Shadowverse

[mystic tartan]

wut

who says im playing abyss

lul

i just said that guy a meme

thats all

[umbral seal]

I'm not. You said earlier it's a meme and it is not.

[mystic tartan]

i dont believe him

[umbral seal]

I explained why he can, situationally, be better or worse than undead soldier

[mystic tartan]

yeah undead soldier is more annoying

[blissful olive]

ngl zooey has done the least for me in this deck

[mystic tartan]

vaseraga is just not it for me

[mystic tartan]

bro zooey is cinema

she can be clutch

[umbral seal]

Mandatory. It's ramp.

That's not a cuttable option.

[blissful olive]

if i could ever draw her sure

[mystic tartan]

i usually draw

[blissful olive]

and when i do its past the point of being useful her turn 10 shit doesnt do fuck all

[mystic tartan]

but yeah in rare occasion i dont have a single ramp

[mystic tartan]

this is so wrong

[umbral seal]

Ferocious Flame is cuttable. It's a good card but not mandatory.

[blissful olive]

yeah really

[mystic tartan]

bro u should see my replay

wait

[blissful olive]

how come every time i draw it

[mystic tartan]

ill give u an example

[blissful olive]

ginsex is on the field

[mystic tartan]

shes clutch sometimes

i mean

mode abyss is just

good against dragon if they can get to sham

[umbral seal]

It depends on how much work you did prior to reaching her enhance. Unless you have multiple zooey's and the opponent doesn't have a ward wall, she can help you win the game

But she is very useful whether she's ramping or stalling

[blissful olive]

the only way shes good stalling is if they dont have a wall of wards

[mystic tartan]

its 50/50 against mode abyss either u kill them first

[blissful olive]

or u cuck billy by chance

[mystic tartan]

or they just control the fuck out of u

[umbral seal]

This is really only a Haven issue. Situationally, Rune

But most classes can't build a wall

[blissful olive]

abyss as well

[umbral seal]

So, outside of congregant or post-nacha ginsetsu, not really.

These things are also easily clearable with filene and/or azurifrit

Also twilight dragon (better at clearing than azurifrit without using s-evo)

[blissful olive]

yeah those are the only cards that matter and come up very often

idk what id take out for TD tbh

i mean i can drop lyra maybe

[umbral seal]

A lot of smaller wards can be cleared simply by saving fangs from galm

[umbral seal]

Lyria is fine.

Also, what is "TD"?

[blissful olive]

dragon

[mystic tartan]

look at this

[umbral seal]

Personally, I wouldn't run Twilight Dragon, I run Azurifrit instead for more face damage. Personal preference, though.

[mystic tartan]

i know this guy gonna albert my ass

next turn if i dont zooey

[blissful olive]

i guess i can drop lyra

[mystic tartan]

1 lyra is enough for me

[blissful olive]

only thing she does is search wilnas

which doesnt matter half the time

[mystic tartan]

well i pray sometimes

cus she can search all the good shit

ganryu,odin,wilnas,genesis,azurifirt

[umbral seal]

Uh, no, she doesn't. She searches for any card that's 7 pp or above. That includes Wilnas but it can often be other high cost cards

[blissful olive]

there isnt anything else in here

garyu sure but idc about that

[mystic tartan]

she can pull genesis too

[umbral seal]

You are also running 1 shark. Anyway, I'll show you my list.

[umbral seal]

He's not running genesis (a mistake imo)

[blissful olive]

im not running genesis atp

[mystic tartan]

bro

[blissful olive]

with all the ward decks

[mystic tartan]

just use 1 of him

[blissful olive]

yeahh.... lol

[umbral seal]

I honestly don't know what rating people play at to be running into so many ward decks, because I barely see them nowadays.

[mystic tartan]

sometimes all u do need is him to end the game

[blissful olive]

we have like 10 of him

forte odin gayu zooey

fucking

wilnas ig

[mystic tartan]

bro u already gonna run out of evos

usually

[umbral seal]

Anyway, this is my list and I have not changed it since hitting beyond.

[mystic tartan]

also sevo him is 12 damage to face

[blissful olive]

that just looks like the same thing i posted

but u have genesis and azur

[umbral seal]

Redundancy is not a downside in a storm deck. Already had to explain this to someone else on reddit.

[mystic tartan]

like i have meet an opponent that cant deal with him

i ramp twice

and genesis

[umbral seal]

Good luck beating evo rune & evo abyss without genesis. It's not impossible but those 2 decks are exactly why I included 2 near the end of my grind.

The extra firepower is necessary.

[mystic tartan]

i rarely meet evo abyss now

its either portal puppet or dirt evo rune

[umbral seal]

Midrange abyss seems to be getting a bit more popular than evo nowadays

Evo Rune is still very popular. Puppet portal is popular because people realized it's a very cheap tier 1 deck. Destruction portal is also popular, despite not being as strong as puppets, because it can beat most t1 decks if it draws well

[blissful olive]

notice u dont run shark either

probably better to 1 off him and genesis

[umbral seal]

I used to. I tend to include the shark if I run into too many havens

Since I don't, I cut it

[mystic tartan]

haven is ass

well good i guess after that last set

tired of seeing them

[umbral seal]

Nope, hybrid crest/ward Haven is still good. Calling it ass is not consistent with where the beyond leaderboards are at right now.

[blissful olive]

haven is still really strong

also direct counter to abyss

[umbral seal]

Pure ward haven is not good, but it's played by people who want to see others suffer

[mystic tartan]

no its not really strong

LOOT IS REALLY STRONG

[blissful olive]

loot was always broken

[umbral seal]

Loot is tier 1. We know that. Loot being busted doesn't mean Haven is ass.

This is not a logical train of thought.

[blissful olive]

id play loot myself but its just boring

[mystic tartan]

i mean Haven doesnt do much against Dragon now

i usually won

[mystic tartan]

i overdosed on Loot

last set

[umbral seal]

I agree Haven isn't that hard since they give you time to ramp

There are harder match ups for dragon

[mystic tartan]

yeah u can just ramp

[blissful olive]

loot feels like old artifact

they get everything for free and dont need to spend resources

[mystic tartan]

tablet is so good on loot makes that deck a gigabroken one

[umbral seal]

Haven does not counter abyss, lol. It doesn't even beat mode anymore. It's never beat midrange and even the evo deck beats it because they can put out a lot of midgame pressure without even thinking about Belial

[blissful olive]

yes it does

not the craft itself but ti directly counters billy

[mystic tartan]

well that one amulet only

[umbral seal]

Temple of Repose being able to block Belial does not mean it counters abyss. If you could read, you'd see I explained that above.

