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#Shadowverse
blissful olive
oh u get both on i see
i might run rune otk as well or at least make it
i think i have everything
blissful olive
discard doesnt feel that good sadly but i kinda figured
prob gonna make abyss or haven next
right now id say dragon gets fucked by forest for sure
non otk rune has hella good tempo too
mystic tartan
elf strong
blissful olive
elf gay
gay elves
havent made another deck yet gonna just wait a lil bit
i am leaning towards abyss tho just cause armes is funny
hopefully someone comes up with a decent mid range like dragon list
rn im running call it discard aggro i guess idk
but not running a deck with ernts feels weird
mystic tartan
enhance sword cant win against otk oguri
blissful olive
lol
yeah
forest can cause u have a million wards all the time
i think forest shits on dragon and rune so far
running this atm but it def could be better idk
i do want to try a more mid to late game version
paid shuffler strikes again
not even playing that lol
lmao
im gonna run 1 at least just for the chance of this happening
blissful olive
yep
umbral seal
You can start doing it as early as turn 3 and they have ward
blissful olive
wall of 3/3 wards for free is insanity
but its not like super broken its just really good
the odin otk is broken and should get hot fixed probably
umbral seal
enhance sword cant win against otk oguri
You'd have to run Zircs if loyal guard isn't preventing the otk
mystic tartan
You'd have to run Zircs if loyal guard isn't preventing the otk
yeah but ur dead anyway cus they can otk u turn 6 
if no brick
u can win if they bricked
its so frustrating
umbral seal
I'm saying the otk can be prevented by 1 ward, it's 16 damage in that case, no?
Or can they do 20 through ward?
mystic tartan
they just evolve the golem girl
umbral seal
The clip on reddit seems like a high roll, honestly
mystic tartan
its never gonna win against ward haven tho
red plover
wasnt the rune odin thing, already a thing last set? what changed about it now
blissful olive
better i guess?
i dont recall it being a thing tho nobody talked about it or ran it or anything
red plover
what card made it better
red plover
oh I see
blissful olive
yeah if ur aggro u can win but if not lmao
people want this shit nerfed already but i feel like its not happening
cygames dont give a shit
but it also has bad MU too so eh but still gonna be annoying seeing it 24/7
mystic tartan
yeah aggro u win but u lose to other shit
blissful olive
yeah my discard aggro is good on rune but on other decks it turns into the win by turn 7/8 or die
umbral seal
wasnt the rune odin thing, already a thing last set? what changed about it now
That deck ran institute, tablet and way more followers
In that list, it only runs 3.
red plover
yea, its way more consistent now compared to before
umbral seal
Basically, as soon if you draw a follower that's not odin, it's a coin flip
If you draw both, odin is guaranteed
umbral seal
yeah im not playing enhance anymore
It's that bad?
mystic tartan
its bad against otk odin
blissful olive
yeah enhance is more mid range than anything
abyss is prob worst MU vs rune now
abyss cant do fucking anything vs it
mystic tartan
well aggro abyss can
blissful olive
i mean yeah but
who tf wants to play that
we need men
shirtless men
with sunglasses
mystic tartan
cqcq enhance sword
umbral seal
not the fighter dood
He's using fighter because he wants more playable 2 drops that don't dilute what Rose can pull
It's pretty smart, actually
I'm going to copy that instead of playing ruthless soldier
umbral seal
That's a sword card. I actually purchased that alt art.
