from storming early. But milteo's early pressure is not dependent on one card.

Maybe every discard player just has turn 1 fan against you

[mystic tartan]

thats true

Fan is retarded

against Enahnce

[mystic tartan]

cus they left something on board

Forte,Sagatsumatsu etc so i cant focus on heal

[umbral seal]

Also, I'm convinced that roach players don't exist until you start getting past 1850+

Before that point, they're non-existent. Then they just randomly pop up and cook you.

[mystic tartan]

yeah thats true

the last one i meet is ultimate

[umbral seal]

Aight, I lied. Even past 1850, there's still a fuck ton of evo forests

Braindead deck

[mystic tartan]

evo forest is strong

[umbral seal]

@mystic tartan I've run into enhance swords running ravenous tentacles to counter forte

That's probably a better option than ardor

[mystic tartan]

maybe try later

tbh its rare for me to run into Discard

[umbral seal]

It's a bit inconsistent but it's very fun

[umbral seal]

Best background

||Until Lumiore gets re-released||

[umbral seal]

New record

@blissful olive

I found the recipe.

Also

W/R vs Forest is kinda 50/50

Which is acceptable considering it's the best deck

[blissful olive]

hm

ah yeah u added beheading and fate back

i kinda disagree with fate a bit with how much crest haven is popping up rn

guessing thats what 1 off odin is for

[umbral seal]

Crest Haven is a hard match up even if they never play Wilbert

They have a lot of healing (benison)

Fate is helpful in literally every other match up

Especially Forest, which is still extremely popular

I also cut liu feng, because I realized that while the deck benefits from ramp, it doesn't need that much ramp

I actually hate when I draw more than 1 dragonsign

Just ramping once will allow you to play spilling red + sagatsu on your first SEVO turn

[mystic tartan]

Sword is 2k23 for beyond

[umbral seal]

Just play loot

Those the only sword players I lose to, tbh.

[mystic tartan]

im 1999 rn

loot is so easy to brick

i hate it

u rely too much on octrice

[umbral seal]

Citation needed. It's definitely more popular than enhance past 1850.

Wouldn't be tier 1 if it bricked easily.

[mystic tartan]

nah not like that

what i mean is

[umbral seal]

Octrice makes your win guaranteed but you don't need her to win (usually)

[mystic tartan]

if i dont get my cards

its hard

[umbral seal]

Well, against Forest in particular, I imagine they try to build boards that bait Sinciro before dropping Althenia

[mystic tartan]

cant count how much i bricked myself cus i run out of cards

[umbral seal]

https://www.reddit.com/r/Shadowverse/comments/1rwwtzn/what_happened_to_dragoncraft/

I swear people act like dragon is dead unless it's tier 1

It's so fucking stupid

[mystic tartan]

[umbral seal]

@mystic tartan I want to hit 2k but I'm struggling to find motivation

Either I'm getting highrolled by a spellboost player on turn 6 or I'm bullying enhance swords who still think the deck is good

[mystic tartan]

Enhance is good except against face

[umbral seal]

Even in igni's tournament, enhance struggled against everything except forest

I think enhance swords just don't want to play loot, or can't

[mystic tartan]

i tried loot okay

it just felt awful if u dont get ur cards

seriously

[umbral seal]

Actually, let me check the sword rankings

See if I recognize any names

I'm actually surprised I don't see CQCQ there but then again, he's been grinding Rune

I see rikka at the bottom but I don't know what he plays

Doesn't even have his sword deck on twitter

@mystic tartan I still need a game for the weekly, let's play

[mystic tartan]

wait

im on game

@umbral seal im on lounge

fast bro i want q rank again

[umbral seal]

Sec

Had to "empty the tank" so to speak

[mystic tartan]

go fast

[umbral seal]

Playing loot instead of enhance

You bitch

[mystic tartan]

[umbral seal]

Didn't expect you to heal that much

Unlucky

[mystic tartan]

yeah if i dont have that loot 1pp i die

[umbral seal]

I'M DOING IT

Not today, though

[umbral seal]

Yeah, normal ramp dragon still works but you're essentially playing the same deck from last set

[blissful olive]

indeed

[umbral seal]

Main reason why I'm playing discard. It's significantly different.

[blissful olive]

just toss in sagatsu to make yourself feel special

[umbral seal]

I'd argue discard is an actual hard-to-pilot aggro deck

Similar to loot sword

[blissful olive]

next set ina month dont worry

wondering when this battle fes is starting tho

yo kunc peep the granblue abyss lmao

actually been doing ok

[fading echo]

i don't make legendaries anymore i just play what i get except portal that i will craft if i need

i was trying to make her work because i got a 3rd of her from the park chests but it's hard af

she would be good if it wasn't super evo required

[umbral seal]

I don't like evo lists that don't run Nehan. Nehan actually gives you board threat, especially with fickle necromancer

[blissful olive]

true i was debating removing ceres and katalina but i'll worry about that later

and how dare you this is granblue not evo

[umbral seal]

[fading echo]

i could make this i found on the jp website

thoughts from the dragon players?