[blissful olive]

oh brother

[mystic tartan]

either way im just going to play Dragon

[blissful olive]

miracles do happen

it must be christmas

[mystic tartan]

yeah sometimes they die

[blissful olive]

oh now im vs rune aight gg lmao

i dont see any way dragon wins this

[mystic tartan]

u can

[blissful olive]

if they afk sure

[mystic tartan]

its an ok matchup

[blissful olive]

ima just go face no sense trading here

[umbral seal]

Dragon vs Rune is a very fair match up.

Of course, if you simply ignore their board, you're going to lose. The deck doesn't work that way.

[blissful olive]

well ur not out trading them

and ur not winning once that other hoe is out with a billion ER

[umbral seal]

Evo Rune lacks significant reach. You should control the board early & midgame. Obviously you have to ignore lilanthim unless there isn't an absurd amount of ER stacks

I've won plenty of times post lilanthim by ignoring her because she's not realistically removable for most classes

But that much should be obvious

[blissful olive]

some would lie to me and say this is winnable even

[umbral seal]

And as I stated earlier, evo rune is why I run 2 genesis. Because you're correct in the sense that you will not out-late game them. You have to kill them before they hit their late game.

[umbral seal]

Show the full replay.

[blissful olive]

i cant

i dont have nitro

i just drew dog shit

[umbral seal]

Perhaps. Sometimes that happens. But I'm also wondering why DJ can hit face since it looks like you could've cleared whatever the board was prior.

[blissful olive]

no i couldnt have

i had to play zooey to clear 1 guy

[umbral seal]

What was the board state before caglio and edel dropped?

[blissful olive]

gran and 1 other evoed guy

the one that makes copies

[umbral seal]

Norman?

[blissful olive]

no

the 3/3

[umbral seal]

I'm even more confused now. Anyway, that's not relevant. Based on what I can see, you were at 9 pp when you played zooey. I do not understand why you didn't play Galm, since that's a very easy full clear if the opponent's board was just two dudes

[blissful olive]

there was only 1 card on the board so im not full sending galm there

[umbral seal]

??? I thought there were two cards on the opponent's board. If there was just one, that's even more reason to play Galm, since you would not need to super evo trade

[blissful olive]

yeah after i hit it with zooey

[umbral seal]

Since you can't post a replay, I would need to see the board state prior

[blissful olive]

there was 1 left

told u the 3.3 that makes copies and evos itself + gran

[umbral seal]

You're talking about Mireille & Risette?

[blissful olive]

i guess?

theres only 1 card that does it

[umbral seal]

Calling her a 5/5 would've made me less confused but okay, now I'm seeing the picture. Again, this still doesn't explain to me why you wouldn't play Galm. Because the enemy board state is a 5/5 and a 5/4. You're playing a storm deck that already has plenty of reach. Saving galm to go face makes no sense when you can save yourself 5 damage

Taking 5 damage like that is how you end up in situations where lilanthim drops and now you can't afford to ignore her

[blissful olive]

because i didnt wanna waste face damage ig

it didnt matter either way

[umbral seal]

I understand your reasoning. I am telling you it's incorrect.

Galm's primary purpose is board control first. Face damage 2nd. Not the other way around.

[blissful olive]

im aware but ti didnt matter

[umbral seal]

Perhaps you would still lose that game anyway, but misplays like that should always be noted, since that is how you improve and climb. It's how I improve and climb.

[blissful olive]

with a shitty hand like that jesus wasnt gonna win lol

[umbral seal]

Assuming you clear with galm, you have 2 zooey's in hand and two gil's, which I would personally save until Rune reaches 10 unless I needed to heal. Considering a life total of 18, I wouldn't jump the gun on Zooey but I'd be fishing for something better with dragonsign, if my next draw isn't good. If it's bad, I stall with Zooey for two turns while looking for Genesis Dragon if he has no Norman or Azurifrit if he does

I've already told you plenty of times that your mentality alone tanks your winrate but you're incapable of listening

[blissful olive]

i just know when a game is over

[umbral seal]

You should always be asking yourself "what are my outs" instead of looking for a reason to quit at the first sign of trouble

[blissful olive]

im not gonna play something out for like another 3-5 minutes banking on a 1% chance

there was nothing i could have done anyways

also i coudlnt play galm

she wasn't even in my hand lol i drew her from a dragon sign afterwards

this is where i said fuck it

there was no winning past this point with no evos i had to use them to clear

[umbral seal]

With no replay, my input is going to remain the same. Well, except for the fact that you min max your playtime to the point where it sounds like you dislike playing the game

[blissful olive]

i kinda do

shit is kind of bad

mostly the game lacks depth for me compared to other card games

[umbral seal]

Playing a game you dislike. Must not value your time that much then.

[blissful olive]

the problem ive always had on this game is 0 counter play

the shear fact you cannot act on ur opps turn is awful imo

that and tbh super evo is horrible fucking mechanic

[umbral seal]

We've already had this discussion of this game never becoming yugioh or magic. It's just weeb Hearthstone

Any trap/counter mechanic would also inflate game time more than the devs want (unless it didn't interrupt the timer)

Secrets (a Hearthstone mechanic) is probably the best you could hope for but I'd be shocked if even that was implemented

[blissful olive]

it wont be this game is basically the same as sv1

only real diff is super evo

[umbral seal]

I'd say the game is definitely worse than sv1 in terms of balance direction

They're already designing themselves into a trap by printing cards like Fennie & Zooey

Fennie's mere existence is why the devs are so cautious about giving dragon more ramp.

Zooey exacerbates the issue since she is ramp, otk protection and damage in one card

[mystic tartan]

52 damage lul

[red plover]

when brick meets wall https://streamable.com/zchwml

[mystic tartan]

xdd

[umbral seal]

Very weird sword list. Grimnir and DJ? I'm not even convinced this is a proper loot sword deck

[red plover]

yea, I was pretty confused as well

[umbral seal]

A standard list and drawing either octrice or tablet would've very easily killed you

[red plover]

I was considering to quit after I was drawing no crests the whole time but he just couldnt kill me

[brisk adder]

the fuck

[umbral seal]

Been ping ponging back and forth from Epic & Ultimate

Sometimes I just get highrollers

[brisk adder]

dragon is so chill to play

[mystic tartan]

man mode is strong

bruh

[brisk adder]

man im streaking bad using dragon

[brisk adder]

grinding while watching worlds

[mystic tartan]

mode abyss is kinda good now ngl

i find it more annoying than evo abyss

[umbral seal]

Now? It's always been tier 2 minimum.

[mystic tartan]

nah Tier 1 for sure rn

im playing loot and its annoying

[umbral seal]

Nope.