But you can still get soldiers from the 4 drop
blissful olive
mystic tartan
up to u
blissful olive
i think u already made up ur mind lol
umbral seal
If I made up my mind, I wouldn't be asking
blissful olive
oh ho ho
umbral seal
Guess I'll take the Lacari character
How have I still not pulled a single copy of the cat
blissful olive
i mean
this is 70 packs and i got complete dog shit
1 cat lol
not being able to vial stuff is cancer
umbral seal
@blissful olive
umbral seal
lol
blissful olive
we dont play fighter in this house
i need to find a decent uhh
dragon list
the full discard package is not good but a few things from it are ok
umbral seal
The problem with discard right now is that there are a lot of enablers but no good payoffs
Like imagine if dragon had 2 more ramp cards but no Erntz
A good dragon list is probably identical from the last set
umbral seal
cqcq enhance sword
Honestly, with all the runes, maybe I do need loyal guard
mystic tartan
Honestly, with all the runes, maybe I do need loyal guard
blissful olive
the 0/2 bane is ok at best
and the uhh spilling red is good
but thats about it roughly
probably gonna be a B tier deck at best
sagatsu is decent but for costing 7 shes not that crazy
i might make evo forest next i cant make all of it tho id have to fill in a few things
umbral seal
sagatsu is decent but for costing 7 shes not that crazy
She's the best discard enabler, despite not being the best storm unit in dragon's arsenal
blissful olive
hmm like
yes she is but its also not that good
like turn 7 u drop her only if ur going face
umbral seal
You won't be saying that when (or if) Cygames prints better discard pay offs
blissful olive
if instead of putting spilling red into ur hand she had her own destruction effect
it would be so much better
umbral seal
Uh, no. The only thing needed to make her better is better pay offs. That's literally it. If cygames re-printed noir & blanc from SV1, she'd be broken
blissful olive
she has no pay off tho is the thing
blissful olive
like on turn 7 u cant do anything with her except swing face
umbral seal
Correct. That is not because of the card itself. It's because discard as a whole is still not properly supported.
blissful olive
its one of those things where they introduce a new archetype
but its not a complete package
so it sucks until it gets the rest
umbral seal
Assuming it ever does. Truth package in Rune never did.
The most representation that archetype got was Raio being splashed in earth rite.
blissful olive
yeah like evo forest is really good now because it has a full package
i wanna play abyss actually but i feel like im wasting my time cause of rune
you just lose to it
blissful olive
pray they dont get the draws lol
ur clock is turn 6/7 god speed
@umbral seal
thoughts?
umbral seal
umbral seal
<@267522380904136716>
-1 lyria, +1 erntz
blissful olive
i feel that ya
1 doesnt feel enough
do u think theres a chance in hell they hot fix otk rune ?
every1 complaining about it on twitter but seeing it just lose to a random ward lol
umbral seal
do u think theres a chance in hell they hot fix otk rune ?
Unlikely but we'll see
blissful olive
beat the boss thank fuck
these things are so annoying when they start going off
now i can get the kandima sleeves
this never happened before
but im vs otk rune so it doesnt matter lmao
mystic tartan
do u think theres a chance in hell they hot fix otk rune ?
i fucking hope they fix it
blissful olive
it has a good chance of bricking or just losing tho as well
so its not like an always gg i win kinda thing
i hope it gets changed too but idk
umbral seal
umbral seal
Not difficult but evo forest is difficult
blissful olive
yea
they have a lot of easy board clear too
i hope someone cooks with abyss but its looking grim rn
umbral seal
so its not like an always gg i win kinda thing
Turn 6-8 otks shouldn't exist imo
We're basically speedrunning late game SV1
blissful olive
i agree
umbral seal
If they don't hotfix it
blissful olive
i just dont trust them to do it is all
umbral seal
Neither do I
blissful olive
or it might be one of those things where like
someone wins a tourney with it etc where they finally take a look at it
blissful olive
ench sword looking decent
mystic tartan
man this new elf lego is cinema
blissful olive
bruh can we get abyss yet
every1 si like oh yeah abyss aint so bad yeah eyah play abyss its fine
it fucking sucks lmao
every set this thing is fucking ass lmaoo
blissful olive
yeah
thats the main reason im against making abyss right now tbh
i feel like if rune isnt fixed
its gonna force this like weird aggro meta
i have been hearing evo portal is pretty good
havent seen it yet tho
umbral seal
its gonna force this like weird aggro meta
I'd say evo forest is even better than aggro
umbral seal
I have had Rune down to 5 hp on turn 6 and I died the next turn
Because I had no wards up
blissful olive
yep
this is just not good for the game at all lol
but if they do fix it i dont think its gonna be a for a while even so this is our life now
mystic tartan
alright evo forest is just cinema
blissful olive
umbral seal
gimmie something i can use man damn
Amulet Haven is good, though
So is Crystal Rune, it seems. Just lost to it.