[umbral seal]

Playing storm ramp without garyu is wrong and playing a 1 off sagatsu just to not feel like you're playing the same shit from last set is hilarious to me.

Yube in this deck makes no sense either. Ocean Rider is better in a non-discard deck.

Not to mention that you will run into hand management issues with both yube & galm active, since the curve of the deck is high and this is not a fennie deck. You will struggle to dump your hand.

A normal discard deck can already run into this issue despite having a low curve, mostly because of vorlalai

[mystic tartan]

pov : ur playing Enhance against Fan

luckily he kinda bricked

[umbral seal]

I do not like World of Games in discard.

Nor the goblin

Shit list imo

I wouldn't say he bricked. You had double Noel.

You also played it correctly by not prioritizing the quest over surviving.

Some enhance players don't realize that you should basically abandon the Yid gameplan against aggressive decks.

[mystic tartan]

if only he has 1 follower on that field ngl im confused he clear my fearless knight instead of playing fan and dealing damage

[umbral seal]

Some players don't understand risk assessment. If I don't think I'm dead to the board, I will ignore it and set up lethal.

[mystic tartan]

yep

[umbral seal]

Like when I ignored your zeta & went face with forte. With 7 pp, you would always be 1 damage off lethal (12 =/= 13)

Ocassionally, I get punished by healing but it's almost always the correct line of thinking in an aggro deck

[mystic tartan]

yeah if i didnt have valse and heal (2goblet ) thats probably gg

[blissful olive]

finally something useful

[mystic tartan]

20rupee

[blissful olive]

nah son

750 vials

big money situation

still wondering wtf battle fest is march almost over

[red plover]

omegotep is really the only way to be able to win as haven in take two

[blissful olive]

[fading echo]

group A

[blissful olive]

i guess ima run GP b4 bed

[blissful olive]

battle fes on the 30th

late march btw bitch its april

[blissful olive]

lol

[umbral seal]

Could not get into Group A this time around. Oh well.

[blissful olive]

same

i ran it all 4 times tho anyways just for the extra rewards

i hope battle fes has roughly same shit as before

just wanna save shit up for next set atp

[red plover]

this is what it takes to have a chance against forest in take two

[mystic tartan]

Lul

[umbral seal]

I don't know how you don't brick with this many 8 drops

That said, if you don't get rushed down, it's almost impossible to lose.

[red plover]

a little 5/5 follower gave them to me

but he still pretty much cleared my board every turn until the last one

[umbral seal]

Forest not even close to the best class in T2 either

[red plover]

the value their lower rarity cards have is pretty high though

but also haven having a pretty bad early game and just having the worst take two season this time doesnt help

so annoying that this game has no way of showing you how much you won or lost against a class this season or anything at all

[blissful olive]

why did u have 4 viras

[umbral seal]

Man, there's a serious wall at 2k CR

I can't get any higher

[blissful olive]

le mao

[umbral seal]

Underrated card.

Pretty hard to use correctly but it's insane when used right.

[mystic tartan]

True

[fading echo]

when they think you're playing eggs and then you shank them

[mystic tartan]

Elno sabe

[umbral seal]

I've encountered the hybrid list a few times. Pure eggs or pure evo is better imo.

Egg running 2 copies isn't the worst idea, though.

[blissful olive]

BP leader not bad

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might buy this

[blissful olive]

rune kinda cheeks rn tho

lowkey might bring back dirt for the 1 time

[umbral seal]

Crystal is literally tier 1 and spellboost, while not as popular in high cr, is still tier 2.

Acting like Rune sucks right now is extremely far from reality.

In comparison, Dirt Rune sees virtually no play because it's gotten no new tools to help it compete.

[blissful olive]

SB is aight but xtal being tier 1 is lowkey cap

dirt rune will get support next set tho its about to cycle around

[umbral seal]

It is not. You're saying this because your personal results with it are garbage

Look at the leaderboard.

Your anecdotal evidence is meaningless in comparison

That's less so meant as an insult and more as an objective fact

[blissful olive]

nah it just facts n u agreed with me that it has problems

like when i told u how ur hand can just get flooded with removal and u cant do anything about it

[umbral seal]

The only problem is a piloting problem. Ever since editing my list to the version with Gran & Student, I've had no issues

[blissful olive]

its win con is also very very conditional

like extremely strict

[umbral seal]

The win con is very reliable despite looking like RNG

Again, literally look at the leaderboard. The only class even remotely falling behind is portal

[blissful olive]

its lowkey worse than not drawing milteo

cause at least u can win without him

[umbral seal]

Crystal Rune has significantly more draw power than Milteo

You can reliably draw more than half your deck every game with crystal

[blissful olive]

yeah and sometimes u just dont see caga

[umbral seal]

Very unlikely with both reaved order and the other card draw options in the deck

It is still possible? Sure, but unlikely.