[mystic tartan]

wait

do we have different tier

i mean Tier 0 is Loot right surely

[umbral seal]

As strong as loot is, I still wouldn't say it's tier 0 as that implies it is nigh unbeatable. Like neutral blood in SV1

It's not at that level yet

And even if Loot was tier 0, I would still say mode is tier 2. It's good but not tier 1.

I would say midrange abyss is closer to tier 1 than mode is.

[mystic tartan]

either way my ranking will be
1 : Loot,Puppet ,Destruction (if not bricked)
2.Mode Abyss ,Midrange Abyss , Evo Rune

Dragon its kinda hard cus if i can just ramp and didnt get high cards early on its so good but sometimes i cant even ramp

also Haven is kinda ok the not Hybrid one

[umbral seal]

Destruction isn't tier 1 specifically because it's less consistent than puppets. Otherwise, I agree with the placements.

[mystic tartan]

i think Haven in 2 too

well but no ones playing it

i only meet 1 in tournament

[umbral seal]

Dragon is in an odd place because if they draw well, it feels like a tier 1 deck. If they don't, it feels like a tier 3-4 deck.

Which is why I say it's tier 2.

[mystic tartan]

yeah

like i can ramp

and then pull useless cards

like its not consistent

also i kinda mald playing it when i only got high cards

so many Puppet tho

[umbral seal]

Puppet portal is cheap and very consistent. It's what I've been grinding lately

But it's not good into mode abyss specifically because congregant is too many stats early to deal with before orchis is playable

[mystic tartan]

yeah i match mode

it do be kinda like that

[fading echo]

what are these dogshit servers tournament won't stop having disconnect errors

[fading echo]

amazing matchmaking in this game i take out wired assault since i haven't seen dragon players in days and the first match is vs a dragoncuck with two wilnas in hand

[umbral seal]

In my puppet list, I run 1 copy of Lu Woh and 2 copies of Sylvia. Wired Assault not needed.

Wired Assault should, at most, be a 1-of if you feel like you absolutely need it.

[fading echo]

wired assault is great just because it keeps the game from ever matching into dragon again

[umbral seal]

That's not how that works

[fading echo]

i had it in the deck for every match in the history and the only other two dragons were lobby matches doing dailies

[brisk adder]

Dragon is a chill class

I can just ramp and throw shit into their faces

No thinking required

And my games are faster

[umbral seal]

"No thinking required", lol, sure

[mystic tartan]

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FixupX · Nov 10, 2025, 2:48 PM

Lmaoo

[red plover]

waytoodank

[mystic tartan]

got to 1727 with Dragon

luckily didnt meet that many sword

[mystic tartan]

ULTIMATO

[red plover]

[brisk adder]

whats ur list?

[mystic tartan]

Same as Kuncussion

But with Raging Lightning added

[brisk adder]

can i see?

meg?

[mystic tartan]

No

Storm

[cursive crypt]

maybe evo dragon isnt that bad

this deck is actually fun and doesnt auto lose to loot

[mystic tartan]

Yeay it can counter loot and puppet

[mystic tartan]

i laughed

[mystic tartan]

reddit truly

[brisk adder]

What a cry baby

[mystic tartan]

he apologize

[umbral seal]

I'm not sure what misplay he's referring to. If you killed Gil instead of Norman, he'd heal to 16 and then you'd truly have no outs

[mystic tartan]

yeah bro is just confused

[umbral seal]

Although, considering he didn't heal off Gil the first time, there was no reason to kill it

Actually

If he hits Zooey instead of face, he does heal

Never mind

[mystic tartan]

yeah Drain moment

im also lucky cus he didnt play a single 3pp heal

imagine if he has it

[umbral seal]

Logged on, saw I fell back to Legendary, cooked a sword player

[brisk adder]

[mystic tartan]

MAN

DRAGON IS JUST NOT IT

WHEN BRICKED

[brisk adder]

[brisk adder]

@umbral seal ty for the deck bro

im diamond group and aa0 now

[umbral seal]

No problem.

[umbral seal]

I mean, yeah, but when you ramp, opponents need to high roll to not get run over.

[mystic tartan]

I'm just on a rant cus i match 2 sword while bricked

[blissful olive]

im gonna jump

[umbral seal]

Seen worse hands. You have a 3 if you skip your 2. Top decks also likely to not be high end.

[blissful olive]

i won somehow by pure luck drawing

[umbral seal]

Feel like running a match?

[blissful olive]

i dont run sets in card games its really not my thing

[umbral seal]

Only asking for a single match.

Because of the weekly reset

But if you don't want to, I'll leave you to it.

[blissful olive]

i can do that sure ive actually stopped doing that now cuz i hate having to ask ppl on discord every sunday

it got 2 annoying

[umbral seal]

I'll be in my guild lounge

[blissful olive]

u know i cant join u lol

u have 2 go to a lobby or something

[umbral seal]

I thought people could join other guild lounges

[blissful olive]

never heard of that being a thing lemme see if i can TP

nah

[umbral seal]

One sec.

[blissful olive]

im offended you dont use horse girl

[umbral seal]

Because she sucks

Meg does not suck.

[blissful olive]

https://tenor.com/view/uma-musume-cinderella-gray-oguri-cap-horse-galaxy-brain-gif-7391528173250537607

[umbral seal]

Evo dragon overall is not that great but free super evos always have potential

[blissful olive]

i kinda wanna run tempo forest but i know its terrible

[umbral seal]

So, tempo forest has draw now with Gran & Djeeta. The problem is closing out games.

[blissful olive]

when i used to run it roach would usually end it

cuz even in aggro roach is still silly

[cursive crypt]

ive been havinga blast with evo sword

genuinely most fun deck this season

[blissful olive]

did you buy zeta too

[cursive crypt]

no

i dont need battle pass to get every card i wanted so no point

[umbral seal]

I've pulled so many tickets off of this last set except Wilnas

Need his alt art.

[umbral seal]

Evo Sword basically feels like a control deck when I play against it.

I might play it next set if it's still decent.

[mystic tartan]

its funny cus it bricked with willnas kek

evo sword

[umbral seal]

Even evo sword should run 2 copies of Odin

Just like I don't agree with evo rune lists that don't.

(Some do)

[cursive crypt]

It's more like midrange tbh, the only card in the control archetype is the 7pp gold card

My list also doesn't run Odin, maybe I should cut sandalphon for it

Sandalphon does not feel that good in Evo sword

The crest u get from invoke is the only reason I run one

[umbral seal]

It's definitely slower than classic midrange from set 1 and 2, which is why I call it control. The only reason it doesn't look more like a Haven control deck is they don't have the tools, like Roland.