blissful olive
xtal rune seems fine yeah
amulet haven idk
i havent seen any1 doing well yet
im gonna make 2 more decks im pre sure 1 is sword
my 3rd will be haven or abyss evo abyss doesnt seem 2 bad but idk
X
lol
umbral seal
Tbh, I don't even think loot sword could outspeed otk rune
blissful olive
ud need aggro with zirconia to run that shit
caus they pop off turn 6 or 7 latest
mystic tartan
bro how to win against ward haven using crystal rune
blissful olive
le mao
u knwo what xtal feels like
playing old white weenie in mtg
u swarm but never have any power house to close out etc
umbral seal
Aight, Forest is clearly tier 1
The most obvious tier 1 deck right now.
OTK Rune is also tier 1 but if the devs are smart, they'll patch it out of existence
Enhance Sword feels like a tier 2 deck
Dragon fell off the face of the earth, but that's probably because they can't ramp faster than Rune can kill them
blissful olive
fiddling with this rn
3 zooey might be 2 extra
but im running pug because of rune
umbral seal
Pugilist is one of the best discard enablers, you should be running 3.
umbral seal
3 Zooey's is unnecessary. In a discard deck, you could honestly cut her entirely. I also don't think you need manual copies of spilling red when sagatsu gives you them, and you shouldn't need them before she's online.
Don't see fan or yube's in here either. They should be.
blissful olive
zooey can also shield from otk one of the reasons i have her
umbral seal
Rune is going to kill you before you get to 10 pp
You'd have to high roll your ramp for that to not happen
blissful olive
ye im just fiddling with diff builds its fine
umbral seal
Discard dragon is honestly very close to being busted. They just need discard pay offs. Or Lumiore, but everyone would hate that.
blissful olive
yeah right now the win con is still shit like erntz and genesis
or get lucky going face with forte or sagat
i think dragon is still good right now
umbral seal
Discard dragon is probably the best one but it has to be an aggressive list
The other ramp decks are too slow in this meta imo
I grinded to 5k mp today and only saw 2 dragons
Both were discard
sick oasis
<@704927885583974410> try this <:kek:1092598898490613760>
i'll try later
umbral seal
It's honestly not a bad deck
Obviously treat the 10 drop like you would treat d-climb (keep it in the mull)
blissful olive
my discard list for aggro is fine but like
vs forest or ward haven ur not winning
umbral seal
Where are these ward havens y'all are talking about? I met like 3 havens today. 2 were amulet. 1 was ward.
Legit, diamond master right now is either evo forest mirrors or otk runes
Some enhance swords
sick oasis
anyone fought armes yet?
umbral seal
No
blissful olive
nah
umbral seal
Actually, once. I actually fought bjthebrave on ladder
blissful olive
abyss is gonna have a very low play %
umbral seal
He was running a midrange list that runs 1 drops, cerb and armes
I killed him though
He probably has the right idea, though. Running a control list with Armes is going to suck right now because Rune is warping the meta too much
sick oasis
hmm interesting
umbral seal
Yeah, that wouldn't be enough unless they drew all their copies of congregant
sick oasis
based from what y'all conversations
umbral seal
Evo Forest & Ward Haven work because they have a lot of wards
sick oasis
i'm guessing evo forest is the safest to build rn
blissful olive
2 copies is enough unless they have all 3 stormy blast
umbral seal
i'm guessing evo forest is the safest to build rn
Very.
umbral seal
2 copies is enough unless they have all 3 stormy blast
The deck has a great draw engine. They will get all the removal they need, lol.
umbral seal
I'd say more often than not. It wouldn't be very popular if it wasn't consistent.