[blissful olive]

xtal is pretty good at the end of the day sure but its not THAT crazy lets calm down on that 1 lol

[umbral seal]

Not finding calga with crystal rune is less likely than sword not drawing yid/rose or milteo not drawing milteo

And the reason is because that deck has a lot of draw

Particularly, reaved order

Which specifically fishes rune followers

Of which, you run very few of in the deck

[umbral seal]

No one said it's "that crazy". It's tier 1. Anyone good at the game will tell you that

Try saying it's not tier 1 to anyone on reddit or who actually plays in high CR

[blissful olive]

sure but is also not very hard to beat either compared to the other decks

[umbral seal]

Acting like this is my lone opinion is hilarious

[blissful olive]

id put chess rune slightly bellow or on par with forest

[umbral seal]

And what CR do you play at to believe this?

It's a very strong deck, especially above 1850

[blissful olive]

based on how easy it is to deal with the deck

[umbral seal]

You're the only person disputing this because you suck, it's that simple

[blissful olive]

like if u cant clear caga boards and shit then yeah ur gonna die but if they cant make a board ur not gonna lose that easily

[umbral seal]

Like I said, have this argument with literally anyone else

And see if you get a different response

[blissful olive]

how am i wrong

[umbral seal]

Clearing calga is irrelevant

[blissful olive]

is it really that hard to clear caga baords

really

[umbral seal]

Calga drops, you get his spell, you build faith and you nuke

Him staying otb is irrelevant

[blissful olive]

the whole point is to rng burn them to death while widdling them down with the 1/1s

but if they cant do that

[umbral seal]

Thinking he needs to stay on the board in order to win is a massive misunderstanding of how the deck works

[blissful olive]

no

i didnt say anything about staying on board i said if cant clear u die

if there only chance at winning is burning u then its not that hard to deal with

like that fake abyss deck i made does pretty well vs rune

cause of how many options it has

[blissful olive]

yes

[umbral seal]

This statement implies that he needs to stay on the board for him to have relevance

[blissful olive]

no

[umbral seal]

Again, clearing calga is easy. That is irrelevant

[blissful olive]

rng burn 1/1s blah blah dont cler caga die

come on

[umbral seal]

You can very easily die after calga is cleared, lol. Again, you don't understand how the deck works

When you're saying stupid shit like this

[blissful olive]

im telling u the deck just isnt that hard to deal with unless they have some insane high roll its very managable

why are u arguing that its not

[umbral seal]

1. Playing against people who are not dogshit at the game
2. The leaderboard. Rune is top 3, and guess what they're all playing?

[blissful olive]

who cares lol fuck the leaderboard lol

it doesnt make what i said any less true

[mystic tartan]

crystal rune is tier 1

[umbral seal]

The leaderboard actually gives a good insight into what's the best and what's falling behind. It's why people are asking for portal buffs

[blissful olive]

ya i know it is

i didnt say it wasnt

[mystic tartan]

whatever u say dont enable that shit

like that 1pp draw 2 runecraft follower

is making it not RNG

[blissful olive]

the leaderboard doesnt change what i said u know im right

[umbral seal]

"xtal being tier 1 is lowkey cap" - you must not speak proper English to not understand how this is literally saying that

And you are objectively wrong.

[blissful olive]

so because its apparently all over the leaderboard me saying its not that hard to deal with the deck is wrong?

yeah idk about that 1

[mystic tartan]

if u cant play xtal rune properly then thats u problem if u say enhance sword not tier 1 i agree tho cus it loses hard against milteo abyss and dragon

[umbral seal]

"all over the leaderboard" is different from where they stand in comparison to everyone else

And compared to everyone else, they are top 3

[blissful olive]

ok cool

[umbral seal]

You're arguably anecdotal evidence because you suck and I'm arguing numbers

[blissful olive]

ur numbers dont matter

[umbral seal]

Literally what I told this fella lol.

Enhance Sword is weird. It's like tier 1.5 - it's not purely tier 1 because it only beats Evo Forest.

[mystic tartan]

i was cucked by a milteo abyss during gran prix

[umbral seal]

But it's not exactly tier 2 because it beats a lot of tier 2 decks

[blissful olive]

i said the deck isnt that hard to play against and ur telling me '' no actually the deck is so super good nobody can ever beat it frfr''

[umbral seal]

When did I ever say no one can beat it? lol

[mystic tartan]

even Spellboost Rune cuck enhance so much

[blissful olive]

just accept the fact that its not the hardest thing on the planet to beat