[blissful olive]

someone made an oppsie

[umbral seal]

Probably meant to play belial instead

But considering you have double lyria in hand, drawing beel is likely and at that point, it's gg

[blissful olive]

yeah it was super over

im trying rune now wanna see how it feels to be a cag main

the rune exp nobody wants to play u lmao

oh this is fun i really like how dirt plays now

haven is very cancer tho i havent lost playing as haven vs rune yet either

[umbral seal]

Rune needs Raio to win that. Also needs to bait torrent of despair before playing lilanthim

Haven does eventually run out of board clears and Raio allows you to do shit like playing lilanthim + other bodies

[blissful olive]

playing another rn

im just ignoring shit and hitting face atp

once the wall is built its basically over

[umbral seal]

Uh, not really. Aether boards are easier to clear if you have a board yourself. And even with Grimnir down, Aether cannot clear a Norman board, for example.

[blissful olive]

got lucky ig

[umbral seal]

Also, most haven players moved away from Aether at this point. They're all crest now.

[blissful olive]

id say aether galleon is quite good

[umbral seal]

Aether was popping for like, the first 3 days. Because I saw a lot while climbing to Beyond

[umbral seal]

It's okay. There's a reason why most haven players moved away from it

Unless you think people are allergic to playing good decks

The decks that everyone universally agrees are top 2 at this point, are loot sword & puppet portal. Aether is garbage against both.

[blissful olive]

i have been enjoying puppet

eggs is fun too but i wouldnt say there nuts

abyss tho not so much it just feels the same for the most part

maybe i need a new billy list ? but its not been that enjoyable

[umbral seal]

The best abyss deck is mode right now. All over the ladder.

[blissful olive]

it is but its not that fun for me to play mode

i prefer fun over just winning

[umbral seal]

Some play belial. Some still use Rulenye. Evo abyss isn't bad but you have to play it like a midrange deck most of the time. The belial win con is a bit too slow.

[blissful olive]

i am playing against a very confused person

lowkey wild 2 me were 3 sets in

and no new leaders being sold on shop

[umbral seal]

Because they moved away from that payment model. All the leaders we got in this set outside of Beel & Belial would have been shop leaders, because they're lower in quality compared to the normal ticket leaders. They don't have unique evo animations and they don't have backgrounds.

Shop leaders are never coming back.

[blissful olive]

money lost on their end

think of all the random shit they have in sv1 they could port over

[umbral seal]

Incorrect. More money made for people who want them because you either have to get lucky or spend a considerable amount to get them.

Again, I do not know why you think companies do things to lose money. If they thought shop leaders would make them more money, do you actually think they'd move away from that?

They literally have the data.

[blissful olive]

how would they lose money

they arnt losing anything if they took X leader from 1 and put it in 2

[umbral seal]

They believe they can make considerably more money by forcing people to spend for a low probability of getting what they want, unless they spend enough for the guaranteed choice at 350 pulls.

Compared to having a static price that's more accessible to low spenders.

[blissful olive]

sure but if u have both

[umbral seal]

You may not like this monetization. I don't, but that is why they're doing it.

[blissful olive]

thats more money

[umbral seal]

I'm not sure if that would be more money compared to simply having everything as a ticket that, again, will force players to spend money if there's something they really want.

[blissful olive]

u have ticket chars that are more animated and all that jazz then the lower end

theres no downside

like if u took the leaders from the gbf collab last time threw em all in the shop they are making money

even if they has no special anything people hella buying that shit

[umbral seal]

Or, force people to make the choice between not getting what they want or spending hundreds of dollars (magnitudes more than what a potential shop price would be) to get it.

My perspective is that all leaders should be purchasable but your argument that they'd make more money by having them in the shop is comical to me.

[red plover]

clearly what they are doing right now is working already and those are just mobile sales

[umbral seal]

They wouldn't and again, if data showed they would, they would be rushing to do that.

[blissful olive]

my argument is theres 0 downside to having both

[umbral seal]

Thank you.

[blissful olive]

and there is 0 downside

[umbral seal]

The "downside" is not maximizing profits like a greedy company.

They do not care to cater to lower spenders.

[blissful olive]

does that include web store?

i know some games have it excluded

[red plover]

it doesnt

[umbral seal]

I've made this argument from the beginning but somehow, you're still hoping for Cygames to "see the light" or something.

[blissful olive]

figured yeah

no not at all

there no downside period

like the way u thinking this works is low spenders are gonna say fuck it and spend like 500 dollars

they arnt they spend nothing

[umbral seal]

No, they will just get locked out. The calculation Cygames is making is that the dolphins/whales will make up for the difference in the lower spenders that they're losing.

That's my point

[blissful olive]

having both gets lower spenders to say aight i can buy this etc

[umbral seal]

And if they thought catering to lower spenders would be more profitable in the long term, they would do that

[blissful olive]

sure they dont have to do anything

but they would make more money

u cant even argue this u just agreed with me lmao

no take backs lmao

[umbral seal]

Your argument is based off of what you would personally want, not based on any sort of data, tbh. In fact, the data we do have is SV1, which Cygames stated wasn't as profitable as they'd like and, to my knowledge, they did not have a ticket system. I believe all their leaders were purchasable.

[umbral seal]

On?

[blissful olive]

you said low spenders locked out = not a money source and that dolphins and whales carry so not having low spenders = money lost by not giving them a venue

outside of battle pass i guess? if people even value that

[umbral seal]

Not a "net loss", but sure, it's a loss in a vacuum.

[blissful olive]

maybe cygames just doesnt understand actually

cause u said they only had purchasable leaders in 1

probably never even considered the fact that u can do both

[umbral seal]

I do not know what they did after I quit after set 7 but they only had purchasable leaders from when I played.

[blissful olive]

sv1 tho tbh like

it wasnt great visually not even close to worlds

so i wouldnt be buying that shit anyways

[umbral seal]

I bought leaders, but leaders were purchasable with rupies.

I specifically remember buying Vania for like 500 or 1k rupies, since I didn't like Urias.

Easy choice.

[blissful olive]

oh yeah

[umbral seal]

Even if SV1 leaders cost crystals, I'd still make that choice, depending on who the leader was.

[blissful olive]

thats probably it

they didnt make much money off shop leaders in 1 so scrapped the whole idea

[umbral seal]

Personally, I think a system where they have tickets and shop leaders would be best on my wallet but Cygames believes having everything as a ticket is the best choice for profits. And they're very profitable right now.

No evidence to suggest that the option where they do both would net them more money if dolphins & whales are negating the loss of low spenders.