We'll see how the meta develops, though. Most people are gravitating toward Evo Forest right now.
blissful olive
ofc its broken lol
that and sword are gonna be most popular baring they dont fix otk
umbral seal
@sick oasis
umbral seal
Anti synergy with the deck. If you checked reddit, you'd see my original build has Yuel.
blissful olive
ah
umbral seal
Literally no evo forest mirrors except for 1 guy ran Yuel
The reason is because it auto evolves Althenia
And you don't want to do that
Without Yuel, I can often invoke sandy by like turn 6/7
And it's because of the springbloom fairy spam
Alfheimr could be Vyrn but I haven't felt the need to do that. It's also so easy to charge your ssba's now
blissful olive
alfheimer is also such an easy otk blocker
umbral seal
blissful olive
hmm
im 2k vials off making forest myself
but idk if i wanna lol
cause instead i could make sword and soemthing else eh
umbral seal
Are you acting like Sword is better or you simply don't enjoy Forest?
blissful olive
Are you acting like Sword is better or you simply don't enjoy Forest?
cost efficiency
blissful olive
yeah but then next set is out
and its cooked
i have like 30k rn i can make forest or i can make abyss and haven or sword etc
cause w/e i do next is what i got for the rest of this set
i mean i have otk built sure but i dont wanna play it
my plan is 2 make whatever i make now and then save for next set which im guessing is either in march or april
umbral seal
I like otk decks but this one is too degenerate.
blissful olive
do u know the timeline for next set btw?
nocturne karmaBOT
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blissful olive
im assuming april
umbral seal
Yeah, should be late April. Probably the 24th.
unkempt lava
I made this evolve deck
It's so clunky
I think I'm removing the lance
Cupitan plus sandiphon and the faith one cost is 17 dmg face basically
Not fun
blissful olive
does that nerf kill the deck btw?
mystic tartan
does that nerf kill the deck btw?
yeah almost got one shotted by it
but bro didnt have another odin
so only 4
blissful olive
but i bet this will see a decline of it on ladder
they shoulda made it rune only followers tbh
umbral seal
I made this evolve deck
Very bad list. Lance is good. Yuel is anti synergistic with Althenia.
You should be abusing the cards that give you springbloom fairies early.
umbral seal
<@704927885583974410>
umbral seal
I'd rather have Skipper for that purpose
blissful olive
who da fwip is skipper
umbral seal
...it's literally in the card name.
umbral seal
From last set.
umbral seal
Skipper is better on an empty board, has better synergy with Aria and is better at removing tall boards with SEVO
There is no contest here
blissful olive
for building a board sure for clear no
yuel just does it
3 1/1s vs 8 damageon the field
umbral seal
Read Skipper's SEVO. Yuel has a better fanfare, sure. That's irrelevant when compared to the other points I mentioned.
umbral seal
I do, because there are situations where there are ridiculously tall boards
Notably against ward and amulet haven, actually. And I don't always have althenia.
blissful olive
you would still do ur boss monster over this
unless for whatever reason ur draws are so bad u have to do this
umbral seal
If you want to use Yuel, feel free. I promise you won't have better success than me with the deck.
Would you like to bet on it?
umbral seal
Nope, trash. Also, I think I need to cut Alfheimr for Comet Drive
The evo forest mirror is too ass without it
blissful olive
alf is kinda losing steam maybe cause no more otk
umbral seal
I also like it for pushing damage but I just need more ways to snipe 3 hp
For this chick especially
blissful olive
u mean 3/3 fellas
umbral seal
Probably the strongest bronze card in the game right now
umbral seal
No clue what you mean
umbral seal
This? Yeah, I can use this for sniping
But you're kinda losing if you have to use this to snipe a fairy instead of creating a fairy yourself
blissful olive
bro what is haven rn
i killed this guy 3 times by now
but he keeps healing to full for free lol
bro shoulda been dead 4 turns ago but he keeps going to full
maybe dragon sucks damn
umbral seal
I told you Amulet Haven is good
blissful olive
i havent seen anyone running it
umbral seal
It's not as popular as I thought it'd be but it's clearly tier 1
imo
It does very well into Evo Forest
blissful olive
its win con tho seems sus
umbral seal
Updated list.
blissful olive
like what does it even do
umbral seal
its win con tho seems sus
Gives you a token that infinitely respawns itself while popping amulets instantly and dealing 2 damage to face
Lyanthoth is extremely good.