[blissful olive]

lucky for them japan loves this game

[umbral seal]

Well, if you want a weeb card game, it's really the only option

(Pokemon & Yugioh are technically weeb but that's a different conversation)

[red plover]

well Id say weeb hearthstone since new yu gi oh is very weeb

[umbral seal]

I stopped paying attention to Yugioh after link summons so I can't honestly say what they got going on now

[blissful olive]

ygo is just fucking awful to play in modern era

fucking 5 minute turns set up 235825 omni negates

shit is a 1 player game and each turn takes 2-5 mins

i really liked LoR but that game is dead

riot has a new game out but physical only atm

[fading echo]

https://streamable.com/dc6ps0 eggtifact

killed him from 15 too with suboptimal board

[cursive crypt]

Honestly egg artifact sounds better than the puppet egg hybrid

Since artifact doesn't really need as much board space

[cursive crypt]

U got a bunch of eggs tho

[umbral seal]

Ralmia still needs board space unless these lists are cutting her now

[cursive crypt]

I didn't watch till the end but why run artifact recharge instead of the new 2 drop that gives striker artifact

[cursive crypt]

For hybrid I would assume you just play for betas and eggs

With beelzebub

So u prob run only karula

[umbral seal]

In an ideal world, you'd only ever play betas but artifact cannot just ignore the opposing board

[fading echo]

i had both just in case you get enough to make a gundam

[cursive crypt]

Yeah but a lot of the new cards give you a free 3 cost artifact as last word

And that new gold card that clears voard

U don't need to make the gamma anymore i assume

Unless u really need to

[cursive crypt]

But u don't run ralmia right?

[fading echo]

nah

she's too weak to play outside of pure artifacts and pure artifacts is ass

[cursive crypt]

As I thought I would try playing it but I can't be fucked dropping cr

[mystic tartan]

man playing loot is just hits right

unless i match against mode

[fading echo]

is the game fucked for you guys too i can't even navigate the menus without disconnects

[mystic tartan]

idk

[fading echo]

pretty much done with the gm grind

[fading echo]

my job here is done

[umbral seal]

Not even GM3

[mystic tartan]

im gm 3 soon

only need 10k

[umbral seal]

I had to swap to Jerry Dragon because Haven started resurging again

[mystic tartan]

Havenge

[fading echo]

they'd have to pay me a salary to grind gm3

[umbral seal]

It ain't even that hard, especially if you're playing a t1 deck.

My personal variation of a deck I saw on reddit. Works pretty well.

[fading echo]

it's not about being hard it's about me rather do other things than no life the game for hours

[umbral seal]

I'd say GM3 in a month is pretty achievable without no-lifing the game

[mystic tartan]

honestly i want to be low elo cus its more easier to climb

no wonder cygames banned account that purposely low elo

[umbral seal]

Int'ing to be low elo isn't bannable. Win trading is.

[mystic tartan]

kek

[mystic tartan]

pag gran prix winner

first time kek

[umbral seal]

Finally

Time to attempt 2k CR before the month ends

[mystic tartan]

4-0 again

loot op

[umbral seal]

We know. Most likely candidate for nerfs.

[mystic tartan]

idk what they gonna nerf

maybe sinciro 7 cost instead of 6

but they need to pay vials

[umbral seal]

Cygames never used to care about giving vials if it means fixing broken shit.

[umbral seal]

Firstly, he shouldn't be a 5/6. Why can my garyu not cleanly trade into a 6 cost follower?

Shit makes no sense.

[mystic tartan]

[umbral seal]

He should be a 5/5. I'm fine with him costing 6. Remnant should cost 2, though.

Also, Congregant should probably cost 5.

Why does an aggro deck have one of the best removal units in the game?

Also makes no sense.

[mystic tartan]

we'll see

[warped granite]

Compare congregant with ancient cannon

[mystic tartan]

what they gonna do

in 4 days

[umbral seal]

Followers are easier to remove than amulets. Odin existing doesn't change that. That's why ancient cannon's effect is weaker

Congregant should still cost 5, though.

[warped granite]

Agree basically

[cursive crypt]

Congrats bro loot sword?

[mystic tartan]

yeah

man i hate playing against haven

fuck this

shit

[cursive crypt]

Haven is kinda poo poo tho so I don't mind

I won gp with puppets 2nd best deck basically

I can't climb above ultimate with evo sword this shit is a bit ass

[mystic tartan]

yeah but if they can get into late game

loot usually lose

[cursive crypt]

idk you would have to draw perfectly into aggro deck like loot and puppet

evo sword cant really deal with a board before turn 6

and that is only if you have gildaria

[fading echo]

lost like 3 games because the game keeps disconnecting and skipping my turns or auto surrendering

and the best part is the game being dead as fuck so there's no trace of other people having the same issue

and the timer keeps ticking so it just skips my turns

[mystic tartan]

or loot brick

no tablet like me

[umbral seal]

The amulet/crest variant that's been running around is very obnoxious to deal with. I'd say it's tier 2. I'd rather face crest/ward since I can just nuke their boards

[red plover]

rodeo the only saving grace for haven this set

[umbral seal]

Well, the new 3 pp amulet is what's really enabling the triple rodeo list

Even with a good hand, I haven't beaten that deck a single time with storm ramp

[red plover]

yea dragon is not a problem but against any of the high tier decks its really tough

[umbral seal]

The otk dragon deck can beat it but it has worse match ups against everything else

[mystic tartan]

Either way its rare to meet haven

Mostly portal

[umbral seal]

Was. Not in the last few days.

Which is why I'm complaining about it

Lack of Ward Haven also means roach came back

As usual

[mystic tartan]

God i hate Haven

Also they adding that 2pp 4 heal Amulet too

Heal heal heal

[cursive crypt]

i wouldnt say tier 2 tbh, but its the best haven deck around

it just doesnt have favored matchups

just an ok deck

u win vs earth rune i guess thats it

[umbral seal]

Objectively wrong. Otherwise, I'd at least have won one match with storm ramp.

Actually just talking out of your ass here.

[cursive crypt]

u dont see haven that often nowadays, so maybe u all the ones u played vs highrolled u

grimnir marwyn and congregant on curve is always hard to beat

[umbral seal]

Uh, no. They weren't high rolls at all. I've seen a lot of these decks in the past few days, despite seeing that haven overall has been falling off a cliff after the first week.

This is the only match-up that feels like an auto-loss.

I'd rather face every other tier 1 deck.

Even when I tried to counter queue it with OTK Dragon, I ended up dying to Marwynn's burn. That may have been a bad draw but OTK Dragon has a worse match-up spread against everything else.

Not worth trying to counter one deck.

[umbral seal]

So fucking close to 4-0 with Wamdus Rune.

Only lost to puppets.

[umbral seal]

I seriously hate this ELO.

Noob craft

[fading echo]

4th dc of the day literally impossible to play this trash

-100 cr on matches i can't even play

[umbral seal]

An issue with your ISP? I don't think it's a server issue.

[fading echo]

it's working perfectly on everything so it's def just the game

every match dcs me and 90% of time doesn't let me connect back

startet after they did that 1gb update

[umbral seal]

My game is working just fine

[umbral seal]

Man, evo sword is fun as fuck.

[mystic tartan]

yeah its fun

[umbral seal]

Had to stop keeping Seofon in my mulligan. Ended up being too bricky.

[mystic tartan]

espada galaxia

bruh 2 times bricked against sword

[red plover]

hoping for any worthwhile balance announcements tomorrow

[umbral seal]

Don't get your hopes up.

[red plover]

I have no expectations but Im still curious what they are gonna do

[umbral seal]

@cursive crypt @mystic tartan One of you, doesn't matter which, mind making another recruitment post on reddit?

[mystic tartan]

I just want to play

[umbral seal]

You say that as if I don't play more than you while doing other things as well.

😐

[blissful olive]

[mystic tartan]

[mystic tartan]

loot is safe

[mystic tartan]

i hate haven

[umbral seal]

Massive rose queen buffs, honestly

[umbral seal]

If I can ever get to pity on Infinity Evolved, I'll play Rose Queen next month

One thing that some fellas seem to be ignoring is that you can just run the evo package with Rose Queen now.

Probably 2 copies, imo.

[red plover]

giga rare tikoh plays

[fading echo]

i finally made a mode deck it's so funny how broken this is

[mystic tartan]

yeah bro ur against sevo sword

mode crush sevo sword

[umbral seal]

That's honestly not a bad match up

[mystic tartan]

my goat played against mode and despair when they deploy Belial

ginsetsu is strong af

[umbral seal]

Unless he's not playing Albert at all, you can kill them before they out late game you

[mystic tartan]

yeah no albert

only zeta bea

[umbral seal]

That's incorrect if you ask me

[mystic tartan]

i mean hes playing in beyond bro

so he must know his shit

he did try with albert

but stuck

[umbral seal]

Every fella in beyond doesn't have an optimal deck list. People have hit beyond with evo dragon but most people still tell you it's hot garbage.

Zeta & Bea gives you more early game but cutting 12 damage reach is wrong to me

[mystic tartan]

his wincon is always late game cus he bring siete too

thats why mode abyss fuck his comp hard

or Dragon if he cant kill Wilnas

[umbral seal]

It's also why I run Odin

But most decks aren't going to out-late game mode abyss. Or fennie dragon.

[blissful olive]

i wonder if people gonna think rose queen is good after this lol

[mystic tartan]

honestly she could be good now cus u can safe 2pp shit too

[umbral seal]

She is. She's quite comparable to beel now, except rose queen will require an evo to kill two targets

The bramble threshold being increased to 2 also means it's way more likely to otk anyone outside of dragon with Zooey active

[fading echo]

sword players all make the same mistake of fighting mode and then dropping golden knight at nothing instead of saving her to counter the ginsetsus

[umbral seal]

I have no idea what cr you play at to see this

Even if they're dropping tempo knight to charge seofon/sandy, I'm pretty sure that's still egregiously incorrect

[mystic tartan]

dirt rune with Raio is strong man

[fading echo]

I made that one too because i made normal evo rune and instantly lost a mirror to someone with raio

So i made the one with one raio and one velharia

[mystic tartan]

[mystic tartan]

bruh my streamer only match against rune dirt

[umbral seal]

Far too late for me to attempt rank 1. A shame since I fine tuned my deck to account for evo swords.

I'll try again next month.

[fading echo]

me when god gives me the tools to make haven players mad

[mystic tartan]

lol rose queen mirror is funny

2nd turn win

[umbral seal]

Same with portal mirrors. Beel first is gg.

[umbral seal]

A lot of forest players right now. Unsurprisingly.

[mystic tartan]

yep

[umbral seal]

Somehow, I giga ramped against an obvious rose queen deck and he nearly survived against two garyus on curve

Fortunately, Genesis Dragon

[mystic tartan]

[umbral seal]

At this point, I think Dragon needs a stronger super evo bomb. Garyu doesn't feel sufficient sometimes even if you play him on time.

Maybe I'm biased, though. There's been many times where the barrier dragon lives

But a full powered Sinciro full clears it. Only time it doesn't is if Sinciro is 3 dmg or less.

[mystic tartan]

yeah ganryu is just beefy boi

and hope the opponent cant clear

[umbral seal]

At this point, I want Discard Dragon back. Although when that was meta, it was basically Sinciro with less set up, i.e. nuking opponent's face and board

https://shadowverse-portal.com/card/126441030?lang=en

[mystic tartan]

lol i filene spell the rose queen

+1 cost bitch

[umbral seal]

Dragon has several outs to Rose Queen tbh

Speaking of Filene, I'm about to animate my copies

30+ cards animated so far

[mystic tartan]

pag

meet another rose queen

same shit i just filene

[umbral seal]

I think people will give up after a week, or they'll be stuck below ultimate. The deck does have decent match ups in this meta, notably mode abyss and evo rune.

[mystic tartan]

yeah just trying it

[umbral seal]

Puppet portal is a bit of a toss up imo and loot sword shouldn't be winnable for rq

[mystic tartan]

yeah its too slow

against loot

[fading echo]

this stupid ass fucking game

i have the cards to counter these dumb players but the game keeps lagging me out and not letting me play holy

just lost because the game forced me to skip 99% of my timer twice

[umbral seal]

Yeah, I can't imagine running evo sword without Odin or Albert. You win so much faster on average, while still having seofon + magus as a back-up.

Tried Zeta & Bea. Had to cut because too many 4s. Technically could cut Zirconia for her but Zirc also can create board states where the opponent just has to concede.

Also had to increase my Grimnir count to 3 because the deck sucks much more in the late game if you can't find him.

[blissful olive]

paid shuffler

[brisk adder]

kinda good imo

[umbral seal]

It's a very good hand. Nevia always bitchin'.

That many penelopes means you're basically never running out of sigils

[mystic tartan]

i really hate playing against haven

[umbral seal]

You're a sword main, of course you do

[mystic tartan]

im Dragon main now

rarely play sword cus bored

only tournament cus Dragon kinda incosistent

[umbral seal]

I have 4 different dragon decks and Storm Ramp is the most reliable of them.

[pastel spoke]

I wanna play this game again

Can I get a cool avatar

[umbral seal]

Don't know what you consider "cool", but imo, yes.

[pastel spoke]

yeeeeehaw

I’m reinstalling as soon as I turn on my pc

[umbral seal]

@mystic tartan I added Yurius back to evo sword. Literally hard counters lilanthim.