Why do you not read cards in a card game?
umbral seal
...win conditions do not need to be an instant "I win" button
blissful olive
according to JP fellas
umbral seal
Your understanding of card games is terrible.
umbral seal
Enhance is not tier 1. Forest is. Dragon probably is after the hotfix
But it's ramp, not discard
blissful olive
my understanding is fine i know its stalling out and making u die over time and not a here goes albert button
umbral seal
Lyanthoth can, at minimum, do 10 damage the very next turn regardless of what your opponent has on the field.
The utility is also significantly higher since the token instantly pops all your amulets
Which allows them to stabilize if they're dying, while still killing you
umbral seal
The JP fellas are not infallible. They'll be saying Amulet is tier 1 by the end of the week.
blissful olive
they always jump the gun and move things around
like
remember ward haven day 1 then it went to complete shit
once we get any kind of extra discard shit hopefully next set i think this deck is gonna be retarded lol
yube is also fucking crazy good at keeping ur board up + fan
umbral seal
Well, we're losing fan next set but that doesn't matter that much because pugilist and sagatsu are great discarders
We're just lacking strong payoffs
blissful olive
fan is really strong yeah losing it might hurt more than we think
cause with yube thats 3 storm coming at u minimum every turn
i added in 2 pugs but idk if ima keep em in now that rune is fixed
the eld blade guy also isnt doing a lot but hes a free discard for bane on board
umbral seal
I'd cut one jellyfish for an extra fate, personally
blissful olive
honestly feels weird af not running filene
but she doesnt have a place here i feel unless i cut jellyfish
or lyria maybe idk
umbral seal
Personally, Filene & Galm are mandatory 3x in any dragon deck
And then I build from there
blissful olive
watch this guy heal to 20 right now
umbral seal
I mean, he's not dead next turn regardless, him stabilizing wouldn't surprise me
blissful olive
maybe theres hope but i expect some bullshit
umbral seal
Nope, he's boardlocked and he has no way to pop the 2nd ward
blissful olive
ok i got lucky he didnt heal
umbral seal
Even if he did, he's still dead
umbral seal
Actually I forgot kandima SEVO
umbral seal
btw what do u feel is keeping enhance from being a tier 1 anyhow
The fact that you can only start enhancing from turn 3
You have multiple 1 drops you don't want to even use because they're enhance 3
blissful olive
you do only need 5 tho so its not 2 bad i imagine?
btw this is a great example of what i meant on losing fan
i only won this game because of fan
umbral seal
Getting to 5 faith isn't the problem, it's the fact that it takes too long for the deck to build any pressure
blissful olive
dropping a 6/6 turn 4 cause i buffed it and shit
without fan id have lost 100%
unless we get something like really powerful next set to replace it i think its cooked
umbral seal
We'll see. No point thinking about it now, imo
blissful olive
yeah just saying fan gives insane early game power
especially with the +2+2 card thats how i got so much damage on him early
umbral seal
Amyway, my tier 1s are evo forest, amulet haven and loot sword (still)
Maybe Fennie ramp is still tier 1. Undecided.
blissful olive
i hope loot sword dont make a comeback
its just not fun to play against
what would u change in fennie or keep it the same
im gonna experiment with the meme card later just for shits and giggles
umbral seal
i hope loot sword dont make a comeback
It will, it's very good against evo forest. Enhance isn't but people are experimenting
umbral seal
what would u change in fennie or keep it the same
Nothing unless you're running the zell + omegotep combo
blissful olive
i just hope its not as popular which it prob wont be
fading echo
They emergency nerfed real fast with this one
blissful olive
yeah thankfully
i feel like i should start mulling for fan its 2 good rn
jesus yeah forest vs dragon rn is miserable
fading echo
I'm having fun testing my decks i made one that seems fun so far but today after work I'll try to make full use of the new cards
blissful olive
like borderline unwinnable lol
yeah when this happens it just becomes unwinnable lol
fading echo
Funny enough eggs clear this so it's probably gonna be good again when the meta settles down
blissful olive
i might run a copy of burnrite idk
there is that spell that does damage absed on its cost to
7-5-3 maybe i should add 2 of those cause forest is borderline unwinnable
ye this 1 might need to have this
like bruh u literally just die lmao
blissful olive
like how it works or u mean its bad
mystic tartan
i dont understand how it works
blissful olive
lowkey same but i dont care 2 find out i dont wanna play it lol
blissful olive
evo portal seems quite good
but i barely see any1 running it its all forest and haven rn
mystic tartan
Hmmge
unkempt lava
Is it just me or is the power level 3x higher than last pack?
umbral seal
Is it just me or is the power level 3x higher than last pack?
That depends on the classes you're looking at
umbral seal
NGL, Althenia might be the most busted legendary in the game right now.
blissful olive
mystic tartan
Crystal Rune is good, it's just not t1
Yeah it lose to heals if they have
But it can be Lethal
bro ward Haven is fucking more toxic now 
umbral seal
I'm definitely one of 'em, ngl
blissful olive
im debating but idk if i wanna put all my eggs into that
cause like i said i can make either forest or 2 of abyss haven or sword but thats what i have for the rest of the set id be outa vials
mystic tartan
I legit never see 'em
im in ruby rn maybe thats why
its awful to play against them as Enhance Sword
mystic tartan
yeah lots of evo forest too
umbral seal
what would u say is the worst MU for evo forest rn
Crystal Rune, surprisingly. I don't see it often but the times I have, I haven't beaten it
mystic tartan
i hate the mirror
blissful olive
u would think xtal wouldnt be good vs it
cause they just put out a bunch of small guys against ur hoard of 3/3 wards and infinite board clear
mystic tartan
Crystal Rune, surprisingly. I don't see it often but the times I have, I haven't...
i almost win against one but he heals
i even bring it down to 1
i lost cus they drop the 8pp 
umbral seal
cause they just put out a bunch of small guys against ur hoard of 3/3 wards and ...
Evo Forest isn't actually that good at clearing. It's why I run skipper & aria
The few times I've lost against Enhance Sword, it was due to wide boards
blissful olive
i mean u got the 4 drop thats like aragravy on evo
comet dive
that other kill highest atk spell
mystic tartan
lol i was always wary against Albert
blissful olive
glade
mystic tartan
Enhance Albert is disgusting
umbral seal
i mean u got the 4 drop thats like aragravy on evo
You don't want to use Cupitan that early. Like sure, it's an option but it's better to save it for combo'ing with Sandy
blissful olive
hows enhance been vs forest for u
umbral seal
Comet Drive does not help with wide boards
mystic tartan
hows enhance been vs forest for u
okay matchup
umbral seal
Cupitan is really your only early board clear and it's very limited
Again, this is why I run skipper because you can't always rely on Althenia
blissful olive
that 1 card is lowkey keeping armes in check lol
i do kinda wanna try some abyss
the more i play dragon it feels like its good but im missing something
putting fat monsters on the board is good but getting around 1 thing isnt ever a problem really
but dragon never been one to flood board really
im also thinking the eld birds arnt that great either i might but filene back in idk
also dragon seems to have an issue clearing in general
mystic tartan
dragon always need galmi to clear elf
blissful olive
well in my other version i am running the eld thing
that board wipes based on its cost
7-5-3
but late game dragon has issues vs people who flood the board which forest does very easily
blissful olive
my goat
mystic tartan
yeah crystal rune lose to heals
umbral seal
according to JP this is the best deck currently
I've lost very few games to discard.
It's not the most popular deck on ladder either
It's a split between evo forest & enhance sword
Also, I'm starting to lose more games to enhance sword. It might be t1.
mystic tartan
ur playing evo forest ??
mystic tartan
yeah enhance is good against evo forest
mystic tartan
lol yeah i noticed that
umbral seal
The sword decks have been developing
They're adding battle princess now
People are still adjusting shit
It's day 2.