Just have to bait their last super evo

[mystic tartan]

yeah my goat already use him

[umbral seal]

And that bitch is permanently in jail

[mystic tartan]

can be clutch

when they dont have removal

[umbral seal]

Well, a lot of their removal is auto evolve.

If you super evo yurius, they need 10 non combat damage to remove him

That's not easy

Or evo velharia, I suppose

Assuming they still have evos

[mystic tartan]

yep only Odin really counter him without evo
with Dirt Evo running loose they dont play odin

[umbral seal]

I had to cut odins from my evo sword since it only really helps the dragon match up

[mystic tartan]

its actually insane how many people play Dirt Evo

[umbral seal]

Also cut albert down to 1. Felt like a brick too often

[umbral seal]

It's very consistent at grinding out other decks

[mystic tartan]

yeah my goat said Sandal can be just like Albert when people ask why he didnt put albert

honestly Grim

is the most important usually

in evo sword

its so broken

with him

in mirror its hilarous which one can deploy grim

[umbral seal]

I run 1 of each at this point. Also, that's not really true. It's actually much harder to make all 10 hits of sandy go face.

And yeah, evo sword has a much harder time clearing without grimnir active

I still only run 2 copies, though

3 is too bricky

[mystic tartan]

yeah he run 2 copies too

Sandal is really broken in Dirt Evo

its insane

especially with raio activated

holy

[umbral seal]

Tbh, getting Sandy to hit face is most reliable in evo dragon

But evo dragon isn't that good

[mystic tartan]

yeah im a no believer of evo dragon

[umbral seal]

It works sometimes but it's too slow, even against other control decks.

If you could reliably get the wise guardian dragons out before most crafts unlock their aoe, it'd be much better

[mystic tartan]

true i did that once and they cant clear

[umbral seal]

IMO, best to worst: storm ramp, fennie dragon, cocytus dragon, evo dragon.

I've played all 4 a decent amount.

All least the middle two can actually otk late game decks.

Storm Ramp is the only one that can actually race loot sword.

At this point, I think dragon's overflow should unlock super evos early but that might be too broken in the future.

[mystic tartan]

storm is the most fun for me so im just going to play that

[red plover]

I wish I could play take 2 till the next set but Im already running out of rubies

[gritty anvil]

wtf is that dumb buff to rose queen lmao

that doesnt even matter she can attack 2 times at all

[mystic tartan]

it is strong

[gritty anvil]

?

how

[mystic tartan]

nah i mean the buff

not the 2 attack

[gritty anvil]

she only got 2 attacks nothing else no ?

[mystic tartan]

bruh

read again

transform all 2pp or lower cards

[gritty anvil]

oh

well that still doesnt really help

[mystic tartan]

[umbral seal]

Hops can't read. The buff is huge but RQ's problem isn't the card itself

It's that forest in general struggles to survive to that point

Which is why they play roach, which can otk faster

[gritty anvil]

if she was 1 mana cheaper

[mystic tartan]

yeah even Dayan back to Roach with RQ

[mystic tartan]

that would be broken

ngl especially if u coin

[umbral seal]

Never going to happen because RQ's OTK bypasses ward completely. If they have the full 21-24 damage, the only thing that's saving you is filene or zooey

[gritty anvil]

they should remove that double atk and make her 8 cost and that new brambles text

[umbral seal]

Temple of Repose doesn't save if they have 24

That's why RQ will never be 8 pp

[gritty anvil]

how is forest in mta now ?

meta

bad ?

[umbral seal]

It's not meta. Roach is still the best Forest deck.

More people are experimenting with RQ but it's tier 3 at best

[mystic tartan]

i mean Roach is still decent

but no one plays Forest

now

[gritty anvil]

roach is still inconsistent no ?

[umbral seal]

Roach is solidly tier 2, primarily because of its tournament performance

[umbral seal]

Roach has never been inconsistent

Roach just gets mowed down by aggro and ward haven

It beats almost every other deck.

[gritty anvil]

well i dont really know what new cards roach forest got

[umbral seal]

In this set, nothing.

A deck doesn't need to constantly be updated to maintain its power level

[mystic tartan]

forest new lego is just bad cus ur forced to use sevo

[umbral seal]

No, that legendary is good. It's that evo forest overall is not that good. Even without super evo, she's a solid 5 pp removal unit

[mystic tartan]

oh shes 5pp

never knew

[umbral seal]

With super evo, she provides free evos over 4 turns

[mystic tartan]

well its ok then

[umbral seal]

Which will super charge sandalphon and cupitan

Evo Forest is a bit better now but is also just tier 3 imo

[mystic tartan]

i do lose once against evo forest combo

titania crest into that storm fairy crest into that legendary

[umbral seal]

Cupitan's free evo not being gated behind ssba helps the consistency of the deck a lot

[mystic tartan]

but only once i match against that

cus forest almost extinct

[umbral seal]

Unfortunately, there still isn't a forest deck that appeals to me. Maybe next set if they bring back neutral forest.

[umbral seal]

@mystic tartan I missed the last guild chest event due to burnout. How rewarding was it?

[mystic tartan]

its very rewarding

this was mine u can even get 2 lego i think

the max is 2 pack 2 lego 1k rupies

[umbral seal]

[umbral seal]

Honestly, I don't even care about legendaries. I just want globes.

Need to finish animating my dragon deck.

[mystic tartan]

okayeg

[mystic tartan]

bruh i just clutch yurius an evo abyss

[mystic tartan]

alright Grim is just a MUST in evo sword

[umbral seal]

Aight, got a few new fresh recruits. Hopefully s++ this time.

[mystic tartan]

im doing my part

[umbral seal]

I know. In an ideal world, everyone would, at least, be gm0. 4k pts per member would do a lot of the heavy lifting.

[mystic tartan]

man i really hate sword

when i play dragon

[umbral seal]

Even if dragon was t1, that will always be a hard match up. Because it always was in sv1.

Unless you're playing a non ramp dragon deck.

Such as face dragon, evo dragon, discard dragon (sv1), buff dragon (sv1)

[mystic tartan]

reached legend with evo sword

not bad

[fading echo]

Damn if i have over 4k grp then it's super easy to get

Considering the game doesn't let me play and just kicks me out of every match

[umbral seal]

4k is extremely easy once you're master rank. The problem is some people don't even do that or others started late so they're not master yet.

Technically, we need 7k per member for S++ but our top 3 covers most of that difference.

[mystic tartan]

Got to gm1

Was extremely close against evo sword

Zooey clutch

[umbral seal]

I've swapped gears to evo abyss after finally cooking a list that works

[red plover]

I have nothing to grind for

I dont care about getting any higher gm ranks and trying to get beyond as haven just sounds like torture. Nearly out of rubies for take 2 as well so theres nothing else

[umbral seal]

You can play other things besides Haven. Unless you don't have the vials for it.

Personally, I just play the game because I enjoy it. Feels like people forget that's the purpose of games to begin with.

No need to force yourself to play if you don't find it fun, or the meta to be fun.

[red plover]

well yea, thats why I dont grind and just play the mode I enjoy instead which is take 2

if it didnt cost anything it would be the only mode Id play

[umbral seal]

In SV1, they used to give take 2 tickets as part of the daily log in.

One ticket every 15 days

[red plover]

and now you only get them every set

[umbral seal]

Now, they're too stingy to do even this much

[fading echo]

Do they even give them for free every set

I only remember playing take 2 when it came out and had a free entry

[red plover]

no, its only if you ranked well I think

[umbral seal]

I didn't get one for this set. I did get one last set.

I don't think anyone got a free ticket this set but I could be wrong.

[umbral seal]

@plain gull Do you still play this game?

[umbral seal]

Only time fellas come to the lounge

[cursive crypt]

Is there an event?

[umbral seal]

Guild chest.

[mystic tartan]

xdd

[plain gull]

Not really, just log to do the daily pull

[fading echo]

Damn i got the lucky chest and a ticket on the same pack but the lucky chest was another elf lady i already got two tickets of her before so I'll keep rolling until the selector

But the ticket was filene so i got the wallpaper

[umbral seal]

I figured. Only asking because I noticed your grp was 0 but you're technically active. Just taking a break or kinda done with the game?

[plain gull]

Kinda done i guess

[umbral seal]

Noted. Going to boot you to make room for active contributors but feel free to hit me up if you wish to return.

Well, I would but I apparently cannot while the chest event is on-going.

[plain gull]

ok

[fading echo]

does anyone wanna play at the guild for chest levels

[mystic tartan]

we already lvl4 it

kek

[umbral seal]

Yeah but people still need 10 individual pts

Playing each other gives more

[mystic tartan]

[fading echo]

dragon guy almost beat me but he wasted his turn 3 ramping so he was in range for oguri cap

[umbral seal]

Easy.

So many fucking dragons in this format, though.

[mystic tartan]

my best cr for dragon

this deck is pag if there is no sword

[umbral seal]

Dragon really just needs Sibyl

That's when it became t1 in sv1

[mystic tartan]

this is one of the reason

i hate dragon

[mystic tartan]

beyondo

lmao that 8 ws because i didnt meet sword

[umbral seal]

[mystic tartan]

very lucky didnt meet sword

i farmed dirt rune

[red plover]

man, getting 7 wins as haven in take 2 feels impossible ever since they removed basic cards

[umbral seal]

Evo abyss good.

[brisk adder]

ah yes another event

https://shadowverse-wb.com/en/news/detail/?id=01KBCG28FKXA2VSE0JRF4X33YM

this event is fucking retarded

[umbral seal]

Sleeves are just a worse reward than alt arts but eh.

As long as there are still freebies like legendary card packs (it was in the last one), I'm content.

[brisk adder]

ok i guess

[mystic tartan]

storm dragon is ass against haven

hate it

[umbral seal]

Ward Haven: very winnable. Crest Haven: nearly impossible.

[brisk adder]

Bro

Why I'm getting portal on my haven games

Pisses me off

[mystic tartan]

Its all crest

I'm meeting kek

[mystic tartan]

[mystic tartan]

can i not meet a single mode abyss for fuck sake

[umbral seal]

If you're facing that many, I would just try to counter-queue, if I were you

Mode is almost as popular as loot and puppets

[mystic tartan]

yeah im changing to loot

i just want to climb

[umbral seal]

Not sure if I'd say loot counters mode. If they're running the bat/fediel package, they can actually outheal your damage.

I personally prefer evo abyss & puppets since neither of those decks really care about enemy healing.

Destruction portal as well but I hate playinig that.

[mystic tartan]

if i cant kill i just surrend

[umbral seal]

Hostage Forest player

[umbral seal]

Man, playing loot is literally cheating. Playing it again after months.

Absolutely needs nerfs.

[mystic tartan]

[brisk adder]

Next set when?

[umbral seal]

End of december.

Which reminds me: if anyone here has not enjoyed a singe meta yet, there probably won't be a meta you'll ever enjoy in a ccg.

Heirs of the Omen was terrible, in retrospect.

Pretty sure a lot of people quit with that one.

[mystic tartan]

i like this set

all i can remember from Heirs of the Omen is Crest Haven + 10

[mystic tartan]

man why it has to be this guy

[umbral seal]

Lu Woh is a decent tech card. Shuts down Orchis in the mirror.

[mystic tartan]

maybe ill just pick the background

it looks nice

[umbral seal]

Final push, fellas.

[umbral seal]

2 down, 5 to go.

[mystic tartan]

man bricked 3 times in arow

bruh 5 times now

alright i got a Dragon as my last opponent

[cursive crypt]

I tried doing this but gave up some crafts are so ass to play when u get the bad/no synergy cards

Gl tho

[umbral seal]

It'll be easier/harder for some crafts depending on the set. For example, Rune in take two is low key insane because of Mireille & Rosette, which is a silver card, they get 5 rerolls and building an earth rite deck is very easy

[cursive crypt]

Rune is ok tbh cause they have 5 rerolls. And their bad cards are still playable at least

Portal u either get insane deck or complete garbage

Cause u will have like, 3 egg cards, some puppets and artifacts

[brisk adder]

bro another karula

what the fuck

[umbral seal]

Mine was worse. Although, I recently looked at my collection and saw that I only have 1 himeka

Not like crest runs more than 1 anyway

[mystic tartan]

I want pulls

[umbral seal]

I want pulls just to get the Wilnas alt art

Then I want Galm's alt art

I'd go for Filene but I'm not a fan of feet.

[red plover]

pog, rare premium pack

[fading echo]

bricked i forgot part 2 of the chest event because i was busy

[mystic tartan]

-2 lego

[umbral seal]

Is there supposed to be an additional reward after round 3?

[mystic tartan]

Nah

We done after round 3

[fading echo]

haven vs mode

i'm so glad i made this mode deck every time i look at someone's avatar and they look like a haven player i pick my mode deck

[brisk adder]

i got tilted so hard

i lost to fucking roach as fucking ward

because i bricked so fucking hard dick

[mystic tartan]

LOLW

[umbral seal]

Technically, roach can get through any ward not buffed my aether (aura)

[red plover]

we still have plenty of time for s++ right