umbral seal
It helps a lot against evo forest specifically
People weren't playing that yesterday
blissful olive
ive also seen a few abyss aggro
umbral seal
It's funny how the hotfix basically deleted OTK Odin from ladder
Because I still think it can win games
But it can get rushed down now
blissful olive
it can yeah but no1 runs it
mystic tartan
i almost got killed by it
blissful olive
its just turbo aggro it does so mcuh early
but if u dont draw fan its kinda sus
also took out erntz for genesis in this version im trying
shes good but shes not aggro centric not looking to stall
blissful olive
im not anything
i cant play forest lol
poverty mode till next set
prob gonna use this to make uhh
sword tho that only costs 14k
been running this rn does pretty well
mystic tartan
blissful olive
according to GW their version of dragon is amazing apparently
but i think they smoking some shit on their tier lists
i wanna see the fella who thought this up
blissful olive
yeah
mystic tartan
Enhance Sword weakness is its fucking slow af like u need to pray u dont go against aggro
or ur dead
blissful olive
like dragon i dont think is T1
mystic tartan
blissful olive
maybe tweaked fennie could still be really strong? but its also slow
mystic tartan
i do think evo forest is tier 1 cus how similar
it is with rune evo
now with more shit
blissful olive
i think im gonna put filene back in dragon tho cause she is like the best way to deal with forest board imo
mystic tartan
she is
blissful olive
its just hard 2 fit
the 0/2 is still really good with fan but hes also not threatening
i could maybe drop lyria but idk
feels like the only thing i can cut
also wanna try some evo abyss but i also havent seen a single soul play it
it might be hot ass
umbral seal
lol
He conceded right after that screenshot btw
Because he has no way to kill mine
blissful olive
dont let our japanese overlords hear that
i seen a number of fellas running this tho
umbral seal
So, Kruelle is a decent anti aggro option
I don't see a need for it, personally
There's barely any aggro on ladder
blissful olive
i was debating trying this
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Yeah, I just keep losing to enhance sword now
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Once yid is online, clearing boards is difficult and I cannot stop albert
Playing dragon right now
blissful olive
yeah true ur wards are 3/3
dragon does really well vs sword rn id say
i only lost once and it was to loot
umbral seal
Good deck.
I really didn't want to play dragon because I literally have over 1.6k wins right now but I dropped to sapphire playing evo forest
Because sword has been farming me
blissful olive
are u running filene or did u not find room
umbral seal
I think not running Filene makes sense, somehow
Didn't change too much from the list you posted earlier. I just think running 1 Erntz is way too unreliable
I'm starting to see more Forest decks running Kruelle
What do they cut to make room for that?
blissful olive
i couldnt say i dont play it so i wouldnt know
i was also testing this for a sort of more aggro version
genesis has won me a lot more games than erntz
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Genesis can get cockblocked very easily.
blissful olive
it can yeah but usually its not a problem
umbral seal
according to JP this is the best deck currently
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That's literally all I changed lol
blissful olive
yeah
this shit struggles vs forest tho id say and it can be a tad sus on evo portal
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Forest, even with gilnelise, doesn't have a lot of healing
blissful olive
its not about healing or etc
its having to deal with a constantly flooded board when u dont have wide clear
this is why im running beheading now
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Still haven't lost a game to Forest with this
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@mystic tartan Crystal Rune is actually insane
Started playing it because I've literally never beaten it
mystic tartan
<@729570331747942480> Crystal Rune is actually insane
yeah if opponent cant heal its joever
mystic tartan
lol it matters
yeah if u pull that starlight
if not
im a victim
also ward haven cucks this but thankfully its rare
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Calge gaming 
mystic tartan
yeah this discard shit is strong
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Should've played this deck much earlier
Oh well
@sick oasis Play crystal rune
Right now
blissful olive
Milteo is still not that good
yeah i dont really wanna run that id rather play mode or cope with evo lol
i did craft abyss even tho its awful
blissful olive
ghost girl?
the 1/1?
vampire?
she can be annoying early maybe yeah but idk if ima run her
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I don't know why Cami costs 7, honestly
blissful olive
oh i dont have any yogs yeah i cant make that forgot about him
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If portal coins that on forest, they're kinda cooked
blissful olive
oh chest event is back tmr thats cool
blissful olive
fan 2 strong lol
blissful olive
bro is playing ramp vs this thats a bad time lol
blissful olive
yeah i think this deck is really strong BUT
if u dont get fan on turn 1-2 ur probably going to lose
interested in testing this as well
mystic tartan
already am
sick oasis
@mystic tartan albert up 1 game
mystic tartan
mystic tartan
sick oasis
i haven't fought an enhance player played like that
are they just unlucky or dumb
they usually die by turn 9
blissful olive
@mystic tartan
is sword kinda in the same spot dragon is
where if u dont get majestic crest ur suffering
blissful olive
yeah thats dragon and fan
is it still playable or are u just in hell and probably gonna lose
mystic tartan
blissful olive
yeah ima try 3 and 2 coin
sometimes coin gets fucked if u have cards in hand already
mystic tartan
both lego combo very well
mystic tartan
im missing the 3 yogs to run it tho
my goat lmaoo
bro feel headache against this shit
blissful olive
yeah portal is dum dum
ima run it too if i ever find 3 yogs...so im not gonna run it
fan power bitch
won every game today so far but the moment i dont get fan im losing it
holy shit no fan i won a game they couldnt clear fortre lol
blissful olive
they draw 3 off it too which is insane
umbral seal
Cami doesn't draw 3, you're talking about the 6 drop ward
blissful olive
oh they dont get the effect? i thought they did
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I also like the 9 pp combo of cami + yogg to combo with sandy next turn
blissful olive
maybe i'll get lucky and get some yogs off the chest event lol
i already got my decks for this set
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oh they dont get the effect? i thought they did
You only get the draw 3 if you drop it manually. And I've had overdraw issues with the deck
You very rarely need to use it to draw 3
mystic tartan
bro im sad that Albert will rotate lmao
Enhance is kinda awkward without him
hopefully next sword lego
blissful olive
dont worry
remember when we lost albert before
we just get a new 1
we even had a spell that puts him in our hand
but if hes not back next set then yeah enhance is probably dead since albert is all it has
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I actually removed Shoddy Plaything because I don't think it's that good without the axe
This one.
If anyone has a link to an evo portal build that found a way to fit both, let me know
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I have both. The funny thing is, I wasn't even gunning for that in Skybound
I only wanted Fediel
Yeah, this list works real well
Double substandard puppet -> cami -> turn 7 invoke
mystic tartan
im farming evo forest
with enhance sword
cus my hand always good
why Nevia didnt join guild
blissful olive
im in another 1
red plover
didnt you say its nearly ded though
umbral seal
Let him do what he wants 
blissful olive
pretty much but as long as we get S rank which isnt 2 hard its fine
mystic tartan
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I don't know why you think you're in the position of bargaining here.
mystic tartan
if i could transfer my vials i would
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My guild is significantly more alive.
mystic tartan
blissful olive
mystic tartan
alright so many evo forest lmaooo
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@mystic tartan Soon as I hit GM, sword players started coming to the same conclusion: loot is better
Some people just play loot with Yid
Because the spell is good for early board control
mystic tartan
yeah i saw cqcq play it too
blissful olive
loot
mystic tartan
chaos legion become so good now lol
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A lot of people are still playing Crystal Rune but Evo Portal farms it
Cami boards just have too many stats
Still tryiing to find a list that does well into Forest
mystic tartan
yeah milteo is not tier 1
its too dependable on draw
and what the opponent has
umbral seal
yeah milteo is not tier 1
Reddit saying that was so damn stupid.
If it was OP, people would be playing it
The ladder catches on faster than they do
It'd be lucky if it's tier 3
I see amulet haven more than any abyss
mystic tartan
it also fucking cant clear board unless Aragavy or Milteo
even if u clear u wasting resources
to finish the game
my streamer just lost to it tho cus he dont pull Albert 
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@mystic tartan Suggestions?
I like myriad designs
But evo forest is still an uphill battle
mystic tartan
honestly i dont know lol i havent played it yet
been playing enhance sword right now cus my wr with it is fairly good
honestly kinda need the axe
mystic tartan
honestly ill cut gilnelise
mystic tartan
yeah 3x
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I'll change some things around. Still think evo forest cooks me, though
blissful olive
her being a 9/9 on turn 7 is lowkey crazy
mystic tartan
it was double cami
blissful olive
i might try some mode abyss who doesnt love 10 minute games
i just wanna dump armes on the table and see what happens
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If you're watching all these evo portals, you should have a good idea of what they're running @mystic tartan
I ain't watching anybody lol
I barely even run into evo portal mirrors
Main reason I'm playing it
mystic tartan
yeah they not running gilnelise
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